--- Log opened Tue Nov 18 00:00:08 2014
--- Day changed Tue Nov 18 2014
00:00 < RangerZ1> b/c apparently the KKK is recuriting in ferguson and trying to get police
00:01 < aestetix_> oh god
00:03 < RangerZ1> http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/14/11/18/0033218/nyc-to-replace-most-of-its-payphones-with-free-gigabit-wifi-in-2015
00:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: NYC To Replace Most of Its Payphones With Free Gigabit WiFi In 2015 - Slashdot (at mobile.slashdot.org)
00:08 < RangerZ1> http://www.link.nyc/
00:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: CityBridge | LinkNYC (at www.link.nyc)
00:08 < RangerZ1> wtf... someone using a gTLD for something that makes sense
00:08 < RangerZ1> how dare they...
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00:10 < RangerZ1> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/11/17/1915248/coding-bootcamps-presented-as-college-alternative ohh jesus
00:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Coding Bootcamps Presented As "College Alternative" - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
00:10 <@shapr> hmm
00:10 <@shapr> I dunno
00:10 < RangerZ1> [Perhaps this is the sign that the Web 2.0 bubble is finally at its peak. CNN produced a piece on DevBootcamp]
00:11 < RangerZ1> thats really what it says
00:11 <@shapr> RangerZ1: you gonna by the kkk tld?
00:11 <@shapr> buy*
00:11 <@shapr> I'm tired
00:11 <@shapr> I should really sleep, I have another ten hour day tomorrow
00:11 < strife_> eww that sucks, then yeah I would say sleep is a must
00:11 < RangerZ1> shapr: I slept in til noon today
00:11 <@shapr> psh
00:12 < RangerZ1> and stayed in bed until 5pm, playing games
00:12 <@shapr> I drove an hour and a half to start my ten hour workday
00:12 <@shapr> I spent most of the day churning json into LaTeX
00:12 < aestetix_> ok now to go to bed and take a shit. not in that order.
00:12 <@shapr> but the arabic defeated me
00:12 < RangerZ1> shapr
00:12 < RangerZ1> wtf
00:12 <@shapr> I'm generating PDFs for a company with no budget
00:13 < RangerZ1> ahh
00:13 <@shapr> and I didn't know we had arabic search results
00:13 < RangerZ1> yeah... right justified
00:13 < RangerZ1> = fuck your formatting
00:13 <@shapr> LaTeX does not like alternate charsets unless they're carefully escaped
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00:13 <@shapr> and yes, right to left
00:13 <@shapr> so tomorrow I get to finish fixing that.
00:13 <@shapr> but for now
00:13 <@shapr> rest
00:14 < RangerZ1> lies
00:14 < NexusL> all lies, lol
00:14 < RangerZ1> the prostitue we hired should show up soon
00:14 < NexusL> whats up RangerZ1
00:14 < RangerZ1> we made sure that "she" shaved her beard tonight
00:14 < RangerZ1> NexusL: not much
00:14 < RangerZ1> NexusL: quick.... think about steve and cip.... There... didn't that help you...
00:14 < NexusL> exciting
00:15 < NexusL> help me with what?
00:15 < aestetix_> RangerZ1: make sure she shaves her balls too
00:15 < RangerZ1> NexusL: just put you into a better mood
00:16 < RangerZ1> b/c you aren't either of them
00:16 < RangerZ1> lol
00:16 < NexusL> i'm already in a pretty good mood, a minaged to add a new little feature to my python script i am building for shits and giggles
00:17 < NexusL> wow minaged huh......s/minaged/managed
00:18 < RangerZ1> NexusL: you still looking to finish up your bachelors?
00:19 < NexusL> RangerZ1: yeah got a have a few things to deal with before I can go back to school
00:20 < RangerZ1> yeah... thats why I'm thinking some MOOCs would be really good for you
00:20 < RangerZ1> actually study some courses of material, online
00:20 < RangerZ1> and short timeframes
00:20 <@shapr> I finished my bachelor's a year ago!
00:20 <@shapr> only took me 24 years from start to finish
00:21 < RangerZ1> shapr: so you started your bachelors when you were 4 years old?
00:21 < NexusL> RangerZ1: I am getting ready to do a few Coursera classes
00:21 < RangerZ1> congrats
00:21 < RangerZ1> NexusL: sign up for one fo the ones I'm asst. faculty
00:21 < RangerZ1> i'll make fun of you so badly in the forums ;)
00:21 < NexusL> on Coursera?
00:21 <@shapr> RangerZ1: dude, how old do you think I am?
00:22 < eryc_> 12
00:22 <@shapr> RangerZ1: face it, I'm too old for you.
00:22 <@shapr> You'll just have to give up.
00:22 < RangerZ1> shapr: lies...
00:22  * shapr snickers
00:22 < RangerZ1> *huggles up next to shapr*
00:22 < RangerZ1> https://www.coursera.org/specialization/mobilecloudcomputing/2
00:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Coursera - Specializations (at www.coursera.org)
00:22 <@shapr> RangerZ1: when it's approaching 20 degrees F out there, I'll take any warmth I can get.
00:22 < NexusL> 42?
00:23 < RangerZ1> shapr: its below 20 where NexusL is
00:23 <@shapr> yikes
00:24 < RangerZ1> !weather 44512
00:24 <@shapr> NexusL: no, I'm a year older than that
00:24 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ1: Youngstown, OH :: Snow :: 16F | Wind Chill: 4F | :  :
00:24 <@shapr> !weather 35661
00:24 <@GateKeeper> shapr: Muscle Shoals, AL :: Clear :: 26F | Monday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 20s. Monday Night: Partly cloudy skies. A few flurries are possible. Low 21F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph.
00:24 < RangerZ1> wind chil 4
00:24 < RangerZ1> lol
00:24 <@shapr> yeesh
00:24 < RangerZ1> should just say 'fuck you'
00:24 <@shapr> my nose is cold inside wearing my awesome new jacket
00:24 <@shapr> I bought a warm jacket! http://www.scottevest.com/v3_store/Alpha_Jacket.shtml
00:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Brad Thor Alpha Jacket - SCOTTEVEST (at www.scottevest.com)
00:24 <@shapr> it has many pockets!
00:24 <@shapr> I find new pockets about once a day
00:25 <@shapr> but I've only had it a week
00:25 < RangerZ1> my warmest jacket shocks people down here...
00:25 <@oddball> shapr: so... many... pockets...
00:25 <@shapr> mind you, I have some surplus insulation from the ISS in my bedroom, THAT will keep me warm
00:25 <@shapr> probably too warm
00:25 <@shapr> that stuff is TOASTY
00:25 < RangerZ1> its a SF 49ers jacket... that I've had ~20 years... and keeps me warm at real 0
00:25 <@shapr> oddball: I love the pockets!
00:25 <@shapr> RangerZ1: whoa, how old are YOU?
00:26 < NexusL> he is about my age
00:26 < RangerZ1> it got it as a gift when i was like 11~12
00:26 <@oddball> I actually no a guy that almost bought a ScotteVest jacket.  He decided not to because he was afraid he would lose stuff by forgetting which pocket he put it in.
00:26 <@shapr> NexusL: so, how old are you?
00:26 < RangerZ1> oddball: there is a good Linus Tech tips video about that
00:26 < RangerZ1> how many of the pockets are kinda a joke, lol
00:26 <@shapr> oddball: this is my second
00:26 < RangerZ1> the ipad pocket, etc
00:26 < NexusL> about the same age as RangerZ1 :)
00:26 <@shapr> I had the revolution plus for a coupla years before this
00:26 <@shapr> NexusL: STOP IT
00:26  * shapr beats NexusL with his cane
00:27 < RangerZ1> NexusL: is 35 S/W/F
00:27 <@shapr> get off my LAN!
