--- Log opened Thu Jan 15 00:00:05 2015
00:01 <@Dagmar> ..and the Japanese can be foward about things like that because they're still having negative population growth.
00:01 <@Dagmar> Sometimes the people need a bit of "encouragement".
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00:01 < RangerZ1> the 'soap houses' often include blow up pool lounge inflatables, lube, and bikinis
00:01 < RangerZ1> My guess is that these are the 2nd type of 'cafe' that we get in the USA after the now existing ... cat cafes, lol
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00:03 <@Dagmar> LOL http://xkcd.com/1473/
00:03 < PigBot> Title: xkcd: Location Sharing (at xkcd.com)
00:05 < RangerZ1> lol
00:07 < RangerZ1> I'm surprised he didn't make it the "porn hub app" asking for that info...
00:07 < RangerZ1> hehe
00:10 < RangerZ1> hell... the underground arms dealer who sold the RPG (not the fun japanese or crap western ones, but Rocket ones) and the AKs ... turned himself in... because he was afraid of retribution from ISIS/alquida
00:12 < RangerZ1> b/c he 'swindled' them , hehehe
00:30 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: I read up on Trafficant back during his 2nd trial
00:30 < _NSAKEY> Wasn't he a sheriff the first time the feds went after him?
00:39 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Just got a renewal notice for my NRA membership.  It says I should give memberships to friends.  I'm assuming you'd like one?
00:40 <@oddball> One year membership gets you a nifty NRA hat!
01:31 < aestetix> If you have a stomacheache, and unbutton and suddenly feel better, does that mean you're getting fat?
01:47 <@Dagmar> I TYPED A LINE OF JAVA AND THE IDE DIDN'T CUSS AT ME EVEN ONCE!
01:57 <@Dagmar> ...now to see if it makes the phone burst into flames.
01:59 <@Dagmar> jesus it worked
01:59 <@Dagmar> This is going to be easier than I thought
02:04 < RangerZ> oddball: I -do- own a rifle, but I won't join the National Riflemaker's Association, ;) They don't stand for the type of responsible gun ownership that I support.
02:04 < RangerZ> I think there should be a 5000$ tax put on each bullet
02:04 < RangerZ> we'd end all shooting deaths in the USA that way ;)
02:05 < RangerZ> except like 4 a year....
02:05 < RangerZ> do you hate him enough to spend 50k on 10 bullets ?
02:05 < RangerZ> hehehe
02:07 <@Dagmar> IT DID IT AGAIN!
02:07 <@Dagmar> I went through about an hour there with Android Studio singing "fuck you I won't do what you tell me!"
02:12 < RangerZ> are you dating?
02:12 < RangerZ> lol
02:14 <@Dagmar> Now to do the reciever thing to turn up the frequency of updates
02:22 < RangerZ> what are you actually doing?
02:23 < RangerZ> don't want to 'over-use' broadcast recievers
02:23 <@Dagmar> Making this thing actually tick
02:23 <@Dagmar> It's the only way to get a widget to update every second
02:24 < RangerZ> can't use a service?
02:24 <@Dagmar> I might actually -be- using a service
02:24 <@Dagmar> It's not like I have any idea what I'm doing
02:24 <@Dagmar> I'm looking at http://javatechig.com/android/repeat-alarm-example-in-android presently
02:24 < PigBot> Title: Repeat Alarm Example In Android Using AlarmManager | Javatechig (at javatechig.com)
02:25 <@Dagmar> ...and contrasting it with http://code4reference.com/2012/07/android-homescreen-widget-with-alarmmanager/
02:25 < PigBot> Title: Code4ReferenceTutorial on Android widget with Alarmmanager (at code4reference.com)
02:28 <@Dagmar> Of course, in the latter it appears the guy is updating every three seconds instead of every one as described
02:33 <@Dagmar> Now that I've found the code I need for that, it's time to set some digits.
