--- Log opened Sat Nov 22 00:00:39 2014
00:14 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r2L2ZJtewHQ#t=703
00:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: Obama Goes It Alone On Immigration Reform - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:14 < RangerZ2> thats great
00:14 < RangerZ2> "that style is : Fuck You!!"
00:15 < Synx|hm> anyone know a good data recovery firm that can do SD card recovery
00:15 < Synx|hm> card is unmountable in any OS, likely a controller failure
00:15 < Synx|hm> has the first 4 months of my childs life on it
00:16 < RangerZ2> there was one back home that was suppose to be really good... but honestly.. I'd say just look online.... b/c everyone in here probably has backups for their backups (everyone else... that is)
00:16 < Synx|hm> ya
00:17 < Synx|hm> hard to get the wife to buy off on the backup plan, she loves to keep her camera card full at all times
00:17 < RangerZ2> you need to get her one of the cameras with a cell chip in it
00:17 < Synx|hm> once it hits her laptop it auto backups to my domain controller and then from there to a simple RAID and then to glacier
00:17 < RangerZ2> lol
00:17 < RangerZ2> ahh, nice
00:17 < Synx|hm> but its that first step
00:17 < Synx|hm> ha
00:18 < RangerZ2> http://www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com/devices-supported/ssd-data-recovery/ this is the one i've heard about... but from a commercial...
00:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Data Recovery by DriveSavers | SSD Data Recovery (at www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com)
00:18 < RangerZ2> also... call the TBI (or your state's FBI equivalant), and ask them
00:18 < Synx|hm> oh thats not a bad idea
00:18 < RangerZ2> because Ohio has an inhouse firm that does SSD/HDD drive recovery
00:19 < RangerZ2> I took my Computer Forensics course with one of their staff BCI (Bureau of Criminal Investigation) (read: computer CSI)
00:19 < RangerZ2> we got to play with nice toys
00:19 < RangerZ2> lol
00:19 < Synx|hm> :)
00:20 < RangerZ2> but FYI, basically it is just 2 programs that do binary search from DD data dumps
00:20 < RangerZ2> lol
00:20 < RangerZ2> you just enter regex patterns to look for, and file headers/footers
00:20 < RangerZ2> that gets you ~90% of the material you need
00:21 < RangerZ2> and windows has a registry key you can set to disable writing to USB
00:21 < Synx|hm> interesting
00:22 < Synx|hm> what if you ASM your way to USB device writing?
00:22 < RangerZ2> most CSI stuff, is just the word of the investigator and the testimony they can give
00:23 < RangerZ2> Synx|hm: so... Dual Core's intX80 gave an interesting talk about that at ...derbycon... ?
00:23 < RangerZ2> about how to _attack_ computer investigators
00:23 < Synx|hm> interesting
00:24 < RangerZ2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnCase and...
00:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: EnCase - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
00:25 < Synx|hm> hey at least we know some success cases with this
00:25 < RangerZ2> I can't remember the name of the other offhand... but basically EnCase can do it all
00:25 < Synx|hm> unlike with xkeyscore
00:25 < RangerZ2> until you get to mobile/etc
00:25 < RangerZ2> the guy who writes the FBI and (most other police)'s backdoor into iphones is from youngstown actually
00:26 < RangerZ2> he came and gave a talk at my class
00:26 < Synx|hm> neat
00:26 < RangerZ2> (his g/f was the prof), lol
00:26 < Synx|hm> ha
00:26 < aestetix_> heh
00:26 < aestetix_> lolencase
00:26 < RangerZ2> aestetix_: you know it does what its suppose to
00:26 < RangerZ2> just not much else, lol
00:26 < aestetix_> RangerZ2: yes I know
00:27 < aestetix_> Synx|hm: also look at sleuthkit
00:27 < RangerZ2> apparently the iphone when hooked up to stuff... has a firewire based connection
00:27 < aestetix_> scalpel *might* be useful if you image the drive
00:27 < RangerZ2> so it has direct memory access
00:28 < Synx|hm> cant trust anything these days
00:28 < RangerZ2> so any device you connect an iphone (up to ...2~3 at least) was able to root the phone
00:28 < RangerZ2> IF it had the right software
00:28 < RangerZ2> he wouldn't give me the software... :(
00:28 < RangerZ2> lol
00:29 < RangerZ2> not sure about the newer phones
00:29 < RangerZ2> I wouldn't be surprised if that is still true
00:29 < RangerZ2> (which is why they are allowed to probably sell them in the USA)
00:29 < RangerZ2> lol
00:29 < RangerZ2> DMA = you're fucked
00:30 < Synx|hm> "allowed" yup basically sums up the state of affairs here
00:30 < RangerZ2> so any firewire
00:30 < RangerZ2> any display port
00:30 < RangerZ2> hmm...display port... I'm not sure
00:30 < RangerZ2> but any lightning connector
00:30 < RangerZ2> they are all 'hack me' ports
00:30 < RangerZ2> lol
00:35 < aestetix_> Synx|hm: oh wait you said the card is unmountable
00:35 < aestetix_> hmmm
00:36 < aestetix_> is it recognized as a device?
