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04:32 < aestetix> Jagobah: are you the one who knows Kaly?
04:47 < aestetix> I wonder if the term "magic wand" is a reference to penises
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07:52 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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10:20 < RangerZ1> fuck TN
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10:20 < RangerZ1> "Privilege Tax"
10:20 <@oddball> ?
10:20 < RangerZ1> registering my car down here
10:21 <@oddball> ah... the wheel tax
10:21 < RangerZ1> i get the fact it needs taxed, etc
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10:21 < RangerZ1> but calling it that...
10:21 <@Dolemite> You need a post office box to live in out in some rural county.
10:22 < RangerZ1> actually you can "live" out of a USP store location
10:22 < RangerZ1> they are technically 'appartments'
10:22 < RangerZ1> not PO boxes
10:23 <@opticron> that's...neat
10:23 < RangerZ1> my mom has her residency out of one
10:23 < RangerZ1> saved her 2.5% city tax
10:23 < RangerZ1> plus, she's moving
10:23 <@oddball> Yeah... you can get a "real" address from the UPS store.
10:23 < RangerZ1> (which is the real reason, but nice side benefit)
10:25 <@oddball> RangerZ1: The wheel tax and the gas tax used to be the sole funding of TDOT.  Worked well until the state legislature decided to move that money to the general funds so they could spend it on other things.
10:25 < RangerZ1> yeah, as it goes
10:25 < RangerZ1> Ohio is the same
10:25 <@Dolemite> Which we apparently decided was a good thing, because we love incumbents more than anything in this state!
10:25 <@oddball> Similar to our state parks being funded by hunting/fishing licenses and a bullet tax.
10:26 <@oddball> Dolemite: Yeah... I love the meme currently going around asking how a congress that has a 10% approval rating gets a 90% re-election rate.
10:26 <@Dolemite> It's mind boggling
10:26 < RangerZ1> our "fiscially conservative" republican gov. Kasich did that... and decided to lease our turnpike to the UAE sheiks for 99 years, and sell the state owned liquer agency to them too... so he could balance the budget that gave tax breaks to the top 5%
10:27 <@wilpig> Dolemite: KY is a perfect example of that.  There was even a picture posted of someone making a scowling face at mitch at the poles and the fucker still got reelected
10:27 <@wilpig> granted he won by a small margin but that's how it always is. 53%
10:27 <@Dolemite> People think I'm a Democrat because I don't vote for the Republicans...   actually, I'm an anti-incumbent, it's just that all of them were Republicans on my ballot
10:28 <@wilpig> I'm registered democrat but meh
10:28 < RangerZ1> Americans on the whole are center left, but they don't like the brand the democrats have (b/c GOP are better at marketing)
10:28 <@Dolemite> I'm not registered with any party
10:28 <@Dolemite> They're both practically the same, anyway
10:28 < RangerZ1> look at the ballot initiatives that passed, vs who they voted for
10:28 <@oddball> Good news is that they mere discussion of creating a toll road in TN resulted in the villagers getting the torches and pitchforks out of the closet a few years back.
10:28 < RangerZ1> raised min. wage in 4 of the "most red" states
10:28 <@oddball> Dolemite: I'm damned glad that TN doesn't require you to register with a party.
10:29 <@Dolemite> Yeah, no shit
10:29 < RangerZ1> legalized pot everywhere a billionaire didn't spend millions of dollars (FL, shadon adelson(sp?)) to confuse the issue ... and there it still got 53%, but needed 60%
10:29 <@Dolemite> But I hate that you have to pick one during primaries
10:30 <@Dolemite> You can't choose per seat which you'd like to vote on
10:30 < RangerZ1> primaries are suppose to be 'for party members only'
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10:30 < RangerZ1> *twirls finger*
10:31 <@oddball> I'm pretty sure there's a lot more folks that believe that two guys should be able to get married while carrying guns on their hips and celebrate by toking up than either party is willing to admit.
10:31 <@Mirage> What about girls?
10:32 <@Dolemite> Well I did my part and voted Republican in the primary so that I could prevent Stacey Campfield from being on the November ballot
10:32 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Reminds me how I have a few friends that called bullshit that that measure didn't pass because it didn't get 60% of the vote but got the majority, but were upset that TN passed the anti-abortion amendment by a similar margin.
10:33 < RangerZ1> personally I'm leaning more and more towards a parlimentary system
10:33 <@oddball> FOr the record, I think there should be a super majority to amend the state's constitution.
10:33 < RangerZ1> it doesn't?
10:33 < RangerZ1> thats fucking stupid
10:33 <@Dolemite> Yeah, same here - should take a supermajority
10:33 <@oddball> Mirage: Sure, them too. :)
10:33 <@Dolemite> It takes a supermajority in legislature to make it on the ballot, and a simple one by voters to make it pass, if I recall correctly
10:34 <@oddball> Nope.  Amendment 1 passed with something like 53 or 54%
10:34 <@Dolemite> It's the legislators that are the primary retards
10:34 <@Dolemite> oddball: It does take a majority, at least, and not just a plurality
10:34 < RangerZ1> w/e I think TN still has the state constitional parts about slavey
10:34 < RangerZ1> slavery*
10:34 < RangerZ1> so who cares, lol
10:34 <@oddball> And then there's the fun thing that it actually takes less votes in the legislature to override a veto in this state.
10:34 < RangerZ1> state const. are always fucked
10:35 <@wilpig> wait a sec here.  you can have slaves in tn still?
10:35 <@Dolemite> Well it's overridden by federal law
10:35 <@oddball> nope... he's thinking of Mississipi, I think.
10:35 < RangerZ1> yeah, it didn't matter legally
10:35 <@wilpig> http://www.wired.com/2014/11/operation-onymous-dark-web-arrests/
10:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Global Web Crackdown Arrests 17, Seizes Hundreds Of Dark Net Domains | WIRED (at www.wired.com)
10:36 <@benthemeek> Will any of you be at the meeting tonight?
10:36 <@oddball> I'm planning on being there.
10:36 <@benthemeek> Nashville local I mean
10:36 < RangerZ1> we'll see, might still be in DMV lines...
10:36 <@oddball> Trying to decide on whether you're going to show up or not?
