--- Log opened Mon Dec 29 00:00:28 2014 01:16 < sasquatc4> hmmm, who knew, getting flickering on my home projector again, last time epson had to send me a replacement cause of this a year ago, after searching apparently its a common thing due to the arc's in the bulbs wearing an odd path and you have to run it up on high for a while 01:24 < aestetix> http://socialtimes.com/money-youtube-partners-2013-infographic_b128421 01:27 -!- klixa [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-atxxwivmuqtvnzvh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:31 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: You like Lindy Booth, right? You really need to see tonight's Librarians episode. 02:31 <@Dagmar> OMG I forgot about that 02:33 <@Bahhumbug> Trust me on this. You _need_ to watch it. 02:33 <@Dagmar> You don't have to add extra emphasis 02:33 < aestetix> god damn 02:33 < aestetix> http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/pewdiepie 02:33 <@Dagmar> I think the plots are pretty mediocre 02:34 <@Bahhumbug> There is a plot? 02:34 < aestetix> I had no idea you could make that much money on youtube 02:56 -!- Bahhumbug_ [jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has joined #se2600 02:56 -!- Bahhumbug_ [jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has quit [Changing host] 02:56 -!- Bahhumbug_ [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 02:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug_] by ChanServ 03:00 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:00 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-10-114.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:01 -!- _specialk_ [~specialk@unaffiliated/specialk/x-2811995] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:01 -!- _specialk_ [~specialk@unaffiliated/specialk/x-2811995] has joined #se2600 03:02 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-10-114.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 03:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 03:06 <@Dagmar> OH YES! 03:06 <@Dagmar> WHEEE! 03:16 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 03:17 <@Dagmar> Perfect example of a shit plot element... irrational numbers gambit 03:18 -!- Bahhumbug_ is now known as Bahhumbug 03:19 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:08 < aestetix> hey look 07:08 < aestetix> another fantastic reason not to use facebook: http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/28/mining-the-hive-mind/ 07:22 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 07:22 < Synx|hm> morning peeps 07:28 < aestetix> god danit 07:28 < aestetix> I can't see a picture of Kim Jong-Un now without thinking about him pooping his pants 07:28 < aestetix> thanks Interview 07:28 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:29 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:30 <@Bahhumbug> I doubt the movie is to blame for that, aestetix. 07:31 < aestetix> I wonder if I can set up my spam filter to forward everything marked spam to Bahhumbug 07:35 <@Bahhumbug> You can try. I promise you it will end poorly for you. 07:38 < Synx|hm> oh sweet i blew through my comcast data cap this month 07:38 < Synx|hm> yay 07:38 < Synx|hm> fuck comcast 07:41 <@Bahhumbug> Caps. How quaint. 07:41 <@Bahhumbug> What _are_ comcrap caps? 250G? 07:41 < Synx|hm> 300G 07:44 < Synx|hm> i have made a critical error 07:45 < Synx|hm> put in 3 new 3TB 7200 rpm drives into my file server to use for zfs pool 07:45 < Synx|hm> neglected to account for the amount of heat they would put out in combination with my other 6 2TB 5200 rpm drives 07:45 < Synx|hm> now ive got delta fans in there at 50% duty cycle and the noise is significant to keep these things cooled 07:46 < Synx|hm> at 100% duty cycle you can hear them in every room in the house both floors 07:58 < Synx|hm> i have an arduino generating the PWM for the fans right now because my motherboard will not output the PWM correctly (supermicro, and their support refuses to provide help and tells me to adjust bios settings that do not exist), ive got to pull the arduino though to reprogram it and dont want to wake up everyone in the house 08:11 <@Evilpig> lol 08:18 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:30 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has joined #se2600 08:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 08:30 <@RangerZ> https://imgur.com/zKVRMsS 08:30 <@RangerZ> SFW 08:31 <@Evilpig> HAHAHAHAH http://explosm.net/comics/3789/ 08:34 <@Evilpig> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20141224 08:38 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: even though i know its JIF i refuse 08:40 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: same 08:41 <@RangerZ> I would die with my honor 08:41 <@RangerZ> "Giff me liberty or giff me death!!" 08:42 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:42 < Synx|hm> ya i saw that comment haha 08:48 <@Evilpig> Oh wow.. LOL didn't see that coming 08:56 < Synx|hm> i feel like im about to vomit ugh 08:59 <@Evilpig> ummmm... don't? 08:59 < Synx|hm> thanks 08:59 <@Evilpig> I'm sorting through tv show stuff 09:00 < Synx|hm> i just found a shit load of stuff in latin1 that rsync now refuses to send over to my ZFS pool that is UTF-8 09:00 < Synx|hm> fml 09:00 < Synx|hm> i dont mind -iconv however its all shit that is linked to seeding torrents 09:06 <@Evilpig> rofl https://www.dropbox.com/s/6z6b85u2xm94hyx/Screen%20Shot%202014-12-29%20at%209.02.21%20AM.png?dl=0 09:07 < Synx|hm> nice 09:07 < Synx|hm> i need to clean out my old tv shows 09:07 <@Evilpig> I've been filling in gaps 09:07 < Synx|hm> fucking nzbdrone just grabbed an entire season of a show i dont watch anymore, that did not help my BW cap 09:08 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: sadly, vuze has one of the best RSS clients out there 09:09 <@RangerZ> its why I still use it, b/c I can just copy my config file from/to every machines b/c of java 09:09 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: i've done over 10 times your bandwidth cap this month 09:09 <@Evilpig> total transfer this month, if this this is tracking right. 