--- Log opened Fri Dec 19 00:00:11 2014
--- Day changed Fri Dec 19 2014
00:00 <@RangerZ> for?
00:01 <@RangerZ> are you making more illegal bombs? (testing to see how drunk you are)
00:01 <@RangerZ> and no... you are NOT Link... Zelda will not give you the tri-force if you can just bomb the walls and sword the chickens
00:01 <@RangerZ> lol
00:01 < Synx|hm> need to build a USB to PWM controller out of the attiny45 i have sitting around
00:02 < Synx|hm> going to breadboard it first ha
00:02 < Synx|hm> got 30min before work begins and want to keep occupied so i dont fall asleep
00:02 < Synx|hm> hence the coffee
00:04 < Synx|hm> oh shit this would be perfect!https://d32zx1or0t1x0y.cloudfront.net/2014/04/newproducts_apr14_01_lrg.jpg
00:04 <@RangerZ> ahh
00:05 <@RangerZ> guess I'll watch the last colbert report on cc.com tomorrow
00:05 <@RangerZ> that is the ONLY show I wish I had cable for
00:05 <@RangerZ> lol
00:07 < Synx|hm> if i could figure out a way to stream it to you right now i would
00:07 <@RangerZ> well Comedy central * channel*
00:07 < Synx|hm> actually i think my hdhomerun prime does h264
00:07 < Synx|hm> its on now though isn't it
00:07 <@RangerZ> think it just ended
00:07 < Synx|hm> oh nm
00:07 < Synx|hm> ha
00:08 <@RangerZ> yeah, no biggie
00:08 <@RangerZ> when I get a real job... I'll have all the nice toys...
00:08 <@RangerZ> but now... ramen and a few video games for me
00:08 <@RangerZ> lol
00:09 < Synx|hm> ha, only reason i have the hdhomerun prime is because it was cheaper to get basic cable + hbo with comcast and internet than it was internet alone
00:09 < Synx|hm> otherwise id be on my antenna and hdhomerun dual ;)
00:09 < Synx|hm> and i refused to rent anything from comcast so it was roll my own setup with cablecard
00:10 < Synx|hm> what ever asshole assembled this avr usb programmer in china did not put the red ribbon stripe on pin 1, fucker
00:10 <@Dagmar> ...and in one year, that will change.
00:10 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: ?
00:10 <@Dagmar> The "introductory" rate disappears.
00:10 <@RangerZ> ahh, yeah
00:11 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: watch, the 'notice' will just be a flyer/postcard they mail you
00:11 <@Dagmar> For entertainment value, when you're talking to them about the "great deal" ask them what the rate will be after it's over.
00:11 < Synx|hm> yup and ill hopefully have moved and ditched comcast and sell the prime
00:11 <@Dagmar> It's like you suddenly started speaking to them in russian.
00:11 < Synx|hm> or cnx and put it in my wifes name for a new intro pricing
00:11 < Synx|hm> ;)
00:12 < Synx|hm> oh so today i get a xmas card, i swear it was hand written lable, nice holiday return addr lable, and an actual postage stamp
00:12 <@Dagmar> Oh the _sad_ thing is that I've had a few of their installer people say flat out that they'd go put the intro rate back
00:12 < Synx|hm> was a fucking direct tv mailer
00:12 <@Dagmar> I'm like, "Damn, dude.  That's fraud, and you make _how_ much?"
