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04:44 < RangerZ> anyone an audiophile here?
06:45 < RangerZ> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/13/aetna-ceo-piketty-worker-raises_n_6462540.html
06:45 < PigBot`> Title: Aetna CEO Asked Execs To Read Piketty, Then Gave His Lowest-Paid Workers A Raise (at www.huffingtonpost.com)
06:45 < RangerZ> because SOMEONE needs some good news
06:45 < RangerZ> 32k/year isn't even that much...
06:46 < RangerZ> but whatever... at this point... its at least an acceptible 'starter' wage...
06:48 < aestetix> huh
06:48 < aestetix> Maybe they could change their policies next.
06:48 < aestetix> Because Aetna is fucking diabolic.
06:51 < RangerZ> nope
06:51 < RangerZ> its fucking aestetix
06:51 < RangerZ> hard
06:51 < RangerZ> with no lube
06:51 < RangerZ> ;)
06:51 < RangerZ> and no flowers afterwards
06:52  * RangerZ guessed, but its probably not a bad one
06:53 < aestetix> well that too
06:54 < RangerZ> lol
06:54 < RangerZ> so... fuck audio gear... its expensive... lol
06:54 < RangerZ> I thought lighting gear was expensive
06:54 < aestetix> RangerZ: maybe you know: when did telephones become a public utility
06:55 < aestetix> At least I think they are.
06:55 < RangerZ> early
06:55 < aestetix> As in.... can you build a new house without it having a phone line?
06:55 < RangerZ> yes
06:55 < RangerZ> well
06:55 < RangerZ> that depends on 'local' laws
06:56 < RangerZ> there is NO federal laws on that
06:56 < RangerZ> but most states DO require utilities per property
06:56 < aestetix> So basically
06:56 < RangerZ> and phone "TO" to house, is generally required
06:56 < RangerZ> but you don't have to 'use' it
06:56 < aestetix> If we actuallly see movement on net neutrality, that opens the possibility of making Facebook a public utility
06:57 < RangerZ> no
06:57 < aestetix> Well let me rephrase
06:57 < RangerZ> hold on
06:57 < RangerZ> utilities are classified in a special way
06:57 < aestetix> There is no chance of applying any regulations to Facebook until we have net neutrality.
06:57 < aestetix> Because it would be fucking stupid to.
06:57 < RangerZ> i don't agree with that either
06:57 < RangerZ> b/c net neutrality won't cover FB
06:58 < RangerZ> unless FB is delivering data to you FOR OTHERS
06:58 < aestetix> Well it's in the same way we have common carrier
06:58 < aestetix> Requiring telephones in homes is useless if you can't call anyone
06:58 < RangerZ> ohh I get what you are 'saying' I'm just saying you're wrong ;)
06:58 < RangerZ> lol
06:59 < RangerZ> an internet connection is STILL useful without the existence of FB
06:59 < aestetix> Likewise, it's pointless to regular what can be on Facebook if comcast just censors everything
06:59 < aestetix> I agree
06:59 < RangerZ> aestetix: your statement is true, but the 'likewise' is a logical leap
06:59 < RangerZ> FB is an 'end node' NOT 'your end node'
07:00 < aestetix> Hmmm.
07:00 < RangerZ> FB also isn't a peering agent
07:00 < aestetix> Well to be fair, telephones weren't owned by anyone until recently-ish
07:00 < RangerZ> 198.....4 I think
07:00 < aestetix> For decades telephones were something you rented from AT&T
07:00 < RangerZ> maybe late 70s
07:01 < aestetix> So one could say that a facebook account is something you rent from Facebook in exchange for access
07:01 < RangerZ> however 'utilities' provide 'unique' abilities
07:01 < RangerZ> or something along those lines
07:01 < RangerZ> and that might 'only' be Ohio
07:01 < RangerZ> which is still allowed to tax internet connections
07:02 < aestetix> Well, what about companies that are completely dependent on facebook?