3.5TB 09:11 < Synx|hm> ugh makes me depressed 09:11 <@RangerZ> thats what bandwidth caps are for 09:11 <@RangerZ> to prevent us from all being that 09:11 <@Evilpig> nah. bandwidth caps are there to make you pay more for the service you're already paying for 09:11 <@RangerZ> nah 09:11 <@RangerZ> its to limit usage 09:12 <@Evilpig> explain phone minutes then 09:12 <@Evilpig> I pay for 600 minutes a month but have unlimited mobile to mobile 09:12 <@RangerZ> they had psychologists do studies and shit on how it works, and they do it because of that 09:12 <@Evilpig> the minutes are a limit on my plan to limit my usage of the phone? 09:12 <@RangerZ> minutes on a phone are a different beast 09:12 <@RangerZ> I'm talking ISPs 09:13 <@Evilpig> this month was a heavy month for me cause I was testing out some new shit. normally i'm in the 1.5-2tb range 09:14 < aestetix> well today is gonna suck for me 09:14 < Synx|hm> i may have to give comcast business class a try 09:15 < aestetix> can't sleep, and I have to be up in 3 hours for a day full of meetings and appointments appropriately spaced out so I don't get a break 09:15 <@Evilpig> dna test results coming back on that paternity test, aestetix ? 09:15 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: just watch out for the contract length 09:15 < Synx|hm> but a fucking contract on a copper line when i provide all my own equipment is fucking stupid 09:15 < Synx|hm> and the line is already in place 09:15 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: I'm just waiting for google fiber in nashville 09:15 < aestetix> Evilpig: yes it turns out Bahhumbug is the father. 09:15 <@RangerZ> we're one of the 'next phase' cities 09:15 < Synx|hm> why the fuck do i have to promise to remain a customer when they have to do absolutly ZERO to provision me this line as its already in place and tested 09:16 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: because "fuck you, thats why" 09:16 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: google has already started filing franchise paperwork, though they have not accounted we are officially selected, that is a good indication that we are 09:16 <@RangerZ> 'ohh' 09:16 <@RangerZ> *keeps quiet* 09:16 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: its going to take a while though for anything to happen, and im half a block from any fiber so i doubt ill be in the intial rollout 09:16 <@RangerZ> I didn't know they hadn't announced it publicly 09:16 < Synx|hm> oh 09:17 <@RangerZ> I'm just wondering if I'll have to move... 09:17 <@RangerZ> lol 09:17 <@RangerZ> my apartment right now is pretty nice for the price 09:18 <@RangerZ> my friend from SF almost cried when she saw it and I told her how much I paid 09:18 <@RangerZ> lol 09:19 <@RangerZ> still 150$ under market rate, b/c I moved in when NO ONE was renting, and rent was only 595$/mo for 1k sq.ft. lol 09:19 <@RangerZ> and even with yearly increases, still cheaper than most places 09:19 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: nothing official from google on their fiber expansion website, tell me what you know!!! 09:20 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:21 <@RangerZ> i know that Evilpig isn't wearing any pants right now 09:21 <@RangerZ> nor is oddball 09:22 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: google has filed paperwork with the state to lease teh fiber network in nashville and they have some job positions posted for nashville support but they have them listed as telecommute positions 09:22 <@Evilpig> in other cities where they have fiber in place they have posted positions for people to be on site. 09:22 <@Evilpig> that's all that is known at this time 09:24 <@RangerZ> nothing official, just that google really liked the prospect of nashville fiber, because of the $-issues, lots of potential customers, and the city was among the most accomidating 09:24 <@RangerZ> the city's CTO (or something) is from SillyValley, and a 'known quantity' out there 09:24 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 09:26 <@RangerZ> http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/29/justice/police-shot-at/ 09:27 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:28 <@RangerZ> also... god damn it... Cleveland is playing Tennessee next year in NFL, but in CLEV 09:30 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:42 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 09:47 < aestetix> well yep today my sleep schedule is totally fucked 09:47 < aestetix> that's what I get for staying up until 8am the last three nights watching CCC videos 09:56 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 10:01 <@benthemeek> I survived christmas 10:02 < aestetix> benthemeek: you should download the lectures I shared with you 10:02 <@Dolemite> I survived the flu 10:02 <@Dolemite> Better luck next time! muahahahahaha 10:02 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: That sucks 10:03 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I don't think that flu shot of yours took. maybe you should go get another one 10:03 <@benthemeek> did you manage to get over it in time to enjoy festivities? 