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00:55 < _NSAKEY> If anyone here ever decides to replace their GUI sftp client with a shell script, lftp is your best friend in the world.
00:56 < _NSAKEY> It supports sftp and parallel downloading.
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01:21 < aestetix> penis
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02:09 < aestetix> someone is singing outside my window
02:09 < aestetix> and playing what sounds like polka music
02:47 <@Dagmar> Well, at least you know it's not a mime.
02:47 <@Dagmar> ...doing the singing anyway.
02:47 <@Dagmar> They _could_ be holding the stereo.
03:04 < aestetix> hahah
03:04 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN2_PSs2Pjc
03:04 < PigBot`> Title: Crazy hockey Dad - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:11 <@Dagmar> "Developing an Android home screen app widget is not for the faint of heart.   The official Android widget documentation is sketchy and sometimes just plain wrong."
03:11 <@Dagmar> LOOOOL
03:11 <@Dagmar> http://www.epstudiossoftware.com/?p=1417
03:11 < PigBot`> Title: Configurable Android App Widget Tutorial | EP Studios (at www.epstudiossoftware.com)
03:11 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking... YES.
03:13 <@Dagmar> Class protecions, arrays, methods in java, their weird and frankly pererted ideas about overloading... not that hard
03:13 <@Dagmar> Wading through the MINEFIELD OF BOGONS that is what passes for "documentation", on the other hand...
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03:25 <@Dagmar> TDLS seems interesting
03:26 <@Dagmar> I wonder how often it's enabled.
03:51 <@Dagmar> aestetix: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/27/facebook_lizardsquad_takedown_claims/
03:51 < PigBot`> Title: Facebook: Oi, Lizard Squad – we can take down our own site, ta • The Register (at www.theregister.co.uk)
03:51 <@Dagmar> heheheh
03:52 <@Dagmar> They take a *great* potshot at MySpace there
03:58 <@Dagmar> They verified that Facebook was down, talked to Tinder, but for MySpace... "This guy we know said it was up."
03:58 <@Dagmar> Tranlation: We wouldn't be caught dead on MySpace
04:17 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I don't know about you, but I'm tired of seeing those kids in the news.
04:18 < _NSAKEY> $1 says that not a single one of them is over 18.
04:31 <@Dagmar> I don't think they're worth addressing as individuals.
04:41 < aestetix> god I love writing satire
04:54 < RangerZ> http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2015/01/27/381888697/to-protect-his-son-a-father-asks-school-to-bar-unvaccinated-children?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150127
04:54 < PigBot`> Title: To Protect His Son, A Father Asks School To Bar Unvaccinated Children : Shots - Health News : NPR (at www.npr.org)
04:54 < RangerZ> well fuck the long URL, but ...
04:54 < RangerZ> GOOD
04:54 < RangerZ> kid has medical reasons for not being able to be vacinated (lukemia)
04:55 < RangerZ> AFIAK I needed _proof_ of my MMR vacine to even enter the 9th grade, and my 3rd shot to graduate...
04:56 < RangerZ> it was to the point that YSU accepted the fact that I had my MMR shot b/c _I graduated from a high school in Ohio_
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04:59 < RangerZ> http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/27/say-goodbye-to-cadbury-hershey-gets-british-chocolate-imports-banned-in-america/
04:59 < PigBot`> Title: Addicting Info Say Goodbye To Cadbury: Hershey Gets British Chocolate Imports Banned In America (at www.addictinginfo.org)
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05:03 < aestetix> I wonder if bad kids get a visit from the poo fairy
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05:15 < RangerZ> aestetix: seek medical attention
05:16 < RangerZ> As a concerned member of this community, we worry about you
05:18 < aestetix> why?
05:25 < RangerZ> your brain is broken
05:25 < RangerZ> poo fairy... => you would have been hospitalized when we had insane assylums
05:28 <@Bahhumbug> This is nothing that getting his ass beat a few more times as a could wouldn't have taken care of.
05:29 <@Bahhumbug> err, s/could/kid
05:29 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: I've read interesting studies on that
05:29 < RangerZ> and apparently thats not true, and being beaten as a kid actually changes the way your brain is formed while you growing up, and not for the better
05:32 < RangerZ> I still think he has some form of weird autistic spectrum disorder, but his is a weird variant where he isn't "incapable" of understanding other's emotions, but instead has no _desire_ to understand social norms or empathy
05:32 < RangerZ> lol
05:33 <@Bahhumbug> I think he's just an asshole.
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05:33 <@Bahhumbug> You can try to reason out why if you want.
05:45 < aestetix> Maybe I just need to do more cocaine
06:00 < RangerZ> I'd say more dealing with children
06:00 < RangerZ> (court supervised, b/c of your current legal standing)
06:04 < RangerZ> so I've been logging into facebook recently b/c I've been contacting some HS people I know, and I've noticed how 'bad' their 'feed' is now
06:04 < RangerZ> I'll see 3 posts from the same person about the job they are applying for (asking for prayers...)
06:04 < RangerZ> and they are in (decending order) #1, #3, #2 order
06:04 < RangerZ> b/c that is the order that recieved the most attention
06:05 < RangerZ> like WTF
06:05 < RangerZ> and not 'together' , I just happened to noticed b/c I read each 'feed item' (well skimmed title)
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06:15 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr returns the feed to chronological order.
06:15 < PigBot`> Title: Welcome to Facebook (at www.facebook.com)
06:15 < RangerZ> huh
06:15 < RangerZ> well thats fucked up
06:15 < RangerZ> thanks
06:15 < RangerZ> but still...
06:16 < RangerZ> well WTF... I just got an email stating the _book chapter_ that _was_ due sat... that NOW says FEB 28th on the website is due sat...
06:16 < RangerZ> ugh..
06:40 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvOcjzQ32Fw
06:40 < PigBot`> Title: Bertrand Russell - Discusses Mankinds Future & Philosophy - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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07:05 < RangerZ1> http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article8440641.html
07:05 < PigBot`> Title: After 2 rape convictions, 2 more Vanderbilt football players face charges | The Miami Herald The Miami Herald (at www.miamiherald.com)
07:05 < RangerZ1> Good...
