--- Log opened Sun Nov 30 00:00:00 2014
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02:08 < sasquatc3> anyone use camelcamelcamel alot? just wondering if the price history on items are fairly consistent generally for price drops
03:22 < RangerZ> sasquatc3: it was
03:22 < RangerZ> i haven't used it in a while
03:23 < RangerZ> but prices go up and down a lot
03:23 < RangerZ> especially for limited production items, like graphics cards
03:23 < RangerZ> light coin miners eat up ALL the AMD GPUs they can now a days
03:24 < RangerZ> which means the price is artificially inflated because of higher demand (outside the normal parts demand market)
04:45 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccMC5BChMeU .... wow.... from your daily "fuck this news story"
04:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: School Argues Low IQ Girl Wont Remember Sexual Assault - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
04:47 < RangerZ> but... glad the jury said "yeah... no..."
05:52 <@Dagmar> Depends on what type of "sexual assault" this was
05:53 <@Dagmar> Technically, rubbing her buttocks would be "sexual assault"
06:03 < RangerZ> honestly, thats not really the 'story' here, its more the school's dirty attempt to get out of paying 12k for counseling.... which apparently the jury felt was worth 1.4m in damages
06:21 <@Dagmar> Yes, because if you go to court with a shit answer like that, a jury will likely _fuck you_ for it
06:27 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Oh shit
06:27 <@Dagmar> http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/shocking-mistake-in-darren-wilson-grand-jury-364273731666
06:27 <@Dagmar> I thought the law cited was some deranged Missouri law
06:27 <@Dagmar> I didn't realize it was _that_ law
06:28 <@Dagmar> I would like to know who is going to follow up with an investigation into the misbehaviour of the DA
06:29 < aestetix_> that headline is wrong
06:29 < aestetix_> it should say "another shocking mistake"
06:29 <@Dagmar> Well, that one is a HUGE one
06:30 <@Dagmar> It effectively brought back a law that was declared unconstutional and unacceptable when I was still in High School
06:30 <@Dagmar> There is *no way* the DA should have brought that lie to court
06:30 <@Dagmar> That should easily be considered prosecutorial misconduct
06:30 <@Dagmar> ...if not perjery.
06:30 <@Dagmar> er perjury.
06:36 < aestetix_> oh wow
06:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah
06:42 <@Dagmar> So... is there a poker term for when you double down twice
06:42 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, that's not even allowed in blackjack
06:43 <@Dagmar> The time for protests are at an end
06:43 < aestetix_> wait
06:43 < aestetix_> how did she get her law degree
06:43 <@Dagmar> It's time to _demand_ they fire every last motherfucker involved in that department
06:44 <@Dagmar> ...becuase that DA _lied_, _knowingly_ to a grand jury.
06:44 <@Dagmar> There is no way in hell it could be claimed she didn't know the law was struck down in 1985.
06:44 <@Dagmar> That would be either gross incompetence, which would be a thing she should be fired for, or deliberately lying in court, which is also a thing she should be fired for
06:45 <@Dagmar> Fire everyone, starting with the DA, and working down from there.
06:45 <@Dagmar> F. i. r. e. d.
06:46 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps, we should just hold the first ever "gun drive".
06:46 <@Dagmar> Collect guns and deliver them to the citizens of Ferguson, MO, in order to preserve the sanctity and safety of it's citizens
06:47 <@Dagmar> If law enforcement is going to make it de facto legal to _execute citizens on the street_, then citizens should have the right to _execute law enforcement_ for making wrongful arrests
06:47 <@Dagmar> It's only fair.
06:54 < RangerZ> lawrence o'donnell is among my favorite tv show/etc hosts, because he actually wrote both TV/movies and Federal Law
06:55 < RangerZ> so he knows about how the law is constructed, etc, and goes and looks up original statues, etc.
06:58 < RangerZ> its like my advisor calling and asking Doug Lea about java concurrency...
06:58 < RangerZ> Best to ask the guy who wrote it...
07:02 <@Dagmar> St. Louis County Assistant District Attorney Kathy Alizadeh
07:02 <@Dagmar> I'm naming names.
07:06 <@Dagmar> Just posted it to FB.  Let's see how long it takes LEO to come hassle me
07:07 <@Dagmar> ...because I really *don't* see a reasonable outcome that doesn't involve outright revolt there, unless they start firing a shitload of people in Ferguson.
07:07 < RangerZ> its going to take an election
07:08 < RangerZ> and boots-on-the-ground organizing
07:08 <@Dagmar> ...or a revolt.
