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00:00 < RangerZ1> and the weakened virues
00:00 < dfused> I don't be wanting no danged old cow stuff put in me
00:00 < RangerZ1> beef?
00:00 < RangerZ1> you don't like steak?
00:01 < dfused> shut up... your damned twisting facts dont have no plce here
00:01 < dfused> o.0
00:01 < RangerZ1> lol
00:01 < dfused> while we're at it... teh earth is only 6000 yrs old
00:01 < RangerZ1> 'sure'
00:01 < RangerZ1> we're not falling for that trolling tonihgt
00:01 < RangerZ1> tonight*
00:02 < dfused> and jeebus died for mah sins..and thar be some majical spirit floating around judging me for my thoughts and such
00:02 < RangerZ1> thats called a 'sky god'
00:03 < aestetix> dfused: do you think there are spirits at all?
00:03 < dfused> and wheat causes allergic  reactions.... ...wait..fuck..that ones true
00:04 < RangerZ1> so does milk, chocolate, and... lactose
00:04 < dfused> aestetix: spirits? no. energy? yes... but I beleive that we ovrthink it
00:04 < RangerZ1> 3 things I was allergic to growing up, lol
00:05 < aestetix> dfused: is there such a thing as a soul?
00:05 < RangerZ1> (you can be alergic to non-lactose milk, for those who are wondering why its there 2x) lol
00:05 < dfused> oh shit... thats gotta suck. I only had milk..until I got older. now I got wheat. so, I'm stuck drinking whiskey and rum
00:05 < RangerZ1> I'm over those at least
00:05 < dfused> aestetix: in my belief? no.
00:05 < RangerZ1> didn't have bovine milk or chocolate until I was 2+
00:05 < aestetix> Ok. Then where does consciousness come from? :)
00:07 < RangerZ1> an IQ over 50
00:07 < dfused> Its from the complex brain's capability to handle so many thoughts at the same time ...and that we have developed an ability be self aware
00:07 < aestetix> RangerZ1: do you live without consciousness?
00:07 < RangerZ1> (not really, but easy one liner)
00:07 < RangerZ1> as much as possible
00:07 < RangerZ1> I'd hate to have to realize I live in this world all the time...
00:07 < RangerZ1> hehe
00:08 < dfused> indeed!
00:08 < dfused> ginger tea wiht lemon juice is fantastic
00:08 < aestetix> dfused: if that's true, then clearly there must be a repeatable scientific way to identify where consciousnes is located?
00:09 < dfused> oh yes... then I say, we're just not there yet... then that arguement get torn into(twisted) just cause you cant prove it doesnt mean it aint true,....then that gets turned into the same arguement for god..... blah blah
00:09 < aestetix> In RangerZ1's case that area is replaced with a tiny pea.
00:10 < RangerZ1> no, I completely understand the desire for religious belonging
00:10 < RangerZ1> it makes life a whole lot easier
00:10 < aestetix> I wouldn't say it's an argument for god, but I would say it's an argument for having faith in something.
00:10 < RangerZ1> when you have a pre-built community anywhere in the world
00:11 < aestetix> (a very, very tiny pea)
00:11 < RangerZ1> as Irish Catholic, its my god given right to ignore anything the catholic church says
00:11 < dfused> HAH
00:11 < RangerZ1> I don't understand how thats so hard for others to understand
00:11 < RangerZ1> we ignore it about birth control all day long
00:12 < RangerZ1> 99% of american women and 95% of Irish (in Ireland) women use birth control
00:12 < RangerZ1> lol
00:12 < dfused> I thgouth they changed that POV
00:13 < RangerZ1> no
00:13 < dfused> only the one about aliens
00:13 < RangerZ1> the pope just said that its fine to 'plan your family'
00:13 < aestetix> RangerZ1: do you believe in the supremacy of the pope?
00:13 < RangerZ1> so only screw when the wife can't get preggy
00:13 < RangerZ1> aestetix: fuck no
00:13 < aestetix> then how do you call yourself catholic
00:13 < RangerZ1> most catholics don't actually believe that
00:14 < aestetix> I thought the pope was supposed to be the successor of Jesus?
00:14 < RangerZ1> plus I was baptized catholic, so no matter what, to them, I am one until I join another religion,lol
00:14 < aestetix> oh lol
00:14 < RangerZ1> not really, its just the head bishop of the church
00:15 < aestetix> dfused: if you take a hard science approach, I think it's important to remain skeptical of any claims period regarding god the soul, and consciousness.