10:36 <@benthemeek> I have been reading the by-laws and it behoves me to say that this is the last meeting in which a member can pay their dues to vote in december
10:37 <@benthemeek> or if you attend phreaknic it couns as the same thing
10:37 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: we were told that the bylaws aren't binding
10:37 < RangerZ1> ;)
10:37 <@benthemeek> yes I know but its a catch 22
10:37 <@Dolemite> The by-laws are binding until a new set are filed with the TN Secretary of State.  *cough* *cough*
10:37 < RangerZ1> ...that was said... so we can't kick out the president... but he didn't realize that would make him _not_ the president if the bylaws weren't legal
10:37 < RangerZ1> lol
10:37 <@oddball> I know there was a question of whether I already paid or not, but I've got my PN badge.  Does that count? :p
10:38 <@benthemeek> We are talking to chris cummings about getting them up, but I am trying to follow the intent on founders *cough* Scott *cough*
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10:38 <@Dolemite> So whether they've been changed, voted on, and passed, doesn't matter until the Secretary of State sees the copies
10:38 <@benthemeek> of*
10:38 <@benthemeek> yeah I think you are good oddball
10:38 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: are you eating the intents off him laying there? like the naked girls with sushi?
10:39 <@oddball> I'm trying to remember when the new bylaws were voted on.  I know they were presented.
10:39 < RangerZ1> hehe... (get that image out of your mind now)
10:39 <@benthemeek> :P
10:39 < RangerZ1> oddball: they never were
10:39 < aestetix> penis
10:39 <@oddball> Ok.  Just checking. :)
10:39 < RangerZ1> b/c we have to present them 3 months in a row
10:39 < RangerZ1> and each month we found more issues
10:39 <@oddball> Right.
10:39 <@benthemeek> Yeah the discussion was tabled so we could do the con
10:39 < RangerZ1> b/c we didn't give it to a lawyer in the first place
10:39 <@Dolemite> present 2 months and vote in the 3rd
10:39 <@benthemeek> Rangerz: right
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10:40 <@oddball> I remember there was one meeting that they tried to claim that discussing that they should be changed counted as presenting the new bylaws.
10:40 <@benthemeek> Well I have had the internal discussion with the officers on this, and I am trying to follow the existing ones until we get the others to present
10:41 <@oddball> Which is the proper thing to do.
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10:41 <@wilpig> just disolve the corp and be done with it
10:41 <@benthemeek> I think so. I am doing my best to fix the problems last year this year
10:41 <@benthemeek> and that includes communicating stuff like hey we have to have an election in december etc
10:42 <@benthemeek> wilpig: I truly like phreaknic
10:42 <@oddball> And, for the record, if I'm remember them correctly, I don't have any issues with the proposed new ones.
10:42 <@benthemeek> that is no reason to make it go away, we can fix this
10:42 <@wilpig> benthemeek: then let dru run it the way he wants
10:42 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: Also YOU preside over the elections as Secretary.  Not Mein Fuhrer.
10:42 <@wilpig> get rid of the burder of the non-profit
10:42 <@benthemeek> The non-profit is the right direction though
10:43 < RangerZ1> wilpig: thats his gimmick, b/c he thinks he'll get funding b/c of non-profit
10:43 <@benthemeek> We just need a lawyer to sign off on the stuff
10:43 < RangerZ1> but all the legal needs to be fixed first
10:43 <@wilpig> I know he wants the non-profit for the funds.
10:43 <@oddball> Yeah... it makes sense to have a non-profit for running the con.
10:43 <@Dolemite> Well in the current environment it would be near impossible to get 501(c)3 status on a new corporation.
10:43 <@wilpig> but he wants to run it his way wihtout the input from others without any thought into what he's doing.
10:43 <@oddball> right
10:44 <@benthemeek> Wait wait are you saying that you think Dru is trying to get funds *personaly* from the organization?
10:44 <@wilpig> that's reckless and no consequence to him personally
10:44 < RangerZ1> Dolemite: thats not really true, IRS still doesn't block them
10:44 <@benthemeek> I can assure you Tilghman is not letting that happen
10:44 <@wilpig> he's using the organization as a shield from personaly responsibility
10:44 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: I never said that, I said he wants to get funds b/c of the non-profit statis
10:44 < RangerZ1> status*
10:44 <@benthemeek> Well that is true
10:44 < RangerZ1> wilpig: thats how you're suppose to use a corp
10:44 < RangerZ1> lol
10:44 <@oddball> The calls of "well, then you should come to the meeting that we never announce" thing really pissed me off.
10:44 <@benthemeek> I think more organizations will see us as less predatory as a non profit
10:44 < RangerZ1> see: every corp. in existence
10:45 <@wilpig> the corp is a shield for personal liability not responsibility
10:45 <@benthemeek> oddball: I know. I will fix it
10:45 < RangerZ1> you can't have responsibility without liability ;)
10:45 <@wilpig> run for pres and fix it
10:45 <@benthemeek> I know some methods are wrong, but everyone's hearts are in the right place I think
10:45 < RangerZ1> see: every CEO in existence
10:45 < RangerZ1> hehe
10:45 <@benthemeek> If I can just keep everyone from demonizing the other side we will be good
10:46 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: haha
10:46 <@benthemeek> There needs to be more transparency
10:46 <@benthemeek> I will make sure I communcate this stuff better
10:46 <@wilpig> get rid of your conspirators and then you can get back to harmony
10:46 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: You're right.  Nashville 2600 Corporation was founded to put on two half assed conventions instead of one good one; and the President gets to make unilateral decisions about where to focus energies and the best ways to alienate those who have supported it for the past 10 years.  That's TOTALLY in the by-laws.
10:46 <@NotLarry> I was being transparent and she tol dme to put my clothes back on.
10:46 <@benthemeek> My conspirators do all the work, I need them ;)
10:47 <@oddball> You thinking of stepping up for the prez position?
10:47 <@wilpig> benthemeek: step up and take charge and we'll support you with teh bits you don't know
10:47 <@benthemeek> oddball: No I really liked what Dru brought to phreaknic this year. But I think he needs more help communicating to the community
10:48 < RangerZ1> benthemeek: Strife?
10:48 < RangerZ1> discord?