07:02 < aestetix> Like any company that makes facebook games
07:02 < RangerZ> b/c the law passed by congress, which grandfathers OH, and TX which had taxes beforehand
07:02 < aestetix> Or a site that only allows you to log in using your FB account
07:02 < RangerZ> aestetix: they are NOT completely dependant upon FB
07:02 < RangerZ> only 85%
07:02 < RangerZ> lol
07:02 < RangerZ> that site doesn't 'have' to do that
07:02 < aestetix> Sure they are. If facebook blocks their access, their data goes away.
07:03 < RangerZ> thats an o-auth choice
07:03 < RangerZ> aestetix: not true, zynga stores the data on their own servers now
07:03 < RangerZ> b/c of that
07:03 < aestetix> heh
07:03 < aestetix> Somehow I don't think tht will save Zynga :p
07:03 < RangerZ> it will
07:03 < RangerZ> b/c 1/2 of "gamers" only play that shit
07:03 < RangerZ> hell I 'did' too
07:04 < RangerZ> but never spent a fucking dime on it
07:04 < RangerZ> my CS prof did too
07:04 < aestetix> basically the challenge is
07:04 < RangerZ> and we had him friended
07:04 < RangerZ> his farmville farm was epic
07:04 < aestetix> I'm speculating on ways to angle breaking through the brick wall facebook has put up
07:04 < RangerZ> he had pi to the 100th digit represented as hay cubes, color coded by the transistor rules
07:05 < RangerZ> along the bottom of his farm
07:05 < RangerZ> LOL
07:05 < RangerZ> aestetix: its NOT a utility, and any effort you waste saying it is, is just that... 'wasted'
07:05 < aestetix> was he a virgin? :p
07:05 < RangerZ> nope, he has 2 kids an wife
07:06 < RangerZ> just crazy, lol
07:06 < RangerZ> and*
07:06 < RangerZ> aestetix: FB is dying off anyways, just give it time, look at the "anonymous" social media sites
07:06  * RangerZ hurt his side laughing so hard
07:07 < RangerZ> lol
07:07 < aestetix> ok I'm crashing
07:07 < aestetix> ttfn
07:07 < RangerZ> but honestly, most new 'tween/teens' don't even have FB accounts
07:07 < aestetix> I have to give a talk tomorrow :/
07:07 < RangerZ> only people 'our' age
07:07 < aestetix> you mean over 22? :p
07:07 < RangerZ> they now have tumblr/instagram
07:08 < RangerZ> aestetix: you're what... 29ish?
07:08 < aestetix> I'm over legal age :)
07:08 < RangerZ> aestetix: don't make me ask sumo and her brother, lol
07:08 < RangerZ> but night
07:09 < RangerZ> same, gonna crash, and then prep my lecture tomorrow :/
07:10 < RangerZ> The California Public Utilities Commission (or CPUC) is a public utilities commission that officially regulates the privately owned electric, natural gas, telecommunications, water, railroad, rail transit, and passenger transportation companies that operate in the state of California.[4]
07:11 < RangerZ> telecomm 'might' count... but FB isn't a 'telecom'
09:45 <@Evilpig> well that was fun
09:45 <@Evilpig> everything here is covered in black ice
09:45 <@Evilpig> stepped on the sidewalk outside that just looked to be wet and nearly busted my ass.
09:46 <@Evilpig> took the truck around the block to see if it was just the sidewalks and nope. 
11:38 < RangerZ> http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/17/obama-drops-saturday-night-bombshell-republicans-tax-plan-targets-rich.html
11:38 < PigBot`> Title: Obama Drops A Saturday Night Bombshell On Republicans With Tax Plan That Targets The Rich (at www.politicususa.com)
11:38 < RangerZ> hahahahahahaha
11:38 < RangerZ> fucking Obama has to have hired a team of 4chan trolls to plan the best ways to fuck the with GOP since the election
11:39 < RangerZ> "lets go back to the rates under St. Reagan"
11:40 < RangerZ> hehehe
11:40 < RangerZ> (the st. part might have not been in the quote... ) -__-
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11:59 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Have you ever noticed that some news outlets simply call him "Mr. Obama" and not "President" very much?
