--- Log opened Mon Jan 19 00:00:10 2015 00:02 <@Dagmar> I wonder... 00:02 <@Dagmar> R.drawable.null <-- MIGHT be valid 00:06 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 00:20 <@Dagmar> I will just put a 1x1 empty PNG in there. 00:46 < RangerZ> aestetix: https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/2sw3is/part_3_wupdates_tifu_by_reading_my_wifes_text/ 00:46 < PigBot`> Title: [PART 3 w/UPDATES] TIFU by reading my wife's text messages. She's cheating on me. : tifu (at www.reddit.com) 00:51 < aestetix> jesus 00:51 < aestetix> that post has 10,000 comments 00:51 < aestetix> er, upvotes 00:51 < aestetix> you know 00:52 < aestetix> that whole thing could have been avoided by her saying "I'm interested in dating this other guy, I will only do it with your consent, and this doesn't change how I feel about you" 00:52 <@Dagmar> Okay. Fuck it. This is another one of those "NOT POSSIBLE" things 00:52 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to color the images manually. 00:53 <@Dagmar> Irksome, but not the end of the world. 00:53 <@Dagmar> Umm... Maybe I can speed this up with ImageMagick again 00:53 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: It seems like a lot of what I'm learning is all the things you're not allowed to do with RemoteViews 00:54 <@Evilpig> aestetix: that would have flown as well as a brick 00:54 < RangerZ> aestetix: most people aren't on the Autism spectrum 00:54 < aestetix> RangerZ: how is that autistic 00:55 < RangerZ> only someone who was, or had been completely crushed in previous relationships wouldn't care about someoene 'seeing' someone else when married 00:55 <@Dagmar> ...or a swinger. 00:55 < RangerZ> but that would be a known 'thing' 00:55 < RangerZ> (you'd think) 00:55 < RangerZ> lol 00:58 < aestetix> uhhhhh 00:58 < aestetix> It depends on their boundary discussion, assuming they had one. 00:59 < RangerZ> I didn't say 'all austistic' 00:59 <@Evilpig> aestetix: i'm pretty sure at the point at where he had her sign a pre-nup with a cheating clause the boundary lines were drawn very clearly 01:00 < RangerZ> did he? 01:00 <@Evilpig> yes 01:00 < RangerZ> or is he just in a 'at fault' state? 01:00 < RangerZ> wow, I don't remember seeing that 01:00 <@Evilpig> he mentioned the prenup 01:01 < RangerZ> then he must be fairly loaded then 01:01 < aestetix> http://yiannopoulos.net/2015/01/19/questions-for-shanley-kane/ 01:01 < PigBot`> Title: Questions for Shanley Kane - Milo Yiannopoulos (at yiannopoulos.net) 01:03 < RangerZ> aestetix: thats shitty 01:03 < RangerZ> he shouldn't have done that, makes him look bad 01:03 < RangerZ> just because someone is abusive doesn't mean the other person doesn't "think" they need to stay with them, or 'go to them' , etc 01:04 < aestetix> RangerZ: I think he made that public because she wouldn't reply to private emails form him. 01:04 < RangerZ> doesn't matter 01:04 < RangerZ> its not a good move 01:04 < aestetix> I'm just the messenger :p 01:04 < RangerZ> and it doesn't need addressed 01:04 < aestetix> But yeah I sort of agree with you 01:04 < aestetix> He should just let her self-implode 01:05 < aestetix> I notice that weev has gone radio silent on the issue. 01:05 < RangerZ> b/c he knows when to STFU when trolling 01:05 < RangerZ> and he's done his work 01:05 < RangerZ> lol 01:05 < aestetix> ok nvm that's not entirely true 01:06 < aestetix> Ok, weev is only posting inforomation defending himself 01:06 < aestetix> And nothing about her that I see, really 01:06 < RangerZ> http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/18/bully-gets-destroyed-after-mocking-schoolmates-dead-sister-for-the-last-time-video-nsfw/ 01:06 < RangerZ> wow... she beats her ass 01:07 < RangerZ> takes it too far... way... too far... 01:10 < aestetix> What it appears to me weev did 01:10 < aestetix> Was take away all her fury at Linus and redirect it at her. 01:10 < aestetix> And the reporter kinda fumbled into the mess. 01:11 < RangerZ> weev knew what he was doing 01:11 < RangerZ> he PICKED his target well 01:11 < aestetix> you mean the reporter or shanley? 01:12 < RangerZ> milo has 'some' credentials as real reporter, but he also does breitbart shit 01:12 < aestetix> got it 01:12 < RangerZ> even if he hadn't done anything on her before, he would have been a great choice for reporter 01:12 < aestetix> So basically weev reached out to someone who was semi-unknown and made them feel special. 01:12 < RangerZ> milo is 'known' 01:12 < aestetix> oh 01:12 < aestetix> I didn't know who he was before this 01:13 < aestetix> which means jack shit :p 01:13 < RangerZ> i mean he fits into a wierd "real reporter" that also does "s/hit pieces" 01:13 < RangerZ> place 01:13 < RangerZ> I looked into him b/c of GG 01:21 <@Bahhumbug> It's a shame someone hasn't put a couple .380s through weev's useful racist skull. 01:30 < RangerZ> waste of a good bullet, perhaps a quick sword to the throat 01:43 < RangerZ> http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fifty-shades-of-alan-shatter-steamy-novel-by-justice-minister-referred-to-censor-29284409.html 01:43 < PigBot`> Title: Fifty shades of Alan Shatter: steamy novel by Justice Minister referred to censor - Independent.ie (at www.independent.ie) 01:43 < RangerZ> hahaha 01:44 < RangerZ> 'justice' minister has to be censored by... justice minister's dept... 01:44 < RangerZ> "the novel advocates the procurement of an abortion or miscarriage, contrary to Irish censorship laws." 01:44 < RangerZ> wtf... you can't "advocate" that? 01:49 <@Dagmar> Wow 01:49 <@Dagmar> You know what really makes for great video recordings? 01:49 <@Dagmar> Forgetting to reconnect all three fucking cables. 01:50 <@Dagmar> I didn't really need red anyway. 01:52 <@Dagmar> Im' officially sick of tinting a dozen pixmaps over and over, so I might as well watch some sort of... cyanotic Librarians 01:56 <@Dagmar> ...also not amused the expedited airing two episodes each Sunday night 02:09 < RangerZ> Dagmar: ouch 02:10 < RangerZ> you need to stop _finding_ more old ass TVs in your appartment 02:10 <@Dagmar> No, ouch is that I'm staring down the barrel of manually creating about 165 images 02:10 < RangerZ> wtf dude 02:10 <@Dagmar> Hey I've only got two left now 02:10 < RangerZ> part of me thinks you're skipping something important 02:10 <@Dagmar> So the background is in two parts and has three states... 02:10 < RangerZ> or being OCD 02:10 <@Dagmar> ...the frame is in two parts and has four states... 02:11 <@Dagmar> There are 12 individual pips indicating where in the septicycle things are... two states for each... 02:11 <@Dagmar> Mind you this is ASSUMING I CAN ACTUALLY setImageViewResource(0) 02:11 <@Dagmar> Three labels... 