00:27 < NexusL> lol sorry
00:27 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Why is that jacket shocking?  That you actually like the 49ers?
00:27 <@shapr> single white feminist?
00:27 < RangerZ1> shapr: OR... NexusLis whatever you have the money for
00:27 < RangerZ1> lol
00:27 < RangerZ1> oddball: no... its just fucking giantic
00:27 < NexusL> RangerZ1: i have upgraded, now accepting BTC
00:27 <@oddball> ah
00:27 <@shapr> RangerZ1: pix or gtfo!
00:28 < NexusL> LOL
00:28 < RangerZ1> its one of the last 5 star jackets made before they stopped making jackets
00:28 < RangerZ1> 5 star Starter*
00:28 < NexusL> 32 fwm
00:28 < NexusL> fat white male
00:28 <@shapr> ok then
00:28 <@shapr> I'm 43 fit white male
00:29 <@shapr> I got told I look 26 last week
00:29 < NexusL> RangerZ1: i guess i am not as out of shape as cip or steve
00:29 <@shapr> cashier woman wasn't sure I was old enough to buy alcohol
00:29 < RangerZ1> I havne't talked to cip
00:29 <@shapr> must be the cartwheels
00:30 <@shapr> oddball: some of the ScotteVest products have a secret undocumented pocket.
00:30 <@shapr> or more than one
00:31 <@shapr> I've only found three bonus pockets on this one so far
00:31 <@oddball> heh
00:31 <@shapr> mind you, I had the revolution plus jacket for over a year when I found a pocket I hadn't seen yet
00:31 < RangerZ1> one day, we're going to hide some pot in his jacket
00:32 <@shapr> RangerZ1: no one will ever see it again
00:33 <@shapr> this alpha jacket has two pockets specifically for holding the anker-style external phone batteries
00:33 <@shapr> and button holes in the pocket linings so you can power items in any pocket
00:33 <@oddball> nice
00:33 < RangerZ1> yeah i know
00:34 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WoTG2IFrpc
00:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: SCOTTEVEST Travel Vest & Performance T-Shirt Unboxing & Review - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:34 < RangerZ1> i saw this... and then looked into them
00:36 <@shapr> heh, I like this video
00:36 <@shapr> I can put this laptop into either of the front side pockets without anyone noticing
00:38 < RangerZ1> i wear vests/sweatshirts a lot
00:38 < RangerZ1> so i'd probably get this vest if anything
00:40 < RangerZ1> oddball: they have gun versions
00:43 < RangerZ1> http://www.scottevest.com/company/popups/pocket-map_the_hoodie_ctn.shtml?width=900&height=570
00:44 < RangerZ1> the hoodie is more likely what I'd wear, just to have the earbuds cabling and phone storage, etc
00:45 < RangerZ1> damn it...where is corydon when you need him... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4-gy4Ni7RY
00:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dragon Age: Inquisition is TOO GAY for India – BANNED - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:53 <@shapr> I think it's getting colder here
00:53 <@shapr> inside
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01:15 <@shapr> !weather 35661
01:15 <@GateKeeper> shapr: Muscle Shoals, AL :: Clear :: 27F | Wind Chill: 18F | Tuesday: Partly cloudy skies. High 37F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph. Tuesday Night: Clear. Low 23F. Winds light and variable.
01:15 <@shapr> !weather HSV
01:15 <@GateKeeper> shapr: Huntsville International, AL :: Clear :: 26F | Tuesday: Some clouds in the morning will give way to mainly sunny skies for the afternoon. High near 35F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph. Tuesday Night: A mostly clear sky. Near record low temperatures. Low 23F. Winds light and variable.
02:03 < RangerZ> !weather 37215
02:03 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Nashville, TN :: Snow :: 25F | Wind Chill: 16F | Tuesday: Partly cloudy skies. High 31F. Winds W at 10 to 20 mph. Tuesday Night: Clear. Low 23F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph.
02:03 < RangerZ> !weather CLE
02:03 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Cleveland-Hopkins International, OH :: Clear :: 13F | Wind Chill: -6F | Tuesday: Blustery with snow showers. High near 20F. Winds WSW at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of snow 60%. Tuesday Night: A few clouds from time to time. Gusty winds diminishing after midnight. A few flurries are possible. Low around 10F. Winds SW at 20 to 30 mph.
02:04 < RangerZ> !weather OAK
02:04 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Metro Oakland International, CA :: Mostly Cloudy :: 53F | Monday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the upper 40s. Monday Night: A few clouds. Low 49F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph.
02:04 < RangerZ> ok fuck him via corydon
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07:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:58 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to go upgrade some more power strip firmware
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09:19 <@Dolemite> admin
09:20 <@Dolemite> wrong window, good thing it was just the default username.  heh
09:28 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING!
09:31 <@Dolemite> GOOD VAGINA PUNCH!
09:31  * Dolemite punches shapr in the vagina
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09:31 <@shapr> well, you missed me
09:32 <@shapr> I have no connections to vaginas at the moment.
09:36 <@Dolemite> admin
09:36 <@Dolemite> there I go again, dammit
09:37 <@shapr> Dolemite: you called?
09:39 <@Dolemite> shapr: Yeah, upgrade firmware on these power strips for me
09:39 <@shapr> heh
09:39 <@CRasH180> m'ok
09:47 <@Dolemite> Man, this is a can't win situation.  I decided to do firmware upgrades today in this area because you have to be in the hot aisle...  and normally each cabinet is cranking out about 10 kW, but today is planned maintenance downtime.
09:48 <@shapr> so you're cold in the hot place?
09:48 <@shapr> Dolemite: HELL FROZE OVER
09:48 <@Dolemite> Now it's too freakin' cold because the systems are idle and just blowing cold air from the cold aisle straight out the back.
09:48 <@shapr> Dolemite: you need to work on your timing
09:49 <@Dolemite> Well I'd rather be cold than burning up
09:49 <@Dolemite> But it's 51 in the cold aisle and 68 in the hot aisle right now
09:50 <@Dolemite> 51 is too low.  I need to get the ME to adjust the setpoint on the CRAH higher.
09:51 <@Dolemite> So they're not quite idle
09:51 <@Dolemite> it's just that the intake is too damn cold
09:52 <@wilpig> our facility here has the setpoint at 65 for under the floor
09:52 <@wilpig> I'd kill for 55
09:52 <@wilpig> that would partially solve my row1 / row2 heat issues
09:52 <@wilpig> doors are the last piece to that puzzle
09:53 <@Dolemite> We've been gradually moving up in certain areas.  This is an area that I'm just now getting moved into pods with cold aisle containment.
09:53 <@Dolemite> So historically if you didn't keep it at meat locker temps, you'd get temperature alarms in the bad areas
09:53 <@wilpig> I'm talking to upsite about thei aislelok line but they just came out with the 45u line and they're in demand
09:54 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Upsite is good.  We use their KoldLok grommets for all floor penetrations, now.  Still have a bunch of old cuts with no grommets to get rid of, though.
09:54 <@Dolemite> Some of the holes in the floor here are 12" x 12" with zero grommets.  Air is just flooding out of it.
09:57 <@wilpig> we use their aislelok rack skirts here now.  
10:04 <@Dolemite> We're using the Polargy cold aisle containment systems here.  They look REALLY nice when installed properly.
10:14 <@Dolemite> yay, finally made it to the Mellanox switch cabinet.  It's putting out heat.
10:17 <@wilpig> http://www.upsite.com/products/aislelok/aislelok-modular-containment-bi-directional-doors/
10:19 <@Dolemite> Yep, I saw them at Data Center World
10:24 <@Dolemite> I just didn't care for the magnetic mounts
10:25 <@Dolemite> Yet another thing I don't want to have to deal with lUsers and the perceived safety issues
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10:35 <@CRasH180> attending the Tennessee BMC User Conference today. Woo hoo!
