--- Log opened Sun Jan 04 00:00:34 2015 00:07 <@Dagmar> strages: I showed some people the faceplate part at hte 2600 meeting. The fancy art board stuff works great 00:07 < strages> excellent 00:08 < strages> I'm going to be building some more in the near future for general use at makers local 00:08 <@Dagmar> strages: I screwed up some measurements on the first frame tho, so I'm refactoring it and I'm probably going to cover it with some art from Borderlands, sseeing as how I'm using a color inkjet printer to print on the cardstock that I'm gluing to the art bord 00:08 < strages> cool cool 00:09 < strages> I have yet to try coating my everyday use one with spray plastidip 00:09 <@Dagmar> I may mask the outerframe and put plastidip on just the edge, and then give the rest a coating of enamel 00:10 < strages> I've been using electric tape 00:10 <@Dagmar> I've still got all kinds of half-empty spray cans from when I was paiting on the bike 00:10 <@Dagmar> Matte black paint, semi-gloss engine enamel 00:11 <@Dagmar> I am *almost* tempted to go get some of the teensy tiny hinges I saw being sold at the hardware store 00:12 < strages> have you been trying any of the apps outside of the demo one? 00:16 < strages> there are a lot of good ones and there are a lot of good durovis dive demos that you might need a controller for 00:24 <@Dagmar> I haven't messed with much of anything beyond just working with a ruler (I _really_ need to buy some calipers), the demo app, and Inkscape 00:24 <@Dagmar> I took a panoramic photo downtown and am gonna do a photosphere elsewhere just to mess about with having a 360 field of view for an image 00:25 <@Dagmar> Once I get the thing built to my taste and working, I'm going to see about Minecraft next 00:27 < strages> hmm, that could be interesting 00:50 < strages> my buddy david and I have been messing with scenevr and getting it compatible with with mobile VR platforms 00:50 < strages> nice multiuser experience so far but pretty rudimentary 01:11 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 01:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 01:38 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:55 <@Dagmar> Wow. Um... 02:55 <@Dagmar> Related to Gnomoria: Sending a tribute of _goblin sausage sandwiches_ to the nearest goblin kingdom doesn't work like you'd expect it to. 04:04 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 04:31 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 04:33 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:45 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:45 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:57 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 04:58 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:03 < aestetix> Dagmar: you should apply for this job: http://adainitiative.org/about-us/jobs/#ed 05:04 <@Dagmar> No. 05:14 <@Mirage> holy shit "Gone Girl" is a fucked up movie. 05:54 < aestetix> wow 05:54 < aestetix> http://news.bme.com/tag/nasal-sculpting/ 10:58 < Synx|hm_> happy 9 hour drive day 10:59 < Synx|hm_> see you folks in a few weeks 10:59 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:32 < aestetix> penis 12:36 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has joined #se2600 12:37 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:49 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has joined #se2600 12:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 12:49 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:02 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:03 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:15 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 13:15 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:16 <@Dagmar> RUN FOR YOUR LIVES 13:16 <@Dagmar> THE WEATHERMAN USED THE F WORD 13:17 <@Evilpig> forecast? 13:17 <@Dagmar> FL*RR**S 13:18 <@oddball> Remember: wave your hands over your head as you run around in panic! 13:19 <@Evilpig> ohhhhhh baby snow 13:21 <@oddball> Dagmar: When? 13:22 <@oddball> The weather channel is calling for rain today, and then nothing for the rest of the week. 13:22 <@Dagmar> Saturday. 