00:12 < Synx|hm> ha
00:13 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: their 'business internet' comes with a weird cable package too, which is like 30 channels
00:13 <@RangerZ> but most of the ones you'd want
00:13 <@RangerZ> but they are dodgy about puttnig that list online
00:14 <@RangerZ> BUT if you get it, and then move somewhere without comcast, you owe them like 3k$
00:14 <@RangerZ> there was a story just about that
00:14 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: business internet does not come with a cable package
00:14 <@Evilpig> they have one available, but it doens't come with it
00:14 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: no, but you can upgrade for cheap~ish
00:14 <@Evilpig> I had business internet and regular tv
00:18 < Synx|hm> ya i dont get it, how can they justify fucking credit checks etc
00:18 < Synx|hm> its a $50 dollar bill, if i dont pay my bill shut off ym fucking service
00:18 < Synx|hm> the modem isn't worth that much
00:18 < Synx|hm> i guess if you have thousands in DVR equipment
00:18 <@Dagmar> It's because they're probably playing a little game internally where they finance the payments from the customers
00:19 < Synx|hm> its like the fucking water company, why do they need my fucking social, perhaps some smuck could just turn on the tap for 30days and not pay
00:19 <@RangerZ> Synx|hm: they told my mom the 2 cables boxes she has are worth 1500$ each
00:19 <@RangerZ> they can just 'make up' values
00:19 < Synx|hm> haha god so much anger in my heart for scumbag wireline providers
00:20 <@RangerZ> and this is Armstrong Cable
00:20 <@RangerZ> the "#1 reated cable provider in America"
00:20 <@RangerZ> which... honestly for being like 11th largest or something, DOES do good service, and prices
00:21 <@RangerZ> I paid 90$ (not intro) for cable and internet
00:21 <@RangerZ> only 60$ for either
00:21 <@RangerZ> and _next day_ support calls
00:21 <@RangerZ> 2 hour windows
00:22 <@RangerZ> but they are still monopoly
00:23 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Comcast business is same day.
00:24 < _NSAKEY> Usually within 4 hours unless they're just swamped.
00:24 < _NSAKEY> It's sad how you have to get business service just to get good support.
00:25 <@Evilpig> their business service has worse support!
00:25 <@Evilpig> are you kidding me?
00:25 <@Evilpig> the residential is 24/7 business is m-f 10-10
00:27 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I only had to deal with business support at a business.
00:27 < _NSAKEY> Any time there was a problem, they had a tech out within hours, unless it was close to closing time.
00:27 <@Evilpig> I learned that shit the hard way
00:27 < _NSAKEY> Then they were out the next morning.
00:27 <@Evilpig> times when my modem went down in the middle of the night
00:27 <@Evilpig> I was in the NOC up all night and saw it, and couldn't get anyone on the phone
00:28 <@Evilpig> finally reached residential support and they couldn't do shit for my connection because it was business and all they could do was transfer me to that dept that was closed
00:28 < _NSAKEY> I can remember when @home was a thing around here.
00:28 < _NSAKEY> Now THOSE guys were terrible.
00:28 <@Dagmar> Well, the residential service gets passed over to some telecommuters who have little to no skill
00:29 <@Dagmar> It's not like Mindspring used to be where you'd get some dude at 2am hitting a bubbler while you're on speakerphone while he simultaneously pushes out new routing tables.
00:30 <@Evilpig> it'd be one thing if they gave you a message like the department was closed. what they do is not that.  they transfer you to the closed department, then eventually the phone system just hangs up on you
00:31 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Sounds like just about all of these places.
00:31 < _NSAKEY> Even if you call back and tell the tech support drone that getting transferred will just end that way, I've had them still do it to me.
00:32 <@Evilpig> I have as well, that grew my hatred for comcrap very well
00:32 < _NSAKEY> That or they get really unsure of themselves and tell you the department's closed, because they don't have a word bubble on their printed out script for that situation.
00:33 <@Evilpig> I'm crashing.  housekeepers should be here tomorrow.  I've put pants beside the bed just in case they show up unannounced again...  night
00:40 < aestetix> penis
01:10 < aestetix> Evilpig: I found a comic about you: http://imgur.com/xa1UpLK
01:10 < aestetix> the guy even has red hair
03:09 < Synx|hm> who's still up?
03:16 < aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/rgC7v90.gifv wow look at that nsfw
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03:31 < Synx|hm> ha
03:31 < Synx|hm> figured id just ignore it
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06:43 < RangerZ|Test> lets see if driver 'repair' fixes this BS
08:21 < scoob> Anyone here done BsidesNSH?
08:27 <@Dolemite> Murry Crimmus, be0tches and h0ez!
09:06 <@Dickie> MERRY CHRISTMAS
09:06 <@Dickie> I LOVE CHRISTMAS
09:06  * Dickie trips over himself
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09:21 <@Shadow404> anyone have a copy or viable torrent link for "the interview"?
