--- Log opened Fri Jan 16 00:00:05 2015
00:12 < aestetix> RangerZ|laptop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDANcaPx1xg
00:12 < PigBot`> Title: President Obama Speaks on the Attack on Benghazi - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:13 < aestetix> So yeah, it seems like they knew this would come up and very cleverly worded it
00:13 < aestetix> It's obvious they had no idea whether it was terrorists or not, but this helped shield that
00:15 < RangerZ|laptop> no, they knew, but they didn't want to -admit- they knew
00:15 < RangerZ|laptop> b/c the CIA wanted to keep that secret for a bit
00:15 < RangerZ|laptop> to see who claimed it, and see who talked about it, etc
00:15 < aestetix> fair enough
00:16 < RangerZ|laptop> that and they weren't 100% sure, only like 85% or something
00:16 < aestetix> Is that kind of like letting troops die in an ambush you know about because you don't want to let them know you're listening to their calls?
00:16 < RangerZ|laptop> and... if you remember, that video at the time was out there
00:16 < RangerZ|laptop> aestetix: no, this was all after the fact
00:17 < RangerZ|laptop> they were warned, but he went to a CIA office basically 'called' an ambasador outpost
00:17 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
00:19 < RangerZ|laptop> and 'warned' = everyone should be on alert b/c of date and events
00:19 < RangerZ|laptop> not warned = you'll get attacked
00:19 < RangerZ|laptop> really this was a CIA failure
00:19 < RangerZ|laptop> their base didn't have an escape route, it wasn't guarded well enough, despite having legal basis for HAVING military there
00:20 < RangerZ|laptop> etc
00:20 < RangerZ|laptop> but no one is willing to say anything bad about the CIA
00:20 < RangerZ|laptop> :/
00:22 < aestetix> I will :p
00:24 < RangerZ|laptop> LOL @ Xbox One dropping back down to 350$
00:25 < RangerZ|laptop> yeah, there was no way people were going to pay 500$ then 400$, for a console less powerful than a 400$ PS4
00:25 < RangerZ|laptop> but paying less, thats not bad
00:26 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/555958605225005056
00:26 < PigBot`> Title: aestetix on Twitter: "@rubin110 Not if you search for Sidney Poitier." (at twitter.com)
00:26 < aestetix> this is how you handle idiots
00:27 < RangerZ|laptop> I don't get his point
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> ohh
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> I do now
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> the Oscars
00:28 < aestetix> huh?
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> all 20 of the male and female actors are white
00:28 < aestetix> none of those movies are on netflix though
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> they are/will be for special accounts
00:28 < aestetix> uh, isn't Selma up for an oscar?
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> for reviewers
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> not for best actor
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> or best actress
00:28 < RangerZ|laptop> or best movie
00:29 < aestetix> I doubt Rubin has a special account.
00:29 < RangerZ|laptop> nah
00:29 < RangerZ|laptop> and netflix apparently hasn't started that yet
00:29 < RangerZ|laptop> but its one of the things they 'want' to do _badly_
00:29 < RangerZ|laptop> the studios don't like it
00:29 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
00:30 < RangerZ|laptop> ohh, sorry, selma DID get best picture
00:30 < aestetix> So wait
00:31 < aestetix> How does what he said relate to Netflix
00:31 < aestetix> I don't think his comment was as profound as you claim
00:31 < RangerZ|laptop> that we apparently don't have any black actors/actresses ?
00:31 < RangerZ|laptop> i dunno
00:34 < aestetix> what about Django Unchained
00:43 < RangerZ|laptop> that was last year
00:43 < RangerZ|laptop> they did their token movie, they don't have to care anymore for a while
00:43 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
00:43 < RangerZ|laptop> (sadly truer than it should be)
00:43 < RangerZ|laptop> also, apparently the movie wasn't 'done' until dec
00:44 < RangerZ|laptop> which is a no-no for the award shows
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00:52 < RangerZ|laptop> b/c the studios have to PROMOTE for rewards
00:52 < RangerZ|laptop> b/c the people who vote aren't the critics ...
00:53 < RangerZ|laptop> thats a good recipe for 'quality'
01:02 < RangerZ|laptop> hmm nexus 7 got 5.0.2 update
01:02 < RangerZ|laptop> original nexus 7 (for those that have it)
01:21 <@Dagmar> I published me app
01:22 < RangerZ|laptop> cool
01:22 < RangerZ|laptop> link?
01:22 < RangerZ|laptop> or 'name' ?
01:22 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
01:23 < RangerZ|laptop> << waiting for ART to re-compile all of my apps for the new VM runtime... lol
01:23 < RangerZ|laptop> should be interesting to see if hearthstone is more-playable
01:24 < RangerZ|laptop> dagmar....
01:24 < RangerZ|laptop> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.elextech.happyfarm this is the first app that comes up when you search " Dagmar "
01:24 < RangerZ|laptop> [Happy Farm:Candy Day] with a pic of a pig...
01:24 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
01:34 <@Dagmar> That's because I put mine in as _beta testing only_
01:35 < RangerZ|laptop> ahh
01:36 <@Dagmar> I set it to be accessible by anyone who is in the Nashville Enlightened Ingress G+ Community
01:36 < aestetix> Fucking shirtcockers.
01:36 <@Dagmar> THe URL for peopel who are in that is https://play.google.com/apps/testing/surrealestates.septiclockwidget
01:36 < PigBot`> Title: Google Play (at play.google.com)
01:36 < RangerZ|laptop> not public
01:36 <@Dagmar> ...but, like they said, it can (and DOES) take a few hours for beta apps to show up
01:36 < RangerZ|laptop> ahh
01:37 <@Dagmar> So... it's not even showing up for me yet.  lol
01:37 < RangerZ|laptop> yeah, they run it through emulation for a while to see if its a virus
01:37 < RangerZ|laptop> cat <--> mouse = game
01:38 < RangerZ|laptop> pretty sure thats what my mentor from UCB worked on... b/c it 'was' what he was doing for PhD... but apparently he can't say b/c of security, etc
01:38 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
01:39 <@Dagmar> Next time I'll stick an EICAR test string in it then
01:40 < RangerZ|laptop> hell... make your account name that
01:40 < RangerZ|laptop> hehe
01:41 < RangerZ|laptop> the 'magic' of unicode...
01:41 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
01:45 <@Dagmar> Wow.
01:45 <@Dagmar> This has to be the lamest legal defense I've heard in a long time
01:46 <@Dagmar> "It was really Mark Karpeles!  Really!"
01:48 < RangerZ|laptop> hehe
01:48 < RangerZ|laptop> silk road v1 or v2?
