--- Log opened Mon Dec 01 00:00:01 2014
02:56 < aestetix_> Evilpig: found another nsfw picture of your gf: http://i.imgur.com/e4VDHlR.jpg
07:38 <@Dagmar> Dayum
07:38 <@Dagmar> BestBuy has 64Gb microSD cards on sale today for $23
07:39 <@Dagmar> Chromecasts for $25 (if you use Netflix and do not own one of these... BUY ONE)
07:50 < aestetix_> wow.
07:50 <@Dagmar> Also, they've got the LG G on sale for $80, with a $50 Google Play credit
07:50 <@Dagmar> ...which means the thing costs $30
07:51 <@Dagmar> It might take me the rest of the year to spend that $50 credit tho
07:52 <@Dagmar> I haven't worn a watch in over a decade tho
07:54 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to go see that unit in person before making a decision on it
07:58 < aestetix_> man
07:58 < aestetix_> there are some good deals
08:33 <@Dickie> Everything I own already plays Netflix
08:34 <@brimstone> my laptop doesn't netflix
08:42 <@Dagmar> You're not trying hard enough then.  Even Linux can Netflix now
08:46 <@brimstone> Chrome isn't linux
08:50 <@Dagmar> You're definitely not trying hard enough then
08:51 <@brimstone> i'm not trying at all actually
08:53 <@Dagmar> Well, don't come crying to us when the mafiaa come knocking at your door for not having enough passive entertainment absorbption on the record
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09:13 <@Dickie> I don't own your laptop
09:13 <@Dickie> Well, not that one.
09:13 <@Dickie> I own your old laptop.
09:13 <@Dickie> But it's mine now.
09:13 <@Dickie> MINE
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10:14 <@Dagmar> Hehehehe http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/831/
10:15 <@Dagmar> I like how Richard politely walks him to the answer
10:26 < aestetix_> s/netflix/piratebay
10:28 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: Netflix is _less trouble_
10:28 < aestetix_> Dagmar: assuming what you want to watch is available.
10:29 <@Dagmar> That's the same for everything
10:57 <@Dagmar> I'd rather like to see the third Atlas Shrugged movie, but apparently they backed out on their initial release date
10:59 < aestetix_> really?
10:59 < aestetix_> I thought it came out. I haven't seen it though.
10:59 < aestetix_> I saw the first two.
11:00 <@Dagmar> Yeah it was supposed to have come out, but it didn't even wind up making it to the Belcourt (the independent theater here that would certainly show it) and it's not even pirateably
11:00 <@Dagmar> I looked around and apparently they cancelled their release at the last minute
11:00 <@Dagmar> The website is still talking about pre-ordering the DVD and stuff
11:01 <@Dagmar> ...which for once, I'd actually consider, but I mainly just want to see the damn movie already.
11:01 <@Dagmar> The movie is considerably more understandable than the books
11:02 < aestetix_> heh
11:02 <@Dagmar> It is not so obvious that Rand is not holding up what's going on in those books as anything close to being a healthy society
11:02 < aestetix_> Given that I read the book 13 years ago...
11:02 <@Dagmar> She's actually making a fictional universe that's broken in exactly the opposite way our present situation is
11:03 <@Dagmar> She's _not_ trying to create some paen to the 1%, as some people seem to think
11:03 < aestetix_> Right. And she has characters in the book that represent the archetype of the 1%
11:05 <@Dagmar> She's sort of split their attributes between the two factions
11:06 <@Dagmar> It makes things a big confusing
11:06 <@Dagmar> Although I suspect her universe is slightly _less_ broken, since in this case it's the people who are actually creating real wealth that are getting fucked over
11:06 <@Dagmar> People who are doing things and inventing things that matter
11:07 <@Dagmar> Where our 1% mainly think wealth creation is about taking money from everyone else
11:07 <@Dagmar> ...and our citizenry are somehow convinced that money is wealth.
11:07 <@Dagmar> Our 1% are actually preventing anyone from creating real wealth
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11:42 <@Dagmar> Damn jackass fools
11:42 <@Dagmar> I try and be subtle about the "ROM all the things" campaign and they don't get it.
11:42 <@shapr> ?
11:42 <@Dagmar> If you can fucking *write* to the media, it will _never_ be *read-only* memory
11:42  * shapr reads the Dagmar monologue
11:42 <@Dagmar> The only thing tha will come of thinking of it like that is suffering and failure.