07:06 < RangerZ1> But sadly the ONLY reason this is going forward is b/c the videos/pics exsited (and the friends turned them over the prosecutor ?)
07:06 < RangerZ1> I know the one from cali flew home and tried to delete the images/videos (failed at it too) from their phones and computers
07:11 < RangerZ1> aestetix: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2392373/twitter-rolls-out-video-clips-and-group-messaging-features
07:11 < PigBot`> Title: Twitter rolls out video clips and group messaging features- The Inquirer (at www.theinquirer.net)
07:11 < RangerZ1> twitter is trying to become google hangouts
07:13 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLklxYI8Zs0 this video is amazing
07:13 < PigBot`> Title: Genius Sex Ed Demo Shows Condom Use Without Breaking Mississippi Law - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
07:13 < RangerZ1> SFW
07:37 < aestetix> ugh sleep is hard
07:39 < aestetix> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cse-tracks-millions-of-downloads-daily-snowden-documents-1.2930120
07:39 < PigBot`> Title: CSE tracks millions of downloads daily: Snowden documents - Canada - CBC News (at www.cbc.ca)
08:34 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv4f3Kgg6GI
08:34 < PigBot`> Title: Comment moderation on YouTube - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
08:35 < RangerZ> I have a feeling I'd break youtube... by going over { (2^32)/2-1 } => semi accurate formula for knowing 'max 32bit signed int'
08:35 < RangerZ> **going over ~2.05 million blocked users...
08:35 < RangerZ> lol
08:50 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:52 < Evilpig_> are you finally back?
08:54 < RangerZ1> Dolemite: PM
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09:49 <@Dagmar> aestetix: http://www.themarysue.com/wikipedia-gamergate/  LOL
10:24 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: I got -actually- pissed at the articles I read on that
10:24 < RangerZ1> they were copy/pasting entire paragraphs from each other
10:24 < RangerZ1> without saying it was quotes
10:25 < RangerZ1> this is another one of them
10:26 < RangerZ1> but this one at least made less 'declarative statements' like "the pro-rapists"
10:26 < RangerZ1> and other BS
10:27 < RangerZ1> the thing is... I _agree_ with parts of sarkesian/etc say... but thats like 60%, the next 15% is 'thats debatable' and the remaining 25% are  "wtf is wrong with you, why are you allowed to breed" level of stupidity
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10:43 < Evilpig_> this children.... is what we call failing with style.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/16yv2gwvqudedb3/Screen%20Shot%202015-01-28%20at%2010.38.39%20AM.png?dl=0
10:46 <@Dagmar> Freaky
10:47 <@Dagmar> I have _two_ reviews now.. and one is from a total stranger.  Suh-weet!
10:47 < Evilpig_> you didn't give us a link to review
10:47 <@Mirage> ! <3 GHOST (glibc)
10:47 <@Dagmar> That's because I don't push for reviews
10:48 < Evilpig_> when I searched for dagmar I got this as the top result which makes me laugh.  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.elextech.happyfarm
10:48 < Evilpig_> Mirage: we patched that yesterday too. :-/
10:48 <@Mirage> Convincing our customers that "yes, because it's glibc the boxes need to be rebooted" is going to be a friggin nightmare
10:48 <@Mirage> Evilpig_: I patched my shit, but just had to do a write-up for our mgmt
10:49 <@Dagmar> "Alternatively, we can wait until mysteriously low-level system services start catching fire and corrupting results."
10:50 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: While I know _why_ that app shows up before mine, I really can't explain why it shows up _at all_
10:50 < Evilpig_> don't care, it makes me laugh.
10:51 <@Dagmar> At first I thought it was one of those things GOogle throws at you just because you searched for something else often
10:51 <@Dagmar> 'cuz I can type like, "egg" in the window and it'll offer up a WowHead link
10:52 < Evilpig_> quickly!  everyone go review this.  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=surrealestates.septiclockwidget
10:52 <@Dagmar> Yeah let's not stuff the ballots.  I know my widget is awesome because I've seen the inside of it.
10:53 <@Dagmar> I got a feature request last night which was actually accompanied by a _reasonable explanation_.
10:53 <@Dagmar> ...or rather a reasonable justification.
10:53 <@Dagmar> So today's research will be in how to actually make something have an application icon.  ;)
10:54 < Evilpig_> this is where aestetix should be chiming in with "penis"
10:56 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Another app that appears for no apparent reason https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.drinkstrike.drinkstrike
10:56 <@Dagmar> ...except it looks hilarious.
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11:15 <@Dagmar> Gonna meet with IDR tomorrow at 2pm.
11:15 <@Dagmar> THis should be interesting
11:15 <@Mirage> lol.. I was just asked if we should install gcc on all customer machines in order to compile the checked script for GHOST that uchicago posted.
11:16 <@Dagmar> *blinkblink*
11:16 <@Dagmar> Only if the end result actually invokes parts of the compiler
11:16 <@Dagmar> You should ask them "Do we *look* like a bunch of Gentoo savages?"
11:18 <@Mirage> I pulled a mild Dagmar and hopped up on my soapbox to rant to him about how absolutely, insanely stupid it would be to even have gcc on every machine in our customer environments.
11:19 <@Dagmar> Come now... That's not even a wrong enough question to warrant a rant in response
11:19 <@Mirage> Keeping in mind that this person (who's in a partner group) is also allegedly a Sr Linux admin.
11:20 <@Dagmar> Yes, well, knowing whether or not one should install GCC is something one would have to know _some_ devel skills for
11:21 <@Mirage> Any *nix admin worth a shit should be at the very least familiar with using gcc if not having had to use it to compile small binaries like this.   No excuses..
11:23 <@Mirage> That's about like finding a FreeBSD admin that doesn't know anything about CVSUP or how to recompile the kernel
11:24 <@Dagmar> lol I asked what the IDR agent's last name was, since I'm apparently having an interview with "Christy"
11:24 <@Dagmar> She told me "Gogo".
11:24 <@Dolemite> IDR?
11:24 <@Dagmar> I am in _no_ position to question that.
11:25 <@Dagmar> Yeah Internal Data Resources.
11:25 <@Dagmar> They're a headhunting firm
11:25 <@Dolemite> ah
11:25 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure whether i should explain my reaction to that when I see her or not.
