--- Log opened Sat Nov 08 00:00:27 2014 00:06 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 00:08 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:20 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:52 -!- Peaches84 [~terylbrak@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:21 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:22 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:35 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:39 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 07:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 07:58 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 09:40 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:41 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:42 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:56 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 09:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 10:27 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:27 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:21 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 11:42 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 12:08 < aestetix_> I wonder how long you could survive in prison without masturbating 12:09 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:10 <@Dagmar> I wonder how you can be such an idiot. 12:11 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:27 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FgaL0xIazk&list=PLB2vhKMBjSxMK8YelHj6VS6w3KxuKsMvT&index=1 12:27 < aestetix_> this is fucking cool 12:30 <@wilpig> that is a neat idea 13:27 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:28 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:34 < aestetix_> sigh 13:34 < aestetix_> does anyone else have issues being awake during the day? 13:34 < aestetix_> at night I'm wide awake, but the sun kills me 13:35 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:37 < RangerZ> holy fuck... 14hrs of sleep... 13:38 <@wilpig> RangerZ: were you drugged? have you been raped? we're calling the cops now! 13:39 < RangerZ> no its ok... 13:39 < RangerZ> its called ... "catching up on sleep" , I read about it once 13:40 <@wilpig> I'm skeptical. I've heard about GHB and this sounds like it. 13:41 < RangerZ> also big hero 6 was good, saw that yesterday before nashville2600 meeting 13:41 < RangerZ> stupid fucking mini-show beforehand 13:42 <@wilpig> heh 13:42 < RangerZ> and the after credits scene seems to take forever... and is kinda annoying 13:42 <@wilpig> I guess I could og see that today. but meh 13:42 <@wilpig> my entertainment calendar is semi-populated 13:44 < aestetix_> 14 hours is a lot 13:44 < aestetix_> are you sick? 13:45 < RangerZ> possibly, when I'm sick, I tend to sleep it away too 13:46 < RangerZ> could be a sinus infection 13:47 < RangerZ> aestetix_: i was only getting 3~4hrs for days in row at the beginning of this week too 13:48 < aestetix_> well that explains it 13:49 < RangerZ> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/08/doritos-mountain-dew_n_6126102.html 13:49 <@GateKeeper> Title: Doritos-Flavored Mountain Dew Is Real, PepsiCo Confirms (at www.huffingtonpost.com) 13:50 < RangerZ> fuck comcast... 13:50 < RangerZ> i'm down to like .5mbps 13:50 < aestetix_> If someone has a BAC of 0.25, do you take them to a hospital? 13:50 < RangerZ> and "eww" at that flavor 13:50 < aestetix_> Or just make them puke 13:51 < RangerZ> puking doesn't really help 13:51 < RangerZ> b/c its already absorbed 13:51 < RangerZ> alcohol is absorbed within 10 seconds of consumption 13:52 < aestetix_> basically 13:52 < aestetix_> is that a high BAC? 13:52 < RangerZ> yes 13:52 < aestetix_> I don't really drink, so I don't know 13:52 < RangerZ> i think its .5 is instantly lethal 13:52 < RangerZ> .05 is legally drunk 13:52 < aestetix_> ok 13:53 < aestetix_> so 0.25 is not hospital drunk? 13:54 < RangerZ> " Most authorities agree that BACs in the 0.40 percent to 0.50 percent range meet the requirement." 13:54 < RangerZ> for lethal 13:54 < RangerZ> .25 is .... don't fucking let them touch more 13:54 < aestetix_> ok 13:54 < aestetix_> 0.25 is time to go home? 13:55 < aestetix_> alcohol actually makes me kind of sick, so I've never really been drunk 13:55 < RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content 13:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Blood alcohol content - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 13:55 < aestetix_> or let me rephrase, I've been drunk and then gotten *really* sick 13:55 < RangerZ> "StuporLoss of understandingImpaired sensationsPossibility of falling unconsciousSevere motor impairmentLoss of consciousnessMemory blackout" 13:55 < aestetix_> I get no pleasure out of being drunk 13:58 < RangerZ> fucking comcast isn't peering with other ISPs... 13:59 < RangerZ> or SOMETHING 13:59 < RangerZ> b/c even on SPEED TESTS.... I'm only getting 2~3mbps 14:00 <@wilpig> just comcast further letting their existing peering points hit capacity 14:02 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/f7o88u4.gif 14:02 <@wilpig> heh 14:03 < aestetix_> now I want coffee 14:03 < RangerZ> wilpig: thats what I meant... 'properly peering' 14:03 < RangerZ> b/c proper peering requires not letting links get saturated 14:04 < sasquatc3> good to know its not just me, started noticing that yesterday but hadnt looked in to it 14:04 < RangerZ> sasquatc3: I couldn't even watch a 144p youtube video 14:04 < RangerZ> all i wanted was audio anyways... 