--- Log opened Wed Jan 14 00:00:04 2015
00:00 <@Dagmar> By the way https://github.com/svendvd/Fontinator was the thing I was going to try to use later tonight
00:00 < PigBot> Title: svendvd/Fontinator · GitHub (at github.com)
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00:02 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I still say you'd be dating Nora(crazy girl with Hammer based off Thor) from RWBY, lol
00:03 <@Dagmar> I'm not saying I disagree
00:05 <@Dagmar> fuuuuuu
00:05 <@Dagmar> Apparently Android does not allow extended view definitions in homescreen widgets
00:05 <@Dagmar> Damn I have a shitton of tiny little PNGs to make then
00:06 <@Dagmar> This shit will have to be done _the hard way_
00:07 <@Dagmar> i'm not up for figuring out how to do the workaround of putting them on a canvas and pasting them over
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00:10 <@Dagmar> I suppose the numbers won't dance around too much
00:10 < RangerZ> http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-arabia/saudi-fatwa-banning-snowmen-triggers-heated-debate-1.1439821
00:10 < PigBot> Title: Saudi fatwa banning snowmen triggers heated debate | GulfNews.com (at gulfnews.com)
00:10 < RangerZ> not the onion
00:10 <@Dagmar> Are they afraid someone might make a snow Muhammad?
00:12 < RangerZ> apparently you CAN make Snow Ships and Snow Fruit
00:12 < RangerZ> but not Snow Animals
00:12 < RangerZ> the -idea- of religious rules (fatwa) in this religion seems silly to me
00:13 < RangerZ> b/c as Irish Catholic, we have the god given right to ignore anything the catholic church says
00:13 < RangerZ> LOL
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00:29 < aestetix> Don't irish catholics care more about beer than going to church?
00:41 <@SuMo_D> gulf news.... we used to read that when I was a kid in the middle east... also WTF it doesn't really snow in the kingdom
00:42 <@SuMo_D> I guess they're probably doing some fancy shit like the UAE these days and probably have indoor snow makers or some crazy thing
00:43 <@SuMo_D> and yeah, they have crazy matawha in Saudi enforcing the religious laws, they're more lax depending on the region... they were so so where we lived...
00:43 <@SuMo_D> I got yelled at when I was 10 for wearking koulats in public..
00:43 < _NSAKEY>  /q RangerZ
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01:46 < aestetix> well that sucked
01:47 < aestetix> I bork the networking on a server, call into rackspace, as I am walking the guy into how to fix it, the server reboots.
01:47 < aestetix> Turns out someone picked up the help ticket and  decided to restart it
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02:45 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXQo7nURs0
02:45 < PigBot> Title: Experience the power of a bookbook™ - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:45 < RangerZ> HAHA
02:45 < RangerZ> IKEA trolling apple -hard-
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07:25 <@Dagmar> OMG http://www.lfg.co/tda/strip/48/
07:25 < PigBot> Title: Tiny Dick Adventures � 48 (at www.lfg.co)
07:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:26 <@Dagmar> Aint' nobody got time do day
07:26 <@Dagmar> er fo dat
07:26 <@Dagmar> Too fucking early for a morning
07:26 <@Dolemite> That is such an ironic statement, you have cemented the argument that you are now a hipster
07:27  * Dolemite hands Dagmar a pair of suspenders
07:29 <@Dagmar> Hands Dolemite a nice cold glass of soda with crshed glass.
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08:15 <@opticron> Dagmar, totally works for me
08:15 <@opticron> Et.setTypeface(Typeface.createFromAsset(getApplicationContext().getAssets(), "fonts/font.ttf"));
08:15 <@opticron> where fonts is under assets
08:16 <@opticron> and Et is anything inheriting from textview
08:16 <@opticron> in this case, I'm using edittext
08:19 <@opticron> how are you trying to set it?
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08:50 <@opticron> apparently it can't be done via the xml attributes
08:50 <@opticron> at all
08:50 <@opticron> unless you subclass or use a 3rd party lib
08:51 <@Dagmar> It's simply forbidden
08:51 <@Dagmar> Android is apparently quite serious about look and feel with respect to widgets
08:52 <@Dagmar> Also, that issue with fonts causing memory leakage could easily become an epic mess that would harm the device if imporperly managed.
08:57 <@opticron> is that what you were trying it with? xml attributes?
08:57 <@Dagmar> Sort of.
08:57 <@opticron> there might be ways you can get around it with themes
08:57 <@Dagmar> I am not kidding about the font thing.
08:57 <@Dagmar> I finally found explicit mention that they are disallowed for widgets and only widgets
08:58 <@opticron> huh
08:59 <@Dagmar> So, if I want to use a custom font on a widget, the options amount to writing to a canvas/bitmap and then displaying that, or nothing.
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09:00 <@Dagmar> In this case since I'm mainly doing a clock and an optional single word, I'm jsut going to assemble the image out of bitmaps.
09:00 <@opticron> what widgets are you trying to use that don't support setTypeface?
09:01 <@Dagmar> Not use, make.