11:59 < RangerZ> no...
12:00 < _NSAKEY> I saw an article a few days ago that did that, and it just called him "the president" without capitalizing. Still not sure if the writer was one of those "He's not MY PRESIDENT" types, or if it was just terrible editing.
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12:04 <@Evilpig> http://torrentfreak.com/eztv-ditches-it-domain-after-italian-intervention-150115/
12:04 < PigBot`> Title: EZTV Ditches .IT Domain After Italian Intervention | TorrentFreak (at torrentfreak.com)
12:05 < _NSAKEY> .ch won't last long either.
12:06 < _NSAKEY> They should have gone with .is if they wanted to have an unpredictable outcome.
12:14 < _NSAKEY> That would be a good test as to whether the "whistleblower" marketing around Iceland is any good. If they'll seize some random tracker's domain, a whistleblowing site might not hold up very well either.
12:26 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: It was just bad grammar.
12:27 <@Dagmar> You can say "a president".  Doesn't need capitalization.  Referring to it as a title, such as "the President" it should follow normal capitalization rules for a title.
12:27 <@Dagmar> Someone probably tried to work ass-backwards from the formal title of "Mister President" and failed
12:28 <@Dagmar> I CAN AT LEAST NOT EMBARRASS MYSELF WHEN TALKING TO DIGNITARIES
12:28 <@Dagmar> Just don't ask me to eat a salad in front of them.
12:28 <@Dagmar> I have a vague idea that the soup spoon is the larger one, but if there's more than one fork on the table I'm fucked.
12:30 < RangerZ> little one is for salad
12:30 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: They specifically used "the president" in the article.
12:30 < RangerZ> large one for stabbing your leg so you don't fall asleep to their boring dribble
12:30 < RangerZ> _NSAKEY: don't blame malice when ignorance can do just the same job
12:30 < RangerZ> lol
12:36 <@Dagmar> goddamn imageviews
12:36 <@Dagmar> I don't know if the renderer is fucking up or not
12:36 <@Dagmar> I've got two pieces.  Together, they should fill the window from side to side
12:36 <@Dagmar> The right side is fixed size and square
12:37 <@Dagmar> The left side is a 9-patch
12:37 <@Dagmar> ...should expand.
12:38 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: It just stood out because the article kept calling him Mr. I think it was some right-wing site, which may have contributed to my initial thought about it being written by one of those "He isn't my president" types.
12:41 <@Dagmar> I suspect the renderer is fucking up because the background and src of the same damn piece aren't laying atop one another properly.
12:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah I hate this renderer
12:48 <@Dagmar> I made this damn png have built in padding for a reason
12:48 <@Dagmar> The renderer is stretching it vertically nayway
12:48 <@Dagmar> @#$@#
12:48 < PigBot`> Dagmar: Error: "#$@#" is not a valid command.
12:50 <@Dagmar> @screw->('yourself');
12:50 < PigBot`> Dagmar: Error: "screw->('yourself');" is not a valid command.
13:12 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: Seriously, I am looking at a bitmap in the renderer where the leftmost pixel column is being shifted down 1 px
13:12 <@Dagmar> No, correction... everything but the leftmost column is being shifted up
13:12 <@Dagmar> Hopefully it won't try to display like this on the phone
13:16 <@Shadow404> @diaf
13:16 < PigBot`> Shadow404: Error: "diaf" is not a valid command.
13:16 <@Dagmar> I just had to switch from LinearLayout to RelativeLayout so I can stack my image pieces properly.
