--- Log opened Fri Nov 21 00:00:38 2014 00:19 <@benthemeek> Dowd 00:19 <@benthemeek> wrong window :P 00:21 -!- benthemeek [~benthemee@c-98-211-6-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: restart] 00:21 -!- benthemeek [~benthemee@c-98-211-6-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o benthemeek] by ChanServ 01:07 < RangerZ> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/11/21/0016226/greenwald-advises-market-based-solution-to-mass-surveillance so greenwald does great work when it comes to uncovering dirty deads (done not so cheap) 01:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: Greenwald Advises Market-Based Solution To Mass Surveillance - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org) 01:07 < RangerZ> but saying we should PRIVATIZE NSA spying... fuck no 01:11 <@Dagmar> Great. Let's call the program 'Samaritan' while we're at it. 01:13 < RangerZ> "The only thing worse than a lawyer is a law student, they think they can use the courts for anything." 01:13 < RangerZ> *cough*amber*cough* 01:13 < RangerZ> from http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/11/20/2325227/harvard-students-move-fossil-fuel-stock-fight-to-court 01:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Harvard Students Move Fossil Fuel Stock Fight To Court - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org) 01:55 < aestetix_> privatizing the NSA is a horrible idea 01:56 < aestetix_> RangerZ: I don't care who the women are or whatever.... if we get a list of 17 jane does that a judge considers valid, then I'll listen to the judge 01:57 < aestetix_> they don't have to come public or anything. If a judge hears them and thinks they have a valid complaint, I am 100% in favor of doing what the judge says 01:58 < RangerZ> apparently a DA in 2004 thought the he was guilty as fucking sin, but there wasn't enough evidence , b/c all the ones he found were past statute of limitations, and no physical proof from the girl with whom the 2004 complaint came from 01:58 < RangerZ> 2006* maybe, one of those two years 01:59 < RangerZ> but yes, I agree, perhaps the laywers for both sides and the defenedant get to know, but its kept secret otherwise 01:59 < aestetix_> Isn't the burden on the women to know the law? And to come forward before things expire? 01:59 < RangerZ> of course they are 01:59 < aestetix_> There are ways to come forward without having your identity known 01:59 < RangerZ> b/c sexual assualt of women in the 60s and 70s was #1 social priority of everyone in the UA 01:59 < RangerZ> USA* 02:00 < aestetix_> you can still file a police report 02:00 < RangerZ> even some who came forward to their managers, etc.... were told to be quiet , etc 02:00 < RangerZ> aestetix_: do you think Thriller Michael Jackson would have even gotten a citation if he DROP KICKED a baby ? 02:00 < RangerZ> no 02:01 < aestetix_> what I'm getting at 02:01 < RangerZ> ohh i get it 02:01 < aestetix_> is that they would have a lot more credibility if they said "this happened in the 60s, nobody listened, but I did file a police report about it" 02:01 < RangerZ> but you still have to realize the stigma of women who are raped 02:01 < RangerZ> even now 02:01 < RangerZ> like against-male rape, its almost never reported 02:02 < RangerZ> personally I think we should go back to saying "victim" instead of "survivor" 02:02 < aestetix_> well 02:02 < aestetix_> they mean different things 02:02 < RangerZ> b/c its conotative definition is that the assualted person did nothing at fault 02:03 < aestetix_> survivor means someone who has had some sort of treatment 02:03 < aestetix_> IE therapy, seen a doctor, etc 02:03 < RangerZ> no 02:03 < RangerZ> thats 1 def. 02:03 < RangerZ> the one they mean is "someone who survived a tragic event" 02:03 < RangerZ> etc 02:03 < RangerZ> thats an aside of semantics 02:03 < aestetix_> uh 02:04 < RangerZ> "a person who survives, especially a person remaining alive after an event in which others have died." 02:04 < aestetix_> so if you have cancer, even if you are alive and living with it, you're a cancer survivor? 02:04 < RangerZ> yes 02:04 < aestetix_> that's illogical 02:04 < RangerZ> no 02:05 < RangerZ> if its a _terminal_ cancer 02:05 < RangerZ> and you are alive 02:05 < RangerZ> you're a survivor (for as long as you are alive) 02:05 < aestetix_> how about you're a sufferer 02:05 < aestetix_> because OMG that is stupid 02:05 < RangerZ> but generally it means a person who has "beat" cancer 02:05 < aestetix_> survivor to me implies after the fact 02:05 < RangerZ> not someone with it 02:05 < aestetix_> right 02:06 < RangerZ> i mean... if the cancer is 'terminal' but NOT for you... then perhaps 'survivor' would count too 02:06 < RangerZ> and thats what I thought you meant 02:07 < aestetix_> ok.... if you have just been raped, you still have PTSD and are suffering from it 02:07 < aestetix_> a therapist can help you develop coping skills 02:07 < aestetix_> at which point you can say the experience is behind you 02:07 < RangerZ> perhaps? 02:07 < aestetix_> then you are a survivor 02:07 < RangerZ> but thats not the point 02:07 < RangerZ> 'surivor' means they weren't fucking killed during the rape 02:07 < RangerZ> like a LOT of women are 02:08 < RangerZ> means nothing about their mental state afterwards 02:08 < aestetix_> ..... 02:08 < aestetix_> ok, I understand it differently 02:08 < aestetix_> but the bottom line is I agree with you 02:08 < aestetix_> calling someone who has lived past a rape but hasn't gotten treatment is absolutely a victim 02:08 < RangerZ> no 02:08 < RangerZ> well... 02:09 < RangerZ> i make no condition about their 'after-treatment' 02:09 < RangerZ> if you are a victim of fraud, you are a victim ... even after you get your money back 02:09 < aestetix_> no, you were a victim 02:09 < aestetix_> past tense 02:10 < RangerZ> "these are his victims" : perfect past present... or w/e the fuck it is called 02:10 < RangerZ> where you can be both past and present, but refereing to 'current'' 02:11 < aestetix_> you could also say that about someone he killed 02:11 < RangerZ> true 02:11 < RangerZ> your definition of 'victim' being 'present tense' is too narrow 02:11 < RangerZ> past* 02:11 < RangerZ> god nvm present* 02:12 * RangerZ needs to get to sleep 02:12 < RangerZ> but honestly, I think your view on the tenses is limited 02:14 < RangerZ> http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/simplepresent.html 02:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: ENGLISH PAGE - Simple Present (at www.englishpage.com) 02:14 < RangerZ> Use 2 02:14 < RangerZ> starting at some point in the past continuing forward 02:15 < RangerZ> which... would be a segment of a 'step' function 02:16 < RangerZ> http://corporate.walmart.com/policies/our-online-price-match-policy 02:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: Our Online Price Match Policy (at corporate.walmart.com) 02:17 < RangerZ> also.... walmart stopped the 50$ PS4 sales 02:17 < RangerZ> hehehe 02:17 < aestetix_> http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/20/kmart-employee-come-work-thanksgiving-will-automatically-fired/ 02:17 < RangerZ> changed their price-match policy to not match amazon private sellers 02:17 < RangerZ> he he he 02:19 < RangerZ> aestetix_: fuck that nonsense 02:19 < RangerZ> but... we'll probably be going out to eat this thanksgiving b/c we'll be in the middle of my mom's move... 02:19 < RangerZ> so I'll be glad the resturant will be staffed... 