11:27 <@Dagmar> I would like to state for the record that I did not audibly anything at her response
11:34 <@Dagmar> Mirage: At least with the GHOST thing your exposure (unless you're running something written in the 90's and never patched up to more modern API calls) is pretty minimal
11:34 <@Dagmar> The last two times I was tempted to use gethostbyname I wound up using getaddrinfo anyway
11:34 <@Mirage> Yeah, it should be...until you factor in and users (application admins) being dumb
11:35 <@Dagmar> That's true
11:35 <@Mirage> s/and/any
11:35 <@Dagmar> Thankfully most languages offer an abstraction for those calls in addition to perhaps a wrapper for the bare C functions
11:36 <@Mirage> This is the criticality note that I passed along to our management: "Since the level of risk is based on the access of the account running the vulnerable software, there is no clear-cut .OMG, OMG. factor for the vulnerability.   Most system services should be insulated by non-privileged accounts or privileged separation (dropping elevated privileges after startup)."
11:37 <@Dagmar> You may wish to mention tnat exploitation is also really, really hard
11:37 <@Dagmar> Best-case of having _eight_ bytes to work with... sheesh
11:37 <@Dagmar> This isn't likely to ever be wormable
11:38 <@Mirage> Yeah, I should have used "very, very hard with little return" instead of "non-trivial"
11:39 <@Dagmar> Kind of the difference between "a few" and "most" there
11:43 <@Dagmar> Geez.  Trust ArsTechnica to get all histrionic
11:43 <@Dagmar> It's sad how their quality has slipped
11:55 <@oddball> yep... going to get a RasberryPi from my dad as a late christmas present.  Now to just figure out a project for it...
11:55 <@Dagmar> "Boggling at how well it runs"
11:55 <@oddball> heh
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11:56 <@Mirage> Dagmar: hehehe...I just got a call from "Christy at IDR"
11:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm not exactly pleased with however it is they get contact info, but they're at least polite
11:56 <@Dagmar> ...and Christy seems to be more clued in to tech than just about any HR person I've met, so that's good
11:57 <@oddball> and... damned.  It's going to be too warm for Chattacon this weekend.  One of my favorite ones was when there was actual snow on the ground.
12:02 <@Mirage> I didn't talk to her for any longer than it took to mention that I was no longer in Nashville and gainfully employed
12:10 < RangerZ1> as much as some people hate linkedin, it is a good resource when looking for a job
12:10 < RangerZ1> b/c it qualifies as a 'national job posting'
12:12 < RangerZ1> I find it funny that my friend from SF was ranting about linkedin and how they .... something... (honestly I stopped listening after I realized it was silly)...
12:13 < RangerZ1> and I just sat there and stared at her in the skype call, and was like... really... really... is SF that fucked up that you think that having basically a public resume isn't going to help... (let alone the DB of job postings)
12:16 < RangerZ1> so... Ghostbusters release date announced as july 22nd of 2016... and the staring role cast wasn't even 100% until last week... I hope they aren't time-crunching themselves too much...
12:17 < RangerZ1> makes me think they are NOT going for CG heavy movie
12:19 <@oddball> Oh, are they seriously going with the all female cast including Melissa McCarthy?
12:20 <@oddball> aka the female Chris Farely
12:20 < RangerZ1> yeah, apparently
12:20 < RangerZ1> 4 female commedians that I really don't recognize
12:20 <@oddball> sooo... look for fat jokes and humor through being annoying.
12:21 < RangerZ1> M&M I've at least heard of, but never watched her movies
12:21 <@benthemeek> She was a guest on the daily show when I was in the audience
12:21 <@benthemeek> Seemed like a pretty sweet down to earth person IRL
12:22 < RangerZ1> if you want to hear a cast listing that is insane... the new Adam Sandler film on Netflix has like half of IMDB
12:22 < RangerZ1> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/new-all-female-ghostbusters-cast-767610
12:22 < PigBot`> Title: New All-Female Ghostbusters Cast Chosen - The Hollywood Reporter (at www.hollywoodreporter.com)
12:22 <@benthemeek> Do those ever go well?
12:22 <@benthemeek> The star heavy movies?
12:22 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: sandler films, yes b/c they are all cameos
12:22 <@oddball> benthemeek: Oh, I'm not saying I think she's a bad person, just that her humor is based on "I'm fat and annoying."
12:23 <@benthemeek> I cant think of any in memory that I thought were very  good
12:23 < RangerZ1> sandler's films don't do 'super' well in the US, but they still make lots of money oversees, etc
12:23 < RangerZ1> 'fits a niche'
12:23 <@benthemeek> I actually liked his last one with Drew Barrymore
12:23 <@oddball> I liked the Expendables movies, but I knew they were going to be stupid going in.
12:23 <@benthemeek> it got horrible reviews on rotten tomatoes though I think
12:24 < RangerZ1> http://www.mtv.com/news/2060755/adam-sandler-netflix-ridiculous-six-cast/
12:24 < PigBot`> Title: See The 17 'Ridiculous' Actors Joining Adam Sandler's Netflix Movie - MTV (at www.mtv.com)
12:25 <@oddball> Well, I'd talk about this trainwreck more, but I've got to get ready to drive 9 hours.