00:15 < RangerZ1> in middle ages, they pushed that theory a lot, (for political reasons) but thats just history
00:15 < aestetix> Which is why I say "I don't know" and I'll change that once I see evidence.
00:16 < aestetix> dfused: although I recommend you try LSD :p
00:16 < dfused> I dont view the concsiousness as some spiritual ephemeral blah de blah... its sply nothing more that a word given to teh concept of our compex brains ability to develop self realization and very very complex ideas and plans etc etc.
00:17 < aestetix> And once you can point to the process and place in the brain where that emerges, I'll side with you 100% ;)
00:18 < dfused> you point to me one sinlge "point" where the computer is able to do algebra formulas.
00:18 < RangerZ1> aestetix: a lot of ideas about catholics are 1) not really true and spread by baptists 2) ancient 3) things most cathoics don't actually believe, lol
00:18 < RangerZ1> #3 even if it 'is' church dogma
00:18 < RangerZ1> lol
00:18 < aestetix> well also believe || know
00:19 < dfused> catholicism is a cult
00:19 < dfused> =0
00:19 < RangerZ1> I'm -not- a supporter of the church, but I like to be accurate in my hate for the church(es), lol
00:19 < aestetix> dfused: easy: source code for mathematica
00:19 < dfused> the source code does not peform the math.
00:20 < dfused> it is a collection of all the parts ...cpu, memory, circuits..etc etc...PLUS the code... all working together.
00:21 < aestetix> can a computer laugh?
00:21 < dfused> yes
00:21 < dfused> with a speaker component (voice box)
00:21 < aestetix> so with a computer program, every choice, option, decision, etc is pretermined by a (complex) set of rules
00:22 < aestetix> Are you suggesting the same for the brain?
00:22 < RangerZ1> aestetix: not true
00:22 < dfused> our early simplistic brains were. but they have evolved .... soon, the computers that we aer developing and the code to allow for them to be AI(self aware, etc) will also have dynamic decisions abiliyt
00:22 < aestetix> RangerZ1: oh?
00:23 < RangerZ1> computers are predetermined by a very few simple binary rules
00:23 < aestetix> RangerZ1: ok fair enough
00:23 < aestetix> every  complex set of instructions can be broken down into smaller parts
00:23 < aestetix> I think that's euclid
00:23 < RangerZ1> wherease the brain works in polynomial or exponential instructions from a single stimuli
00:23 < aestetix> dfused: do we have any of these physical simplistic brains?
00:24 < dfused> yes, but we are developing technology to go beyond simple yes/no , on/off ...but multile variations of inbetween
00:24 < RangerZ1> and each instruction is highly multi-threaded
00:24 < RangerZ1> etc
00:24 < aestetix> oh god you're not talking about quantum computers are you?
00:24 < dfused> oh who? ... lol
00:25 < aestetix> the whole qubit nonsense
00:25 < aestetix> dfused: another question: do computers have desires?
00:26 < dfused> does a tree?
00:26 < RangerZ1> no
00:26 < RangerZ1> i'm talkng about neurons
00:26 < aestetix> uh do trees have consciousness?
00:27 < aestetix> I mean I have never talked to a tree about its desires but maybe lol
00:27 < dfused> recent research is showing that plant life responds to stimuli such as noise, and even more strangely...semotions of ppl around it. ...
00:27 < dfused> its odd... and I dont know much about it... but the concept is certainlys trange...and yet well supported enough to continue further funded research
00:29 < aestetix> dfused: ok. Do you think if a man commits a crime, he should be held accountable for his actions?
00:30 < dfused> well... interesting turn. (oatmeal gives me gas) .... but only if the man can be found mentally competent. ... if he has the mental ability of a 3 yr old... then ow can you prosecute
00:31 < aestetix> Ok. So if a computer with malware on it hacks into another computer, do you blame the CPU?
00:32 < dfused> not yet. ..at this stage in their development. computers are not developed enough to have malicious intent
00:32 < aestetix> lol
00:32 < aestetix> So a computer is equivalent to a retard?
00:33 < aestetix> Also I'm sure Corydon can help you deflate the gas
00:34 < dfused> mm....no. "retard" as you put it, refers to the retardation of the brain which shoudl technically be able to do more. .... computers in 'this' instance, would be more like punishing an ameoba cause it passed some virus ont someone who messed with it
00:35 < aestetix> dfused: so in another 50 years, we'll have computers that like butt play?