02:11 -!- notfie [~fie@ip70-178-216-191.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11 <@Dagmar> Two states each 02:12 <@Dagmar> ...and have to do all those for xxxhdpi, xxhdpi, xhdpi, hdpi, and mdpi. 02:12 <@Dagmar> At least I already got the numbers done. 02:12 <@Dagmar> Four of those frames are 9-patch files so I won't be able to just slap a tint on them 02:13 < RangerZ> Dagmar: yes you can, BUT it isn't "good" to, lol 02:13 <@Dagmar> Well, I made a 1x1 blank PNG just in case 02:14 <@Dagmar> There doesn't seem to be a way to just unset an imageviewresource. Pfft. 02:14 <@Dagmar> I'm not skipping anything. 02:14 <@Dagmar> This is just a graphical display widget with a lot of different states. 02:15 <@Dagmar> I could easily write a five page operational spec on it 02:15 < RangerZ> lol 02:15 < RangerZ> damn dude 02:15 < RangerZ> I'm going to have to take a look at what you come up with 02:15 < RangerZ> thats insane 02:15 <@Dagmar> heheh 02:15 <@Dagmar> THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO TINT THE DAMN THINGS 02:15 < RangerZ> http://www.coindesk.com/roger-ver-denied-us-visa-attend-miami-bitcoin-conference/ HAHAHA 02:15 < PigBot`> Title: Roger Ver Denied US Visa to Attend Miami Bitcoin Conference (at www.coindesk.com) 02:15 <@Dagmar> ...but that's another thing you can't do with a widget 02:16 < RangerZ> Dagmar: why not just read the resource then run a bitmap process on it? 02:16 <@Dagmar> So... most of the images are presently _white_ 02:16 < RangerZ> you CAN do that 02:16 <@Dagmar> I gotta work with what I know works so far 02:16 <@Dagmar> This will at least be slightly less computational work for the phone 02:16 <@Dagmar> ...and all the images are small so I'm not pissing away tons of RAM 02:17 < RangerZ> bitcoin millionaire gives up US citizen to dodge taxes... upset he can't come to maimi bitcoin con.... HEHEHE 02:17 <@Dagmar> Yeah I heard about that and it's hilarious 02:17 <@Dagmar> Basically, they won't let him in because they don't think he'll go back. Heheh 02:20 <@Dagmar> Dude can't even get in for a vacation trip right now. Hehe 02:32 -!- notfie [~fie@ip70-178-216-191.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 02:37 < RangerZ> https://imgur.com/Gj3AxX9 02:37 < PigBot`> Title: /r/Skyrim successfully trolling a tumblr that steals theirs and others content - Imgur (at imgur.com) 02:37 < RangerZ> thats funny 02:43 <@Dagmar> hehehe 02:45 < RangerZ> if I knew tumblr better I'd try to find that (I think the account doesn't exist anymore, or I fail at finding it, lol) and link to isis.vandy 02:45 < RangerZ> lol 02:46 < RangerZ> and say "thanks, we appreciate it" 03:23 <@Dagmar> Allow me to suggest that you really have a _spectacularly_ bad idea there 03:24 <@Dagmar> Right up there with trying to put out a fire using unstable fluourines 03:24 <@Dagmar> The best thing can do with that sort of madness going on is avoid line of sight 03:26 < RangerZ> hehehe 03:27 < RangerZ> yeah I wouldn't actually do that 03:27 < RangerZ> just wait for the press release in a month or two, when darpa announces a grant to ISIS 03:27 < RangerZ> *trollface* 03:32 < RangerZ> Dagmar: you would have loved my suggestion for something to change ISIS to... 03:32 < RangerZ> The Education Regional Research Organization for Resource Intensive 03:32 < RangerZ> Systems of Tennessee State :TERRORISTS 03:33 <@Dagmar> Oh I would almost love to see the reaction of the administration for that one 03:33 < RangerZ> I emailed it to the ISIS mailing list 03:34 < RangerZ> b/c janos started it 03:34 < RangerZ> and when an IEEE fellow starts emails like that... (everyone else can get away with anything basically)(within isis) 03:34 <@Dagmar> Ooo... delicious plausible deniabilit 03:34 <@Dagmar> y! 03:35 <@Dagmar> Come to think of it (seque!) if Android devs consider this previewer acceptable, maybe I *don't* want to trust them with resizing my images 03:36 <@Dagmar> I mean, I haven't seen it screw one up yet, but maybe that's because everyone else already knows to invoke views.SetResizeMode(LANZCOS3) 03:38 < RangerZ> what 03:38 < RangerZ> ohh nvm 03:39 < RangerZ> thats probably one of those 'rabbit holes' I don't want to go down 03:40 < RangerZ> doing that is how I ended up writing the tool I used to base my research area on... 03:41 < RangerZ> Dagmar: have you considered that just programmatically creating the images at run time, might be faster? lol 03:41 < RangerZ> b/c 200 png images isn't 'small' 03:45 <@Dagmar> No, it's just tedious 03:45 <@Dagmar> ...and I've done worse 03:45 <@Dagmar> I went through about 12-15 iterations of the Elberg theme before I finally released it 03:45 <@Dagmar> ...doing each and every single piece in Corel Draw first. 03:46 <@Dagmar> I do not expect this widget will survive the end of the game in a year to a year and a half, but... I damn well know people will use it. 03:46 <@Dagmar> :) 03:46 <@Dagmar> Seeing this... 03:46 <@Dagmar> http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Elberg-inspired?content=164846 03:46 < PigBot`> Title: Elberg-inspired Box-Look.org (at box-look.org) 03:47 <@Dagmar> It's like being a plastic surgeon and watching Frankenstein lurching around dripping fluids everywhere 03:49 <@Dagmar> When you do some artwork _right_, it just goes on forever https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=elberg%20theme 03:49 < PigBot`> Title: Google (at www.google.com) 03:50 <@Dagmar> ...and according to http://www.microwavewatt.com/ when you have a 700-watt microwave oven, making rice also takes forever. 03:50 < PigBot`> Title: Microwave watt?! (at www.microwavewatt.com) 03:50 <@Dagmar> 20m 35s. *sigh* 03:52 < RangerZ> they announced an 'end' ? 03:53 <@Dagmar> Not specifically but they've given a loose timetable and they're already warming up the next iteration 03:54 <@Dagmar> I'll just reskin this thing if they have a time period mechanic ni the new game 03:55 <@Dagmar> I'm definitely going to eat rice and *not* the "new!" 