10:35 <@CRasH180> You all have a good day! :)
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10:41 <@wilpig> our cabinets here have a good 2-3" of deadspace outside the rails to the outer skin
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10:41 <@wilpig> it would take a hell of a magnet to penetrate that far
10:42 <@Dolemite> Same here, but the users would point out that someone could easily bump the door and cause the magnet to slip, thereby creating a safety hazard
10:42 <@Dolemite> You truly underestimate the power of the Dark Side of the Asshattery Force
10:42 <@wilpig> that's when you show them how deep the floor is
10:42 <@wilpig> "hey wanna see something neat"
10:42 <@wilpig> *closes floor*
10:45  * Dolemite reminds wilpig that as a tax payer, he would be the one paying out the workers comp and/or death benefits to those he's suggesting I do this to
10:45 <@wilpig> I'm okay with that
10:45 <@Dolemite> There are probably at least 150,000,000 others who aren't
10:47 <@wilpig> the way I see it, if he survives then he's learned what happens when he says stupid things
10:47 <@wilpig> if he dies, he serves as a warning to the others
10:47 <@wilpig> it really is win/win
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10:53 <@Dickie> Your nick, followed by the number of children you have
10:53 <@Dickie> I get it
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10:59 <@Dolemite> Dickie - toilet babies don't count
11:03 <@Dickie2> All of my babies thrive!
11:03 <@Dickie2> We are of powerful stock
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11:03 <@Dickie> JOKE OVER
11:04 <@Dolemite> </dickjokes>
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11:33 <@Dolemite> yay, last 2 power strips to worry about today!
11:36 <@Dolemite> Good God, I guess the operators use the rule of "When you don't know what the fuck you're doing, just add more dashes!"
11:36 <@Dolemite> This power strip was named CDU-E-204-BD12-B.  The correct naming format would be E204-BD12B.
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13:26 <@shapr> went looking for drone music, was not disappointed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlqe1DXnJKQ
13:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Flying Robot Rockstars - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:53 < sasquatc4> holy fuck, comcast bill went up to 125, for just fucking internet (plus phone but its the same with or without it)
13:54 <@opticron> did your introductory rate go away?
13:55 < sasquatc4> i never know what the hell my account is on, ive had the same account for like 8 years now, a couple years ago they threw in the phone stuff since it dropped the cost alot, then inched up year after year
13:55 <@opticron> if you call and yell at them about prices every 6 months or so, you can stay on introductory rates forever
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13:57 < sasquatc3> now apparently the entire phone discount dissappered except for 3$ for some reason
13:57 < sasquatc3> but we've had that for like 3 years
13:57 < sasquatc3> called them though and they threw me on some other random hidden discount to drop it back down again
13:58 < sasquatc3> i hope centurylink hurries up and gets their gigabit service out around town quick, they may not be as reliable but hopefully its less billing shenanigans than cocmast
13:58 < sasquatc3> interesting typo
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14:20 < aestetix_> penis
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14:22 <@klixa12> >has nothing to say >says penis >thinks its cool >others really just think its lame but dont feel like wasting the time to say so
14:23 <@Dolemite> klixa12++
14:24 < aestetix_> klixa12: would vagina be better?
14:24 <@klixa12> they are equal in lameness
14:25 < aestetix_> what word is less lame?
14:26 <@Bahhumbug> How about "Grow the fuck up."?  Are those words less lame?
14:29 < aestetix_> Unrelated: is it snowing for you guys?
14:30 <@klixa12> yes
14:33 <@Dickie> Guys?
14:33 <@Dickie> #patriarchy
14:35 < aestetix_> http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/18/us/ferguson-tale-of-two-streets/index.html
14:37 < aestetix_> https://letsencrypt.org/howitworks/technology/
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14:58 < aestetix_> https://github.com/letsencrypt/lets-encrypt-preview
15:06 <@Shadow404> straight talk support can go diaf
15:06 <@Shadow404> they messed up provisioning of data during auto renew
15:07 <@Shadow404> and took a half a day and 4 calls to fix
15:07 <@Shadow404> had to prove my phone out with  a co workers sim card
15:07 <@Shadow404> gahhhhh
15:15 <@Dolemite> Ok, first of all, it's completely your fault, Shadow404.  You apparently expected Straight Talk, the bottom of the barrel in terms of low-bid cellular carriers, to have support.
15:16 <@timoguin> Hah! The foolery!
15:16 <@Shadow404> true
15:17 <@Shadow404> but you cant beat price for service
15:17 <@timoguin> hey aestetix_
15:17 <@Shadow404> at the expense of horrible support
15:17 <@timoguin> penis
15:17 <@Shadow404> timoguin: vagina!
15:17 <@timoguin> aestetix_ will you laff with me?
15:27 <@Dolemite> Maybe aestetix thinks that penis and vagina are like Beetlejuice.  If you say it enough times, it will appear.
15:35 <@Bahhumbug> He's in Oakland.  If that's what he's after the Armory isn't that far from him.
15:42 <@Bahhumbug> @weather
15:42 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Manchester, TN :: Clear :: 30F (Humidity: 32%) | Wind Chill: 21F | Tuesday: Sunny. High 31F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Near record low temperatures. Low near 20F. Winds light and variable.
15:42 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Alerts: :: No alerts.
15:42 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Forecast: :: Tue: Clear (31F/20F) | Wed: Partly Cloudy (47F/27F) | Thu: Clear (46F/28F) | Fri: Partly Cloudy (53F/38F)
15:42 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah... it's not that warm.
15:43 <@Shadow404> @weather
15:43 <@GateKeeper> Shadow404: Marietta, GA :: Partly Cloudy :: 30F | Wind Chill: 20F | Tuesday: Sunny. High 34F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Near record low temperatures. Low 19F. Winds light and variable.
15:43 <@Shadow404> how is it a degree colder tonight in ga?
15:44 <@Dagmar> Because this is the Darwinian season
15:50 < RangerZ> @weather 44512
15:50 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Youngstown, OH :: Mostly Cloudy :: 18F | Wind Chill: 1F | Tuesday: Variable clouds with snow showers. High 18F. Winds WSW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 60%. Tuesday Night: Clear to partly cloudy. Record low temperatures expected. Low 8F. Winds WSW at 15 to 25 mph.
15:50 < RangerZ> @weather BNA
15:50 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Nashville International, TN :: Clear :: 31F | Wind Chill: 23F | Tuesday: Sunny. High 31F. Winds W at 10 to 15 mph. Tuesday Night: Clear skies. Low 23F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph.
15:51  * RangerZ can't wait for it to get to 0 degrees outside again
15:51 < RangerZ> see the city basically shut down, b/c people dont know how to handle it
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15:57 < RangerZ> that or inches or snow
16:00 < aestetix_> RangerZ: http://i.imgur.com/wYxrGYy.png
16:00 < aestetix_> you'll appreciate that
16:00 < RangerZ> I can't wait for Dagmar to be warning us all that the news used the "FLURRIES" word
16:00 <@Shadow404> had a mini fish tail on black ice this morning, not overreacting is the main thing
16:01 < RangerZ> aestetix_: yeah, thats always been known
16:02 < RangerZ> but I'd take 100k a year for being a professor at age 60 than 120k a year for being a Silicon Valley employee
16:02 < RangerZ> lol
16:02 < RangerZ> having to go on partial disability because of stress
16:03 < aestetix_> that's common around here
16:03 < RangerZ> god... only craven lunatics would work at places that made that an option
16:03 < aestetix_> although it's more common for someone to just have a big burnout
16:03 < aestetix_> where someone goes radio silent for a week, and then suddenly all their emails and code commits are gone
16:04 < aestetix_> and any google docs they had
16:05 < aestetix_> (since someone who is fresh out of college probably doesn't have the emotional maturity to go to a doctor instead of emoquitting)
16:05 < RangerZ> OR
16:05 < RangerZ> they aren't brainwashed enough to think they have to take that level of abuse
16:05 < RangerZ> part of me thinks they are the only ones making the right decsion
16:05 <@Shadow404> the latter
16:06 < RangerZ> decision*
16:06 < aestetix_> RangerZ: anyone coming out here to live the life they've heard of is already drinking the kool-aid
16:06 < aestetix_> (I came out here before the boom, when the cost of living was reasonable and there were still artists)
16:06 < RangerZ> you realize i only make 25k year~ish right?