13:23 <@Dagmar> Install Arcus already 13:23 <@Dagmar> Sunday's forecast involves "light sleet" until evening, and then more light sleet. 13:24 <@oddball> Ah, I pretty much never look that far out, since you're quickly approaching "ummm.... it could be?" predictions. 13:24 <@oddball> And I have a weather app on my phone... but it's in the other room. 13:27 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 13:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 13:34 <@Evilpig> I just installed that and it claims we might see 1-3" of snow on tuesday 13:40 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I never take forecasts that are more than 3 days out seriously. 13:41 <@Dagmar> Well, just know that by Thursday when you can't find bread, milk, or beer for sale anywhere... you were warned! 13:41 <@oddball> I take most forecasts of flurries in Nashville as a sign that the grocery stores have too much milk and bread on their hands. 13:46 <@klixa> lol 13:47 <@klixa> its funny how different areas have their quirks like that...in nashville you see a few flakes abnd everyone acts like its a whiteout... but in denver, the people drive 35 mph on the freeway when it rains...yet snow doesnt phase them at all 13:53 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 14:19 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:21 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVy6t90bNeY ....hahaha... TLC is having a new show called "My Husband is not gay." Gay Mormons who are trying to not be gay... 14:39 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:56 < RangerZ1> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/01/04/louie-gohmert-is-officially-gunning-for-john-boehners-job/ only fucking 'the blaze' would call _Louie Gohmer(Pile)t_ "a heavy hitter" 15:02 < RangerZ1> .... 15:02 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:02 < RangerZ1> Thats what Nashville needs.... ANOTHER hotel downtown 15:02 < RangerZ1> http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/real-estate/2015/01/02/calif-investors-buys-downtown-nashville-site-hotel/21188209/ 15:05 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, because the Karl Dean Mausoleum (Er... the convention center) needs more hotels to feed it with guests who won't go to events held there. 15:23 -!- sdodson_ [~Scott@2606:a000:110d:c03b:bdbf:a279:530f:f6db] has joined #se2600 15:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson_] by ChanServ 15:30 <@RangerZ> i dunno, MCC is actually really nice 15:30 <@RangerZ> I just don't know about prices, etc 15:31 <@RangerZ> from a con's perspective 15:31 <@RangerZ> if PN 'could' afford to hold it there, that would be great, we could have lots of room, etc. 15:31 <@RangerZ> 'could' 15:46 < _NSAKEY> That would probably be expensive. 15:47 <@Bahhumbug> Money is no object to them. 15:49 <@Evilpig> The person that first suggested that place as a possibility was an idiot 15:49 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Did anyone ever get a price quote from them just for laughs? 15:50 < _NSAKEY> That could be a funny read. 15:51 < _NSAKEY> To ask something less likely to lead to ranting: Does anyone here have IPv6 connectivity? I've got a site that I just added AAAA records to, but have no way to test it. 15:53 < _NSAKEY> ip6.nl says it's good to go, but I'd rather have an actual human say it works. 15:54 <@Bahhumbug> gimme a url 15:54 < _NSAKEY> https://abigisp.com 15:54 <@Bahhumbug> An error occurred during a connection to abigisp.com. SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long) 15:57 * Bahhumbug heads out for a bit 16:06 < _NSAKEY> Looks like I forgot to enable ssl for IPv6. Oops. 16:07 < _NSAKEY> Knowing my luck, that isn't the only uh-oh in the config. 16:10 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:29 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: I swear I heard something last year that crazypants did, but I never saw it. I wouldn't even entertain just an idiotic notion 16:33 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 16:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 16:33 <@SuMo_D> happy new year everyone 16:36 <@Dagmar> Happy New Year and welcome back 16:38 <@SuMo_D> thx 16:38 <@SuMo_D> how's life up in Nashville ? 