07:08 < RangerZ> elect a whole new set of county leaders
07:08 <@Dagmar> You can't elect an assistant DA.
07:08 < RangerZ> yes you can
07:08 <@Dagmar> You can, however, fire the fuck out of one.
07:08 < RangerZ> DA appoints them
07:08 < RangerZ> new DA = new asst. DAs
07:14 <@Dagmar> I see that _66 days later_ she tried to redact that by admitting the law had been struck down, pretending apparently that they just discovered their "mistake", but that's not a "mistake" that's even remotely reasonable to make.
07:14 <@Dagmar> Not when lives are at stake.
07:20 < RangerZ> the 'mistake' I think was pointed out by lawrence around day 64
07:20 < RangerZ> but I'd have to check the timelines on that one
07:21 < RangerZ> He's also the one who found out (publicly) what legal standing the POTUS had for the delayed action for the immigrants he just announced
07:22 < RangerZ> by asking law experts questions on air
07:22 < RangerZ> lol
07:39 < RangerZ> Juror: Federal Court overrides MO laws? Asst. DA: "as far as you need to know, just don't worry about that"
07:39 < RangerZ> THATS more fucking telling than anything
07:41 < RangerZ> first of all.... the fucking juror shouldn't have been 'questionable' on that aspect
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07:58 < aestetix_> wow
07:58 < aestetix_> 66 days isn't weeks
07:58 < aestetix_> that's months
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10:18 <@Dickie> then why do they say "allow 6-8 weeks for delivery"?
10:26 <@Dickie> "Give it a month or two"
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11:14 < aestetix_> this is awesome
11:14 < aestetix_> it has been raining all day
11:40 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/Atv94Ev.jpg
11:45 <@klixa> wtf is that
11:53 <@Dagmar> That's what happens when you don'ti put strict enough controls on medical personell
11:53 <@Dagmar> ...but at least we know he's _never_ getting laid.
11:55 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: someone somewhere, will find that sexy....somehow
11:55 <@oddball> The eyes are contacts, and the forehead is probably a salene injection which goes away after some time... the nose?  I got nothing.
11:55 <@Shadow404> stick on, his nose is deeper inside that glue on
11:56 <@Shadow404> notice we dont see a side profile
11:56 <@oddball> ...yes we do...
11:57 <@Shadow404> er, i missed that....hungover is the only excuse i got
11:57 <@Shadow404> hrmmm...
11:57 <@Shadow404> i still thihk plastic
11:58 <@Shadow404> the eyes look to deep not to be a mask
11:58 <@oddball> Yeah... possibly a full face prostetic.
11:58 <@Dagmar> The forehead bumps might be saline.  the ridges howeevr, look like insertions
11:58 <@Dagmar> THe nose is almost certainly real
11:58 <@Dagmar> ...and no, no one's going to fuck him.
11:58 <@Dagmar> Hookers would call the police.
11:58 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: dont be too sure
11:58 <@klixa> you think the nose is real? the entire head looks fake to me
11:59 <@Shadow404> i have seen some fucked up things be sexy to people
11:59 <@klixa> like a sculptre
11:59 <@Dagmar> I like klixas idea
11:59 <@Shadow404> hell, i have seen people get off on 2girls/1cup
11:59 <@Dagmar> I'll feel better about the entire thing being a sculpture
11:59 <@klixa> me too
12:00 < aestetix_> Shadow404: are you serioues?
12:00 < aestetix_> That video is one of the few things I can't watch all the way through without wanting to puke
12:04 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: like i said, there are some seriously fucked up people in all extremes
12:05 < aestetix_> Shadow404: also, what do you mean you've seen this? Were you in the room with them when they were jerking it?
12:28 <@oddball> Oh for fuck's sake... I seriously have someone on my facebook feed that's offended by the name of the town of Lynchburg.
12:55 <@Dagmar> So, to hell with them, then
12:56 <@Dagmar> They're probably trying to say it's racist, aren't they
12:56 <@Dagmar> Link them an article on the history of the town and tell them to shove their ignorance in a hole
13:05 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: they werent jerking, but a couple of them were into that....i went to another part of the house....to each their own
13:05 <@Dagmar> The part of the house that wasn't on fire, right/
13:20 <@Shadow404> bascially
13:21 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah... association with the term "lynch."
13:21 <@oddball> Which, in fairness, was coined after the actions of the brother of the guy that Lynchburg was named after.