13:18 <@Evilpig> guess it's time for me to try the roads again
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14:48 < RangerZ> Dagmar: android layout is a beast unto itself that is very different than iOS, etc , being "able" to handle vastly different screen resolution/dpi/size/etc makes it a PITA to get 'what you want' sometimes, lol
14:49 <@Dagmar> Yep
14:54 <@Dagmar> I am hoping I'm not about to shoot myself in the foot by planning on being able to tint images
14:59 < RangerZ> thats why my code generator generates literally the worst looking UI you've ever seen
14:59 < RangerZ> b/c it 'works' on all devices
15:00 < RangerZ> gods have mercy on your soul if you try on a TV...
15:00 < RangerZ> but it would be 'functional
15:00 < RangerZ> lol
15:00 <@Dagmar> i'm not even going to worry about htat
15:00 <@Dagmar> I've locked this thing's geometry down pretty hard
15:00 <@Dagmar> 40dp x 110dp OR ELSE
15:00 <@Dagmar> I am, however, expanding into xxxhdpi support now
15:01 < aestetix> wow
15:01 <@Dagmar> I sort of cheated and generated a set of omghdpi images (256x256) and then used imagemagick's convert and a perl script to generate the rest of the frames
15:01 < aestetix> this is the kind of quality discussion sudo room has now
15:01 < aestetix> https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2015-January/008770.html
15:01 < PigBot`> Title: [sudo-discuss] I'm going to pee sitting down at the omni: A call for others to join. (at lists.sudoroom.org)
15:01 <@Dagmar> It only fucked one of them up
15:04 < RangerZ> aestetix: whats wrong with a guy sitting down to pee? i mean... you ARE the guy who talks about penis and anal all the time in a hacker channel
15:05 < RangerZ> so pot <--> kettle
15:05 < RangerZ> lol
15:10 < aestetix> Maybe you should cover this topic in your next class
15:12 < RangerZ> no, I have android debugging, git usage, and how to date weev to become an internet troll
15:12 < RangerZ> lots of material to cover
15:17 < aestetix> no butt play?
15:22 < aestetix> btw
15:22 < aestetix> I'll note that while Shanley has thrown a temper tantrum on twitter, she hasn't actually denied anything.
15:23 <@Evilpig> you should put some effort into uncovering those bdsm pictures she said exist
15:23 < aestetix> I'm sure weev could produce them
15:26 < RangerZ> hopefully a stray syrian missile hits him... (and only him) in lebanon (where apparetnly he is living)
16:43 <@Evilpig> http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/kisekae/index.html#/lineup
16:43 < PigBot`> Title: きせかえプレートで、きせかえちゃお。 (at www.nintendo.co.jp)
16:47 < RangerZ> Evilpig: we aren't getting faceplates
16:47 <@Evilpig> I know and that's shitty
16:47 <@Evilpig> I like some of those designs
16:47 < RangerZ> because the XL doesn't have them, and we aren't getting the new 'regular size' ones with faceplates
16:47 < RangerZ> yeah, I would have probably gotten the smaller one, b/c of easy of carrying
16:48 <@Evilpig> the xl carries just fine, imo
16:48 < RangerZ> b/c its about 90% the size of the XL, which is notiably larger than smaller one
16:48 < RangerZ> but has the faceplates, etc
16:49 < RangerZ> and it has all the key colors that people 'like'
16:50 < RangerZ> like the ex was obsessed with purple... so she could have had purple faceplates
16:52 < RangerZ> honestly, I'm getting just tired of nintendo's crap decisions
16:52 < RangerZ> their hardware are the ONLY MANF that still has region locking
16:52 < RangerZ> I'd just import the japanese unit and buy an american charger... if that wouldn't cause issues
16:52 < RangerZ> amiibos shouldn't be so fucking rare
16:53 < RangerZ> (I just like that they are kinda cool looking figures, and the 'gameplay' stuff is just a nice bonus)
16:54 < RangerZ> but... lots of 'WTF' choices, which don't promote me spending money, except to scalpers
16:56 < RangerZ> and the 'marth' amiibo kinda pisses me off a lot... b/c Fire Emblem is a First Party title... and _IS_ a major money maker
16:57 < RangerZ> but since I'm a 3DS owner (and not wii U) there was no way for me to 'use' the damn figures so why would I buy them before I could use them... etc...