10:48 <@Dolemite> Dru is a HORRIBLE leader.  He may have some interesting ideas, but his report card shows "Doesn't work well with others"
10:48 <@benthemeek> Those words remind me of my religious heritage.. <g>
10:48  * scoob notes down to make a Priest of Discord costume for Halloween next year
10:48 <@Mirage> I wish I'd been there so I could chime in on this bit...
10:48 <@oddball> benthemeek: I would much rather someone like you be in charge and let Dru be an idea guy.
10:48 <@wilpig> You need people that bring ideas, but you can't have people bringing in ideas of conspiracy against them trying to lead
10:49 <@oddball> ++
10:49 <@Dolemite> What oddball said
10:49 <@benthemeek> I think this is something we all see though. The idea guys need recognition.
10:49 <@wilpig> they can be promoters but they make shit leadesr
10:49 <@wilpig> look at skydick
10:49 <@wilpig> great promoter, horrible leader
10:49 < RangerZ1> thats what I've said from day one... let dru be the evangelist
10:49 <@wilpig> couldn't designate anything and then laid the blame everywhere
10:50 <@benthemeek> Well it takes a team I think, and frankly you spoiled us wilpig the past couple years
10:50 <@wilpig> that isn;t the case
10:50 <@wilpig> I did what had to be done.  we still needed to advertise more
10:50 <@wilpig> and that was said all along
10:51 <@benthemeek> Well just like with Trevor, there needs to be an organizer who dots the i's and crosses the t's that works with him
10:51 <@Mirage> Does he have an official title "Evangelist" as well as the multitude of others?
10:51 <@wilpig> the only thing I didn't do was make excuses.  if something needed to be done I made sure it got done
10:51 <@wilpig> if nobody else stepped up, so be it.
10:51 <@wilpig> a better leader would have motiveated someone else to step up
10:51 <@benthemeek> Well I am all for letting the person with connections be the president
10:52 <@benthemeek> he just needs more administrative support
10:52 <@benthemeek> Im going to try and step that up
10:52 <@wilpig> he didn't need more support
10:52 <@wilpig> he needs meds
10:52 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: grow a pair of balls and run for President.  You will have support.
10:52 <@benthemeek> It was a travesty that this community has nearly been split again over this so Im gonna try and fix it
10:52 <@oddball> See... you're giving Dru a lot more credit in the "willing to work with others" department than the rest of us.
10:52 <@wilpig> you can't do it from a subordinate role
10:52 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: With Dru in charge, it won't be fixed.  It will be cauterized.
10:53 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: I don't want to alienate the group that is with Dru
10:53 <@oddball> You mean crazy pants?
10:54 <@benthemeek> no I mean, elonka, Les, Alan from free sides, Keith Watson
10:54 <@wilpig> either they are in it for the organization or they'r ein it for dru
10:54 <@wilpig> one is phreaknic one is dru
10:54 <@benthemeek> Those people would of never shown up if it hadnt been for how hard dru worked on that
10:54 <@oddball> I seriously doubt any of them would be unwilling to come if Dru wasn't in charge.
10:54 <@benthemeek> I think we need those people
10:54 <@wilpig> elonka has been omcing for years
10:54 <@wilpig> les, alan, and keith...  all recruits.  that's what an evangelist should be doing
10:54 <@wilpig> bringing in people
10:55 <@wilpig> NOT because he's the "leader" but because eh's selling the idea
10:55 < aestetix> I wonder if the bay area bubble is starting to burst
10:55 <@benthemeek> Its all about relationships though and Dru has relationships that bring in good speakers and stuff
10:55 <@oddball> He also drove a number away.
10:56 <@benthemeek> wilpig: But there is no title for evangelist, and if it means making the evangelist president  thats fine with me as long as phreaknic continues
10:56 <@Dolemite> He deliberately drove some away, and others simply didn't come because he refused to communicate in the established channels that had been used for the past 10 years
10:56 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: It will not continue with him in charge.  It may not happen in the next year, but it would happen soon.
10:57 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: If someone steps up and shores up his weaknesses I think it wont be an issue.
10:57 <@benthemeek> I could be wrong, but Im beting on it
10:57 <@wilpig> benthemeek: you also have to admit you had less speakers this year than in years past and that was partly because he focused purely on his contacts and not the previously established relationships
10:58 <@benthemeek> My biggest battle internally is making sure that this group *gestures at the channel* is seen as a part of the community and not someone that just wants phreaknic to die
10:58 <@wilpig> he doens't have to be the president to bring in speakers.  he does NOT need to be in charge and he has shown that
10:58 <@wilpig> the only people that think this group wants it to die should be on medication
10:59 <@wilpig> you just had three people pointing out the problems and offering suggestions to correct the issues
10:59 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: Don't ever go to Vegas.  You bet on horrible odds.
11:01 <@Dolemite> At this point I know that I am more likely to go to SkydogCon next year than PhreakNIC if Dru is still in charge.
11:01 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: :(
11:01 <@oddball> damn... that's cold.
11:01 <@benthemeek> Why is that if I fix the problems with communication though?
11:02 <@oddball> I still won't go to that con (if nothing else, pretty sure Naienko would kill me), but GMX would definately be on the list.
11:02 <@oddball> benthemeek: We don't believe that you would be able to do that.
11:02 <@benthemeek> Is this just a personality conflict or a real failing by him to do something that needs doing
11:02 <@oddball> Unless you were actually in charge.
11:02 <@Dolemite> You want to know the major isse?
11:02 <@Dolemite> issue
11:02 <@Dolemite> Dru was a SHITTY organizer when he ran PhreakNIC 1-4
11:03 <@Dolemite> He left town without handing anything over to anybody else, and when I constantly tried to get him to even pass along contact information, I got crickets
11:03 <@oddball> Well, I could cite his statements of sending multiple emails to Hypericon folks... emails which straight up do not exist.
11:03 <@Dolemite> PhreakNIC persisted and grew DESPITE him, not because of him
11:03 <@wilpig> benthemeek: the fix to the problems with the community is to remove the person that caused them
11:03 <@Dolemite> And yet every year he would get up and say that he let it in good hands
11:04 <@Dolemite> Bull fucking shit.  He dropped the mic and walked away.
11:04 <@wilpig> oddball: you could cite him emailing me for shit too
11:04 <@oddball> He would also, every year, try to convince the person at registration that he didn't have to pay to get in.