01:48 < RangerZ|laptop> b/c v2 is gonna start here soon too
01:48 < RangerZ|laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D-dkRWBaco
01:48 < PigBot`> Title: Kingsman: The Secret Service - Red Band Trailer #3 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:48 < RangerZ|laptop> so... that trailer actually makes it look good
01:48 < RangerZ|laptop> the first few didn't do a good job of selling it.. b/c they had to be viewable by children... hehe
02:02 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ|laptop: Since that second guy rolled, I doubt there will be a Silk Road 2.0 trial.
02:03 < RangerZ|laptop> my friend is really good friends with him
02:03 < RangerZ|laptop> she was all upset
02:03 < _NSAKEY> I'm guessing she's in the camp who didn't know he was running a drug market?
02:03 < RangerZ|laptop> I told her... if he has a USB drive that he needs to 'disapear' because it has a 'wallet' on it...
02:04 < RangerZ|laptop> that I'd _hold_ it for him...
02:04 < RangerZ|laptop> ;)
02:04 < RangerZ|laptop> lol
02:04 < RangerZ|laptop> she didn't appreciate that, hehe
02:04 < RangerZ|laptop> nope
02:04 < RangerZ|laptop> he ran it 'all cool' didn't spend big or anything
02:05 <@Dagmar> Don't forget you'll be happy to keep any weird abstract art projects that look like a bunch of black and qhite squares.
02:05 < RangerZ|laptop> yep
02:06 < RangerZ|laptop> apparently when I was young ~7y/o , I told my mom... "if I ever have to disapear, look out the back window and if you see a green ribbon tied to the tree, you'll know I'm safe, but that I had to leave for your safety"
02:06 < RangerZ|laptop> apparently she not thrilled at my creativity
02:06 < RangerZ|laptop> hehe
02:31 < aestetix> have any of you done hackerrank.com challenges?
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02:57 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9N-IuBhRuA
03:02 <@Dagmar> I already know idiots are allowed on the internet
03:02 <@Dagmar> I don't need to watch things that rub it in my face.
03:05 <@Dagmar> So... In the newest Pokemon, apparently your _trainer's_ PDA has gained the poser of some kind of streetpass
03:05 <@Dagmar> s/poser/power/
03:06 <@Dagmar> I think they're running out of ideas on minigames
03:06 <@Dagmar> It also has a built in TV.
03:06 <@Dagmar> They air these little shows _constantly_ talking about what people are doing.
03:07 <@Dagmar> ...including WonderTrades, where they cheerfully tell yout that <unstranslatable japanese> is doing their 83rd Wonder Trade...
03:07 <@Dagmar> They sent... a skitty.
03:07 <@Dagmar> ...got back some kind of pokemon big enough to eat them
03:08 <@Dagmar> ...and the announcer never ever says, "Man... fuck that kid."
03:08 <@Dagmar> Apparnetly some people's method of filling their pokedex relies heavily on just chucking as many pokemon into Wonder Trade as possible
03:09 <@Dagmar> The Name Rater Guy has his own show
03:09 <@Dagmar> ...where he talks some smack about someone's Pokemon
03:09 <@Dagmar> ...and then they reveal that they _time it_ when you nickname a pokemon.
03:11 < aestetix> wow
03:11 < aestetix> http://imgur.com/gallery/CXcZG
03:11 < PigBot`> Title: W...T...F - Imgur (at imgur.com)
03:11 < aestetix> Unsure if these toys are offbrands or outright ripoffs
03:11 <@Dagmar> The TV also reveals that the DS watches you more closely than Facebook
03:17 <@Dagmar> aestetix: There is no way that toy is legit
03:22 < aestetix> I am starting to wonder if I should just start doing contract work.
03:22 < aestetix> It seems like there's a huge demand for scaling linux systems.
03:26 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: What would stop you from walling "penis" all over them?
03:29 < aestetix> Actually I think one of the toys *was* a penis
03:31 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I meant something such as the following:
03:31 < _NSAKEY> wall <<< "HACKED BY AESTETIX GREETZ 2 #SE2600"
03:36 < aestetix> Well first off, it would say "HACKED BY _NSAKEY"
03:42 < _NSAKEY> Good thing most of the people in this channel log, just in case you get any bright ideas.
03:47 < _NSAKEY> At least I'll know who to blame if someone starts defacing brazilian universities and putting my name down.
03:50 < aestetix> Brazillian? Like 2girls1cup?
03:52 < _NSAKEY> I thought you were more of a 1man1jar type.
03:54 < aestetix> No, that's Shadow404
05:14 < RangerZ> well thats stupid... the school is going to give me a check for X$ when I need to go pay X$ to the school... ugh
05:15 < RangerZ> correction I owe X/2$... so I have to wait for the check to be sent... then cash it... then pay the school back :/
05:17 < aestetix> That doesn't make any sense.
05:17 < aestetix> Except to the place which gets a chunk when you cash the check.
05:18 < RangerZ> its b/c I got a student loan, and I got it at a really odd time.
05:18 < RangerZ> I didn't realize my parking/rec fees weren't being taken out of my paycheck
05:18 < RangerZ> instead I had to pay 3k to register
05:19 < aestetix> http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/01/14/mark-zuckerbergs-book-club-is-off-to-a-pretty-lame-start/
05:19 < PigBot`> Title: Mark Zuckerbergs book club is off to a pretty lame start - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com)
05:19 < RangerZ> (I've never paid the rec fees, b/c its a few hundred a semester and I don't plan on leaving until I get more degrees, lol)
05:19 < RangerZ> unless it has faces on it, like necronomicon...
05:20 < RangerZ> which... the collectors DVD had fleshy rubber on the outside carved into faces...
05:20 < RangerZ> lol
05:21 < RangerZ> aestetix: I'm thinking of just disabling comments on the youtube videos I post, and making it 'approved only'
05:21 < RangerZ> b/c 'social media' at this point has failed in creating a good way for handling trolls
05:22 < RangerZ> though... I did troll pretty hard the trolls in coursera...
05:22 < aestetix> I just love the fact that half a million people signed up for the book club, 200 showed up, and like under 10 had read the book
05:22 < RangerZ> because I appoligized that we were making 'too easy' of a course, and offered books on the subject matter... but he might not like them because my advisor wrote them all
05:22 < RangerZ> -_-
05:23 < RangerZ> I don't know if anyone else quite got my sarcasm, b/c I wrote it non-condescendingly
05:23 < RangerZ> so it looked almost legit , lol
05:23 < RangerZ> but I found it amusing
05:24 < RangerZ> but a lot of youtubers are just disabling comments entirely now
05:25 < RangerZ> but now they have the 'top comments' drop down... which allows you to go back to newest first
05:25 < RangerZ> but part of me wants 'oldest first'... like every other fucking online content system in the world...