00:35 < dfused> not sure if insomnia issues are impeeding or heping my abilit to articulate
00:36 < dfused> with our tendency towards that sort of thing.... yes
00:36 < aestetix> Would you buy a computer that could do that?
00:36 < dfused> they will develop initially according to our desires.
00:37 < dfused> ID be more concerned with having a bot that could scrub that one spot in the middle of my damn back I cant reach
00:37 < aestetix> In 50 years would we have a computer that could find RangerZ1 attractive?
00:37 < RangerZ1> nah
00:37 < dfused> well...lets not let this convo get out of hand
00:38 < RangerZ1> (easiest way to end a convo like that is to shoot it down yourself)
00:38 < dfused> I mean... evvolution can only ove so fast...
00:39 < aestetix> RangerZ1: maybe 100 years then
00:39 < RangerZ1> ehh
00:39 < dfused> so...over xmas I change jobs and get a hell of a pay increase with it. .... now I find myself lacking in G.A.F. to compelte my degree. yet I've only got 3 classes and a paper to write.
00:40 < aestetix> Give A Fuck?
00:40 < dfused> si
00:40 < aestetix> so you have one semester left?
00:40 < dfused> yeah
00:40 < aestetix> suck it up
00:40 < dfused> i just cant get motivated.
00:40 < aestetix> sounds like you need a butt-play capable computer
00:41 < dfused> lmao
00:41 < dfused> you just want the video feed from it
00:42 < dfused> sweet zombie jeesus....wtf am I doing up at almost 1am
00:43 < dfused> ...ok ok .... enough philosophic pontifications for tnoghit... I'm gonna go lay on the couch, watch xfiles on roku.... and pray I get some sleep tonight (har-har)
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00:51 < RangerZ1> http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2015/01/29/vanderbilt-students-talk-sex-campus-event/22561215/
00:51 < PigBot`> Title: Vanderbilt to have sex workshop week after verdict (at www.tennessean.com)
00:52 < RangerZ1> totally misleading title...
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01:00 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: ideas http://imgur.com/a/CTxyb
01:00 < RangerZ1> lol
01:00 < PigBot`> Title: Removable Nexus 7 Headunit Install, 2013 Subaru WRX - Imgur (at imgur.com)
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01:59 < aestetix> penis
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14:30 <@Dagmar> Helpful Android docs...
14:33 <@Dagmar> I was wondering if onEnabled could be called for mulitple widgets at once...
14:33 <@Dagmar> "Called in response to the ACTION_APPWIDGET_ENABLED broadcast when the a AppWidget for this provider is instantiated."
14:33 <@Dagmar> "the a AppWidget"
14:33 <@Dagmar> !@#!@@#!#@
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17:09 <@Evilpig> god damn something is chewing up IO today.  getting 83% wait...
17:09 < dfused> oh sry bout that
17:10 <@Evilpig> my porn is clearly labeled man.  you don't have to dig so hard
17:10 < dfused> haha
17:15 <@Evilpig> now that I have iotop and atop installed whatever was going apeshit stopped. 
17:15  * Evilpig stares at dfused 
17:16  * dfused whistles innocently
17:16 < dfused> <.<
17:16 < dfused> I know ...nothing
17:20 < dfused> and the internal debate begins.... xfiles reruns on netflix.... or superbowl.... hrmmmm
17:24 <@Evilpig> pffftt netflix
17:28 < RangerZ1> just wait for the xfiles remake thats starting next winter with Chris Pratt
17:29 < dfused> hah...pratt
17:29 < dfused> that ought to be intersting
17:30 < RangerZ1> well he's in jurassic park, indiana jones
17:30 < dfused> imdb says nothing about it
17:30 < dfused> but I do see a possible indiana 5
17:30 < RangerZ1> i'm just waiting for what next he'll be in
17:31 < RangerZ1> i was being sarcastic bout xfiles
17:31 < RangerZ1> but who know
17:31 < RangerZ1> knows*
17:35 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: ping
17:35 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: http://ma.ttias.be/whats-new-systemd-2015-edition/
17:35 <@Bahhumbug> It will help if you're drunk or stoned before reading that
17:43 < _NSAKEY> What happens to systemd if he gets hit by a bus tomorrow?
17:46 <@Evilpig> it'll die and the internet will rejoice
17:46 < dfused> Dagmar will take over it.... he LOVES coding
17:47 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Now how do we arrange for a bus to "accidentally" cream him?