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02:36 < RangerZ2> AHH ok
02:38 < RangerZ2> no, you're not -writing- a service
02:38 < RangerZ2> you're -using- a -manager-
02:38 < RangerZ2> (thats kinda what systemD is trying to be the 'service manager')
02:39 < RangerZ2> but if thats the case... why not use android's _complete_ solutions to do that
02:39 < RangerZ2> b/c the -binder framework- is already being incorporated into the kernel itself
02:41 < RangerZ2> because android's solutions DO adhere to unix principles, each one thing well
02:41 < RangerZ2> etc
02:55 <@Dagmar> error: incompatible types: possible lossy conversion from long to int
02:55  * Dagmar gives AS the finger
02:56  * Dagmar sprinkles some (int) (long) around
02:56 <@Dagmar> If I did this right, the thing will populate the correct value every half hour at this point
02:57 <@Dagmar> Assuming time remains contiguous I shoudn't need any fancy checks
02:57 <@Dagmar> very disappointing that switch can't handle long
02:58 <@Dagmar> oh wait
02:59 <@Dagmar> I probably shouldn't bother reserving a long for a value that I know will be less than even 255.
02:59 <@Dagmar> *Now* it'll probably crack my screen at least.  Let's see
03:03 <@Dagmar> Hm... It mostly works
03:11 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: yeah, no use in using long for that
03:11 < RangerZ2> BUT if you use long, you 'can' pass time/etc
03:11 < RangerZ2> since java ... 7 or 8 you can even switch on String, which is nice
03:14 <@Dagmar> Whoa whoa let's not get crazy now
03:16 <@Dagmar> ...and behold it gives the right answer now at least.
03:16 <@Dagmar> http://dagmar.isamotherfucking.ninja/~dagmar/SepticlockWidget/app-release.apk
03:17 < aestetix> http://video.foxnews.com/v/3990099218001/is-obamas-college-tuition-plan-worth-the-60b-price-tag/?#sp=show-clips
03:17 < PigBot> Title: Is Obama's college tuition plan worth the $60B price tag? | On Air Videos | Fox News (at video.foxnews.com)
03:17 < aestetix> Sean Hannity was a fucking asshole to a young college democrat
03:17 <@Dagmar> s/was/is/; s/to a .*//;
03:20 < aestetix> That video is so malicious it makes me want to call for him to resign.
03:26 <@Dagmar> Hunt and skin him perhaps?
03:26 < aestetix> How about cutting off his eyelids and tongue
03:27 <@Dagmar> I don't know why you'd expect Hannity to be anything but a complete tosser
03:27 <@Dagmar> He's just a propaganda monkey
03:28 <@Dagmar> ...and he just essentially made the assumption that all Community Colleges are "failing"
03:28 <@Dagmar> ...but the real key here is that the people pulling his strings are furious that this gives people an out from becoming an involuntary member of the New Slave class.
03:29 <@Dagmar> They're _livid_ about the debt forgiveness, but they just don't want to admit it.
03:29 <@Dagmar> ...because there are a shitton of people who are spending much more than 10-20 years trying to pay off their student loans.
03:29 <@Dagmar> I like how they've got a second tool on the show so they can claim they werne't biased or some shit
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03:30 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Fox News tends to do that.
03:30 <@Dagmar> I have an idea.  Let's cut the Debt of Defense budget by 5% and tripling the Department of Education's budget, which will easily pay for all of that.
03:30 <@Dagmar> Five percent.
03:30 < _NSAKEY> I recall back when Glenn Beck was regularly in the news for taking over afternoon ratings, he had someone on to talk about Net Neutrality.
03:31 < _NSAKEY> The random guy summed it up with, "It's socialism," and there wasn't really any debate.
03:35 <@Dagmar> loool http://actuallyshipyourenemiesglitter.tumblr.com/
03:35 < PigBot> Title: We Will ACTUALLY Ship Your Enemies Glitter (at actuallyshipyourenemiesglitter.tumblr.com)
03:35 < aestetix> What's Sean Hannity's address?