05:31 < aestetix> You know, the Facebook Book Club *could* work.
05:31 < aestetix> If they have people submit questions beforehand.
05:31 < RangerZ> youtube has gotta be careful, yahoo getting mozilla's traffic, could easily make a 'tube' site (maybe green? to fuck with everyone...) that doesn't have the -crap- customer service that google has
05:32 < RangerZ> thats always been google's achillies heel... no customer service dept (i mean... NONE)
05:32 < RangerZ> aestetix: of course it would be, have everyone submit anon questions into a blind pool... and then data mine common questions
05:33 < RangerZ> and then have someone moderate it
05:33 < RangerZ> to sift through the 'penis' comments
05:33 < aestetix> haha
05:33 < aestetix> grep -v "penis\|vagina"
05:47 < aestetix> http://t.co/Rdt6zOxE5E
05:47 < PigBot`> Title: BBC News - US-Cuba travel and trade: New rules start on Friday (at t.co)
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07:26 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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11:12 < Synx|hm> top of the morning to ya
11:12 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: you mentioned BIND yesterday, mind if i ask what platform you are running that on?
11:26 < Synx|hm> if youtube could load a video inside of 30min today that would be awesome
11:27 < Synx|hm> this is like going back in time when i would get up at 1am stuff the modem between two pillows to mute the noise and touch myself to pictures that took 45min to load
11:35 <@Evilpig> heh
11:41 <@Bahhumbug> If you're on comcast that could have been as recent as yesterday sans the pillows.
11:41 < Synx|hm> all fucking week, horrible latency to some sites
11:41 < Synx|hm> comcast
11:41 < Synx|hm> do they have a peering pipe down?
11:41 < Synx|hm> its not everything just some stuff
11:42 < Synx|hm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsYSxkbgW-M&list=PLCnMrCd_0oAwMKGYIsWyb9ajxCnf7oX3V&index=1
11:42 < PigBot`> Title: The New Basement Tapes ft. Vocal By Jim James | “Down On The Bottom” | Live from Capital Studios - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
11:42 < Synx|hm> this will not load
11:43 <@Bahhumbug> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/01/16/1429201/steam-for-linux-bug-wipes-out-all-of-a-users-files
11:43 < PigBot`> Title: Steam For Linux Bug Wipes Out All of a User's Files - Slashdot (at linux.slashdot.org)
11:43 <@Bahhumbug> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
11:43 < Synx|hm> how the fuck did QA not catch that, my god
11:43 <@Bahhumbug> You're best advised to download what you want from youtube and watch it locally instead of streaming it.  comcrap and youtube peering has sucked donkey balls for years.
11:44 <@Bahhumbug> I suspect that there is yet another round of Blame The Other Guy going on at present.
11:44 <@Bahhumbug> Steam on linux.  THAT is what can go wrong.
11:44 < Synx|hm> what odd is its only videos posted by showtime on this playlist
11:49 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: not odd at all
11:50 < RangerZ> just means they weren't popular recently on your local network, and weren't cached on a local server
11:50 < Synx|hm> right but it wont stream at all, nor completely load
11:50 < Synx|hm> but i can download it just fine
11:51 < RangerZ> whats odd about that?
11:51 < RangerZ> you have comcast
11:51 < RangerZ> -_-
11:51 < Synx|hm> i duno, i dont know enough how youtube does content delivery
11:51 < Synx|hm> lol
11:51 < Synx|hm> my connection has been awesome up until this month, rock solid
11:51 < RangerZ> they make 1980s AT&T look like a pillar of TRUST
11:52 < Synx|hm> im going to reboot the modem now see if i pickup some different freqs
11:52 < RangerZ> who needs anti-trust laws...
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11:52 < Synx|hm> oh dont get my wrong comcast is the devil, just for me they have had non interrupted service, doesn't make me hate them any less though
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11:54 < RangerZ> 1) FCC should regulate ISPs as a utility, 2) sometime in 2030s when democrats can win back the house... they should just pass a law making it so-- picard style
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12:07 < Synx|hm> well that was fun
12:07 < Synx|hm> why is nashville one of the last markets to get the auto upgrade to 105Mbit service on blast
12:07 < Synx|hm> jesus
12:07 < Synx|hm> also ive blown my 300GB cap now 3 months in a row
12:08 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: because comcast doesn't want people to get used to fast
12:08 < RangerZ> then we might want 1000
12:08 < RangerZ> *dreams of google-fiber*
12:08 < Synx|hm> ha, TDS is advertising Gb already
12:09 < Synx|hm> im not sure im on the newest gear to support the higher speeds though in my area, i keep getting sub 700Mhz locks from the modem, i think the new 700Mhz+ gear supports higher BW hence the free upgrades most other places in the country
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12:11 <@SuMo_D> ello
12:11 < RangerZ> hello
12:18 <@Dolemite> I have TDS Fiber at my home in Farragut.  It's sweet, though the residential gateway they provide is a piece of shit.
12:18 < Synx|hm> so jelly
12:19 < Synx|hm> my sister who lives across the street btw has fiber to the premis with united.net but they are so far behind in marketing/product codes that they make her get a phone line and only offer 100Mbit service ala DSL (the wet copper pair part)
12:19 < Synx|hm> so dumb
12:24 < Synx|hm> my god, yorkville, IL got the free blast to 105Mbit upgrade, i lived there 20 years ago the population was 4000
12:24 < Synx|hm> but nashville NOPE
12:25 <@Evilpig> ahahhahaha
12:25 <@Evilpig> tumblr staff are posting 10,000 gifts a day on average in slack chat
12:25 < aestetix> You know what's great
12:25 < aestetix> The Googleplex does not have Google Fiber
12:26 < aestetix> Or at least the area near it
12:26 < Synx|hm> ha
12:38 <@Evilpig> http://hackmylifetrutv.tumblr.com/
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12:49 < aestetix> Are you fucking kidding me
12:49 < aestetix> Someone on hnn is complaining about sexualized images in comic book
12:50 < aestetix> Perhaps next we'll hear about how paintings from the Renaissance are shameful
12:50 < aestetix> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8898088
12:50 < PigBot`> Title: What taking my daughter to a comic book store taught me | Hacker News (at news.ycombinator.com)
12:51 <@oddball> aestetix: Folks have been bitching about that for years.
12:52 < aestetix> Were they bitching about it in the 80s and 90s?
12:52 < aestetix> Because the article kind of aggrandizes comics from the 80s
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12:53 < aestetix> I mean a good response would be for the guy to create his own comic book that he approves of
12:54 <@oddball> I know they were in the 90's... pretty sure they were in the 80's, too.
12:55 <@oddball> Hell, comic books have been blamed for the downfall of civilization for a very, very long time.
