--- Log opened Tue Nov 11 00:00:29 2014 00:27 -!- Peaches84 [~terylbrak@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:17 -!- vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:18 -!- vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has joined #se2600 02:47 < RangerZ2> hahah... so apparently ubisoft gave me slightly early access to AC unity 02:47 < RangerZ2> because I complained that I couldn't redeem my code, and setup pre-loading 02:47 < RangerZ2> ~9pm or so, i was able to start install and play, etc 02:47 < RangerZ2> didn't realize it was 'that' early 03:26 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:31 -!- Peaches84 [~terylbrak@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:33 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:35 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:23 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 04:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 04:28 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:35 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:44 < RangerZ> nice... can ping youtube 06:44 < RangerZ> but can't get it to load 06:45 < RangerZ> anyone able to hit google or youtube? 06:46 < RangerZ> I'm able to get SOME webpages... 06:46 < RangerZ> god damn it 06:46 < RangerZ> its fixed already 06:47 < RangerZ> I didn't have time to find any evidence if it was just comcast or wtf 06:47 < RangerZ> I wasn't able to hit google or youtube at all on websites... but i was able to ping 06:47 < RangerZ> and i was able to get to bing and yahoo... 06:50 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 06:52 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:52 <@Bahhumbug> Of course it's comcast. outages@ isn't exploding because cats and searches aren't avilable. 06:52 <@Bahhumbug> available, even 07:18 < RangerZ1> yeah... not perfect yet... 07:18 < RangerZ1> youtube player just stopping for no reason... failing background async loads :/ 07:19 <@Bahhumbug> youtube-dl ftw 07:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:27 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: Didn't even think about that 07:27 < RangerZ1> watching some lectures I'll be verbally tested on later today 07:27 < RangerZ1> lectures and assignments I helped write... but still... best to reveiw 07:28 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpLzMetSJfQ&index=2&list=PLOEwsQ9nr4iQKwzbBy23lr5r5OMC206mX if anyone is curious 07:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Lecture 09: Android Concurrency and Synchronization (parts 4 and 5) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 07:28 <@Dolemite> I have to laugh everytime that I see someone post their Ookla Speedtest results on Comcast... the problem isn't Comcast's pipe out, it's their traffic shaping 07:28 <@Dolemite> It's quite obvious that they leave it wide open to the speedtest hubs 07:29 < RangerZ1> http://www.speedtest.net/ these seemed to actually work well last few days 07:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speedtest.net by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test (at www.speedtest.net) 07:29 < RangerZ1> for pure bandwidth 07:30 <@Bahhumbug> It's more a case that they leave everything wide-open by default and only ratelimit content networks. 07:30 < RangerZ1> but this wasn't a 'bandwidth' issue, it was just not being able to hit google sites 07:31 < RangerZ1> that++ 07:31 <@Bahhumbug> I really hope that some random federal muckity-fuck gets pissed off while trying to watch youtube catporn and calls for an investigation into their policies. 07:31 < RangerZ1> next week I'm calling a former AG 07:31 < RangerZ1> b/c this is BS 07:32 < RangerZ1> and he's not a tech dumbass 07:32 < RangerZ1> so he might be able to get an investigation started in ohio 07:32 < RangerZ1> doesn't help here...directly 07:32 < RangerZ1> but never hurts 07:33 <@Bahhumbug> It will really need to be addressed at the policy level. 07:34 < RangerZ1> even mike dewine as a fucking republican should be against this shit... 'should' 07:35 < RangerZ1> but now that obama has said he has an opinion 07:35 < RangerZ1> republicans have decided that is evil and communist 07:35 < RangerZ1> and fucking asshole ted cruz said net neutrality was "obamacare for the internet" 07:37 < RangerZ1> nvm... gonna contact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cordray 07:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Richard Cordray - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 07:37 < RangerZ1> former OH AG, and now head of CFPB 07:42 -!