03:36 <@Dagmar> imadick@fox.com
03:37 < aestetix> http://www.fanmail.biz/77276.html
03:37 < PigBot> Title: Sean Hannity Address (at www.fanmail.biz)
03:37 < aestetix> I'm sending Sean Hannity some glitter
03:39 <@Dagmar> This is a good plan
03:39 <@Dagmar> The sad thing is, I acutally thought about picking up the torch on that myself
03:39 <@Dagmar> What stopped me is that I have *no* idea where to get lots and lots of glitter from around here.
03:40 <@Dagmar> Could I sit here and stuff envelopes with a sheet of paper and a handful of glitter all day for $10 per?
03:40 <@Dagmar> ABSOLUTELY
03:40 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: You would probably have to bulk order it.
03:40 <@Dagmar> Well... from the _balcony_ anyway.
03:40 < _NSAKEY> I imagine there's some distributor that sells it in multi-pound boxes.
03:41 <@Dagmar> If this were San Francisco I'd also have to go post notices around the condoplex informing citizens that they may be exposed to small amounts of glitter.
03:41 < _NSAKEY> http://www.bulkglitters.com/25lb-boxes/
03:41 < PigBot> Title: 25 Pound Boxes of Craft Glitter (at www.bulkglitters.com)
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03:46 < aestetix> Ok, one shipment of glitter ordered for Sean Hannity.
03:46 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You are going directly to jail.
03:47 < _NSAKEY> Turn yourself in at the nearest FBI field office and save them some time.
03:58 < aestetix> Dagmar: is there a Michael's near you?
03:58 <@Dagmar> Yeah
03:58 < aestetix> There you go.
03:58 < aestetix> Buy them out of glitter.
03:58 < aestetix> While reassuring them you're not gay :p
03:59 <@Dagmar> Yeah and _then_ what
03:59 <@Dagmar> There's only two of them in town
03:59 <@Dagmar> In a few days, I'll be standing outside of tween clubs begging for spare glitter
03:59 < aestetix> Maybe you'll run into NotLarry
04:11 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: Did you actually send Hannity a bag of glitter?
04:21 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: You can see why I was wondering WTF the guy would walk away from all that money
04:21 <@Dagmar> ...becuase unlike poop, there's no law making it illegal to send someone glitter without their knowlede.
04:21 <@Dagmar> er knowlege
04:23 < _NSAKEY> I imagine it's more like, "We'll go after you with anti-harassment statutes for doing this," but glitter is probably considered a lot less menacing than a box of dried turds.
05:03 < RangerZ1> just tell the judge, "your honor, I thought it would make him more (strike pose) FABULOUS!!"
05:04 <@Dagmar> Now I just have to figure out how to call septicyclewidget.onUpdate from within the reciever
05:06 < RangerZ1> you don't
05:06 < RangerZ1> you trigger it
05:07 <@Dagmar> How?
05:07 <@Dagmar> Shoudlnt' it be happening with onRecieve?
05:07 < RangerZ1> https://developer.android.com/reference/android/appwidget/AppWidgetProvider.html#onUpdate(android.content.Context, android.appwidget.AppWidgetManager, int[])
05:07 < PigBot> Title: AppWidgetProvider | Android Developers (at developer.android.com)
05:07 < RangerZ1> Called in response to the ACTION_APPWIDGET_UPDATE and ACTION_APPWIDGET_RESTORED broadcasts when this AppWidget provider is being asked to provide RemoteViews for a set of AppWidgets. Override this method to implement your own AppWidget functionality.
05:08 < RangerZ1> so you send off an intent
05:08 < RangerZ1> to trigger the reciever
05:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah I have the stuff that ties to the reiever
05:09 <@Dagmar> the setRepeating bit is happening during onEnabled from the widget class
05:09 <@Dagmar> ...as well as the matching cancel in onDisabled
05:09 <@Dagmar> I guess I can update the widgets from the reciever
05:09 <@Dagmar> That just seems improper somehow
05:10 <@Dagmar> ...mainly because it's already defined by a somewhat convoluted call in onUpdate
05:10 <@Dagmar> onUpdate walks the instances of the widget, calling updateAppWidget on each of them
05:11 <@Dagmar> ...adn it seems to me if I invoke *that* from the reciever it should "just work"
05:16 <@Dagmar> *derp* SepticlockWidget.updateAppWidget(context, appWidgetManager, appWidgetIds[i]);
05:16 <@Dagmar> It'll probably work.