'Salted Caramel' Ben & Jerry's I got earlier tonight 03:55 < RangerZ> 'sure' 03:55 < RangerZ> 'we all believe you' 03:57 <@Dagmar> lol http://xkcd.com/1474/ 03:57 < PigBot`> Title: xkcd: Screws (at xkcd.com) 03:58 <@Dagmar> I could always put it to a vote on G+ but I think we all know what choice late-night stoners are going to make 04:00 * RangerZ nods in agreement 04:08 < aestetix> ok 04:08 < aestetix> I just brought xycombinator back 04:08 < aestetix> It seems very relevant these days 04:14 < aestetix> http://www.xycombinator.com 04:14 < PigBot`> Title: XY Combinator (at www.xycombinator.com) 04:16 < RangerZ> bought or brought 04:16 < aestetix> brought 04:16 < aestetix> well both 04:16 < aestetix> I let it expire and forgot about it 04:16 < aestetix> but I still had the site laying around 04:17 <@Dagmar> Ah so *that's* why it looks like a cobweb 04:17 < aestetix> lol 04:17 < aestetix> thanks 04:17 < aestetix> sorry it's not using bootstrap 04:17 <@Dagmar> Mmm... cheddar and broccoli rice 04:18 < RangerZ> to be honest, its more usable than most new sites 04:18 < aestetix> I have a few other prank ideas that I just haven't had time to create 04:18 < RangerZ> i _fucking hate_ blogs with a giant ass pic on the entire top 900px of the page 04:18 < aestetix> like CNN? 04:19 < RangerZ> thats at least an "above the fold" news story 04:19 < RangerZ> i mean blogs where you have to hit page down to see 'text' 04:21 < RangerZ> wordpress in particular is awefully guilty of this 04:21 < RangerZ> but anyways... 9am meeting :/ 04:21 < RangerZ> night 04:24 < aestetix> RangerZ: cocaine 04:25 <@Dagmar> This stuff's actually better when you cook it properly 04:25 <@Dagmar> I've gotten used to going "Oh yeah... 12 minutes. Suuuuuure.", putting it in for 14, and then a few minutes more at a time until it looked done 04:28 < RangerZ> brown rice? 04:28 < RangerZ> or non-minute white rice? 04:28 <@Dagmar> Synthetic long-grain rice 04:29 < RangerZ> aestetix: I'm alrady on a cousin of it 04:29 < RangerZ> lol 04:29 <@Dagmar> "RiceSides". Cheddar & Broccoli 04:29 < RangerZ> or at least that is how CVS treats me when I go in... lol 04:30 < aestetix> you know it's fucked up 04:30 < RangerZ> I love rice/cheddar/broccoli, but never cared for them together, lol 04:30 < aestetix> the situation has gotten so much worse since the first time I created xycombinator 04:31 < RangerZ> no it hasn't 04:31 < aestetix> yes it has 04:31 < RangerZ> the people making money from outrage have made lots of money for themselves 04:31 < aestetix> well in the bay at least 04:31 < RangerZ> MUCH BETTER 04:31 < aestetix> lol 05:44 < aestetix> ok mayve RangerZ and Dagmar can explain this 05:44 < aestetix> why does anyone like PewDiePie? 05:45 <@Dagmar> Yeah why don't you ask for something easy, like an infinite power source that also pops popcorn. 05:45 < aestetix> I'm watching one of his videos and I don't understand it 05:46 <@Dagmar> Now that I can explain: He hardly ever says 'penis'. 05:46 < aestetix> haha 05:46 < aestetix> actually he does 07:43 <@Dagmar> fucking java 07:46 <@Dagmar> int can be null 07:46 <@Dagmar> or rather int can't be null 07:46 <@Dagmar> ...but Integer can... 07:46 <@Dagmar> ...but there's no doing anything simply with Integer apparently. 08:12 < RangerZ> Dagmar: because Integer is the Object based representation of int. 'int' is a primitive and is 32bit signed integer, Integer is the "helper class" which allows you to do things like Integer.valueOf(""); 08:14 <@Dagmar> Yeah I know that 08:14 < RangerZ> the binder-framework (which is how InterProcess Communication (via service calls, Intent's Bundles, etc) allows you to pass primitives, but not objects 08:14 <@Dagmar> That still doesn't change the fact that nothing with Integer is simple 08:14 < RangerZ> nope, b/c Integer isn't meant to be used 08:14 <@Dagmar> ...making it non-trivial to do simple null checks 08:14 <@Dagmar> ..like the _cool_ languages have. ;) 08:14 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck me 08:15 <@Dagmar> Fucking 9-patch files _require_ scalable region markers for both axes? 08:15 <@Dagmar> @#$!@#$ 08:15 < PigBot`> Dagmar: Error: "#$!@#$" is not a valid command. 08:15 < RangerZ> hehe 08:15 <@Dagmar> OKay so now I gotta go add a single black dot to like 20 files 08:15 <@Dagmar> ~330 image files in total 08:16 <@Dagmar> I'm almost to the point where I can install a minimalist version of the thing on my phone 08:17 <@Dagmar> I hit one bit of fun that I just carefully stepped around by renaming some things 08:17 <@Dagmar> Like, the first image in the layout for the hours _was_ called 'hour1'. 08:17 <@Dagmar> ...and then I defined a variable named 'hour1' to hold the digit itself 08:18 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm sitting there looking at R.id.hour1 going... "No... I think this will be spectacularly bad." 08:18 <@Dagmar> I'll have to look up whether that is safe later, but somehow I think it won't be 08:19 <@Dagmar> That imageview object is now called 'hourspot1' 08:30 <@Dagmar> I'll be damned. It compiled. 08:31 <@Dagmar> By the way, Niantic will have their fancy van here next Friday from 7-9pm. We don't know where at yet 08:31 <@Dagmar> The "NL1331" mobile portal 08:32 <@Dagmar> I'm going to try to see if we can maybe be the one city that doesn't act like a bunch of savages about getting unique caps 08:33 <@Dagmar> Cuz usually there's like 50-100 people standing there firing off bursters like mad trying desperately to be the person to get the first reso on 08:33 <@Dagmar> I figure instead of being lunatics, we can probably just form two lines, have one person direct, and swap that fucker back and forth every 20 seconds 08:33 <@Dagmar> THEN ON TO TEH DRINKING 08:34 < RangerZ> lol 08:34 <@Dagmar> Some people here have been planning to go to Chattannoga for it on Thursday 08:34 <@Dagmar> I have no idea what they're thinking 08:34 <@Dagmar> Wait 24 hours and it'll come to you 08:35 <@Dagmar> Getcher novelty key 08:35 <@Dagmar> OKay. Let's see if this thing even displays on the phone 08:35 <@Dagmar> The last time I tried a RelativeView on a Widget I had epic problems 08:36 < RangerZ> "The /res/ directory has a hard limit of 256 files, to prevent people from over using many simple resource files. This has existed since API 4." 08:36 <@Dagmar> Fuck me 08:36 <@Dagmar> No that has to be wrong 08:37 < RangerZ> OR.... i just made that up right now and put quotes around it ;) 08:37 < RangerZ> lol 08:37 <@Dagmar> You bastard 08:37 <@Dagmar> lol 08:37 <@Bahhumbug> Heh 08:37 < RangerZ> hehehe 08:37 <@Dagmar> I'm over here going "FUCK. 336 files!" 08:39 <@Dagmar> I also just stumbled across an answer to a problem I had last night... which in retrospect should have been obvious 08:39 <@Dagmar> How to center a _group_ of images 08:39 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@24.148.174.17] has joined #se2600 08:39 <@Dagmar> tewtelly didn't think you could put one layout inside another. lol 08:46 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/purty.jpg 08:46 <@Dagmar> Clearly I knackered something up, but I need some sleep. 