11:04 <@wilpig> Dolemite: while simultaneously asking for free entry each year and peddling old shirts
11:05 <@Dolemite> He can't be trusted to change.  He has proven over and over to be the disconnected, unreliable, antagonistic personality that he has accused most of the #se2600 channel of being.
11:06 <@benthemeek> I dont know what really happened then, I just know that I can apply pressure and get the things communicated that need to be now. If Dru isnt a good leader you need a cyborg one that is a blend of multiple people doing things. For what it is worth if Dru didnt want to do it I would throw my name in rather than see phreaknic end
11:06 <@wilpig> benthemeek: if you need more to look at, ask him where the list of previous speakers is that I gave him. and ask why he didn't contact any of them to speak this year
11:06 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: You can't do shit from the Secretary position.
11:07 <@wilpig> he's going to say he did, ask to see the outgoing email in his sent item
11:07 <@benthemeek> I can be a Secretary and make sure that list gets called like real secretarys do
11:07 <@benthemeek> I was ready to quit 4 months ago, but I think I want to double down now
11:07 <@wilpig> run for president, stand up and take the initiative.
11:07 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: Either run for President or bow out
11:08 <@wilpig> then you will be in a position to bring people together
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11:08 <@Dolemite> Dru burned the bridges.  It takes new leadership to build them back.
11:08 <@oddball> yep
11:08 <@Mirage> benthemeek: I think that you stating that you now know you can "apply pressure" to get things done is exacctly the point.   You shouldn't have to...
11:09 <@Dolemite> And on that note I'm heading to Hardee's to shove a big juice cheeseburger into my piehole.
11:09 <@oddball> Sounds like a plan.
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11:12 <@wilpig> damnit Dolemite.  I miss biscuits and gravy from hardees
11:13 <@benthemeek> I know it sounds like CEO-speak, but there is no I in team and all that. I would like to try it my way of trying to help Dru in the areas he needs help with, rather than try and find a replacement.
11:13 <@benthemeek> wilpig: they have a friend balogna with valveta biscuit now
11:13 <@benthemeek> velveta*
11:13 <@oddball> Problem is that Dru very much believes that there is a big I in there... and that's the only letter that's important.
11:14 <@wilpig> benthemeek: the help he needs is a replacement and someone to embrace his ideas and make them happen
11:14 <@wilpig> he has good ideas.  he has no organizational skills to make them happen
11:15 <@benthemeek> oddball: I don't think so, I just think he only communicated with specific people. I tend to reply-all far too much and drag people into a conversation who werent interested
11:16 <@benthemeek> wilpig: Well its time for the other officers to get better at organizational skills then
11:16 <@oddball> Hell, I'm not saying that he can't/shouldn't be involved.  Just that he really doesn't need to be the top man on the totem pole.
11:17 <@wilpig> ben, put all the officers on a boat.  your president is at the helm.  the engine is operating at peak efficiency, the crew is meeting challenges along the way and overcoming, your captain just drove into a reef.  What part of the crew kept him from killing them all?
11:17 <@oddball> After a couple discussions I had with him, I can only take him at his word that his lack of communication was intentional.
11:17 <@Mirage> wilpig: the one dispensing the life vests?
11:18 <@wilpig> your crew cannot overcome the problems of the captain.  best you can do is work around them and that is when you get half assed performance at best
11:18 <@oddball> The position of president is *the* person in charge of organizing shit.  If he can't/won't do it, he needs to not be in that position.
11:19 <@oddball> It's not your job as secretary to make sure that the prez is doing his job.
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11:22 <@wilpig> benthemeek: you have the ability to organize, take the position
11:23 <@wilpig> as a leader you can send crazy pants and conspiracy nut off to evangelize and they can do that
11:23 <@oddball> Oh, and I don't think you've pissed anyone off!
11:23 <@wilpig> the officers as a group can make decisions not just one person
11:23 <@wilpig> you don't have to bear the responsibility of making decisions
11:23 <@wilpig> well not all of them
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11:30 <@benthemeek> I hear all of what you are saying, but I think a change in leadership right now will put more leaks in the boat than it plugs.  I know that is just my opinion, but I would like to work with what we have instead of starting over. Phreaknic is not the president. Its a group effort, I think if we can get more people pulling at the oars things will be much better (to totally exhaust the  boat metaphor)
11:31 <@wilpig> your current situation is throwing the oars overboard and then looking at the situation and saying I don't know what happened
11:33 <@oddball> I just don't see the current prez acting like it's a group effort.
11:34 <@oddball> In fact, Naienko recently went to an interview, and PN came up.  The guy said "oh hey! I recently met the guy that runs that."
11:34 < aestetix> oddball: a job interview?
11:34 <@oddball> yep
11:34 < aestetix> that mentioned phreaknic?
11:34 <@rhia> give him the title PN Evangelist
11:35 <@rhia> make it a leadership position
11:35 <@wilpig> ^
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11:35 <@oddball> I believe she mentioned that if she didn't know the answer for something, she was good at the googles, and could always pop in here and ask us assholes.
11:36 <@wilpig> benthemeek: do you still not know the details of the hotel contract?
11:42 <@benthemeek> wilpig: I know the details. I don't think I am at liberty to say
11:42 <@benthemeek> Perhaps if the details are supposed to be general knowledge we need to add that to the by-laws
11:43 <@wilpig> the details should be known by all the officers prior to it being signed not after the fact.  honestly I still want to know how horrible that contract was for personal interest and for the fact that i've negoiated that contract before
11:44 <@wilpig> my point is gonna be this. run for president.  go back to doing shit the way we did.  all contracts and contacts for the officers went to help@nashville2600.org
11:44 <@wilpig> every officer knew the details of everything and nobody was in the dark, anyone was able to answer questions at anytime
11:45 <@wilpig> you want answers you can ask myself, dolemite, tilghman, etc.  it isn't hard, it takes someone that's willing to make a schedule, set a deadline, and put feet to the fire when those dates aren't hit
11:45 <@wilpig> if you're going to continue to hide the details of the deal with the hotel, then clearly there is something to hide
11:46 < aestetix> benthemeek for president!
11:49 <@wilpig> just to beat a dead horse. what would I be doing with the details of that contract anyhow?  using them to get a better deal for something i'm doing?  gonna publicize them for others to use as a basis to negotiate a deal? benthemeek do you consider me and/or dolemite still part of nashville2600?