12:26 < RangerZ1> I liked the theory that Sandler is a sadistic friend , who only makes movies so that he can give his friends money for making fools of themselves
12:31 < RangerZ1> so... thats 3 SNL stars and Melissa McCarthy... who I'd say her best work is Mike and Molly
12:32 < RangerZ1> where she _isn't_ annoying
12:35 <@benthemeek> My wife was a big fan of gilmore girls
12:35 <@benthemeek> She was good in that from what I have seen
12:36 <@Dolemite> yeah she was hilarious in GG
12:36 <@benthemeek> I will admit to have never a actually seen on of her comedy movies
12:36 <@Dolemite> Though her role wasn't truly comedic
12:36 <@benthemeek> But fat jokes get old and are stupid
12:36 <@Dolemite> Bridesmaids was a riot
12:36 <@benthemeek> (If that is what they are like)
12:37 <@benthemeek> HAvent seen that one yet
12:37 <@Dolemite> It's not fat jokes, it's women behaving like men jokes
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12:39 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: I am thinking of lying to this hotel about my room since they wont allow 3 children in a 2 queen room
12:39 <@benthemeek> the one for geeknic I mean
12:39 <@benthemeek> This is a common problem
12:39 <@Dagmar> inquire about a portable bed
12:39 <@Dolemite> just tell them that the third child is staying in Wilpig's room
12:39 <@benthemeek> For my family I mean
12:40 <@benthemeek> bingo
12:40 <@benthemeek> thanks for the tip ;)
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12:40 <@Dolemite> Or better yet, just tell them that your oldest daughter will be staying in the room with the buyer
12:43 <@benthemeek> Wow I had know idea this happened https://aie-guild.org/2014/01/29/eve-online-the-most-expensive-battle-ever-waged/
12:43 < PigBot`> Title: EVE Online: The Most Expensive Battle Ever Waged. | Alea Iacta Est (at aie-guild.org)
12:43 <@shapr> good morning
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12:43 <@benthemeek> I can't imagine the amount of money spent/lost in an online battle like that
12:44 <@benthemeek> I bet dissertations could be written on a conflict of that scale
12:55 < aestetix> wait wait wait
12:55 < aestetix> wikipedia banned users for violating their ToS?
12:56 < RangerZ> not 'users'
12:56 < RangerZ> feminists
12:56 < RangerZ> feminist are better than everyone else
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12:57 < RangerZ> benthemeek: yeah, they even changed the zone, and made it have tons of ship hulls broken in half/etc floating about
12:57 < RangerZ> benthemeek: it was something like 200k USD
12:57 < RangerZ> IIRC
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12:58 < RangerZ> aestetix: I'm sick of the wiki story, b/c all these people -stating- that gamergate is pro sexism/rape/doxing/etc... without any -attempt- to be convincing
12:59 < RangerZ> just making declarative sentences, wanting you to take it as fact, and then glossing over ENTIRELY why the '5 feminists of the online equivilant of selma'(thats just how they are treating it)  were banned
13:00 < RangerZ> if you read the gamergate controversy wiki article, it is very anti-GG, but apparently it wasn't 'enough' for these editors
13:01 < RangerZ> << still can't find a single article stating 'what exactly' happened, other than a flame war over that and a few other pages
13:03 < Evilpig_> just so I can feed the trolls i'll set this up as a clean line for someone to take out of context.
13:03 < Evilpig_> I'm pro-banning women from the internet, unless they're being camwhores.
13:03 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: That's pretty much why they're handing out bans now.  Failure to cite any sort of references.
13:05 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I swear to god... I actually -tried- to find evidence to support their side, but I basically did a manual web-spider BFS search of the blog articles I could find... and they were copy/pasting large %s of each page from each other, without attribution
13:05 < RangerZ> it got to the point... that I bookmarked them all for a later analysis
13:06 < RangerZ> b/c some actual statistics on this would be interesting.
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13:07 < rattle> BOOM.  https://blog.bit9.com/2015/01/28/screenshot-demo-carbon-black-live-response-in-action/
13:07 < PigBot`> Title: Screenshot Demo: Carbon Black “Live Response” in Action | Bit9 + Carbon Black Blog (at blog.bit9.com)
13:08 < RangerZ> rattle: why boom?
13:09 < RangerZ> that a product your company sells?
13:09 < RangerZ> ahh, ok, nvm... I'm too tired...
13:11 <@Dagmar> rattle: Very nice
13:12 < RangerZ> yes, looks very impressive
13:31 < Evilpig_> how do I get into the beta for this?  hehe  http://geekologie.com/2015/01/people-experiencing-virtual-reality-p0rn.php
13:31 < PigBot`> Title: People Experiencing Virtual Reality P0rn For First Time | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
13:45 < Evilpig_> Dagmar.... yes.    http://geekologie.com/2015/01/quadcopter-with-fireworks-attached-shoot.php
13:45 < PigBot`> Title: Quadcopter With Fireworks Attached Shooting Some Guy | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
13:46 <@Dagmar> :)
13:47 <@Dagmar> Literal fiery death from above.  :)
13:54 < RangerZ> Evilpig_: http://feature.mmosite.com/content/2008-02-25/20080225223157278,1.shtml my friends saw this at the ... 2006 or 07 E3
13:54 < PigBot`> Title: 3Feel: The First Adult MMO Global CB - MMORPG Feature - MMOsite.com (at feature.mmosite.com)
13:55 < RangerZ> it apparently has 3 'parts' that you put on your body, and the MMO controls them
14:07 < Evilpig_> wow.  tumblr's going on lockdown tomorrow until monday
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14:18 <@Dagmar> Any particular reason?
14:24 < RangerZ> DashCon2 ?
14:25 < RangerZ> also, does that mean the data center too?
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14:49 < ShadowHn1r> anyone need a Linux or UNIX admin at their work?
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14:50 < RangerZ> Shadow404: yeah, but I don't think you'll want to work for what _I_ can pay to not have to setup the server instances myself, lol
14:52 <@ShadowHntr> tab completion didn't quite work right... lol ;)
14:52 <@ShadowHntr> *that* bad?
14:53 < RangerZ> ShadowHntr: I could pay 100$
14:53 < RangerZ> lol
14:54 < RangerZ> (was really just a joke, lol)
15:00 <@ShadowHntr> oh. curse you ;)
15:24 < RangerZ> ShadowHntr: you'll have to get in line to do that ;)
15:24 < RangerZ> http://kotaku.com/sources-aol-shutting-down-joystiq-1681996505 so that sucks...
15:24 < PigBot`> Title: AOL Shutting Down Joystiq (at kotaku.com)
15:25 < RangerZ> the employees of Joystiq knows that they are getting shut down... but haven't been 'officially' told... so they can't comment on the news... for fear of being told to just shut down that day...
