--- Log opened Wed Dec 31 00:00:01 2014 --- Day changed Wed Dec 31 2014 00:00 < _NSAKEY> The tech has gotten cheaper, but basically you can get a HackRF and if you catch the fob being used, you get one half of the puzzle. 00:00 < _NSAKEY> Then you have to bruteforce the code with the other half, basically impersonating the fob. 00:00 <@Dagmar> I suspect they are designed with the assumption that they only need to pass a checksum 00:00 < _NSAKEY> That can take up to 2 hours. 00:00 < RangerZ> Dagmar: sorta 00:00 < _NSAKEY> According to the research at the time. 00:00 < _NSAKEY> Car fobs use rolling codes. 00:00 <@Dagmar> Like the checksum will match a number identifying the vehicle or something along those lines 00:01 < _NSAKEY> The only way the owner would suspect anything is when they went to use their fob and got nothing. 00:01 < RangerZ> they have a rolling set of access codes, ~250 or so... and the car will accept ~30 of them at a time 00:01 <@Dagmar> KNow the formula, pwn a vehicle in one round of eavesdrop 00:01 < _NSAKEY> Clicking again would use the next code, which would be valid. 00:01 < RangerZ> that way you can press 'unlock' over and over before you reach your car, etc 00:01 <@Dagmar> Don't know the formula, expect lots of samples required 00:02 < _NSAKEY> The amount of actual research in the wild is thin for this sort of thing, due to cars being relatively expensive. 00:02 < RangerZ> my understanding was it wasn't even a 'formula' just a _set_ of codes 00:02 < RangerZ> but ... I forget where I heard that offhand... so who knows... 00:02 <@Dagmar> Well, the system you describe would cause someone's keyfob to stop working if they sat out of range of the vehicle and just pushed the fob repeatedly 00:02 <@Dagmar> Seeing as how i haven't heard of that happening, I'm going with my suspected mechanism 00:03 <@Dagmar> The things clearly don't have enough beef to do a complex computation 00:04 < RangerZ> I still want to get an NFC skimmer 00:04 < RangerZ> and play around with amiibos 00:05 < RangerZ> because it is using _EC_ crypto, but small values 00:05 < RangerZ> I think it wouldn't be _too_ hard to brute force find the key 00:05 <@Dagmar> ja see the article on news.ycombinator about it 00:08 < RangerZ> no 00:08 < RangerZ> I don't keep up on that site as much as I should 00:08 <@Dagmar> Someone posted an article with a simplified explanation of EC 00:08 < RangerZ> ? 00:08 < RangerZ> its not 'that' hard in the first place 00:09 < RangerZ> still uses the same principle as RSA in that factoring of primes will break it 00:11 < RangerZ> honestly I think RSA is more complex, requiring chinese remainder theorm, etc to figure out how it works 00:18 < RangerZ> http://bgr.com/2014/12/23/why-is-comcast-so-bad-29/ 00:19 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIx3NbFXpZg journalists and law-makers get 'priority service' cards from comcast lobbiests 00:20 <@Dagmar> Their corporate focus is on maintaining power and control. 00:22 < RangerZ> pretty much 00:25 < RangerZ> sure as fuck isn't bringing 1000Mbit fiber to my apartment 00:28 <@Dagmar> That's the thing that bugs me 00:28 <@Dagmar> Infrastructure upgrades aren't that fuckin' expensive 00:28 <@Dagmar> If they weren't eaten up with greed they could actually do those and still turn a profit 00:29 <@Dagmar> Instead they spend massive amounts of money on lobbying, which perpetuates the broken system 00:30 < RangerZ> well Oil Companies get ~4~5 billion a year in subsidies ... or something like that 00:31 < RangerZ> and they aren't profitable enough 00:41 < RangerZ> also... am I suppose to feel bad for the girl who got shot by her own gun when her 2 year old reached into her handbag and pulled it out and shot her? 00:42 < RangerZ> I mean... lets not have a safety on the gun... or anything... 00:42 <@Dagmar> That would be why this is a case of poor gun storage 00:42 <@Dagmar> The weapon was improperly stored. 00:42 <@oddball> Yeah... going to agree with Dagmar on this one. 00:43 <@oddball> Sucks that she's dead and the kid no longer has a mom, but... 00:44 <@oddball> And, for the record, a *lot* of guns don't have safeties beyond "don't pull the trigger." 