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12:19 <@wilpig> museumofselfies.tumblr.com
12:28 <@benthemeek> wilpig: I absolutely consider you and all the past members as being the nashville2600.  The way in which you have communicated your criticism of Dru's management included a lot of name-calling and flaming :P He felt persecuted and started cutting ties because of it. I want to honor his wishes not to give out many details that might cause another round of flaming etc. The details are known among the officers now, and we met our obligation to
12:28 <@benthemeek> the hotel.
12:29 <@wilpig> you're afraid i'm going to flame him over the deal... that bad...
12:32 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
12:32 <@Dagmar> https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/get_ready_to_party/
12:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: FOSDEM 2015 - Get ready to party! (at fosdem.org)
12:32 <@benthemeek> There is speculation that because so many negative things were said on the list that some attendees didn't come this year to in fact to what was a pretty good con.
12:33 <@Dagmar> Perl6 will finally hit production state next year
12:33 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: THAT is a bullshit excuse
12:34 <@benthemeek> Dagmar: Most of the problems I think were from lack of communication by the officers to everyone else.  I want to make sure it doesn't happen again. I don't think anything you guys asked was unreasonable
12:34 <@Dagmar> What was said on the list was entirely factual, so, if someone didn't attend because of it, it was because they were merely fully informed.
12:35 <@Dagmar> I was aware it might be viewed as negative press so I kept my verbiage as factual and neutral as possible
12:35 <@oddball> There were several folks that didn't come due to what looked like a communications black out from the officers.
12:36 <@benthemeek> As others here who were at the con can confirm Dru said in his closing remarks how much he hated that website and what a mistake it was to use it. So for what its worth I think you can say a "I told you so" on that point
12:36 <@Dagmar> You know I heard perl6 will be able to parse human DNA
12:36 <@oddball> I tried to tell Dru that that was happening multiple times, and was always given excuses.. or straight up "fuck them."
12:36 <@Dagmar> benthemeek: If I wasted time telling people 'I told you so' I would have never been able to say anything else at Vandy.'
12:36 <@wilpig> benthemeek: the website was it's own i told you so
12:36 <@wilpig> no other needed
12:37 <@Dagmar> <5m to first crash.  *sigh*
12:37 <@benthemeek> It was a first try. It will get better with repetition
12:37 <@oddball> benthemeek: Nope.  Sorry, him admitting that now doesn't excuse it.
12:37 <@oddball> See... it wasn't.  He was president last year too.
12:37 < aestetix> Dagmar: you made perl crash?
12:37  * aestetix has never used perl 6
12:37 <@benthemeek> oddball: no it doesn't. But admiting mistakes is a good start to showing good leadersip
12:37 <@Dagmar> aestetix: No.  THat might rip a hole in the fabric of spacetime.
12:38 <@Dagmar> I was talkign about the website.
12:38 <@wilpig> okay... decision time.  Big Hero 6 at 2 or Interstellar at 3:30?
12:38 <@oddball> Big Hero 6.
12:38 <@benthemeek> I am equally torn
12:38 <@Dagmar> Although I have no idea what either are, 'Interstellar' sounds cooler to me.
12:38 <@benthemeek> I will have to see interstallar this weekend though
12:38 <@oddball> The best I've heard about Intersteller is that it does the space calculations right.
12:38 < aestetix> are those movies or something?
12:38 <@benthemeek> I too much much of a space fanboy to miss it
12:38 <@wilpig> Dagmar: iirc earth is dying and we set off to look at other possible habitable planets
12:38 <@Dagmar> Oh... movies
12:39 < aestetix> Big Hero 6.... because the fifth sequel is always a winner.
12:39 <@benthemeek> lol
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12:39 <@oddball> Just look at Leonard Part 6!
12:40 < aestetix> I miss corydon
12:40 <@wilpig> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2245084/
12:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Big Hero 6 (2014) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
12:40  * oddball wonders if anyone remembers Leonard Part 6
12:41 <@wilpig> I'd say everyone here does with the exception of benthemeek 
12:41 <@oddball> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093405/reference
12:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Leonard Part 6 (1987) (at www.imdb.com)
12:41 <@benthemeek> I have no idea what leonard is
12:41 <@wilpig> my grandpa really loved bill cosby
12:41 <@benthemeek> and I miss corydon too
12:42 <@Dagmar> It was a movie that involved exactly zero blacksploitation
12:42 <@Dagmar> For that, Cosby is a class act.
12:42 <@oddball> wilpig: That's because Cosby was really damned funny.
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12:42 <@benthemeek> Was his handle Corydon76?
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12:43 <@GateKeeper> oddball: Corydon76 was last seen in #se2600 4 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, 57 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <Corydon76> Take your Geritol on a regular basis, and maybe you would have been here
12:44 <@Dagmar> Oh hell yes https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152484777746943
12:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com)
12:44 <@Dagmar> "GAME HARASSMENT: 10 Hours Walking In Skyrim As A Woman"
12:44 <@wilpig> I saw that yesterday somewhere else
12:44 <@oddball> heh... yeah... I saw that the other day as well.
12:44 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEAC7nl5n2g
12:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: 10 hours walking in Skyrim as a woman in skimpy armor - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:45 < Peaches84> I saw corydon a few mins ago.
12:46 <@wilpig> hey Peaches84, didn't realize you're still lurking
12:46 < Peaches84> I just joined irc again this morning been a long time since i have been on here.
12:46 <@oddball> gah!  Hey Peaches84!  Don't remember the last time I saw you say anything on here.
12:46 <@oddball> ah, ok.  Welcome back!
12:46 < Peaches84> thanks
12:47  * benthemeek waves at Peaches84
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12:47 < Peaches84> hey ben
12:50 < Peaches84> wow i start talking and everyone goes quiet lol
12:51 <@wilpig> way to go Peaches84, killin' the room
12:51 <@oddball> we knows you is a secret spy sent to rat on us conspiring against the convention.
12:51 <@benthemeek> nu-uh
12:52 <@Dolemite> re:  Interstellar vs. Big Hero 6 - http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/11/07/interstellar_ba_movie_review.html
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12:52 <@Dolemite> It most certainly gets the science very wrong
12:52 <@wilpig> I'm sure the science is gonna be hella wrong
12:53 <@wilpig> it was more a decision of kids movie vs scifi
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12:53 < Peaches84> lol yeah i have that effect on people
12:53 <@oddball> Dolemite: Well, it's always a question of how does it stack up to other Hollywood flicks?