11:43 <@shapr> Dagmar: we could power a large company from your anger
11:43 <@Dagmar> Save it for when we need to restart the sun
11:45 <@Dagmar> https://plus.google.com/104092656004159577193/posts/KBGtmsxLneV <-- this is the thing I'm talking about
11:45 <@Dagmar> They're making a huge mistake by trying to pretend they've got true read-only storage
11:45 <@Dagmar> Until manufacturers add a non-overrideable hardware jumper, it's just going to lead people into temptation
11:45  * shapr is already tempted
11:46 <@brimstone> wait
11:46 <@Dagmar> I've got some old SCSI drives that had a read-only jumper on them
11:46 <@brimstone> people use google plus?
11:46 <@Dagmar> That's the last time I've seen that used effectively
11:47 <@shapr> brimstone: I do!
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12:28 < Synx|hm_> ugh
12:29 < Synx|hm_> so, i got the wife a new laptop and thought it came with win 8.1 pro
12:29 < Synx|hm_> but that doesn't seem to have been the case
12:29 <@brimstone> Vista Home?
12:29 < Synx|hm_> wonder if its worth it to fresh install it with 8.1 pro
12:29 < Synx|hm_> ha no
12:29 < Synx|hm_> some other 8.1 sku
12:29 <@brimstone> it's always worth a fresh install
12:29 < Synx|hm_> i kinda want media center on it so she can watch from our HTPC media center tv recordings
12:30 < Synx|hm_>  to ~and i put in my office 2013 key and fucking thing installed every product but wont let me choose just what i need
12:30 < Synx|hm_> *ignore the to ~* cat walked across keyboard
12:34 < Synx|hm_> hrm, i could put the SSD from her old laptop in this new one too while im at it
12:34 < Synx|hm_> decisions decisions
12:35 < Synx|hm_> hey look rain, guess i dont have to go string lights around the tree now
12:35 < Synx|hm_> ha
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12:46 <@Dagmar> Goddamn this guy just doesn't get it
12:46 <@Dagmar> Deploying LART to explain why most of the devices thye're talking about don't come _close_ to the definition of ROM
12:46 <@Dagmar> Especially fucking phoens
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13:04 <@Dagmar> Like, damn... Android people misuse "ROM" all the time, but let's not compound the problem further by attempting to use it to mean "customize" since that's pretty much diametrically opposed to what ROM actually freakin' means.
13:12 < aestetix_> http://gotnews.com/breaking-cops-nyt-reporter-published-darrenwilson-address-calling-cops-nonstop/
13:12 < aestetix_> you know this is going to anger all the fauxminists
13:19 < _NSAKEY> aestetix_: The difference is that this time, it really is about ethics in journalism.
13:29 <@Dagmar> recruiter call.  *shrug*
13:30 <@Dagmar> She *probably* should not have published the guy's home address.
13:30 <@Dagmar> That doesn't excuse the dickery, but I don't think publishing his address was a very bright thing to do
13:41 <@Dagmar> Bleh.  Gotta polish up the resume now
13:41 <@Dagmar> If the job didn't sound interesting, I would not be bothering
13:42 <@Dagmar> ...and good thing I remembered about Best Buy's little Rewards program thingy.  That 64Gb microSD card is only costing me $14.
13:43 <@Dagmar> Better still... they're downtown
13:45 <@klixa> aestetix_: i dont think 2 wrongs make a right, but i bet she never publishes an address again
13:45 <@Dagmar> I'm inclined to agree.
13:45 <@Dagmar> The information was effectively _trivia_, and did not particularly help the situation or teach anyone anything useful.
13:46 <@Dagmar> ...it would however, serve to incite the trolls.
13:46 <@Dagmar> ...and they're somewhat indiscriminate in their target selection.
13:46 <@Dagmar> ...and she also stepping into what they would view as _their_ domain, vis a vis "doxxing" the guy.
13:46 <@Dagmar> It should have been a no-brainer to realize they'd do the same back to her.
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14:03 <@Dagmar> LOL
14:03 <@Dagmar> "Denial of service for giant passwords. The phpass library by Solar
14:03 <@Dagmar>  Designer was used in both projects without setting a maximum password
14:03 <@Dagmar>  length, which can lead to CPU exhaustion upon hashing (CVE-2014-9034)."