12:55 < aestetix> so it's just a new wave of idiots complaining about stuff
12:55 <@oddball> If it wasn't the sexualization, it was the evils of horror comics.
12:55 < aestetix> Just like the activist who believes in free speech until he has a kid.
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12:58 <@Dolemite> aestetix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_of_the_Innocent
12:58 < PigBot`> Title: Seduction of the Innocent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
12:58 < aestetix> oddball: the whole thing reads like "Comics should do this" and "comics should be like that"
12:58 <@Dolemite> I actually have a first printing copy of SOTI
12:59 <@oddball> Dolemite: Thanks.  I was blankng on the name of the book.
12:59 < aestetix> Dolemite: wow. Now I know why the sexual revolution happened.
13:00 <@Dolemite> It is the largest single factor in the collapse of most publishing houses in the 1950s, including EC
13:00 <@oddball> Folks always have *something* to point at as to why the next generation are evil/lazy/sick/etc.
13:01 < aestetix> Dolemite: wait, how?
13:01 < aestetix> Do you mean comic publishing houses?
13:01 <@oddball> yep
13:01 <@Dolemite> Yes
13:01 < aestetix> ah
13:01 <@Dolemite> SOTI led to a series of Senate subcommittee hearings
13:01 <@Dolemite> Which led to the voluntary shutdown of a number of publishers, and the creation of the Comics Code Authority
13:02 < aestetix> I guess they didn't have a Frank Zappa to argue reason?
13:02 <@Dolemite> It was only AFTER the CCA that people thought of comic books as being more for kids than adults
13:02 <@oddball> And a lot of stores wouldn't carry comics that weren't CCA approved.
13:03 <@Dolemite> Prior to that comic books were simply viewed as books with pictures, and it was very common for an adult to have read one within the past year
13:03 <@oddball> So, horror comics were forced out (which were a big thing at the time, and pretty much all that EC published)
13:03 < aestetix> That seems like a big first amendment issue.
13:03 <@Dolemite> They had Sci-Fi, Horror, and some Romance at the time
13:04 <@Dolemite> aestetix: This happened at the same time as McCarthyism
13:04 <@oddball> Wonderful example of that: the US government used to hand out comics to the troops that covered things like how to clean your rifle.
13:04 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: The comic book publishers self-regulated before the government could really do anything.
13:05 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I have one of those, that's for IDing mines and boobytraps during WWII.
13:05 <@Dolemite> Yes, they voluntarily created the CCA, which is why there was no real fanfare when it finally dissolved around 2000
13:05 < aestetix> That's a shame. I wish the publishers had fought it.
13:05 <@Dolemite> They did
13:05 <@Dolemite> But you can only fight for so long before your funds run out
13:06 <@Dolemite> And when you're fighting the US Government, it has deeper pockets than you
13:06 <@oddball> Dolemite: Well, after that Spiderman comic dealing with the evils of drugs (which the CCA wouldn't approve) was published in the 80's(?), it was kind of proven that the CCA was a joke.
13:06 <@Dolemite> Before that you had a Green Arrow/Green Lantern crossover that dealt with drug addiction
13:07 <@oddball> There is also thought that a couple of the big publishers (including DC) decided that the CCA was a good way to get rid of some competition.
13:07 <@Dolemite> But the 1980s is when publishers decided to start carrying books that didn't carry the seal
13:07 <@oddball> Dolemite: yep, forgot about that one.
13:07 <@Dolemite> Then by the mid 1990s they didn't really care
13:07 <@Dolemite> Archie was the last comic to carry the seal and even it dropped it in 2011
13:07 < aestetix> So here's a question, somewhaat related
13:07 <@oddball> But I think it was the Spiderman comic that actually got some endorsment from anti-drug orgs.
13:07 < aestetix> What happens if a movie theatre refuses to deny kids entry to NC-17 movies
13:08 <@oddball> That's what's supposed to happen now.
13:08 <@Dolemite> aestetix: That's part of the distribution contract
13:08 <@oddball> You'll also notice that there are very, very few widely release NC-17/unrated movies.
13:08 <@Dolemite> So if you don't enforce the ratings, you can't get the movies
13:09 < aestetix> oddball: that's because an NC-17 rating basically kills your movie.
13:10 <@oddball> Similarly, it's generally considered bad if a video game is rated AO, since that means that Walmart, etc won't carry it.
13:10 < aestetix> Unless it's so compelling.... I think showgirls was like that.
13:10 <@oddball> aestetix: ding ding ding
13:10 <@Dolemite> The 1980s is when you saw a resurgence of independent comic book stores, largely fueled by the pairing up of comic books and gaming in the same store - at the time neither were financially viable outside of a metropolitan area, but together they could make money in the suburbs
13:10 <@oddball> And Showgirls ended up tanking, I believe.
13:10 <@Dolemite> Critically it tanked, but I think it managed to squeak out a profit at the box office
13:11 <@Dolemite> Everybody wanted to go see Saved by the Boob
13:11 < aestetix> I can't remember if Midnight Cowboy tanked...
13:11 <@oddball> There's been a number of movies that were initially rated NC-17 that went back and edited shit to get the R rating (ex: Team America)
13:11 < aestetix> oddball: and South Park, I think.
13:11 <@oddball> Probably
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13:14 < aestetix> It appears Midnight Cowboy made a profit
13:14 < aestetix> Although that could be because it was a really good movie.
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13:15 < RangerZ1> http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.637518 So Isreal will seek to 'dismantle' International Criminal Court rather than see it investigate Isreal...
13:16 < RangerZ1> Isreal really isn't doing a great job of convincing me it didn't/doesn't do war crimes...
13:17 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to get out of here and get some luncheez.  Later.
13:36 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ1: I don't see it is a priority for them to convince you, nor anyone else, any anything.  They do as they wish.  They always have.  They always will.
13:36 <@Bahhumbug> s/any /of /
13:36 < aestetix> hi Bahhumbug
13:39 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: it was more of rhetorical statement... because I can't insult (question?, boycott, or speak ill of) Isreal
13:40 < RangerZ1> one downside of military grants -_-
13:40 <@Bahhumbug> You can insult Israel all you want.
13:40 < RangerZ1> no, I'd lose my funding
13:40 < RangerZ1> federal law
13:40 < RangerZ1> which is hilarious
13:40 <@Bahhumbug> You're in the wrong field.
13:41 <@Bahhumbug> And can you provide a citation to that, please?
13:42 < RangerZ1> offhand no, but it was in my paperwork from the univ. as a "this exists..." type of thing
13:42 < RangerZ1> if I can find it, i will
13:42 <@Bahhumbug> Thank you.  Because I don't really see how such an idiotic thing is enforceable.
13:43 <@Bahhumbug> And just for you: Fuck Israel.