00:36 < aestetix_> now you have me in puzzle solving mode
00:36 < Synx|hm> windows shows it as a drive but fails to mount it
00:36 < aestetix_> ok
00:36 < Synx|hm> osx doesn't show it, kernel logs show mount failures
00:36 < aestetix_> ok
00:36 < Synx|hm> same with *nix
00:36 < Synx|hm> :(
00:36 < aestetix_> with *nix can you dd it to a file?
00:36 < Synx|hm> cant get mount to complete
00:37 < aestetix_> you don't need to mount to dd
00:37 < Synx|hm> oh didn't know that
00:37 < Synx|hm> ill give that a try
00:37 < aestetix_> just dd if=/dev/ssdcard of=whateverfile
00:37 < Synx|hm> ha duh
00:37 < aestetix_> or something like that
00:38 < aestetix_> do you mind pasting the kernel log?
00:38 < aestetix_> ie the syslog or whatever
00:38 < aestetix_> I'm interested in *which* error it is
00:38 < Synx|hm> sure, ill have to unbox it (just moved) but i can post it
00:38 < aestetix_> oh heh
00:38 < aestetix_> I was just curious
00:39 < Synx|hm> not sure ill be able to unbox nwo though (im on a conf call working at the moment)
00:39 < Synx|hm> no totally legit and now i want to try DD
00:39 < aestetix_> basically one thought is
00:39 < aestetix_> if you can DD it to a file
00:39 < aestetix_> you can 1. loopback mount it as a drive 2. file carve on it
00:39 < Synx|hm> yup that would be amazing if it worked :)
00:39 < aestetix_> since dd doesn't care about the filesystem structure, it just cares about the 1s and 0s
00:40 < aestetix_> let's just say I have done a lot of stupid things with drives
00:40 < aestetix_> like replacing a critical file with penis
00:41 < Synx|hm> hate it when i do that
00:41 < Synx|hm> its a small problem, only 8% of kids have it
00:41 < aestetix_> yeah I think RangerZ2 is a carrier
00:44 < RangerZ2> huh?
00:45 < Synx|hm> penis envy
00:45 < RangerZ2> ...sure...
00:52 < Synx|hm> hey either of you have sleep paralysis
01:00 < Synx|hm> happy saturday
01:03 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J6reXoO-3k HAHAHA
01:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: Marvel Announces Howard the Duck Comic Book - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:10 < Synx|hm> cant find a screen cap but i was watching planes 2 with the kiddo the other night and noticed a "howard the truck" drop in
01:10 < Synx|hm> ha
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01:41 < RangerZ2> http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/11/22/0023225/critical-xss-flaws-patched-in-wordpress-and-popular-plug-in ...
01:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Critical XSS Flaws Patched In WordPress and Popular Plug-In - Slashdot (at it.slashdot.org)
01:53 < Synx|hm> so tired
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11:59 <@Dagmar> "Unfortunately for Google's Android One, it has been on the receiving end of this friction. Leading brick and mortar retailers in India have refused to sell Android One handsets ever since the US company chose to launch its products exclusively online."
11:59 <@Dagmar> Who *else* sees a serious problem with these statements?
12:00 <@Dagmar> Oh dear
12:01 <@Dagmar> I genuinely think the level of stupid in the universe is increasing exponentially
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12:23 < RangerZ> Dagmar: meaning that the B&M refuse to buy the phones the same way that everyone else does, and not get a huge discount  to give them a 15~30% profit margin
12:30 < RangerZ> which is stupid b/c indian b&m could easily get 30% profit if they bought it and then sold it, ... b/c my indian friends almost always go home with 5 of the newest phones with them (the max you can take with it being classified as 'personal' amounts
12:30 < RangerZ> b/c the price of phones in india is stupid high... like ~3x higher than USA
12:30 <@Dagmar> The problem goes deeper.