00:45 <@oddball> I haven't seen what she had in her purse, but I'm going to guess it was a Glock (no actual safety, fairly light trigger) and just floating around in her bag instead of in a holster where it should have been. 00:48 < RangerZ> THIS is what I expect to be the first outlawed 'drone' thing out there... finding fault with big companies/farms/oil rigs/etc 00:48 < RangerZ> https://www.upworthy.com/a-drone-flew-over-a-pig-farm-to-discover-its-not-really-a-farm-its-something-much-more-disturbing 00:49 < RangerZ> http://tinyurl.com/q5a3ral 00:49 <@Dagmar> They're already passing laws against flying drones over such farms. 00:49 <@Dagmar> ...and no, that's not even a little bit suspicious. 00:51 < RangerZ> yeah... "little" disgusting... especially the "spraying it into the air where it drifts onto neighbor's houses" 00:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah. I'd start a "little" fire over that 00:57 <@Dagmar> I might not burn down to bedrock 00:57 < RangerZ> ha 00:57 < RangerZ> 'sure' 00:58 < RangerZ> "why did one of our military drones think it was firing at a target in syria but it hit a pig farm that just opened in Nashville" 00:59 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't go that far 00:59 <@Dagmar> Thermite and Trebuchet 01:00 < RangerZ> hehe 01:04 <@Dagmar> Seriously. Spraying sewage onto a man's house? 01:05 <@Dagmar> What other way is to take that beyond a declaration of warfare? 01:05 <@Dagmar> Not like, atom bomb warfare, but driving those motherfuckers to move, absolutely 01:05 < RangerZ2> ohh... I'm right there with you 01:09 <@Dagmar> "They all laughed at Newton, and he went on to invent the apple." 01:11 <@Dagmar> "The Search". 01:11 <@Dagmar> Appears to be a BBC thing about a below-average intelligence UFO hunter 01:19 <@Dagmar> So... 01:19 <@Dagmar> How would you encode information to broadcast if time weren't a constant? 01:43 < RangerZ2> upon triggers 01:44 < RangerZ2> "release when I say so" 01:44 < RangerZ2> hehe 01:57 <@Dagmar> No, I think you miss the point 01:58 <@Dagmar> Let's say that over very long distances, refraction might well make a significant difference in the distance traveled 02:03 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:07 <@Dagmar> Oh this is worth reading http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2014/12/30/10583474.aspx 02:11 < RangerZ2> ohh I got the deeper inplications, I just thought the joke was funny... and more accurate than we'd probably guess, because at that point we're going to have to spin atomic clocks at almos the speed of light to 'normalize' them 02:12 <@Dagmar> Actually I was thinking it might be possible to send two polarized signals 02:12 < RangerZ2> _if_ that holds true universally, and doesn't break down closer to the speed of light, etc 02:12 <@Dagmar> They'd need to be parsed in tandem 02:12 < RangerZ2> possibly 02:13 < RangerZ2> or... pre-compute the distrotion 02:13 < RangerZ2> and use pulsars to count time 02:13 < RangerZ2> if BSG can get away with the pulsar BS they did 02:13 <@Dagmar> Not really sure one could pre-compute that 02:13 < RangerZ2> ;) 02:13 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:14 < RangerZ2> depends, if we're talking gravity well distortions/etc and speed travelled 02:14 < RangerZ2> it wouldn't be impossible 02:14 < RangerZ2> we'll probably have the formulas for that before FTL drives 02:14 < RangerZ2> man... I hope I'm wrong... and we get FTL drives in 3 years.... 02:15 < RangerZ2> lol 02:15 < RangerZ2> but night 02:16 < aestetix> RangerZ2: your internet sucks 02:17 < RangerZ2> aestetix: comcast is being fuckwads tonight in particular 02:17 < aestetix> you know 02:17 < aestetix> net neutrality will be useless if all you have to choose from is comcast 02:18 < RangerZ2> yep 02:18 < RangerZ2> which is why I'm still pinning my hopes on things like mayday and wolf-pac 02:18 < RangerZ2> constitional limits on campaign donations 02:18 < RangerZ2> 50$ a person voucher, that you can split among any # of canidates you want nation wide 02:18 < RangerZ2> no more 02:19 < RangerZ2> and you don't have to spend it 02:19 < RangerZ2> etc 02:19 < RangerZ2> so apparently... most media company's (that broadcast to end-users) barely make a profit or lose money except for political ads 02:19 < RangerZ2> THAT is where they make their money 02:20 < RangerZ2> so thats why 'big media' doesn't want to talk about it 02:22 < _NSAKEY> Did anyone else remember this story when that mom got shot by her toddler? http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/01/04/policeman-killed.htm 02:28 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:29 <@Dagmar> No, but it's a pretty good parallel 02:29 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:37 -!