16:07 < RangerZ> and have my own 1,000 sq.ft. aptartment
16:07 < aestetix_> heh
16:07 < aestetix_> jesus
16:07 < aestetix_> that's insane
16:07 <@Bahhumbug> No.  That's the way it should be.  Where you're at is insane.
16:07 < RangerZ> 2 bed, 2 bath , full kitchen
16:07 < RangerZ> mind you... i don't have a lot of left over savings...
16:08 < aestetix_> RangerZ: it's hard for me to imagine a place like that with a rent under $1500
16:08 < RangerZ> but i'm fine with that because I don't have a roommate
16:08 < RangerZ> 595 when i moved in
16:08 < aestetix_> but yeah around here that would likely go for $4000 a month
16:08 < aestetix_> at least
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16:09 < RangerZ> also, a mini "forest" behind me, so there is 0 sounds of city/etc
16:09 < aestetix_> most tech employees I know have roommates and still pay like $2500/month
16:09 < RangerZ> and my back porch faces the trees/etc
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16:09 < aestetix_> Most of them are also unmarried and have no kids.
16:09 < RangerZ> aestetix_: honestly... its THAT area thats fucked
16:10 < aestetix_> yep
16:10 < aestetix_> And filled with disciples of Peter Thiel, aka Ayn Rand
16:10 < RangerZ> cleveland/pittsburg/columbus/akron/cinci/lousiville
16:11 < aestetix_> all of which btw have fantastic downtown structures
16:11 < aestetix_> the last time I was in cleveland proper I remember walking through the streets and admiring the buildings
16:11 < RangerZ> any/all of those places have a 'big city' feel and lots of stuff to do, and are ~1/5th the cost of SF, etc
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16:11 < RangerZ> sure they might not be AS 'big city' as SF, b/c of the diversity in SF
16:12 < aestetix_> what diversity
16:12 < RangerZ> but the 'cost vs benefit' ratio isn't even close
16:12 < aestetix_> if you mean we're diverse because some of the startups have a token female
16:12 < RangerZ> thats what my friend who lives in SF says is the reason she doesn't move
16:12 < RangerZ> "because of the diversity" in SF
16:12 < aestetix_> uh
16:13 < aestetix_> it *used to be* diverse
16:13 < RangerZ> she's drank the cool-aid basically, lol
16:13 < RangerZ> but yeah, I think she's starting to realize that
16:13 < aestetix_> like 6 years ago it was awesome here
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16:14 < RangerZ> b/c after she took part in that devbootcamp, she's started to realize the things i've been saying about how "wed devs" aren't "programmers" by default
16:14 < RangerZ> sure there can be overlap
16:14 < aestetix_> wed dev?
16:14 < RangerZ> like an entire web dev company i know back home is staffed with BS CS degree holders
16:14 < RangerZ> html/css/js
16:14 < RangerZ> web*
16:14 < aestetix_> oh web dev
16:15 < aestetix_> honestly one place I think is going to be awesome is Detroit
16:16 < aestetix_> it's so completely broke that everyone who is poor can afford to live there
16:16 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not sure which is more irritating...  aestetix_'s constant juvenile attempts at humor or his constant whining about CoL in the Bay Area.
16:16 <@Bahhumbug> The former is a lost cause; the latter is easily solved by relocation.
16:16  * aestetix_ hugs Bahhumbug 
16:17 < RangerZ> aestetix_: you know they have a somewhat growing tech center there now too?
16:17 < aestetix_> I'm not surprised.
16:17 < RangerZ> b/c people from sillyvalley decided to GTFO
16:17 < aestetix_> One of my friends lives there and he loves it.
16:18 < RangerZ> you want to BUY a house for 80k ?
16:18 < RangerZ> 1/3 an acre
16:18 < RangerZ> 1600 sq.ft
16:18 < RangerZ> etc
16:18 < RangerZ> poor aestetix_ wasn't able to find this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYU7krdhK_I
16:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Woman Suffers Six Hours of Orgasms a Day! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:23 < RangerZ> but yeah... aestetix_ you should look on linnked or dice and then look on zillow on cleveland or some other 'major city' in the midwest
16:23 < RangerZ> and then cry yourself to sleep
16:24 <@oddball> "suffers" you say...
16:24 < aestetix_> wow
16:24 < aestetix_> amazing how the internet looks without adblock
16:24 <@oddball> "my god, it's full of ads!"
16:24 < RangerZ> its not just 'ads'
16:25 < RangerZ> its 'annoying fucking ads'
16:25 < RangerZ> i went years trying to not use adblock
16:25 <@Bahhumbug> What are "ads"?
16:25 < RangerZ> and then i just gave up because MOVIE ads starting playing audio when i was going to sites that I was NOT watching videos
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17:25 < aestetix_> anyone here used kali linux?
17:25 < aestetix_> curious whether it's worth learning
17:28 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYQlSxHO5w but Square Enix lost the code for Final Fantasy 7 source code... and hasn't remade it... because it would take too long...
17:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Final Fantasy 7 Has Been Completely Recreated in LittleBigPlanet - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:29 < RangerZ1> aestetix_: Nexus has
17:29 < RangerZ1> if he comes back in
17:29 < RangerZ1> i think he even ported it to android
17:29 < RangerZ1> or something...
17:30  * RangerZ1 kinda didn't care at the time and just nodded and said 'uhh huhhh'
17:34 < aestetix_> hmm
17:34 < aestetix_> for the most part kali seems like a frontend for people who don't knwo how to write shellcode
17:35 < aestetix_> or well, a distro containing a frontend
17:39  * Dickie exposes his frontend
17:40  * aestetix_ cuts off Dickie's frontend
17:41 <@Dickie> I need that.
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17:51 <@shapr> millions of peaches
17:51 <@shapr> peaches for me
17:53 <@klixa12> hey Shadow404
17:53 <@klixa12> err
17:53 <@klixa12> shapr:
17:54 <@shapr> WHAT?
17:54  * shapr hugs klixa12 
17:54  * klixa12 hugs shapr  back
17:54 <@shapr> yay hugs!
17:54 <@klixa12> you juts got 2 for teh price of  one, since im 2 people right now
17:54 <@shapr> hurrah!
17:54 <@shapr> bonus hugs!
17:55 <@klixa12> :)
17:55 <@klixa12> i have a problem. I want pancakes, but i dont have any! :(
17:55 <@shapr> oh no!
17:55 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: I've heard good things about Kali but I've not yet spun a vm up to play with it.
17:56 <@klixa12> i have never used kali, but i used to use backtrack all the time
17:56 <@shapr> kali is the next version of backtrack!
17:56 <@klixa12> now everyone has wpa not wep tho, so i have little use for it
17:56 <@Bahhumbug> TAILS is the modern backtrack, isn't it?