12:30 <@Dagmar> There's another /. talking about the EU's idea that they should try to break up Google, to _separate search from the other services_
12:31 <@Dagmar> This is the fucking dumbest thing I've heard of in awhile
12:31 <@Dagmar> Let's try separating humans from oxygen while we're at it
12:31 < RangerZ> the best part is their reason WHY
12:31 < RangerZ> that google will show their own products higher ON THEIR OWN SEARCH
12:31 < RangerZ> rather than MS's
12:31 < RangerZ> etc
12:32 < RangerZ> umm...
12:33 < RangerZ> why the fuck would/ SHOULD google list ANYONE on _its_ services
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12:34 <@Dagmar> It took them ages to get to the point where tehy would do that
12:34 <@Dagmar> ...and it's because malware people were gaming the results in order to infect people looking for Google's stuff
12:34 <@Dagmar> ...and even now you have to be _very_ damn specific before that will happen
12:34 <@Bahhumbug> Why do you waste your time and emotional energy on trash .?
12:35 <@Dagmar> Just searching for "email" won't get you a gmail link
12:35 <@Bahhumbug> Especially over something the EU has all of Jack and Shit control over.
12:35 <@Dagmar> BECAUSE WE HAVE EQUALLY STUPID POLITICIANS HERE
12:35 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60E7U2Zxuy0
12:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bill Cosby Accused By Celebritys Wife - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:35 < RangerZ> ....
12:35 <@Bahhumbug> I pay them just as much notice.
12:36 <@Bahhumbug> But politicians aside, the average trash . commenter is a gibbering idiot.
12:37 <@Bahhumbug> mock is pissing me off :/
12:37 <@Bahhumbug> This is turning into A Project.  I didn't want A Project; I wanted a quick hack.
12:37 <@Bahhumbug> I don't need another Project :/
12:40 <@Dagmar> The commenters aren't what I'm irked about
12:41 <@Dagmar> I don't read the fucking comments on Slashdot
12:41 < RangerZ> ahh, where is the fun in that
12:41 < RangerZ> thats the best part of /.
12:42 <@Bahhumbug> The best part of trash. is not going to trash.
12:42 < RangerZ> its like gathering a group of PN website devs together into a single forum
12:42 <@Bahhumbug> That's a low blow.
12:42 < RangerZ> its sorta like a little social experiment
12:42 <@Bahhumbug> To the average trash. commenter.
12:42 < RangerZ> lol
12:43 < RangerZ> and actually i don't really blame the 'developer'
12:43 < RangerZ> i blame the person doing the hosting, and the ones giving 'direction' of how the site should work
12:43 < RangerZ> etc
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14:39 <@brimstone> anyone seen any good 16 drive computer cases?
14:41 <@wilpig> just the ones from supermicro
14:41 <@brimstone> i have all of the innerards, just need a bigger case
14:42 <@wilpig> http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/storage.cfm
14:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Super Micro Computer, Inc. | Products | Supermicro Storage Chassis Solutions (at www.supermicro.com)
14:47 <@brimstone> someone suggests: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112412 + 3x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817993002&Tpk=STB-3T4-E3-GP
15:19 < RangerZ2> LIAN LI  has among the best reviews for build quality (having rounded over metal cuts, entire case being painted inside and out , etc
15:20 <@brimstone> then i find things like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131352480485
15:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: 3U Supermicro 16BAY Server X7DB8 2X Intel Quad Core L5420 32GB 836TQ R800B | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
15:20 <@brimstone> and 4TB drives for $165 and 6TB drives for $300
15:21 < RangerZ2> i'm going to assume this isn't for 'personal' use?
15:21 <@brimstone> this is totally for personal use
15:21 < RangerZ2> b/c the jump to 6TB isn't worth it
15:21 < RangerZ2> also, make sure to get WD REDs or other RAID featured controller card'd HDDs
15:22 < RangerZ2> but honestly, I'd probably go with one of the 'cube' designs
15:22 < RangerZ2> because recently I've liked those alot more than towers
15:22 <@brimstone> link?