02:29 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:38 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:00 < aestetix_> dumb question 04:00 < aestetix_> can I replace a SATA drive with an SSD? 04:00 < aestetix_> do they use the same connector? 04:01 < aestetix_> ok looks like yes 04:45 <@Dagmar> If it is a SATA SSD, then yes 04:47 < aestetix_> http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/edward-snowden-nsa-reform-113073.html 04:47 < aestetix_> I wonder why Greenwald is surprised that Congress blocked the NSA reform bill. 04:47 < aestetix_> They are blocking everything except stuff that makes Obama look bad. 07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:36 <@Dolemite> Oops, time to head over for my physical 08:38 <@Dolemite> She had a bit of a hard time finding a vein. Had to poke me twice. 08:38 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I just have one question. Since when are corgis a ballistic weapon? 08:39 <@wilpig> Dagmar: ever since that weird dude got a youtube channel dedicated to slingshots 08:42 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm just getting caught up on Team RWBY 08:42 <@Dagmar> Professor-dude signaled the corgi, and then smacked him downfield like a croquet ball 08:43 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: i still think the rock could of busted the window with his oncoming speed 08:43 <@Shadow404> your thoughts? 08:44 <@Shadow404> its not exactly bullet proof glass 08:44 <@Dagmar> Rock? What? 08:47 <@Dagmar> I'm jsut starting s02e12 so that might be a spoiler too vague for me to understand 08:47 <@Dagmar> These fight scenes are *exactly* what I want out of anime 08:47 <@Dagmar> lol 08:48 <@wilpig> guess I need to get a shower and head to the dc for some super smash bros 08:48 <@wilpig> got my 3ds all charged up and ready to go 08:48 <@Shadow404> the russian police chase video Catonic posted 08:49 <@Shadow404> laughing boy says it wouldnt work 08:55 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.142] has joined #se2600 08:55 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.142] has quit [Changing host] 08:55 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 08:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 08:56 <@Dagmar> Did he post it here? 08:56 <@Shadow404> wilpig: did u restart the server yesterday? 08:56 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: fb, u commrnted 08:56 <@Shadow404> commented 08:57 <@wilpig> Shadow404: no 08:57 <@wilpig> why? 08:58 <@wilpig> 08:58:11 up 44 days, 11:34, 6 users, load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.04 08:58 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I did indulge and watch SouthPark last night 08:59 <@Dolemite> I did like the premise of roosters playing Magic the Gathering 08:59 <@wilpig> cock magic 08:59 <@Dolemite> And, of course, the magic show 08:59 <@wilpig> I gotta say, this season they really have done an excellent job on the stories 09:00 <@Dagmar> Ah 09:01 <@Dagmar> Shadow404: The only thing I can surmise is that they were throwing ceramic chips at it in hopes of spiderwebbing the front windshield so the driver couldn't see 09:01 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, they'd be lucky to just put a crack in the windshield 09:05 <@Shadow404> ceramic chips? 09:05 <@Shadow404> that was a gravel path 09:06 <@Shadow404> better than doing nothing i think after running out of bullets 09:11 <@CRasH180> I am tired. Think I will take a nap after just starting work 09:14 <@shapr> WAKE UP 09:14 <@shapr> I'm tired too 09:15 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fywlhgvjptwnprnk] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:17 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aepznyeobvxzvlhy] has joined #se2600 09:18 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@user-0c99bgh.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #se2600 09:18 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@162.218.105.210] has joined #se2600 09:19 <@Dagmar> So... 09:19 <@Dagmar> TO say that Mexico is a little upset today would be a massive understatement 09:20 <@Dagmar> This is our southern neighbor, undergoing fairly epic civil unrest 09:20 <@Dagmar> Nothin' really on CNN 09:20 < oddball> Yep. been that way for a while now. 09:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 09:20 <@Dagmar> I guess we wouldn't want to show people how to properly address political corruption, now would we 09:21 <@oddball> There have been towns where the locals have straight up revolted and thrown the local police and mayor in jail. 09:21 <@Dolemite> Man, I just love this video of grandmas smoking weed for the first time and playing Cards Against Humanity 09:21 <@oddball> ...at the end of whateer weapons they could scrounge up. Mostly shotguns and rifles that were probably illegal. 09:21 <@Dagmar> It's _hilarious_ 09:22 <@Dagmar> ...but i don't think it was gramma #2's first time. 09:22 <@Dagmar> I'm just sayin'. 09:22 <@oddball> Oh, question for the hive mind. Is there a new hotness for FOSS image editing, or is it still GIMP? 09:25 <@CRasH180> shapr: That did not wake me up. Actually, I think it put me to sleep 09:26 <@shapr> CRasH180: http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/espns-mike-golic-keeps-promise-to-pose-naked-like-kim-kardashian 09:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: ESPNs Mike Golic keeps promise to pose naked like Kim Kardashian | For The Win (at ftw.usatoday.com) 09:27 <@shapr> sure it'll remove sanity points, but you'll be so much more awake! 09:28 <@shapr> I think I killed CRasH180 09:29 <@shapr> also, kim has an amazingly large butt, I really had no idea 09:31 <@opticron> oddball, still gimp afaik 09:32 <@oddball> Thanks. I was thinking that there was something more user friendly, but I guess not. 09:33 <@oddball> Since it's something I tend to use once every couple years, it always takes me a little bit to get back up to speed. 09:33 <@opticron> yeah, there's a learning cliff there 09:33 <@opticron> sometimes you fall back off the cliff 09:34 <@oddball> yep 09:35 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 09:38 <@CRasH180> hahaha 09:38 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:38 <@CRasH180> kiddo called. Had to get him out of bed to take to Momma 09:39 <@CRasH180> shapr: To quote my Son's favorite show, Bubble Guppies, "That's silly!" 