14:03 <@Dagmar> SD is probably real happy to hear someone ignored that setting
14:08 <@Dagmar> Hahahah
14:09 <@Dagmar> http://news.yahoo.com/st-louis-police-group-criticizes-rams-players-154344114.html
14:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: St. Louis police group criticizes Rams players (at news.yahoo.com)
14:09 <@Dagmar> How terrible that they find it "offensive".
14:09 <@Dagmar> Maybe they should stop being so quick to shoot people to death
14:58 <@klixa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRZM9I7Psxs
14:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Police Detain Man for Walking With Hands In Pockets While it Snows On Thanksgiving - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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15:18 <@shapr> SHAZAM!
15:32 <@CRasH180> Black Adam!
15:35  * shapr hops wildly
15:57 < Synx|hm_> well thats fun
15:57 < Synx|hm_> does vcenter web console not fucking work in chrome?
15:57 <@Dagmar> It *should*
15:57 <@Dagmar> I never had a problem with it
15:59 < Synx|hm_> odd it doesn't even show up as an option in chrome
15:59 < Synx|hm_> maybe ill have to reinstall the plugin
16:03 <@Dagmar> I always just went to the webserver and let it launch the console thingie
16:03 <@timoguin> thingie
16:05 < Synx|hm_> ha now i see it
16:05 < Synx|hm_> odd
16:06 <@Dagmar> Wow I've got this Redditor dick pretty worked up
16:06 <@Dagmar> Better he hear this shit now than later when the greater public fucking laughs at them for misusing the term "ROM"
16:06 <@Dagmar> ...nevermind that loads of people won't know what the fuck "ROM all the things" means
16:07 <@CRasH180> A Random statement in a Read-only world
16:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah, ther'es _one_ of the problems in a nutshell
16:08 <@Dagmar> The _other_ phrase they're considering for trying to promote the idea is "Customize all the things"
16:09 <@Dagmar> It's just stupid to swap that for a term with a _read-only_ semantic
16:09 <@Dagmar> Dude is wanting to claim I'm being "pedantic"
16:09 <@Dagmar> This isn't fuckin' pedantry
16:09 <@Dagmar> He is _wildly_ far from making sense.
16:09 <@Dagmar> Might as well get the words "murder" and "massage" mixed up
16:10 <@Dagmar> 'cuz hey, they're just words, right?  they're all fucking interchangeable
16:10 <@Dagmar> They don't _mean_ anything
16:11 <@Dagmar> dafuq
16:11 <@Dagmar> Are dead people _normally_ allowed to testify in court?
16:11 <@Dagmar> If you've looked at /. today, you know why I'm asking this
16:12 <@Dagmar> An amicus brief is one thing, but amicus morte?
16:13 <@Dagmar> Being that one can't exactly cross-examine or further question a recorded statement from a dead person, I'm not sure that's going to fly
16:14 < Synx|hm_> umm wtf, why did my ip rule tables all go away
16:14 <@Dagmar> Entertainment value?
16:16 < Synx|hm_> and i just dropped my ssh haha by fucking with the routing tables
16:16 < Synx|hm_> doh
16:19 < Synx|hm_> um can i not send crtl-c in web console for vcenter?
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16:21 < Synx|hm_> oh thats specific to chrome
16:21 < Synx|hm_> ugh
16:25 <@Dagmar> Oh dear.  Hehe.  https://twitter.com/Honda
16:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Honda (@Honda) | Twitter (at twitter.com)
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16:36 <@shapr> yow!
16:41 <@timoguin> woy!
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17:25 <@Dickie> So when does the cybering happen?
17:25 <@Dickie> Have I missed something?
17:25 <@Dickie> a/s/l?
17:32 <@timoguin> no no it's a cyber PING
17:44 <@Dagmar> Wait... is Wilpig in Nashville at the moment?
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20:16 < aestetix_> Shadow404: when you do butt play, do you put a condom on the butt plug?
20:25 <@Bahhumbug> How about you put a condom on this nonsense?  It long ceased being amusing.
20:49 <@Dickie> The only thing about /ignore is that if you use it on the people that deserve it, you have a hard time following conversations
20:50 <@brimstone> that's why we have /kick!
20:50 <@Dickie> THAT BEING SAID
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20:50 <@brimstone> not a jew!