15:22 < RangerZ2> let me look for one real quick
15:25 <@brimstone> ah, here's the link i was looking for, why backblaze hasn't upgraded to 6TB drives yet: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/why-now-is-the-time-for-backblaze-to-build-a-270-tb-storage-pod/
15:28 < RangerZ2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119290
15:28 < RangerZ2> this is a 'water cooling' pc
15:28 < RangerZ2> BUT... you can use the 2nd smaller 'stacker' to store 12 HDDs in it
15:28 <@brimstone> huh
15:28 < RangerZ2> just watch the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K3n3xVu40
15:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cooler Master HAF Stacker - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:29 < RangerZ2> its a little weird
15:29 < RangerZ2> but not bad
15:29 < RangerZ2> plus... you can stack the smaller ones for 'hdd' modules, etc
15:29 <@brimstone> huh, there's a small starting unit too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=11-119-293
15:31 < RangerZ2> its a 'stacker' system
15:31 < RangerZ2> where you can stack them ontop of each other into a single massive tower
15:31 < RangerZ2> or split them apart
15:31 < RangerZ2> etc
15:31 < RangerZ2> or two of those 915s stacked... would give you a mini-ITX with ~20 HDD slots
15:36 < RangerZ2> hmm... you're 'suppose' to be able to buy those HDD cages...
15:36 < RangerZ2> i can't seem to find them...
15:36 < RangerZ2> b/c honestly... the entire thing screams storage to me more than water cooling
15:36 < RangerZ2> lol
15:38 <@brimstone> it's not as big as a full 3U i don't think, and probably not as loud
15:39 < RangerZ2> yeah, and with as many mesh vents on it
15:40 < RangerZ2> watch, there are 2 versions of the small one
15:40 < RangerZ2> r and non-r (where the power supply is)
15:40 < RangerZ2> r and f* correction
15:45 < RangerZ2> ahh the cages hold 3 each, not 4
15:49 < RangerZ2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833114122 plus a 10gbit nic
15:49 < RangerZ2> lol
15:49 < RangerZ2> if you want sillyness
15:50 <@brimstone> i'm always up for sillyness
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15:50 <@brimstone> huh, 10g copper
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15:51 < RangerZ2> 6e does 10gb?
15:52 < RangerZ2> i forget
15:52 < RangerZ2> that would be why... it doesn't exist
15:53 < RangerZ2> cat 6 apparently (6a)
15:57 < RangerZ2> brimstone: and when I meant 'cube' I meant something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139033 (which apparently are smaller than I thought, and don't have that much HDD space
15:57 <@brimstone> cute though
15:59 < RangerZ2> yeah, more of a 'living room pc'
15:59 < RangerZ2> though... I think this is even better for that http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147222
16:00 < RangerZ2> something even a 'wife' would allow in an entertainment cabinet
16:00 < RangerZ2> lol
16:05 <@Shadow404> wilpig: 2 copies were used of out of the 3 yesterday, i havent checked today yet if all 3 got claimed
16:08 < aestetix_> penis
16:26 <@Dagmar> http://www.themarysue.com/pokemon-oras-sexism/
16:27 <@Dagmar> Galloping moronism right there
16:27 <@Dagmar> Calling the Pokemon demo 'quiet mysogyny'
16:29 < aestetix_> How is pokemon mysogyny?
16:29 <@Dagmar> Because the author is a fucking idiot
16:29 < aestetix_> Do the pokemon even have genders?
16:30 < aestetix_> I mean there's no "penisaur, I choose you!"
16:32 < RangerZ2> aestetix_: because the game only lets you play as the male character
16:32 < RangerZ2> b/c the japanese don't understand hipster tumbler ideas
16:33 < RangerZ2> and didn't realize that you need to allow the DEMO to choose male or female (which is playable in the full game)
16:33 < aestetix_> Give me a man who can give birth and then we'll talk about equality.
16:34  * RangerZ2 points to Govonator
16:34  * RangerZ2 chuckles to myself
16:34 < aestetix_> You know, tumblr kids could learn to program and make their own game.
16:35 < RangerZ2> TFYC tried that
16:35 < RangerZ2> and were told they were being sexist
16:35 < aestetix_> Although I sense their github issue list would be filled with sniping each other over language.
16:35 < aestetix_> TFYC?