13:43 < RangerZ1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycotts_of_Israel#United_States_government_response
13:43 < PigBot`> Title: Boycotts of Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
13:43 <@Bahhumbug> (The first person to say that I am a racist for that can kindly bend over to make my sticking by boot up your ass easier for me)
13:43 < RangerZ1> part of that
13:44 < RangerZ1> but I'm off to the lab, later
13:44 < RangerZ1> ISIS HERE I COME...
13:44 < RangerZ1> wait...
13:44 < RangerZ1> lol;
13:45 <@Bahhumbug> Quick perusal of that leads to this being the only pertinent line that I found: Agreements to discriminate or actual discrimination against other persons based on race, religion, sex, national origin or nationality.
13:45 <@Bahhumbug> This was a _quick_ review.
13:45 <@Bahhumbug> That doesn't mean you can't speak ill of the State.
13:45 <@Bahhumbug> But it's grey.
13:46 <@Bahhumbug> And lame :(
13:46 <@Bahhumbug> We need to remove Israel from the USA tit.
13:46 <@Bahhumbug> Enough is enough already.
13:46 <@Bahhumbug> We've been subsidizing that country since its (most recent) inception.
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14:14 < jaake> yo
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14:27 < _NSAKEY> jaake: PING.
14:31 < Synx|hm> opticron: you around?
14:42 < _NSAKEY> Some of these are great: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2717822/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
14:42 < PigBot`> Title: Blackhat Reviews Ratings - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
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15:14 <@opticron> Synx|hm, I'm back, I was in meetings
15:15  * shapr grumbles
15:15 <@shapr> dang internets
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15:53 < aestetix> ok I have a dumb question
15:53 < aestetix> How do you create a bridge device in Linux?
15:54 < aestetix> Every time I try to do it, I kill the network for that system
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15:57 <@Evilpig> brctl create <bridge>
15:57 <@Evilpig> iirc
15:57 <@Evilpig> brctl addif <whatever> <bridge>
15:58 <@Evilpig> I might ahve a cheat sheet, one sec
15:58 <@Evilpig> oot@vmware:~# cat bridge
15:58 <@Evilpig> ifconfig br0 down
15:58 <@Evilpig> brctl delbr br0
15:58 <@Evilpig> ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0
15:58 <@Evilpig> ifconfig eth0 up
15:58 <@Evilpig> ifconfig eth2 0.0.0.0
15:58 <@Evilpig> ifconfig eth2 up
15:58 <@Evilpig> brctl addbr br0
15:58 <@Evilpig> brctl addif br0 eth2
15:58 <@Evilpig> #brctl addif br0 eth0
15:58 <@Evilpig> ifconfig br0 10.0.0.250 netmask 255.255.255.0
15:58 <@Evilpig> ifconfig br0 up
15:58 <@Evilpig> route add default gw 10.0.0.251
15:59 <@Evilpig> once you have it up, you can do brctl show and verify it's up
15:59 < aestetix> so you're not supposed to bind it to an existing IP?
15:59 < aestetix> that' where I was confused
15:59 <@Evilpig> no
15:59 < aestetix> no wonder it killed the network
16:00 < aestetix> So what happens... you log into the vpn, and it translates things from your IP address to the bridge ip?
16:00 < aestetix> well routes
16:01 <@Evilpig> if you're talking openvpn it makes virtual nics to add into the bridge session to get your traffic to the netowkr interface
16:01 < aestetix> Evilpig: so let's say I have set an IP on it. How do I bring to other systems? Or do I have to create bridge IPs on all of them?
16:02 < aestetix> ok
16:03 <@Evilpig> once the traffic is on the interface it's all a matter of routing the traffic
16:05 < aestetix> So if I have an external IP of 12.12.12.12 and an internal IP of 10.0.0.10, and a bridge IP of 1.2.3.4
16:05 < aestetix> do the other systems on the network connect to 1.2.3.4 or 10.0.0.10?
16:05 <@Evilpig> why the fuck would you rbridge not be on your network?  are you trying to keep it from working?
16:05 < aestetix> uhhhh
16:06 < aestetix> I vpn into server. I want to be able to connect to server 2, which is behind the vpn.
16:06 <@Evilpig> exactly how do you propose the packets magically transport themselves from your 1.2.3.4 network to the destination of 10.0.0.10
16:06 <@Bahhumbug> ip route add?
16:06 <@Bahhumbug> Just a thought.
16:06 <@Evilpig> not with openvpn
16:07 <@Evilpig> it hates that shit, or it did several years ago
16:07 < aestetix> I've been reading docs for two days trying to figure this out. :/
16:07 <@Bahhumbug> I'm pretty sure it's one of the methods it supports.
16:07 <@Evilpig> if the openvpn gateway isn't your network gateway then it has to be on the network as a client for traffic to get back to it
16:07 < aestetix> uhhhh
16:07 <@Evilpig> if you have openvpn running on your gateway then you can setup whatever crazy networks you want and just add routes accordingly
16:08 < aestetix> I have my openvpn server, which is the gateway to the network. My personal system is my client, that connects to openvpn.
16:08 < aestetix> How do I connect to the rest of the network? Sounds like ip route add?
16:08 <@Evilpig> just add the route
16:08 <@Evilpig> there is a line you can add to your openvpn session to auto add the route
16:08 <@Evilpig> it's a directive like "addendpoint" or something
16:08 < aestetix> Ahh ok.
16:09 <@Evilpig> I have all that shit on a thumbdrive somewhere.
16:09 < aestetix> The openvpn docs confused me into thinking I needed a bridge.
16:09 <@Evilpig> https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#redirect
16:09 < PigBot`> Title: HOWTO (at openvpn.net)
16:09 <@Evilpig> you do need a bridge
16:10 <@Evilpig> it's how it attaches the sessions.  but the bridge can be a single nic
16:11 < aestetix> So my client sends traffic to the VPN server via the external IP, which gets routed to the internal IPs of other servers
16:11 < aestetix> Where does the bridge IP come into play?
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16:12 <@Evilpig> generally it's your interface connected to the network
16:14 < aestetix> now I am really confused
16:14 < aestetix> is there a diagram that explains this beter?
16:14 < aestetix> openvpn's docs kind of suck for that
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16:25 < aestetix> On an unrelated note
16:25 < aestetix> Did Hillary announce if she's running for President?
16:29 <@Mirage> aestetix: if you only need 2-way communication to 1-2 machines you can get away with setting static routes.
16:30 < aestetix> Basiclaly the way I see it, a packet leaves my computer, connects to the VPN server via external IP, then gets routed to the internal IP and goes to the internal IP of a system on the network
16:31 < aestetix> So I don't undersatnd where the bridge IP comes into play. Assuming the openvpn server has three ips
16:31 < aestetix> Mirage: it's more than 2 machines.