13:25 <@Dagmar> Just the same, the town was named after a guy
13:25 <@Dagmar> ...and lynching isn't just for black people
13:25 <@oddball> Yeah.  I just responded "you know what? I love about an hour from that place, and you're literally the first person I've ever heard complain about the name."
13:34 <@oddball> And they've brought up the recent name change of the spanish town Castrillo Matajudios as an example of people waking up and changing the name from something horrible.  I think it's a little different when the name is literally "Fort Kill the Jews" in the local tongue.
13:44 <@Dagmar> That's generally the point where I suggest someone will serve a better purpose in life as _food_, at the rate they're going
13:44 <@Dagmar> did that to someone in trade chat in WoW this morning, actually
13:46 <@Dagmar> I also had to explain that, it doesn't matter if someone reports you for "language" if the GMs _agree_ with you, and the GMs are *adults*.
13:46 <@Dagmar> No matter what I've said on there, I have never gotten a single warning notice.
13:46 <@Dagmar> But seriously, the guy wanted to know which NPC sold the level 3 garrison schematics
13:46 <@Dagmar> Said he was standing next to the garrison architect table
13:46 <@Dagmar> There are two NPCs there.  One on each side.
13:47 <@Dagmar> One of them has "<Garrison Schematics>" under his name in big green letters.
13:47 <@Dagmar> He is also a gnome.
13:47 <@Dagmar> The other one is a human.
13:47 <@Dagmar> The other one *tells* you the gnome sells the schematics.
13:47 <@Dagmar> At level 92.
13:48 <@Dagmar> Dude is literally standing in front of the goddamn NPC, and gets bent out of shape because we tell him "Talk to the GNOME"
13:48 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking maybe MapleStory is more his speed
13:49 <@Evilpig> heh.  I've gotten temp bans over language
13:50 <@Dagmar> I don't swear gratuitously, but I don't hold back either
13:51 <@Dagmar> Considering this kids response was a long and winding set of statements involving various sex acts between my mother and a sister I don't have, I suspect he'll be spending Tuesday claiming they're being unfair for banning him on the opening day of the new raid
13:51 <@Dagmar> Heh my guild people haven't seen me much in like two years
13:51 <@Evilpig> haha
13:52 <@Dagmar> In that time they've actually adopted a pretty serious taste for raiding
13:52 <@Dagmar> They were asking Gaines last night where he found me
13:52 <@Dagmar> I pulled off some high-risk shit in Molten Core and did the same in a few heroics we did
13:53 <@Dagmar> Hell twice this morning I finished off a boss, and looked around to see I was the only person still alive.  Heh
13:53 <@Dagmar> I haz MANY buttons
13:54 <@Dagmar> All this, and when someone asks me to pull out "the spellpower pet" I'm like "Which um... one is that?"
14:23 <@oddball> Seeing that you can now straight up buy levels in WoW, expect more of that stupidity from high level player characters.
14:25 <@Dagmar> No, this wasn't even that
14:25 <@Dagmar> This was someone who was stubbornly expcting someone to give them coordinates or tell them the NPCs name
14:26 <@Dagmar> ...but they wouldn't say that.  For _normal_ people, "talk to the gnome" would have been sufficient because there is only ONE gnome in that room
14:26 <@Dagmar> ...and it's not a big room.
14:27 <@Bahhumbug> Good to see the entitlement syndrome is alive and well in WoW, too.
14:27 <@Dagmar> The interface is _incredibly_ explicit now
14:27 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Truth
14:28 <@Dagmar> Like, you don't have to worry about complete idiots even making it into the pug system anymore
14:28 <@Dagmar> To get into Heroics at all you have to have basically, done and looted everything from doing the instances in normal mode (gets you to 615) as well as make it to silver level in the Proving Grounds
14:29 <@Dagmar> ...which is basically a set of mock dummy mobs in an arena you *must* be able to do your thing with (heal/tank/dps) to a certain level of competency
14:29 <@Dagmar> I am *raid geared* and getting gold level requires damn near 100% efficiency
14:30 <@Dagmar> ...and in case you just boosted to 90, or you're suffering the effects of L2P mode becuase your class was completely revamped, there's a pane in the interface that *it shows you* which tells you basically, what four spells to cast
14:31 <@Dagmar> Gear is damn easy to get because bosses now drop things _relevant to both your class and specialization_, or nothing but money
14:31 <@Dagmar> There is gear for every spec
14:31 <@Dagmar> ...and it can randomly decide to become a purple drop instead of the usual 615/620/630
14:32 <@Dagmar> ...and the interface now has a section that doesn't quite explain the instance fights, but it does tell you the things to watch out for and focus on
14:32 <@Dagmar> Occasionally we link it to people
14:33 <@Dagmar> But largely, if you can manage to not stand in the path of the boss, and stay out of the stuff on the floor... stuff like that, it tells you about the special things like "When the boss uses [Inhale], move to the gooey skeletons on the floor so it doesn't suck you up."