08:46 < RangerZ> your DNS still hates you apparently 08:46 <@Dagmar> Maybe I can't type 08:46 <@Dagmar> Nah it resolves 08:47 < RangerZ> its png 08:47 <@Dagmar> I just need to learn the difference between png and jpg 08:47 < RangerZ> thats why 08:47 <@Dagmar> TOO MUCH IMAGE EDITING 08:48 < RangerZ> but yeah 08:48 < RangerZ> it looks good 08:49 <@Dagmar> WHen I do the local/public release announcement, i'm going to pull a fast one on the smurfs 08:50 <@Dagmar> I'm going to "accidentally" forget to remove my calendar from the screen 08:51 <@Dagmar> I want to send them deep, deep into banjo country late at night 08:51 <@Dagmar> You know those fuckers will fall for it 08:51 < RangerZ> lol 08:52 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug could use some fun and excitement 08:52 < RangerZ> (or you thinking more smokies?) 08:52 < RangerZ> lol 08:57 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsHpNiz-4M well THIS is probably what Civ 5-space-mod Beyond Earth should have been 08:57 < PigBot`> Title: Sid Meiers Starships - Announcement Trailer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 08:59 <@Dagmar> Okay. Figured it out. 08:59 <@Dagmar> Perhaps I shouldn't have bound the baselines of the digit images together if I was going to replace one with a 1x1 pixel spaceholder 09:00 <@Bahhumbug> You gotta love people that come into a support channel with a nick of "linux-ninja". 09:03 < Synx|hm> morning 09:04 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Who says? 09:08 < Synx|hm> i used to play the origional civilization 09:09 < Synx|hm> there was some bug or something wrong with the disk my uncle had though because we'd get so far and it'd crash the box 09:18 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:42 <@Dagmar> @#$! 09:42 < PigBot`> Dagmar: Error: "#$!" is not a valid command. 09:42 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to redo these digits all over again 09:43 <@Dagmar> There 09:44 <@Dagmar> There's just no way these numbers will ever look right while they're still different heights 09:45 <@oddball> Awww... how cute... girl on facebook thinks she's in the IT industry because she sells custom builds at Microcenter. 09:46 <@Dagmar> Ask what it's like at the bottom of the food pyramid. 09:46 <@oddball> heh 09:48 <@oddball> "oh... your experience in the tech industry? And that would be what, exactly? Oh.... your retail job." 10:05 < Synx|hm> ha 10:14 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Retail people are so fun to troll. 10:19 < Synx|hm> what a way to kick off a monday, we fired our amex travel agent and are now getting trainined on a completely new travel/expense system that is going to add hours to my trip expense completion 10:32 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 10:42 < Synx|hm> holy shit the trainier just made a ref to making a pot of spagetti in ref to completing an expense report (you have to take the ingredients [receipts] and drag and drop them into your pot [report]) amazing my day is complete 10:43 < Synx|hm> seriously though this person is a really good trainer, very good cadance, varied tone, very fluid 11:09 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: nice 11:09 < RangerZ> where is your spaghetti? 11:09 < RangerZ> and more importantly, OURs? 11:11 <@Mirage> Just git hit up by an old coworker at VU about a bunch of linux positions opening up due to the VU/VUMC split in progress....if anyone's interested. 11:12 < RangerZ> Mirage: haha, really? 11:12 < RangerZ> I wasn't aware they were splitting it (back?) apart 11:12 <@Mirage> What I was asked about would be a Linux App admin working for Ed Wisdom 11:12 <@Mirage> It was in the news 2-3 months ago. 11:13 <@Mirage> RangerZ: Hell, I'm in Dallas and I knew about it.. What rock do you hide under to have missed it? 11:13 < RangerZ> << doesn't really pay attention 11:14 < RangerZ> I've had my own -crap- to deal with 11:14 < RangerZ> I had to work my way up to a -dean- to register for courses this semester, because their reg system was F'd up and glitched it so that I couldn't register 11:16 < RangerZ> them: "what do you mean, that doesn't happen" me: "apparently it does...." 11:19 < RangerZ> https://vanderbilt.taleo.net/careersection/.vu_cs/jobdetail.ftl?job=1411933 , 1414247, 1411025 are also-relevant jobs 11:19 < PigBot`> Title: Search Jobs | Work at Vanderbilt | Vanderbilt University (at vanderbilt.taleo.net) 11:19 < RangerZ> https://vanderbilt.taleo.net/careersection/.vu_cs/jobdetail.ftl?job=1410963 11:19 < PigBot`> Title: Search Jobs | Work at Vanderbilt | Vanderbilt University (at vanderbilt.taleo.net) 11:20 < RangerZ> actual linus sys admin pos 11:20 < RangerZ> ( choice of acronym on purpose -_- ) 11:26 < Synx|hm> Mirage: i am interested, this a dallas only position? 11:26 < Synx|hm> oh disregard im an idiot 11:45 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: perhaps the links I provided? lol 11:46 < Synx|hm> ya i wasn't keeping up with the chat log ;) doing too many things at once 11:47 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 12:26 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Off into this... Real world place...] 12:31 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:08 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 13:44 < RangerZ> http://reverbpress.com/politics/thats-interesting-sends-ny-gop-pol-rabid-f-word-frenzy/ HAHAHA 13:44 < PigBot`> Title: Thats Interesting Sends GOP Pol Into Rabid F-Word Frenzy (at reverbpress.com) 13:45 < RangerZ> along with ... D-bag , a-wipe 13:46 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@173-12-231-201-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 14:03 < RangerZ> i'm fine with a politican swearing and what not 14:03 < RangerZ> as long as they didn't run on 'family valus' and are being hypocritcal 14:03 < RangerZ> values* 14:14 <@Bahhumbug> It's amusing. I was the one that originally mentioned the split here and was received by a chorus of "Nope. That's not going to happen." 14:17 < RangerZ> http://nerdreactor.com/2015/01/19/kristen-stewart-marvel-film/ 14:17 < PigBot`> Title: Kristen Stewart wants to be in a Marvel film - Nerd Reactor (at nerdreactor.com) 14:17 < RangerZ> no 14:17 < RangerZ> no 14:17 < RangerZ> no 14:17 < RangerZ> unless she dies without ever speaking 14:17 < RangerZ> maybe 14:17 < RangerZ> lol 14:23 <@Mirage> I just love it when people talk about something new that isn't: http://nerdreactor.com/2015/01/14/marvels-star-wars-1-available/ 14:24 <@Mirage> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_%28comics%29#Marvel_.281977_.E2.80.93_87.29 14:24 < PigBot`> Title: Star Wars (comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 14:24 < RangerZ> Mirage: but they -did- just release a NEW #1 didn't they? 14:25 < RangerZ> or is it just a reprting of the 80s version? 