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15:46 < RangerZ> question: cPanel certs worth anything (not for me, just curious, know a guy saying he might look into getting them)
15:57 < RangerZ> to -me- it seems a bit silly to just get a cert for a single hosting solution... but I'm not _in_ that sub-industry, so I don't know how widespread it is, and how useful the cert would be for him
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16:28 < Evilpig_> RangerZ: kick him in the nuts and repeat after me "cpanel"  *kick him again* "cpanel" *kick him again"
16:28 < Evilpig_> tell him you're training his brain that when he hears or says cpanel, he's gonna get kicked in the nuts
16:32 < RangerZ> yeah, he's stuck in a cycle of shit jobs b/c he has only had shit jobs before... so he's looking into 'certs'
16:32 < RangerZ> and I was like... umm... wtf...
16:32 < Evilpig_> so he'll be certified shit.
16:32 < Evilpig_> explain it to him like that
16:32 < RangerZ> yeah, thats probably the best way then, lol
16:34 < Evilpig_> a cert might get you a second look from an hr drone but anyone that is worth their weight won't take a second glance
16:48 < aestetix> why would a cert confuse someone
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17:26 < aestetix> oh wow
17:26 < aestetix> http://chronicle.com/article/The-Day-the-Purpose-of-College/151359/
17:26 < PigBot`> Title: The Day the Purpose of College Changed - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education (at chronicle.com)
17:26 < aestetix> so reagan is the one who fucked up college
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17:55 < RangerZ> aestetix: of course
17:55 < RangerZ> in cali college in UC system was free until him/his policies
17:57 < RangerZ> so...
17:57 < RangerZ> Did anyone get a reply back from the officers? NotLarry ?
17:57 < aestetix> I guess he really didn't understand what education is actually about
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18:00 < RangerZ> no he did
18:00 < aestetix> He was just evil?
18:00 < RangerZ> no
18:00 < RangerZ> reagan himself, like bush, was a great figurehead who actually believed what he spouted
18:00 < RangerZ> he was just dumb
18:01 < RangerZ> lol
18:01 <@Bahhumbug> As much as it pains me to say... cpanel certs are worth something in the hosting world.
18:01 < RangerZ> (I blame the alzheimer's
18:10 < dfused> I blame the lizard ppl
18:21 < Evilpig_> I blame RangerZ's parents
18:21 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXYwT5s7ASE HAHAHA
18:21 < PigBot`> Title: When Facebook Went Down, People Called 911. Be Afraid... - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:22 < RangerZ> Evilpig_: nah, my parents weren't old enough to vote for reagan the first time he won...
18:22 < RangerZ> hmm... my dad might have been... by a month
18:22 < aestetix> they had you when they were 15?
18:22 < Evilpig_> that's what we're blaming things for?
18:22 < Evilpig_> booooo
18:22 < RangerZ> no
18:24 < Evilpig_> I've made a huge dent into our cable supplies today
18:24 < Evilpig_> we have so much 30' green cat6 it's not funny
18:24 < RangerZ> Evilpig_: making human sized cat5-people doesn't count 'as work'
18:25 < Evilpig_> a good portion of our cables were in cardboard boxes.  its' all getting moved into dedicated storage right now
18:33 < dfused> wth ... boxes count as storage
18:47 < Evilpig_> dfused: unlabeled boxes with multiple colors and lengths in them are not good for productivity
18:52 < Evilpig_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iret61xfw6u7p0x/2015-01-28%2018.42.09.jpg?dl=0
18:53 < dfused> there should be a crime against being that organized
18:54 < Evilpig_> if you could read the labels you'd see how unorganized it really is
18:54 < Evilpig_> the rolling cart has all single mode fiber on the left side, multimode on the right
18:55 < Evilpig_> all lengths and connectors from 1m - 30m  mix of lc/sc, lc/lc, sc/sc
18:55 < dfused> well then... so what you're saying is, yu've decided to let your OCD take over today.
18:55 < Evilpig_> but imagine all that cable in a stack of cardboard boxes 5' tall, 3' wide and probably 6' deep or so
18:56 < dfused> 6feet? ...damn... you'd have to dive in
18:56 < Evilpig_> nah.  had two guys working on some up coming fiber runs, another guy working on cabling up some power runs for a different upcoming project. 
18:57 < Evilpig_> so I took over one of the back burner projects that needed to be done so we know how much cable to order to complete another project
18:57 < dfused> there you go again with all that logic and efficiency
18:57 < Evilpig_> damn logic
18:57 < Evilpig_> that has no place here...
18:58 < Evilpig_> quotes from support:  "Im Male 35 India & Looking for opportunity in porn industry and much fascinated in it. Curiously looking for lucrative chance"
18:58 < Evilpig_> i'm outta here
18:58 < dfused> o7
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19:51 <@Dagmar> Why are we not allowed to skin users alive, again?
20:01 <@Bahhumbug> Wait a minute.  You're saying we're _not_ permitted to do that?  Oops.  My bad.
20:03 <@Dagmar> Seriously
20:04 <@Dagmar> I feel like I should shove cotton into my cheeks and explain carefully to some of these people about the nature of the favor they're asking of me to add faction support to this widget
20:05 <@Dagmar> TO make this shit happen, I have to add another 110 images to the five fucking hundred I've already generate
20:09 <@Dagmar> "You found paradise in America... You had a good trade, you made a good living... police protected you in courts of law
20:09 <@Dagmar> You didn't need a friend like me.
20:10 <@Dagmar> But now... you come to me and say... give me a hundred more images.
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20:19 < RangerZ> Dagmar: did you see the comment on google play asking for stretchable widget? so that it can take up the entire screen?
20:21  * RangerZ steps back quickly and quietly into the shadows before Dagmar explodes
20:24 <@Dagmar> You should consider your words carefully.
20:24 < RangerZ> hehe
20:25 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Is it a matter of just tinting or color changing some images, or do you have to actually do other stuff?
20:26 <@Dagmar> Unless I want Android to savage my pixel placement, it means doing both halves of the frame in four new colorations...
20:27 <@Dagmar> The left half of which are fucking 9-patches so I can't just slap an overlay on them if I want them to still work right...
20:27 <@Dagmar> ...as well as four new colorations of the seven cycle pels.
20:27 <@Dagmar> ...in all five supported resolutions.
20:27 <@Dagmar> I didn't just pick that number of 110 out of a hat.
20:28 < _NSAKEY> Can't you do the resizing with some sort of batch image processor?
20:28 <@Dagmar> If I want subtle artifacting, sure.