- klixa [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lnhpesngmsrnkrnf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:40 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:23 <@Dagmar> heh 03:23 <@Dagmar> I just got email from twitter asking me to log back in 03:23 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdn82Cvta7I [NYPD Work Stoppage Causes Arrests To Decrease 66%] 03:24 <@Dagmar> I suspect this means they may have noticed a drop-off in "usage" after the jillion or so Android users got knocked off 03:24 < RangerZ> I see no problem with the NYPD's "protest" against the NY Mayor 03:24 < RangerZ> no traffic or non-violent citations 03:24 <@Dagmar> I think that might be the first city to come apart at the seams over this 03:25 < RangerZ> apparently the NYPD is doing this because they don't want civil oversight 03:25 <@Dagmar> ...but I'll bet the city is pretty happy about no more "hall monitor" work 03:25 < RangerZ> and they are negotiating union contract right now 03:25 <@Dagmar> They _need_ civil oversight 03:26 < RangerZ> i agree 03:26 <@Dagmar> I think they *absolutely* need it 03:26 < RangerZ> but thats why 100s(1000s) of police turned their back to the mayor at the funeral 03:26 < RangerZ> b/c they don't want oversight 03:26 < RangerZ> not 'safety' 03:26 <@Dagmar> It's a very dangerous route they're going down 03:26 < RangerZ> you know what... 03:27 < RangerZ> if they don't want to work... fine... hire people who do 03:27 <@Dagmar> Hire people who want to wear cameras 03:27 < RangerZ> yep 03:27 < RangerZ> hell wave the past crime limitations 03:27 < RangerZ> "you know how crime works... come be a cop and stop it" 03:28 < RangerZ> lol 03:28 <@Dagmar> Not sure that would be a great idea 03:28 < RangerZ> ...what... put the cops 'biggest fans' in patrol cars with old guard? 03:28 < RangerZ> how is that a bad idea... 03:28 < RangerZ> -_- 03:28 < RangerZ> lol 03:29 <@Dagmar> Oh, just thinking about a bunch of russians taking over a precinct 03:29 < RangerZ> hehe 03:29 <@Dagmar> I mean I do agree the plan would have _some_ merit, but the risks outweigh them in my eyes 03:30 < RangerZ> yeah i know, i was thinking more of the blacks who got stop&frisked 100+ times 03:30 < RangerZ> "look who your new lt. it..." 03:30 < RangerZ> lol 03:31 < RangerZ> is* 03:31 <@Dagmar> Not everyone is as rational or cool-headed enough to realize we're actually in deep shit 03:31 < RangerZ> but yeah... gonna "try" and sleep again 03:31 <@Dagmar> There would be opportunists 03:31 < RangerZ> Dagmar: yeah... i know :/ 03:32 < RangerZ> but I'm _FINE_ with hiring cops from outside the city again, and giving them 3mo to move to the city 03:32 < RangerZ> the _Precinct_ they are to protect 03:41 < aestetix> yeah NYPD and de Blasio are not getting along so well 03:43 < aestetix> Dagmar: jusdging from the 31c3 talks, we're in deep shit on many levels 03:45 < aestetix> RangerZ: https://twitter.com/Bipartisanism/status/550161120510480384 03:52 < RangerZ> "#NYPDslowdown - proof that 90% less people can be harassed by cops and there still isn't chaos in the streets. #TimeForLayoffs" 03:58 < RangerZ> "Does the #NYPDslowdown of harassment tactics for low level offenses mean that broken windows is on hold? If so, #ThanksNYPD (for real!)" 03:59 < RangerZ> god damn that story... keeping me online reading... 03:59 < RangerZ> but yeah... NYPD... is losing this PR battle ... hard... 04:00 < RangerZ> they are SO lucky tomorrow is 31st 04:00 < RangerZ> if this hit on a normal news day... it would be whats on ALL the major news shows 04:07 < aestetix> heh 04:07 < aestetix> it reminds me of after the mike brwn thing happened in ferguson 04:07 < aestetix> a black kid twittered or something that he wanted the cops to shoot and kill him 04:07 < aestetix> and sure enough the next day they did 04:10 < RangerZ> well "he asked for it" 04:10 * RangerZ hangs head in shame at that bad joke... 04:11 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFif4gFqXFk another autopsy implies that cop report doesn't jive... 04:22 < aestetix> wow 04:22 < aestetix> Windows 7 is a serious resource hog compared to XP 04:34 < RangerZ> ? 