14:04 < RangerZ> but when it was studdering... and then i saw what resolution 14:04 <@wilpig> expect to see timewarner start to pull that shit more and more as well 14:05 <@wilpig> the two will both pull it to try to lay pressure on congress and the idiots that don't know what they are doing 14:05 < RangerZ> retesting... b/c last one died on me... now .4 14:07 < RangerZ> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3894347710 14:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results (at www.speedtest.net) 14:07 < RangerZ> .49 down and .19 up 14:07 < RangerZ> thats fucking bullshit 14:08 < sasquatc3> well i dont know if its the other link or not, of the 3 servers on mine one is comcast so that doesnt count, one was fine, but the third had a high ping and started slow then got up to full speed 14:09 < sasquatc3> definitely not that bad tho, thats rediculous 14:09 < RangerZ> the test to nashville gives me a whole '3 down' 14:09 < RangerZ> .... 14:15 < RangerZ> sasquatc3: watch if it goes down near 7pm to 11pm too 14:15 < RangerZ> i've noticed that recently 14:15 < RangerZ> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3894354887 14:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results (at www.speedtest.net) 14:15 < RangerZ> to nashville 14:15 < RangerZ> it seems this is the one test they can't QoS cheat at , lol 14:23 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:35 <@wilpig> RangerZ: mine isn't great this morning either. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3894404881 14:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results (at www.speedtest.net) 14:35 <@wilpig> attempting one to comcrap in nashville 14:36 <@wilpig> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3894408676 to comcrap 14:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results (at www.speedtest.net) 14:43 < aestetix_> I swear 14:43 < aestetix_> the bay area is turning me into a republican 15:20 < aestetix_> penis 15:23 < aestetix_> yay weev is back 15:58 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.148.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:27 <@oddball> So... naienko has told me under no uncertain terms that I will not run for an officer's position next month. 16:28 <@oddball> I believe knives and knowing where I sleep were involved. 16:29 < RangerZ2> nice 16:30 <@NotLarry> Dare you! 16:33 <@oddball> Naienko is now threatening to "kick your balls up between your ears" for encouraging me. 16:34 < aestetix_> oddball: what if you were involved in a partial capacity? 16:35 < RangerZ2> I nominate Naienko as president of nashville2600 16:35 < aestetix_> seconded 16:35 <@oddball> Oh... I think she's ok with me being a director of the con. 16:35 < RangerZ2> she probably has more balls than the past presidents 16:35 < RangerZ2> lol 16:35 <@oddball> ha! 16:36 < RangerZ2> oddball: figured you'd like that, hehe 16:38 < RangerZ2> ohh look... comcast decided to fucking not saturate its network.... 16:38 < RangerZ2> 58Mbps/11Mbps 16:38 <@oddball> yay! 16:39 <@oddball> RangerZ2: Problem is that she remembers what happened the last time we had a woman as president. 16:40 < RangerZ2> yeah, but this time we'll tell wilpig to not dress up in skirts and dresses 16:40 < RangerZ2> that might help 16:40 < RangerZ2> lol 16:41 <@wilpig> oddball: she changed jobs, had a life crisis, went nearly insane? 16:42 <@oddball> And then fled the state. 16:42 <@wilpig> the fleeing of the state was a few years after though 16:43 <@oddball> True... but I believe it was a contributing factor. 16:46 < RangerZ2> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/11/08/195255/computer-scientists-ask-supreme-court-to-rule-apis-cant-be-copyrighted 16:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Computer Scientists Ask Supreme Court To Rule APIs Can't Be Copyrighted - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org) 16:46 < RangerZ2> a SCOTUS case that might actually be for good 16:56 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-85-12-252.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 16:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 17:00 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdyoqixegQQ I've said for a while now... that Iran is going to be our closest middle east alley at some point in the future... b/c they really are some of the most liberal in views 17:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: Anti-Gay But Pro-Transgender, Iran Encourages Gender Reassignment Surgery - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 17:01 < aestetix_> ...... 17:01 < aestetix_> wtf? 17:10 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-85-12-252.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: alley? Seriously? 17:11 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-85-12-252.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 17:15 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-85-12-252.dhcp.buft.sc.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:26 < RangerZ2> Bahhumbug:allie*, yeah , once we 'get over' oil 17:26 < RangerZ2> mother fuck 17:27 < RangerZ2> allies* 17:28 < RangerZ2> right now we're basically fighting suadia arabia's version of islam in ISIS 17:28 < RangerZ2> wahabi (sp?) 17:33 < aestetix_> the problem with having cats is you can't blame them for farts 17:46 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: the 'west' has always allied with one sect of islam, vs the other 17:47 < RangerZ> and I can easily frosee us switching (or to the turks taking over again large portions of the region 17:47 < RangerZ> foresee* 17:47 < RangerZ> (only as a possibility, not fortune telling...obviously) 17:50 < aestetix_> penis 17:54 < aestetix_> wow 17:54 < aestetix_> there is a reddit thread about IBS causing issues during sex 17:59 < RangerZ> your /r/ thread watch list... gods help us 18:00 <@Bahhumbug> /ignore *!