09:01 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to assemble a special-purpose countdown timer
09:03 <@Dagmar> Considering that I am looking to replace another widget that already does this but fails to support immersion because it doesn't mimic the look for the primary app, the look and feel is being handled first
09:03 <@Dagmar> The actual couhtdown timer bit is really simple
09:06 <@Dagmar> I've just got to wde through creating 60 bitmaps today is all
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09:50 < Synx|hm> i leave for a week and half and first day back wife already hates me
09:55 <@Dickie> Sounds about right.
09:58 < Synx|hm> im exhausted, both emotionally and physically, and i declaired war on my liver so thats a plus
09:58 <@Dagmar> It only fair.
09:59 <@Dagmar> So many people aren't concientious enough to formally declare war.  They simply engage in unsanctioned attacks and expect no one's going to notice.
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10:00 < Synx|hm> ha ya this is full on nuclear war toe to toe with the roosskies, cept its my liver
10:02 < Synx|hm> ugh i listened to more steve gibson on my 9 hour drive yesterday
10:02 < Synx|hm> dont know why i do that to myself
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10:35 < Evilpig_> cockteasing dick holes!
10:35 < Evilpig_> http://www.gamestop.com/consoles/nintendo-new-3ds-xl-majoras-mask-edition/119888
10:35 < PigBot> Title: Nintendo NEW 3DS XL - Majora's Mask Edition for Nintendo 3DS | GameStop (at www.gamestop.com)
10:35 < Evilpig_> so this was just announced.  you can't pre-order on the website like you can all the other versions
10:36 < Evilpig_> I just talked to the local store and she said she has no clue they just heard about it and can't figure it out but she said if it's like the majora's mask collectors edition game it pre-sold out by 4pm the day it was annoucned
10:36 < Evilpig_> so i'm gonna go at lunch and get it.  fuckers!
10:51 <@Dagmar> You've already been able to order it if you're a Nintendo Club person, afaik
10:51 < Evilpig_> I am in the nintendo club and no I haven't been able to
10:51 <@Dagmar> I could swear they were talking about it on Reddit
10:52 < Evilpig_> i'm a mere 10 pts shy of platinum again this year
10:52 <@Dagmar> Oh well
10:52 <@Dagmar> LOL @ Chrome
10:52 < Evilpig_> ?
10:52 <@Dagmar> So like, today there appears a small tab in the upper-right of the browser window frame, showing my name.
10:53 <@Dagmar> ...just in case I might be loggged in as someone else or something
10:53 < Evilpig_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yo639gk223xgl7g/clubnintendostatus.png?dl=0
10:53 < Evilpig_> same here
10:53 <@Dagmar> I *do* like that, but I figure it's only marginally more useful than a persistent icon indicating I'm actually using cloud storage for bookmarks
10:54 <@Dagmar> ...which I have gotten so used to it's not even funny.
10:54 < Evilpig_> I'm not using their cloud storage shit
10:54 <@Dagmar> Dude
10:54 <@Dagmar> Right, so... let's say I'm out somewhere and idly looking at something on my phone and I want to look at it later.
10:54 < Evilpig_> I just don't want my tabs and bookmarks following me from pc to pc directly
10:54 <@Dagmar> ...particularly if I want to look at it on my _desktop_ later
10:54 < Evilpig_> especially between home/work
10:54 <@Dagmar> ...or tablet, or any combination of the vice-versa
10:55 < Evilpig_> I really don't want to be browsing /r/gonewild/ or something and just shut the monitor off to open it at work and be all like "fuck..."
10:55 <@Dagmar> I can just set the bookmark from whatever device I'm on
10:55 <@Dagmar> lol that would be why you use a separate account
10:55 <@Dagmar> Just in case, anything dodgy I have to look at, I Use Firefox with everything stripped out
10:55 < Evilpig_> can't
10:56 < Evilpig_> my work account is a google account
10:56 < Evilpig_> I use it at home for email 
10:56 <@Dagmar> Ah
10:56 < Evilpig_> It's just an easy scenario to make a case for
10:57 <@Dagmar> Still, it's one of the best browser tools to come about in awhile
10:57 < Evilpig_> I see where it can be incredibly useful.  for me personally, no
10:59 < Evilpig_> Dagmar: I bet what you saw on reddit was when the majoras mask collectors edition was announced
10:59 < Evilpig_> I did get a club nintendo email about that and just didn't give a fuck about it.
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11:03 <@Dagmar> With this android font thing, at least now I have an excuse to precisely mock up the cycle countdown timer from the game
11:03 <@shapr> good morning!
11:04 <@Dagmar> "checkpoint" is 23pt font, the time itself is 38pt for XHDPI devices
11:39 < aestetix> fuck
11:39 < aestetix> Facebook for Work
11:39 < aestetix> what a horrible idea
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12:01 <@Dagmar> This is turning out to be a shitton easier with Inkscape than I expected it would be
12:02 <@Dagmar> I thought I was going to have trouble with the crap MDPI resolution items, but no
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12:12 <@shapr> klixa: oh hai! how's life treating you?
12:12 < aestetix> You know, I'm a big fan of obama's community college plan
12:12 < aestetix> Seeing as that's how I went to school :)
12:23 <@klixa> hey shapr , im alright... tired most of the time cause of pregnancy, and lots of headaches for same reason, but other than that ok...you?