14:28 <@Mirage> They're starting up again...not reprints. Still, I didn't see anything about the fact that they are _again_ doing a Star Wars title vs it being a completely new to Marvel thing 14:35 < RangerZ> 'ehh', if they are making -new- comics, I don't see WHY they have to mention the old things 14:35 < RangerZ> especially since they aren't cannon anymore 14:35 < RangerZ> (sadly) 14:42 <@Mirage> The old 70's-80's comics weren't all that "cannon" either, really. 14:51 < RangerZ> saddest part is, the best story in the books IMHO was the bounty hunter wars, which wasn't even cannon in the books 14:52 <@Evilpig> Mirage: speaking of old stuff.. I just added several movies in 1080 that fit that description. all fuel for the picard / kirk debate. ;) 14:52 <@Mirage> in that other place you put stuff? 14:52 <@Evilpig> yup 14:53 <@Evilpig> plex is processing for thumbnails now 14:53 <@Mirage> just finished re-encoding shameless. 14:54 <@Evilpig> also added wall-e and oldboy 14:54 <@Mirage> Spent a good bit of the weekend re-encoding Dexter. 14:54 <@Mirage> 26-28G per Season is a bit excessive... 14:54 <@Evilpig> you should see the STNG seasons... 14:54 <@Evilpig> they're like 80 but they are the remastered ones 14:56 <@Mirage> I don't think I need those. It normally takes < 1 min watching any episode for me to know which one it is. 14:56 <@Evilpig> wellyou know me and having shit available 14:57 <@Mirage> RangerZ: KS's part in this one was OK. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337692/ 14:57 < PigBot`> Title: On the Road (2012) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 14:58 < RangerZ> I just want her to prove herself in a role similar to the one she wants to play, not have her shoehorned in no matter the skill, because of who she is, and the potential to get twilight fans interested 15:02 <@Mirage> It's not like she's the first actor/actress to be cornered into playing pretty much the same role in multiple films. Look at Marky Mark (Mark Walberg). His first few films were like that. 15:05 <@Mirage> Megan Fox, IMO, has had the chance to "break the mold" and don't a spectacularly shitty job of it. 15:05 <@Mirage> s/don't/done/g 15:05 * RangerZ nods in agreement 15:06 <@Mirage> Courney Cox also comes to mind as (used to be) nice to look at, but not more than a mediocre actress 15:07 < RangerZ> Transformers 1 & 2 at least were 'interesting' and she wasn't -painfully- bad in them... but TMNT hurt 15:08 < RangerZ> Cox in particular I think does fine on TV shows 15:08 < RangerZ> just not in movies 15:08 < RangerZ> I don't think she has much 'pressence', and can't portray her character well in a short amount of time 15:09 < RangerZ> which is why she transitioned to TV from movies 15:18 < aestetix> ok I gotta say 15:18 < aestetix> any company forcing their employees to work today (without time and a half) is evil 15:18 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:18 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Log closed Mon Jan 19 15:18:07 2015 --- Log opened Mon Jan 19 15:18:18 2015 15:18 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@47.23.76.130] has joined #se2600 15:18 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 43 nicks [16 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 15:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 15:18 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 12 secs 15:31 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@c-68-52-38-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:34 -!- Synx|hm is now known as Guest87519 15:36 -!- Guest87519 [~Synx@c-68-52-38-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:36 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 15:36 < Synx|hm_> oh happy day 15:40 <@Evilpig> that penile extension you ordered finally came in? 15:40 < Synx|hm_> ding we have a winner 15:42 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: Wah. Get over it. It's a federal / bank holiday that the overwhelming majority of other sectors don't give a shit about nor ever will. 15:45 <@Bahhumbug> WRT Kristen Stewart. She's a simply horrible and emotionless "actress" that should be flipping burgers at McDs. I would prefer her to stay as far away as possible from anything I watch or plan to watch. 16:00 <@Dickie> Won't stop me from giving her the business, though. 16:01 <@Dickie> Countless other variables will. 16:23 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@173-12-231-201-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08 <@Bahhumbug> I might, just maybe, not find her so fucking hideous if she would smile once in a while. 18:00 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:10 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:12 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@24.148.174.17] has left #se2600 [] 18:13 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: I am not affected by it. 18:20 < RangerZ> social norms? 18:20 < RangerZ> raid bug spray? 18:20 < RangerZ> empathy? 18:26 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:49 -!- ladymerlin [ladymerlin@67.53.153.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49 -!- ladymerlin [ladymerlin@mail.bbis.us] has joined #se2600 18:54 < aestetix> RangerZ: hubris 18:54 <@Dagmar> Wow 18:55 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: My guess would have been restraining orders. 18:55 <@Dagmar> How gullible does RockStar think we are? 18:55 <@Dagmar> They're offering extra in-game money if you pre-purchase GTAV for PC. 18:55 <@Dagmar> I wanna know... WHERE'S MY HALF MILLION DOLLARS? 19:18 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 19:36 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 19:45 < aestetix> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/doxing-victim-zoe-quinn-launches-online-anti-harassment-task-force/ 19:45 < PigBot`> Title: Doxing victim Zoe Quinn launches online “anti-harassment task force” | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) 19:46 <@Dagmar> No one cares 19:47 <@Dagmar> If it were anyone *but* Quinn, maybe 19:47 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Does that mean she's going to refrain from doxing others too? 19:47 <@Dagmar> Without any legal standing, her "task force" has all the weight of a whining brigade. 19:48 < _NSAKEY> I went straight for the prevention page. So weak. 19:49 < _NSAKEY> Somebody needs to tell them about abine... 