- notfie-- [~fie@ip68-111-116-14.fv.ks.cox.net] has joined #se2600 07:43 <@Bahhumbug> Speaking of Cruz... you see http://theoatmeal.com/blog/net_neutrality ? 07:44 < RangerZ1> parts of it 07:44 < RangerZ1> i'm going to get off here, too much to do in the next 6hrs 07:44 < RangerZ1> later all 07:45 -!- RangerZ1 is now known as RangerZ|away 07:45 -!- notfie- [~fie@ip68-111-116-14.fv.ks.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:06 -!- RangerZ|away [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:07 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:33 <@Dagmar> Goddamnit 08:34 <@Dagmar> Slashdot has a bullshit "story" on "How to end online harassment" which starts with some major fallacies 08:34 <@wilpig> it is slashdot 08:34 <@Dagmar> I'm seriously considering starting to just jump up and down on the faces of anyone who writes any more inflammatory illogical bullshit 08:34 <@Dagmar> "Gendered bigotry against women is widely considered to be "in bounds" by Internet commenters (whether they openly acknowledge it or not), " <-- NO IT IS FUCKING NOT 08:35 <@Dagmar> Manufacturing a problem is not productive 08:37 <@Dagmar> ...and they're manufacturing a problem to explain the existence of another problem which they are blowing wildly out of proportion 08:37 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm fucking tired of basically being yelled at for the actions of a small minority of people I'd have no problems at all with beating black and blue. 08:53 < aestetix_> uh oh 08:54 < aestetix_> oh wow that article is bad 08:54 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxYJmfjVwqA 08:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bruce Campbell + LYRICS [Official] by PSYCHOSTICK - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 08:55 <@wilpig> while you listen to that, you can read this. http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3320910/tv-ash-vs-evil-dead-series-announced-2015/ 09:01 < aestetix_> you know 09:01 < aestetix_> I hadn't heard anything about gamergate in a bit 09:01 < aestetix_> I was kind of hoping it had ended 09:13 <@wilpig> my coworker just told me he's never seen army of darkness 09:14 <@Dagmar> You should fix that 09:15 <@wilpig> i'm trying to but we hvae work to do this morning. I will likely turn it on at lunch 09:16 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:16 < aestetix_> wilpig: I'll spoil your good looks 09:19 <@wilpig> just realized I don't have that in 1080 yet. fixing now 09:21 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:22 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:28 <@wilpig> lol at bruce campbell. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1643249/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2 09:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Welcome to Purgatory (2014) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com) 09:29 <@wilpig> " 09:29 <@wilpig> Man in Hawaiian Shirt " 09:32 <@Dagmar> http://imgur.com/gallery/tQBZY 09:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: The mane reason for historical differences between lions and humans - Imgur (at imgur.com) 09:33 <@wilpig> I shouldn't have smiled at that 09:34 < aestetix_> I am glad I'm not trans 09:34 < aestetix_> If for no other reason, I would not want to hear girls taking shits in the bathroom 09:34 < aestetix_> Hearing guys take shits is bad enough 09:35 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Yes you should have. THe last image is hilarious. 09:41 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 09:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 09:43 <@benthemeek1> I have never seen army of darkness... 09:44 -!- klixa is now known as klixa11 09:44 * benthemeek1 waves at klixa 09:44 <@klixa11> hey benthemeek1 09:45 <@benthemeek1> How are things with you ? :) 09:45 <@klixa11> still feel sick all the time; it snowed last night so kylie just saw snow for the first time 09:46 <@benthemeek1> oh wow 09:47 <@benthemeek1> Did you put pics up? 09:47 <@klixa11> no, i wrapped a blanket around her and we went on the porch for a second 09:47 <@klixa11> unlike tn, it gets cold here :P 09:52 -!- spaceB0x [~twelton@162.218.105.210] has joined #se2600 10:01 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:04 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:04 -!