16:39 <@Dagmar> Damp and chilly at the moment 16:39 < _NSAKEY> Don't forget the wind. 16:39 <@SuMo_D> yeah, same here... I guess blame it on that winter thing 16:47 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avxkzsCMyI [Cat Ears & Hackers at the AT&T Hackathon] 16:47 <@RangerZ> AT&T _HACKATHON_.... 16:48 <@RangerZ> SuMo_D: hello 16:48 <@SuMo_D> yo 16:48 <@RangerZ> happy New Year 16:49 <@sdodson_> _NSAKEY, Pinging abigisp.com [2a01:4f8:101:22a4::bf5f:94ed] with 32 bytes of data: 16:49 <@sdodson_> Reply from 2a01:4f8:101:22a4::bf5f:94ed: time=109ms 16:49 <@sdodson_> Reply from 2a01:4f8:101:22a4::bf5f:94ed: time=107ms 16:49 <@SuMo_D> you too 16:51 < _NSAKEY> sdodson_: Thanks. I found a random low-end vps that had IPv6 support and ssh tunneled to test it. 16:52 < _NSAKEY> The root of the problem was in this line: 16:52 < _NSAKEY> listen [::]:443 ssl; 16:52 <@sdodson_> I don't know when Timewarner started giving me IPv6 addresses but I guess it's cool. 16:52 < _NSAKEY> I forgot to add "ssl" to it. 16:52 <@sdodson_> I still think IPv6 will never catch on. 16:53 < _NSAKEY> Probably not, but it's relatively painless to support it from my standpoint. 16:53 < _NSAKEY> Just added some AAAA records and a couple of extra lines to the web server config. Done. 16:53 <@sdodson_> In my last job role I thought about trying to ensure our site worked over IPv6 but I decided it wasn't worth the effort. 16:54 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, it was only simple for me because IPv6 addresses were just a support ticket request away. 16:54 <@sdodson_> I imagine our CDN provider could've just faked it, but SPDY/HTTP2.0 was more interesting to me. 16:54 < _NSAKEY> That site does nothing but serve up my public key at the moment. 16:55 < _NSAKEY> Eventually it will probably also parody ultra-corporate websites, but that depends on my motivation. 16:57 <@Bahhumbug> <@sdodson_> In my last job role I thought about trying to ensure our site worked over IPv6 but I decided it wasn't worth the effort. 16:57 <@Bahhumbug> And you're part of the problem. 16:57 < _NSAKEY> I'm thinking that at some point I should be particularly annoying and upload the HTML for a bunch of php shells and tell nginx to treat .php as html. 16:57 < _NSAKEY> Just to toy with anyone who tries visiting syr.php, for example. 16:58 <@sdodson_> Bahhumbug, I'm fine with that. It's clearly not a problem that's critical. 16:59 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah. The whole v4 exhaustion issue. All a non-critical issue. 16:59 <@sdodson_> They had bigger problems like the CMS crashing on a daily basis to deal with and I'm sure they still do. 16:59 <@sdodson_> Bahhumbug, That problem is greatly overstated. 17:00 <@Bahhumbug> No, it's actually not. 17:00 <@Bahhumbug> v4 is, for all intents, depleted. 17:01 <@Bahhumbug> Just because many providers are sitting on unused blocks does not make the problem any less. 17:01 * Bahhumbug goes to walk the mutts 17:05 <@sdodson_> Bahhumbug, What's the dire consequence of exhaustion? 17:05 <@RangerZ> no IOT 17:05 <@RangerZ> which I _write papers about_ .... but don't think will ever really happen... we'll have Internet_S_ Of Things 17:06 <@sdodson_> RangerZ, That falls apart with NAT? 17:06 <@RangerZ> yeah actually 17:06 <@RangerZ> IOT imagines a world where every device can talk to every other devices 17:06 <@RangerZ> its a joke 17:08 <@sdodson_> I think that has problems of it's own not related to IP connectivity. 17:08 <@RangerZ> plus papers never talk about the fact that competetors will put in DRM or other nonsese to prevent interoperability 17:09 <@RangerZ> can't wait for MSFT's EEE 17:09 <@sdodson_> Yeah, and I don't think everything will be nearly as distributed as people seem to think it would be. 17:09 <@RangerZ> ohh, and I got my friend off arch linux 17:09 <@sdodson_> You're going to have billions of devices talking to 100s of services, but not to one another directly. 17:09 <@RangerZ> she was able to setup the server she needed in less then 3hours... 