19:49 < _NSAKEY> ... But it won't be me. 19:49 < _NSAKEY> There's no sense in me making it easy for potential future deadbeats. 19:53 < Synx|hm> . 19:53 < _NSAKEY> .. 19:54 < Synx|hm> :) laptop doing some really odd sleep shit wasn't sure if i was still here 19:55 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 19:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 19:56 < aestetix> man 19:57 < aestetix> Shanley's twitter stream has turned into... soething else 19:57 <@klixa> who 19:57 < aestetix> twitter.com/shanley 19:57 <@klixa> why are there 2 rabbits in alice in wonderland 19:58 <@klixa> should i know who shanley is 19:58 <@klixa> so far, she just seems like a whiny ass bitch 20:00 < aestetix> klixa: http://valleywag.gawker.com/breitbart-shanley-kane-has-a-colorful-past-1680164696 20:01 <@klixa> so shes well known causes she dated weev? who i have only heard of in here 20:04 <@klixa> "i've dated men that beat the shit out of me and raped me at knifepoint so honestly some of the ppl you're condemning me for were a step up." yeah, sure you have... and thats why you post it on twitter without blinking an eye and using it as an excuse to be a bitch 20:13 <@Dagmar> So do the right thing. 20:13 <@Dagmar> ...ignore her. 20:15 < aestetix> Dagmar: I want to ignore her, but I also like watching fireworks. 20:15 <@Evilpig> and here I was thinking the right thing was to bury people like her up to their necks and line the highways with them 20:15 < aestetix> no no no 20:15 < aestetix> you bury them up to their necks in the beach 20:15 < aestetix> and wait for the tide to come in 20:15 <@Evilpig> now what kind of example does that set for others? 20:16 < aestetix> To wait until there's a drought to throw temper tantrums? 20:23 <@Bahhumbug> klixa: +1000000000000000 on the whiny ass bitch comment. 20:25 < aestetix> oh christ 20:25 < aestetix> http://www.iamit.org/blog/2015/01/sensationalism-doing-more-damage-than-good/ 20:25 < aestetix> this just happened at shmoocon 20:29 <@Dagmar> Good. 20:29 <@Dagmar> It's a start 20:29 <@Dagmar> ...although I think they're overlooking the obvious gap in the aggressor's logic. 20:30 <@Dagmar> It's simply _assumed_ that when someone makes the accusation that something is sexist, that it _is_ sexist. 20:30 <@Dagmar> ...and the definition of "sexist" in play appears to be "acknowledges that there are differences between the genders". 20:30 <@Dagmar> Like holy shit... there's a difference between genders? 20:30 <@Dagmar> I thought everyone had a penis! 20:31 <@Dagmar> This isn't fuckin' rocket science. 20:31 <@Dagmar> By the standard commonly being used, a talk on pregnancy is sexist. 20:31 <@Dagmar> Using a discount on shoes to goad a target _isn't sexist_ it's _cultural_. 20:32 <@Dagmar> That's fashion _culture_, not a physiological difference 20:32 <@Dagmar> It's also the common case, and utterly reasonable. 20:32 <@Dagmar> It's like offering a discount on food to people who eat. 20:33 <@klixa> i dont like shoes 20:34 <@Dagmar> Apparently offering free hot cocoa in the winter is also "climatist" 20:34 <@Dagmar> I don't see anyone complainign about that. 20:34 <@Dagmar> ...because they're not _assholes_ 20:35 <@Dagmar> The gap in their logic is goddamn blisteringly obvious. 20:35 <@Dagmar> "@avirette: So there was a talk at #shmoocon that was unnecessarily sexist (& gross really). I spoke out about it. People thanked me for doing so." 20:35 <@Dagmar> "@avirette: People told me in person, in DM. The speaker(s) denied it was sexist rather than owning it and apologising." 20:36 <@klixa> the problem is people suck... and tend to follow others easily 20:36 <@Dagmar> There is *no* effort being made to ensure the speech was actually sexist. 20:36 <@Dagmar> She declares it to be so, and so it is. 20:36 <@klixa> like the Seth twitter comment all over facebook atm 20:36 <@Dagmar> That other people also made this decision _without justification_ does not in fact support the argument 20:36 <@klixa> Seth Rogan said some sniper movie reminded him of the movie playing in INglorious Bastards...and suddenly people are acting as tho hes the scum of the earth 20:36 <@Dagmar> This is literally a complex question fallacy 20:37 <@Dagmar> ...but this person is angry because the speaker denied it. 20:37 <@Dagmar> Perhaps because it's an _unjustified accusation_. 20:38 <@klixa> Dagmar: did this person even list WHY it was sexist? 20:38 <@Dagmar> i say we start demanding people explain exactly and precisely why something is "sexist" because it will highlight the fact that these assholes are working with a _wildly_ variant definition of the word. 20:38 <@Dagmar> klixa: NOPE 20:38 <@klixa> because it seems like people slap labels on things without taing the effort to show evidence these days 20:38 <@Dagmar> That's exactly what's going on 20:38 <@Dagmar> Statistically, more women are going to go for a discount on personal decoration. 20:38 <@Dagmar> Period. End of statement. 20:38 <@Dagmar> It's entirely factual. 20:38 <@Dagmar> It's not sexist. 20:38 <@klixa> I hate that. They rob everyone of forming their own oppinion to the actual facts... tho, people really should be looking into stuff and not taking people's words for it anyway 20:39 <@Dagmar> klixa: Always look for the implied "It's offensive. Trust me. You don't have to look for yourself." 20:39 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:39 <@Dagmar> That's generally a sign someone's making shit up 20:40 < aestetix> How is that sexist? 20:40 <@Dagmar> ...occasionally it will even be a _literal_ "You don't have to look for yourself" 20:40 <@Dagmar> aestetix: It's not 20:40 <@Dagmar> It's absolutely not sexist 20:40 <@Dagmar> There's a difference between what's gender-based, and what's culture-based. 20:41 <@klixa> i dont want to be treated like a man anyway... i dont see how catering to a woman is sexist... i dont like shoes...but i do tend to like most of the other stuff women like 20:44 < aestetix> So if I understand correctly, some researchers gave a talk, and some of the statistical evidence they presented offended someone? 20:49 <@Dagmar> Well, it wasn't statistical evidence, it was tactics used that were selected based on likely takers 20:49 <@Dagmar> ...which is generally pretty statistical in nature 20:49 <@Dagmar> If they'd been looking to attract black people and used watermelon, that would be racist. 20:50 < aestetix> haha 20:50 <@Dagmar> If they'd been looking to attract black people and used rap music CDs, that would not necessarily be racist because rap is more popular amongst black people than white people. 20:50 <@klixa> i like watermelon 20:51 <@Dagmar> If they'd used _discounts on books on feminism_ this woman would have _still_ called it sexist. 