10:04 <@Dolemite> Yeah, all 4 of us had the flu, but were out of the contagion phase by Tuesday and nothing was going to stop the kids from opening presents, anyway. 10:04 < aestetix> Dolemite: did you get any presents? 10:05 <@benthemeek> aestetix: I will if I get some time. My theological study time is short these days ;) 10:05 < aestetix> benthemeek: I consider it historical rather than theological. 10:05 < aestetix> but, fair enough 10:05 <@benthemeek> Evilpig: I also got to try the super smash bros with 6 players at once. It was pretty great 10:07 <@benthemeek> aestetix: What topics, time periods do these lectures cover? 10:07 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Yes, I did 10:07 <@Evilpig> only 6? 10:07 <@Evilpig> players 5 - 8 are chaotic for sure 10:07 < aestetix> benthemeek: early christian history. Specifically, what the politics of the times were, etc. 10:08 < aestetix> I just think it's interesting. Feel free to ignore me :) 10:08 < aestetix> however, it helps explain a lot of elements and misunderstandings in our culture today 10:09 < aestetix> like why the christians and jews hate each other, etc 10:13 <@benthemeek> aestetix: I sort of exhaustively read/looked into the topic and now am always up for discussion but rarely spend much time thinking specificlly about the historicity of christianity much anymore 10:13 < aestetix> ah ok 10:14 <@benthemeek> I profit more by learning more about other religions at this point usually 10:14 < aestetix> benthemeek: did you study Plotinus? 10:15 <@benthemeek> aestetix: Its a topic that the more you look at the deeper and more complex it goes. Then you realize very few people have an actual grasp on it; and those who do are academics and not thelogions 10:15 < aestetix> s/very few people/nobody/ 10:16 <@benthemeek> theologins? (sp) 10:16 < aestetix> thus the whole shattering of the vessels thing 10:18 < aestetix> The funny thing is a lot of people seem to decide they are atheist and become very egotistic. One of the hallmarks of theism is the notion of something higher than you. Or in other words, a whole greater than the sum of its parts. 10:18 < aestetix> And to quote I think Dostoevsky... if god is dead, then everything is permissible :) 10:19 < aestetix> benthemeek: but as a Discordian who worships chaos, I find the study of order fascinating. 10:20 <@benthemeek> aestetix: I have heard of him mentioned in connection to gnostics I believe, Just has to google him though 10:21 < aestetix> The reason I mentioned Plotinus is because he seems to have been influential in forming the notions of the faith in the post-Roman empire 10:21 < aestetix> I *think* Gibbon mentions him, cannot recall. 10:21 < aestetix> also, penis 10:23 <@benthemeek> aestetix: As far as believing in the notions of something greater and a whole that is bigger than the sum of its parts I think the secular and religious humanists have the right idea 10:28 < aestetix> heh 10:30 < aestetix> benthemeek: I guess the reason I was asking you about it is because around here, even mentioning the word "god" brings hate and ostracism 10:31 < RangerZ1> nah, more pity 10:31 < RangerZ1> lol 10:31 < aestetix> uh not true 10:31 < RangerZ1> hehe 10:32 < aestetix> I have been in places where the mention of a word like "prayer" brings along some hipster checking to make sure you don't believe in an imaginary sky god 10:32 < aestetix> I had that happen to me when I was discussing a friend who had been killed in a car accident. It *really* pissed me off. 10:33 < RangerZ1> I have no problem with beliefs, it have problem with religions that are setup as pyramid schemes and tell people to 'convert' others 10:33 < RangerZ1> yeah, there is a time and place to mock religions, grieving people aren't either 10:34 < aestetix> fucking hell 10:34 < aestetix> http://www.google.com/registry/ 10:35 < aestetix> apparently they are also offering .prod and .dev 10:40 <@benthemeek> aestetix: That is a topic I have discussed A-LOT. Learning to redefine words like prayer, god, spirituality and also noting that everyone's defintions are not the same 10:42 <@benthemeek> For instance there is a rabbi I really like who uses the word God for reality or the Universe. When thinking with that defined that way suddenly a whole lot of religious speak becomes rather palatable 10:44 < aestetix> yep 10:46 <@benthemeek> aestetix: I may of already shown this to you but I talk about my spiritual journey in an interview on the pod cast "Everyone's Agnostic 10:47 <@benthemeek> http://html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/2942057/ 10:48 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: by journey did you go to buddhist temples in Tibet? 