16:57 <@Evilpig> LAME...... "The different amiibo franchises will work together in their respective games, but you'll need to delete your save data from another game, such as Super Smash Bros."
16:58 < RangerZ> WHAT
16:58 <@Evilpig> http://www.destructoid.com/wave-4-amiibo-announced-a-separate-mario-amiibo-line-is-happening-286181.phtml
16:58 < RangerZ> wow...
16:58 < RangerZ> they just lost
16:58 <@Evilpig> that's some grade a bullshit
16:59 <@Evilpig> so far the only game i've seen save anything to the amiibo has been ssb
16:59 <@Evilpig> mario kart just used them to unlock costumes, hyrule warriors uses them to unlock weapons
17:01 < RangerZ> wow...
17:01 < RangerZ> I knew the # of games would be limited
17:01 < RangerZ> b/c it only has 2k of memory or something
17:01 < RangerZ> but you should be able to do better than ONE game
17:01 < RangerZ> 2MB*
17:03 < RangerZ> and of course... you can't fucking reserve these units today
17:03 < RangerZ> if you DID want to get them :/
17:16 < RangerZ> nintendo would hate to have people pre-pay for millions of units, and then make money...
17:16 <@Evilpig> they're trying to drive up talk and get their names back in the running 
17:21 < RangerZ> IGN's nintendo podcast (admittedly not something I normally listen to, but I have the past few weeks) has been saying they think its entirely based on shareholders, b/c the company hasn't been profitable the last 2 years
17:21 < RangerZ> and that they won't be this time either
17:22 < RangerZ> but they need to show that 'things are improving'
17:22 < RangerZ> which honestly, I don't know...
17:22 < RangerZ> there hasn't been a -single- single-player game on the Wii U that has been a system seller
17:22 < RangerZ> even mario is a team-game
17:23 < RangerZ> no zelda yet, no wii u fire-emblem, no metroid
17:24 < RangerZ> hell, no new pac-man, frogger, or even bomberman
17:24 < RangerZ> which mind you nintedo doesn't -own- directly, but could easly push for games, etc
17:34 < RangerZ> especially when you look at ATLUS, NISofA, XseedGames, or one of the many other smaller Japanese publishers who have boards where people can ask the actual translators how much of a game is getting alter/censored/changed/or whatever
17:35 < RangerZ> especially with shit like this... where fucks given = 0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JPJ1lowWBM
17:36 < PigBot`> Title: AKIBAS TRIP: Undead & Undressed - PS4邃｢ Official Trailer (English) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:42 <@Dagmar> I am _really_ learning to hate the layout renderer in AS
17:42 <@Evilpig> http://geekologie.com/2015/01/guy-on-craigslist-needs-help-beating-sup.php
17:42 < PigBot`> Title: Guy On Craigslist Needs Help Beating Super Mario World | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
17:42 <@Dagmar> It is so terribly inaccurate in where it places the images this thing looks like a damn ransom note
17:53 <@Evilpig> bahahahahaa http://japancrate.com/blogs/news/18413103-strange-japanese-candy
17:53 < PigBot`> Title: Strange Japanese Candy | Japan Crate (at japancrate.com)
18:00 <@Mirage> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/4838867061.html
18:00 < PigBot`> Title: best of craigslist: Guy who chased purse snatcher - w4m (at www.craigslist.org)
18:00 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: That post can't be real. Super Mario World is too easy.
18:56 <@Evilpig> neat http://www.playerattack.com/news/2015/01/16/nintendo-power-glove-crucial-to-robot-chicken/
18:56 < PigBot`> Title: Nintendo Power Glove crucial to Robot Chicken ｫ Player Attack (at www.playerattack.com)
19:15 <@Shadow404>  where can i download battlefield vietnam safely? (no malware/viruses) even if i have to pay for it?