20:28 < _NSAKEY> Oh. You want perfection. Got it.
20:28 <@Dagmar> Yes.
20:29 <@Dagmar> I am exporting each bitmap one at a time from within Inkscape for all five resolutions
20:29 <@Dagmar> Oh and then manicuring the damn 9-patch files
20:30 <@Dagmar> I would just have the phone do the colorations on white bitmaps, _except_ this will happen roughly 3,600 times an hour.
20:30 <@Dagmar> This is part of the reason I'm generating these at native res
20:31 <@Dagmar> ...or whatever's supposed to be native res
20:31 <@Dagmar> I want the phone wasting exactly _zero_ unnecessary clockcycles
20:31 <@Dagmar> ...and frankly, I'm will throw support for < v9 phones out the window if someone complains about battery
20:31 <@Dagmar> There's a method available at v9 for partial view updates
20:31 < _NSAKEY> And you're willing to sacrifice man hours and disk space on the phone to get the CPU cycles down.
20:32 <@Dagmar> The disk space is still nothing
20:32 <@Dagmar> The whole app takes up about 3.8Mb
20:32 < _NSAKEY> That's not too bad. I've got some dots game on my phone that takes up a hell of a lot more than that, and I don't even play it anymore.
20:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah, it's not a lot of data to store, even if it is a crapload of itty bitty pieces.  PNG works very nicely for this.
20:34 <@Dagmar> Anyway, if you saw what happens to PNGs with transparent areas on an HDPI or lower device, you would completely understand why I don't want to have _any_ artifacts
20:34 <@Dagmar> Stuff gets resized by visible pixel's difference
20:35 <@Dagmar> So on my tablet (Xoom, HDPI) you can see the numbers sort of bouncing up and down a bit
20:36 <@Dagmar> ...and unless I want to do these things somewhere north of 1024x1024 resolution, there's no common denominator I can think of
20:36 <@Dagmar> Not for 1, 1.5, 2, 3 and 4.
20:36 <@Dagmar> Those basically being the dp<->px multipliers for the various resolutions
20:37 <@Dagmar> I can't wait to maybe get L on my phone, but I imagine we won't see a lot of the fancy it's capable of for quite some time
20:37 <@Dagmar> You can do _vector_ drawables
20:38 <@Dagmar> ...but, as far as I know, using them safely is going to require shipping an actual java-v22 directory
20:38 <@Dagmar> I don't know if that's even possible, although I assume it should be
20:39 <@Dagmar> Every other path seems abstracted seven ways from Sunday, so the classpath search probably is too
20:41 < RangerZ> Dagmar: nexus 7 has L
20:41 < RangerZ> you have one of those don't you?
20:43 <@Dagmar> No
20:44 <@Shadow404> i love my samsung active s5
20:46 < Evilpig_> I'm thinking when the GS6 comes out it might be time to upgrade finally
20:47 <@Shadow404> yeah, it was time for me to upgrade my s3
20:48 <@Dagmar> I'll say this tho...
20:48 <@Dagmar> If I have to add any more sillyass features to this app, it won't be in a free version
20:48 <@Dagmar> If people want me to cater to their whims, MONEY should be heading my way
20:50 < Evilpig_> viril link:  https://twitter.com/virgilgr/status/560499057332719616
20:50 < PigBot`> Title: Virgil Griffith on Twitter: "It’s a spectrum…. right? http://t.co/ZXreKQQEML" (at twitter.com)
20:50 < Evilpig_> I just rofl'd at it
20:51 <@Dagmar> heheh
20:51 <@Dagmar> I like Virgil but I still liked the gamer reality show better
20:52 <@Dagmar> It had more amusing "accidental disclosures"
20:52 <@Dagmar> Like when they were asked to do figure 8's around a pair of cones in a fast car.
20:52 <@Dagmar> One girl ran over the cones, one guy did passingly well...
20:52 < Evilpig_> I should order some dinner
20:53 <@Dagmar> ...and for no reason other than she CLEARLY DRIVES LIKE A MANIAC ALL THE TIME this one chick with fire engine red hair and fingerless gloves pretty much _drifts_ her way around both cones like it's nothin'
20:53 <@Dagmar> You could see the hosts looking at each other like "Maybe we better make a habit of letting her get out of the parking lot ahead of us from now on"
20:54 < Evilpig_> OooooooO!!!!!!  https://www.dropbox.com/s/3dlenapzfdc9onl/Screen%20Shot%202015-01-28%20at%208.53.48%20PM.png?dl=0
20:54 < Evilpig_> about time!
20:54 <@Dagmar> Cuz this is not a thing one easily does in a car they've never touched before
20:55 <@Dagmar> I know what it took for me to be able to drive like that when I was 19
20:55 <@Dagmar> (Brave passengers)
20:56 <@Dagmar> On a freshly paved and sealed street I could drift a four door passenger sedan
20:58 <@Shadow404> i use to dift my 1991 ford explorer like there was no tomorrow
20:59 <@Shadow404> could do donuts and aything in that tank, almost impossible to get that thing to on two wheels
20:59 < RangerZ1> I had an 84 AMC eagle I bought for 500$....
20:59 <@Shadow404> it also had a great alarm system i could trip the panic siren while i was driving
21:00 <@Shadow404> and mixed with a cb mic and antenna, gave a false impression
21:00 <@Dagmar> Subtle!
21:00 < RangerZ1> 4 wheel drive... 6 cyl... I could both drift in that thing... and drive in 2ft snow... lol
21:18 <@Dagmar> 35 more pels to go
21:24 <@Dagmar> pels done.  now to begin slitting my wrists
21:24 <@Dagmar> I mean... building the new 9-patch files
21:29 <@Shadow404> oh i wanna build an app that send a list of power button codes for my IR tx on the phone
21:29 <@Shadow404> like the tv-b-gones
21:29 <@Shadow404> but on the phone
21:29 <@Shadow404> and i can even select which button i wanna storm
21:29 <@Shadow404> mute, volume up, etc
21:30 <@Shadow404> that would be great in a bar, could just leave phone on the bar top, eat my meal, press a button, turn off the screen and have it still running and watch the madness begin as all 50+ tv's start acting up
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21:53 <@Dagmar> Friday's going to be FUUUUN
21:53 <@Dagmar> Ingress cross-faction meetup at McNamara's Irish Pub/Restaurant
21:54 <@Dagmar> ...and some fucking fundamentalists have already begun wittering about the fact that the place sells alcohol.