10:48 < RangerZ1> -_- 10:49 < RangerZ1> lol 10:49 <@benthemeek> RangerZ1: Don't forget the levitating during meditation ;) 10:49 < RangerZ1> but seriously, most deists have always said the term god as a nebulous term to mean the universe 10:50 < RangerZ1> Einstein in particular 10:50 * benthemeek nods 10:50 < RangerZ1> www.aestetix.meme 10:50 < RangerZ1> hmm... link doesn't work 10:50 <@benthemeek> But for 27 years I thought it was male being who lived in a higher dimension 10:51 < RangerZ1> b/c your parents are of european decent 10:51 < RangerZ1> if they were from middle african, they would think it was juju on the mountain ;) 10:55 < aestetix> benthemeek: your journey better be more than this stupid song. 10:59 <@benthemeek> aestetix: That was the third episode of the show so there were some technical difficulties, since then they have gone on to introduce some really big names like Frank Shaeffer 10:59 <@benthemeek> s/introduce/interview 11:03 < RangerZ1> thats my biggest problem with all religions, who gets to decide which one is right 11:03 < RangerZ1> either they are all 'right' for their own followers or they are all wrong 11:05 < RangerZ1> because 'oddly' there hasn't been a single miracle since the invention of the scientific method (yes, i know there actually have been some small scale ones like a nun curing herself of stomach cancer after praying to pope john paul II(part of his saintification requirements))... but still 11:06 < RangerZ1> but that could just as easily be the power of the human body/mind to self-repair when it believes that it can, because studies have shown that if people THINK people are praying for them, that they heal faster/better than if people really are 11:08 < aestetix> benthemeek: they should interview Rick Doblin :) 11:11 <@shapr> goood morning! 11:11 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #se2600 11:12 < aestetix> benthemeek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism is this your stuff? 11:12 < aestetix> god that is wierd 11:17 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: You should go visit your old church and when everybody is singing, make your way to the front and start speaking in tongues... specifically in binary ASCII 11:17 < RangerZ1> nah, it has to be devil tongues, so unicode 11:17 <@Dolemite> ebcidic 11:19 < aestetix> Is there still much of the speaking in tongues and rolling on the floor that happens? 11:19 <@Dolemite> yes 11:20 < aestetix> Dolemite: do you do that at your church? 11:20 <@Dolemite> In the charismatic churches it's pretty much part of the lithurgy 11:20 <@Dolemite> no 11:21 <@Dolemite> I am Methodist and we're at pretty much the other end of the spectrum as the charismatic churches 11:22 < aestetix> What do methodists do/believe? 11:22 <@Dolemite> Methodism is probably the second most liberal of the Protestant denominations 11:23 <@shapr> what's the most liberal? 11:23 <@Dolemite> We believe that judgement is for God, not man. The doors of the church are open to all, not just those that look and sound like us. 11:23 < aestetix> Dolemite: so you have to let me in 11:23 <@Dolemite> I think Episcopalean is considered the most liberal 11:24 <@Dolemite> aestetix: If you were to come to the church sincerely, yes. If you were there to make an ass of yourself, no. 11:24 < aestetix> benthemeek: ok no wonder. This is a very strange thing for me.... hearing about pentecostal stuff 11:25 <@Dickie> Episcopalians represeeeeent 11:25 * Dickie throws a few gang signs 11:25 < RangerZ1> Dickie: problem is you are now on the "can kill" list for the local police 11:26 * Dickie checks his skin color 11:26 < RangerZ1> because they'll take those pictures of you with gang signs, and say you were a thug-wannabe 11:26 < aestetix> RangerZ1: good thing he's not black or he'd be on the "will kill" list 11:26 <@Dickie> I was super close to going to seminary 11:26 <@Dickie> Woo, wee. That would have been an interesting Dickie. 11:27 < RangerZ1> then you found out you like sex? 11:27 < RangerZ1> lol 11:27 <@oddball> Damn... Stephania just got told by the doctors that it's a good idea to call the rest of the family to say bye to Fred. 11:27 <@Dickie> Episcopalians get to have sex 11:27 <@Dickie> I could sex a man if I wanted. 11:27 <@shapr> huh 11:27 <@shapr> well that's handy 11:27 < RangerZ1> there is actually a push for catholic priests to be allowed to marry again 11:27 <@Dolemite> So a good way to describe the difference... the liberal Protestants have sermons telling the congregation that if they did more for the community, then the government wouldn't have to step in and provide aid. The more conservative denominations preach sermons to the congregation that condemn the actions of the government for providing aid to those they don't agree with. 11:28 <@Dickie> There's constantly a push for Catholics to do something 11:28 <@shapr> make babies? 11:28 <@Dolemite> Dickie made a poop baby 11:28 <@Dickie> I'm constantly pushing my wife to have babies 11:28 < RangerZ1> largest church in the world with 1.2 billion followers... so even if you aren't a member, its worth knowing about, etc 11:28 <@Dolemite> It's in his underwear right now 11:28 <@Dickie> Like, that's how you do it 11:29 < aestetix> I guess the church is not dead after all. 11:29 < RangerZ1> aestetix: median age of followers is like 50 11:29 < RangerZ1> so yeah... 11:29 < RangerZ1> lol 11:29 < aestetix> oh ok 11:29 < aestetix> so it will be dead in 30 years :p 11:29 <@oddball> Of course, I believe the Methodists are like the Presbyterians and believe in predestination... so the scarying with fire and brimstone doesn't really fit. 11:29 < RangerZ1> predestination? 11:30 <@oddball> er presbyterians 11:30 <@Dolemite> Predestination is not part of Methodism 11:30 <@Dickie> wtf is happening 11:30 <@oddball> Really? huh... thought it was. 11:31 <@oddball> I guess that's what the split was between the two when they split off the Calvinist church. 11:32 < RangerZ1> anyone use arch as their daily driver distro? 11:32 <@Dolemite> From wikipedia: Most Methodists identify with the Arminian conception of free will, through God's prevenient grace, as opposed to the theological determinism of absolute predestination. 