*@173.203.* is your friend 18:02 < RangerZ> jesus... he's even infecting MY youtube stream 18:02 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqosU3cI-Gs 18:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: Far Cry 4s Penis Scene - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 18:03 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-10-114.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15 -!- rhia [~rhia@50-47-10-114.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 18:32 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 18:34 * oddball goes after chainsaw designer and beats them with their chainsaw. I would chopped them up with it, but the start directions are too fucking complicated. 18:35 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:35 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:36 <@Dagmar> LOL Nick Frost! 18:40 <@wilpig> monty python expanded the penis song 18:40 <@wilpig> they added a whole new verse about having a vag 18:57 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:59 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:00 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:00 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@c-98-193-176-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:00 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@c-98-193-176-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 19:00 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 19:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 19:02 -!- GateKeeper [~gatekeepr@serentos/support/bot] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02 -!- GateKeeper [~gatekeepr@serentos/support/bot] has joined #se2600 19:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GateKeeper] by ChanServ 19:03 -!- kive_ [sid19953@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-adssdrradvpebbdm] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:04 -!- kive_ [sid19953@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndnvsvvrrlwfsrou] has joined #se2600 19:43 <@oddball> God damnit... Xorg/mate just went fuck off again. 19:44 < RangerZ2> did they decide to go on a picnic together? 19:44 < RangerZ2> with a nice picnic basket, a blanket, some tea 19:45 <@oddball> Well, I don't know which specifically screwed the pooch. It's one of them. 19:47 <@oddball> back in a minute. Rebooting this fucker. 19:47 < RangerZ2> http://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-reveals-big-changes-coming-in-starcraft-2-legacy-of-the-void/ 19:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: Blizzard reveals big changes coming in StarCraft 2: Legacy of the Void - PC Gamer (at www.pcgamer.com) 19:49 <@wilpig> wtf blizzard 19:49 <@wilpig> a new starcraft game and they still haven't finished sc2 19:49 <@Dagmar> Let me guess 19:49 <@wilpig> they've now announced two new games 19:50 <@wilpig> the new franchise is interesting but I don't care for FPS so fuck that 19:50 <@Dagmar> In addition to gender, they're adding orientation and self-identification sliders to character creation? 19:50 <@wilpig> guess I should get up and put my apples in the fridge. I gotta pick up a new vacuum sealer tomorrow after work 19:52 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkJnd9rSAQ8 19:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Monty Python - Sit on My Face w/subtitles - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 20:00 < RangerZ2> thats the 3rd part of the SC2 trilogy 20:02 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: if you really wanna be a prick... make the sliders be there, but not have them usable 20:02 < RangerZ2> so if you pick male, you show that they are 'cis straight' , etc 20:02 < RangerZ2> "ohh look, we DID think about it, but we decided to say Fuck You with it" 20:02 < RangerZ2> lol 20:04 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 20:05 <@wilpig> RangerZ2: that's clearly not 20:05 <@wilpig> it says the previous two arent' required 20:05 <@wilpig> that's bliz saying fuck you for the last part 20:06 <@oddball> I really don't want to rebuild this machine... 20:07 <@wilpig> hit it with a hammer 20:07 <@wilpig> that fixes everything 20:09 <@Bahhumbug> Use a distro that's not a joke? 20:09 <@Bahhumbug> Just a suggestion. 20:10 < RangerZ2> wilpig: thats blizz saying 'fuck we need to get new people to join, and not exclude those who didn't buy the first two... b/c SC is going to be around for a long time...' 20:10 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: What did we tell you.... [At 4:53 a.m. on Nov. 8, a phishing email was sent from an internal Vanderbilt email account to a large number of Vanderbilt users. The sender claimed that the email was a “Vanderbilt ITS Important Notification.” The phishing email requested that recipients click on two links in sequence and provide email addresses, usernames and passwords.] 20:10 < RangerZ2> stop trolling 20:10 < RangerZ2> lol 20:12 <@Bahhumbug> Use it to weed out the stupid. Anyone that clicked gets booted from the Uni. 20:12 <@wilpig> Ongoing Incident: High Number of DMCA Takedown Requests Due to Audio Posts 20:13 <@wilpig> We are currently receiving a high number of DMCA takedown requests due to a leak of the new "One Direction" album. 