04:35 < RangerZ> I never really noticed as much 04:35 < RangerZ> but you _need_ more ram either way 04:35 < RangerZ> same with andriod 04:35 < RangerZ> newer versions always need more ram 05:37 < aestetix> why do you need more ram? 05:37 < aestetix> because the code is slow/shitty? :p 07:10 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:11 <@Dolemite> RangerZ: But it is actually more lean than the previous version, Vista 08:28 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 08:55 < aestetix> http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/barack-obama-had-a-really-terrible-year-20141230 09:37 < Synx|hm> peeps i need some help 09:37 < Synx|hm> im pulling my hair out here 09:37 < Synx|hm> i have two servers connected to a cisco nexus 7K switch both servers on the same card 09:38 < Synx|hm> if i place sip calls IP to IP between to two i get significant jitter 09:38 < Synx|hm> i cant figure this one out, ive tried changing frame size, (both high and low), flow control, port settings etc 09:38 < Synx|hm> nothing 09:41 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@adsl-065-015-088-035.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 09:55 < Synx|hm> FUCK THE CITRIX ICA CLIENT 09:55 < Synx|hm> seriously FUCK IT IN ITS FUCKING FACE 09:58 < Warcop> I agree 10:00 <@northrup> Synx|hm: did you resolve the jitter down to being on ICA? 10:01 < Synx|hm> ha no sorry different issue 10:01 < Synx|hm> the fucking ICA app no matter what i put in the .ica file for resolution etc opens a window twice the size of my 30in monitor 10:01 < Synx|hm> its making it near impossible to control many RDP sessions 10:02 <@northrup> Haha!!! 10:02 < Synx|hm> its driving me insane 10:02 < Synx|hm> ive had similar issues with ICA before but this one takes the cake 10:04 * Dolemite thinks that Synx may have some unresolved anger issues towards Citrix 10:04 < Synx|hm> im ready to tell this customer to go fuck themselves because of their shitty citrix app 10:04 < Synx|hm> ha 10:05 < Synx|hm> what is compounding the issue here is i have to be in a VPN, then in another IPsec tunnel, then citrix RDP to a server to RDP out of to many boxs 10:06 <@northrup> oh jesus... ever feel like the polar bear juggling the ball on it's nose at the circus? How many more hoops do you need to jump through to get to someones dumb shit. 10:07 <@Dolemite> OMFG. Today's xkcd is Dru / JonnyX. 10:08 <@northrup> Ha 10:08 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 10:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 10:13 < RangerZ> Dolemite: wow... xkcd _really_ is dru 10:14 <@Dolemite> ayep 10:14 <@Dolemite> I even texted Evilpig to get his evilass out of his evilbed to go check it out 10:16 < aestetix> Maybe I should send some questions to jonnyx 10:16 <@Dolemite> you'll need to send via fax if you want him to read them 10:16 < Synx|hm> faxting haha 10:16 <@klixa> aestetix: why are you up at 7am? :P 10:16 <@Dolemite> or post to some obscure usenet group 10:16 < aestetix> klixa: about to go to sleep :p 10:17 <@klixa> aestetix: oh...a night person...i just woke up 10:17 <@klixa> :/ 10:17 <@klixa> gainst my will 10:17 <@klixa> against* 10:17 <@klixa> damn i havent used a laptop in weeks this is so weird to type now 10:19 < aestetix> I have a whole list of questions to send to jonnyx now 10:19 < aestetix> maybe he and Corydon can answer them together 10:20 <@klixa> a gossipey member of you people said johnny x is dying and thats why hes so insane and should get a free pass for it 10:20 <@Dolemite> we're all dying 10:21 < aestetix> klixa: lemme guess, it was ware 10:21 <@klixa> im not saying who it was... but i will relay the info just cause its not MY secret to have kept... it was theirs to keep apparently 10:22 <@klixa> tho i think its propaganda anyway as a way for jx to get sypathy and an excuse to mess everything up 10:22 <@Dolemite> So his dying wish was to make PhreakNIC collapse on itself? That makes a lot of sense. 