17:48 <@Evilpig> I don't think it has to be accidental.  whoever makes it happen will be the hero of the interwebs
17:49 <@Evilpig> reading that over quickly. of course you have to add a firewall to your init daemon after you network enabled it.  jesus fuckin' christ.  how is systemd not a singular OS at this point?
17:50 < _NSAKEY> Every time there's some major systemd news, it makes me glad that 1. I won't have to touch my boxes for a while. 2. When the time comes start upgrading software, FreeBSD is probably going to still be a viable alternative.
17:50 < _NSAKEY> I still think that anything like the debian fork just needs to drop GNOME from the packages and never support it.
17:51 < _NSAKEY> Just purge anything related to this cabal and make a statement.
17:52 <@Bahhumbug> Lennart is not the primary developer these days.  But he's still pushing most of this agenda, still.  His sycophantic cohorts (ie. the 'cabal' [his term, not mine]) implement his insanity.
17:52 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: Does that mean it will be more or less functional than PulseAudio?
17:52 < _NSAKEY> It's 2015 and I still have to apt-get purge pulseaudio just to have audio work 100%. There's no excuse for that.
17:53 < _NSAKEY> I even included that into my post-install script to set up everything the way I like it.
17:53 < _NSAKEY> # Now to start installing stuff. The next line starts this process off on the right foot.
17:53 < _NSAKEY> yes | apt-get purge pulseaudio
17:53 <@Bahhumbug> PA is a perfect example of Puttering.  He lost interest when something more Oh! Shiny! came along.
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17:54 < _NSAKEY> I still, to this day, do not understand the point of PulseAudio.
17:54 < _NSAKEY> It sounded like a solution in search of a problem. ALSA just works.
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> Everything he does is a solution in search of a problem.
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> E
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> v
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> e
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> r
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> y
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> t
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> h
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> i
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> n
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> k
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh, g
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> whatever
17:56 < dfused> yeah...its less emphatic when you mispell ...heheh
17:56 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, I don't care.
17:56 <@Bahhumbug> :)
17:56 < dfused> me either
17:56 <@Bahhumbug> My feelings on systemd are well and publicly known.
17:57 < _NSAKEY> When he published that whining screed about the linux community being mean, I could only think, "They're clearly not mean enough, because you haven't retired to some fishing village on the Arctic Circle."
17:57 <@Bahhumbug> His rant about death threats is quite likely based on comments I've stated in public involving him and a deadly fall down a flight of stairs or tripping over the edge of a roof or mistakenly walking into an elevator shaft in Red Hat venues.
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18:08 < RangerZ1> hell at this point, I'm ready to just use fucking Unity over gnome
18:09 < RangerZ1> I -get- where systemD came from... it is an attempt to Android-ify Linux and add "managers"
18:09 < RangerZ1> whether he wants to admit it in public or not...
18:09 <@Bahhumbug> No it isn't.
18:10 <@Bahhumbug> This is absolutely nothing more than him remaking _everything_ in his own image.
18:10 < RangerZ1> I mean... it _really_ is though... His stated purpose is to add a 'service manager'
18:10 <@Bahhumbug> He met that goal 4 years ago.
18:10 <@Bahhumbug> And has been clusterfucking everything else since then.
18:12 < RangerZ1> wtf... why is he trying to do the 'docker' development OVER again?
18:12 < RangerZ1> and iptables...
18:13 <@Bahhumbug> journald-remoting: the binary logger now has remote support (aka: remoting) via HTTP (instead of the syslog protocol, which isn't standardized (ie: no timezones, single-line logs only, ...)). Journald has a pull and push model. Pull = HTTP GET request for a JSON stream. Push model pushes via the HTTP POST request to a remote journald instance. Allows for "simple" implementations of programs (PHP,
18:13 <@Bahhumbug> , Ruby, ...) to send data to a remote journald endpoint, since it's just HTTP POST. Could replace syslogging.
18:13 <@Bahhumbug> Because $self->image
18:15 < RangerZ1> wow... this is a classic case of where 'tight-coupling' is bad
18:15 < RangerZ1> I'm FULLY in support of it having logging
18:15 < RangerZ1> but it should have an interface... where you can swap actual mechanisms in and out
18:15 < RangerZ1> either HTTP or syslog, etc
18:16 <@Bahhumbug> There is no reason for it.
18:16 <@Bahhumbug> None.
18:16 <@Bahhumbug> Not a one.
18:17 < RangerZ1> systemd will add support for restarting services without losing state. Every daemon will store a minimal system state on disk, so if it's restarted it can resume the original state.
18:17 < RangerZ1> w....t....f......