09:23 <@Shadow404> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5M2cp7CAAEkcrp.jpg
09:59 < RangerZ|Test> AFAIK its not out there yet
09:59 < RangerZ|Test> but dvd screeners DID get sent out for reviews/etc
09:59 < RangerZ|Test> so it 'will' leak at some point
10:08 < RangerZ|Test> but honestly, it might leak the 25th anyways
10:08 < RangerZ|Test> 11TB or w/e the fuck it is...
10:11 <@Evilpig> it wasn't in the 11tb leak, at least not the shit they released
10:12 < RangerZ|Test> ohh the 11TB was leaked?
10:12 < RangerZ|Test> i thought thats what they got, and released part of it
10:12  * RangerZ|Test shrugs
10:12 < RangerZ|Test> Evilpig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgxhvIQGonE
10:12 < RangerZ|Test> MEME RUN
10:12 < RangerZ|Test> a game on Wii U
10:13 <@Evilpig> RangerZ|Test: we don't know what else they have to leak.  they released a couple of movies and a shitload of email so far
10:13 < RangerZ|Test> its almost worth buying just to show people for trolling
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10:16 < RangerZ|Test> also... Heroes of the Storm (Blizzard's MOBA) is not too bad
10:16 < RangerZ|Test> a lot simplier than dota2/lol, but a good core game
10:20 <@Evilpig> I was in the alpha and I guess I just don't care for that type of game much at all
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10:40 <@Evilpig> I'm debating picking up a usenet service.  anyone currently using any?
11:27 <@Evilpig> wtf was the purpose of this?
11:27 <@Evilpig> Tanya:  hey wilbur me:  hrmmm? Tanya:  kaleem and i were running intake yesterday and noticed someone changed the format of how the output shows
11:27 <@Evilpig> did you notice that also me:  no? Sent at 11:22 AM on Friday Tanya:  yeah
11:27 <@Evilpig> it did Sent at 11:23 AM on Friday 
12:14 <@shapr> Evilpig: what?
12:29 <@Evilpig> coworker asking me if I noticed a formatting change in a process we perform but didn't mention what the change was or anything of value
12:30 <@shapr> bad communication
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14:19 <@Mirage> Verizon FIOS seems to be having some moderate issues today
15:01 < aestetix> http://2600.com/?q=content/offer-sony-2600
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15:12 <@Shadow404> dont blame me, im in telematics, not wireline
15:40 <@Dagmar> goddamn hippies
15:41 <@Dagmar> I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone tried to call me a racist for refusing to take part in a "black people's" movement where i'm told I have no voice
15:41 <@Dagmar> Accusing me of "co-opting" is just wildly over the top tho'.
15:41 <@Dagmar> Fuuuuck these hippie idiots.
15:43 <@Bahhumbug> s/hippie//
15:44 <@Dickie> Tell them you self-identify as black
15:45 <@Dickie> something something shitlords
15:48 < aestetix> Dagmar: wait, someone called you a racist for that?
16:08 <@Dagmar> aestetix: They worked their way up to it, but yeah
16:09 <@Dagmar> I find the accusation that I am somehow "co-opting" someone _else's_ actions to be particularly offensive
16:09 <@Dagmar> A shrink would surely have me sell my personal computer as a resolution to the obsessive amount of time I spend looking over "the situation at hand" online
16:10 <@Dagmar> ...and for as long as I've been doing it?  Fuck these kids.
16:10 <@Dagmar> The only thing focusing on "black lives matter" is likely to accomplish is more race hatred, and an easier narrative to manipulate to preserve the status quo
16:10 <@Dagmar> It's separatist, short-sighted, and ultimately self-defeating
16:11 <@Dagmar> ...but god forbid you actually point these simple things out to people.
16:21 <@benthemeek> dagmar! just the guy I need
16:22 <@benthemeek> You know anythign about whether I can concatonate to MBOX files together to restore email?
16:22 <@benthemeek> Or will I seriously screw something up if I try
16:22 <@benthemeek> Bahhumbug might know as well
16:23 <@benthemeek> this is an ancient version of sendmail storing in mbox format and I am wondering if it can be as simple to restore some old email from a backup as concatonating the files into one
16:24 <@benthemeek> hmm google is mixed
16:24 <@Dagmar> They're text
16:25 <@benthemeek> Yeah I was just wondering if sendmail would freak out or anything in your experience
16:25 <@Dagmar> No it shouldn't care
16:25 <@Dagmar> Just make a backup of both files first, and check the result before and after to see that the number of mails has increased
16:26 <@Dagmar> If both parts came from the same system at roughly the same time there should be no compatibility issues
16:26 <@Dagmar> If you're trying to splice a current mailbox with something from 15 years ago, you're going to fail
16:26 <@benthemeek> they came from the same system but from older backups of the same file
16:27 <@Dagmar> So, provided you never had an major sendmail upgrade where you were told to delete all spools first, this should be no problem
16:27 <@Bahhumbug> mbox is mbox.  It was the same 15 years ago as it is today.