12:54 <@oddball> benthemeek: We're still trying to decide if you're a plant or not. :p
12:54 < Peaches84> No i try to stay out of all the problems as much as possible.
12:54 <@wilpig> it's a long as movie too, which is odd for today if it isn't directed by peter jackson
12:54 <@oddball> heh
12:54 <@benthemeek> I am definitly a member of the animal kinddom.. (ba da bum ching)
12:54 <@oddball> I was thinking that movies were getting longer in general.
12:54 <@NotLarry> benthemeek: My registration is still my dues correct?
12:54 <@wilpig> most are in the hour and a half range
12:55 <@wilpig> interstellar is at the 3 hour mark
12:56 <@benthemeek> oddball: I assure I am not a plant as I take pleasure in making everyone equally frustrated that I wont side with everyone else
12:56 <@benthemeek> NotLarry: yes I believe so
12:56 <@Dolemite> By the way, the new Texas Mile High Thickburger at Hardee's is tha fucking bomb.
12:56 <@benthemeek> wilpig: W00t! 3 hour space movie! I dont care if it sucks!
12:56  * benthemeek gets popcorn
12:57 <@oddball> Oh, I know you're stuck in a bad position and are trying to get everyone to play nice.
12:57 <@oddball> I just don't have nearly the faith in a couple folks that you do. :)
12:58 < Peaches84> Sometimes it best to just say your point and choose your battles otherwise.
12:58 <@wilpig> In any case I should get a shower so I can go out
12:59 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: I had that last week for dinner.
12:59 <@benthemeek> I was pleased
12:59 <@NotLarry> I found all but two people at the con friendly and happy to see I made what time I could.  One of the other two ignored me when I tried to say hi and thank him for his help with the con, and the second one stared at me like they wanted me dead.
12:59 <@benthemeek> Dolemite: I don't really like their buns though
13:00 <@wilpig> benthemeek: you're married and shouldn't be touching someone else's buns
13:00 <@NotLarry> That is rather puritanical of you.
13:00 <@NotLarry> wilpig call me
13:00 <@wilpig> which number?  noc orhome?
13:00 <@Dolemite> Their new fresh baked buns?  You don't like them?  What the hell is wrong with you?
13:01 <@oddball> NotLarry: Yeah.  The folks that were there seemed to be having a good time.
13:01 < Peaches84> I talked to NotLarry
13:01 <@wilpig> Peaches84: you didn't talk to me, jerk
13:01 < Peaches84> @wilpig you weren't there
13:02 < Peaches84> damit i did that wrong
13:02 <@wilpig> oh that's right.  I was having fun. 
13:02 <@wilpig> hehe
13:02 <@NotLarry> well, that did not work
13:02 < Peaches84> the bath house wasn't having fun wilpig lol
13:02 <@oddball> wilpig: Hey! you didn't talk to me! jackass.
13:02 <@wilpig> Peaches84: http://phhhoto.com/tumblr-hq  that was thursday night
13:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: PHHHOTO® Presents: TUMBLRHQ (at phhhoto.com)
13:03 <@wilpig> this was saturday night.  http://wilpig.tumblr.com/post/101548518097/primus-and-the-chocolate-factory-what-an-amazing
13:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pig Angry! PIG SMASH! Primus and the Chocolate Factory. What an amazing... (at wilpig.tumblr.com)
13:03 <@wilpig> oddball: you're right I didn't and i'm gonna continue that trend.
13:03 <@Dagmar> oddball: Librarians movies?
13:05 < Peaches84> lol cool
13:05 <@oddball> The Librarian movies starring Noah Wilde.
13:05 <@oddball> TNT made three of them a couple years ago.
13:05 <@NotLarry> wilpig: don't want to call an idiot and idiot in front of them.
13:05 <@Dagmar> Ah
13:06 <@Dagmar> My first Google search came up with some bullshit on Hulu
13:06 <@wilpig> haha
13:10 <@oddball> I'm glad that it looks like Christian Kane is going to play the bruiser in this series.  Sure... it's the same character that he played in Leverage, but I loved that character.
13:11 <@oddball> And they're apparently going to have Bob Newhart make a couple appearances... I'm suprised he's still moving around.
13:12 <@Dagmar> It's amazing what they can do with CGI these days.
13:12 <@oddball> heh
13:13 <@oddball> huh... he's only 85.  I was thinking he was 110 at this point. :p
13:14 <@oddball> I'm guessing the first couple episodes have either his or Jane Curtis' character get replaced by John Larroquette's character.
13:24 <@benthemeek> Really like this cover.. http://youtu.be/kYICwkCnUIk
13:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Nouela -The Sound of Silence - YouTube (at youtu.be)
13:24 < RangerZ> Dagmar: after paul walker's death the studios started to want 3D facial and body scans so that they can CGI replace you if you die
13:24 < RangerZ> lol
13:26 <@oddball> benthemeek: That is a good cover.
13:27 <@Dagmar> There's an animated movie about that, actually
13:27 <@benthemeek> that same person did the cover of "Black hole sun" thats in the trailer for Liam Neison's new movie "Walk among the headstones"
13:27 <@oddball> Is that movie worth watching?
13:27 <@Dagmar> I thought it was.
13:27 <@oddball> cool
13:27 <@wilpig> Dagmar: not cgi, it's animatronics like walt disney
13:27 <@Dagmar> parts of it are _really_ weird tho
13:28 <@oddball> I'll try to catch it at some point.
13:28 < RangerZ> Liam Neison's 8th movie playing the same character?
13:28 <@oddball> heh
13:28 < RangerZ> but....he plays it _so_ well
13:28 <@oddball> There is that.
13:31 <@Dagmar> "Listen to me very carefully.  I do not have any acting skills.   What I do have is a set of specialized mannerisms and expressions which I will use to hunt down and terrify ticket sales into happening."
13:32 <@oddball> I wouldn't say he doesn't have acting skills.  I've seen him in other roles.
13:32 <@wilpig> if I go now I can have a leisurely hour long lunch then go see the movie
13:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah but he never gets to use them
13:35 <@oddball> Well, it's either act, or rake in piles of cash.