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16:52 < aestetix> oh wait I think I figured it out
16:53 < aestetix> the bridge IP on the vpn server connects to the bridge IP on the vpn client
16:53 < aestetix> and then openvpn routes from that bridge IP to the rest of the network?
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17:01 < RangerZ> Evilpig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPEZ1GlvV9M
17:01 < PigBot`> Title: New 3DS XL Majoras Mask Edition Selling for Over $400 Online - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:01 < RangerZ> you're lucky you got one
17:01 < RangerZ> Nintendo has decided they don't want to make money
17:01 < RangerZ> so they only make 9 of something millions of people might want, and 1000s do
17:01 < RangerZ> ...for sure...
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17:22 <@Evilpig> I'm not selling it.  tempting as it is to do so
17:22 <@Evilpig> if I was thinking ahead I would have bought a second one
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19:01 <@Evilpig> Dagmar, Mirage, Bahhumbug:  got a centos6 install.  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and eth1 both have the same mac address listed after a fresh install keeping eth1 from coming up correctly.  
19:01 <@Evilpig> what can cause that?
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19:03 < aestetix> Aaaaand shanley just lost all credibility.
19:03 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/Nero/status/556236433414189056
19:03 < PigBot`> Title: Milo Yiannopoulos on Twitter: "I’m already getting abusive texts and phone calls to my private phone number from @shanley’s followers. https://t.co/Qwl1lrF1gu" (at twitter.com)
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19:11 <@Evilpig> aestetix: after reading this I don't see where she had any to begin it. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/10/the-madness-of-queen-shanley/
19:11 < PigBot`> Title: The Madness Of Queen Shanley - Breitbart (at www.breitbart.com)
19:12 < aestetix> xoh wow
19:14 <@Evilpig> if I didn't know better i'd swear this bitch was another face of crazypants
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19:31 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig; bad udev persistent rule?
19:31 <@Bahhumbug> Let me finish eating and I'll dig up the details.
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19:59 < aestetix> Evilpig: this is why I am confused
19:59 < aestetix> https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/OpenVPNBridging
19:59 < PigBot`> Title: OpenVPNBridging – OpenVPN Community (at community.openvpn.net)
19:59 < aestetix> nvm I misread it, jesus
20:06 < aestetix> Evilpig: so if I have br0, I run brctl addif br0 eth0 where eth0 is my external IP interface?
20:07 < aestetix> maybe Bahhumbug knwos too
20:07 < aestetix> I want to confirm this before i hose my system (again)
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20:08 <@Bahhumbug> I know nothing
20:08 < aestetix> thanks
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20:10 < aestetix> wow it didn't take down my system :)
20:24 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: ... part of one of these write ups think she would be a girl Dagmar is attracted to at a bar, etc...
20:24 < RangerZ1> "Kane is petite and her style a little gothy—black hair, black clothes, black eyeliner. It was sort of what I’d imagined from her online persona, but also not exactly: After all, she also has a penchant for posting photos of bunnies (she has a pet rabbit named Marzipan) and exclamations about lip gloss that she likes."
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21:06 < RangerZ1> https://nashville.craigslist.org/vgd/4843835241.html
21:06 < PigBot`> Title: Xbox Mods & Flashing Services! Play Backup Copies, With Reviews (at nashville.craigslist.org)
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21:06 < RangerZ1> WOW.....
21:06 < RangerZ1> just... wow...
21:15 < RangerZ1> so anyone familiar with Macs ... 700$ for a mid 2012  - 13" Macbook pro for 700$ ... is that a decent deal?
21:16 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Is this on craigslist?
21:16 < RangerZ1> a full Apple refurb is 900$
21:16 < RangerZ1> nah
21:16 < _NSAKEY> If so, pretty much nothing on craigslist is a good deal.
21:17 < RangerZ1> yeah, the age of CL being a good deal, long past
21:17 < RangerZ1> lol
21:17 < _NSAKEY> The only times I've done ok on craigslist involved free stuff, or the time I bought a video card that was 1 model down from the one I was currently using, so I'd have a spare.
21:18 < _NSAKEY> Oh, and the time I bought an old unix workstation out in Ashland City. That guy sold it and the monitor for only $20. That was a good deal, but there weren't exactly a bunch of people lining up to buy it.
21:19 < _NSAKEY> Most of the rest = overpriced junk.
21:19 < RangerZ1> I bought a p3 computer for 60$ back in like 2003 or something
21:20 < RangerZ1> used it as a backup fileserver for years
21:21 < _NSAKEY> I've dealt with so much ancient stuff that now I'm picky.
21:22 < RangerZ1> then I bought a laptop off a friend for 50$ who bought it off CL for 40$ ... and then cleaned it up (took days of windex/bleach/flamethrower... to get the crud off of)
21:22 < _NSAKEY> If it's not reasonably new, it doesn't get considered.
21:22 < RangerZ1> but it was a relatively new ibm thinkpad
21:22 < RangerZ1> just was treated like trash
21:22 < _NSAKEY> Some guy had a server that was new in 2009 or so for around $500.
21:22 < _NSAKEY> The specs on it were good enough for me to consider it as a cracking rig, but then I got to reading about the exotic motherboard in it.
21:23 < _NSAKEY> By all indications, it was one of those boards that would flake out if you looked at it funny, and I was planning on eventually stuffing multiple GPUs in it.
21:23 < RangerZ1> I spent a good week cleaning it up and gave it to my ex for x-mas b/c she had broken her old one... she couldn't play games on it... but it played video, could view the web, and had wireless, etc... so she could write reports, etc....  She cried when she opened it, she couldn't believe it, hehe
21:24 < _NSAKEY> Haha.
21:24 < _NSAKEY> Reminds me of this ancient dell laptop I once rescued and used until it died.
21:24 < RangerZ1> her family/friends thought I was able to do black magic
21:24 < RangerZ1> hehe
21:24 < _NSAKEY> This was in 2010/2011. I forget the model number, but it had a 1 GHz P3 and 256 MB of RAM.
21:25 < RangerZ1> yeah
21:25 < _NSAKEY> That represented my first and only experience of installing FreeBSD with a GUI hat didn't involve cheating wtih PC-BSD.
21:25 < RangerZ1> also... speaking of
21:25 < RangerZ1> the "used music gear" stores are a fucking joke here
21:25 < _NSAKEY> It was good enough to run Xcfe and chromium, and so I used it as a means of browsing sites while laying in bed.
21:25 < RangerZ1> they were charging the same price for used gear, as new off of amazon
21:26 < _NSAKEY> Pretty much all stores as a joke around here.