05:17 <@Dagmar> Well... it compiled.
05:17 <@Dagmar> Let's see how badly it breaks the phone
05:19 <@Dagmar> no wait...
05:19 <@Dagmar> IT BUILDS!  SHIP IT!
05:20 <@Dagmar> Well... poop.
05:21 <@Dagmar> It doesn't work but at leat it doesn't crash everything
05:27 < RangerZ1> have you learned how to use log?
05:29 < RangerZ1> logcat lets you easily check events, etc
05:30 <@Dagmar> Noe
05:30 <@Dagmar> I just moved onRecieve into the main class
05:31 <@Dagmar> Hokay.  One more time
05:32 <@Dagmar> Let's see if it updates more than once
05:32 <@Dagmar> !@#!@#!
05:32 <@Dagmar> Lemme go over the alarmManager docs once more
05:50 < RangerZ1> welcome to Android ;)
07:41 <@Dagmar> WHY DOES THIS SHIT ALWAYS START WORKING AT DAWN WHEN I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM TYPING ANYMORE
07:50 <@Dagmar> Entertainingly, I now know that the timer I'm replaing has an off-by-one error
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08:58 < Synx|hm> happy monday
08:58 < Synx|hm> oh its thursday wtf
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10:04 <@benthemeek> I realized something catching up on xkcd... I think aestetix is the closest living embodiment to the guy with the hat in the comic.. Like I read the comic and this the guy speaks in his voice.
10:05  * benthemeek stops pondering and goes back to work
10:06 <@benthemeek> He just sort of trolls reality for everyone else..
10:23 <@Dickie> Man, you guys just keep feeding him.
10:23 <@Dickie> "And they say his ego grew three sizes that day"
10:31 < Synx|hm> Anybody work at a place that is hiring telecommute systems administrators, voip solutions architects etc?
10:31 <@eryc> send me a resume
10:34 < Synx|hm> eryc: shot you a msg
10:38 <@Mirage> Evilpig_: ping
10:39 <@Dolemite> He's in the middle of having his water heater replaced
10:39 <@Mirage> Who is handling the nashville2600.org registration now?
10:39 <@eryc> Dickie
10:39 <@Mirage> Just got an email from HostMonster informing me that it expires in 59 days.
10:40 <@Dolemite> benthemeek is the sexatary
10:41 < Synx|hm> eryc: sent, thank you for taking a look
10:41 <@Dolemite> he's the one I gave the password to for the other domains
10:41 <@Mirage> Actually, it looks like DNS doesn't point to my hosting anymore...so I officially don't care.
10:42 <@eryc> Synx|hm: np, i can't hire anyone now but in a few months
10:42 <@Dickie> o/
10:42 <@Dolemite> Mirage: How much are you paying for your Hostmonster account?
10:43 < Synx|hm> eryc: no worries, im serious about moving on to something else but still employed and enjoying so its not critical i move on at this very moment
10:43 <@eryc> ah nice
10:44 <@eryc> where are you living?
10:44 <@Mirage> Dolemite: $12/mo base + $3/mo for static IP
10:44 < Synx|hm> eryc: Cane Ridge/Antioch about 20-30min outside Nashville
10:44 <@eryc> cool
10:45 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I've got an SSD based VPS on Digital Ocean with static IP for $10/month...  and thought of you yesterday when they emailed the customers to let them know that they now had FreeBSD VPSs.
10:45 < Synx|hm> im 100% remote plus a bit of travel here and there to deliver training to customers with my current position, but im not against going into an office, just dont want to move out of nashville at the moment ;)
10:45 <@Mirage> Synx|hm: more like 20-30 min from downtown Nashville.