12:23 <@shapr> life is exciting, I knit up a nifty mobius scarf in the past three days
12:23 <@shapr> bought an ergodox keyboard from opticron
12:24 <@oddball> Jesus Christ.  I'm *still* running into morons that are using the Travon Martin case as an example of the evils of Stand Your Ground laws.
12:24 <@oddball> Here's a tip, idiots: Stand Your Ground wasn't invoked in that case, you two bit fuck-tards.
12:26 <@klixa> shapr: i just took a month long trip to calirfornia, oregon, arizona...maybne i hsould mention that instead, since its more exciting :P
12:27 <@shapr> that is exciting!
12:27 <@shapr> How much is two-bits anyway?
12:27 <@oddball> 25 cents... I think.
12:28 <@oddball> yep.  25 cents
12:29 <@klixa> shapr: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gd9mpd95m1p741u/IMG_2627.JPG?dl=0
12:29 <@klixa> t hats my baby seeing the ocean for the (well technically second cause we went when she was 3 months old) first time
12:29 <@shapr> klixa: cute!
12:30 <@klixa> shes a dareevil...she ran into the ocean shortly after that at the exact same time tide came in, and it knocked her down, she got soaked...and then tried to run into it and do it again
12:31 <@oddball> klixa: Have to agree.  Cute kid.
12:31 <@oddball> heh
12:33 <@klixa> thanks oddball :)
12:34 <@klixa> this is one of my fav pics of her, at age 8 months... https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfpyv4fjdftzck7/IMG_1117.JPG?dl=0  and after this i will stop posting opics i swar
12:34  * klixa is one of those annoying parents that is all LOOK AT MY KID
12:35 <@oddball> Those are called "parents." :p
12:35 < Synx|hm> so i have a device that has a Cirrus Logic PS7500 32bit arm system on a chip in it
12:35 < Synx|hm> used to be a internet flight weather station
12:36 < Synx|hm> what creative things should i do with this
12:45 <@shapr> how much ram?
12:46 < Synx|hm> not sure yet
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12:47 < Synx|hm> spec sheet says 4MB
12:50 <@shapr> hm, that's pretty small
12:50 < aestetix> klixa: how can you tell whether a baby is cute or ugly?
12:50 < Synx|hm> ya im not sure its correct
12:50 <@shapr> Synx|hm: has a screen?
12:51 < Synx|hm> CL-PS7500FE56QC-C is the marking on the chip
12:51 <@shapr> aestetix: if it came out of your vaina, it's cute
12:51 <@klixa> aestetix: if its your own, you cant...but if its someone else's the same way you can tell if anyone is cute or ugly
12:51 <@klixa> i look back at picd of my baby when she was born, and she looks lke a mutant alien to me now
12:51 < aestetix> all babies look the same to me
12:51 < aestetix> or do you mean if it has a unibrow or something
12:51 < Synx|hm> shapr: no screen but VGA out, ethernet, 56k modem, serial, parallel port, keyboard mouse and audio out
12:51 <@shapr> whoa, that is pretty dang nifty
12:51 <@Dagmar> Lesson learned: Do not name drawables after numbers.
12:52 <@shapr> What OS?
12:52 < Synx|hm> not a clue have not powered it up yet
12:52 < Synx|hm> doesnt have any markings for power :( so im trying to figure that out before i let out the magic smoke
12:52 <@shapr> yeah, good idea
12:54 < aestetix> klixa: how do parents handle it when they walk in on their kids masturbating?
12:54 < aestetix> I can't even imagine
12:56 < sasquatc4> http://www.digchip.com/datasheets/parts/datasheet/096/CL-PS7500FE-pdf.php
12:56 < PigBot> Title: CL-PS7500FE datasheet - System-on-a-chip For Internet Appliance (at www.digchip.com)
12:58 <@klixa> aestetix: they feel shame for their kid being too dumb to lock the door
12:58 < sasquatc4> and since yours has 56 in the name Im gonna assume its the faster 56mhz version
12:59 < Synx|hm> ya
12:59 < Synx|hm> im looking up sheets on the other IC's to see if it has external DRAM
12:59 <@klixa> aestetix: when i was 12, my mom gave me the sex talk and told me about masturbation, and i pretebded i didnt know what it was then asked if she did it and then told her that was gross
13:00 < aestetix> she told you she masturbates?
13:00 < Synx|hm> hrm found a 2MB flash that seems designed for boot
13:00 <@klixa> yeah, when i asked her
13:00 < aestetix> that must have been awkward
13:00 <@klixa> aestetix: you know how you ask your point blank sex questions... i was like that to her
13:00 < aestetix> good thing corydon wasn't your brother
13:01 <@klixa> like , at one point she said "guys will lie to get you to have sex with them but dont give in" and i was all "but what if i want to have sex with them?
13:05 < aestetix> how did she respond
13:06 < Synx|hm> also has a 8 pin jumper maybe jtag?
13:06 <@klixa> aestetix: she said i should wait til im older, and i asked how old
13:06 < aestetix> 12 is pretty young
13:07 <@klixa> yeah, thats why i wiated 6 months til i was 13 :P
13:24 <@Dagmar> I've just about got the layout working properly now.  Yay
13:26 < aestetix> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/14/days-hosting-massive-free-speech-march-france-arrests-comedian-facebook-comments/
13:29 < aestetix> Something seems deeply wrong about that.