09:41 <@CRasH180> oddball if you are used to Photoshop, you could try to make Gimp more like Photoshop: http://lifehacker.com/how-to-make-the-gimp-work-more-like-photoshop-1551318983 09:42 <@oddball> thanks 09:43 <@CRasH180> no problem 09:43 < spaceB0x> CRasH180: if I have to hear the Bubble Guppies theme more than twice a day I get depressed 09:43 < spaceB0x> my son likes that show too 09:43 <@CRasH180> Usually about 4 times in my house 09:44 < spaceB0x> oh man, my condolences 09:44 <@CRasH180> I don't mind it so much. It is a good show 09:44 < spaceB0x> It's just the song that gets in my head for days 09:44 <@CRasH180> I ask him, "Does that look right to you?" He started saying "No" about 3 months ago when asked that question with a big brin on his face 09:45 <@CRasH180> s/brin/grin 09:45 < spaceB0x> nice 09:46 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has joined #se2600 09:47 <@CRasH180> I usually do just like the show and ask him two incorrect items and then show him the correct one and say, "This one" 09:47 <@CRasH180> Keep it consistant for him 09:55 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 09:55 < Synx|hm> Yo 09:55 < Synx|hm> anyone have a consumer reports account they wouldn't mind lending out for a few min 09:55 < Synx|hm> doing convertable car seat research 10:04 <@CRasH180> You might check http://www.consumersearch.com/search/reviews/convertable%20car%20seat for help with that if you cannot find a consumer reports log in 10:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Search Results for "convertable car seat" | ConsumerSearch.com (at www.consumersearch.com) 10:06 <@CRasH180> Synx|hm ^ 10:06 < Synx|hm> thanks! 10:06 <@CRasH180> no problem 10:07 < Synx|hm> ugh im so torn... stick with firefox and noscript or switch to chrome for google inbox and FIDO U2F support 10:08 <@CRasH180> I know what you mean. I have gotten used to using Chrome on my phone instead of Firefox. But, I use Firefox for so long and like it much better on the computer. 10:08 < Synx|hm> ya im going to ditch firefox beta on the android phone it crashes at least 4-5 times a day 10:08 <@CRasH180> Oh, I never had that problem 10:09 < Synx|hm> to be fair it is clearly labled beta hja 10:09 <@CRasH180> Well, everything from google is labeled Beta for YEARS 10:09 < Synx|hm> ha 10:09 < Synx|hm> true 10:09 <@CRasH180> for whatever that is worth. 10:10 <@CRasH180> I think it is a statement of reliability. Well, we told you it was beta 10:10 < Synx|hm> ya, absolutly the case 10:10 < Synx|hm> that and the we reserve the right to turn this off at any time because you know, its beta/product trial 10:11 <@CRasH180> Yep, we will integrate that one feature into one of which product we deem is not longer necessary. Even if you found it useful being a separate stand alone product 10:11 < Synx|hm> ha 10:11 < Synx|hm> you using inbox? 10:12 < Synx|hm> i think i like it but its quite a change 10:12 <@CRasH180> I am 10:12 <@CRasH180> It is a change, but I do like it. However, need to set up my notifications 10:12 <@CRasH180> Ever since I switched to it, no notifications on my phone any longer 10:13 <@CRasH180> My phone had no new e-mail notifications for two days. I was thinking that it is eerily quiet. Then, Find out I have 120 messages in separated groups waiting for me 10:13 < Synx|hm> ha 10:14 < Synx|hm> hangouts is doing something similar to me with txts 10:14 < Synx|hm> think its the sprint google voice + hangouts combo 10:15 <@CRasH180> Yeah, not so sure I like that yet 10:22 <@CRasH180> bbiab, need to restart for updated driver install. fun 10:23 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:23 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:31 -!- klixa12 [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:32 <@benthemeek> oddball: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_9KJUhBP8CBdGtTODZJNk0tYjg/view?usp=sharing 10:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: phreaknic19_black.png - Google Drive (at drive.google.com) 10:32 <@benthemeek> playing around with art ideas 10:32 <@benthemeek> Made it with gimp yesterday on my lunch break 10:33 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: You do realize that you left the door completely wide open for this next statement... 10:33 <@Dolemite> PhreakNIC 19 - Still on Life Support 10:33 <@benthemeek> It is actually going ontop of an occiloscope background 10:34 <@benthemeek> I havent gottent that far yet 10:35 <@benthemeek> I will throw is some Ohms and Voltage symbols to further make the point 10:35 <@Dolemite> You should make a shirt with that on the front in the middle, and have probe connections where the nipples are 10:35 <@benthemeek> lol 10:36 <@benthemeek> I hadn't thought of that 10:38 <@benthemeek> What would really be cool is actually drawing th elogo on a real occilioscope 10:39 <@benthemeek> Some of the demos on them are pretty incredible 10:42 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: ++ 10:43 <@wilpig> PhreakNIC19 - Not quite dead yet 10:43 <@wilpig> you can put a subtitle under that "yes you are" 10:43 < scoob> have the shirt be missing one sleeve 10:43 <@benthemeek> PhreakNIC 19 - signal in the noise ;) 10:43 < scoob> (not a comment on the status of PhreakNIC, just an opportune joke yet) 10:44 <@Shadow404> Phreaknic 19 - White noise at it's finest 10:46 <@Bahhumbug> Racist. 10:46 <@benthemeek> Bahhumbug: +1 10:46 <@benthemeek> :P 10:46 <@Shadow404> yep 10:46 <@Dolemite> C'mon you can do better than that. Make it both sexist and racist. 10:47 <@Shadow404> give me a sec Dolemite 10:48 <@Shadow404> gah, i have no creativity this morning 10:48 <@Shadow404> someone elsr give it a shot 10:50 <@Dickie> Black women are objects 10:50 <@Dickie> There. 10:50 <@Shadow404> .... 10:50 <@Dickie> Double-hitter 10:50 <@Dickie> Great. Now I feel guilty. 10:51 <@Dickie> Worst day of my life. 10:51 <@Shadow404> u should 10:51 <@opticron> pffft, you already felt guilty 10:51 <@Dickie> guilty was asking for it 10:51 <@Dolemite> Dickie: Worse than the day you first found this channel? 10:51 <@Shadow404> ur nick is sexist to start with 10:51 <@Dickie> My name is sexist 10:51 <@Dickie> Why are only men named Richard? 10:52 <@Dickie> Hmm? HMM? 10:52 <@Dickie> #patriarchy 10:53 <@Bahhumbug> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur 10:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 10:53 <@Bahhumbug> Just sayin' 10:57 <@Dolemite> Hrmm. Today may be a bbq coma day, now that I've already had my blood drawn for my physical. heh. 10:57 <@Dolemite> It feels like one of those "don't come back to work after lunch" days 10:57 < Synx|hm> i cant stand micromanaging PMs 10:57 < scoob> s/micromanaging//g 10:57 < scoob> (I kid) 10:58 < Synx|hm> my god take a step back just because you dont understand the technical details doesn't mean we have to spend 2 fucking hours teaching you 10:58 < Synx|hm> ha ya 10:58 < Synx|hm> im on a call thats going on 2 hours that should have been 15 fucking min 10:59 <@wilpig> ooo what's this? https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6mi2acyypri8zc/2014-11-21%2010.52.37.jpg?dl=0 11:01 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@adsl-98-66-37-163.mem.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 11:08 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has joined #se2600 11:08 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has quit [Changing host] 11:08 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 11:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] 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RangerZ> my sonyentertainmentnetwork.com account won't accept my PlayStation VISA as a valid Credit Card # 14:32 < RangerZ> its YOUR FUCKING CARD ASSHOLES 14:32 -!- klixak is now known as Guest98586 14:33 -!