- spaceB0x [~twelton@162.218.105.210] has quit [Quit: spaceB0x] 10:04 <@Dagmar> Don't worry. We'll remember you said that later this week when it turns 20F and stays there 10:05 <@Dagmar> Last winter it was so fucking cold for a week solid that the atmosphere started precipitating. 10:05 <@wilpig> lol 10:06 < RangerZ> ok... fuck comcast sideways 10:06 < RangerZ> internet keeps just dying for minute or so 10:07 <@benthemeek1> I have one of those rental business comcast modems here and it seems okay atm 10:08 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 10:09 <@oddball> I haven't seen true outages, but I have seen the speeds go suck-tastic off and on over the past couple days. 10:10 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lho2KuFFxe4 he fucking calls out cruz and some others 10:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: GOP Heads Explode Over Obama’s Net Neutrality Announcement - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 10:10 < RangerZ> NSFW 10:10 -!- spaceB0x [~twelton@162.218.105.210] has joined #se2600 10:11 -!- spaceB0x [~twelton@162.218.105.210] has quit [Client Quit] 10:17 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@162.218.105.210] has joined #se2600 10:41 <@Mirage> Holy hell...last night it was in the upper 70's and I was working outside in a t-shirt...this morning, 39 with windchill of 34. 10:46 <@Shadow404> yep, love winter transition 10:53 <@wilpig> Mirage: I thought you moved to texas and were out of the nashville weather roller coaster 10:53 <@Shadow404> so, im not totally hating the new gmail app 10:54 <@shapr> good morning! 10:55 < spaceB0x> good morning to you 11:00 <@Shadow404> diaf shapr and good morning 11:00 * shapr hugs Shadow404 11:00 <@shapr> I moved to Huntsville this past weekend! 11:01 <@shapr> and I went on a field trip to Auburn's fiber engineering research department yesterday evening 11:19 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:21 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:40 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41 <@Mirage> wilpig: lol 11:41 < aestetix_> oh ffs 11:42 < aestetix_> today they are drilling outside the window 11:42 < aestetix_> using.... those street jack things 11:42 <@Shadow404> what is the newest nintendo console? 11:42 <@Mirage> aestetix_: "those street jack things"...lol 11:42 <@wilpig> wii-u or the 3ds xl 11:43 <@oddball> wilpig: No love for the 2DS? 11:43 < aestetix_> Mirage: what are they called 11:43 < aestetix_> I forgot 11:43 < aestetix_> jack hammer or something 11:43 <@Mirage> Jack Hammer maybe? 11:43 < aestetix_> oh heh 11:43 <@wilpig> the 2ds doesn't exist 11:43 <@Shadow404> is that the handhelds or the actual tv consoles? 11:43 <@wilpig> it's a farce. I refuse to acknowledge it 11:44 <@oddball> Shadow404: The 3DS is the handheld, the Wii U is the console. 11:44 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:44 <@Shadow404> one more ?, is wii-u backward compatible to the original wii? 11:45 <@oddball> yes 11:45 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 11:45 <@Shadow404> kool, gf wants that for christmas then 11:45 <@oddball> Although, I'm not sure if there's 100% compatability. I believe they use an emulator. (although, I haven't witnessed any issue) 11:45 <@Shadow404> im pretty sure shes geting me a ps4 11:46 <@oddball> Well, now's a good time to get one. There are actually games worth playing out for it now. 11:47 <@oddball> (Mario Cart 8, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2, and Smash Bros is coming out soon) 11:47 <@Shadow404> yeah, and my ps3 games have been collecting dust since my ps3 got electrocuted 11:47 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47 <@Shadow404> yeah she loves cart and smash bros 11:47 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 11:47 <@Shadow404> thx oddball 11:50 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:55 <@wilpig> oddball: other games worth playing... new super mario bros, pikmin, zombi-u 11:56 <@wilpig> super mario 3d world is amusing but I hate that particlar branch of the franchise 11:56 <@oddball> I should probably give Zombi-U another chance. 12:18 < aestetix_> penis 12:19 <@Mirage> oddball: Vamp-U wasn't as bad as I expected. Zombeavers was waaay worse than my expectations, though. 12:19 <@Mirage> Given the name and the source (wilpig), my expectations weren't high on either of them 12:21 < aestetix_> http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/11/automation-uk-jobs/ 12:22 < aestetix_> "But a new study by professional services firm Deloitte has quantified the rate of destruction for the U.K. jobs market over the next 20 years — predicting that around one-third (35 per cent) of existing jobs across the U.K. are under high risk of replacement via automation over this time period." 