17:57 <@klixa12> shapr: yes i know, hence mentioning bt
17:57 <@klixa12> :D
17:57 <@klixa12> Bahhumbug: no, tails is a TOR debian distro
17:57 <@klixa12> its debian with tor preinstalled
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17:57  * Bahhumbug scratches that trainwreck off the list.
17:57 <@Bahhumbug> Thanks.
17:58 <@klixa12> yw
17:58 <@klixa12> oh man, i wish i still had my nexus 7 now...kali runs on it
17:58 <@klixa12> that would be fun to play with
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18:03 < RangerZ1> klixa12: thats probably what nexus was talking about then, lol
18:03 < RangerZ1> aestetix_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNNAdTAM5os this seems like something you'd like
18:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: ► WTF Is... - This War of Mine ? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:06 < RangerZ1> its a war survival game, should remind you of SillyVally
18:06 < RangerZ1> lol
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18:26 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: http://games.slashdot.org/story/14/11/18/0353240/elite-dangerous-dumps-offline-single-player :/
18:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Elite: Dangerous Dumps Offline Single-Player - Slashdot (at games.slashdot.org)
18:30 <@Dagmar> Not a real problem
18:30 <@Dagmar> I have the murdership
18:32 <@Dagmar> Once you have that, you have a large cargo hold and high-powered weapons.
18:33 <@Dagmar> ...and the ability to bounce right out if anything goes awry.
18:33 <@shapr> klixa12: I want to run kali in my jacket, what hardware do you suggest?
18:34 <@klixa12> shapr: a nexus 5
18:34 <@shapr> hmm
18:34 <@shapr> ok, you convinced me
18:34  * shapr sends money to Google
18:34 <@shapr> They're all sold out :-(
18:35 <@klixa12> hmmm... oh well... sad times
18:35 <@Dagmar> Raspberry Pi.
18:35 <@shapr> also, why are they $400? I thought they cost more than that?
18:35 <@Dagmar> ...or the beaglebone
18:35 <@Dagmar> They're both tiny as fuck
18:35 <@shapr> oh, I have a spare beaglebone, that could work
18:36 <@Dagmar> Someone needs to make one of the fucking things with dual ethernet ports
18:37 <@shapr> why so?
18:37 <@shapr> beaglebone has usb-ethernet and a real ethernet port
18:37 <@shapr> that could work
18:37 <@Dagmar> Because the USB-ethernet will always be bottlenecked for gigabit ethernet
18:37 <@Dagmar> ...and ugly.
18:38 <@Dagmar> DOngles are a last-ditch option IMHO.
18:38 <@Dagmar> Unless I'm mistaken, USB 2.0 can't keep up with GigE and they don't make USB 3.0 ports on those things
18:39 <@Dagmar> THe only thing I've seen that comes close is that little teeny weeny router the Chinese are selling on DX that was the subject of that Kickstarter fraud
18:42 <@Dagmar> RnagerZ: Some of the ships interiors are clearly meant for a copilot/gunner and I'd dearly love to see something done with that
18:43 < RangerZ> http://blog.embeddedcoding.com/2012/09/new-ti-arm-starter-kit-includes-display.html dual gigabit
18:43 <@GateKeeper> Title: Embedded Coding: New TI ARM Starter Kit Includes Display (at blog.embeddedcoding.com)
18:44 < RangerZ> but 200$
18:44 < RangerZ> lol
18:44 <@Dagmar> Yep.  There
18:44 <@Dagmar> s the problem
18:44 <@Dagmar> No one makes them cheap
18:44 < RangerZ> does the new A+ ra pi have dual ethernet?
18:45 <@Dagmar> Not that I've heard
18:45 < RangerZ> hmm guess not
18:45 < RangerZ> could have sworn i heard 'something' with dual eth
18:45 < RangerZ> but A+ is only 20$
18:45 < RangerZ> thats 'throw away' money level
18:46 < RangerZ> just wrap it in thermite... and if shit hits the fan... ignite it, and destroy evidence
18:46 < RangerZ> lol
18:46 <@Dagmar> Or feed it to the dog
18:47 <@Dagmar> Or hell, just chuck it into the barbeque grille or microwave oven
18:47 <@Dagmar> Sensitive electronics just *love* plasma
18:50 < RangerZ> but usb ethernet is fine for things like 10/100
18:50 < RangerZ> just not gigabit
18:51 < RangerZ> and you need PCI-E for 10gigabit
18:51 < RangerZ> also those cards alone are like 300$
18:52 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure I won't be using 10g at home anytime soon
18:52 < RangerZ> just ask comcast/verizon they can't afford to buy those cards
18:52 < RangerZ> to unbottleneck connections to netflix's ISP
18:53 < RangerZ> lol
18:53 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I agree, unless you're doing high quality video production or rendering... no need for more than gigabit really
19:02 < RangerZ> ok... wtf... i have a headache like I was working in silcon valley
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20:02 < RangerZ> so SOME good news... the keystone XL pipeline vote failed today
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> It would have been vetoed anyway.
20:15 <@Bahhumbug> But I have to admit, I am somewhat shocked that the republicunts couldn't come up with the votes.
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20:18 < RangerZ> i'm just glad the republicans couldn't pass it now
20:18 < RangerZ> b/c now it will be the sacrifice of what it takes to get the federal budget passed for 1 (god I hope 2 years)
20:20 <@klixa12> people are fucking lazy http://world.honda.com/UNI-CUB/
20:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Honda Worldwide | UNI-CUB (at world.honda.com)
20:21 <@Shadow404> whos up to speed on all the new android phone tech?
20:21 <@Shadow404> i need a recommendation
20:21 <@klixa12> just ask
20:21  * Shadow404 waits for characters to appear in ssh while wilpig is downloading his pron for the night
20:21 <@Shadow404> ok, so its down to this
20:22 <@Shadow404> Lenovo A916 MTK6592 @ $200
20:22 <@Shadow404> Motorola MOTO X Developer Edition 32GB @ $229.99
20:22 <@Shadow404> or
20:22 <@Shadow404> Titan HD E500 @ $179
20:23 <@Shadow404> all unlocked GSM
20:23 <@Shadow404> my s3 is just about reached its shelf(pocket life)
20:24 <@klixa12> my vote is for the moto
20:24 <@Shadow404> thats what im thinking
20:24 <@klixa12> the posh looks like some off brand genric phone despite its octo core, so i dont like it
20:25 <@Shadow404> klixa12: same feelings myself
20:25 <@Shadow404> i dont like lenovo, its an offbrand to start with
20:25 <@klixa12> yeah
20:25 <@Shadow404> posh is unknown sorta like blu
20:25 <@klixa12> same vibe for it too...the moto is nice tho
20:25 <@klixa12> i like it
20:25 <@Shadow404> had bad exp with blu
20:25 <@Shadow404> ebay had the motox for way cheap yesterday
20:26 <@Shadow404> i should of pulled the trigger
20:26 <@Shadow404> it went up to regular price again today
20:26 <@Shadow404> :(
20:26 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not sure I would consider Lenovo an off-brand any longer.
20:26 <@Shadow404> really?
20:27 <@klixa12> lenovo isnt known for phoens tho
20:28 <@Shadow404> that was where i was going with it
20:30 <@Shadow404> so with the posh, i can get it for that price on amazon, so free risk free shipping and free return
20:30 <@Shadow404> price for performance may be worth a test drive
20:32 <@klixa12> do you do prepaid phone servie or what
20:32 <@Shadow404> straight talk
20:33 <@Shadow404> $45 for 3gb, unl voice/txt
20:33 <@klixa12> http://www.virginmobileusa.com/shop/cell-phones/htc-desire-phone/features/
20:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: The HTC Desire 4G LTE Android Smartphone is available from Virgin Mobile. Get a no contract plan with unlimited data and messaging. |Virgin Mobile USA (at www.virginmobileusa.com)
20:33 <@klixa12> this is the best preaid deal i have seen
20:33 <@klixa12> tahts why i asked
20:33 <@Bahhumbug> I 'spose that's true.  But they've got their hands everywhere and putting out phones isn't rocket science any more but I see your point.