18:17 <@Bahhumbug> Bullshit.  And a security vector.
18:17 <@Bahhumbug> ANd he's proven he's not a secure coder.
18:17 < RangerZ1> if it will go back into the -same- state it was in... why the FUCK did you restart it in the first place
18:18 <@Bahhumbug> So this is a non-starter.
18:18 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: Has anyone accused him of being an NSA plant?
18:18 <@Bahhumbug> I've accused him of raping baby goats.
18:18 <@Bahhumbug> Does that count?
18:19 < _NSAKEY> That's on the same level of evil, but different.
18:19 < RangerZ1> nah, NSA plant at least has some -fake- nationalism involved
18:20 < RangerZ1> so either more or less evil
18:20 < RangerZ1> lol
18:20 < RangerZ1> (depending on your POV)
18:21 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: NSA plants, as in, the kind of evil bastards who subvert NIST standards.
18:21 < RangerZ1> thats different though
18:21 < RangerZ1> nvm
18:21 < RangerZ1> read that wrong, thought you said 'support'
18:21 < RangerZ1> not subvert
18:21 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, in that a crypto standard isn't being ruined.
18:22 < _NSAKEY> In this case, it's software that will go into every non-trivial linux distro in the future.
18:22 < RangerZ1> i 'support' NIST standards, not 'subvert' them
18:22 < _NSAKEY> The same sort of subversion could be going on.
18:22 < RangerZ1> don't worry, this will just kill linux
18:22  * RangerZ1 moves to our new BSD rulers
18:22 < _NSAKEY> Both classes of subversion should be dealt with by taking the people involved out back and executing them with sledgehammers.
18:22 < RangerZ1> lol
18:24 <@Bahhumbug> BSD is not a viable alternative to linux.
18:24 <@Bahhumbug> BSD is still a cute little toy sitting in the corner waiting to be played with and being shunned by people.
18:28 < RangerZ1> I don't think its 'that' far "behind" linux
18:28 < RangerZ1> I think it just has a different design philosophy... which perhaps leads to less adoption of systemD
18:28 < RangerZ1> lol
18:28 < RangerZ1> and we can't really blame them for 'that', lol
18:31 <@Bahhumbug> It has no market share.  It's not even a blip on radars.
18:34  * RangerZ1 shrugs
18:35 < RangerZ1> I really don't consider that 'that' important for development , etc
18:37 < RangerZ1> plus for servers I don't think the ratio is nearly what you claim it is, my understanding was it was ~1/3 ~1/3 ~1/3 for linux/unix/windows servers out there
18:38 <@Bahhumbug> I don't see that in the real world at all.
18:49 <@Evilpig> finally!  found it
18:49 <@Evilpig> sickbeard is teh culprit
18:50 < dfused> ahhh
18:50 < dfused> good that is where it led you... >.>
18:58 < dfused> someone really needs to build a vce app now that avanset has gone batshit crazy
19:12 <@Evilpig> who
19:12 <@Evilpig> who's ready for one of those things you can't describe?
19:13 <@Evilpig> http://porndirector.tumblr.com/post/88369081596/is-that-squidward
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19:37 < RangerZ1> tumblr + twitter is probably the root of all -current- evils in society
19:37 < RangerZ1> lol
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19:49 <@oddball> So... Evilpig should be ashamed of himself?
19:51 < RangerZ1> oddball: that is just a blanket truthful statement
19:51 < RangerZ1> but in what area this time?
19:51 <@oddball> working for Tumblr.
19:51 < dfused> yes...inquiring minds want to know
19:52 < dfused> oh....well..I thought maybe itd be something juicy...
19:53 < RangerZ1> there is no shame in working for tumblr, there is also no shame in spending your time at work on tumblr... instead of working
19:53 < RangerZ1> there IS shame in looking at tumblr from home
19:54 <@oddball> heh
20:43 < RangerZ1> oddball: btw, nice dodging of blizzards
20:43 < RangerZ1> back down here to avoid midwest blizz now
20:43 < RangerZ1> lol
20:43 <@oddball> I'm like a ninja like that. :p
20:44 < RangerZ1> you wouldn't want to accidently have a nice winter day where you can just relax in the house and snuggle with the mrs while it snows outside
20:44 <@oddball> Although, I was hoping for snow in Chattanooga for Chattacon this weekend.
20:45 < RangerZ1> ahh
20:45 <@oddball> Oh, didn't have the snow falling, but snow was on the ground while we were in Mi.