12:29 <@oddball> Mirage: Oh wow... I had forgotten about those. 12:34 <@wilpig> Zombbeavers was horrible, but there were boobs 12:34 <@wilpig> I didn't recommend either, mind you 12:34 <@oddball> You don't recommend boobs? 12:35 <@oddball> who are you, and what have you done with wilpig? 12:35 <@wilpig> I recommned boobs anytime, I didn't recommend horrible movies 12:35 <@wilpig> I encourage everyone to grab a boob regularly and if you can get your hands on a pair, by all means motorboat them 12:36 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:36 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:41 <@benthemeek1> aestetix_: down with teh Technologies! 12:43 <@benthemeek1> I wonder if some point if we are going to figure out that humans need to work in order to have purpose and fulfilment, or perhaps we all just become a society of philosophers and artists taken care of by our robot overlords... 12:43 <@Shadow404> fun 12:44 <@Shadow404> can there be sex bots? 12:45 < spaceB0x> Shadow404: If it keeps us docile I'm sure they would allow sex bots 12:46 <@shapr> yay sex bots! 12:46 <@Shadow404> id sign up then 12:51 <@benthemeek1> I guess the closest thing to that now are those real dolls 12:51 <@benthemeek1> I wonder if/when someone is going to study if attachment/dopahmine/oxytocin creates bonds with them 12:52 <@benthemeek1> I doubt it. I don't think our brains could be fooled that easily, but I might be wrong 12:53 <@oddball> I don't know... I've seen some of the shit that happens in Japan. 12:53 < aestetix_> Shadow404: there already are. teledildonics 12:53 <@benthemeek1> Yeah I wouldnt know 12:55 <@benthemeek1> Well with teledildonics a person knows or "believes" that another person is running things somewhere right? but with a robot how is that going to be fullfilling? It would just be another form of masterbation 12:55 <@benthemeek1> so there for sex-bots will not be replacing sexual partners (real ones) ever I think... 12:55 <@benthemeek1> Until AI maybe.. 12:56 <@Shadow404> ai vould develop a bond 12:56 <@Shadow404> could 12:57 <@benthemeek1> but then AI would be programmed to "feel" good 12:57 <@benthemeek1> would that be good enough for our brain or would we not accept the fake 13:00 <@Shadow404> we need to test this 13:00 <@benthemeek1> lol 13:00 <@Shadow404> no really, could be fun 13:01 < aestetix_> benthemeek1: I think a problem lies in conflating leisure with laziness. 13:01 <@benthemeek1> Do you remember that early chat bot that gave therpy back in the 70's I think it was? 13:01 < aestetix_> eliza? 13:02 <@benthemeek1> Maybe, I can't remember. By believing it was real people got real results 13:02 < aestetix_> benthemeek1: that said, a lot of the work we have now is just busywork. There's a lot of cool projects that don't get done. 13:02 <@benthemeek1> yes, eliza 13:04 <@benthemeek1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect 13:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: ELIZA effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 13:04 <@benthemeek1> okay so maybe it wouldnt be hard to get humans to fall in love with a sex bot after all 13:04 < aestetix_> that was.... winograd? or weisenbaum 13:04 < aestetix_> I can't remember 13:05 <@benthemeek1> I'm disappointed in us... :P 13:11 <@klixa11> Her 13:11 <@klixa11> was about that 13:11 <@benthemeek1> I really liked Her 13:12 <@benthemeek1> I'm reading a book by Arthur C. Clark atm where the UN issues cell phones to every 12 year old in the interest of communication and the cell phones have personalities and are your friend for life 13:14 < aestetix_> fucking jackhammer 13:14 <@benthemeek1> Your window provides you with endless frustration is sounds like aestetix 13:15 < aestetix_> it's like a ghetto version of Rear Window 13:15 <@benthemeek1> Does SF have a ghetto section? 13:16 < aestetix_> I live in Oakland 13:16 <@benthemeek1> I figured they demolished everything for expensive housing the way things are there. 13:16 < aestetix_> Are demolishing. Present tense. 13:16 < aestetix_> Thus all the google bus protests and things. 13:18 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:19 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 13:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 13:22 <@Shadow404> benthemeek1: then there was dr. sbaitso 13:23 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:23 <@Shadow404> hows the sex bot project coming everyone? 