17:09 <@RangerZ> after 2 days fucking with arch 17:10 <@sdodson_> RangerZ, I think you've done enough for 2015, you can take the rest of the year off. 17:10 <@RangerZ> she was so pissed (at herself) for wasting time 17:10 <@sdodson_> But but with my special gcc flags i get 0.002% faster transparent windows for my leet screenshots. 17:11 <@RangerZ> when 'ifconfig' didn't work... I was like... "no... no... just no... 17:11 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:11 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has joined #se2600 17:11 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has quit [Changing host] 17:11 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 17:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 17:12 <@RangerZ> it was 'ip' 17:12 < _NSAKEY> sdodson_: Are you sure you aren't running Gentoo? 17:12 <@RangerZ> and I was like... you aren't learning normal linux, just forget everything from these past two days... 17:13 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: You sure it just wasn't in your $PATH? 17:13 <@RangerZ> she's a CS grad student too... just never setup her own linux server (used them)... and one of the guys at work uses arch... and I didn't have the heart to stop her from trying it ... like I would have with gentoo at least 17:14 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: at that point, I just didn't care 17:14 <@sdodson_> RangerZ, you mean ifconfig didn't work or you mean ip didn't work? 17:15 <@RangerZ> ifconfig didn't work 17:15 <@Bahhumbug> ifconfig has been deprecated for years and people should have been using ip for about a decade now. 17:15 <@RangerZ> well, thats not widely known, b/c I didn't know that either 17:15 <@Bahhumbug> That being said I have decades of tooling that isn't ip-aware :/ 17:16 <@sdodson_> It's been deprecated, but I think you'll find most people still use ifconfig. 17:16 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: It's not a secret. 17:16 <@RangerZ> never said it was 17:16 <@RangerZ> just said not widely known 17:16 <@RangerZ> I'd never even heard that before 17:17 <@Bahhumbug> man ifconfig somewtime. 17:17 <@RangerZ> not like I _am_ a system admin or anything, but I do run linux daily, and try to keep up on it, but still... 17:18 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm, debian/ubuntu doesn't carry the obsolete warning. Interesting. 17:19 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: I was going to say, I don't remember seeing that kind of warning. 17:19 <@Bahhumbug> Sane distros have it :) 17:19 <@Bahhumbug> NOTE 17:19 <@Bahhumbug> This program is obsolete! For replacement check ip addr and ip link. For statistics use ip -s link. 17:20 <@Bahhumbug> I had thought that debian picked that up, however. 17:20 <@Dagmar> Everyone knows it's obsolete. 17:20 <@Dagmar> ...but it _is_ the thing we've grown to expect to see on *any* unix box 17:20 <@sdodson_> Google suggests 400k instances of it in Red Hat's public documentation, though we don't remove old product documentation. 17:21 < _NSAKEY> Bahhumbug: After the political battle surrounding systemd, I don't think anyone can call debian "sane" anymore. 17:21 <@Bahhumbug> I never did. 17:21 <@Bahhumbug> I can't personally stand it. 17:21 < _NSAKEY> Well, I was just stating in a backhanded way that I agree with your assessment of debian not being sane. 17:21 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh. 17:22 <@Bahhumbug> I backhand debian so often I lose track :) 17:22 <@sdodson_> We're losing track of what Bahhumbug doesn't backhand. 17:22 * Bahhumbug backhands sdodson_ 17:23 <@Bahhumbug> There, that's one that should remain fresh in your memory. 17:23 <@sdodson_> I was aware of that target. 17:26 <@RangerZ> here... in news that will break everyone's heart... http://nypost.com/2015/01/04/girl-who-survived-plane-crash-hoped-dead-family-was-sleeping/ 17:33 <@Dagmar> I'm not about to tell her otherwise 17:33 <@sdodson_> I wonder how long until we have settop boxes that support HEVC? Iimagine that's pretty much a requirement for UHDTV 17:34 <@sdodson_> You reckon content providers will stream standard HD streams using HEVC as well for reduced bandwidth consumption? 