10:46 < Synx|hm> ya i guess thats a better description :)
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10:47 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I haven't actively used FreeBSD in awhile.  Right now I'm running CentOS, OpenBSD, or MythBuntu.
10:48 <@Dolemite> Ah
11:14 < sasquatc4> anyone know how to pull a .o or data portion out of a compiled binary, Im not an objdump guru and rarely use it but Im assuming theres a way to do it since all the symbols exist
11:32 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: yes
11:36 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: you should too.
11:37 <@eryc> sasquatc4: maybe idapro can do it?
11:38 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: actuallyshipyourenemiesglitter.com
11:38 < aestetix> http://actuallyshipyourenemiesglitter.com
11:38 < PigBot> Title: We Will ACTUALLY Ship Your Enemies Glitter (at actuallyshipyourenemiesglitter.com)
11:40 <@eryc> i wonder if congress would appreciate that
11:41 < aestetix> Ted Cruz certainly would.
11:47 < aestetix> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8892587
11:47 < PigBot> Title: But Where Do People Work in This Office? | Hacker News (at news.ycombinator.com)
11:47 < aestetix> So something worth noting about the open office plan
11:47 < aestetix> It totally destroys the idea of personal space
11:51 < sasquatc4> eryc, well tryin to make it quick and simple, some people may have to use this often
11:51 < sasquatc4> i think i managed to almost finish whipping up a prog to do it, just parsing out the locations out of objdump|grep, then just open file and do it myself
12:21 < aestetix> hmm
12:21 < aestetix> if Testiclus is a roman god, I wonder what his greek equivalent is
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13:48 < Evilpig_> I decided.  I'm gonna go drool at lzzy hale in may
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14:21 < aestetix> two questions
14:21 < aestetix> 1. does anyone here use hipchat
14:21 < aestetix> 2. if so, do you  have a clue why they use mysql apparently
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14:52 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Because they built their site and not you
14:57 < aestetix> who the fuck would use mysql for irc
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15:00 <@eryc> what would you use
15:00 <@eryc> oracle 12c?
15:01 < Synx|hm> ms access duh
15:01 < RangerZ> if it is keeping 'buddy lists' itself, then its not silly to use some kind of DB (not for searching, but for good backup)
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15:01 < Synx|hm> can someone tell me why its ungodly expensive to fly nashville to atlanta? $1K round trip for the end of the month
15:02 <@Dagmar> You don't have a weekend stay?
15:02 < Synx|hm> monday am to thurday pm
15:02 <@Dagmar> Yep that would be why
15:03 < Synx|hm> it doesn't cost them any more to fly that route, its their hub!
15:03 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: thats why
15:03 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: they don't care
15:03 <@Dagmar> That's not how the "Fuck Your Ass" pricing model works.
15:03 < Synx|hm> ya lol
15:03 < Synx|hm> i dont really care as its not on my dime but god i hate having to send that bill to the customer
15:04 <@Dagmar> Clearly, you're flying on business, which means they can fuck your employers pocketbook
15:04 <@Dagmar> Push the return date to Sunday and watch the price fall
15:04 < Synx|hm> yup, ala medical industry when you have ins
15:04 <@eryc> how much is southwest
15:04 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: 555$ southwest
15:04 <@eryc> boom
15:04 < Synx|hm> google, bing, and my companys travel agent didn't show SW flights but i should have looked
15:05 <@eryc> SW doesnt list on anything
15:05 < Synx|hm> oh because they have connections probably
15:05 < Synx|hm> ahh
15:05 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: you have to search SW on their site directly
15:05 < Synx|hm> didn't know that, good to know because they fly BNA direct to dallas love
15:05 <@eryc> you should just drive anyway pussy
15:05 < Synx|hm> where my inlaws live
15:06 < Synx|hm> eryc: i just got back from a week and a half trip two days ago where i drove 9 hours each direction
15:06 < RangerZ> also... the flight there stops in.... St. Louis...