13:24 < spaceB0x> pretty good, mine is almost finished 13:25 < aestetix_> fucking jackhammer 13:28 <@Mirage> aestetix_: well done, that actually fit into the conversation (loosely) 13:29 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 13:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 13:31 < spaceB0x> correct, although not the sexbot of my personal choice 13:52 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:54 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:55 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11 -!- rattleX is now known as rattle 14:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has quit [Changing host] 14:11 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 14:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 14:11 <@rattle> http://www.gnome.org/groupon/ 14:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Help the GNOME Foundation defend the GNOME trademark (at www.gnome.org) 14:11 <@rattle> What a load of shit. 14:12 <@rattle> Amusingly, http://gnome.groupon.com/ has been DoS'd off the net. Heh. 14:14 < aestetix_> haha 14:16 <@Mirage> "Our counsel has advised us that we will need $80,000 to oppose the registration of the first set of 10 applications." 14:16 <@Mirage> wow...maybe they should enlist the aid of the EFF? 14:25 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@24-181-48-227.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 14:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 14:28 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@24-181-48-227.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 -!- klixa11 [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56 < sasquatc4> free copy of insurgency if anyone wants it: https://www.humblebundle.com/gift?key=cw2CWb2hdDSatrUH 14:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: A very special gift just for you (pay what you want and help charity) (at www.humblebundle.com) 15:08 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:09 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:09 < aestetix_> I think the noises stopped 15:12 <@Dickie> yoink 15:14 < sasquatc4> now just 3 more copies to give away :), saving those first for the bf4 buddies, that copy was my own from the bundle but i already got it 15:25 <@Mirage> wilpig: gonna play WoD? 15:30 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has joined #se2600 15:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:30 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 <@wilpig> Mirage: nope. jay has been hitting me up about it constantly too 15:35 <@wilpig> he said it's alot more like vanilla but they brought in elements of other games to make it do shit while you're offline to make it more casual friendly 15:39 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has joined #se2600 15:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:40 <@Mirage> wilpig: I'm not planning on touching it. Just wondering if you'd changed your mind. 15:53 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-120-12.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 15:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 15:54 <@Catonic> any perl hackers here? 15:54 < aestetix_> no 15:54 < aestetix_> unless you mean perl6 15:55 * opticron points at brimstone 15:55 <@Catonic> I'm having a structural issue understanding this thing 15:56 <@Mirage> Catonic: I've found that problems in perl scripts go away if you just prepend problem lines with # 15:56 <@Catonic> I've got an array loaded with information, but if I pass it to a subfunction, I get an array back... so if my subfunction is to parse a wall of text into an X-Y structure like a spreadsheet... 15:56 <@Catonic> rather... I pass a scalar containing a wall of text to the sub function... 15:56 * brimstone dies 15:57 <@Catonic> then I get an array back... what's the point if I have to reparse the array to reconstitute it/ 15:57 <@Catonic> ? 15:57 <@Mirage> so scalar->function (parsing?)->array 15:57 <@Catonic> correct 15:57 <@Catonic> but I'm possibly wanting to pass an array of arrays back. 15:57 <@Mirage> what are you doing with it? just trying to spit out a csv or something? 15:58 <@Catonic> modularize it and reuse functions because I've got two sources to provide me with a near-identical list of things. 15:58 <@Catonic> each block is separated by a zero-length string, and there's fields dictated by all-caps labels. 