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13:35 < jaake> hello
13:36 <@shapr> howdy jaake, how's code?
13:36 < jaake> code?
13:36 < Synx|hm> shapr, sasquatc4; removed a daughter board and found two 16MB DRAM modules on it so 32MB ram
13:36 <@shapr> much better!
13:38 < Synx|hm> cant find any regulators on the boards so ill just try a 5v supply and hope for the best
13:39 <@shapr> Synx|hm: pix before you fry it? :-)
13:39 < Synx|hm> ha
13:39 < Synx|hm> its this http://www.ebay.com/itm/WSI-Model-PILOTbrief-Vector-Interface-Module-MS-2798025-/371235825336?pt=Other_Telecom_Equipment&hash=item566f6126b8
13:39 < PigBot> Title: WSI Model Pilotbrief Vector Interface Module MS 2798025 | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
13:40 < Synx|hm> at the very least has a nice machined aluminum enclosure for other projects if i fry it
13:40 < aestetix> oh wait
13:40 < aestetix> PigBot: url
13:40 < PigBot> aestetix: Error: "url" is not a valid command.
13:40 < aestetix> PigBot: list
13:40 < PigBot> aestetix: Admin, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, URL, User, and Web
13:40 < aestetix> PigBot: URL
13:40 < PigBot> aestetix: Error: "URL" is not a valid command.
13:40 < aestetix> PigBot: help URL
13:40 < PigBot> aestetix: Error: There is no command "url".
13:40 < aestetix> wtf
13:40 < aestetix> PigBot: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/14/days-hosting-massive-free-speech-march-france-arrests-comedian-facebook-comments/
13:40 < PigBot> aestetix: Error: "https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/14/days-hosting-massive-free-speech-march-france-arrests-comedian-facebook-comments/" is not a valid command.
13:40 < aestetix> Evilpig_: your bot sucks
13:43  * benthemeek appears from behind his mountain of work to wave at Jaake
13:43 <@benthemeek> Jaake is a fellow NLUG'er and was at Phreaknic this year.
13:44 < Evilpig_> it does what it's supposed to
13:45 < aestetix> Evilpig_: I think there is a typo in the url logic
13:45 < Evilpig_> http://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/14/days-hosting-massive-free-speech-march-france-arrests-comedian-facebook-comments/
13:46 < Evilpig_> or it just doesn't like the ssl on that
13:46 < aestetix> http://www.yahoo.com
13:46 < PigBot> Title: Yahoo! (at www.yahoo.com)
13:46 < aestetix> ah ok
13:50 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig_: You are strongly encouraged to have that bot ignore the resident troll.
13:56 < Evilpig_> girl in the ny office lost her keys.  they sent out a notice to the office requesting that if anyone sees them they bring them back to her
13:57 < Evilpig_> I send her a message directly "as long as you don't change your locks this afternoon i'll bring your keys back tonight around midnight"
13:57 <@shapr> !
13:58 <@benthemeek> Evilpig_:  I hope she knows you well enough to find that funny...
13:59 <@Bahhumbug> What a little HR issue between friends?
13:59 <@eryc> if i lost my keys i wouldnt find any jokes funny
13:59 <@eryc> i would just stab you in the liver
14:00 <@Dickie> If I received a home invasion joke from Evilpig_, I'd panic
14:00 <@benthemeek> There are those around us who are not adept at subtleties
14:00 <@benthemeek> ^ I would worry about HR too
14:01 <@Dickie> Don't you work for tumblr?!
14:02 <@Dickie> And you made a joke about victimizing a woman!?
14:02 <@Dickie> They're going to change your job title to Shitlord
14:06 < Evilpig_> benthemeek: yes she laughed maniacly at me
14:07 < Evilpig_> here I will even quote it.  "baaahahahhahahah"
14:08 <@benthemeek> Lol, well its cool that PC hasnt taken over the office then
14:10 <@Dickie> I once had a manager laugh at me then tell on me to the store manager
14:10 < aestetix> Evilpig_: you should submit a talk to Dashcon
14:11 < Evilpig_> benthemeek: that helps when it's known that i'm in the datacenter and not in the NY office
14:12 < aestetix> awwww
14:12 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DashCon
14:12 < PigBot> Title: DashCon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
14:12 < aestetix> there will be no dashcon 2
14:30 < RangerZ> 5 million copies of Charlie Hebdo sold out
14:30 < RangerZ> aestetix: don't dash-con our dreams like that
14:31 < aestetix> RangerZ: maybe you can move back to Ohio and revive it
14:31 < RangerZ> Part of me... thinks it would be great to do that...
14:31 < RangerZ> just make a giant troll against Tumblrs
14:31 < aestetix> just tell them your name is Wilpig
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14:33 < Evilpig_> in other news... so i'm talking to neteng...
14:33 < Evilpig_> I'm not getting lldp responses on this server interface.  I tell neteng it's the switch
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15:03 < Synx|hm> fucking glassdoor salaries are way off
15:04 < Synx|hm> got to be at least 30-40K in this specific case
15:10 < aestetix> dr. penis
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15:22 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: huh?