15:06 < RangerZ> return flight is direct
15:06 < RangerZ> lol
15:06 < Synx|hm> ive had enough of that for a few months (i do that trip every two months)
15:06 <@Dagmar> lol Marriot backpedaled
15:07 <@Dagmar> A shame, really.  I was looking forward to fatally embarassing them
15:08 < RangerZ> 9$ for mega bus from atlanta to chatt, and 15$ from chat to nashville
15:08 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: on what? the 2.4ghz jamming?
15:08 < RangerZ> so... we've found a winner
15:08 < RangerZ> lol
15:08 <@eryc> yea ride the bus and charge for the flight
15:08 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: jesus man i will not be taking megabus on a business trip
15:08 <@eryc> $540 in your pocket
15:08 <@Dagmar> Synx: Yep
15:08 < RangerZ> not quite "jamming"
15:09 < RangerZ> just.... stopping all other traffic from working
15:09 <@eryc> er, guess its your master's pocket
15:09 < RangerZ> -__-
15:09 < Synx|hm> eryc: lol ill avoid the fruad, or at least wont admit it to you as you have my resume lol
15:09 <@eryc> good policy
15:09 <@eryc> i forwarded it to my VP btw
15:09 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: well that is active jamming no? just not passive barrage jamming most people think of, id say de-authing could be considered jamming in the truest sense
15:09 < Synx|hm> eryc: thank you much!!!
15:10 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: active -packet- flooding isn't against FCC regs
15:10 < RangerZ> lol
15:10 <@oddball> Synx|hm: I believe the FCC agrees with you on that thought.
15:10 < RangerZ> just broadcasting on the 2.4 range randomness... thats a different legal beast entirely
15:11 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: oh, what about denial of service via packet flooding, isn't that not legal?
15:11 < Synx|hm> or crafted packets like deauth
15:11 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: actually it has been argued legally that it is civil disobedience, not a 'crime'
15:12 < Synx|hm> interesting
15:12 <@Dagmar> deauth was what their system was using
15:12 < Synx|hm> time to start flying quads that deauth all of the gaylords own wifi
15:12 < RangerZ> the legal challenge on that ended b/c the gov't dropped the case, rather than set a precedent
15:12 < Synx|hm> actually....
15:13 <@Dagmar> You're not the only one who was ready to descent upon Shopryland with a vengeful heart
15:13 < RangerZ> ever want to get a 'get out of jail free card', just argue something that both big corp and the gov't don't want to have happen if you set a precedent that way... lol
15:13 < Synx|hm> what about this avenue for legal action... some carriers now allow voice over data like VoLTE and Voice over WIFI, activly jamming consumer hotspots could create a 911 denial event and that is big time not legal
15:14 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: my mom has magic jack, and its 911 is that way
15:14 < RangerZ> we could use her as the plaintif
15:14 < RangerZ> lol
15:14 < Synx|hm> see, you mom should goto opry land and then sue the shit out of them
15:14 < Synx|hm> haha
15:14 < RangerZ> she couldn't call 911 to stop us from beating up aestetix
15:14 < Synx|hm> hahaha
15:14 < RangerZ> win win either way
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15:19 < Synx|hm> the digium group on linkedin is a cesspool of make money at home adverts :(
15:20 <@opticron> haha
15:20 < RangerZ> s/the digium group/all groups/
15:20 < RangerZ> lol
15:20 <@oddball> Dolemite: I think you need this: http://www.kegworks.com/brew-cave-walk-in-beer-cooler-kegerator
15:21 < RangerZ> oddball: planning your dream-basement
15:21 < Synx|hm> OMG I MUST HAVE THAT
15:22 <@oddball> And this was clearly made for aestetix: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YX3E7Y/?tag=047-20
15:22 <@oddball> (why yes, I am currently browsing http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/ why do you ask?)