16:35 < RangerZ2> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-fine-young-capitalists--2
16:36 < RangerZ2> "feminsts" decided it was 'sexist' so they had that campaign closed
16:36 < RangerZ2> zoe quinn
16:36 < RangerZ2> anita sarcesian
16:36 < RangerZ2> etc
16:36 < RangerZ2> "the usual actors"
16:36 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Actually, it's only the demo that lets you play as the male only
16:37 <@Dagmar> Because it's a fucking demo.
16:37 < RangerZ2> thought I made that clear in what I said
16:37 < RangerZ2> but apparently not
16:37 < RangerZ2> but yes, you are clear
16:37 <@Dagmar> My larger issue is that these people are fundamentally engaging in mental midgetry
16:37 <@Dagmar> They're deliberately conflating "a minor imbalance" with *hate*
16:38 <@Dagmar> In no fucking possible way is having a character with one gender--WHOSE GENITALS DO NOT MATTER IN THE LEAST TO THE GAME OR THE STORYLINE--sexist, let along misogynist
16:39 <@Dagmar> Is the protagonist in POkemon every FUCKING ANYONE?
16:39 <@Dagmar> No.
16:39 <@Dagmar> Do they even use the damn bathroom?
16:39 <@Dagmar> No.
16:39 <@Dagmar> Can you EVEN PURCHASE GENDER-SPECIFIC CLOTHING in the demo?
16:40 <@Dagmar> NO.
16:40 <@Dagmar> That last one you can do in the full game... probably
16:40 < aestetix_> Pokemon is sexist because when they are in the little ball things, it looks like testicles.
16:40 <@Dagmar> In the last one, all I have to say is those "messenger bags" looked suspiciously like purses
16:41 < RangerZ2> aestetix_:  look into that campaign... they wanted a 'game idea' from a female who couldn't code/etc... and they would make the game... and the 'game idea' creator would get 7% of the game's profits, and 66% would go into funding the next game in the series.... and the rest into paying artists/coders... and management....  and ....
16:41 <@Dagmar> The real problem is that these people are engaging in deliberate misuse of language
16:41 <@Dagmar> "heteronormative" is not a reasonable or useful term in common speech.
16:41 < RangerZ2> Zoe Quinn/Sarcesian said that it was 'sexist' that the 'game idea' female wasn't getting more than 7%
16:41 <@Dagmar> Being heterosexual IS goddamn normal
16:41 <@Dagmar> Deal with it.
16:41 <@Dagmar> Technically, being homosexual is "abnormal" but only technically.
16:42 <@Dagmar> Also, calling it that makes one an _asshole_
16:42 <@Dagmar> TO put it another way, having dark brown hair is _normal_
16:42 <@Dagmar> Having red hair is also technically "abnormal", but it doesn't mean a fucking thing
16:42 < RangerZ2> normal != being > 50%
16:42 <@Dagmar> Not one goddamn thing
16:42 < RangerZ2> thats 'average'
16:43 < RangerZ2> being gay and being straight are both normal
16:43 < RangerZ2> being a fucking BRONY is abnormal
16:43 < RangerZ2> lol
16:43 <@Dagmar> Wrong.
16:43 <@Dagmar> "the usual, average, or typical state or condition"
16:43 < aestetix_> haha
16:43 <@Dagmar> That's the meaning of the word "normal"
16:43 <@Dagmar> Normal is a "typical" state.
16:43 < RangerZ2> thats only 'one' definition of 'normal'
16:44 <@Dagmar> Not necessarily a simple majority case
16:44 < RangerZ2> another is [conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.]
16:44 < RangerZ2> and [a line at right angles to a given line or surface.]
16:44 < RangerZ2> lol
16:44 <@Dagmar> ...but it's a one-way definition which does NOT reflect any sort of binary relationship with "abnormal"
16:44 <@Dagmar> Things which aren't normal aren't automatically "abnormal" because "abnormal" is meaningless in that context.
16:45 <@Dagmar> We don't attach every possible adjective and adverb to things in everyday speech because it would be incredibly tedious.
16:45 <@Dagmar> We only attach adjectives to things which indicate aspects of them which are _worth of our attention_
16:45 < RangerZ2> ok corydon
16:45 <@Dagmar> It's not a hard, round, black, fingerholed bowling ball
16:45 < RangerZ2> b/c thats where this is going
16:45 <@Dagmar> It's just a goddamn bowling ball
16:46 <@Dagmar> But this is the game they're playing
16:46 <@Dagmar> They _deliberately_ violate this standard of simplicity in speech to _create_ the problem they're railing against.