15:22 < Synx|hm> as in glassdoor shows an adverage salary at least 30-40K below what all my coworkers make
15:23 < Synx|hm> also, how you be?
15:24 < RangerZ> I'm alright, got funding... so thats good... need to pay for school, etc, lol
15:25 < RangerZ> thanks btw ;)
15:25 < RangerZ> I like to thank the tax payers who pay for me -_-
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15:25 < Synx|hm> :)
15:25 < Synx|hm> i was out collecting tax payers money all last week ha
15:26 < RangerZ> I saw the 'bill' that has been due for -tuition- alone
15:26 < RangerZ> and 120k+ kinda made me cringe when I opened the page and saw the bill
15:26 < RangerZ> ohhh... thats not what _I_ owe
15:26  * RangerZ picks heart up off the floor
15:26 < Synx|hm> haha
15:28 < RangerZ> makes my student loans not seem that bad
15:28 < RangerZ> lol
15:28 < RangerZ> from my undergrad
15:29 < Neoteric> "Perpetrators Use Social Engineering Techniques to Solicit Customer Information From Telecommunication Company Employees"
15:29 < Neoteric> OMG SOMEONE CALLED 411 AND GOT SOMEONE'S FON NUMBER hax hax hax
15:30 < RangerZ> hehe
15:31 < RangerZ> almost as good as when people say 'weev' "hacked" AT&T
15:31 < RangerZ> he just asked politely for AT&T's server to give him info, lol
15:32 < RangerZ> hehe
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15:38 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I don't get this margin stuff
15:39 <@Dagmar> I would have thought the margins were optional
15:41 <@Dagmar> Ahah
15:41 <@Dagmar> Found what I was looking for
15:41 <@Dagmar> I'd just missed setting the minimum sized
15:41 <@Dagmar> er sizes
15:45 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to torture this thing into refusing to be shrunk to a useless size
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17:28 < _NSAKEY> Neoteric: What is that from?
17:29 < _NSAKEY> That's probably more elaborate than calling 411.
17:30 < Evilpig_> quick channel consensus.  yay or nay on this show "Carnival of Madness Presents Halestorm with The Pretty Reckless"
17:38 < aestetix> wait for real?
17:38 < aestetix> France is going to war with Iraq?
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17:43 <@Dickie> abstain
17:44 <@Dickie> What's that?
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18:27 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-BzL1nCwuw :/
18:27 < PigBot> Title: Anti-Vaxxers Ruin Disneyland - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:28 <@Bahhumbug> How?  Did the spread measles everywhere?
18:28 <@RangerZ> yep
18:30 < aestetix> ..... what?
18:30 <@RangerZ> the MMR shot _does_ knock me out for ~ a week, and I had to retake it b/c my records were lost
18:30 <@RangerZ> so I had to take a 4th shot (you normally only need 3)
18:32 < aestetix> why the fuck would someone not get a vaccine
18:32 <@RangerZ> that porn star
18:32 < aestetix> Because some page on the internet is more reliable than a medical professional?
18:32 <@RangerZ> and that fuckwad UK former-doctor
18:33 <@RangerZ> who 'linked' autism and the MMR vaccine
18:33 <@Bahhumbug> Because $reasons
18:33 <@RangerZ> that 'doctor' lost his degree over the fall out of this, and the co-authors all denounce it
18:33 <@RangerZ> he was trying to make a buck, by offering a 'new' type of vaccine
18:33 <@Bahhumbug> It takes years for the stupid to wear off.
18:33 <@RangerZ> or something liek that
18:34 <@RangerZ> and then that "actress" here in the US has a kid with autism
18:34 <@Bahhumbug> What you need is a reliable news source, say Fox News, to get the word out to people to vaccinate their spawn.
18:34 <@RangerZ> and went on the PR zealot-driven campaign to stop others from getting vaccinated
18:34 <@Bahhumbug> Since the stupid watch Fox and follow blindly that should work.
18:35 < aestetix> well
18:35 < aestetix> if you have the vaccine and someone else doesn't and gets measles
18:35 < aestetix> you are less likely to get measles, right?
18:36 <@benthemeek> aestetix: the problem is the very sick and infants rely on herd immunity until they are old enough or able enough to get it
18:36 < aestetix> If that is true, then this is a form of natural selection.
18:36 <@RangerZ> you generally _won't_ get measles if you have the vaccine, even if you take care of someone with it
18:36 <@benthemeek> so at disney the children who got it were too young as of yet to recieve the vaccine
18:36 <@RangerZ> that and polio are among our two best vaccines
18:37 <@RangerZ> MMR shot hits people HARD
18:37 <@RangerZ> Measles, Mumps, and Rhubella(sp?)