- Guest98586 [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-frfmjndutbkkhnef] has quit [Client Quit] 14:34 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-akassckggxzwmxoq] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-akassckggxzwmxoq] has quit [Changing host] 14:34 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 14:34 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Changing host] 14:34 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-akassckggxzwmxoq] has joined #se2600 14:34 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by leguin.freenode.net 14:35 * shapr rains on klixa-cloud 14:38 <@klixa-cloud> that's backwards 14:39 <@shapr> oh right, nm then 14:49 < RangerZ> jesus christ... 14:49 < RangerZ> apparently capitol one's system puts the 'apartment' line first in address 14:49 < RangerZ> so you have to put the apt # on line 1 and the address on line 2 otherwise it will reject the card's address as being wrong 14:53 < aestetix_> penis 14:55 <@shapr> vaina 14:55 <@shapr> I wish 14:55 <@benthemeek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2awbKQ2DLRE COOL 14:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pyro Board: 2D Rubens Tube! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:58 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00 < RangerZ> so long as Daft Punk doesn't see this... we're all safe 15:01 < RangerZ> also... done in doors... 15:03 < RangerZ> if anyone has a ps3 a ps4 or vita, and doesn't have playstation plus, this month would be a good month to join, some really good games are free this month (all indie ones with lots of replayability... and ..actually GOOD indie games, lol) 15:10 <@shapr> My ps3 runs linux 15:18 <@Dagmar> So, it doesn't play video games anymore then I take it 15:20 <@shapr> not in a long time 15:20 <@shapr> I use it to install Yellow Dog Linux on IDE hard drives for my QS20 Cell blades 15:20 <@shapr> no seriously, that's not a joke 15:20 < RangerZ> a guy got out of prison in Cleveland today after 39 years... when he was exonerated yesterday 15:21 <@Dagmar> heheh 15:21 < RangerZ> longest in history of USA for someone spending time then being exonerated 15:21 <@Dagmar> It's still funny tho 15:22 < RangerZ> shapr: ps3 was a great cluster computer back when it came out 15:22 < RangerZ> them cutting out 'other os' is what lead to their hacking.... lol 15:23 <@shapr> truly 15:24 <@shapr> I still have a huge stack of QS20 cell blades that work 15:24 <@shapr> I do NOT have enough 220v power to actually run the damn bladecenter. 15:25 < RangerZ> lol 15:25 <@shapr> I think I'll set it up here at the shop 15:26 <@shapr> everytime I suggest that, members worry about the power bill 15:26 <@shapr> Seems to take about $50 a month just to idle 15:27 < RangerZ> get a kill-a-watt 15:27 < RangerZ> (do they have a 220v version?) 15:27 <@Dagmar> Or... something with more modern power efficienccy 15:28 < RangerZ> and I'm going to assume it doesn't use the 'edison' 3 prong 15:28 <@Dagmar> Hey cool the Chromecasts just got upgraded functionality 15:29 <@Dagmar> No more Random Pastoral IMages 15:46 < aestetix_> that was a fun phone interview 15:46 < aestetix_> Apparently the guy was used to talking to idiots 15:46 <@Mirage> oh yeah? how many times did you randomly blurt out viana or penis? 15:46 < aestetix_> he asked me questions and wanted very trivial answers, not a longform exposition about how systems work 15:47 < RangerZ> trivial for someone who knows something? 15:47 < RangerZ> or 'this is a mouse' 15:48 < aestetix_> like 15:48 < aestetix_> "you have a group of databases, what happens if the first database is saturated" 15:48 < aestetix_> the answer was "you move to the next database" 15:49 < aestetix_> my answer was "well the system will respond with a message saying it's oversaturated, at which point the load balancer does a round robin and connects a socket to the next db in the list" 15:49 < aestetix_> another question: "what happens if you have a bunch of databases all competing for the same port" 15:49 < aestetix_> one answer "you set the databases to use differnt ports" another was "change the database names" 15:50 <@Dagmar> I have a better answer for the first one 15:50 < RangerZ> you have the router port forward? 15:50 <@Dagmar> "You yell at the DBAs to mind that they're not sending redundant queries, then you go hunt down the guy running the load balancer and ask him to check that they are _actually_ balancing load like they should." 15:51 < aestetix_> Dagmar: fwiw my answer included something about DNS and the load balancer having a hash table on where the next system was 15:51 < aestetix_> hahaha 15:51 <@Dagmar> For the second one the answer should be "You yell at the DBAs to communicate with each other." 15:51 <@Dagmar> Yelling gets a surprising amount of things do~ne. 15:52 -!- dare2netsec [~Rusty@cpe-075-190-255-214.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 15:52 <@Dagmar> ...and by "yell" I mean "quietly threaten to call a Meeting." 15:53 < aestetix_> the thing is, this place has a ton of resources/funding 15:53 < aestetix_> I am used to having to make stuff work on a budget 15:53 < aestetix_> thus all the little bash hacks 15:53 <@Mirage> in that case the answer to both questions is "throw money at it" 15:53 < RangerZ> nah 15:54 < RangerZ> "throw undergrads & interns at it" 15:54 < RangerZ> ;) 15:54 <@Mirage> w/o pay 15:54 < aestetix_> also the guy had a thick indian accent 15:54 < RangerZ> nah... pay them 25k/yr 15:54 < RangerZ> that way they can afford to live too 15:55 <@Mirage> in CA? you'd have to have 4 roomates to afford a 1 BR efficiency. 15:55 < RangerZ> Mirage: I've lived off 25k for the last 3 years... lol 15:55 <@Mirage> In TN 15:55 < RangerZ> and live more comfortably than aestetix_ ;) 15:56 < RangerZ> but Grad Students are expected to not make much money 15:56 < aestetix_> isn't that because you earn a degree after all that? 15:56 < RangerZ> but Vandy actually pays its grad students enough to 'live' compared to most schools 15:57 < RangerZ> my friend (who has a 9 year old daughter) was only getting 9k a year stipend 15:57 < RangerZ> and thats the normal range for grad stipends 15:57 <@Dagmar> Vanderbilt forbids grad students to have second jobs tho 15:57 < RangerZ> yes/no 15:58 < RangerZ> you aren't allowed to have one outside your focus area 15:58 <@Dagmar> Yes, I know. Camwhoring doesn't count as a second job. 15:58 < RangerZ> but CS students are allowed to do independent contracting and such 15:59 < spaceB0x> camwhoring == "independent contracting" 15:59 < aestetix_> good god 15:59 < aestetix_> 9k a year? 15:59 < aestetix_> I think my health insurance costs more than that 15:59 < aestetix_> how can you live on only 9k? 16:00 < RangerZ> spaceB0x: you laugh, but my friend made 65k one year, promoting cam sites 16:00 < RangerZ> aestetix_: you don't 16:00 < RangerZ> thats the thing 16:00 < RangerZ> he had to quit giong to grad school b/c of it 16:00 < spaceB0x> I have no problem believing that 16:00 < RangerZ> and if you DO make it, you do the SF thing 16:01 < RangerZ> spaceB0x: she would get a % of sales she directed there, and would pretend to be the girl up until she swapped with the 'performer'/camera turned on, etc... 16:02 < spaceB0x> haha social engineering at it's best. not a bad gig really 16:02 < RangerZ> so all the collecting of info/etc she manually entered/etc... and then the performer just did her 'stuff' 16:02 < RangerZ> that model probably doesn't work anymore... with so many free cam sites, etc... 16:03 < RangerZ> or cheap 16:03 < RangerZ> or w/e 16:03 * RangerZ asks Dagmar 16:03 < RangerZ> lol 16:03 <@Dagmar> I have no idea 16:03 <@Dagmar> I was just not-stalking that one girl 16:03 <@Dagmar> ...an that came to an abrupt and slightly disturbing halt the third time I saw her online 16:03 < RangerZ> uhhh huhhh 16:03 < spaceB0x> heh. I bet there is still potential to make that kind of money at it somehow 16:03 <@Dagmar> She was blowing a garden gnome with a dildo on it 16:04 <@Dagmar> I don't even 16:04 < spaceB0x> ...and you were smitten with love? 16:04 < RangerZ> and he thought....that could be an ingress point... 