16:47 <@Dagmar> This is why even trying to say that a game with one protagonist is sexist or misogynist or any of that shit is _insane_
16:47 <@Dagmar> By that same standard, _people_ are automatically sexist
16:47 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: you should make a game
16:47 <@Dagmar> At least the ones who aren't into special snowflake fucking pronouns on Twitter are
16:47 < RangerZ2> that checkboxes all their complaints
16:47 < RangerZ2> lol
16:47 <@Dagmar> No.
16:47 <@Dagmar> There is no reasoning with these people.
16:47 < RangerZ2> whats the female's name "Damsel"
16:47 <@Dagmar> We should just toss them into scorpion pits
17:06 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: whats the name of the urban fantasy series with the protagonist who is the coder?
17:06 < RangerZ2> its a series
17:06 < RangerZ2> I'm drawing a massive blank, I know we've talked about it before
17:15 <@Dagmar> You will have to be more descriptive than "urban fantasy"
17:15 <@Dagmar> EVen one adjective will do
17:15 <@Dagmar> Oh and while I was in the shower I pinned down the _logical fallacy_ these asshats are engaging in
17:16 <@Dagmar> ...because to be sure, it reasonable and correct to say that John, a heterosexual male, is "normal" based on that attribute
17:16 <@Dagmar> ...but there are no sane or reasonable obversions from this.
17:16 <@Dagmar> It can not be said that if john is homosexual that john is "abnormal".
17:17 <@Dagmar> Any and all arguments which try to use these two statements as logical premises will always be invalid
17:18 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Going through my head about what books I've talked to you about, I'm going to hazard a guess you mean The Laundry Files, from Charles Stross
17:18 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stross#The_Laundry_Files
17:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Charles Stross - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
17:18 <@Dagmar> Lovecraft meets Gibson
17:26 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: its a series which another book came out and you were surprised that you weren't aware of it, you said the main character was a programmer (or a grad student) and that I should 'be all over it'
17:27 < RangerZ2> yep thats it
17:39 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0dybpH2PNU .....
17:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: Is Martha Stewart About to Take Over 3D Printing? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:04 <@Bahhumbug> Shadow404: I meant to thank you yesterday and in my haste to get some other things done in slipped my mind.  I redeemed one of those Insurgency gift vouchers.  Thank you.
18:11 < RangerZ2> Shadow404: same
18:11 < RangerZ2> for reminding me about the bundle too
18:11 < RangerZ2> and then... me 'making an account' with humble bundle...
18:11 <@Shadow404> np, thx to you i got the freegae
18:11 < RangerZ2> and merging all my purchases
18:12 < RangerZ2> ...and the like 15 games I hadn't redeemed codes...
18:12 < RangerZ2> but 12 of them are on origin.... so I can be forgiven
18:12 < RangerZ2> lol
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18:13 <@Shadow404> i hate you guys
18:13 <@Shadow404> i just had to alt tab to look at the incoming
18:14 <@Shadow404> and now the game window messed up
18:14 < RangerZ2> god i hate that
18:14 < RangerZ2> Shadow
18:14 < RangerZ2> Shadow404:
18:14 < RangerZ2> -_-
18:15 <@Shadow404> yeah
18:15 < RangerZ2> anyone want solar 2?
18:15 < RangerZ2> i got a free copy from a bundle when I already had it
18:15 <@Shadow404> knowing this channels maturity, i left it full screened on sec
18:15 <@Shadow404> ill take it
18:16 <@Shadow404> pm me the link
18:16 <@Shadow404> thx
18:16 < RangerZ2> np
18:22 < RangerZ> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/video/2014/nov/18/ku-klux-klan-twitter-hacked-hacktivists-anonymous-video
18:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Hacktivists Anonymous hack Ku Klux Klan Twitter - video | Technology | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com)
18:22 < RangerZ> haha
18:22 < RangerZ> Anonymous +1
18:24 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed.  I'm not a big fan of anonymous for the most part but it's events such as this that make me sit back and chuckle.
18:25 < RangerZ> the KKK warned the hackers: “You’ll be strung up next to the chimps. On display for the whole world to see. The Klan is to be feared, not threatened. Turn away or face the consequences.”
18:25 < RangerZ> oh yes... "that'll end well...."