18:37 <@RangerZ> but, it among the most important ones you can get
18:38 <@benthemeek> the popularity on the anti-vax movement is large enough that now the virus has a way to spread easily
18:39 <@benthemeek> Where before the avenues of infection were limited
18:39 <@benthemeek> I wonder if the amish get vaccines
18:39 <@RangerZ> then you have people like my Mom, who are allergic to eggs, and can't get certain vaccines
18:39 <@benthemeek> (HIV positive)
18:39 <@benthemeek> also cant recive some
18:40 <@benthemeek> and other immune compormised individuals
18:40 <@RangerZ> recently they have started to come out with non-egg based vaccines, to help with that, so thats 'less' of a problem than imune-compromised people
18:41 <@benthemeek> Well as long as the anti vax movement is strong its probaly a good idea to limit the young to exposure of growds
18:41 <@benthemeek> crowds
18:41 <@benthemeek> as in younger than able to recieve the vaccine
18:42 <@RangerZ> my understanding is that measles is one of the -most- infectious diseases out there
18:42 <@RangerZ> other than cuddies when you are 7, lol
18:43 < Evilpig_> this anti-vax shit is skewed by the flu
18:43 < Evilpig_> this year's botched guess just fueled those idiots resolve to not get the vaccines that have been time tested and proven to stop other shit
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19:28 <@Bahhumbug> Wait a minute.  You're serious?  Kids got _measles_ at Disney*?
19:30 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: It was in the news a few days ago.
19:34 <@Bahhumbug> The news can normally be asked thusly: Who killed who?  What burned where?  They bombed what?
19:34 <@Bahhumbug> This is a new one, however.
19:34 <@Bahhumbug> I dislike the first set enough to stop paying attention to "news" until something blows up somewhere.
19:35 <@Bahhumbug> Well, shit...
19:35 <@Bahhumbug> That really does kinda suck.
19:36 <@Dolemite> Yes, kids too young to be vaccinated picked up measles from anti-vaxxer kids at Disneyland
19:38 <@eryc> find patient zero and execute them immediately
19:39 <@eryc> preserve the body in the haunted mansion for posterity
19:42 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not a parent so my opinion isn't worth spit but I think I would be a little... miffed... if my child contracted mother-fucking MEASLES from Disneyland.
19:42 <@Bahhumbug> I get it's always a distinct, yet rare, chance anywhere for an un-vaccinated kid...
19:43 <@Bahhumbug> But... meh.  Suck.
19:43 <@Dolemite> Well, I wouldn't take my baby that is too young to be vaccinated to a large crowd, either
19:43 <@eryc> ^
19:44 <@eryc> we need to start vaccinating in the womb
19:44 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah.  I 'spose that makes sense.
19:44 <@Bahhumbug> But... still...  Suck.
19:45 <@eryc> science bitch
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19:52 < _NSAKEY> eryc: Better to execute the parents of patient zero, not patient zero.
19:52 < _NSAKEY> There's hope for making patient zero non-retarded, but the parents are beyond redemption.
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19:59 <@RangerZ> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/01/14/2030259/systemd-gains-new-networking-features
19:59 < PigBot> Title: SystemD Gains New Networking Features - Slashdot (at linux.slashdot.org)
19:59 <@RangerZ> because it needs -more- features
20:03 <@RangerZ> [I want an init system. I cannot fathom why an init system needs to do IP forwarding and routing.]
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20:11 <@RangerZ> I swear... this is a bad dream... I have _written_ OS Memeory Manager simulators.... that were simplier than -any- part of systemD
20:11 <@RangerZ> Demand Page Memory Mapping at that...
20:17 <@Bahhumbug> Lies.
20:17 <@Bahhumbug> Nothing can be grander than Lennart's Baby
20:18 <@RangerZ> it was my honors project for my OS class, lol
20:18 <@RangerZ> but seriously... I'm thinking of going to freebsd for daily driver OS
20:18 <@Bahhumbug> My condolences.
20:18 <@RangerZ> b/c i -know- systemD is going to have issues and 0days that are just going to be painful
20:19 <@Bahhumbug> It's a Basically Shitty Design, but at least it's free.
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20:22 <@eryc> does linux have carp?
20:23 < RangerZ1> i think mirc does with '/slap' ?
20:23 < RangerZ1> lol
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20:28 < RangerZ> i dunno... there is always the possibility of going to mac
20:28 < RangerZ> but 'ugh'
20:29 < RangerZ> Dagmar: Evilpig_ 'New' 3DS XL coming out 2/13 , 200$
20:29 < RangerZ> if you need to replace yours , I know Evilpig_ did
20:30 <@eryc> it was a rhetorical question
20:30 < RangerZ> hehe
20:30 <@eryc> no linux doesn't have carp and networking on linux sucks dick
20:30 <@eryc> SUCKS DICK I SAID
20:30 < RangerZ> has linux multi-threading at the kernel level ever caught up to freebsd?
20:31 <@eryc> i doubt it
20:31 < RangerZ> i read a paper a few years ago about mysql, and how freebsd was able to scale basically linearly with more cores, where linux degraded after 5
20:31 < RangerZ> mind you... thats 'mysql'
20:31 < RangerZ> but still
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20:40 <@eryc> yea mind you, no one runs mysql or anything
20:45 < aestetix> nobody runs mysql
20:45 < aestetix> we all run mariadb
20:46 < RangerZ> you get the point
20:47 < RangerZ> and its not like my -desktop- has more than 4 cores now or anything...
21:04 < aestetix> I don't think anyone is going to get my twitter joke
21:04 < aestetix> "It would be so cute if all the Republicans showed up to Congress with Jefferson masks, and Obama wore a Hamilton mask."