17:35 <@RangerZ> what are these "content providers" 17:35 <@RangerZ> that "stream" 17:35 <@RangerZ> lol 17:35 <@sdodson_> Amazon, Netflix? 17:36 <@RangerZ> i honestly don't think streaming material will go past 1080p for a long time 17:36 <@RangerZ> deminishing returns 17:36 <@sdodson_> Netflix has House Of Cards ready for 4k 17:36 <@RangerZ> yeah, only so they can appeal to the top of the top 17:36 <@RangerZ> but ISPs aren't going to let that happen 17:37 <@RangerZ> sheesh 17:37 <@RangerZ> lol 17:37 <@sdodson_> Still, if netflix could deliver HD content at 20% lower bitrate I'm sure they'd do it given the tariffs they're paying for access to customers. 17:37 < sasquatc4> sdodson_, set tops are gonna be ready in a few months 17:37 <@sdodson_> Perhaps those deals are really per customer rates? 17:37 < sasquatc4> at least the first round of basic ones 17:38 <@sdodson_> I wonder if FireTV has enough raw cpu power to do it in software. 17:38 <@RangerZ> I'd guess not 17:38 < sasquatc4> and if you have a smarttv that does 4k you can already watch the netflix 4k content 17:38 < sasquatc4> i tested a bunch at work 17:38 <@RangerZ> but I haven't looked into its specs exactly 17:39 < sasquatc4> i really doubt it has enough power to do it in software, its more processing intensive then h264 was 17:39 <@sdodson_> Snapdragon 600, quad core 1.7GHz 17:40 <@RangerZ> still going to chug on that much data though 17:41 <@sdodson_> I wonder if Samsung will offer hardware upgrades to their new Tizen based stuff for current smarttvs that support hardware upgrades. 17:41 <@sdodson_> Upgrading to tizen and something that supported HEVC would be nice. 17:46 < sasquatc4> http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cable/Cable-Set-Top-Box-Solutions/BCM7445 17:46 < sasquatc4> ;) 17:46 <@RangerZ> sdodson_: I'd look into nvidia boxes at CES this year 17:47 <@RangerZ> nvidia has in-home streaming down pretty pat, plus with GPU tech, streaming becomes a 'well we can do that easily' type of thing 17:47 <@RangerZ> amd too 17:54 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: My new gnome build has survived okay so far. just about to start year 3 and just fended off a 6 goblin assault 17:57 <@Evilpig> RangerZ, Dagmar: try it. https://www.dropbox.com/s/8r5k8s5ondeqosd/world02.sav?dl=0 18:04 <@Dagmar> My guys are murdering anyone who shows up in year 4, which includes a few ogres 18:04 <@Dagmar> Mants are also coming for some fucked up reason 18:04 <@Dagmar> I thought you had to have a significant amount of food around for that to happen, but perhaps this is no longer true. 18:05 <@Dagmar> Frenzy and crap stone hammer/axe is a bit overpowered I think 18:05 <@Dagmar> ...but it definitely does get you through the early stage. I'm about to have enough leather helms for all 15 guardsmen 18:06 <@Dagmar> Just got them leather everything else and bronze weapons and now the skull helmets were last to go 18:06 <@Dagmar> ...and I have two cripples, so I really wish there was utility in building multiple tinker benches 18:06 <@Dagmar> I learned an ugly lesson about how beetles are now handled. 18:07 <@Evilpig> multiple tinker benches just make the tinkering go quicker 18:09 <@Dagmar> I need the discovery of prosthetic limbs to happeb faster 18:09 <@Dagmar> I'm just assuming it's near the end of the tree 18:11 <@Dagmar> I only had to use gnome management software a few times lol 18:11 <@Evilpig> it's after the steam engine 18:12 <@Dagmar> Yeah well, my tinker gnome is the one that had the highest curiousity and focus 18:12 <@Dagmar> She'll get there soon enough 18:12 <@Dagmar> It very much helps to add lots of things to the tracked items list on the left of the screen 18:13 <@Dagmar> It makes it much easier to spot production bottlnecks. 