15:22 < PigBot> Title: ThisIsWhyImBroke.com :: The Internets Mall (at www.thisiswhyimbroke.com)
15:23 < Synx|hm> amazon prime has been my undoing
15:23 <@oddball> heh
15:23 < Synx|hm> hahahaha poop soap bars, now thats an idea i wish i had thought of
15:25 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: amazon prime is evil
15:26 < RangerZ> just wait for -same day- delivery
15:26 < RangerZ> *throw money at screen for random purchases*
15:26 < RangerZ> lol
15:32 <@oddball> I keep thinking about getting one of these and building a box around them as a steampunk costume accessory (filled with pie, of course) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055NWNOS/?tag=047-20
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15:38 < RangerZ> oddball: ++
15:38 < RangerZ> i approve, lol
15:39 <@oddball> I've seen other guys do similar.
15:40 < Synx|hm> opticron, just shot you a msg
15:40 < RangerZ> well ... its better than your front option... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkF_OiBvnLg
15:40 < PigBot> Title: The Wine Rack - Push Up Bra & Beverage Reservoir - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:40 <@oddball> heh... yeah.
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16:27 < Synx|hm> anyone having super slow speeds on comcast
16:32 <@Dagmar> DON'T JINX IT
16:32 < Synx|hm> ha
16:33 < Synx|hm> its been solid the entire time ive lived here then this week high latency and just painfully slow
16:33 < Synx|hm> maybe because i filed a bunch of formal complaints against them
16:33 < Synx|hm> and some uncorrectables on channel 1,2,6 of my 8 bonded down stream channels hrm
16:39 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: what you using for DNS servers?
16:39 < Synx|hm> i did some dns benching and the comcast 75 server was quite a bit faster than google
16:40 <@Dagmar> I use my own.
16:40 < Synx|hm> your own forwarder or caching resolver?
16:40 <@Dagmar> I'm not even going to guess at how they break theirs on a semi-regular basis
16:41 <@Dagmar> My own caching resolver, i.e., BIND.
16:41 <@Dagmar> ...because I've got private namespaces over here.
16:41 < Synx|hm> ahh
16:41 <@Dagmar> kung.foo
16:41 < Synx|hm> same
16:41 <@Dagmar> I do NOT use them as forwarders because when their shit breaks, it breaks your shit too
16:42 < Synx|hm> so you have BIND hit the TLD servers and cache instead of use someone like google inbetween?
16:43 <@Dagmar> yes
16:43 < Synx|hm> thats basically what im doing but ive noticed resolution delay since i changed to this setup
16:43 < Synx|hm> and i really want to go dnscrypt
16:43 <@Dagmar> If you're using them as forwarders, that's your problem.
16:43 < Synx|hm> im not, its a caching resolver
16:43 <@Dagmar> Okay then it's just your latency that's the problem then
16:44 < Synx|hm> fun
17:01 < RangerZ2> "World of Warcraft may soon be adding a new free-to-play option, according to datamined files."
17:01 < RangerZ2> LOL
17:01 <@Dagmar> Yech
17:01 <@Dagmar> The people who pay hourly are bad enough
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18:38 < RangerZ|laptop> http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2015/01/after_ducks_drubbed_oregon_sen.html
18:38 < RangerZ|laptop> hahaha
18:38 < PigBot`> Title: After Ducks drubbed, Oregon senators pay off bet to Ohio colleagues | OregonLive.com (at www.oregonlive.com)
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19:05 < RangerZ> aestetix: also, I just heard Obama say "get the transcript", it was an instruction to Romney, not him asking the moderator for it
19:05 < RangerZ> lol
19:10 < aestetix> oh interesting
19:10 < aestetix> I hadn't considered that
19:10 < RangerZ> possibly more to the audience too
19:10 < RangerZ> but still
19:10 < RangerZ> romney basically 'begged' her to correct him
19:11 < RangerZ> b/c romney kept being an ass about it
19:11 < RangerZ> lol
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19:16 < RangerZ> who here makes websites?
19:17 < RangerZ> not -can-, but -does- ? ;)
19:17 < RangerZ> b/c we all 'can'
19:22 <@Bahhumbug> Talk to the people that did the PN website.
19:28 < RangerZ> yeah...