18:26 < RangerZ> stubenville alone has proved their value
18:27 < RangerZ> god I can only imagine what an 'organized' assault (digitally) on every member of police force or something like that would look like
18:27 < RangerZ> imagine if they start shooting protesters again in Ferguson, but this time... with news agencies not being pussies about it...
18:28 < RangerZ> nvm... i'm going to go back to bed and nap... and dream of such a world...
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18:41 < RangerZ> hahahahaha.......
18:42 < RangerZ> Glenn Beck got "electro stimulation" .... to help cure his 'condition'...
18:42 < RangerZ> Shadow404: did you help 'cure' Glenn Beck ?
18:43 < RangerZ> or perhaps it was down in SanFran at the Armory
18:45 <@Bahhumbug> The armory frowns on 220 VDC
18:47 < RangerZ> nah... as long as its only 0.1 amp
18:47 < RangerZ> its fine
18:47 < RangerZ> lol
18:48 <@Bahhumbug> I'm thinking more like 5 amps, placed so as not to cross the heart.
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20:38 <@wilpig> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994155
20:38 <@wilpig> this here doesn't look bad
20:39 <@brimstone> huh, 5 in 3?
20:42 <@wilpig> yup
20:42 <@wilpig> was looking at some others and they didn't have backplanes.  who the fuck makes a hotswap cage without a damned backplane?!
20:43 <@brimstone> rosewil i bet
20:44 <@wilpig> one of them was coolermaster like this one
20:45 <@wilpig> I was out earlier and was amazed at the mountain of 60" tvs that walmart had
20:45 <@wilpig> they're clearly banking on that being a big item this year
20:45 <@brimstone> we have two 60"s at work
20:45 <@brimstone> and two 80"s
20:46 <@brimstone> they're f'n huge
20:46 <@brimstone> fkkn
20:46 <@wilpig> we tried to convince management that we needed two 80s 
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20:53 <@wilpig> Dagmar, RangerZ1: either of you touch gnomoria recently?  Seems like he cut back on the beetle spawn rates
20:54 <@wilpig> I'm down to -32 now and haven't seen a single one
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21:48 <@Dagmar> He did
21:48 <@Dagmar> I read the changelogs
21:48 <@Dagmar> There was a problem with one spawning in a tiny cavern, and then breeding into infinity
21:48 <@Dagmar> ...which meant the moment you breached that cavern, your gnomes would get gangbanged, hard.
21:50 <@wilpig> I had hit that before
21:51 <@wilpig> that's why I altered how I was playing now.  heh.  when I descend to a new level I grid it off and then build floor over everything and remove all ramps
21:52 <@wilpig> after i've got all the ore / coal / gems, I put up a small room around the stairs blocking off the rest of the floor
21:54 <@Dagmar> I can't really play without starting a new world.
21:54 <@Dagmar> Mo'fuckin DIRT golems
21:54 <@Dagmar> ...and OCD gnomes.
21:54 < aestetix_> Ok who here remembers without searching who Mark Foley is?
21:55 <@Dagmar> Dick copo.
21:55 <@Dagmar> Also, asshole racist cop.
21:55 < aestetix_> huh?
21:55 < aestetix_> Nope!
21:55 <@Bahhumbug> We named a box at ripco.com after Foley.  Another for Gail and a third for Golden.
21:56 <@Dagmar> Oh different one then?  How about Chair of the House of Senatorial Wide Stances
21:56 < aestetix_> I can give you a hint: "why doesn't mark foley like bookmarks? he prefers to bend over the page"
21:56 <@Bahhumbug> Assuming this is the same dipshit.
21:57 <@Bahhumbug> Meh, different dipshit - that Foley was Tim Foley.
21:57 <@Bahhumbug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sundevil
21:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: Operation Sundevil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
21:57 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that
21:57 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: another blatant abuse of power
21:58 <@Dagmar> Vindictive prosecution
21:59 <@Bahhumbug> Bruce (Doc Ripco) got screwed over bigtime with Sundevil.
21:59 <@Dagmar> So did someone from Steve Jackson Games.
21:59 <@Bahhumbug> A _lot_ of shit went down around that time, Atlanta e911/Steve Jacksom Games, a bunch of pubnix cracks, etc.
22:00 <@Dagmar> The stuff with SJG was _completely_ unacceptable.
22:00 <@Bahhumbug> No argument.
22:00 <@Bahhumbug> I'm also convinced that the ShadowHawk 1 trial was all because of Ripco.