11:32 < aestetix> benthemeek: you should go to Burning Man 11:33 <@oddball> RangerZ1: yeah, the presbyterians don't talk about it that much (hell, I was raised presbyterian and I didn't know that until I was in my late teens) believe that you're basically already branded as to whether you're going to be good or evil. 11:33 <@oddball> Or rather the decision as to where you're going to end up in the afterlife has already been made. 11:33 < RangerZ1> then why the fuck 'try' ? 11:33 < RangerZ1> lol 11:33 < RangerZ1> that makes no sense 11:34 <@oddball> To... uh... prove to others that you're one of the chosen. 11:34 < RangerZ1> LOL 11:34 <@oddball> Because, clearly, if you are one of the chosen, you're going to trend to do good because it's your nature. 11:34 < RangerZ1> oddball: you were told "you're fucked" weren't you? 11:34 <@oddball> heh 11:34 < RangerZ1> lol 11:35 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I was raised Southern Baptist and when they started trying to convince me of pre-ordination, I bailed 11:35 < aestetix> Pre-ordination? 11:35 <@Dolemite> Er, pre-ordained / predestination 11:35 < aestetix> ah 11:36 < RangerZ1> preordination - (theology) being determined in advance; especially the doctrine (usually associated with Calvin) that God has foreordained every event throughout eternity (including the final salvation of mankind) 11:36 < aestetix> thanks wikipedia 11:36 <@Dolemite> Of course, one of the worst things that has been done is recent storytelling that equates Jesus to a superhero. "Jesus could bend those steel bars right there, just like Superman!" 11:36 < RangerZ1> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Preordination actually... but yeah 11:37 < RangerZ1> Dolemite: but I loved Jesus's yellow tights and red cape 11:37 < RangerZ1> lol 11:38 <@opticron> my saviour can beat up your saviour! 11:38 < RangerZ1> uhh ohh ... crusade incoming 11:39 < RangerZ1> but again... Anyone use arch ? and as a daily driver? 11:39 < aestetix> oh btw Richard Dawkins really needs to be put down. 11:39 < aestetix> He has turned into a grumpy old man. 11:39 <@oddball> Hell, then you have the holy wars in Europe: "You're worshiping Him wrong!" 11:40 < RangerZ1> oddball: I just wish everyone who thought it was alright to kill for religion... would just go to war RIGHT NOW in the middle east 11:40 < RangerZ1> I'll buy a few dozen combat knives if that'll work 11:40 < RangerZ1> lol 11:40 <@oddball> Well, good news for you is a good portion of them are already there. 11:41 < RangerZ1> nah 11:41 < frsilent> fuck afghanistan; fuck those people and fuck their religion 11:41 < aestetix> wow about halfway through the benthemeek lecture 11:41 < frsilent> bunch of murdering, thieving, child-molesting, subhman fucks 11:41 < RangerZ1> ^ last two lines read as one long line... more amusing 11:42 < RangerZ1> hehe 11:43 < aestetix> pentecostals are fucking nuts 11:47 <@oddball> They seem like perfectly normal people while in the general public. 11:48 <@oddball> ...and then they decide to pick up a snake. 11:49 < aestetix> "christian deconstruction" 11:50 <@oddball> I remember being up in Michigan visiting family and the local news discovered the Pentecostals in TN/KY. My family looked to me and said "do people really do that shit?" 11:51 < aestetix> I know someone... she was raised atheist (in the 60s/70s).... the first time she ever set foot in a church, she was 17, on lsd, and proceeded to have sex on the altar with the guy she was with 11:52 <@Evilpig> sounds liek a book 11:53 < aestetix> a book? 11:57 < RangerZ1> aestetix: having sex in a car on church property is frowned upon... 11:57 < RangerZ1> I'm guessing on the alter is more-so 11:57 < RangerZ1> lol 11:57 <@oddball> ...yeah.... 12:07 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsAAPD3vSxo 12:10 <@benthemeek> aestetix: Pentecostalism is more on the mystical/experiential side of Christianity; rather than the ritual traditional side of things such as litergical denominations 12:10 <@benthemeek> And yes the rolling in the aisles and speaking in tounges is standard fare every time the church meets 12:11 <@benthemeek> The christian deconstruction thing is my observation of people that leave christianity and get stuck in bashing what they are against rather than what they are for 12:12 <@benthemeek> Its a pretty bitter way to live 12:14 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: When I was pentecostal the traditional denominations seemed boring and having "no relationship" to God. Now it seems they were much more practical and "sane" in their traditions than my own 12:14 < aestetix> benthemeek: I've seen a lot of that. I agree it's stupid. 12:14 < aestetix> I suspect a lot of people around here are like that actually. 12:15 < aestetix> Usually it's "recovering Catholic" or something 12:15 < aestetix> But yeah what you're talking about sounds more like that crazy church scene in the Blues Brothers 12:15 -!