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21:09 < RangerZ> no
21:10 < RangerZ> b/c comparing them to Jefferson, insults Jefferson
21:10 < RangerZ> lol
21:17 < aestetix> hah
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21:28 <@Dagmar> Oh god
21:39 < RangerZ> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-07/tuhs-tur071614.php
21:39 < PigBot> Title: Temple University researchers eliminate the HIV virus from cultured human cells for first time | EurekAlert! Science News (at www.eurekalert.org)
21:39 < RangerZ> well -that- is good news
21:43 < RangerZ> [The research was funded by grants from the National Institutes of Health (R01MH093271; R01NS087971; and P30MH092177).]
21:43 < RangerZ> THAT is why basic research funded by the government is important
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22:06 < RangerZ1> http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/top-publisher-bans-mentions-of-pigs-or-pork-so-as-not-to-offend-muslims-or-jews-9976568.html
22:06 < RangerZ1> also, Evilpig_ you're really lucky, gamestop is already sold out of those consoles
22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Bacon
22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Bacon
22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Bacon
22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Bacon
22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Fuck anyone that would prevent me from saying or writing that.
22:09 < RangerZ1> or eating it
22:09 < aestetix> bacon
22:43 <@Dickie> Let's party
22:45  * oddball giggles like a little school girl
22:45 <@oddball> apparently there's a flashlight/battery company called "UranusFire."
22:45 < RangerZ1> did the mrs buy you chocolate ice creme cone on her way home?
22:46 < aestetix> haha
22:46 < RangerZ1> lol
22:46 <@oddball> Annnnd apparenlty their products have been known to actually catch on fire.
22:47 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1foKpIBaBCs ... je suis(is that french for Jesus.H.Christ...) ...
22:47 < PigBot> Title: French Thought Police Arrest Dozens In Alarming Turn Against Speech - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:47 < RangerZ1> lol
23:01 < aestetix> wow
23:01 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/555573904551321601
23:01 < PigBot> Title: Sean Hannity on Twitter: "Question of the Day: Should taxpayers be forced to pay for kids to get a "free" education or should students pay their own way? #Hannity" (at twitter.com)
23:01 < aestetix> what a fucking asshole
23:02 <@Dagmar> Yep.
23:02 <@Dagmar> These people seem to think this is some massive expenditure
23:02 <@Dagmar> It's not.
23:03 <@Dagmar> But that's the only way they can make it sound bad... by pulling out the old "free lunch" argument
23:03 < aestetix> You know
23:03 <@Dagmar> ...and that program is far from "free".
23:03 < aestetix> It would be really interesting to investigate someone from the GOP
23:04 < aestetix> In particular, look where they went to college, and find out if their education was subsidized at all.
23:04 <@Dagmar> If by "invetigate" you mean "set aflame" then I agree.
23:04 < aestetix> And if so, ask them about it.
23:05 <@Dagmar> I think basically what that're _really_ angry about is that there is a debt _forgiveness_ section to this legislation.
23:05 <@Dagmar> They spent all that lobbying money so they could have a brand new slave-class citizen, and now it turns out that Obama wants to turn that into a mere 20-year indentured servitude.
23:06 <@Dagmar> If you've been paying regularly on your federal student loan for 20 years, you will be able to have the rest forgiven.
23:06 < aestetix> Hmm.
23:06 < aestetix> Sean Hannity dropped out of two colleges.
23:06 <@Dagmar> That will completely sink derivatives and the value of old, formerly guaranteed loan agreements
23:06 <@Dagmar> cuZ let's face it.  If you have been paying on your student loan for 20 years, it was going to die with you.
23:07 <@Dagmar> Public service workers after a mere _ten_ years
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23:16 < aestetix> Heh.
23:16 < RangerZ1> and public service doesn't include 'government employees' only nurses and teachers basicaly
23:16 < aestetix> This twitter discussion I'm in is getting interesting
23:17 < aestetix> I'm arguing about the merits of free community college with Tom Nicholes
23:18 < RangerZ1> he's against it?
23:18 < aestetix> This happens to be a *very* personal issue for me, as one of my parents spent their career teaching in community college.
23:18 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/with_replies
23:18 < PigBot> Title: Tweets with replies by Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) | Twitter (at twitter.com)
23:20 < RangerZ1> aestetix: you have a 'right' to vote, but it isn't compulsory
23:21 < RangerZ1> rights are rights b/c you have the 'choice' to exercise them or not, and then there are rights that are unconditional
23:21 < aestetix> yep
23:21 < RangerZ1> well you should say that
23:21 < RangerZ1> lol
23:21 < aestetix> I just did.
23:23 < aestetix> I'm sort of using platonic dialogue on him
23:24 < aestetix> I mean I agree with him on a lot of things. But here I think he's completely wrong.
23:24 < aestetix> The challenge is you can't really measure how successful an education is.
23:25 < aestetix> Salaries doesn't really work. Someone could have a fantastic education and then become an artist.
23:27 < aestetix> He's also ignoring the issue where a student gets accepted to a school and while their parents can't afford tuition, they don't qualify for financial aid because their parents make too much.
23:27 < aestetix> The one thing we can probably both agree on is that the education system in the US is completely broken.