21:26 < RangerZ1> I went looking for a mixer board and some mics
21:26 < _NSAKEY> For example, I had to go to Staples last night. On a whim, I browsed the aisle with the external hard drives, since my space is getting kind of tight.
21:26 < RangerZ1> and they acted like I was a martian
21:26 < _NSAKEY> They had display boxes for 4TB drives... but they had this big sticker on them that basically said, "ONLINE ONLY HAHAHAHAHA"
21:26 < RangerZ1> b/c I wasn't trying to do DJing
21:27 < RangerZ1> I was like... wait.. what...
21:27 < RangerZ1> and wtf...
21:27 < RangerZ1> Only only...
21:27 < RangerZ1> ONLINE?
21:27 < _NSAKEY> Why would a retail store waste shelf space on those boxes, only to tell you that it can only be had online.
21:27 < _NSAKEY> Yes.
21:27 < RangerZ1> B&M stores have _ONE_ fucking advantage over amazon
21:27 < _NSAKEY> I even took a picture and tweeted it.
21:27 < RangerZ1> you can pick it up and walk out the store
21:27 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/_NSAKEY/status/555875387675136000
21:27 < PigBot`> Title: _NSAKEY on Twitter: "Put the crack pipe down, Staples. Even Radio Shack isnt this tone deaf. http://t.co/0jN9polFqn" (at twitter.com)
21:28 < _NSAKEY> I also signed up for a "rewards" card again.
21:28 < _NSAKEY> Instead of getting a proper keychain card like you do everywhere else, they give you this thin piece of plastic that looks like a temporary card, except it isn't.
21:28 < _NSAKEY> I told the girl who explained that, "Good to see that the MBAs are ensuring the health of the executive cocaine and hookers fund."
21:29 < _NSAKEY> They also close at 7 PM now, because reasons.
21:30 < RangerZ1> jeeze...
21:30 < RangerZ1> if they wanted _business_ they would have a 24hr store
21:30 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, tell me that place isn't swirling down the drain.
21:31 < RangerZ1> just have a window
21:31 < RangerZ1> "you need -this- ? "
21:31 < _NSAKEY> They ripped my father off a few years back on a computer they sold him.
21:31 < _NSAKEY> The hard drive died within warranty.
21:31 < RangerZ1> hell, that makes circuit city look decent
21:31 < _NSAKEY> HP's warranty at the time was basically, "We ship you a new drive, you ship the old one back and if you don't we zap your CC for the balance."
21:32 < _NSAKEY> They lied to him to get him to buy a drive through them and he paid another $150 for them to have one of their apes install it, but not before said ape tried redoing the Windows install on the known bad drive.
21:32 < _NSAKEY> Because again, reasons.
21:32 < RangerZ1> ugh
21:32 < _NSAKEY> All told, he gave them $250 because he believed some sales drone over me.
21:36 < _NSAKEY> The geek squad is pretty low tier, but that guy proved to me that staples eztechs aren't even good enough to pass screwdrivers.
21:39 < RangerZ1> you only need an A+ cert to get in
21:40 < RangerZ1> I was scouted when they first started up
21:40 < aestetix> how hard is the A+?
21:40 < aestetix> I almost took the test in like 1998
21:40 < RangerZ1> its updated
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21:40 < aestetix> I read one of those beefy books
21:40 < aestetix> learned a lot
21:40 < RangerZ1> same
21:40 < RangerZ1> in like 2003
21:40 < RangerZ1> lol
21:40 < RangerZ1> i read the network+ book too
21:41 < RangerZ1> much smaller actually
21:41 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Staples didn't even have A+ techs.
21:41 < RangerZ1> thats what I read to prep for a job at the networking support job I had for years
21:42 < _NSAKEY> When I was telling the stooge doing the work (In front of his manager and my father) that he was retarded, I asked what certs he had in order to be "certified" as their advertising suggested.
21:42 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: that 3ds I just bought was online only and I had to go into the fucking store to buy it
21:42 <@Evilpig> that was the most bizare shit ever
21:42 < _NSAKEY> Neither him nor the manager had an answer.
21:42 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: gamestop is a doomed fucking company
21:43 < RangerZ1> i feel bad for it, but it changed so much when it bought funcoland
21:43 < RangerZ1> focused too much on used games
21:43 < _NSAKEY> Funcoland was amazing.
21:43 < RangerZ1> I worked at both (after gamestop bought funco)
21:43 < RangerZ1> best part of that job...
21:44 < RangerZ1> my boss at the time answering the email from the CEO on our "thoughts" about the 'merger'
21:44 < _NSAKEY> I think the only good retro games store left in the midstate is probably Geeks, Etc. in Tullahoma.
21:44 < RangerZ1> his entire email "If you can't beat them... buy them."
21:44 < _NSAKEY> Hahahaha.
21:44 <@Evilpig> oh man... speaking of corp email. I got one from the mothership yesterday. they are shutting down the ESPP
21:44 <@Evilpig> My stock purchase in feb will be the last one
21:44 < RangerZ1> ESPP?
21:45 < RangerZ1> OHh
21:45 <@Evilpig> employee stock purchase program
21:45 < aestetix> Are they replacing it with pensions?
21:45 < RangerZ1> b/c that was the 'replacement' for pensions....
21:45 < aestetix> right
21:45 <@Evilpig> Sharing some news about recent changes to the Employee Stock Purchase Program (ESPP). Yahoo has re-evaluated their equity program and ultimately decided to discontinue ESPP. 
21:45 <@Evilpig> If you've never enrolled in ESPP or were hired after 10/15/14, then you can ignore. Thanks for opening this email though!  
21:45 <@Evilpig> If you are currently allocating funds to ESPP, pay attention to the following:
21:45 <@Evilpig> The final purchase date will be February 10, 2015 and you'll see purchased shares in your E*trade account soon thereafter. 
21:45 <@Evilpig>     Any left over balances in your account after the 2/10 purchase date will be refunded in your paycheck.
21:45 <@Evilpig>     Your E*trade account will remain active, it is yours to keep and will house equity tax forms and other important notices. 
21:46 <@Evilpig> It's a bummer to see Yahoo let this program go, but they've made this decision so they can expand their equity budget for employees
21:46 <@Evilpig> so I have no idea what it means for me yet, but that was a hella nice perk
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21:47 < RangerZ1> corp speak translate = "equity budget for employees" ?
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21:47 <@Evilpig> that's their compensation budget, raises, bonuses, etc
21:47 < aestetix> Evilpig: you should send that memo to techcrunch
21:47 <@Evilpig> I'm not gonna be responsible for leaking that
21:47 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: but do YOU get those bonuses?
21:47 <@Evilpig> I do
21:47 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Too late. You already did.