20:33 <@klixa12> nice phone, new, cheap and cheap service
20:33 <@klixa12> if i didnt have an iphone/plan etc. id get that phpne and that service
20:33 <@Shadow404> Bahhumbug: which point?
20:34 <@Shadow404> klixa12: oddly enough, straight talk has almost the same deal
20:34 <@Shadow404> on the same phone
20:34 < RangerZ> Shadow404: I just got the S3 this year... and got benthemeek's old battery pack... and i go days without charging it
20:34 < RangerZ> thats really the key to a phone now... having navigation/etc, but also being able to stay alive in standby for days... and basically the requires bigger battery packs
20:35 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: or new technology coming out soon
20:35 < RangerZ> there really isn't any
20:35 <@klixa12> RangerZ: you are why i dont have an s3 to play with :P lol
20:35 < RangerZ> thats the thing...
20:35 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: wait and see
20:36 <@klixa12> Shadow404:  i dont llike used phones myself
20:36 <@klixa12> i dont like used elctronics
20:36 < RangerZ> as long as it has NFC, thats really (sadly) the newest tech out there
20:36 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: my s3 is almost falling apart
20:36 <@Shadow404> klixa12: where does it say used?
20:37 <@klixa12> Shadow404: you said ebay
20:37 < RangerZ> S5 from virgin mobile is 450$ now
20:37 <@klixa12> i meant your phones...i assumed ebay meant used
20:37 <@Shadow404> ok
20:37 <@Shadow404> not sure i said ebay
20:37 <@Shadow404> or anything about used
20:38 <@Shadow404> i would only buy NEW
20:38 < RangerZ> phones have 'peaked' for me for a while... because they keep on missing the point
20:38 < RangerZ> the phones aren't having enough ram IMHO
20:38 <@klixa12> Shadow404: [19:25:56] <@Shadow404>	ebay had the motox for way cheap yesterday
20:38 <@klixa12> [19:26:03] <@Shadow404>	i should of pulled the trigger
20:38 < RangerZ> or big enough batteries
20:38 <@Shadow404> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Motorola-MOTO-X-Developer-Edition-32GB-4-1-GSM-Unlocked-US-Warranty/221595159583?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item339819cc1f
20:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: New Motorola Moto x Developer Edition 32GB 4 1 GSM Unlocked US Warranty | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
20:38 <@Shadow404> :)
20:38 <@Shadow404> but i understand the confusion
20:39 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: the posh has 8gb rom/1gb ram
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20:40 < RangerZ> and i said, they don't have enough RAM
20:40 <@Bahhumbug> Shadow404: This one: [19:27:41] <@klixa12> lenovo isnt known for phoens tho
20:40 < RangerZ> I would like to see 4GB minimum 8GB optimum for 'future proof' phone
20:42 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: eek, thats alot to squeeze into a small form factor
20:42 < RangerZ> I'd also like to see micro-SD on ALL phones
20:42 < RangerZ> Shadow404: not really
20:42 < aestetix_> RangerZ: I would kill for that.
20:42 < aestetix_> what I would also love is the ability to save phone related data on them
20:42 < RangerZ> android has that
20:43 < RangerZ> lol
20:43 < RangerZ> as long as you mean 'contacts', etc
20:43 < RangerZ> and not the phone's radio settings/etc
20:43 < aestetix_> contacts and SMS
20:43 < aestetix_> wait really?
20:43 < aestetix_> android allows you to save that to an SD card?
20:43 < RangerZ> of course
20:43 <@Shadow404> yes
20:43 <@Shadow404> and to the cloud
20:43 < RangerZ> you just need an app that does it
20:43 < aestetix_> I don't care about the cloud
20:43 < aestetix_> hmmm ok
20:43 < RangerZ> contacts are just a 'content provider'
20:44 < RangerZ> which means any application you give permission can read/write to it
20:44 < aestetix_> I spent a long time looking for that and couldn't find a phone that did
20:44 < RangerZ> and then serialize it to the SD card or...whatever
20:44 <@Shadow404> so far, android has been pretty secure
20:44 < RangerZ> unless you download apps from chinese webstores
20:44 < RangerZ> lol
20:44 <@Shadow404> though i would like to be able to dial down even further whenn it comes to permissions requests into waht exactly its pulling
20:45 < aestetix_> you know
20:45 < aestetix_> http://www.everbuying.com/product549652.html
20:45 < aestetix_> for a phone that's supposed to be super cheap, $170 is not a good deal
20:45 <@Shadow404> eeek
20:45 <@Shadow404> firefox os
20:45 < RangerZ> for a 'top tier' phone, that 'is cheap'
20:45 <@Shadow404> no no no no
20:45 < aestetix_> Shadow404: I'm actually interested in it
20:45 < aestetix_> because mozilla is awesome
20:46 < aestetix_> although if it's anything like firefox has been lately.... memory hogging and crashing...
20:46 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: ok, i dont want firefox os for one main reason
20:46 <@Shadow404> not many apps
20:47 <@Shadow404> and until they can emulate and isntall android apps, no
20:47 < aestetix_> I'm less interested in apps
20:47 <@Shadow404> i like having a huge selection of apps for everything i could ever want
20:47 < aestetix_> And more intersed in knowing there is security against the NSA :p
20:47 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: so that might work for you
20:47 < RangerZ> aestetix_: just view 'apps' as utilities
20:47 < RangerZ> same idea as posix utils
20:47 < RangerZ> just optional ones
20:55 < RangerZ> aestetix_ must have creamed his pants at the UBER issue today
20:55 < RangerZ> lol
21:00 <@Bahhumbug> I would take it as a personal favor to never use that phrase again.
21:02 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: would you like cream and sugar in your coffee?
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21:11 <@Dagmar> Oi!  Don't badmouth coffee.
21:11 < aestetix_> ok dumb question
21:11 < aestetix_> trying to find out info on domain jumping
21:12 <@Dagmar> ?
21:12 <@Dagmar> You're going to have to explain that term first
21:12 < aestetix_> when someone hijacks your DNS< apparently
21:12 <@Dagmar> Okay
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21:13 < aestetix_> I think
21:13 <@Dagmar> Now let's try a specific question about it.
21:13 < aestetix_> like when a subdomain magically appears for your site that you didn't set
21:13 < aestetix_> I mean there are a number of ways that can happen
21:13 <@Dagmar> Start with the root server lookup and see which servers it's pointing to
21:14 <@Dagmar> If they're still the right ones, dump the zones on those to see if they're saying the right things
21:14 <@Dagmar> There's actually very _few_ ways what you describe can happen
21:15 <@Dagmar> If the nameservers weren't tampered with, then someone topologically close to where the bogus zone is showing up is dicking around
21:15 <@Dagmar> Someone could be spoofing responses, because if they get their response in ahead of the official NX response, they'll win
21:16 <@Dagmar> Doing so without sniffing tends to involve sending a *lot* of response packets and crossing of fingers.
21:17 <@Bahhumbug> Coffee is nasty.
21:17 <@Dagmar> The extreme edge case would be the offical nameservers are set up hellishly incorrectly and allowing DDNS or NOTIFYs to come from places they shouldn't
21:17 <@Bahhumbug> I never developed a taste for it.
21:17 <@Dagmar> Coffee is where caffiene comes from.