19:28 < RangerZ> hell
19:28 < RangerZ> maybe
19:28 < RangerZ> they at least have done everything wrong now
19:28 < RangerZ> maybe they learned from it
19:28 < RangerZ> lol
20:15 < RangerZ> ohhh... thats surprising... this wasn't Dagmar at Opryland http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/activist-pulls-off-clever-wi-fi-honeypot-to-protest-surveillance-state/
20:15 < PigBot`> Title: Activist pulls off clever Wi-Fi honeypot to protest surveillance state | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
20:15 < RangerZ> lol
20:48 < RangerZ> all 20 actors for the Oscars are white...
20:49 < RangerZ> ...great... promotion fact... but only in The South ;)
20:49 < RangerZ> lol
20:52 < aestetix> http://www.wired.com/2015/01/president-obama-waging-war-hackers/
20:52 < PigBot`> Title: President Obama Is Waging a War on Hackers | WIRED (at www.wired.com)
21:18 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Does this mean we're all criminals now?
21:22 < aestetix> yes
21:24 < RangerZ> nope, I 'can' get legal protections
21:24 < RangerZ> I just need the univ. to say i'm doing research
21:24 < RangerZ> lol
21:24 < RangerZ> (DMCA actually works that way... but we'll see about the new law FUCKYOU2015)
21:25 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: That doesn't help the rest of us, unless some elaborate paperwork forgery is done.
21:25 < RangerZ> oh well
21:25 < RangerZ> ;)
21:25 < RangerZ> lol
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21:26 < aestetix> I'm really not quite sure what these laws are trying to prevent
21:26 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: They're trying to prevent another weev from happening.
21:27 < aestetix> By making it easier to put people in jail?
21:28 < aestetix> Maybe this is affirmative action for prisons. They want to get a bunch of young white guys in there with the black guys
21:28 < _NSAKEY> Yeah. They just have to remember to not mess up the venue, and they'll be able to persecute anyone they want.
21:29 < _NSAKEY> As if openly supporting prosecutors who have a track record of driving hacking defendants to suicide wasn't bad enough...
21:41 < RangerZ> ohh... it gets evne worse... the cops who killed the kid in cleveland... The one who shot... was fired from Independence Ohio... (thats saying something) and the other officer.... punched a woman who called to get her car towed... and Cleveland had to pay 100k to the woman...
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21:43 < RangerZ> and the 911 dispatcher was fired from another city ...for more BS....
21:43 < RangerZ> its like jesus christ... wtf is going on in Cleveland
21:51 < aestetix> RangerZ: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/01/15/rand-paul-im-a-judicial-activist/
21:51 < PigBot`> Title: Rand Paul: Im a judicial activist. - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com)
21:53 < RangerZ> of course
21:53 < RangerZ> the republicans have been doing that since 1976
21:53 < RangerZ> if not longer
21:53 < RangerZ> when they gave corps "personhood"
21:54 < RangerZ> and then that corps can give to political campaigns
21:54 < RangerZ> in 197....8?
21:54 < aestetix> watch the speech
21:54 < RangerZ> too long for right now
21:54 < RangerZ> will later
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23:22 < RangerZ|laptop> ok... odd question... but did google get rid of controls on -who- can message you over google hangouts?
23:23 < RangerZ|laptop> I can't seem to find it
23:38 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/_NSAKEY/status/555875387675136000
23:38 < PigBot`> Title: _NSAKEY on Twitter: "Put the crack pipe down, Staples. Even Radio Shack isnt this tone deaf. http://t.co/0jN9polFqn" (at twitter.com)
23:38 < _NSAKEY> Why would a store have a placeholder box for a big ticket item that says that the item is only available online?
23:38 < _NSAKEY> Either stock it or quit getting my hopes up.
23:39 < RangerZ|laptop> aestetix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kzV3V9Kew4 incase you wanted to see it
23:39 < PigBot`> Title: Hilarious Flashback: The Moment Mitt Romney Thought He Had Obama on Benghazi - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:56 < aestetix> ok
23:58 < aestetix> See I viewed that as Obama giving her an order.
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