15:59 <@Mirage> without seeing it, it sounds like you're making it harder than it probably needs to be 15:59 <@Catonic> So I've got a parser written that gives me back an array of [block#][line#ofblock] 16:02 <@rattle> Why aren't you just passing the reference? 16:03 <@Catonic> rattle: 'cause I'm just learning, and each sucessive stage produces different information 16:03 <@Catonic> rattle: Also, very glad to see you're alive and well. 16:10 < aestetix_> I am reminded of why I like to work at night. There aren't as many noises. 16:20 <@Catonic> lol 16:20 <@Catonic> that's the truth. I get more work done on the weekends and nights thatn during the day. 16:31 <@benthemeek1> Dagmar is presenting tonight at NLUG? 16:31 <@benthemeek1> I am so there 16:32 <@Dagmar> No, I am not. No one told me anything about it. 16:32 <@wilpig> news at all, local crazy woman found dead after meeting about linux 16:32 <@wilpig> s/all/eleven/ 16:32 <@Dagmar> I was somewhat vaguely inquired about it some months back and that was the last I heard. 16:33 <@Dagmar> Catonic: It is generally far easier and much MUCH faster to pass a reference to a complex data structure to a sub, than it is to try and pass the data structure itself. 16:34 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Like, foo(@large_array) will be NOTABLY slower than foo(\@large_array), because the former incurs a copy of the array 16:35 <@Dagmar> ...and it sounds like you should probably step back a moment and learn to use associative arrays (i.e., hashes) by what you've been saying 16:36 <@Dagmar> You shouldn't be "parsing" anything you already have in a data structure 16:39 <@Catonic> ooooh. 16:39 * Catonic experiences incandesence. 16:40 <@wilpig> Dolemite: Catonic escaped from that the xeno-lab 16:40 <@Dagmar> You don't even really have to dereference the array on the other side 16:40 <@Catonic> derezz? =P 16:40 <@Dagmar> $array[5] is just about as easy as $array->[5]. 16:41 <@Dagmar> Yeah, if you wanted to copy the array pointed at by the reference $array back into @array, you'd dereference it with my @array = $@arrayref 16:41 <@Dagmar> ...but it's almost never necessary 16:42 <@Dagmar> for perl to chase down into a data structure by references is actually pretty fast. You have to get fairly complex and deep before it would represent a slowdown 16:42 <@Dagmar> ...and it's only marginally more complex to read and type 16:43 <@Dagmar> Perl's ability to gracefully handle obscenely complex things like hashes of arrays of arrays of hashes of arrays is OMGpower 16:44 <@Dagmar> ...as long as you remember to use exists when looking for a hash key that might not be there 16:44 <@Dagmar> That's like the only thing about hashes that fucks people up 16:45 <@Dagmar> $hashref->{'doesnotexist'} will actually exist the first time you so much as think about it. It will be auto-vivified as undef. 16:45 <@Dagmar> ...as in, it will _create_ a new record in the hash. 16:46 <@Dagmar> However, exists $hashref->{'doesnotexist'} will merrily return false without creating or allocating anything 16:47 <@Dagmar> After the first couple of times, $familyref->{'dad'}->[3]->{'hand'}->{'finger'}->[3] won't bother you anymore 16:49 <@Dagmar> If hand has a zillion parts, you'd even be able to inside a sub do my $hand = $familyref->{'dad'}->[3]->{'hand'} to copy the ref containing the hand parts so you can have perl skipping over the first three element lookups 16:49 <@Dagmar> Well, WITHOUT THE MY tho 16:50 <@Dagmar> *facepalm* 16:51 <@Catonic> I'm thinking mostly arrays at the moment, not hashes. 16:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has joined #se2600 16:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@131.94.186.143] has quit [Changing host] 16:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 16:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 16:52 <@Dagmar> Well, you made it sound like one of your indexes was a string 16:52 <@Dagmar> ...which is where you'd want to be thinking about hashes. 