16:04 <@Dagmar> I dunno what the hell fetish that's catering too 16:04 < RangerZ> 'performance art' location 16:04 <@Dagmar> That's just freaking weird 16:04 < spaceB0x> there's a market for everything i suppose 16:08 <@Shadow404> Catonic: ty 16:09 -!- dare2netsec [~Rusty@cpe-075-190-255-214.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [] 16:10 < RangerZ> http://consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/wellwhoops.jpg 16:10 < Synx|hm> fucking amazing 16:10 < RangerZ> hehe 16:10 < RangerZ> hanukkah ham 16:10 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: its not THAT funny... 16:10 < Synx|hm> just got a convertable child seat that is normall $279 for $125 at target 16:11 < RangerZ> nice 16:11 <@benthemeek> wilpig: Did you sponsor phreaknic 17? 16:11 < Synx|hm> ha my fucking amazing was regarding the child seat :) 16:11 < RangerZ> i hate how modern child seats are more dangerous than boosters for children over age 3 16:11 <@benthemeek> Anyone remember? 16:12 < RangerZ> but the law states you need them until like 7 or 80 lbs 16:12 <@Mirage> benthemeek: I believe he did, but I'm not sure. 16:12 < RangerZ> pretty sure he did 16:12 < RangerZ> and paid for pork roast himself 16:12 <@benthemeek> yeah I thought so. 16:13 <@benthemeek> We are working on the videos and I wanted to make sure I had the right sponsors 16:14 < RangerZ> benthemeek: didn't you get the memo? videos can't be processed until they are at least 3 years old 16:14 < RangerZ> lol 16:16 <@benthemeek> Brimstone has a friend who knows how to do it. Yah! 16:16 <@benthemeek> So after all this time it may actually happen *crosses fingers* 16:26 < RangerZ> still nothing beats what notacon did/does 16:27 < RangerZ> the guy has the videos done like 2 minutes after the talk ends and burned to dvd 16:28 < RangerZ> so the presenter gets one for free 16:28 < RangerZ> and then anyone else can buy one for .... i think 5$ 16:28 < RangerZ> and then a few months later... maybe just 1 month... they are posted online 16:29 <@benthemeek> rangerz: Irongeek has mastered the quick turn around too. He is using something called open braodcast manager 16:30 <@benthemeek> I still need to drop some money on a good capture card to grab the slides 16:31 <@benthemeek> the think we have has a huge loss converting from vga to component and so this year we just recorded them with a second cam 16:31 <@benthemeek> thing* 16:32 -!- Genphlux [~Genphlux@adsl-98-66-37-163.mem.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:34 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:43 < RangerZ> yeah, but he's a dick, and fucks with every video putting his spam on each one 16:43 < RangerZ> so ... not my choice.... if that wasn't apparent 17:00 <@Dagmar> We can do it without that 17:07 < aestetix_> https://twitter.com/lawnsea/status/535896285417861121 17:27 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-akassckggxzwmxoq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:37 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 17:38 <@wilpig> benthemeek: PN17 didn't have sponsors 17:39 <@wilpig> Codex labs sponsored the glasses, I sponsored the pig roast 17:42 <@klixa> why do talk shows with white trash people airing their dirty laundry have viewers? 17:42 <@klixa> why do white trash poeple like to display their trashyness? 17:42 <@klixa> these are the questions i ask when i turn on my tv and its on the wrong channel 17:42 <@wilpig> cause they are entertaining 17:42 * wilpig loves him some springer 17:43 <@klixa> it disgusts me 17:44 <@klixa> i hate that those people exist... hitler shoudl have killed them 17:45 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:47 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has joined #se2600 17:52 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: does Centos have any equivalent to PPAs? 17:52 -!- centbot [~centbot@centos/bot/centbot] has joined #se2600 17:52 <@Bahhumbug> centbot, repos 17:52 < centbot> Additional packages are often in 3rd party repos. Information on additional CentOS repos is available at http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories Pay attention to the reference on yum-priorities. 17:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: AdditionalResources/Repositories - CentOS Wiki (at wiki.centos.org) 17:52 <@Bahhumbug> centbot, part 17:52 -!- centbot [~centbot@centos/bot/centbot] has left #se2600 ["Bahhumbug"] 17:54 <@Bahhumbug> There is a new thing coming down the pike from Fedorka that's actually closer in concept to PPAs - COPRs. People are building el5/6/7 packages as COPR builds; each build is a repo unto itself, including yum metadata. 17:54 <@Bahhumbug> But at this time the repos on that page I linked above are where the action really is. 17:54 <@Bahhumbug> What specifically are you looking for? 17:56 < aestetix_> vsftpd 3 17:56 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMv3mpLk8Cs poor wilpig now having to go to toys'r'us 17:56 < RangerZ2> lol 17:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Lucario Amiibo Exclusive to Toys R Us - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 17:56 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@162.218.105.210] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 17:57 <@Bahhumbug> 3.0.2 is available for C7; C5 is 2.0.5 and C6 is 2.2.2. 17:57 <@Bahhumbug> 3 might rebuild cleanly for 6, unsure. 17:58 <@Bahhumbug> Why do you need 3? 17:58 <@wilpig> damnit RangerZ2 I wish you had said that earlier when I was out 17:58 <@wilpig> doesn't come out til february. 17:59 <@wilpig> that's a pita that one is exclusive to each best buy, toys r us, and gamestop 18:22 -!- klixa is now known as klixa12 18:31 < RangerZ2> lol 18:31 -!- npcomp_ is now known as npcomp 18:32 < aestetix_> wow 18:32 < aestetix_> I don't know which is worse 18:32 < aestetix_> the american health care system, or the sociopathic CEOs 18:35 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: Why do you need vsftpd? 18:35 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: Why do you need vsftpd 3.X? 18:35 <@Bahhumbug> If it's important enough I can probably rebuild 3 for you. 18:36 < RangerZ2> !weather 44512 18:36 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ2: Youngstown, OH :: Clear :: 20F | Wind Chill: 13F | Friday: Mostly clear. Lows overnight in the mid teens. Friday Night: Mainly clear skies. Low around 15F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph. 18:38 <@Bahhumbug> @weather 18:38 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Manchester, TN :: Clear :: 52F (Humidity: 44%) | Friday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 40s. Friday Night: A few clouds. Low around 40F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph. 18:38 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Alerts: :: No alerts. 