10:22 <@Dolemite> Wait, never mind. I'm unplugging myself from this morass. 10:23 < aestetix> I wonder if ware likes butt play. 10:23 <@klixa> its just an explanation of why certain people are being so tolerant and voted him back in 10:24 <@Dolemite> according to Corydon, ware does at least like having a battery or two shoved up his ass 10:24 <@klixa> thats tmi 10:26 <@Dolemite> Yeah, with Corydon no longer hanging out on IRC, I guess the bar has been brought back down to a more normal level 10:26 < aestetix> klixa: no, what is TMI is that Corydon knows this about ware 10:26 <@Dolemite> s/knows/claims 10:26 <@Dolemite> ware vehemently denies it 10:26 <@klixa> Dolemite: nah, aestetix is still here... that bar is still sketchy 10:27 < aestetix> Well given that I doubt ware would brag about batteries like that, I suspect there is some truth to it. 10:27 <@klixa> does ware come here? i have no idea who this person is 10:27 < aestetix> Did he say what kind of batteries? Like triple As or a car battery? 10:27 <@klixa> the only size that makes sense is c's 10:27 <@klixa> :P 10:28 <@northrup> I was going to go there... 10:28 <@oddball> Wait.... there's a bar? 10:28 < aestetix> actually since the anus is a cavity, I suppose you could have two enemas separated by a wall that create a galvanic reaction 10:28 <@Dolemite> ware used to hang out here until the schism between Nashville 2600 and Hacker Consortium 10:29 <@Dolemite> He then lurked here for a while and would tell on us whenever someone mentioned skydog 10:29 < Warcop> keepass with an 8 character password. anyone familiar with keepass and how secure it really is? 10:29 < Warcop> figure i'd ask you guys 10:29 <@Dolemite> keepass is a really good app 10:30 <@northrup> I'll second that 10:30 < Synx|hm> lastpass ftw, i swear by it with yubikey two factor 10:30 <@oddball> Dolemite: He is apparently still logged in here. 10:30 < Synx|hm> but ya ive used keepass many a time 10:30 <@Dolemite> But as far as security goes, if your 8 character password is password... 10:30 <@oddball> Although, I would guess it's similar to me sill being logged into their chatroom. 10:32 < Warcop> Thanks for the feedback. 10:32 <@klixa> keep ass, what a name 10:32 <@klixa> hes logging thats why hes here...alll people who idle are spying on you 10:32 <@klixa> o_O 10:50 -!- ladymerlin [ladymerlin@mail.bbis.us] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:51 -!- ladymerlin [ladymerlin@mail.bbis.us] has joined #se2600 10:55 < Warcop> what about securing a password list to be used by multiple people. AKA a support team.. 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GO! 14:06 <@Evilpig> I can only do overlays involving you and goats 14:07 <@rattle> Trouble. 14:07 <@Evilpig> it's a niche market, but I am pretty strong in it 14:08 <@rattle> Just look at those three links I presented above, and tell me you wouldn't laugh out loud for days if you accomplished the task... 14:08 <@Evilpig> oh I did, an dI would 14:08 <@Evilpig> but that would involve getting out of bed and neither of these cats seems like they agree with that idea 14:08 <@rattle> Well, then, pig fucker it up! 14:10 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@107-213-137-80.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:23 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:24 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 14:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 14:29 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:37 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has joined #se2600 14:37 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has quit [Changing host] 14:37 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 14:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 14:48 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:48 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has joined #se2600 14:57 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has joined #se2600 14:57 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:01 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has joined #se2600 15:04 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:09 -!- klixa [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqccvfdnrlnfjmbo] has joined #se2600 15:09 -!