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20:45 <@oddball> And the view in the back of my dad's house was awesome.
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20:47 < RangerZ1> nice
20:48 <@oddball> http://tinyurl.com/k5nkdar
20:50 <@Dagmar> Don't jinx it
20:50 <@Dagmar> We now have four hours of "flurries" to survive in the morning
20:50 <@oddball> pfft
20:51 <@Evilpig> we still have nothing!!!!!
20:51 <@Evilpig> gimme some snow motherfucker!
20:51 < _NSAKEY> Famous last words.
20:52 <@oddball> So they shut down NYC for nothing?
20:52 < RangerZ1> not really, they shut down the _subway_ for nothing
20:52 < RangerZ1> the storm hit ~15miles to the east of NYC proper
20:52 <@Dagmar> No, they shut down NYC to see if anyone would challenge them doing it later for political reasons
20:53 <@Dagmar> I have now officially added one portal to Ingress
20:54 <@Evilpig> they shutdown the subway because the current mayer is a fucking moron that actually told his constituants to NOT WALK 
20:54 <@Evilpig> he was afraid they'd fall down...
20:54 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: umm no
20:54 <@Evilpig> umm yes
20:54 < RangerZ1> the NY Gov. shut down the subway
20:54 <@Evilpig> I heard the clip myself
20:54 < RangerZ1> the subway is a -state- agency
20:54 <@Evilpig> sorry gov, not mayer
20:54 <@Dagmar> Next thing they'll curfew the city after sundown because someone might trip and hurt themselves in the dark.
20:57 <@oddball> RangerZ1: He also declared a city-wide curfew.
20:58 < RangerZ1> yeah, i know that much, but I was just saying it was the gov. who shut down the subway
20:58 < RangerZ1> and i thought the curfew was only for 'driving'
20:58 < RangerZ1> not 'walking'
20:58 <@oddball> nope
20:58 <@Evilpig> nobody on the streets
20:58 <@Evilpig> they had officers at all the bridges turning people away
20:59  * RangerZ1 shrugs
20:59 < RangerZ1> because lets be honest, if they didn't and things went sideways, it would have been worse for them
20:59 < RangerZ1> lol
20:59 <@oddball> Once again proving that New Yorkers talk big, but are, in fact, pussies.
21:06 < aestetix> oddball: you mean proving that the mayor of New York is a pussy
21:07 <@oddball> aestetix: I like making fun of New Yorkers.  When they start their bluster, I tend to respond "that's nice, I'm from Detroit."
21:07 < RangerZ1> hell... even saying... youngstown is enough to shut them up
21:08 < aestetix> haha
21:09 < aestetix> why youngston
21:09 < aestetix> I understand detroit
21:09 <@oddball> heh... After Naienko and I visited NYC, someone asked if anyone gave us grief/tried to intimidate us/etc.  My response "no, everyone pretty much got out of my way.  One guy even told me that I didn't have to beat him up for some reason."
21:09 <@oddball> I didn't even say a word to that guy.
21:36 < aestetix> honestly New York really isn't all that anymore
21:36 < aestetix> manhattan is expensive and lame, and things shut down early now
21:39 <@oddball> I noticed that.
21:40 < aestetix> Then again I tend to think all major US cities have become soft and/or conservative
21:41 <@oddball> Well, you currently live in another plain of existence, so...
21:41 < aestetix> lol
21:47 < aestetix> so did deBlasio actually have evidence there wwas going to be a storm?
21:47 < aestetix> Like why the hell did he do all that stuff
21:47 <@oddball> The weatherman told him "there's a storm a'coming."
21:48 < aestetix> He's really not off to a good start.
21:49 <@oddball> I don't know, he's pissed off the NYPD by telling them to behave.
21:49 <@oddball> And... well... he hasn't bragged about orchestrating several felonies, so he's doing better than the previous guy.
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22:20 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vs8ZV4D0j4 and a shock of joy hit ... Sci-Fi-Fans world-wide as they cheered
22:20 < PigBot`> Title: George Lucas Isnt Interested in Sci-Fi Anymore - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:34 < _NSAKEY> Probably because Disney didn't use his scripts.
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22:37 < RangerZ1> there is a documentary about him making the first new movie
22:37 < RangerZ1> and him and like a dozen people watch the movie for the first time
22:38 < RangerZ1> and you can tell he realizes how bad it is
22:38 < RangerZ1> but he's stuck b/c of the money already invested
22:38 < RangerZ1> so funny
22:38 < RangerZ1> lol
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