19:15 <@Dagmar> Probably Steam
19:16 <@Dagmar> Unless it's a recent EA title, in which case your options are 'Origin' but "safely" is out the window
19:16 <@Shadow404> grrr
19:16 <@Shadow404> its an old title
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19:35 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEnKW2rvjk0
19:35 < PigBot`> Title: How to sex education: Penis into vagina - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:15 <@Evilpig> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
20:15 <@Evilpig> http://meanwhileathq.tumblr.com/post/108282175100/onceablonde-handicorn-thanks-wilpig-d
20:15 < PigBot`> Title: Meanwhile at HQ 窶� onceablonde: Handicorn! Thanks wilpig :D (at meanwhileathq.tumblr.com)
20:29 <@oddball> I have to agree with a commentor.  I need to do a Galavant marathon.
20:58 <@Dagmar> I'm not sure I *want* to know why they're thanking you.
21:04 < RangerZ> he bought the handi-corn
21:04 < RangerZ> for them
21:09 <@Evilpig> indeed
21:21 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Seriously.  The preview renderer in AS is bad
21:21 < RangerZ> haven't played with it
21:22 <@Dagmar> It uses the shittiest method for rescaling possible
21:22 <@Dagmar> ...and apparently it's idea of alpha channels is only 1 bit deep
21:22 <@Dagmar> I've got some diagonal elements that have all kinds of sawtooth action happening
21:23 < RangerZ> huh?
21:24 < RangerZ> i honestly don't know much about the UI crap
21:24 < RangerZ> I spend my time in the ContentProvider/services world
21:24 < RangerZ> lol
21:24 <@Dagmar> Allow me to show you
21:24 < RangerZ> much simplier... just have to do it 100% right all the time
21:24 < RangerZ> and there "is" a 'right' (thats the thing)
21:25 < RangerZ> ok
21:26 < RangerZ> i used to always use http://www.droiddraw.org/ for making the UIs
21:26 < PigBot`> Title: DroidDraw : Graphical User Interface Editor for Android Cell Phone Development and Programming (at www.droiddraw.org)
21:26 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: http://imgur.com/a6KuUVO
21:26 < PigBot`> Title: Bad scaling is bad. - Imgur (at imgur.com)
21:26 < RangerZ> then the elipse plug got 'not shitty', but even then I still just edited the XML
21:26 < RangerZ> nah, that looks fine
21:26 < RangerZ> ;)
21:27 <@Dagmar> It is not "fine".
21:27 < RangerZ> hehe
21:27 < RangerZ> what size is the original?
21:27 <@Dagmar> If you had any idea how much detail work I've been putting into this shit. lol
21:27 <@Dagmar> Inifite.
21:27 <@Dagmar> er Infinite.  I did these things in SVG.
21:27 <@Dagmar> I've actually redone the numbers for xxxhdpi three times today, and xxhdpi twice
21:28 <@Dagmar> Those number are supposed to have a little glow around them.
21:28 <@Dagmar> ...but who needs alpha channeling
21:28 <@Dagmar> lol
21:30 < aestetix> wow
21:30 < aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/2snn0q/tifu_by_reading_my_wifes_text_messages_shes/
21:30 < PigBot`> Title: TIFU by reading my wife's text messages. She's cheating on me : tifu (at www.reddit.com)
21:30 < aestetix> this is interesting to read
21:47 < aestetix> Apparently I was wrong
21:47 < aestetix> The avergage wage in the bay area is NOT 120k
21:48 < aestetix> The average wage is 140k
21:51 < RangerZ> hahaha
21:51 < RangerZ> 34k nationwide I think
21:53 < RangerZ> median: $51,939
21:53 < RangerZ> from wiki -at least-
21:55 < RangerZ> ohh sorry, thats 'household-income'.. "The overall median personal income for all individuals over the age of 18 was $24,062"
21:58 <@Dagmar> Two more resomolutions to go
21:59 <@Dagmar> hdpi and shit
21:59 <@Dagmar> If I have one more motherfucker asking me for theming... I swear
21:59 < RangerZ> LOL
21:59 <@Dagmar> Why the fuck do people install such a heavily customized widget and then want to THEME it
21:59 < RangerZ> so whats the 'trick' ?