20:50 <@Dickie> It was a wakeup call
20:50 <@Dickie> Also, you're a Jew until proven otherwise
20:51 <@brimstone> to the one true religion?
20:51 <@Dickie> Mormons?
20:51 <@brimstone> whatever you want, i don't judge
20:51 <@Dickie> I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people
20:51 <@Dickie> I want to see The Book of Mormon
20:52 <@brimstone> amazon it?
20:52 <@Dickie> ...it's a play?
20:52 <@brimstone> netflix it?
20:54 <@Dickie> Good idea
20:55 <@Bahhumbug> Dickie: you can do /ignore nick!user@host -related in some clients and that will drop any text that includes attributions to nick!user@host
20:55 <@Bahhumbug> But yeah, in general /ignore is kinda useless.
20:56 <@Bahhumbug> The best solution is if the asshats that make you want to use /ignore in the first place stop being asshats.
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21:05 < dare2netsec> Does anyone know if the Raleigh chapter is meeting tomorrow?
21:05 <@Evilpig> tomorrow?
21:05 <@Evilpig> uhhhh no
21:06 <@Evilpig> 2600 meetings are fridays not tuesdays
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21:06 <@Evilpig> so happy to be back home in my own bed
21:07 <@benthemeek> How was the flight?
21:07 <@Evilpig> not horrible
21:07 < dare2netsec> I missread my calendar. Thanks.
21:08 <@Evilpig> was able to catch the earlier flight and got home three hours early
21:08 <@benthemeek> Did most people come home yesterday?
21:08 < dare2netsec> My first time going so I forgot it's on Fridays
21:08 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: oh yeah.  yesterday was a huge travel day
21:09 <@Evilpig> dare2netsec: don't let me run you off.  most people are nice, i'm a standout asshole
21:09 <@benthemeek> My sister flew back to baltimore last night
21:10 <@benthemeek> I havent heard how crowded it was but i bet waiting a day is the way to go
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21:11 <@benthemeek> Was thinking about getting the kids (and me) a wii u for christmas but its still rather pricey
21:12 <@benthemeek> Might give it another year
21:12 <@Bahhumbug> Evilpig: You're a kind hearted soul compared to me.
21:12 <@Evilpig> heh
21:13 <@Evilpig> benthemeek: it's $300 and worth it
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21:13 <@Evilpig> honestly that shit isn't gonna go down in price for at least another year or two minimum
21:13 <@benthemeek> yeah the other consoles don't interest me
21:14 <@Evilpig> I had a blast with my nephews.  the goal was to make one cry but I didn't hit it directly.  they both did cry before the weekend was over but not entirely related to my actions
21:14 <@Bahhumbug> You're slacking.
21:14 <@Evilpig> they're jaded
21:14 <@Bahhumbug> Well, this is likely true, yes.
21:14 <@Evilpig> I got the oldest mad enough to spike a controller
21:15 <@Bahhumbug> Awesome!
21:15 <@Bahhumbug> How old are they?
21:15 <@benthemeek> You deserve a C+ at least for that
21:15 <@Evilpig> hrmmm. 7 and 8 I think
21:15 <@benthemeek> smashbro's?
21:15 <@Evilpig> yeah he was pissed at smash bros
21:15 <@Bahhumbug> Excellent.  You're well on your way to turning them into psychopaths.
21:16 <@benthemeek> dealing with failure and loss is good.. builds character
21:16 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that
21:16 <@Evilpig> I had both of them ganging up on me and getting mad when I launched their little asses off the screen
21:16 <@Evilpig> their dad kept beating on me so I couldn't REALLY pound em
21:16 <@benthemeek> It support 8 players now right?
21:17 <@benthemeek> I cant imagine
21:17 <@Evilpig> yeah the 8 player smash is a riot
21:19 <@Evilpig> had fun telling my oldest nephew what he has to look forward to.  he's got the family dry scalp already and the thick hair.
21:20 <@benthemeek> You have just one sister?