- klixa [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxccjpfjzslaaqjn] has joined #se2600 12:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:16 <@benthemeek> A youtube search will find many videos of taken of crazy church scenes like that movie and you the posters are very proud of how God "moved" 12:17 <@oddball> aestetix: Yeah... I've met many atheists that are like that. Seems to be that a lot of people like defining themselves by what they're not... and that they're obviously surperior to what they're not. 12:17 <@benthemeek> It does seem insanity from the outside. But perhaps no more than people at rock concerts who dance and shout themselves horse 12:17 <@benthemeek> hoarse* 12:18 < aestetix> benthemeek: the difference there is that rock concerts don't happen every week 12:18 < aestetix> And the metalheads who do that shit at rock concerts burn out :) 12:18 <@benthemeek> There is a sort of group hypnosis with music usually as a big role. Its almost african in nature with drums or organ; it is hard to explain 12:19 < aestetix> Right, it's a sort of trance. 12:19 <@benthemeek> A sort of ecstasy of shouting yelling, but no drugs are done and it is seen as totally acceptable and even desirable by all to be in that state 12:19 < aestetix> The other thing is that your heartbeat tends to match the beat of external drums/etc. That's why at raves if someone is sick you need to get them away from the music. 12:20 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 12:25 < RangerZ1> aestetix: I can speed my heart beat up if I think about it 12:25 < RangerZ1> ...slowing it _back down_... a little harder 12:26 < RangerZ1> somewhat of a side-effect of 'white coat syndrome', lol 12:26 <@shapr> I can do both 12:26 < RangerZ1> doctor "you shouldn't be alive with a bloodpressure of 190/150 and 150 bpm heartrate 12:26 <@shapr> I can also sweat when I want, or not if I don't want 12:27 < RangerZ1> god... I'd kill for that 12:27 < RangerZ1> i sweat like a mother fucker... 12:28 < RangerZ1> would lose 5+ lbs a day in water weight when I was in wrestling... when I weighed 135 lbs... 12:28 < aestetix> RangerZ1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkbOYPairKY watch that regarding heartrate 12:39 < aestetix> benthemeek: based on your past as a pentecostal, my conversations with Corydon in here must have really been strange 12:42 < RangerZ1> aestetix: s/based on your past as a pentecostal, // 12:46 < aestetix> jesus how do you lose 5 pounds a day in water 12:46 < aestetix> that seems really unhealthy 12:48 < RangerZ1> 3 hours in a 85+ room, doing extreme workout 12:49 < aestetix> https://srsly.de/ 12:52 < aestetix> yeah that website is gonna cause problems 12:54 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:27 <@Evilpig> aestetix: they say that's what nascar and formula one drivers do in a single race 13:30 -!- Synx|hm_ [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:04 < RangerZ1> https://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/18764985 LOL comcast "senior research manager" here in nashville 14:04 < RangerZ1> how to make it easier to sell cable TV 14:06 < aestetix> RangerZ1: that's easy. Send a technician out to clip the competitors cable lines from customers 14:06 < RangerZ1> cable 'competitor' ? 14:06 < RangerZ1> we have the laws setup to prevent that 14:06 < aestetix> oh 14:07 < aestetix> so it's really convincing people they want cable 14:07 < RangerZ1> pretty much 14:08 < RangerZ1> and crying at people like me who say "yeah... now that the 'introductory rate' is over, I'm going to cancel everything except internet' 14:11 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: The "competitor" to cable is usually a phone company. 14:12 < RangerZ1> and at&t could give me UPTO 768 kbps for ~60$/mo 14:13 < RangerZ1> and nwo that they laid fiber in my neighborhood in a year or so... I can get UPTO 24mbps for 80$, etc 14:17 < RangerZ1> i laughed at the at&t rep, and told them to remove my phone number from their system else I would call the FCC, SEC, and would consider calling the state DA 14:18 < RangerZ1> for 'some reason' I never got calls back from AT&T trying to sell me crap service 14:18 < RangerZ1> lol 14:18 < RangerZ1> (yes... they were calling my cell #) 14:24 <@Dolemite> I find it laughable that home users really think that they need anything over 10 Mbps for internet service. 14:24 <@Dolemite> It's not that they need high bandwidth. They need low latency. 14:25 <@Dolemite> The providers have done an excellent job and trying to convince the public that the former is more important than the latter. 14:25 <@Dolemite> Consistency and low latency are much more important than any "up to" speed. 14:27 <@Mirage> so long as it's dedicated bandwidth and not pooled with the "up to" amount being what you might get if you're the only one connecting to the node/concentrator/etc that's being shared w/ everyone in your area. 14:28 < aestetix> penis 14:28 <@Mirage> in Nashville I had way better service from Butler on 3Mb DSL than I ever had on Intermedia/Comcrap 14:29 <@rattle> Oh so true.. 14:30 <@rattle> Everytime I hear someone brag about how they got 50mbit at home, I just chuckle to myself. 14:31 <@rattle> Comcast's network in particular is a joke.. They've got asymmetrical routing going on all over the place, by design.. 14:31 <@rattle> It's crazy. 14:33 <@Evilpig> I had 15 or 20 mb service with comcrap and actually got those speeds. god knows I was on them to fix the line noise etc pretty damn quickly when it cropped up 14:34 <@Mirage> the (small) business class was day/night different from the normal home service. 14:35 <@Evilpig> uses teh same lines and most of the same equipment though 14:35 <@Evilpig> I'm really looking at the verizon fios option up here. 14:36 <@rattle> Nod.. We've got some 500mbit transit and 2gb private linux from Comcast business. They aren't bad. Their routing weirdness pops up sometimes, but it can't be compared to the residential service.. 