21:55 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that the argument could easily be made that by playing this game we are probably consorting with demons and collecting particles of pure idolatry.
21:57 <@Dagmar> I'll have to make sure to have a couple of bloody marys sent to their table
21:57 <@Dagmar> "Hey it's not like it's real blood"
21:57 <@sdodson_> oh send me one
21:57 <@Dagmar> "...or anyone's pretending it's blood."
21:58 <@Dagmar> If this were anything but a _conspicuous_ observance on their part, they'd have never brought it up.
22:02 < RangerZ1> mormons can -go in bars- they just don't _drink_ the alcohol
22:02 < RangerZ1> if you're -more- crazy than the mormons...
22:03 <@Dagmar> I suspec these are Witnesses
22:04 <@Dagmar> ...or better still, they're some form of made-up stripe of Christian lunatic
22:04 <@sdodson_> They're not all made up?
22:04 < RangerZ1> BS, I've gone to dinner with a jehova's witness
22:04 <@Dagmar> They've already managed to name-drop that they used to run a church
22:05 <@Dagmar> These are probably some kind of damn snake fondler
22:05 <@Dagmar> ...but if they're Witnesses I'll get extra blasphemy points for having a couple of bloody marys sent to their table.
22:06 <@Dagmar> There's few things I dislike more than _conspicuous_ christians
22:07 <@sdodson_> Monologues? I bet you hate monologues.
22:07 <@Dagmar> If they're witnesses they should have balked when I pointed out the place used to be a funeral home
22:08 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: the thing is... witnesses don't avoid alcohol
22:08 < RangerZ1> they avoid 'drunkeness'
22:08 <@Dagmar> Then these are likely some holy roller types
22:08 <@Dagmar> My favorite kind of victim
22:08 < RangerZ1> I've sat and dinner at a witness family's dinner where they (the parents) had wine
22:09 <@Dagmar> Two rounds of conversation basically, and both rounds have involved one of them letting us know how holy they are.
22:10 <@Dagmar> Mind you were all going to this place to see a fancy minivan.
22:10 <@Dagmar> It's not like they can even pull it _inside_ the restaurant
22:10 < RangerZ1> ...more than once...
22:10 < RangerZ1> hehehe
22:10 <@Dagmar> This is an old building.  Solidly constructed.
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22:13 <@sdodson_> Dagmar, what are you working on to hit L11?
22:13 <@Dagmar> Oh Drigger is you?
22:13 <@Dagmar> lol
22:13 <@Dagmar> Not a fuckin' thing
22:13 <@sdodson_> Dagmar, yeah, was the easiest way to view your profile.
22:14 <@Dagmar> I can find no way to respect a level progression which awards next to nothing, in exchange for jumping through thousands of arbitrary hoops
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22:14 <@sdodson_> According to agent-stats.com I'll hit L11 February 2016 via 13,500 resonator deploys.
22:14 < RangerZ1> so... Dagmar do we want to meet up at JJs on next friday to call comcast in unison, to ask when we can get 1gbit/1gbit internet for 70$/mo
22:15 < RangerZ1> hehehe
22:15 <@Dagmar> I'm about halfway to another gold in the three obvious categories... blowin' shit up, making fields, and deployin'
22:16 <@Dagmar> I'm lookin' to get my link:field ratio below three, so I won't be spamming links for a badge
22:16 <@sdodson_> I should travel somewhere and get pioneer and explorer golds.
22:16 <@Dagmar> 1878:673
22:16 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: That's a fucking EXCELLENT idea
22:16 <@Dagmar> Muahahahahah
22:17 <@sdodson_> 2919:685 for me
22:18 < RangerZ1> oh god... actually... I wonder if you could make a protest by getting hundreds of people to do that... all at once... just hammering their customer support with that
22:19 <@sdodson_> Dagmar, hah, i just found this, it'll show you where you place against global stats for those who submit data
22:19 < RangerZ1> I wonder if the news would do a section on it (if a slow news day, lol)
22:20 <@sdodson_> including building vs destroying, link vs fields
22:21 <@Dagmar> Sweet.
22:22 <@Dagmar> Our local smurfs just don't understand scoring
22:22 <@Dagmar> They seem to think something is accomplished by blowing up all the green they see and then just deploying
22:22 <@Dagmar> Triangles are apparently an aggressively advanced concept.
22:22 <@sdodson_> I'm right at the tip of the bell curve for level, ap. Slightly to the destroyer side in build vs destroy.
22:23 <@sdodson_> way to the linker side of link vs field
22:24 <@sdodson_> I don't invest enough time in it to bother to create fields. I destroy and build during my normal daily activities.
22:24 <@Dagmar> I have four more 9-patch files to make, and then I get to figure out how to force the widgets to re-check shared prefs
22:24 <@Dagmar> sdodson_: To put it bluntly, around here if the stacks were combined into one list, it would 8 green names out of 10, 29 days out of the month
22:25 <@sdodson_> Out of all the cycles, green has only won five of them in our sector.
22:25 <@Dagmar> I would love to finish up this software, but I need a damn pizza
22:25 <@Dagmar> Here it's basically the opposite
22:26 <@Dagmar> Smurfs make fields out in banjo country.
22:26 <@Dagmar> We stack the hell out of fields in high population areas and then go watch some TV.
22:26 <@Dagmar> :)
22:27 <@sdodson_> We've started studying population density maps, the only times they win is when they cover the entire area
22:27 <@sdodson_> And by 'We' I mean the team, not me.
22:27 <@Dagmar> That's the thing to do
22:27 <@Dagmar> It makes a huge difference
22:28 <@Dagmar> I can field three miles south from here and get the same MU as fielding 15 miles in the other direction
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22:52 <@Dagmar> "Step inside my parlor," said the hacker to the pizza.
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23:04 <@sdodson_> Dagmar, like this, this is the only way they win our sector. https://www.ingress.com/intel?ll=35.869862,-78.685&z=9
23:04 < PigBot`> Title: Ingress Intel Map (at www.ingress.com)
23:05 <@sdodson_> That field went up 5 minutes before the checkpoint.