21:17 <@Dagmar> You were probably only dealing with crappy coffee houses
21:17 <@Dagmar> ...like Starbucks
21:17 <@Dagmar> ...who over-roast their beans which gives them a burned flavor, and their customers are too dim to notice
21:18 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzYQBrBFZko this fucking Gov. doesn't want his fingerprints on whats about to blow up...
21:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Unbelievable: Missouri Governor Cant Explain Whos in Charge in Ferguson - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
21:18 <@Dagmar> They _expect_ coffee to taste bitter and nasty, so they buy a lot of things with chocolate sauce and sugar added
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21:19 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Because they're about to have to admit that "the system" is broken
21:20 <@Dagmar> That _corruption_ has taken it over completely.
21:20 < aestetix_> Someone should do an Abott and Costello "Who's in Charge?"
21:20 <@Dagmar> It literally _is_ totalitarianism.
21:20 <@Bahhumbug> I've never even been in a Starbucks.
21:21 <@Bahhumbug> I've drank like 3/4 of a cup of coffee in total across my 48 years.
21:21 <@Dagmar> WEll, next time you're in Nashville I'll take you to Bongo Java
21:21 <@Dagmar> I have been a lot of places since finding out about Bongo, and now have an appreciation of how _bad_ the average cup of coffee is.
21:21 < RangerZ1> aestetix_: forgot to mention this... my friends used to rent an efficiency ~500 sq. ft. 1bedroom 1 bath, for 350$/mo
21:22 <@Dagmar> I have my coffee with two packets of sugar and a small dash of half & half.
21:22 <@Dagmar> ...and that's out of habit.
21:22 < RangerZ1> the aprtment complex had tennis courts, pools, billards tables in the club house
21:22 <@Dagmar> They basically slightly take the edge off without messing with the flavor
21:23 < aestetix_> wow
21:23 < aestetix_> RangerZ1: I hate you
21:24 <@Dagmar> In SF it's like three times that for a drafty single room on the edge of the 'loin
21:24 < RangerZ1> https://www.simco-apts.com/property/boulevard-club-apartments-two-bedrooms/
21:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Boulevard Club Two Bedrooms | Simco (at www.simco-apts.com)
21:24 < RangerZ1> 2bed 2 bath for 715$ a month for ground level
21:25 < RangerZ1> and rent controlled, so price won't ever go up
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21:30 < aestetix_> god
21:30 < aestetix_> you know
21:30 < aestetix_> Nashville seems like an awesome place to live.
21:30 < RangerZ1> its not terrible
21:31 < RangerZ1> i'm not big into live music... but if you are...
21:31 <@oddball> There are definately worse places.
21:31 < RangerZ1> (the rest of 'The South')
21:31 < RangerZ1> lol
21:32 < RangerZ1> but yes... Nashville is really just a Midwestern City that slid south into 'the south'
21:32 < scoob> Everywhere that I've been in the south has said that
21:32 < scoob> "Nah, we're not really the south"
21:32 < scoob> Maybe that means the places I'd have a reason to go to "aren't the south"
21:32 <@Dagmar> "Naw, we ain't really tha' South."
21:33 < RangerZ1> scoob: as an outsider , i looked up statistics before I moved here... lol
21:33 < scoob> I live near ATL
21:33 < scoob> From up north
21:33 < scoob> when people ask
21:33 < scoob> I say I don't live in the south, but I can see it from my place
21:33 <@oddball> scoob: The folks in Atlanta are dirty fucking liars.
21:34 < RangerZ1> people are openly gay, an open BDSM culture, open drag queen shows, and a democratic congressman
21:34 < RangerZ1> lol
21:34 < RangerZ1> atlanta is the other big exception, but it has much more defined racial/social/economic divisions geographicly
21:35 < RangerZ1> the only thing that would really suck from oakland/SF to here....is you HAVE to have a car here
21:35 < RangerZ1> no other option
21:35 <@Bahhumbug> You forgot traffic.  Which is a nukeable offense right there.
21:36 < scoob> I get to drive over the traffic and wave each day
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21:38 <@Dagmar> Atlanta doesn't have traffic.
21:38 <@Dagmar> They just have city-wide yellow flags.
21:38 <@Dagmar> Every day.
21:38 <@oddball> heh
21:38 <@Shadow404> true story
21:38 <@Bahhumbug> hehe
21:38 <@Dagmar> You know, the part of the race where all the cars get within a single car-length of each other and still do 90mph
21:39 <@oddball> And apparently the city planners have a deep hatred of left turn arrows.
21:39 <@Dagmar> I will not go to Atlanta during rush hour
21:39 <@Dagmar> Fuck that
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21:39 <@Dagmar> The interchanges look like something I'd see on LSD and I'm not going to do that shit at 90mph
21:39 <@Dagmar> It'll be completely random where in the fucking city I end up
21:40 < RangerZ1> miami ?
21:40 < RangerZ1> wtf
21:40 < RangerZ1> hehe
21:40 <@Dagmar> Last time I was in Atlanta I yelled "HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE EXITS IN THE MIDDLE GODDAMN LANE?!?"
21:40 < RangerZ1> buffalo has gotten feed of snow today
21:40 < RangerZ1> feet*
21:41 <@Dagmar> Yeah one of the top posts on Reddit is someone saying "I'm going back to bed" with a picture of a backyard full of dunes
21:41 <@Dagmar> At least one of which was probably a barbecue grill
21:42 < RangerZ1> holy fuck... the 'state of emergency' in MO is set to last a MONTH
21:43 <@Dagmar> They know they're in deep shit, and they expect the police on the ground _will_ just make it worse
21:43 < RangerZ1> https://i.imgur.com/3Jb2ZrA.jpg
21:43 < RangerZ1> that was 'this morning' in buffalo
21:43 < RangerZ1> hehe
21:43 <@Dagmar> jesus
21:43 <@Dagmar> I would _move_ the first time I saw shit like that
21:44 <@Dagmar> ...or at least get the fuck out of the city for the weekend, or month
21:44 < RangerZ1> or winter...
21:44 <@oddball> Yeah, but they've got these things called snow plows to deal with that shit.
21:44 < RangerZ1> from oct to april
21:44 <@Dagmar> Doesn't matter.
21:44 <@Dagmar> Snow storms aren't supposed to come in like some shit you see on a hostile desert planet in a sci-fi movie
21:45 <@Dagmar> Like, that's the shit you see a few minutes after a bunch of carniverous megafauna go tearassing by without noticing the expedition.
21:45 < RangerZ1> they aren't?
21:45 <@oddball> And I'd rather have that then the freezing rain we usually get.
21:45 <@Dagmar> Like, polar bears fleeing
21:46 < RangerZ1> feet of snow isn't really as bad as people think
21:46 < RangerZ1> _1 mm of ice_ is much more dangerous
21:46 <@Dagmar> I'll let you know how I feel about that when we see some
21:46 <@Dagmar> 2in of ice is a goddamn time machine
21:46 <@oddball> 'cause 1. at least it's pretty and you can do stuff with snow, and 2. you have a chance in hell of getting traction on snow, while your only hope on ice is vectoring and prayer.
21:46 < RangerZ1> not really
21:46 <@Dagmar> Yes, really.
21:46 <@Dagmar> Just you wait.
21:47 < RangerZ1> it does make a nice effect on the trees when they bend down because of the weight
21:47 <@Dagmar> You weren't here the last time we got that
21:47 <@Dagmar> I was standing outside my gf's apartment on 17th at like 9pm
21:47 <@oddball> god... I hate the years that we get multiple inches of accumulated ice.
21:47 <@Dagmar> Watching flashes in the skyline every few minutes as another transformer exploded
21:47 <@Dagmar> The whole goddamn county pretty much was without power for days
21:48 <@Dagmar> ...because NES lost roughly 80% of the power lines.