13:36 <@wilpig> http://www.gamestop.com/nintendo-3ds/games/pokemon-omega-ruby/114994
13:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pokemon Omega Ruby for Nintendo 3DS | GameStop (at www.gamestop.com)
13:36 <@wilpig> anyone see a problem here?
13:37 <@oddball> You mean the download being available over a month after the physical purchase?
13:37 <@oddball> Or the "
13:37 <@wilpig> yeah the download vs release date
13:37 <@oddball> OMG! Another pokemon game!  Just like the last 257 ones!"
13:38 <@wilpig> shhhh if you don't call attention to it they won't notice
13:38 <@wilpig> the last one at least changed the play style up
13:38 <@wilpig> a hair, not a ton
13:41 < aestetix> I wonder what would happen  if you put pop rocks in your ass
13:41 <@wilpig> we'd laugh at you
13:42 < aestetix> It seems like something RangerZ might like
13:42 < frsilent> isn't he going for his phd right now?
13:43 < frsilent> that's like the same thing right?
13:43 <@wilpig> frsilent: masters only
13:44 <@wilpig> he hasn't lost his mind entirely yet
13:45 < frsilent> lol
13:49 < RangerZ> wilpig: I already have my masters
13:49 < RangerZ> going for PhD
13:49 < RangerZ> SPLAShED: Software Platform for Large-Scale Assessment of Software-Development for Education-at-a-Distance
13:49 < RangerZ> just submitted that paper
13:51 <@wilpig> frsilent: I've been corrected.  he's lost his flippin' mind
13:51 < RangerZ> nope
13:51 < RangerZ> who the fuck would want to be LOOKING for a job right now?
13:52 <@wilpig> people who want money
13:52 < RangerZ> no... they would want to HAVE a job
13:52 < RangerZ> not be LOOKING
13:52 < RangerZ> see: oddball
13:52 <@oddball> ...
13:52 <@oddball> :(
13:53  * RangerZ comforts oddball
13:54 < RangerZ> plus... professors are one of the few jobs left in the US which still have a high unionization rate
13:55 < RangerZ> so that helps
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14:01 < aestetix> quinn norton's new article is fucking amazing
14:02 < aestetix> RangerZ: around here, there are plenty of jobs if you're willing to enter a Faustian agreement
14:04  * oddball loads up lubuntu onto a USB drive to install on one of his netbooks.
14:04 < aestetix> http://m.thenation.com/article/186425-work-speedups-have-consequences-boss-never-imagined
14:06 < RangerZ> aestetix: I linked you that a few days ago
14:06 < RangerZ> lol
14:06 < aestetix> oh lol
14:06 < aestetix> I must have left it open and forgotten about it
14:07 < aestetix> "Numerous studies over the past decade have shown that higher patient-to-nurse ratios are strongly correlated with medical errors and worse health outcomes, including more patient deaths"
14:08 < aestetix> How much you wanna bet the result of this is more malpractice insurance
14:08 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax0OWUkQTgo she did an interview here
14:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: Majority Report 11/4/14 - Esther Kaplan: Americans Are Working So Hard It’s Actually Killing People - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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14:28 <@Dagmar> Apparnetly once you have Inbox you get three Inbox invitations to give out
14:28 < scoob> doesn't work for apps accounts =|
14:28 < aestetix> Dagmar: I got an invite
14:28 < aestetix> wanna buy it?
14:28 < scoob> not super bummed though because it doesn't look like something I think I need
14:29 < scoob> figured I'd at least try it though
14:29 <@Dagmar> I'm scoping it out to see what it's doing and I mostly agree with what it's doing
14:29 <@benthemeek> If I took a picture on my phone and wanted to show it to you guys in here without the annoying task of sharing it on google+ or facebook what is the most easiest way to do so
14:29 < scoob> imgur?
14:29 <@benthemeek> I have seen wilpig do this but never paid attention
14:29 <@Dagmar> It's doing a remarkably good job of triaging and organizing the stuff that actually isn't mailing list traffic going into folders
14:29 < scoob> or you can self host it
14:29 < aestetix> imgur probably
14:29 < aestetix> or dropbox
14:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah imgur
14:30 <@Dagmar> You don't even have to make a login for imgur as far as I know
14:36 < scoob> yeah
14:36 < scoob> unless you want to keep 'control' over your stuff
14:36 < scoob> the ability to remove it and such
14:36 < scoob> I mean obviously once it's up anyone can rehost it
14:36 < scoob> but you can at least take down your copy if you have an account
14:41 <@benthemeek> There ya go Wilpig http://i.imgur.com/rd1mrLI.jpg
14:42 <@benthemeek> A truly delicious treat?
14:42 < aestetix> http://baghdad2600.org/download/PeriodicTableofCyberSecurity.pdf
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15:02 < RangerZ> damn it
15:03 < RangerZ> ....I was able to go home early... and now laying in bed....
15:03 < RangerZ> I might be too comfy to go to nashville2600
15:05 <@oddball> you still have a couple hours to escape
15:05 < RangerZ> I might go see mighty #6 afterwards
15:05 < RangerZ> so if anyone wants to go
15:05 < RangerZ> then you can pay for me
15:05 < RangerZ> ;)
15:06 < Peaches84> lol
15:06 <@oddball> Well, I'm out, then.
15:06 < RangerZ> haha, yeah
15:07 < RangerZ> yeah I would pay for myself, and any cute single female
15:07 < RangerZ> lol
15:07 < RangerZ> if anyone wants to throw one of those my way
15:08 <@Mirage> Peaches84: hey girlfriend!
15:08 < RangerZ> female in both mind and body ;)
15:08 < aestetix> RangerZ: anarchival might be available
15:08 < RangerZ> aestetix: 'cute' part
15:09 < RangerZ> she fails
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15:09 < RangerZ> plus... she'd make my skin crawl if she touched me...
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15:09 < RangerZ> and not in the good way... lol
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15:10 <@oddball> And we know Dru isn't showing up tonight, so she's not going to be there.
15:10 < aestetix> oddball: are they dating?
15:10 <@oddball> They claim not.
15:11 <@oddball> But she has no car, and he's the one that gives her a ride anywhere.
15:11 < aestetix> do they have sex?