- klixa [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqccvfdnrlnfjmbo] has quit [Changing host] 15:09 -!- klixa [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:09 -!- klixa [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Changing host] 15:09 -!- klixa [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqccvfdnrlnfjmbo] has joined #se2600 15:09 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by sendak.freenode.net 15:12 <@shapr> aestetix: seen https://twitter.com/shapr/status/550073569976516610 ? 15:15 -!- dasunt [~dasunt@unaffiliated/dasunt] has joined #se2600 15:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dasunt] by ChanServ 15:29 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@23.31.156.193] has joined #se2600 15:51 -!- CRasH181 is now known as CRasH180 15:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has quit [Changing host] 15:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 15:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 16:15 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIA0i6rKMi8 [Hardware Hacker Builds Custom Pip-Boy 3000 - IGN News] 16:15 < RangerZ> http://sweatmanscientific.com/entry/pipboy-3000-mark-1-1-3.html his detailed guide/plans/etc 16:26 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EJyR4o4Wk This is a really interesting interview 16:26 < RangerZ> [Why America Needs a New Kind of Labor Movement (w/ Thomas Geoghegan)] 16:26 < RangerZ> key is _new kind_ of labor movement, not like the old unions 16:27 < RangerZ> I think it is really applicable in IT, despite him never saying that, but I think its more applicable in tech than most fields 16:39 <@CRasH180> Any recommendations on a good, reasonably priced 802.11ac router for my home? 16:42 <@Dagmar> Oh lewk! Midnight abductions! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/30/1354745/-To-Discipline-and-Punish-Milwaukee-Police-Make-Late-Night-Visit 16:50 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@162.218.105.210] has joined #se2600 16:53 -!- Warcop [~zadeaux@23.31.156.193] has quit [] 17:16 < RangerZ> CRasH180: http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/wndr3700.aspx this N one has worked well for me, I'd guess the ac ver would be good 17:17 < RangerZ> Dagmar: thats fucking bullshit 17:18 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: http://forums.gnomoria.com/index.php?topic=7442.msg56644#msg56644 17:18 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck 17:18 <@Dagmar> Gnomish engineering? My fortress is fucked. 17:18 <@Evilpig> lol 17:18 < RangerZ> lol 17:18 <@Evilpig> i'm waiting on some engineers to tinker up the new limbs 17:22 < RangerZ> oh god... robots are going to steal our jobs even in gnomoria... 17:23 < RangerZ> lol 17:28 <@Dagmar> I don't get it 17:28 <@Dagmar> https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.1307459,-86.7630332/36.1308819,-86.7630062/@36.1307596,-86.7623969,18z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0 17:28 <@Dagmar> Why no "Turn Left" in the driving directions 17:32 <@CRasH180> Thanks RangerZ 17:33 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:34 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @northrup, EnabrinTain, @am1n0 17:47 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa_] by ChanServ 17:49 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrrasgdkprrbgboc] has joined #se2600 17:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: northrup 17:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o northrup] by ChanServ 18:04 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa_] by ChanServ 18:15 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:15 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 18:20 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:26 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 18:26 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 18:26 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 18:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 18:29 -!- klixa [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqccvfdnrlnfjmbo] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:29 -!