14:36 <@Evilpig> like I was complaining the other night, i'd consider it more if they'd put their pricing online 14:36 <@rattle> s/linux/links/ 14:37 <@rattle> The asymmetrical routing issues were fucking with ipsec quite badly, but we just posited that traffic to other links. 14:37 <@Mirage> my uptime was way better on the business class..which isn't saying too much since i still regularly logged several "hiccups" of 1-5 min throughout the day and 20-90 minutes every month or so. 14:38 <@Mirage> Evilpig: i've been very happy w/ FiOS so far. Waay better than Comcrap or UVerse 14:39 <@Evilpig> my only real issue right now is I have my shit setup and it works well 14:39 <@Evilpig> it'd have to be significant cost savings for me to switch to fios 14:40 <@Evilpig> i'd love to try out their 300/300 service but no clue wtf i'd do with that kind of juice 14:40 <@Mirage> download lots and lots of porn really fast 14:43 <@rattle> Verizon's consumer network isn't that bad.. Aside from a few weird points of peering congestion that are entirely political in nature.. 14:44 <@rattle> We're still in the process of transitioning out network here from "typical small company" to "HAMMER TIME".. I miss my network at CAP. 14:44 <@Mirage> Not sure if it's the same everywhere, though it should be, but..the converter on the outside of the house where the RG58/R6 (TV) and CAT3 (phone) is broken out from fibre does your network termination and has its own UPS, so there's no requirement for using additional hardware in the house for network. 14:45 <@Evilpig> that shit is inside my apartment behind a bookcase 14:46 <@Mirage> TV set-top boxes need "internet" access in order to get guide data and stream on-demand programming, though, which is done using a MoCA bridge. 14:47 <@rattle> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4019899495 -- It will be better next year thou.. 14:49 <@Evilpig> I need a gigabit connection here. best I can do is 100Mbps 14:49 <@Dolemite> Mirage: What all did you have to do to get your IPTV boxes to talk through your firewall? Didn't you say something about having to enable IGMP? 14:50 <@Evilpig> in your duh huh moment for the week. http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-most-pirated-movies-of-the-week-141229/ 14:50 <@rattle> We just fork lifted our self-owned datacenter out to a carrier facility here in Boston. When we move to our new office, we'll be hanging off a 10ge to it.. That's gonna be fun. 14:50 <@Mirage> They get dedicated IP's from my DHCP and are allowed outbound 80 to get guide data and inbound/outbound IGMP. No proxy needed like on UVerse 14:51 <@Mirage> I couldn't get it to work on UVerse because of the way they did it w/ their shitty hardware 14:52 <@Dolemite> I finally have enough 802.1x switches to be able to segment out the networks at home like I want and to homerun the inbound connection to a pfSense VM running on ESX in my office 14:53 <@Evilpig> rattle: I love the facility we're in. they handle all the hardware maint and facilities stuff 14:54 <@Evilpig> http://dft.com/ 14:54 <@Mirage> Dolemite: 14:54 <@Mirage> ## Verizon 14:54 <@Mirage> pass quick proto igmp from { 192.168.0.17, 192.168.0.18 } to any keep state 14:54 <@Mirage> pass quick proto { tcp,udp } from { 192.168.0.17, 192.168.0.18 } to 108.57.141.164/23 keep state 14:55 <@rattle> Evilpig: This is where we just moved. http://www.markleygroup.com/ 14:56 <@Mirage> I thought i'd only done http, but i seem to recall that because of the on-demand stuff it wound up being a bunch of rotating ports so I finally just did the restriction by network 14:56 <@rattle> Check out the bottom of this page: http://www.markleygroup.com/about-us/what-sets-us-apart/ 14:57 <@rattle> We don't have a crazy large infrastructure, so we just document the hell out of everything so we can use remote hands as easily as having our folks there. 14:57 <@Evilpig> we're pretty well documented but growing at such a pace we have to have internal hands on 15:00 <@Mirage> "Two distinct water sources with nine (9) entrances" ?? 15:01 <@rattle> Water is extremely important for a datacenter. 15:02 <@rattle> You need water for cooling. 15:02 <@Mirage> Dolemite, Evilpig: I use these MoCA bridges. http://www.frys.com/product/7582976 15:03 <@Dolemite> Not necessarily. A lot of places in the hot, humid climates of the Southeastern United States utilize glycol closed-loop dry-cooler systems. 15:03 <@Mirage> Dolemite: beat me to it 15:04 <@rattle> I don't think they have enough space for dry-cooler systems here.. 15:05 <@Mirage> _THE_ water main for the city of Wichita, KS burst while I lived there. No water in the entire city shut down phones and some electric substations because they were water-cooled 15:05 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Yeah, that wouldn't do me any good. I have fiber to an interface terminal outside the house, then it comes out Cat5 from there. 15:06 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@173-12-231-201-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 15:06 <@Mirage> Dolemite: that converts CAT5->CoaX for the set-top boxes..or can be used (like I do) to connect your smart TV, DVD, etc hardwire instead of WiFi 15:07 <@Dolemite> Oh, my set top boxes take Cat5 15:07 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I'm on FiOS...I only have fibre coming into the house as well. 15:07 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Mine can as well...but if you don't have a jack already run or can't run a jack there, MoCA is a great alternative to WiFi 15:08 <@Dolemite> Gotcha. Nope, I have a taller crawl-space here than I did at my house in Smyrna. 