18:38 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Forecast: :: Fri: Partly Cloudy (57F/40F) | Sat: Partly Cloudy (60F/45F) | Sun: Rain (61F/55F) | Mon: Partly Cloudy (57F/32F) 18:38 <@Bahhumbug> Sucks to be Youngstown. 18:41 < RangerZ2> Bahhumbug: pretty much... 18:42 < RangerZ2> but thats just how YTown has been since September 19, 1977 18:42 < RangerZ2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Youngstown,_Ohio#Black_Monday 18:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Economy of Youngstown, Ohio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 18:42 < RangerZ2> its easy to tell dates when its known as 'black monday' 18:42 < RangerZ2> lol 18:44 < RangerZ2> and for once... it wasn't a racist comment 18:45 < RangerZ2> (race riots might have been more well publicized in LA... but they were 'perfected' in youngstown... :( ) 18:45 <@Bahhumbug> You've apparently not visited Chicago's west side. 18:46 <@Bahhumbug> Puts the Watts riots to shame. 18:46 < RangerZ2> chicago definately had a bigger riots 18:47 < RangerZ2> but per capita... ytown used to be a fucking shithole for non-irish or italians 18:47 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: for the chroot capabilities 18:48 < aestetix_> I want to be able to lock ftp users into their home direcotires 18:48 <@Bahhumbug> You can do that in 2.X 18:48 < RangerZ2> then don't allow them to create subdir? 18:48 < aestetix_> I tried. It wasn't working. 18:48 < RangerZ2> i mean... FTP shouldn't allow you 'outside' of your wall'd garden 18:48 <@Bahhumbug> /usr/share/doc/vsftpd*/* has worked examples I believe. 18:49 < aestetix_> RangerZ2: yet I was able to log in, and do "ls /" and view thigns 18:49 <@Bahhumbug> ls / is the chroot root 18:49 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:49 <@Bahhumbug> If you saw the physical / you did it wrong. 18:49 < RangerZ2> I've actually never set a linux FTP up... I've setup them up on windows 18:49 < aestetix_> let me rephrase 18:49 < aestetix_> "pwd" showed "/home/user" 18:50 < aestetix_> instead of / 18:50 < aestetix_> and yes I'm sure I did it wrong. 18:50 <@Bahhumbug> I'm installing it on box to look. 18:50 < aestetix_> ok 18:50 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has joined #se2600 18:50 <@Bahhumbug> (I don't run ftp anywhere. ftp should have died 2 decades ago in a horrible firey death) 18:50 < aestetix_> I agree. 18:51 < RangerZ2> SFTP isn't 'too' bad 18:51 < aestetix_> However, most companies don't realize that, and think ftp is advanced. 18:52 <@Bahhumbug> chroot_local_user=YES should be all that's necessary. 18:52 < aestetix_> I know. 18:52 < aestetix_> And it didn't work. 18:52 <@Bahhumbug> SFTP != ftp. 18:52 < aestetix_> oh wait 18:52 <@wilpig> fuck you, my ftp is useful still 18:52 < aestetix_> yeah I am using sftp 18:53 <@Bahhumbug> ... 18:53 * Bahhumbug kicks aestetix_ in the dick 18:53 < aestetix_> what 18:53 <@Bahhumbug> sftp != ftp :/ 18:53 <@Bahhumbug> sftp is handled by sshd as an internal subsystem. 18:54 < RangerZ2> whats the FTP that adds encryption ontop? 18:54 < RangerZ2> instead of encryption first 18:54 < RangerZ2> ftp with explicit encryption? 18:54 <@Bahhumbug> ftps is ftp over ssl, sftp is ssh's internal ftp layer. 18:54 <@Bahhumbug> vsftp does ftp/ftps 18:54 < RangerZ2> ahh, i was thinking ftps 18:56 -!- Peaches1984 [~terylbrak@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:56 <@Bahhumbug> rpm -e vsftpd && yum history sync 18:57 <@Bahhumbug> meh, wrong window 18:57 < RangerZ2> not as bad as when wilpig copied his wget of pornhub into the chat... 18:58 < RangerZ2> (the real reason he needs so much disk space) 19:01 < RangerZ2> You know... its been cold.... 19:01 < RangerZ2> How cold has it been.... 19:01 < RangerZ2> Its been so cold that FCC Chairman Wheeler has been seen with his hands in his own pockets 19:03 <@Bahhumbug> heh 19:04 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-124-133.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:30 < RangerZ2> speaking of 19:30 < RangerZ2> AT&T's bluff got called by the FCC 19:31 < RangerZ2> AT&T has to 'prove' how deployment of Fiber wouldn't be profitable under net nuetrality 19:31 < RangerZ2> lol 19:37 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:39 < aestetix_> wow 19:39 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/EgsS56x.jpg 19:39 < aestetix_> that's a horrible "missed connection" 19:42 < RangerZ2> http://pastebin.com/UFnktdHi my discussion with a friend about Math and programming 19:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Math and Real Jobs - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 19:43 < aestetix_> speaking of nashville 19:43 < aestetix_> http://nashville.craigslist.org/cas/4769760484.html 19:46 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has joined #se2600 19:58 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 20:13 < aestetix_> wow I just found an absolutely disgusting porno 20:13 < RangerZ2> seriously... you need to get a fucking hobby 20:13 < RangerZ2> buy a ps4 20:13 < RangerZ2> or something 20:16 < RangerZ2> HAHAHA 20:17 < RangerZ2> the GOP house subcommittee found no wrong doing on Benghazzi 20:17 < aestetix_> wait waht? 20:20 < RangerZ2> AP: "A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees." 20:29 <@Shadow404> it'd be great if the saints row 4 demo could get past character creation so i can try the game out 20:29 <@Shadow404> crappy ass servers 20:30 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/21/politics/benghazi-attack-report/index.html 20:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: Republican-led report debunks Benghazi accusations - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com) 20:31 <@Bahhumbug> So now perhaps the tea baggers can eat a dick and shut up? 20:31 < RangerZ2> nope 20:31 < RangerZ2> senate investigation in 2015 20:31 < RangerZ2> read a little bit further on cnn 20:31 < RangerZ2> lol 20:32 <@Bahhumbug> And the same thing is going to happen in the Senate that just happened in the House. Nothing. 20:32 < RangerZ2> and that IS the goal 20:32 < RangerZ2> eat up time 20:32 < RangerZ2> prevent government from working 20:32 <@Bahhumbug> Meh. They're doing a fine job of that as it is. 20:32 <@Bahhumbug> They don't need anything to add to it.l 20:32 <@Bahhumbug> Their process is fine. 20:37 < aestetix_> so the federal government is doing jack shit 20:37 < aestetix_> and in the meantime the country is falling apart 20:38 < RangerZ2> thats the point 20:38 < RangerZ2> privatize it all 20:38 < RangerZ2> let billionaires live 'normal' live 20:39 < RangerZ2> lives* 20:39 < RangerZ2> the rest of will be good ants for their queens 20:39 < RangerZ2> and not even in a kinky sexy way ... :/ 20:39 < RangerZ2> lol 20:53 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sasquatc4, RangerZ2, @Mirage, vaneck 21:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @brimstone, aestetix_, dasunt, @GateKeeper, k3ymkr, @benthemeek, @Dolemite, scoob, npcomp, vyrus001, (+31 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 21:07 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: EnabrinTain 21:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Dolemite, @shapr, @timoguin, @opticron, @brimstone, @Dickie, strages_, @mog, @brookshire, ware (+30 more) 21:42 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-134-158.