21:20 <@Evilpig> technically?  three
21:20 <@Evilpig> and four brothers
21:21 <@benthemeek> Ah you cant have the honor of being both their favorite and their least favorite all at the same time
21:21 <@benthemeek> my siblings have not reproduced
21:21 <@Evilpig> mine wish they hadn't, at times
21:22 <@benthemeek> When/if they do they probaly will not let any of them near my family as we are Godless heathens now
21:22 <@Evilpig> here's my nephews being little shits.  https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/10689803_10154878609970054_4352627672029546888_n.jpg?oh=1f6392d02161046e3275171ccdff0758&oe=551BD460
21:26 <@benthemeek> Facebook says (and I quote) "Ask Wilbur for TV recommendations"
21:26 <@benthemeek> Thats and interesting feature. Havent seen it before
21:28 <@benthemeek> ITs a good call anyway because of your Plex server
21:28 <@Evilpig> lol
21:29 <@benthemeek> I am liking that new show about hackers btw. ITs short on accurate IT knowledge but they get the team/family thing right like firefly
21:29 <@benthemeek> (scorpion)
21:29 <@Evilpig> lastchild has been watching that
21:29 <@Evilpig> I havne't bothered cause the first few were reviewed so horribly
21:29 <@benthemeek> took a few episodes to find its stride but I hope it lasts
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21:30 <@benthemeek> After the first couple I would have quit but my wife insisted we keep watching and then I found myself genuinly interested
21:30 <@northrup> I've been watching that one from the start ... I like it... it has it's moments though. LOL
21:31 <@benthemeek> I am behind on agents of shield
21:31 <@benthemeek> that one I feel like is still struggling to find a team/family that people will care about
21:31 <@northrup> benthemeek: wasn't the first espisode the one where they had to drive under the plane and get an entire copy of the ATC OS?
21:32 <@benthemeek> those are the only two I watch
21:32 <@Dagmar> MythBuntu is done here
21:32 <@Dagmar> It fucking didn't record The Walking Dead
21:32 <@benthemeek> yeah I think so
21:33 <@benthemeek> that was one of the first anyway
21:33 <@benthemeek> The guy from american pie sort of steals the show often with his acting I think
21:34 <@benthemeek> All of them have various social issues for some reason it feels whedon-esk to me
21:34 <@benthemeek> I was very amused about the copy of a file that was still on the "router-hub"
21:35 <@benthemeek> The IT they do get wrong often. Wouldnt be hard to check it, I think they are lazy
21:35 <@Evilpig> carrying a pie through the airport coming back from KY was hiarious
21:35 <@northrup> Yeah... There is apparently another show that I was tipped to today called 'Black Mirror'
21:36 <@Dagmar> OOoh and it's on Netflix
21:36 <@northrup> benthemeek: The copy of the router was one where I laughed out loud much to the "WTF?" looks of the two people I was watching it with
21:36 <@benthemeek> yeah my wife is always "Is that real" and I am always absoltuly not.
21:37 <@benthemeek> The closest was the trojan they put on that sub shop website across the street from the organization they wanted to break into. That and maybe the screwed up SCADA upgrade
21:39 <@northrup> oh man - the SCADA upgrade!
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21:42 <@northrup> Dagmar: Myth should have said why it didnt' record in the logs if it was a show that had a season pass
21:45 <@Dagmar> I know why it didn't record.  It's mythBuntu
21:46 <@Dagmar> When I built the thing on Slackware, it took ages and tons of tweaking but it always worked
21:46 <@Dagmar> MythBuntu has some *flaws*
21:46 <@Dagmar> For example, the MySQL build is *ridiculously* slow
21:46 <@Dagmar> Searching the schedule takes anywhere from 40 seconds to a minutes and a half
21:46 <@Dagmar> My build took 8-15.
21:47 <@Dagmar> They didnt' put the proper settings in php.ini so unless you go and raise the limits on the number of query items, half of mythweb doesn't work
21:48 <@northrup> What the crap?!
21:48 <@benthemeek> This is like a final release?
21:48 <@benthemeek> not some beta?
21:49 <@benthemeek> Well enough sonicwall tweaking for the day. I am heading home
22:00 <@Dagmar> Yeah it's their release
22:00 <@Dagmar> They're not doing functionality checks on deliverables
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22:24 <@Dagmar> ookay...
22:24 <@Dagmar> I started watching Black Mirror.
22:24 <@Dagmar> I have only this to say:
22:24 <@Dagmar> o.O
22:25 <@Evilpig> this sounds like something I might want to check out now
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22:31 <@northrup> Dagmar: I haven't started yet - good though?
22:40 < aestetix_> So I wonder of LBJ's great society would have worked if Vietnam hadn't happened
23:25  * Dickie yawns
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