22:00 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: yep
22:02 <@Bahhumbug> http://phrack.org/issues/24/12.html is the ShadowHawk incident I am referring to.
22:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: .:: Phrack Magazine ::. (at phrack.org)
22:03 <@Bahhumbug> He's one of my oldest friends.
22:04 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: I know about Sundevil vicariously. What an awful time.
22:04 <@Bahhumbug> Bruce was an absolute wreck over it.
22:05 <@Dagmar> I can completely understand considering the feds were total knobgobblers and took _all_ their shit
22:05 < aestetix_> I mean it's one of the reasons they started DefCon.
22:06 < aestetix_> And CFP.
22:06 <@Bahhumbug> Ripco is located across the street from the Belmont/Western cop shop (district 19/division 3/area 6) and a lot of Bruce business (he was into cable box reprogramming) was cops.  Quite a few of them were on-scene providing logistics and such when the feds rolled his shop over.
22:06 < aestetix_> Although the goal ("to make sure this never happens again") sadly didn't work.
22:07 <@Bahhumbug> Luckily _they_ grabbed his weapons before the feds did otherwise they would have nailed him on federal firearms charges as well.
22:07 <@Bahhumbug> The feds wanted to prosecute him on the cable boxes but they couldn't.  Due to the old loophope in the regulations what he was doing was legal.
22:08 <@Bahhumbug> err, loophole
22:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah I remember having a heated argument with a nitwit some years later who was claiming he'd deserved it because "he had buyers" for the Unix code he'd stolen
22:08 <@Dagmar> I was like, "No, motherfucker, he was a _phreaker_ kid."
22:08 <@Bahhumbug> Bruce?
22:09 <@Bahhumbug> Shit, Bruce was innocent of all that crap.
22:09 <@Bahhumbug> All he did was provide an Apple ][e-based BBS.
22:09 <@Bahhumbug> He didn't _do_ anything.
22:09 <@Bahhumbug> Lots of people ON ripco did things...
22:09 <@Bahhumbug> Hell, TBBoM was written by one of those people.
22:10 <@Dagmar> Zinn
22:10 <@Bahhumbug> I _miss_ those days.
22:10 <@Bahhumbug> The Herb thing is amusing on so many levels.
22:10 <@Bahhumbug> He fucked up.
22:10 < aestetix_> The Herb thing?
22:10 <@Bahhumbug> He KNEW he had a DNR on his line.
22:10 <@Bahhumbug> Shadowhawk == Herb Zinn
22:10 < aestetix_> ahh
22:11 <@Bahhumbug> We would get baked and he would hop on his atari and start wardialing and then just start fucking around with stuff.
22:11 <@Bahhumbug> I had access to a lot of the same systems he did, but I never bothered with most of 'em.
22:11 <@Bahhumbug> BILMOS, however... that was fun :)
22:12 <@Bahhumbug> He was stoned and he made mistakes and that's what got him sent to South Dakota for 18 months or however long the sentence was.
22:15 <@Bahhumbug> Amusingly enough, Herb's on this network right now.
22:51 < RangerZ> reading books about that time/etc is like reading spy novels
22:51 < RangerZ> its amusing
22:51 <@Bahhumbug> Times were greatly different back then.
22:53 < RangerZ> NYT had some ethics left?
22:53 < RangerZ> thank god they got rid of that
22:53 < RangerZ> hehe
22:54 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7okPfPn64E *cough*well*duh*cough*
22:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Nintendo Takes Action Against 3DS Game With Homebrew Exploit | Info - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:58 < RangerZ> just removes the game digital store in japan
23:11 < RangerZ> Cloud Imperium Games (Chris Robert's Game Company) has jumped the fucking shark
23:12 < RangerZ> https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14314-Star-Citizen-Anniversary-Sale 2,500$ (and no thats not a typo) virtual space ships for purchase in the game
23:12 <@GateKeeper> Title: Star Citizen Anniversary Sale - Roberts Space Industries (at robertsspaceindustries.com)
23:37 < RangerZ> wilpig: http://mangadoom.co/I-got-stuck-in-real-life-so-it-s-okay-to-get-addicted-to-an-MMO-right/
23:37 < RangerZ> you need to go back to WoW, lol
23:50 < aestetix_> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/the-american-middle-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html
23:50 < aestetix_> thanks GOP
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