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 21:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: EnabrinTain 21:42 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by weber.freenode.net 21:46 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 21:46 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:46 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 21:46 -!- vaneck [~vaneck@section9.vaneckzero.com] has joined #se2600 21:46 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by weber.freenode.net 21:48 <@Shadow404> free insurgency keys: https://www.humblebundle.com/?gift=KhhFzUyXTUZf3Mmq 21:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: Insurgency (at www.humblebundle.com) 21:49 <@wilpig> hahha 21:49 <@wilpig> that's the third set of three to hit this channel recently 21:50 <@shapr> Shadow404: doesn't run on Linux :-( 21:51 <@Shadow404> heh, yeah 21:51 <@Shadow404> just figured i'd try 21:57 <@Dagmar> WHeeee 21:57 <@Dagmar> I love abusing mindless republicans on Facebook 21:58 <@Dagmar> It's one of dC0de's less intelligent friends. :) 21:58 <@Dagmar> I'll leave it to dc0de to explain how to stupid people, I *am* the thing that goes bump in the night. 21:59 <@Dagmar> Damn those Humble Bundle people 22:00 <@Dagmar> THey made me think there was a way to get Gat Out Of Hell this year 22:00 <@Dagmar> '*sigh* 22:01 < Synx|hm> i feel like dog shit, and i have to talk on a conf call from 10 till 1am 22:03 < aestetix_> what is insurgency? 22:03 <@Dagmar> Kind of like CounterStrike apparently 22:03 < aestetix_> I guess I'll find out. 22:11 <@oddball> Dagmar: And yet you were defending one earlier on my FB. :p 22:11 < aestetix_> sweet 22:11 < aestetix_> 1 cent for 10 games 22:12 <@Dagmar> oddball: Which one? 22:12 <@Dagmar> It's altogether possible they were telling the truth. 22:12 <@Dagmar> Occasionally, they get lucky like that. 22:13 <@oddball> The Michael Z Williams going to WisCon thing. 22:13 <@oddball> And my friends that are trying to be SJW are still going at it. 22:14 < aestetix_> nevermind 22:14 < aestetix_> 50 cents for 10 games 22:14 <@oddball> ? 22:14 <@Dagmar> oddball: I back that guy because there's a complete _lack_ of critical thinking being applied in that space. 22:15 <@oddball> yep. :) 22:15 <@Dagmar> If you ever so much as question any SJW, a whole BUNCH of nitwits come out of the woodwork to make all sorts of terrible accusations. 22:15 <@oddball> And the thing is, I'm guessing the guy is going as a vendor... since that's what he does for a living along with being an author. 22:15 <@Dagmar> I don't care if dude's a full-blown Nazi. 22:15 <@Dagmar> The mindset that believes it's a good idea to act as if everyone is a rapist is one of _extreme derangement_ 22:16 < aestetix_> do I have to put an IRC filter on "SJW" now? 22:16 < aestetix_> oddball: what happened 22:16 <@Dagmar> If he's already used to being screamed at by infuriated people, all the better. 22:16 <@oddball> The fun thing is that at least one of the guys acting as a SJW has been damned quick to call girls cunts, etc in the past. 22:16 <@Dagmar> Being right about _one thing_ is a step in the right direction. 22:16 <@shapr> wait, what's wrong with Michael Z Williamson? 22:17 <@Dagmar> No idea, but he's apparently going to an SJW con with Dickwolves shirts 22:17 <@oddball> Michael Z williamson makes me look like a filthy commie bastard. 22:17 <@Dagmar> ...because IT WAS A GOOD JOKE. 22:18 <@oddball> And has decided to go to WisCon. A self-described "feminist scifi con" 22:18 <@shapr> I rather enjoy reading MZW's writings 22:18 <@Dagmar> I can't count the number of times i've been playing an MMO and asked to combat some hideous wrongdoing, where said activity abruptly stops after doing just a token amount of work. 22:18 <@shapr> oh 22:18 <@shapr> wow 22:19 <@oddball> It actually has "women's safe zones" and "people of color safe zones" (read: no guys allowed and no white people allowed) 22:19 <@Dagmar> Penny Arcade ran the comic, some SJWs screamed as if they were publicly putting screaming orphans into a scorpion pit. 22:19 < aestetix_> who is MZW 22:19 <@oddball> scifi author 22:19 <@Dagmar> They _explained_ the comic, because everyone who has played MMOs already understood it, and the screaming did not stop. 22:20 <@oddball> He also goes to conventions and sells knives and t-shirts. 22:20 < aestetix_> ok 22:20 <@Dagmar> There's a *huge* feeling of "something is very wrong here" when you're doing that in a game, but you _don't actually affect the situation_ 22:20 <@oddball> SOme of these T-shirts read things like "US Waterboarding team." 22:20 <@Dagmar> Hehehe 22:20 <@Dagmar> I like that. 22:21 < aestetix_> ok so 22:21 < aestetix_> he told a joke, and now he's getting attacked? 22:21 <@Dagmar> Putting people into "safe zones" does not promote responsible social behaviour. 22:22 <@oddball> Dagmar: Oddly enough, even though your politics are significantly different, I think you'd like the T-shirts he sells. Hell, getting you two into a room and talking might be the price of admission. 22:22 <@oddball> aestetix_: No. I don't think he's joking. 22:22 <@Dagmar> Hey man, if he came up with the idea of the US Waterboarding Team then I like the way he thinks at least a little bit 22:22 <@Dagmar> I might not agree with his personal politics, but he can apparently detect when something is deeply wrong. 22:23 <@Dagmar> ...because there is a vast difference between having a closely held personal belief, and trying to force said belief onto others. 22:23 <@Dagmar> Taunting someone with them is a separate matter. 22:24 <@oddball> http://www.sharppointythings.com/tshirts.html 22:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: T-Shirts - SharpPointyThings.com (at www.sharppointythings.com) 22:24 < aestetix_> http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/i-will-be-going-to-wiscon 22:24 < aestetix_> ok that is funny 22:24 <@Dagmar> Oh I have seen that site before 22:24 <@Dagmar> I have it bookmarked next to T-Shirt Hell 22:24 <@shapr> I need one of those t-shirts 22:24 < RangerZ2> so tesla effect is published by Atlus 22:24 <@oddball> Ah, ok. That's his shop. 22:25 < RangerZ2> and they are one of the few publishing companies that actually treats customers.... like...well... valued customers 22:25 <@Dagmar> The Bloodmouth Carnist shirt almost got my money, except I already have a shitton of black T-shirts. 22:25 < RangerZ2> so I'd buy the bundle for that lone 22:25 <@Dagmar> It's very well executed. 22:25 < RangerZ2> alone 22:26 <@oddball> Are you trying to tell me that one can have too many black t-shirts? 22:26 <@Dagmar> He needs to redo the US Waterboarding Team shirt design tho 22:26 <@Dagmar> It's kind of crap 22:26 <@Dagmar> The idea could be *much* more believably executed. 22:26 <@Dagmar> oddball: I have 24. 22:27 <@Dagmar> 18 of which are _solid_ black 22:27 <@Dagmar> 12 of them are 6% spandex 22:27 <@Dagmar> Actually that's just in one drawer 22:27 <@shapr> dang, I may have to buy ALL OF THESE 22:28 <@Dagmar> Oh heck 22:28 <@Dagmar> I need to link http://www.sharppointythings.com/tshirts-Guns%20Don%27t%20Kill.html to my friend John Alcock, whose little girl is just turning 13. 22:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Guns Don't Kill - T-Shirts - SharpPointyThings.com (at www.sharppointythings.com) 22:28 <@Dagmar> It should speed along the conversations he's having with some of her male friends. 22:29 < aestetix_> so is it just me 22:29 < RangerZ2> yes 22:29 < aestetix_> or does it seem like there are two demographics of women at these conferences 22:29 < aestetix_> annoying teenagers, and fat warthogs 22:29 < aestetix_> warthogs who are usually moms to annoying teenagers 22:30 < RangerZ2> not touching that one with a fucking 10ft pole 22:30 < aestetix_> this is entirely based on what I see on tumblr 22:30 <@Dagmar> Just linked it to both John and and Dave Parsons's wife. :) 22:30 < Synx|hm> can someone tell me what is wrong with steve gibson, the more i listen to security now the more i dispise the guys constant uptalking himself 22:30 <@Dagmar> HE IS A BOGON EMITTER 22:31 < aestetix_> Synx|hm: my only issue is he sometimes dumbs things down 22:31 < aestetix_> but very smart guy 22:31 <@Dagmar> To truly understand the depth of his cluelessness, you need to go all the way back to about 1996-1998. 22:31 < aestetix_> ok maybe not 22:31 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: I wonder about my gnomoria gnomes... they just harvested the wheat into a swastika... 22:31 <@Dagmar> He "discovered" SYN cookies, with both an incorrect conclusion and incomplete fix, _six months_ after the Linux kernel had already implemented a working fix. 22:31 < Synx|hm> i think he is smart (though he does some some oddly stupid shit at times (Win XP is and forever will be safe to use) 22:32 <@oddball> aestetix_: At scifi cons? Clearly, you're going to the wrong ones. 22:32 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: ya thats one thing i really hate, the constantly says how he is the inventor or discoverer or he coined x term 22:32 < RangerZ2> yeah.... 22:32 < RangerZ2> aestetix_: comcicon is known for the cuties 22:32 < RangerZ2> comiccon* 22:32 <@Dagmar> Prior to that He also "discovered" a "vulnerability" in TCP itself, where an attacker could *gasp* open enough connections to completely occupy all the slots available to a TCP service. 22:32 <@oddball> Although, you seemed to fail to notice the hot cosplayers of legal age at Dragoncon, so... you may just fail. 22:33 < RangerZ2> me? never been 22:33 < RangerZ2> or aestetix_ 22:33 <@Dagmar> ...and then contacted several security people at various universities with his talk of "TEH SKY IS FALLING" and when they predictably reacted by giving him strange looks, went on to tell the press that no one really understands the depth of the problem. 22:34 <@Dagmar> Meanwhile, admins who aren't idiots know that if they configure fingerd to only handle 24 connections at once, a resource starvation attack against it is pretty trivial. 22:34 < Synx|hm> ha 22:34 < Synx|hm> finger 22:34 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:35 <@Dagmar> He continued to promote his basically nonsense benefits list of his disk recovery program, long after the majority of it's features were fucking obsolete 22:35 <@Dagmar> SpinRite stopped being special or useful when PEOPLE STOPPED USING MFM/RLL DRIVES. 22:35 < Synx|hm> ya he's peddeling it for SSDs now 22:35 < aestetix_> oddball: yeah DragonCon was..... it felt really underage. 22:35 < Synx|hm> did he make all his money off spinrite? 22:35 <@Dagmar> Probably 22:36 <@oddball> aestetix_: Yeah... you failed. 22:36 < Synx|hm> because he seems like he is rich and just does what ever he wants 22:36 <@Dagmar> The only people from that area more prone to public displays of idiocy was the All.net guy 22:36 <@Dagmar> s/area/era/ 22:36 < Synx|hm> i mean look i still enjoy the odd securitynow podcast but my god is he annoying and i get the feeling Leo things hes a tool as well 22:36 <@Dagmar> It took awhile, and loads of us emailing Leo about it 22:36 < aestetix_> oddball: DragonCon felt like a bunch of college freshmen experiencing freedom from their parents for the first time 22:37 <@Dagmar> I think the only reason Leo deals with him is because they're personal friends. 22:37 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: There's a lot of that, yes 22:38 < Synx|hm> Dagmar: you seen steves SQRL thing, he talked it up like he has invented a new groundbreaking way of PKI 22:39 < Synx|hm> its a horrible system of QR codes and every day PKI 22:39 < Synx|hm> he says "im giving this away for free to the community" 22:39 <@Dagmar> I try not to look at his site. 22:39 <@Dagmar> It just angries up the blood. 22:40 <@Dagmar> There _used_ to be a whole site devoted to essentially, debunking *him* 22:40 < Synx|hm> well he wrote it all in notepad because you know he invtented notepad 22:40 <@Dagmar> stevegibsonsucks.com 22:40 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 22:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ, GateKeeper 22:43 <@Dagmar> You _may_ be able to find it in the wayback machine 22:46 < Synx|hm> grcsucks.com 22:46 < Synx|hm> its there (on the wayback that is) 22:46 <@Dagmar> Ahh 22:46 <@Dagmar> Yes the guys who put the site up did so becuase they got tired of having the dude's nonsense keep popping up like particularly stupid mushrooms 22:46 < Synx|hm> ahh he got his money in marketing 22:47 < Synx|hm> makes sense 22:47 < Synx|hm> he does make sense every once in a blue moon though 22:48 < Synx|hm> what would you suggest for a podcast to replace securitynow though because i cant take it any longer (i really only listen to hear current topics and ignore steves nonsense 22:55 < RangerZ2> some guys I know do one out of cleveland... let me look up the name 22:55 < RangerZ2> https://archive.org/details/securityjustice so... it looks like they stopped doing it 22:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Security Justice Podcast (2008-2011) : Free Audio : Download & Streaming : Internet Archive (at archive.org) 22:55 < Synx|hm> spanks 22:55 < RangerZ2> so only up to 2011 22:56 < Synx|hm> oh bummer 22:56 < RangerZ2> never actually listened much myself, but apparently they had decent numbers 22:57 < RangerZ2> but their jobs probably got busy, etc 22:58 < RangerZ2> https://hurricanelabs.com/podcasts/ 22:58 < RangerZ2> at least still going on 22:59 < RangerZ2> and one of the top security companies in ohio, at least for people wanting to work there... no idea on content quality, etc 23:17 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rlgpwghegwclxwtf] has joined #se2600 23:18 -!- klixa-cloud is now known as Guest42117 23:23 < Guest42117> x 23:29 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JESjHyHVrn4 does poland need russia to invade it to straighten it up... 23:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Winnie the Pooh Banned In Polish Town - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 23:44 < RangerZ2> "A Kentucky fire chief is being criticized for racist comments after he refused to help a family of stranded motorists because they were black, and then suggested that an Asian-American television reporter did not understand English." 23:44 < RangerZ2> ......... 23:49 -!- klixa12 [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: quit] 23:53 < aestetix_> apparently they made a Duckman video game --- Log closed Sat Nov 22 00:00:39 2014