20:56 < aestetix> klixa: do you have any black people in your family? 20:56 <@Dagmar> I dropped a subtle hint to PresMike on FB 20:57 <@klixa> aestetix: i must, since thats the only explanation for me liking watermelon 21:00 < aestetix> klixa: what about fried chicken? 21:00 <@klixa> rarely 21:01 < aestetix> do you like bling? 21:01 <@klixa> no 21:01 < aestetix> hair extensions? 21:02 <@klixa> no 21:04 < aestetix> Do you have big rims on your car? 21:05 <@klixa> no 21:05 < aestetix> Ok, you're probably just a genetic fluke then 21:05 <@klixa> lol 21:09 < aestetix> Here's an example of a sexist statement: "If you want to learn computer programming, grow a penis." 21:09 <@klixa> it would help tho 21:10 <@klixa> well, you wouldnt need a penis, just balls/tetsosterone 21:10 <@klixa> there are exceptions, but men's brains, becaise of the influence of testosterone, are better at the skills used in programming 21:12 <@Bahhumbug> Say what now? 21:13 <@klixa> testosterone affects the brain difefrently than estrogen, is what im saying 21:28 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 21:47 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has joined #se2600 22:13 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:28 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 22:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 22:32 <@klixa> ok, some perosn online threatened to kill my kids...its some troll...i doubt they are serious...but it got me wondering, is there anything you can do about such things? 22:32 < aestetix> Oh jesus. 22:33 < aestetix> Now some people are calling for conferences to screen the contents of slides before speakers give talks 22:33 <@Dagmar> Yep. You can ignore them. 22:33 < aestetix> klixa: did they volunteer personal information? Like threaten your kid by name? 22:33 <@klixa> aestetix: no, no personal info 22:33 <@Dagmar> aestetix: If they do that then we get to screen the complaints of from the special snowflake committee before they're allowed to complain 22:33 < aestetix> oh ok 22:34 < aestetix> klixa: then it's best to ignore 22:34 <@Dagmar> klixa: Depending on the severity of the threat, the police could arrest them 22:34 <@Dagmar> ...but it sounds like there's not much severity involved. 22:34 < aestetix> If they name your kid and your home address, then call the police. 22:34 <@Dagmar> Yep. 22:34 <@Dagmar> If there are signs they're doing more than just talking shit, feel free to send the police after them. 22:35 <@klixa> they are mostly just trolling, but they have been harassing a friend of mine for liek 2 years onine 22:36 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Conferences don't already do that to some extent? 22:36 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: yes. It's called "I don't know who this guy is, lemme see what he's done in the past" 22:36 < aestetix> Or "I know who this guy is, this will be a good talk" 22:37 <@Bahhumbug> You seem surprised by this, aestetix. Seems like the next logical move to me in this great Politically Correct climate we live in. 22:38 < aestetix> God I hate political correctness. 22:38 <@Dagmar> Okay so this is kinda _wrong_ but I'm going to say it anyway 22:39 <@Dagmar> The Springfield Elementary school principal who was killed in the hillbilly shootout... 22:39 <@Dagmar> ...they're holding a _vigil_ for her. 22:39 <@Dagmar> Do they expect she will rise from the grave? 22:39 < RangerZ> aestetix: I'd love to give a talk at a conf. that screened my slides 22:40 -!- dfused2 [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has joined #se2600 22:40 < RangerZ> ohh look only 4 slides, Title, outline, Refrences, and a "thank you, any questions?" 22:40 < RangerZ> hehe 22:40 -!- dfused [~dfused@64.203.232.38.dyn-cm-pool-36.pool.hargray.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:40 < RangerZ> aestetix: political correctness -in and of itself- isn't bad 22:41 < RangerZ> its an issue when taken too far 22:41 < _NSAKEY> I wonder how someone screening the slides I've been working on would react to them. 22:41 < _NSAKEY> "Oh, just a bunch of numbers. I don't care. Let it through." 22:41 <@Dagmar> libcaca to the rescue! 22:41 < aestetix> RangerZ: when isn't it take too far? 22:42 <@Dagmar> No, political correctness is always bad. 22:42 < RangerZ> when "cis" was decided to be used 22:42 < RangerZ> lol 22:42 <@Dagmar> It's a separate thing from "courtesy", "politeness", and "respect for others". 22:43 -!- dfused2 is now known as dfused 22:43 <@Dagmar> Basically, poltiical correctness is _always_ used for bullying. 22:43 < RangerZ> (joking), but seriously... being P.C. 'can' be important, such as when I was growing up "retarded" _was_ the politically correct term and then some point in middle school it shifted to NOT being ok, and I can understand why people don't want called something that was turned INTO something derogatory 22:44 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#Early-to-mid_20th_century 22:44 < PigBot`> Title: Political correctness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 22:44 <@Dagmar> It *does* mean adherence to political party principles. 22:44 < aestetix> Dagmar: did PC come from second wave feminists? 22:44 < aestetix> the anti-sex ones? 22:45 <@Dagmar> Read the link 22:45 <@Dagmar> It's almost never used for anything but bullying others. 22:45 <@klixa> i call it mind control 22:46 <@klixa> "[20:07:14] but anyway, people will get so hung up on the word choice and miss the entire meesage. It's all about control. They want to control how we htink about things by choosing the words we use. For instance, teh word terrorist. It doesn;t really mean anything...its like calling someone a bitch. It's all perspective. One person's freedom fighter is another person;s terorst" 22:46 <@Dagmar> Well, "terrorist" does have a meaning. 22:46 < RangerZ> languages (especially English) change, and using the 'right' term, isn't a 'big deal', etc. isn't a big deal 22:46 <@klixa> its suposed to, its misused 22:46 < aestetix> one who creates terror? 22:46 <@Dagmar> ...just at the moment certain aspects of our government seem to think it means "anyone who disagrees with us". 22:47 <@Dagmar> Refuse to tolerate anyone referring to protestors or people who are different-minded politically as "terrorists". 22:47 < RangerZ> terorrist/etc DOES have a meaning 22:47 < RangerZ> legally and via the dictionary 22:47 <@klixa> its misused tho 22:47 <@Dagmar> ..and it's what aestetix said. 22:47 <@Dagmar> ...even though it seems like he was just being snarky. 