23:28 < RangerZ1> thats called "middle class"
23:28 < RangerZ1> lol
23:28 < RangerZ1> thats why I _have_ student loans
23:28 < RangerZ1> lol
23:28 < aestetix> Yeah and it's really common.
23:28 < aestetix> I know several people who almost had to drop out because student loan laws changed while they were in school.
23:29 < aestetix> It's so fucked up.
23:33 < aestetix> RangerZ1: I think one issue surrounding all of this is that Americns have forgotten how to debate
23:33 < RangerZ1> no
23:33 < RangerZ1> its twitter
23:33 < aestetix> It's basically screaming and poo flinging
23:33 < RangerZ1> where debates are limited to 140 sound bytes
23:33 < aestetix> No.
23:33 < RangerZ1> which is useless
23:33 < RangerZ1> lol
23:34 < aestetix> Have you seen CNN or Fox News?
23:34 < aestetix> Or the Presidential "debates"
23:34 < RangerZ1> yes, and have you seen the 'rules' for the "debates"
23:34 < aestetix> no
23:34 < RangerZ1> the female CNN anchor confirming that Obama DID call the acts "terrorism" in real time was a violation
23:35 < RangerZ1> and correcting romney
23:35 < aestetix> Candy Crowley?
23:35 < RangerZ1> fucking pissed off the republicans SOO much
23:35 < RangerZ1> yeah, her
23:35 < RangerZ1> couldn't think of her name
23:35 < aestetix> Was that considered interfering?
23:35 < RangerZ1> yes
23:36 < RangerZ1> explicitly forebidden
23:36 <@Dagmar> What a shame
23:36 < RangerZ1> the GOP has basically eliminated the debates entirely as much as they could get away with
23:37 < RangerZ1> b/c of the weekly clown-car-road-show we had in 2012
23:37 <@Dagmar> They don't work well while the GOP is still adhereing to the "make shit up" method of fact discovery
23:37 < RangerZ1> think its from 21 to 7 or something
23:37 < aestetix> RangerZ1: but Obama asked her for the transcripts.
23:37 < aestetix> So was he violating the rules?
23:37 <@Dagmar> No, it's apparently completely legit to just make shit up on the spot
23:37 < RangerZ1> honestly... i don't care
23:38 < RangerZ1> have you seen The Newsroom episode about this?
23:38 <@Dagmar> It's anyone but the other debaters being allowed to question any of it that is forbidden
23:38 < aestetix> which episode
23:38 <@Dagmar> ...but some lies should immediately be called out.
23:38 < RangerZ1> b/c until we have a show willing to fall on the sword and completely TRICK the canidates and then ask them REAL questions... we'll never have a good debate
23:38 <@Dagmar> These people act like this is some kind of reindeer game you play between classes in high school.
23:39 <@Dagmar> Unfortunately, it means that one day... I'll be eating them or their kids.
23:39 < RangerZ1> aestetix: S1E8 and S1E9
23:43 < aestetix> was that the one where the chick used information that was given off the record?
23:44 < RangerZ1> oliva munn....ohh.... oliva munn...
23:44 < aestetix> Right.
23:44 < RangerZ1> who used to host a video game show....
23:44 < aestetix> and btw the last two episodes of that show sucked
23:45 < RangerZ1> season 2?
23:45 < aestetix> season 3
23:45 < RangerZ1> I haven't watched season 2 yet
23:45 < aestetix> Season 2 is kind of confusing, but decent.
23:45 < aestetix> Season 3 starts out strong and then dies.
23:46 <@Dagmar> heheh PA today
23:47 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: ?
23:48 < RangerZ1> Pennsul-Tucky?
23:48 < aestetix> Prince Albert
23:48 < RangerZ1> ahh
23:49 < aestetix> Sounds like Dagmar was hanging out with Corydon
23:49 < RangerZ1> ohh god... MSNBC is going to talk about Jim Trafficant soon
23:49 < aestetix> who?
23:49 < RangerZ1> "greatest crlimans in congress"
23:49 < RangerZ1> criminals*
23:50 < RangerZ1> he conviced a jury that he was holding a 1-man sting on the FBI while the congressman from Youngstown... by accepting bribes
23:50 < RangerZ1> then got re-elected
23:51 < RangerZ1> ohh damn... he passed away last year
23:53 < RangerZ1> he ran for re-election from prison from his 2nd charged bribery case (which he was found guilty this time) and almost won, but the party did some shenanigans to get him only on like 1/2 the ballots or something
23:56 < aestetix> wow
23:56 < aestetix> http://adult.skyperfectv.co.jp/24h_2014/charity.php
23:56 < PigBot> Title: おっぱい募金｜スカパー！Presents STOP! AIDS チャリティー 24時間テレビ エロは地球を救う!2014 (at adult.skyperfectv.co.jp)
23:56 < aestetix> the japanese are fucked up
23:57 < aestetix> They held a fundraiser where you could donate money and fondle their boobs
23:58 < RangerZ1> how is that fucked up? thats a great way to raise..... money
23:59 < RangerZ1> plus "soap houses" aren't rare , where you go and a girl washes your body, and does pretty much everything -but- penetration...
23:59 <@Dagmar> ...and "awareness".
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