14:34 <@Dagmar> So we don't really have to even *type* it, we can just link the page in chat
14:34 <@Dagmar> The Upper Blackrock Spire revamp is kind of hilarious tho
14:34 <@Dagmar> Something fuckin' broke with it
14:35 <@Dagmar> In regular mode, about a third of the mechanics for heroic mode avtivate
14:35 <@Dagmar> ...and in heroic mode, it's psychotic
14:35 <@Dagmar> So if you're thinking, "oh everything's easy-mode now", it's not
14:36 <@Dagmar> (although if you use DBM, it *also* basically tells you in realtime WTF you're supposed to do.)
14:37 <@Dagmar> I accidentally went through one of the instance in Heroic mode, sight unseen tho'.  I figured out about halfway through why it was so fucking hard.  lol
14:38 <@Dagmar> That was also the night I uh... hehe... put a leather wrist piece on my hunter by mistake
14:38 <@Dagmar> Boom.  No more 5% stat bonus
14:38 <@Evilpig> I still remember back in vanilla when T2 and T3 were added and the mechanics weren't really tuned for everyone being all geared otu and I ended up tanking most of the time without pants on
14:38 <@Dagmar> It was a 636 heroic warforged item that was actually bind on equip and I was so freaked I thought it was a regular piece of gear
14:39 <@Dagmar> I do like the fact that there's a lot of encounters where, no one gets to nap.
14:39 <@Dagmar> ...because the boss has a mechanic they'll do that means some _specific_ person is about to be murdered unless people pay attention
14:40 <@Dagmar> Like, one fight on a very high platform, the boss will summon an add that will grab someone, pick them up, and try to carry them off the adge of the platform
14:40 <@Dagmar> ...and there's one with a wall-of-death-holding-hands in it
14:41 <@Dagmar> ...where you must drop everything, and everyone attack _one_ mob out of the chain
14:41 <@Dagmar> That was the one this morning where the entire group died and I finished the fight.  Heh
14:41 <@Dagmar> After that some people fessed up they'd never been there before
14:41 <@Dagmar> hehe
14:42 <@Evilpig> that's the kind of shit you get from vote kicks
14:42 <@Dagmar> So, other than people panicking because "OMG.  I'm in UBRS." and dropping group at the first sign of trouble, the ranom heroics work pretty well
14:42 <@Evilpig> "oh you've never been here?  fuck you... *kick*"
14:43 <@Dagmar> It takes like thirty seconds to get someone up to speed on what the special fight mechanics are
14:43 <@Evilpig> but people don't want to do that
14:43 <@Dagmar> I expect that Tuesday night, I'm going to be paying 200-400g in repairs when Highmaul (the new raid) comes out
14:44 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Actually, that's changing a bit because now you've _got_ to have made silver level in the proving grounds before you can queue
14:44 <@Dagmar> So, you know they're not idiots
14:44 <@Dagmar> They're just missing a few key pieces of information
14:44 <@Dagmar> I've seen a few zergtanks, but at least most of them *know* they need to mind the healer
14:45 <@Dagmar> I was out-dpsing  few tanks this morning.
14:45 <@Dagmar> Hehe
14:45 <@Dagmar> I've had to explain that a few times.  Normally this would mean I would be taking aggro and getting murdered
14:46 <@Dagmar> Tanks are like "i can't taunt all this stuff away from you man"
14:46 <@Dagmar> ...and my response is "I use Misdirection every time it's up or I *would* die
14:46 <@Dagmar> They literally *can't* lose threat to me
14:47 <@Dagmar> I do enough being chased all over creation in instances as it is
14:47 <@Dagmar> They've added a new 'Fixate' mechanic, where a very obvious pair of eyes icon appears over your toon, to let you know, "something is coming to kill you now"
14:48 <@Dagmar> ...and in this one instance, they send a giant-ass arcane juggernaut after _whoeevr is farthest from the boss_
14:48 <@Dagmar> I spend the entire fight fleeing and shooting
14:49 <@Dagmar> ...because if I don't, it'll go after someone who *isn't* able to cast and run, like the healer.  Hehe
14:49 <@oddball> So... apparently there are now guys with guns on the rooftops of Ferguson protecting the stores.