23:06 <@Dagmar> You should still probably holler at some people in Pikeville or it'll be up all night
23:06 <@sdodson_> And that brought the numbers to 346k vs 279k
23:06 <@sdodson_> They're working on it
23:08 <@Dagmar> We don't let the smurfs pull that over Nashville anymore
23:08 <@Dagmar> The moment we see lanes opening up, we go make problems
23:08 <@sdodson_> It's actually all hanging off of one portal in Bennetville, in Pikeville there's a handful of portals
23:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah so you must have had at least two people out there in two different places then
23:11 <@Dagmar> Next time you see that sort of thing happening, get someone who knows how to use Zello to act as ops, send one person who has a lot of keys out across a lane, and have another person work the inbouns side capturing and fully-populating the portals they have keys for
23:12 < Evilpig_> https://www.tumblr.com/everybodyontheinternet
23:12 <@Dagmar> In my case that's basically, everything in northwest Nashville
23:13 <@Dagmar> Have the guy who went long fire a blocking link and then head to another portal a mile or so away, and just *wait*
23:13 <@Dagmar> 'cuz people who want to make megafields *will* send someone to take it down
23:14 <@Dagmar> You can make that cat & mouse game go on for *hours*.  :)
23:15 <@Dagmar> evilpig_: ?
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23:21 < Evilpig_> I didn't realize that wasn't a public link yet, apparently
23:34 < RangerZ> aestetix: did you lose your suitcase today?
23:35 < RangerZ> in completely unrelated news.... http://abc7news.com/news/sfpd-investigate-dismembered-body-found-in-suitcase/495284
23:35 < PigBot`> Title: San Francisco police investigate dismembered body found in suitcase at 11th Street near Mission | abc7news.com (at abc7news.com)
23:36 <@Dagmar> Sheeeet
23:40 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: So... let me get this straight...
23:41 <@Dagmar> super.onRecieve(context, intent) is what you invoke to pass what you got along to the parent method you overrode?
23:41 <@Dagmar> I'm having trouble seeing _sense_ in doing that
23:41 <@Dagmar> Maybe I'm just not being fancy enough yet
23:42 < RangerZ> pretty much
23:42 < RangerZ> it is for making a 'base class' and then mutliple children classes
23:42 <@Dagmar> I guess that would be useful for someone who wants to just stack up a pile of overrides?
23:43 <@Dagmar> This is one of those things about java that frankly, I find perverted and distasteful.
23:43 < RangerZ> umm
23:43 < RangerZ> no
23:43 < RangerZ> lol
23:43 < RangerZ> its a base principle of OO languages
23:44 <@Dagmar> I firmly believe that if you pass the wrong type of arguments, you should get an ERROR and possibly a dumped core for your carelessness.
23:44 <@Dagmar> It shoudn't go rummaging around for something that matches.
23:44 < RangerZ> it doesn't
23:44 <@Dagmar> wat
23:45 < RangerZ> you can have multiple functions with different "N.O.T." (Number, order, type) of parameters
23:45 < RangerZ> with same name
23:45 <@Dagmar> I thought if you had methodOne(int, long) and methodOne(long) defined, if you called methodOne(long epoch) you'd get the second one, and if you called methodOne(int foo, long epoch) you'd get the first
23:46 < RangerZ> that is 'overloading' not 'overriding'
23:46 < RangerZ> super is in response to 'overriding'
23:46 < RangerZ> which impliments the 'exact' same method in a child class
23:46 <@Dagmar> Yes, where apparently you can have methodOne(long), methodOne(long), and methodOne(long) all at once
23:46 < RangerZ> no
23:47 < RangerZ> not in java
23:47 <@Dagmar> ...which I believe leads to loose morals and perhaps tooth decay.
23:47 <@Dagmar> Hrm... I'll have to circle back around to that later then
23:47 < RangerZ> you can only have ONE method with a given 'method signature'
23:48 < RangerZ> you CAN have methodOne(long), methodOne(int), methodOne(int, long), methodOne(long,int), methodOne(long,int,string)
23:48 < RangerZ> but you CAN NOT have methodOne(string), methodOne(String)
23:48 < RangerZ> 'in the same class'
23:49 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm going to have to wait until I see a time when I would actually do that before it will make sense
23:49 <@Dagmar> Right now...
23:49 <@Dagmar> protected static final String FACTION_CHANGED = "surrealestates.septiclockwidget.TRAITOR";
23:49 < RangerZ> ignore the S capitalization on the 2nd one
23:49 < RangerZ> hehe
23:50 < RangerZ> you 'could' make a open (publicaly read only to other apps on the phone) DB ...
23:50 < RangerZ> "content provider" specifically
23:51 < RangerZ> where you store a bunch of data
23:52 < RangerZ> OR just "I'm a traitor" = 1
23:52 < RangerZ> hehe
23:54 < RangerZ> I still say ContentProviders are the way of the future when it comes to file storage
23:55 < aestetix> http://hackersurfing.com/
23:55 < RangerZ> MSFT and Apple have been moving that way for a while now
23:55 < PigBot`> Title: Hacker Surfing | Free lodging in SF for engineers and designers. No strings. (at hackersurfing.com)
23:55 <@Dagmar> No that's actually the lazy-ass intent string I'm using to issue an order from the configuration application back to the widgets
23:56 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I figured, I just meant you 'could'
23:56 < RangerZ> lol
23:56 < RangerZ> aestetix: did you see the suitcase body thing?
23:56 < aestetix> yes
23:56 < aestetix> I was focused on the fire though
23:56 < RangerZ> fire?
23:57 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/MLNow
23:57 < PigBot`> Title: Mission Local (@MLNow) | Twitter (at twitter.com)
23:57 < aestetix> the other huge drama going on in the mission
23:57 < RangerZ> ahh
23:58 <@Dagmar> Wow.  The chainsaws will be busy tonight
23:59 < RangerZ> Dagmar: they already were
23:59 < RangerZ> hence the suitcase
23:59 < RangerZ> (too soon?)
23:59 <@Dagmar> No those are cleavers
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