16:27 <@Dagmar> Well, mbox isn't always mbox
16:27 <@benthemeek> Just days apart
16:27 <@Dagmar> ...but it's still basically a spool
16:27 <@benthemeek> I didnt know if it was indexed or something
16:27 <@Dagmar> You see any index file?
16:27 <@Dagmar> heh
16:28 <@benthemeek> Well I mean had to be in certain order etc
16:28 <@Dagmar> They're pretty much concatenated mails, with one tiny bit of escaping in place
16:28 <@benthemeek> I wonder how it handles duplicates
16:28 <@Dagmar> Duplicate?  You get two copies.  :)
16:28 <@benthemeek> I will try it
16:28 <@Dagmar> Here's a good example of what I meant a moment ago http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/mail-mbox-formats.html
16:29 <@Dagmar> from the same system a few days apart tho... zero risk
16:30 <@benthemeek> Thank you gentlemen, you have been most helpful
16:31 <@Dagmar> Making the backups is strictly a formality, but you should do it anyway because it's the professional thing to do
16:32 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that
16:37 < aestetix> Dagmar: I just had a phone call with the head of NSTIC
16:37 <@Dagmar> ...and?
16:37 < aestetix> We might wind up getting a working group in January.
16:38 <@Dagmar> Sounds interesting
16:38 < aestetix> Indeed.
16:38 < aestetix> I'll let you know.
16:38 < aestetix> But yeah, that would give us the chance to talk with folks from places like Aetna, AARP, Paypal, etc
16:40 <@Dagmar> Man once it warms up I'm going to have a really nice cardboard viewer
16:41 <@Dagmar> Spraying plastidip outside and then bringing the piece in to dry/cure *stinks like hell* so I am definitely waiting until it warms up before I start making final/permanent pieces
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16:45 <@Dagmar> Three layers of this backing board is actually a lot stronger than I expected
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16:49 < aestetix> Dagmar: If I play this right, I can probably get the EFF and ACLU to re-engage.
16:49 < aestetix> That woud be a really big deal.
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16:52 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: For what purpose?
16:52 <@benthemeek> Google cardboard?
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16:53 <@benthemeek> Strages has that set up and was showing it to me at Phreaknic
16:55 < strages> Dagmar: excellent idea!  Man I want to do that to mine now
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17:00 < aestetix> booo
17:00 < aestetix> I'm halfway through game 1. I bought game 2 because it was on sale. And game 3, which I prepaid for a year ago, just came out
17:06 < aestetix> and now staples got hacked
17:07 < aestetix> http://thedod.github.io/eff-crossword-2014/
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18:17 <@Evilpig>  NotLarry: ping
18:49 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: HELO
18:50 < RangerZ1> lol
19:40 <@Evilpig> I need to fix that dying disk
19:52 < aestetix> Dagmar: http://i.imgur.com/FF0grne.jpg
19:57 <@Evilpig> heh
20:12 < aestetix> man I hate this time of year
20:13 < aestetix> something *really* bad always happens to me
20:13  * aestetix has never had an unstressful hoiday
20:16 <@Evilpig> you know how my day went today?  I got up... cleaned up my desk... the housekeepers came and cleaned... I went to a movie... I had some dinner...  there is no stress
20:18 < aestetix> this is the time of year when I traditionally get laid off, or some other disaster happens
20:35 <@Evilpig> don't do that?
21:20 <@Evilpig> bah.  I can't figure out why this isn't firing the post processing script
21:24 < aestetix> ok wow
21:24 < aestetix> I haven't laughed at SNL in years
21:24 < aestetix> gawker.com/seth-meyers-to-sony-hackers-bring-it-on-read-my-email-1673347898
21:24 < aestetix> this is fucking hilarous
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