14:49 <@Dagmar> That's one of those things that's not mentioned in the encounter jounal, but it's handy to know
14:49 <@Dagmar> oddball: Which is what should have happened from the start
14:49 <@oddball> Well, there were.  The cops told them to leave or get arrested.
14:50 <@oddball> because, you know, the cops have everything under control.
14:51 <@Dagmar> I would have deployed guys with rubber bullet guns
14:51 <@oddball> The cops already tried that.
14:52 <@oddball> Oddly enough, it's actually damned hard to find rubber bullets as a civilian.  Also, I'm not sure what the legal stance is on civilians using rubber bullets.
14:52 <@Evilpig> wtf did I miss
14:53 <@oddball> On the other hand, you are legally completly in the clear firing on someone that's throwing molotov coctails at you/the building.
14:53 <@Evilpig> wow -> cops w/ rubber bullets
14:54 <@oddball> The cops in Ferguson used rubber bullets and bean bag rounds in the first wave of protests, and I believe they have in the last week as well.
14:58 <@Evilpig> on hte news here at mom's they were talking about the dipshits on the interstates blocking traffic.  my parents didn't agree with my stance of run them the fuck over
15:00 <@oddball> Yeah... don't do that.  Fucks up you alignment.
15:00 <@Evilpig> just added something neat to plex.  looking forward to checking it out later.  "HBO Documentary Film Series - S2014E27 - Banksy Does New York"
15:01 <@oddball> heh
15:05 <@Evilpig> it isn't loading the metadata for some weird reason
16:15 <@northrup> Evilpig: How do you like Plex for the home?
16:22 <@Evilpig> it's nice
16:24 <@northrup> I have been on the path looking for a clone of the Kaleidescape to no avail :(
16:25 <@Evilpig> the plex client isn't bad
16:25 <@Evilpig> it needs some polish but you can get it done
16:26 <@Evilpig> a windows pc + plex + a remote and you'd be set
16:37 <@oddball> Doesn't need to be a windows PC.  In fact, I believe the development team uses macs, and the server software runs well under linux.
16:37 <@oddball> I don't think the web-based client disables the screen saver unde linux properly, though.
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16:48 <@northrup> Hmm... so no local support from Plex for say a Raspberry Pi front end... I have been holding off, but I think I might just have to go down the path of custom MythTV front-end
16:50 < sasquatc3> i still like xbmc (or kodi as they are now calling it)
16:50 <@oddball> As in wanting a client for it or to use it as a server?
16:50 < sasquatc3> but i dont really need the streaming stuff of plex
16:51 < sasquatc3> plus there are some nice ios/android remotes for it, so i just use the ipad as a remote
16:51 <@northrup> oddball: more for wanting it as a client.  I don't have a problem with warehousig a server and drive array somewhere, just want a thin client at the TV that has chip based mpeg decoding
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16:58 <@oddball> google is your friend
16:58 < sasquatc3> theres also xbmc/kodi for raspberry pi as well, http://kodi.tv/download/
16:59 <@oddball> Not surprised.  Plex forked off of xbmc, after all.
16:59 < sasquatc3> yup
16:59 <@oddball> I guess it's just a question of which one you want to use.
16:59 < sasquatc3> a buddy at work had it running on his pi there when they first started working on it, even the initial versions ran fairly well
16:59 < sasquatc3> and that was like a year ago
17:00 <@oddball> I started using Plex simply because there's a client for my Roku2, and there's not for xbmc.
17:00 < sasquatc3> yea, definitely, if you got one of the plex only devices its the way to go
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20:33 < aestetix_> apparently there is a sexual fetish called "cake farting"
20:45 <@Dickie> Where have you been?
20:45 <@Dickie> This is common knowledge.
20:50 < aestetix_> http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/30/travel/thanksgiving-travel-home/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
20:50 < aestetix_> It appears that there are massive lines at the airport due to TSA incompetence
21:08 <@Evilpig> well duh
21:46 <@Shadow404> Where have you been?
21:46 <@Shadow404> This is common knowledge
21:48 <@sync350> I was really hoping the cnn article with the thanksgiving-travel url was going to be related to “cake farting"
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23:07 <@Evilpig> http://surfnstacey.tumblr.com/post/104031384790/tastefullyoffensive-honest-slogans
23:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: Every Night's Another Story (tastefullyoffensive: Honest Slogans) (at surfnstacey.tumblr.com)
23:07 <@Evilpig> ouch ea...  lol
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