18:13 <@Dagmar> I'm growing a ton of wheat 18:14 <@Dagmar> 607 plots, which support 8 alpacas (2 male, 6 female) and 6 yaks (2 male, 4 female) 18:14 <@Evilpig> I mainly track logs and bars 18:14 <@Dagmar> ...but they're turning up enough meat and wool that I didn't have to grow even more cotton 18:15 <@Dagmar> The emus are also in 2/6 18:15 <@Dagmar> I can't remember if there's fruit trees other than apples and oranges, but the two vendors don't know about them either 18:16 <@Dagmar> I *think* I've got a valid strategy for dealing with tunnelers 18:16 <@Evilpig> building a market stall now to get some animals 18:17 <@Dagmar> Yeah I had two yaks at first, and one of them just... disappeared 18:17 <@Dagmar> I had straw around so I dunno WTF happened there 18:17 <@Dagmar> I wound up buying some more much later after I got the first ambassador installed 18:18 <@Dagmar> WIth the butcher chopping up the extra animals as they breed, I'm just now getting a handle on dealing with all those bones 18:19 <@Dagmar> ...mainly, fucktons of statuettes 18:20 <@Dagmar> It's _annoying_ how well Frenzy works 18:20 <@Dagmar> ...but at least since my guy's axe & hammer skills are in the 50's, if I switch them to having a shield they'll just need to get better at shield 18:20 <@Dagmar> I *love* the scheduling ont he training and guard areas 18:21 <@Dagmar> I've got one training area, with three squads rotating all the time 18:21 <@Dagmar> ...and just about the only thing between it and the door is a guard area just in case 18:24 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has joined #se2600 18:25 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:25 <@Dagmar> This is perfectly _dumb_ but... I'm doing a turtle defense in the winter season, and I have placed a phalanx of ninja-trained pet rocks outside to keep the tunnelers away 18:26 <@Dagmar> They do occasionall just take them and go away. heh 18:27 <@Evilpig> I sitll haven't seen any tunnelers 18:28 <@Dagmar> They're supposed to happen when goblin raiders come and wind up leaving empty-handed 18:28 <@Dagmar> If you're walling the outside into a chokepoint, them _never leaving_ probably works just fine. Heh 18:29 <@Evilpig> ahhhh yeah. they never get away 19:01 -!- InfoSecDog_ [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:01 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:07 -!- InfoSecDog_ [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:32 <@Dagmar> I don't know what to make of Pizza Hut's site anymore 19:32 <@Dagmar> "FREE CRUST FLAVOR" 19:33 <@Dagmar> Does this mean that they now consider flavorlessness to be the default? 19:39 <@Evilpig> lol 19:40 <@Bahhumbug> There is an option for non-flavorlessness? 19:40 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5qwgl7d4a3rpvk/2014-12-30%2001.22.45.jpg?dl=0 19:41 <@Dagmar> I did come across a place where there was an option to _add_ flavor to the crust 19:41 <@Dagmar> ...but i don't think they realize what it looks like they're saying 19:43 <@Dagmar> Here's hoping there will be a lot of people doing the molten core raid who have mysteriously disconnected 19:43 <@Dagmar> I would not at all mind landing in halfway through the raid 19:44 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe just at the last boss altogether 19:44 <@Dagmar> ...cuz basically, I *have* to do it on my Druid tonight. Tomorrow I will have no chance of having enough time 19:45 <@Evilpig> not enough time? don't you only have free time right now? 19:46 <@Dagmar> I actually have things to do tomorrow. 19:46 <@Dagmar> Like, hang out with Nadia during the day, and then there's an Ingress event at 7pm 19:46 <@Dagmar> Her classes will start back up soon and she'll be back in Clarksville 19:47 <@Dagmar> I've got someone I need to send a copy of my resume to tonight, but at the moment, this is just the Monday back from NYE we're talking about 19:47 <@Dagmar> Everyone's going to be in 'wtf were we doing here last week?" mode 'til probably Wednesday 19:50 <@Evilpig> we won't be 19:50 <@Evilpig> I'll be racking servers tomorrow morning first thing 19:51 <@Dagmar> That's because you don't work in HR 19:54 <@sdodson_> I wouldn't say anyone 'works' in HR. 19:54 < RangerZ2> I wouldn't say any'one' works in HR 19:55 < RangerZ2> that would imply them being human.... etc 19:55 < RangerZ2> lol 20:06 < RangerZ2> so... got gas for 1.94 tonight... Nice to see a full tank for under 20$ 20:08 < RangerZ2> though part of me wishes we'd just tax carbon emmissions... it would raise the price of everything a few %... but it would push solar/etc decentralized power generation... then we'd pay for access to the power grid for backup for when our own system isn't working or providing enough power.... 