15:08 <@Mirage> I'm on a slab in a 2-story brick house, so I don't have much option for rewiring the house. 15:09 <@Dolemite> I have to stand on a ladder to reach the bottom of the living room floor, and that's the shortest point. 15:09 <@Mirage> A few shots or a 6-pack will normally get me to the floor...no ladder needed 15:09 <@Mirage> =) 15:09 <@Dolemite> wrong side of the floor ;) 15:10 <@Dolemite> ok, time to head out... need to swing by Great Clips and see if they can cut this rag mop off of my head. 15:12 <@Evilpig> w00t! 15x 12packs of coke for $26 15:12 <@Evilpig> plus $10 to have the cute girl load them all into a cart and bring them out to my truck 15:17 * klixa steals a coke from Evilpig while he's distracted by cute chick 15:17 <@Evilpig> just one? not an entire 12 pack? 15:17 <@opticron> Evilpig, where did you get that deal? 15:18 <@klixa> opticron: lol I was about to ask the same thing 15:18 * opticron is always looking for good deals on sodas 15:18 <@opticron> especially name brand sodas 15:19 <@klixa> I'm addicted to diet Pepsi and coke zero :/ 15:21 <@Dickie> You gon' be faaaaaaat 15:21 <@Dickie> Best watch yoself 15:21 <@Dickie> Have a glass of water 15:21 <@Dickie> brisk walk 15:24 <@Dickie> opticron's going to diet mountain dew himself into a diabetic coma 15:27 < aestetix> Dagmar: http://www.newstatesman.com/laurie-penny/on-nerd-entitlement-rebel-alliance-empire 15:27 < aestetix> enjoy 15:35 <@Dickie> I like Pepsi next. 15:40 <@Dickie> opticron: I never bite unless it's 4 for 12 or better on 12 packs 15:41 <@Dickie> Twice a year I buy a shitload of soda and we drink it in, like, two weeks 15:42 <@opticron> that's the deal I wait for 15:42 <@opticron> I have 18x12pks in my office right now 15:45 <@NotLarry> @urine Bahhumbug 15:45 <@NotLarry> @fire NotLarry 15:47 < RangerZ1> we have no bot :/ 15:48 <@NotLarry> wtf is wrong with us? 15:48 -!- GateKeeper [~gatekeepr@serentos/support/bot] has joined #se2600 15:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GateKeeper] by ChanServ 15:48 * GateKeeper dances 15:48 <@NotLarry> @fire NotLarry 15:48 * GateKeeper sets fire to NotLarry with the flames of a thousand suns 15:48 <@NotLarry> @urine Bahhumbug 15:49 <@NotLarry> @water Bahhumbug 15:49 <@Bahhumbug> @nuke NotLarry 15:49 * GateKeeper launches an overt first-strike comprised of multiple ballistic warheads consisting of MRV payloads at NotLarry. Say your prayers, there is no hope. 15:49 <@NotLarry> @assfuck Bahhumbug 15:49 <@Bahhumbug> @part 15:49 -!- GateKeeper [~gatekeepr@serentos/support/bot] has left #se2600 ["Bahhumbug"] 15:49 * Bahhumbug shrugs 15:49 <@NotLarry> Damn, there is something wrong with this bot 15:49 <@Bahhumbug> What bot? 15:49 <@Bahhumbug> It can stay gone this time. 15:51 <@NotLarry> So, I'm in Goodwill a couple of weeks ago, woman is repeatedly calling "Jaylen, come here." After about the 7th time I turn around and go "Jaylen, I said come here NOW!" She did not see the humor in that. 16:08 < RangerZ1> NotLarry: what did the police say when she called them to you? 16:24 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 16:24 < Synx|hm> fucking supermicro 16:25 < Synx|hm> sent an email to support, the respond with settings in the BIOS that do not exist (that i noted were missing in my orig email), i respond back, i get another response telling me i cant do this from the BIOS i have to use IPMI, which i had asked for raw IPMI commands from the start 16:38 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: just use UEFI instead of bios *duckes the thrown keyboard* 16:39 < Synx|hm> ha 16:59 < RangerZ1> http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/house-gop-leader-confirms-role-white-supremacist-event 16:59 < RangerZ1> jesus... you can't make this shit up 16:59 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@173-12-231-201-memphis.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:00 < RangerZ1> "all the way back in 2002" 17:16 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-54.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:35 <@Evilpig> so... what did you accomplish at work today? https://www.dropbox.com/s/6wdxta9ef97i5bg/2014-12-29%2016.49.06.jpg?dl=0 18:05 <@shapr> needs more hand stands 18:09 <@Dagmar> evilpig: You let two bald people into the shop? 18:10 <@Evilpig> over half a mil in switching equipment there 18:11 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: It's not like he was 10 years old 12 years ago. 18:12 <@Dagmar> In fact, he was 37 when he spoke to that group; 18:18 <@Dagmar> Oh holy shit 18:18 <@Dagmar> http://www.theonion.com/video/judge-rules-white-girl-will-be-tried-as-black-adul,18896/ 19:05 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:16 <@Shadow404> hmm, i wonder if i can take the original contour camera scuba diving? no more than 15 feet max 19:16 <@Shadow404> er, 15 yeards 19:20 <@Dagmar> Well, looks like someone broke Cyanogenmod 19:20 <@Dagmar> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdownload.cyanogenmod.org%2F%3Fdevice%3Dd2lte&ei=V--hVJzgB8yqNoOWgOgP&usg=AFQjCNEuU2iXVxWXIywNuTiIaNs2DdOmEQ&sig2=5aG_k4r8L3vAsmPwhQxJGA 19:20 <@Dagmar> Maybe we'll try https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=d2lte instead 19:29 <@Evilpig> heroic difficulty on hyrule warriors is ridonculous 19:36 -!- InfoSecDog [~user@c-50-155-6-109.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:45 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:38 <@Dagmar> Heroics are hard? Who knew? --- Log closed Tue Dec 30 00:00:29 2014