16:52 <@Catonic> it's pretty much all strings, except where it's strings of numbers 16:53 <@Dagmar> ...and as to the MY thing... it would be 50/50. Copying a reference isn't the same as making two variables that point to the exact same memory space 16:53 <@Dagmar> Okay, okay. So that would be an array of hashes 16:54 <@Dagmar> ...since the subitems would be (I hope) unique string tokens 16:54 <@Dagmar> ...and if they're not, you could get really kinky with push() 16:54 <@Catonic> right, so I enumerate into blocks that are separated by a zero-length line, which gives me a block text. 16:55 <@Catonic> except that the last part of the block, following the easily identified field, may contain no preceeding text, but it's merely follow-on from the previously defined section 16:55 <@Dagmar> I don't quite know what you mean by that byt as long as it never means assigning '' to something, you're probably right 16:55 <@Catonic> I can't really hope on everything being unique; it's possible to compare items in list A to list B and have them match. that's the overall idea. 16:56 <@Dagmar> Well, I mean you're not likely to have two "Version:" values in the same stanza 16:56 <@Dagmar> ...you might have two 'Requires:' tho 16:57 <@Dagmar> If you push into an empty, it'll become an array immediately. 16:57 <@Catonic> right 16:57 <@Dagmar> ...but it'll still be accessible as a simple scalar 16:57 <@Dagmar> ...most of the time. 16:57 <@Dagmar> Things get a little weird there. 16:59 < RangerZ1> just use padding of how many characters you had to pad 16:59 < RangerZ1> so 04040404 16:59 < RangerZ1> or 0202 16:59 < RangerZ1> etc 16:59 < RangerZ1> best approach I've found 17:00 < RangerZ1> so 10101010101010101010101010101010 for a full 16 (hex) 17:00 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 17:00 <@Dagmar> This is why we don't trust you people when you say you're going to smash atoms "but it's tewtelly safe" 17:03 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has joined #se2600 17:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 17:04 < aestetix_> penis 17:05 < RangerZ1> what? 17:06 < RangerZ1> its not like I smash Lindsey questions into your face or anything 17:06 * RangerZ1 chuckles over yesterday 17:06 < RangerZ1> lol 17:06 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07 <@wilpig> i'm lost and probably better off that way 17:07 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has joined #se2600 17:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 17:07 <@CRasH180> wilpig: Join the club 17:07 < aestetix_> who is lindsey 17:07 < RangerZ1> someone asked him if he knew what happened to her 17:07 <@CRasH180> lohan? 17:08 < RangerZ1> and Dag said she was actually on her way over to his place, lol 17:08 < RangerZ1> old friend of the groups' 17:08 <@Catonic> oh lord, drama. 17:09 <@Catonic> also, lulz: http://thecodinglove.com/ 17:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: The coding love (at thecodinglove.com) 17:09 < RangerZ1> 10:09PM last night if you wanna find it, lol 17:10 < RangerZ1> just ask the president's chatlogger 17:10 <@CRasH180> I like the "Arguing against a senior developer" 17:12 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@205-186-32-3.generic.c-light.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:12 <@Dagmar> "We should only hire entry-level programmers!" 17:12 <@Dagmar> "Too much experience is a dangerous thing!" 17:13 <@CRasH180> Too much experience is a dangerous thing? 17:13 <@CRasH180> Not enough is worse 17:16 <@Dagmar> Oh i see now 17:17 <@Dagmar> Oh wow. "Friday at 6pm" wins the "The Floor Is Lava" World Championships 17:21 < RangerZ1> http://thecodinglove.com/post/101748028430/joomla-or-wordpress 17:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: The coding love - joomla or wordpress? (at thecodinglove.com) 17:21 < RangerZ1> pn site 17:21 < RangerZ1> lol 17:26 <@Catonic> http://tclhost.com/CFITMCB.gif 17:28 <@Dagmar> The ringtailed whatever it is still is the most impressive to me 17:28 <@Dagmar> I thought "cat panics" were bad 17:31 <@Catonic> oh, the feels 17:42 * aestetix_ sighs 17:59 < RangerZ1> lemur 18:01 -!- spaceB0x [~spaceB0x@162.218.105.210] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 18:06 < RangerZ1> http://thecodinglove.com/post/92709443977/hot-fixing-live-environment this guy almost bought the presidency 18:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: The coding love - hot-fixing live environment (at thecodinglove.com) 18:07 < RangerZ1> just let that cry to you to sleep 18:57 < aestetix_> interesting 18:57 < aestetix_> you can log into twitter with a phone number now 19:00 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:02 < aestetix_> http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/11/confirmed-yahoo-acquires-brightroll/ 19:02 < aestetix_> for 640 million 19:02 < aestetix_> apparently yahoo can't do anything but aquire companies for ridiculous prices 19:02 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@gateway/tor-sasl/k3ymkr] has joined #se2600 19:05 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:24 -!