22:00 <@Dagmar> trick?
22:00 <@Dagmar> I am sorely tempted to add a toggle for resistance/enlightened
22:01 <@Dagmar> ...and if you're using the resistance theme, the clock will randomly run five minutes slow
22:01 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to do away with the dedicated septicycle widget
22:01 < aestetix> RangerZ: wow
22:02 <@Dagmar> I'll make it so if you touch the thing it'll display the septicycle time for the next 4 seconds
22:02 < aestetix> RangerZ: yeah here it is not possible for a family of four (parents and two kids) to survive on under $200k houshold income
22:02 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much _all_ housing costs
22:02 < RangerZ> yep
22:03 < RangerZ> my apartment costs me ~1k/mo in rent/utilities
22:03 < RangerZ> ~1$/sq.ft.
22:03 < RangerZ> but a lot of people in SF used to live like that too
22:04 < RangerZ> until their rent-controlled apartments were sold out from under them
22:04 < aestetix> I was talking to someone last night.... his friend rents an apartment a block away from tiwtter's HQ
22:04 < RangerZ> the entire bay's issue is that there is so little land , and even that is limited by 'worth living on'
22:04 < aestetix> His friend's rent is $5k a month
22:05 < RangerZ> hahaha
22:06 < RangerZ> I don't get that
22:07 < RangerZ> i dunno... I like 'the city atmosphere' but... you can 'go-to-the-downtown' and not live THERE
22:09 < RangerZ> aestetix: oh shit
22:09 < RangerZ> that story is from -today-
22:09 < RangerZ> and its reddit so its likely to be someone from cali
22:09 < RangerZ> so only 7pm there... lol
22:10 <@rhia> $1 a sq ft? ... that's close to Seattle rent prices, well, low ... more like snohomish county rent price
22:11 < RangerZ> rhia: rent and utilities
22:11 < RangerZ> and its a nice 2bd/1.5 bath apartment
22:11 <@rhia> AND utilities?!?  damn
22:12 < RangerZ> 732 for rent, rest is utils
22:12 <@rhia> One Bedroom 900 sq ft, $1400 is pretty much typical for Seattle in the "can I walk home drunk alone at 3 am" prices
22:12 < RangerZ> 990 sq.ft. , full wrap around kitchen
22:12 <@rhia> and that is sans utilities
22:13 < RangerZ> yeah, my rent is a lot cheaper than most b/c I got in at 'just' the right time, it was 595/mo for the first year, gone up ~50$/mo each year, lol
22:14 <@rhia> 595 will get you a nicely steam cleaned dumpster here
22:14 < RangerZ> now, it would be like 900+/mo for just rent, b/c of so many people moving to nashville, and what not
22:15 < RangerZ> (more like people have jobs now, but you get the point)
22:15 <@rhia> ... the point being that living on the west coast is $$$$$$$?
22:17 <@rhia> otho, being able to have, ahem "librul" bumperstickers and not being targetted by "real, true, believers" ..... priceless
22:17 <@rhia> i'll pay the double indemnity
22:18 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: when I left nashville my rent was about $850/mo
22:19 < RangerZ> ahh
22:19 <@rhia> Evilpig, lucky you
22:19 < RangerZ> Evilpig: didn't you live in a shithole though?
22:19 < RangerZ> where the AC kept going out?