21:48 <@Dagmar> What the trees didn't take down, the ice did anyway
21:48 < scoob> Dagmar: I've actually thought about that before. I'll find myself in bumper to bumper traffic then realize I'm going 75+
21:48 <@Dagmar> ...and I don't mean 80% of the circuits, I mean 80% of the _lines_
21:49 <@Dagmar> Like, on a street with ten telephone poles, you could expect to see over half the lines torn off the pole.
21:49 <@Dagmar> acoob: It's fuckin' Darwinian
21:50 < RangerZ1> i've actually been thinking about picking up a small generator and just leaving it out on my balcony
21:50 < RangerZ1> incase the power goes out in a situation like that
21:50 <@Dagmar> Cover it.
21:50 <@Bahhumbug> 2 inches of ice and there aren't any trees to worry about any longer.
21:50 < RangerZ1> yeah
21:50 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, someone will steal that thing the next time there's an ice storm
21:51 <@Dagmar> ...if not before
21:51 <@oddball> yep
21:51 < RangerZ1> the maple trees back home have a nice ability to just 'bend' under that much ice, and not break
21:51 <@oddball> Actually, a power generator should be on my list as well.
21:51 <@Dagmar> The local Home Depot was telling upwards of 100 people a day they had no more generators to sell
21:51 < RangerZ1> oddball: of all places... aldi's... has them cheap
21:51 < RangerZ1> thats why i was thinking about it
21:51 < RangerZ1> 3000w for 100$
21:52 <@Bahhumbug> That's insane.
21:52 <@Dagmar> Hmm...
21:52 <@Dagmar> I'll have to look at my local Aldi's then
21:52 <@oddball> Really... hmmmm...
21:52 <@oddball> I was going to look at Harbor Freight.
21:52 < RangerZ1> my mom got a _deal_ when she found a 25000w for 250$
21:53 < RangerZ1> 2500w*
21:56 < RangerZ1> which came in handy when someone 'stole' my mom's identy and said we owed 1000$s worth of back electricity
21:56 < RangerZ1> and the power company cut our power off... so we just used the generator... and like 10 extension cords... to run what we needed
21:56 < RangerZ1> lol
21:56 <@Bahhumbug> I'm sorry your mom had to go through that.
21:56 <@Bahhumbug> Identity theft sucks.
21:56 <@Dagmar> I'd have to check to see how I could safely connect a genny up to the apartment
21:56 < RangerZ1> the bitch of it is ... its a woman with the SAME name as my mom
21:57 < RangerZ1> someone gave her my mom's SSN
21:57 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: I suspect your complex will frown on that.
21:57 <@Dagmar> I could _probably_ shut off the master breaker at the meter and then connect it to the grid through the stove's outlet
21:57 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Hence, the word "safely"
21:57 <@Dagmar> My landlady has seen me whip out the ammeter on stuff
21:57 < RangerZ1> and since she's only 2 years younger... no one caught it when she opened up accounts all over the country in 'my mom's name
21:58 < RangerZ1> took almost 3 months to straighten out
21:58 < RangerZ1> so we used generator for like 3 weeks...
21:58 < RangerZ1> was kinda amusing... b/c it ended up costing us about the same because we were able to only cool the specific rooms we were in, vs the entire house
21:58 < RangerZ1> lol
21:59 < aestetix_> you know
21:59 < aestetix_> I can tell redditors are young
21:59 < aestetix_> they are all talking about their childhoods reading a book called Captain Underpants
22:01 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: A friend of mine had this identity stolen; it took him _years_ to get everything fully straightened out.
22:01 < RangerZ1> of course they are
22:01 <@Bahhumbug> s/had this/had his/
22:01 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: we were lucky that it was a very low tech attack
22:01 <@Bahhumbug> Many them are _still_ reading _Captain Underpants_
22:01 < RangerZ1> aestetix_: of course 'young' people have time to spend on reddit/online
22:01 < aestetix_> I'd never heard of Captain Underpants until now
22:01 < RangerZ1> b/c they don't have kids
22:02 < RangerZ1> or have old games that work without internet access, and are fun
22:02 < RangerZ1> aka... old RPGs or old platformers, etc
22:13 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71xRFtupZ5k wtf... 4096 bit memory bus bandwidth
22:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: AMD Radeon R9 390X Insane Memory Bandwidth Of 640 GBs & 4096 SPs - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:21 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: wilpig https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1468280928/shards-online-play-by-your-rules
22:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Shards Online: Play by your rules by Citadel Studios Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
22:21 < RangerZ1> i could see you both throwing nice long hours into making custom 'gnomoria-like' castles for people to explore, etc
22:23 <@Dagmar> You mistake us for normal people
22:23 <@Dagmar> You forget we had a minecraft server that devolved into "Crazy Hermit World"
22:24 < RangerZ1> actually i don't have minecraft on _any_ system
22:24 < RangerZ1> so never played it
22:25 < RangerZ1> https://i.imgur.com/a0XnVFu.png
22:25 < RangerZ1> ohh reddit
22:27 < RangerZ1> http://fox4kc.com/2014/11/17/pro-football-player-leaves-behind-37-million-contract-to-become-a-farmer/ this guy probably has millions already...
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22:56 < RangerZ1> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/142464853/hendo-hoverboards-worlds-first-real-hoverboard
22:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Hendo Hoverboards - World's first REAL hoverboard by Hendo Hover Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
22:56 < RangerZ1> holy hell
22:56 < RangerZ1> 463k out of 250k asked
23:03 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLA3fs2A2q4 Bahhumbug rhia this...
23:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: On Immigration, Dems Show What Huge Frightened Asses They Are - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:05 < aestetix_> http://yahoopolicy.tumblr.com/post/97238899258/shedding-light-on-the-foreign-intelligence-surveillance
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23:12 < aestetix_> RangerZ1: it seems like gamergate has settled down a bit?
23:20 < RangerZ1> aestetix_: yes/no
23:20 < RangerZ1> gthe feelings are still there by a lot of people
23:21 < RangerZ1> but even they have realized that nothing is going to happen now, so just keep thos feelings in the back of your mind, and wait for the next chance to pounce on a site for being shitty
23:21 < RangerZ> plus... it shows the problems with a leaderless movement
23:22 < RangerZ> OWS, etc
23:22 < RangerZ> you WILL NOT have success, because the minority of people who are just asshole anarchists will out shine the 1000s/millions of normal people
23:23 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnHGKUh-5O4
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23:24 < RangerZ> aestetix_: the problem with that is long term durability
23:25 < RangerZ> because I was thinking about a solution like that for myself ....less 'castley' though, lol
23:27 < RangerZ> plus insulation
23:27 < RangerZ> aka.. the lack of it...
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23:32 < aestetix_> http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
23:32 < aestetix_> now this is cool
23:32 < RangerZ> yeah been there before
23:33 < RangerZ> the problem with most of these solutions, is that they cut back on insulation, and ...obviously...space
23:34 < RangerZ> plus... I don't like the idea of having to use a ladder to get to my bed
23:34 < RangerZ> I don't see that being viable for elderly
23:34 < aestetix_> I'm thinking for the homeless
23:34 < RangerZ> nah
23:34 < RangerZ> apartments
23:34 < aestetix_> you mean SROs?
23:35 < RangerZ> sure
23:35 < RangerZ> 'efficiency' is what I know them as
23:35 < RangerZ> that 350$ room my friends had, was one of those
23:35 < RangerZ> we were able to fit them and like 6 visitors in the apt
23:40 < RangerZ> I think its Phoenix that just 'gave' homes to homeless, WITH supportive services, and it has helped to 'cure' homelessness
23:42 < RangerZ> HAHAHAHA
23:42 < RangerZ> this japanese game just referred to red heads as gingers
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