- i2871blh [~i2871blh@c-98-211-6-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:25 -!- i2871blh is now known as bentheIRSSInewb 19:45 -!- i2871blh [~i2871blh@c-98-211-6-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:45 -!- i2871blh is now known as bentheWeeChatNew 19:54 -!- bentheIRSSInewb [~i2871blh@c-98-211-6-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:59 < sasquatc4> hah, and so HR basically just told me to lie, asked them about ecig usage and how it pertains to the tobacco free pledge 20:00 < sasquatc4> they said the official word from cigna is that ecigs to count as tobacco, but if I consider myself tobacco free they will not be verifying the information in any way 20:22 < aestetix_> why do you need to be tobacco free? 20:51 -!- klixa is now known as klixa11 20:54 < aestetix_> so 20:54 < aestetix_> if the KKK is allowing blacks to join 20:55 < aestetix_> what exactly is the KKK about now? 20:59 < aestetix_> it's like there's a jewish branch of the nazis 21:19 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 21:29 < sasquatc4> cause corp health insurance has all this extra shit now 21:29 < sasquatc4> you get like 10$/pay into your health savings account if you pledge to be tobacco free 21:29 < aestetix_> ..... what? 21:30 < sasquatc4> another 10 if you do some health assessment quiz, followed by blood measurements and shit 21:30 < aestetix_> oh jesus do they do drug testing to enforce that? 21:30 < sasquatc4> well thats why i asked, cause they have this thing to take blood and check cholesterol and shit, and i wondered if they checked for nicotine then as well 21:30 < sasquatc4> but HR said they do not check up on the tobacco pledge, so as long as i think i am tobacco free, i am 21:31 < aestetix_> You could also view that as a tax on not giving up personal information 21:31 < sasquatc4> true, i contemplated that as well, not sure if i want to do the blood thing yet or not on those grounds 21:31 < aestetix_> I mean the whole reason for it is it helps them determine if you're a high risk or not 21:31 < aestetix_> where high risk = they have to pay 21:33 -!- aestetix_ is now known as aestetix 22:35 < RangerZ1> who here does NOT think of their cable bill as a utility? 22:35 < RangerZ1> I know I do 22:35 < RangerZ1> at least cable internet 22:36 < RangerZ1> cable tv is just 'ehh' sugar sprinkles on top 22:43 < aestetix> RangerZ1: I think a lot of places consider internet to be a utility now 22:55 < RangerZ1> apparently bush had the FCC reclassify ISPs as NOT utilities 22:55 < RangerZ1> so all obama wants them to do is RE-classify them as they were until ~2003 22:56 < aestetix> so Bush fucked that up too? 23:01 < aestetix> ok this is clever 23:01 -!- bentheWeeChatNew [~i2871blh@c-98-211-6-177.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:01 < aestetix> http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/11/us/stealing-gas-investigation/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 23:08 < RangerZ1> so my friend from the bay area apparently knew the guy who ran silk road 2.0 23:08 < RangerZ1> I asked her if she had any packages from him, lol 23:18 <@Dickie> giggity 23:20 < RangerZ1> https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrink_500_500/p/5/005/052/3cf/139ed24.jpg THIS guy is a drug kingpin 23:20 < RangerZ1> also. lulz of official linkedin picture 23:20 < RangerZ1> lol 23:21 < RangerZ1> ohh look... he hasn't contributed to github recently... 23:21 < RangerZ1> tsk tsk tsk 23:21 < RangerZ1> lol 23:22 < RangerZ1> [the server eventually found to be hosting the Silk Road 2 was registered to (literally) blake@benthall.net] 23:22 < RangerZ1> .... 23:24 < RangerZ1> endorse him on linkedin for 'fun' things 23:24 < RangerZ1> LOL 23:25 < RangerZ1> like how we all endorsed one of the research scientists at ISIS with "HTML" one day.... 23:25 < RangerZ1> he wasn't amused, lol 23:25 < RangerZ1> well he was... but he was upset he didn't think of it first 23:34 < RangerZ1> ok... google inbox is pretty fucking stupid other than the 'delay this email snooze alarm until I say so' feature 23:34 < RangerZ1> just add that to current gmail 23:35 <@eryc> duh 23:35 <@eryc> you should try Wave next i hear its the new everything 23:36 < RangerZ1> wave was a sucess 23:36 < RangerZ1> just as an API not a service 23:36 < RangerZ1> to the point that even office 365 now has that functionality/etc 23:36 < RangerZ1> let alone google docs 23:38 <@eryc> google docs already had that --- Log closed Wed Nov 12 00:00:30 2014