22:20 <@Evilpig> nah, my apartment was decent.  the management of it was shittastic but it was as much so as anywhere else
22:20 <@Evilpig> they were always doing just enough to get by rather than a little more and do it right
22:20 < RangerZ> ahh
22:20 < RangerZ> yeah :/
22:20 <@rhia> http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
22:20 < PigBot`> Title: Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism (at www.rense.com)
22:21 <@Evilpig> like the a/c... it had a small leak in one of the condensor coils, instead of replacing it properly they just recharged it when I called and bitched
22:21 < RangerZ> yeah, gotta hate when people do that
22:22 <@Dagmar> You should have just gone out there and smeared a big blob of JB Weld on the leak
22:22 <@Evilpig> if I could have found it I would have
22:22 <@Dagmar> Hell I've watched guys just dribble solder all over leaks in those things
22:22 <@Evilpig> it was a slow leak.  took between two and three months to leak
22:22 <@Dagmar> I guess dye is too hard for people to figure out
22:23 <@Evilpig> dye costs money and then they'd have to admit the problem.
22:23 <@rhia> we're renting from a sweet mom with 2 kids with health issues and her husband, a military intelligence officer. . . . .guess which one we deal with when the roof leaks
22:23 <@Evilpig> you could also say refridgerant costs too...
22:23 <@Evilpig> rhia: the contractor? :D
22:25 <@rhia> Evilpig, not in WA.... we cannot legally bring in a contractor to do ANYTHING on the house since we rent
22:26 <@rhia> i walk a fine line between talking with landlady and having to deal with landlord ... but 1$ per sq ft? LOLOL, that's CHEAP in Seattle
22:29 <@rhia> we currently live in a 1100 sq ft stand-alone house just barely over the county line - we're in snohomish, not king-- and our rent is low at just under 1,500 a month ....
22:31 <@rhia> and our place is 60 yrs old and Constantly needing plumbing, electrical, roofing issues seen to
22:33 <@rhia> it's sort of funny, moving here and seeing conversations in channel
22:34 <@Evilpig> I can point out my rent up here again.  it's stupid high like frisco
22:35 <@rhia> are you paying more than $70 a sq ft?  in NASHVGAS?
22:35 <@Evilpig> yes but not in nashvegas
22:35 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  wait here.  math
22:36 <@Evilpig> that'd be like $63000 a month
22:36 <@rhia> then you're now in cosmopolitan figures, but in nashville, that should mean 10' ceilings and 10k chandeliers
22:37 <@Evilpig> so no.  I wish
22:37 <@rhia> ? ? ! ? !  damn, piggy, just pay it <G>
22:37 <@rhia> you got that much sq footage - that cheap? wtF are you bitching about?
22:41 <@rhia> otoh, i'm willing to pay the "non-tea-party" surcharge to not have to worry if our neighbor believes in http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm
22:41 < PigBot`> Title: Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism (at www.rense.com)
22:45 <@rhia> (if that describes the tea party, oh well)
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23:18 < RangerZ1> ok.... perhaps this was a 'little' too aggressive...  to reply to a survey by the Ohio Democratic party asking "how can we reach you?"
23:19 < RangerZ1> Email: ----- or if you don't actually grow a spine(like Obama finally did after the election), then I'll be the person reaching out to you, to tell you who I organized to be your replacement(s) after I finish my PhD and move back.
23:27 <@Dagmar> Nah... it'll be fine
23:27 <@Dagmar> You might want to be more specific about what a spine is used for tho'.
23:27 <@Dagmar> Some of them might think you're asking them to stand up for their lobbyists rights.
23:31 <@Dagmar> It would probably not make Google happy if I put in here "This will look like crap on an MDPI display, but if you're using one you already know that."
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23:48 <@Evilpig> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/man-died-at-sperm-bank-after-fourth-donation-in-10-days/story-fneuzlbd-1227057469235
23:50 <@Dagmar> o.O
23:50 <@Dagmar> Were they using an industrial milking machine or something?
23:50 <@Evilpig> and it's an old story.  which is crazy
23:51 <@Evilpig> "They claim staff made him sign up and have demanded $648,545 in compensation."
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