22:47 <@klixa> well, pick a different example then 22:47 < RangerZ> but, legally != dictionary, legally = anyone who doesn't agree with us, lol 22:48 <@klixa> i mean retarded has a meaning but now its bad to say 22:48 <@Dagmar> Theres' nothing illegal about protesting. 22:48 <@klixa> calling someone retarded is offensive 22:48 <@Dagmar> ...but the gov't has foolishly let us know they considered protestors "low-level terrorism" 22:48 < RangerZ> Dagmar: BS, 'free speech zones' 22:48 <@klixa> despite it meaning "less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age." 22:48 <@Dagmar> I don't aim to inspire terror in my enemies. 22:48 <@Dagmar> I am to inspire _despair_. 22:49 < aestetix> I wasn't being snarky. 22:49 <@Dagmar> Okay 22:49 <@klixa> iview PC as when they take any word and change what it means 22:49 < aestetix> no 22:49 <@klixa> ie. retarded suddenly is bad 22:49 < aestetix> PC bans words and creates a fisher price pillow version of it 22:50 <@klixa> gotta say mentally handicapped...or cant say black gotta say african american 22:50 <@Dagmar> I can say black. 22:50 <@Dagmar> I intend to continue to say black. 22:50 < aestetix> Because all black people are from Africa? 22:50 < aestetix> And all Africans are black? 22:50 <@Dagmar> aestetix++ 22:50 < RangerZ> PC is the conservative term for them being afraid of not being allowed to be racists/etc -in public- 22:50 <@Bahhumbug> "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, 22:50 <@Bahhumbug> liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which 22:50 <@Bahhumbug> holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by 22:50 <@Bahhumbug> the clean end." 22:50 < aestetix> I'm pretty sure Egypt and South Africa have a non-black population 22:50 <@Dagmar> They're not dual-citizenship. 22:50 <@Dagmar> They're "americans". 22:50 <@Dagmar> ...not "african americans" 22:51 <@klixa> the term african american is retarded 22:51 <@Dagmar> Just because I might decide to call myself a "Lampshade-couchian" doesn't mean I am a combination of lampshade and couch. 22:51 < aestetix> you mean it's mentally challenged 22:51 <@klixa> aestetix: yes, thanks 22:51 <@Dagmar> Negroid, caucasoid, mongoloid. <-- these are actual "racial" identifiers. 22:52 < aestetix> niglet, tarbaby, darkie, etc 22:52 <@Dagmar> Those are slang pejoratives 22:52 < aestetix> oh I see what you mean. 22:52 < RangerZ> Dr. Grammar is on duty ;) 22:52 <@Dagmar> ...although 'darkie' is fairly low on the scale. 22:52 < aestetix> and porchmonkey 22:53 <@Dagmar> NOT RACIST 22:53 <@Dagmar> I swear I'm going to bitch slap those guys one day 22:53 <@Dagmar> The joke is so goddamn meta no one gets it 22:53 <@Dagmar> porchmonkey isn't racist. 22:53 < aestetix> I think my favorite ethnicity is blaxican 22:53 < aestetix> if your parents are black and mexican 22:53 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I have to admit it _sounds_ cool 22:56 < aestetix> hmmm 22:56 < aestetix> apparently upgrading from iOS7 to iOS8 can make your ipad slower 22:56 < aestetix> due to leftover cruft 22:56 < RangerZ> aestetix: yep, b/c it uses more ram 22:56 < aestetix> hmm 22:56 < aestetix> is there any way to go back to iOS7? 22:56 < RangerZ> aestetix: OS advancement always do that 22:57 < RangerZ> and if you DO have ram, then there isn't any issue 22:57 < RangerZ> android is perfect example 22:57 < aestetix> I have an ipad 2 22:57 < RangerZ> aestetix: I'm sorry? 22:57 < RangerZ> lol 22:57 < aestetix> what 22:57 < aestetix> it works 22:57 < RangerZ> I hate itunes 22:57 < RangerZ> and you have to use it with iCrap 22:58 < RangerZ> but anyways... 22:58 < RangerZ> thats why I'm looking forward to the 200$ android phone with 4GB of ram coming out 22:58 < RangerZ> b/c it should be able to handle Android 5.0 ++++ for a while 22:59 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Never underestimate the upgrade treadmill's ability to add bloat. 22:59 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: I'm not, I'm just being 'hopeful' 22:59 < RangerZ> I know... its out of character 22:59 < RangerZ> but ehh 22:59 < RangerZ> lol 23:11 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:12 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:12 < aestetix> wow 23:12 < aestetix> this is not really relevant, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2zT4Y-sCa8 23:12 < PigBot`> Title: Shanley Kane (Basho) - Scaling Product "Management" at Monkigras 2013 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 23:12 < aestetix> her voice is fucking annoying 23:13 < RangerZ> aestetix: 'ehh' 23:13 < RangerZ> not really to me 23:14 < aestetix> It's really nasal and full of uptalk 23:14 < RangerZ> yeah, and 'tone' doesn't bother me 23:15 < aestetix> She sounds like The Nanny 23:15 < RangerZ> no 23:15 < RangerZ> not nearly 23:15 < aestetix> And somewhat whiney 23:15 < aestetix> I just hate uptalk in general 23:16 < RangerZ> also, the mic work on that video sucks, and you can tell 23:16 < RangerZ> which is probably why it bothers me less 23:16 < aestetix> ahhh 23:16 < RangerZ> she does uptalk a little (i mean % of uptalk) not frequency 23:16 < RangerZ> and 'ehh' 23:17 < RangerZ> sit in a fucking meeting with turks/indians/chinese all day 23:17 < RangerZ> where i'm betting the indians to talk to more 23:17 < RangerZ> begging* 23:22 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 23:22 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 23:27 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:27 < aestetix> I wonder if there is such a thing as "penis breath" 23:30 < RangerZ> go ask that down at the armory 23:31 < RangerZ> but NOT in this channel 23:31 < RangerZ> lol 23:31 <@Dagmar> They'll offer you a mint. 23:31 < RangerZ> aestetix: do -really- not understand that we don't want you to talk about that shit? or are you purposely doing it to be seen as immature, and dredge upon society? 23:31 < RangerZ> I ask b/c I care 23:32 < RangerZ> ;) 23:36 < RangerZ> ohh thats right... they celebrate ... Robert E. Lee day in Al, MS, AR... b/c they celebrate 'that' the same day as MLK ... 23:46 <@Evilpig> http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_super/1/12147/1642123-squidbillies.jpg 23:53 < dfused> "hands off the trim!" 23:58 < RangerZ> https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/ 23:58 < PigBot`> Title: The Hobbit: The Tolkien Edit | Peter Jacksons Hobbit trilogy recut into a single 4-hour film (at tolkieneditor.wordpress.com) 23:58 < RangerZ> I would probably watch that.... 23:59 < aestetix> It's scary that the 4 hour movie is the abridged version --- Log closed Tue Jan 20 00:00:11 2015