20:27 <@Dagmar> So... watching more episodes of The Amazing Kenzi Show... the episodes where Anna Silk was pregnant... LOL 20:27 <@Dagmar> Clearly the writers were struggling there 20:35 <@Evilpig> haha 20:35 <@Evilpig> i'm waiting on the new one from tonight 20:37 < RangerZ1> http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/tech/2014/12/18/google-fiber-announcement-delayed/20595451/ apparently google is 'ready' to drop their announcement but waiting... 20:38 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: TDS is La Vergne is already offering gigabit fiber. My guess is that they're scared of Google and don't want to risk losing customers. 20:38 <@Evilpig> my gnomes are getting happier now that they have beds. 20:38 < _NSAKEY> That or they decided it would be easier to upgrade their network than to sue like they did with that city in Minnesota. 20:40 < RangerZ1> OR TDS gnomes got beds 20:40 < RangerZ1> dunno... 20:41 < _NSAKEY> s/is/in/ 20:41 < RangerZ1> ? 20:41 < RangerZ1> ohh first line 20:41 < _NSAKEY> That should have read "TDS in La Vergne," not "TDS is La Vergne." 20:42 < _NSAKEY> On the bright side, they don't care at all about servers on their lines, and don't have bw caps like comcast. 20:42 <@oddball> Yeah... I'm curious how TDS service actually rates. 20:43 < _NSAKEY> oddball: I realistically get about 2 MB/s off of wifi. 20:43 < _NSAKEY> Then again, my plan is 50mbps. 20:43 < RangerZ1> http://www.tennessean.com/story/money/tech/2014/11/12/att-halts-fiber-investment-internet/18919165/ THIS is what pisses me off the most... AT&T basically saying "well... want to be able to rape our customers, and fuck investment(we got paid to via '96 telecommuncations act...) if we can't" 20:44 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, it's just amazing how they can take that money to invest in infrastructure... then proceed to do absolutely nothing. 20:44 < _NSAKEY> THOSE people should be the ones in gitmo. 20:45 < _NSAKEY> (The word "people" is being used loosely.) 20:45 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: How's the connectivity? 20:46 < _NSAKEY> oddball: It's generally good. The only time I had trouble last year was during the storm that hit Smyrna/La Vergne last august. 20:46 <@oddball> Comcast has started dropping connection for a second or two lately. 20:46 < _NSAKEY> It fried a bunch of modems. 20:46 < RangerZ1> oddball: you too? 20:47 < _NSAKEY> Like, you're stuck using their modem if you get fiber + their TV package. 20:47 < _NSAKEY> That's non-optional. 20:47 <@oddball> And not a whole lot you can do about lightning strikes. 20:47 < _NSAKEY> That part kind of sucks, but it's whatever. 20:47 < _NSAKEY> As for the lightning strike... 20:47 < _NSAKEY> The asshat who was here before me (Trust me, he was an asshat) had DirectTV. 20:47 <@Evilpig> damn mants. fuckers just took out three gnomes 20:47 < _NSAKEY> The installer monkey didn't ground things properly. 20:47 <@oddball> And it looks like you have to get their TV package if you want their internet. Does the TV come in over fiber, or is it satallite? 20:48 < _NSAKEY> When the lightning happened, it backfed in and played Russian Roulette with the elecrtonics. 20:48 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Fiber. 20:48 <@oddball> ok 20:48 < _NSAKEY> They hardwire the TV boxes in unless it's a new one. 20:48 < _NSAKEY> And those boxes do not like being tucked behind switches. Already tried hathat. 20:48 < _NSAKEY> Wow, lag. 20:48 < _NSAKEY> Kind of ironic, given what we're talking about. It's just my shell box though, not TDS. 20:49 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Yeah... basically since that upgrade that they fucked up and caused a bunch of outages nation-wide. Wouldn't be shocked if the two were related. 20:49 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Please tell me you're not talking about the DOCSIS 3 rollout from a few years ago. 20:49 < _NSAKEY> I was a comcast customer back then and that was painful. 