- klixa_ is now known as klixa 18:30 <@Dagmar> Wait... what? http://the-toast.net/2014/12/08/defeated-tolkien-estate/view-all/ 18:30 <@Dagmar> "Tolkien refers to Quendi people as 'elves,' a common term in his time, but considered highly offensive today." 18:30 <@Dagmar> o.O 18:33 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:35 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@162.218.105.210] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 18:40 -!- mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 18:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mirage] by ChanServ 19:02 -!- vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:02 -!- vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has joined #se2600 19:04 < RangerZ> Dagmar: dafuq 19:06 < RangerZ> is that an 'onion' type site? 19:10 <@klixa> why is irc filled with so many stupid bitches who just wanna try to fuck up your day? 19:10 <@Evilpig> estrogen? 19:10 < _NSAKEY> klixa: Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. 19:10 < _NSAKEY> The internet is full of people screaming "SHITCOCK!" all day. 19:11 <@klixa> i left one of my channels cause i have several people who like to harass me...but then i make a joke about somehting and have ops all over me 19:11 <@klixa> Evilpig: i meant bitch in the spineless sense...like petty 19:14 < _NSAKEY> Isn't IRC a drama circlejerk no matter the circumstances? 19:15 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: maybe... but i wanna be part of the circle not on the outside! 19:15 <@Evilpig> klixa: pretty sure it's my job to add sexist remarks at every opportunity 19:15 <@klixa> Evilpig: oh, well, carry on then 19:16 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: my complaint is people who get into an argument with you...then 6 months later still taking jabs at you when you have had them on /ignore for ages 19:16 < _NSAKEY> klixa: Sounds about right. 19:20 <@Evilpig> fuckin' cat. I turn around and bitch had plopped down on the laptop 19:22 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Serves you right for introducing something made of warm into the environment. 19:24 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37 <@Evilpig> hrmm. seen my monitor flip off a few times now but the tv didn't 19:42 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:43 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:53 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@unaffiliated/am1n0] has joined #se2600 19:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o am1n0] by ChanServ 19:54 -!- mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:54 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 19:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 19:59 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 20:00 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:04 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:04 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 20:16 <@Dagmar> In case you didn't already see it http://www.adweek.com/adfreak/pornhub-erects-huge-billboard-times-square-after-long-search-great-non-pornographic-ad-160632 20:18 <@Evilpig> another one? 20:18 <@Evilpig> the first one they put up lasted barely a day 20:19 <@Evilpig> dude.. that's from october 20:19 <@Dagmar> No, it's probably the original one 20:19 <@Evilpig> I see nothing wrong with it and was shocked it was taken down so fast 20:43 <@Dagmar> I did enjoy the song. :) 20:46 <@Evilpig> uh oh... dagmar's head voices have started singing instead of just talking 20:47 <@Dagmar> No, they hired a chorus to sing "All You Need Is Hand" 20:48 <@Dagmar> My internal singing will begin once I've ingested more of my Three Ill-Advised Men 20:48 <@Dagmar> Captain Morgan, Mister Smirnoff, and Shawty (sake) 20:48 <@Dagmar> Nifty bottle the sake comes in tho 20:48 <@Dagmar> For $18 it better be good 20:56 < RangerZ> hehe... ended the chorus with 'jazz hands' too 20:56 < RangerZ> that was amusing 20:56 <@Dagmar> http://www.wineofjapan.com/node/130 20:59 < RangerZ> so... apparently its a right wing meme that al sharpten 'has blood on his hands' for two cops killed in NYC... jesus... sure... don't like the guy... but don't make shit up to blame on him... a psycho who killed his ex and the drove to NYC to commit suicide by cop... and then got chicken