20:14 <@oddball> Oh... look at that... I'm running a system 2 versions behind. 20:15 < RangerZ2> wow... MS posting a relatively high level job... without it requiring 800 years of experience in 100 different topics 20:15 < RangerZ2> lol https://careers.microsoft.com/jobdetails.aspx?ss=&pg=0&so=&rw=1&jid=163425&jlang=EN&pp=SS 20:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Microsoft Careers: My Job Details (at careers.microsoft.com) 20:15 < RangerZ2> BS in CS, and 5+ years for senior level dev, which... is approprirate 20:15 < RangerZ2> appropriate* 20:18 <@wilpig> monty python puts on a hell of a stage show 20:21 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:44 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@96-36-253-186.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 20:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 21:33 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@96-36-253-186.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@96-36-253-186.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 21:50 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@96-36-253-186.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:16 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 22:37 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 22:43 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 22:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 23:00 < sasquatc4> RangerZ, do they not normally have those specs? 23:01 < sasquatc4> still wonder what they qualify as 'software engineering: test' 23:01 < sasquatc4> if its a test engineer, those are still rediculous requirements 23:14 <@oddball> well, fuck. I think my water heater just failed on me. 23:14 <@wilpig> cold shower? 23:15 <@oddball> water was coming out of the vent at the top. Quick google search shows that that probably means I've got a leak... which of course can't be repaired because OMG pressure. 23:16 <@Bahhumbug> It's not worth repairing; get a new unit with better efficiency and a good warranty. 23:16 <@oddball> Oh, if it's a leak, I *can't* get it repaired. 23:17 <@oddball> the pressure inside of a water heater is entirely too much for a patch job. 23:22 <@Bahhumbug> Depends on type of heater and what is actually leaking. Generally if it's pressure relief or the fittings on the cold inlet or hot supply those can be replaced. But nay leak is just signs of future issues. 23:23 <@Bahhumbug> We had to replace ours last year when the we noticed a slow leak around the hot supply. Pain in the ass considering its location in the garage but well worth it from a long-term cost savings. 23:24 <@Bahhumbug> Oh. And plumbing sucks. Just sayin' 23:26 <@oddball> It's not coming from the cold or hot pipes. 23:27 <@oddball> It's actually coming up from the gas vent. 23:27 <@Bahhumbug> Eww... gas. 23:27 <@Bahhumbug> Yer screwed :) 23:28 <@oddball> good news is that it looks like there's not a huge price difference between a new tank and a tankless system. The big question is how much I'll get fucked on the install charge. 23:29 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not a fan of tankless designs based on what I've seen at my bro-in-law's. 23:29 <@Bahhumbug> Sample sets of one aren't really useful, but... 23:29 <@oddball> oh? 23:30 <@Bahhumbug> His may have been installed improperly but I don't see it being efficient. 23:30 <@Bahhumbug> I've done no research at all on the subject and like I said, sample set of one. 23:31 <@oddball> As in his bills didn't go down? 23:31 <@Bahhumbug> New home so there was no way to track that. 23:32 <@Bahhumbug> I've taken a couple showers over there and it wasn't a constant hot water supply; temperatures dropped down and then shot back up. 23:33 <@Bahhumbug> constant _temperature_ how water supply I should say. 23:33 <@oddball> ah, ok 23:33 <@oddball> Of course, that might be a case of him not getting a powerful enough unit. 23:34 < sasquatc4> thats what ive heard too 23:34 <@Bahhumbug> That's possible. But as the only one consuming water at the time I would have expected better results. 23:34 < sasquatc4> when we first moved in here ~3 years ago i replaced the water heater and was debating on going tankless, but back then it was 2-3x the cost of a normal one and from what i read it wasnt that huge a return on investment 23:34 < sasquatc4> but ive talked to some friends who have had them and tried them and they said the same 23:34 < sasquatc4> even if you get a properly sized unit it still doesnt feel like enough 23:35 <@oddball> hmmm... that's disapointing. 23:35 <@Bahhumbug> I will likely stick with tank designs. If you add some additional insulation to the units they shouldn't run often. Plus out in the boonies so it's all electrical out here. 23:36 <@Bahhumbug> (Bro-in-law had a gas line run specifically for that tankless heater; something that makes me chuckle) 23:36 <@Bahhumbug> He's the _sole_ gas consumer in the area. 23:37 <@oddball> damn 23:37 <@Bahhumbug> To clarify. Lots of people have propane tanks for gas-powered fireplaces and such, but no one but him has an LPG run to the house in the area. 23:44 <@oddball> Oh, the "damn" was for paying for a line ran to his house. 23:52 <@Bahhumbug> I recall him saying he got a really good deal on that; I suspect it was a case of the utility in question wanting to push LPG in the area. 23:53 <@Bahhumbug> But as he's about 1/6th of a mile or so back from the road It was probably still a healthy chunk out of pocket. --- Log closed Sun Nov 09 00:00:28 2014