20:49 <@oddball> No no... this was a couple months ago. 20:50 < _NSAKEY> It was still sort of a problem when I dumped them in favor of TDS. 20:50 <@oddball> Of course, the big thing that has me wanting to find someone else, is that the idea of data caps for home users annoys me. 20:51 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51 < _NSAKEY> I have no idea what their "1gig" package costs. 20:51 < _NSAKEY> That being said, I pay about $50 less for everything I've got now than I did with comcast. 20:52 < _NSAKEY> The only "data cap" is how much data you can push in a billing cycle. 20:52 <@oddball> that makes me happy 20:52 < _NSAKEY> Like I actually called them and asked about this a few months ago. 20:52 <@oddball> last time I looked, it was about the same price, but that was a while ago. 20:53 <@oddball> The gig connection is $100. 20:53 <@oddball> oops, that's with a phone plan. 20:53 <@oddball> $110 plus the TV package without phone. 20:54 <@oddball> Looks like the lowest speed they offer now is 100mbps down/50mbps up. 20:55 <@oddball> oops, no... there's the 50/20. I'm just blind 20:55 < _NSAKEY> 50/20 was kind of new when I upgraded to it. 20:56 < _NSAKEY> One downside to their IPTV boxes is that you can't stream local content with them. 20:56 < _NSAKEY> Not sure if that's something you care about, but it's worth pointing out. 20:56 <@oddball> I've already got local streming well covered. 20:58 < _NSAKEY> Oh wow, I think I'm paying too much for internet service now. 20:59 <@oddball> oh? 20:59 < _NSAKEY> I'm going to have to look at a bill, but yeah. 21:00 < _NSAKEY> Telcos sure do love to gouge non-contract customers. 21:00 <@oddball> yep 21:02 < _NSAKEY> Looks like a $10 difference. 21:02 < RangerZ1> https://type0.na.square-enix.com/sweepstakes/ those consoles look pretty nice actually 21:03 <@Dagmar> You are kidding me 21:03 <@Dagmar> I move a dirt stockpile by undeclaring the dirt stockpile on the surface, and *bam*... Dirt golem. 21:05 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: just set priorities 21:05 < RangerZ1> and then 'clean floor' 21:05 < RangerZ1> they will 'clean' the stockpile 21:05 < RangerZ1> part of me wonders if golems 'add' resources... 21:06 < RangerZ1> b/c I'd be tempted to 'farm' golems of rare materials... lol 21:06 < RangerZ1> _NSAKEY: I made the mistake of calling comcast business one day, to find out rates 21:07 < RangerZ1> once a month now they call me, and few times a month they mail me 21:07 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: It was basically instant 21:07 <@Dagmar> I might as well have clicked "make golem" 21:07 < RangerZ1> are you sure you aren't playing dungeon keeper? 21:08 < RangerZ1> I'm pretty sure it DID have that button... 21:11 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 21:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 21:21 <@Evilpig> the best way to get rid of a stockpile of dirt or stone now is to use the push/pull options to move it to another store 21:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah I see what they're there for now 21:22 <@Dagmar> Previously I'd just make a new stockpile and do away with the old one and let the gnomes figure the rest out 21:22 <@Evilpig> I like those options for making small 1 crate/1 barrel food/drink stores next to my front entrance, down in the mine, etc 21:47 <@oddball> Oh, since both RangerZ1 and Dagmar are online, how was the meeting Friday? 21:48 <@Dagmar> Dull 21:49 <@Evilpig> in other words... normal? 21:49 <@oddball> heh 21:59 <@Evilpig> damn scene assholes got their numbering off 22:00 <@Evilpig> S15E14 instead of S15E13 22:47 * oddball starts up the second episode of Galavant. 22:57 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 22:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 23:15 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 23:16 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 23:33 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: bleh] 23:50 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: CSI? I just noticed that as well :/ --- Log closed Mon Jan 05 00:00:36 2015