21:48 <@Evilpig> I let out a few lines in a log.  if one of you asses combines them and releases that would be kinda shitty
21:48 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I'm not saying that anyone here would do that, but you did already sort of leak the information.
21:50 < _NSAKEY> Granted, that sort of thing is going to become public anyway.
21:50 < aestetix> that's a really big deal
21:50 < _NSAKEY> It's not like you dumped links to the payroll database in this channel.
21:50 < aestetix> I wonder if Yahoo is having issues.
21:51 <@Evilpig> Yahoo is not having issues.  they're doing very well actually
21:51 < RangerZ1> their issue is that they want to make content
21:51 < RangerZ1> -_-
21:51 <@Evilpig> I'm sure whatever replaces it will be just as nice just different
21:51 < aestetix> Evilpig: that doesn't make sense.
21:51 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Given the fact that the Ali Baba investment is Yahoo's main reason for not being underwater... I'd say so.
21:51 < aestetix> If the company is doing well, wouldn't you want to allow employees to be part owners?
21:51 < RangerZ1> also, the company now has all the Mozilla Traffic
21:52 < aestetix> Even if that ownership is 0.000000001%
21:52 < RangerZ1> aestetix: stop being a fucking german
21:52 < RangerZ1> lol
21:52 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Maybe they expect such a good turn-around that they don't WANT employees to be invested, and get lazy?
21:52 < _NSAKEY> Maybe a sale is pending.
21:52 < aestetix> RangerZ1: my point is, what incentive could they offer to replace the ESPP
21:52 < RangerZ1> german corps have ~1/4 leadership from the unions
21:53 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: If they start wanting to buy your stock back, expect them to get acquired.
21:53 < RangerZ1> aestetix: just a one-time pay out
21:53 < RangerZ1> easy
21:53 <@Evilpig> I don't own enough for them to really care about my shares
21:54 <@Bahhumbug> stock options can be nice when they're worth something, even partially vested.
21:55 <@Bahhumbug> Verio was kind enough to continue giving me options to keep me employed until I had enough to afford to _comfortably_ take two+ years off.
21:57 < RangerZ1> thankfully I never signed up for the 401k at the call center job
21:58 < RangerZ1> because it kept me from having "assets"when vandy considered my student aid, lol
21:58 < RangerZ1> plus... I'm sure it would have been stolen from me b/c of how bad the company was ran, lol
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22:15 < _NSAKEY> Does anyone here have experience with pf?
22:16 <@Evilpig> long time ago
22:16 < _NSAKEY> Ok, my sample rule is this:
22:16 < _NSAKEY> pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to ($ext_if) port 22
22:17 < _NSAKEY> The box will have IPv6 support.
22:17 < _NSAKEY> Can I just s/inet/all/ and have it work for both, or do I need separate rules?
22:17 <@Evilpig> pretty sure you need rules for both
22:17 < _NSAKEY> That's what I thought.
22:17 <@Evilpig> Mirage would be a good one to ask cause he uses openbsd as his firewall
22:17 <@Evilpig> pf and openbsd both use the same fw stuff
22:22 < RangerZ1> holy shit....
22:22 < RangerZ1> http://www.tennessean.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/01/15/charlie-hebdo-attacks-prove-critics-right-islam/21809599/
22:22 < PigBot`> Title: Charlie Hebdo attacks prove critics were right about Islam (at www.tennessean.com)
22:23 < RangerZ1> Vandy students are apparently PISSED about this... b/c she's a law prof at Vandy
22:23 < RangerZ1> https://www.facebook.com/profcarolmswain
22:23 < PigBot`> Title: Professor Carol M. Swain, Ph.D. (at www.facebook.com)
22:24 < RangerZ1> but it looks like she's the type to feed of people not liking her POVs
22:25 < aestetix> rather than people liking her PIVs?
22:26 < RangerZ1> The Dean of Students just had to send out an email addressing it, and basically saying "we don't agree, but we can't say that... so please feel safe at vandy, and ignore this shit"
22:31 <@Bahhumbug> I will just leave this here... https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/46122371/introducing-toleranux-worlds-first-tolerant
22:31 < PigBot`> Title: /g/ - Introducing ToleranUX, worlds first Tolerant UNIX-like kernel --- Thread #2 - Technology - 4chan (at boards.4chan.org)
22:33 <@Evilpig> damn bots...
22:33 <@Evilpig> [Fri Jan 16 22:32:36 2015] [error] [client 209.213.104.25] File does not exist: /var/www/html/Fckeditor
22:33 <@Evilpig> [Fri Jan 16 22:32:36 2015] [error] [client 209.213.104.25] File does not exist: /var/www/html/FCKeditor
22:33 <@Evilpig> [Fri Jan 16 22:32:36 2015] [error] [client 209.213.104.25] File does not exist: /var/www/html/Admin
22:33 <@Evilpig> [Fri Jan 16 22:32:39 2015] [error] [client 209.213.104.25] File does not exist: /var/www/html/Admin
22:33 <@Evilpig> [Fri Jan 16 22:32:40 2015] [error] [client 209.213.104.25] File does not exist: /var/www/html/Editor
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22:35 < aestetix> they should really use vim
22:37 < RangerZ1> lol
22:39 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: I think that link got lost int he pig-spam
22:39 < RangerZ1> but wow...
22:39 < RangerZ1> yeah... just best to leave that there....
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22:40  * aestetix misses Corydon
22:48 < aestetix> is anyone else in here shameless
22:48 < RangerZ1> yes, but not when you ask
22:49 < RangerZ1> lol
22:49 -!- aestetix is now known as not_aestetix
22:49 < not_aestetix> is anyone else in here shameless?
22:50 < RangerZ1> NotLarry: is Larry?
22:50 -!- not_aestetix is now known as aestetix
22:55 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.angryduck.com/pics/hardest_part.htm
22:55 < PigBot`> Title: hardest part (at www.angryduck.com)
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23:19 < RangerZ1> wait... "As a general rule, software bought for business use must be depreciated over a 36-month period, but there are some important exceptions"
23:19 < RangerZ1> interesting....
23:26 < RangerZ1> hahaha https://nashville.craigslist.org/vgm/4846531378.html someone tried to be a 'streamer' and failed hard
23:26 < PigBot`> Title: PS4 With 15 Games/Elgato Capture card (at nashville.craigslist.org)
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23:30 <@Evilpig> RangerZ1: that just screams scam.  "it comes with 15 games on _my_ account"
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23:55 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: yeah, but people are stupid, they think you can do that
23:55 < RangerZ1> they 'give' the account
23:55 < RangerZ1> sorry "sell"
23:55 < RangerZ1> hell their TOS doesn't even allow that, so the buyer can't complain
23:55 < RangerZ1> lol
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