shit while even doing that and took his own life before more cops could show up... has nothing to do with anyone who thinks that police brutality has g 20:59 < RangerZ> a psycho who killed his ex and the drove to NYC to commit @ │shapr │ 20:59 < RangerZ> │suicide by cop... and then got chicken shit while even doing that and took his own life │_specialk_ │ 20:59 < RangerZ> │before more cops could show up... has nothing to do with anyone who thinks that police ▒ │strages │ 20:59 < RangerZ> │brutality has gone too far 20:59 < RangerZ> ok... well fuck copy/pasting from finch 21:00 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: The NYPD really sounds like it's overstepping its bounds with all this whining. 21:01 < RangerZ> did you see the quotes and links posted late last night? 21:01 < _NSAKEY> I just love how they're essentially doing what everyone wanted them to do in the first place with their passive-aggressive "strike." 21:01 < RangerZ> arrests down 66% 21:01 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, I laughed. 21:01 < RangerZ> traffic citations down 90%, drug arrests down 96% 21:02 < RangerZ> I honestly believed the 'broken windows' theory would help with policing 21:02 < RangerZ> but I didn't realize how un-even it would be applied 21:02 < RangerZ> where was all the _stop & frisks_ on wall street 21:02 < RangerZ> ohh no... just in brooklyn, etc 21:04 < RangerZ> Dagmar: Evilpig http://forums.gnomoria.com/index.php?topic=7498.0 21:04 < RangerZ> [Added automatons] 21:04 < RangerZ> they are already in apparently, not just planned 21:05 <@Dagmar> "If the core is still intact it can be used to recraft the automaton with a penalty to skills" <-- skills? Interesting 21:06 < RangerZ> so you can skill them up to be your farmers, or miners, or w/e then I take it? 21:08 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: I posted that earlier you fucker. :P just not in the RC thread 21:09 < RangerZ> fuck you pig fucker 21:09 < RangerZ> lol 21:09 < RangerZ> but the way it was in that thread it seemed to not be out yet 21:09 < RangerZ> thats all i was saying, is that its out 21:09 <@Evilpig> technically it isn't 21:09 <@Evilpig> it's in the release candidate 21:10 < RangerZ> i thought you could get RCs on steam 21:10 <@Evilpig> I didn't see it earlier when I looked 21:12 < RangerZ> i wish he'd compile against the mono API 21:12 < RangerZ> so it would work on *nix 21:12 <@Evilpig> I have it working in wine on the macbook 21:19 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvEpcrRl2l0 21:19 < RangerZ> how is college football NOT a fucking minor league 21:19 < RangerZ> it has better advertising than fucking NFL a lot of the time 21:30 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:31 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 21:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 21:35 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:35 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 21:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 21:36 < strages> RangerZ: I didn't say that 21:37 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:38 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:38 <@Evilpig> strages: I saw it on the internet, it has to be true. if it isn't true then the terrorists win 21:39 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:47 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:48 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:56 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 21:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 21:58 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 22:00 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:03 < RangerZ> strages: huh? 22:18 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 22:21 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 22:23 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:33 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 22:37 -!- CRasH182 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:58 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:10 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 23:12 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Client Quit] --- Log closed Thu Jan 01 00:00:31 2015