15:12 <@oddball> I believe that they claim no.
15:12 < aestetix> I wonder what they define as sex
15:12 < aestetix> I mean maybe she gave him a blowjob but they don't define that as full on sex
15:12 <@oddball> I believe that they claim no romantic entanglement.
15:12  * Mirage thinks of 'Clerks'
15:13 < aestetix> I imagine they could have sex without romance
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15:14  * oddball kicks aestetix in the shin for being a pedantic little twat.
15:14 < aestetix> well remember, definitions are important to lawyers
15:15 < frsilent> they're also a really annoying trait of 90% of the programmers I know
15:15 < Peaches84> hey mirage
15:16 < frsilent> ie my boss: "yeah that jar of jellybeans is huge! Like a million jellybeans." "THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S A MILLION. WTF. It can only be like 500"
15:19 < RangerZ> frsilent: he was obviously using hyperbole
15:20 < RangerZ> or hyperbs
15:20 < RangerZ> depending on the person
15:20 < RangerZ> lol
15:20 < frsilent> no his response was the pedantic one, my point is basically about context & hyperbole
15:20 < frsilent> I use hyperbole a lot in casual conversation to make a point, different context like requirements gathering....that's a very bad idea
15:21 < frsilent> but some people (my boss) can't differentiate context
15:21 < frsilent> because aspergers
15:23 <@oddball> See... that's a reasonable excuse.
15:23 <@oddball> dude has a mild form of autism.
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15:26 < frsilent> he doesn't, that's just my use of hyperbole again =]
15:30 <@oddball> ah
15:36 <@Dagmar> Damn Overwatch looks pretty hardcore
15:41 <@Mirage> no wallhack required for a couple classes..
15:41 < RangerZ> overwatch?
15:41 <@Mirage> read moar /.
15:41 < RangerZ> blizzcon stuff
15:42 <@oddball> So... another WoW expansion?
15:42 <@Mirage> amazingly no
15:42 < RangerZ> new IP entirely
15:42 < RangerZ> from the ashes of TITAN
15:42 <@oddball> ah
15:42 < RangerZ> the pvp part of titan
15:43 <@Mirage> lol... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIln1LTtvzc
15:43 <@GateKeeper> Title: MechDaddy 2014 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:43 < RangerZ> pherah = veritch
15:44 < RangerZ> at least the missile attacks
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15:47 < RangerZ> plus it has mighty hero 6 themed worlds... lol
15:47 < RangerZ> the San Fran Tokycisco
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15:53 < RangerZ> also... i read both short series of big hero 6, and the 2nd one I really wanted the preppy bitch to start to like the boy genius... lol (characters in the movie are apparently WAY different than the series)
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16:02 < RangerZ> [Assessing and Detecting Malicious Hardware in Integrated Circuits] now THAT is a phd defense I want to go to
16:19 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: This may or may not be of interest to you https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ViKD6w7nyWqR9wE1i7_mYPH29mmapgEJrGGg5waAsuI/edit
16:19 <@GateKeeper> Title: RES 101 Hangout Intel - Google Docs (at docs.google.com)
16:19 <@Dagmar> Someone oopsed and invited an ENL player into the newbie RES chat
16:21 <@Dagmar> VE = VioletEve (Lindsey)
16:22 < RangerZ> ahh
16:22 <@Dagmar> The newbie that was talking about "I was dumb and touched a Dagmar portal" is just an example of the terrible timing they have had lately
16:22 < RangerZ> nice
16:22 <@Dagmar> For the first time in a week Lindsey and I had gone out to go collect some keys and fill in some fields, and dude starts banging on a portal he can't possibly hope to take down at L5 while we were seven blocks away.
16:22 <@Dagmar> I was like, "Well, this is easy.  Let's go and see if he's a bot."
16:23 <@Dagmar> Sure enough, there's one little car all by itself over at Charlotte Park, and a curly-headed dude poking at his phone in the driver's seat.
16:23 < RangerZ> lol
16:24 <@Dagmar> I told him about the below-par handicap and suggested he might find downtown to be a ton more portals for leveling purposes
16:24 <@Dagmar> ...and I *meant* it when I said I frequently leave the Nashville West area open just to see if they'll make some damn fields.
16:25 <@Dagmar> Hell, we went and made the portal that's within reach of his doorstep level 6 so he'd be able to get extra bursters from it
16:25 <@Dagmar> You can't tell a smurf anything.
16:26 < RangerZ> if I had one of those... I'd have it lvl 8 with heatsinks
16:26 <@Dagmar> He was only level 5.
16:27 <@Dagmar> It pretty much guaranteed he'd get loot he could use or would be able to use in the next couple of days.
16:27 < RangerZ> ...and definitely _not_ running monkey runner scripts... hitting the portal... and then dumping the good onto the ground once I was full... so others could share in the wealth...
16:27 < RangerZ> lol
16:27 <@Dagmar> They have a ludicrous bonus drop in effect right now
16:28 < Synx|hm> i went to openskate again this morning
16:28 <@Dagmar> If you hack a friendly portal, you get 3x the normal number of resonators
16:28 <@Dagmar> If you hit an enemy portal, you get 3x the number of bursters
16:28 < Synx|hm> except i missread the schedule and the guy at the counter didn't say a fucking word just took my money
16:28 <@Dagmar> Do these idiots make fields?
16:28 <@Dagmar> NO!
16:28 < Synx|hm> so i had the rink to myself because it WASNT OPEN haha
16:28 < Synx|hm> nobody said a word for an hour
16:28 <@Dagmar> LOL
16:28 <@Dagmar> Yay!
16:28 <@Dagmar> I'd say that was probably worth it tho
16:29 < Synx|hm> yup
16:29 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: went around and licked every inch they could...
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16:37 < RangerZ> no clue what kinda skate rink
16:37 < RangerZ> but really hope it was ice skating.... so that the licking is funnier
16:37 < RangerZ> lol
16:37 < Synx|hm> yes ice
16:38 < RangerZ> you know... I could speed skate as fast as the local semi-pro hockey team members...roughly, some were faster
16:38 < RangerZ> but can't skate backwards.... so no ice hokey for me, lol
16:38 < Synx|hm> :)
16:39 < Synx|hm> im trying to get on the ice as much as possible to i can join the adult league here
16:39 < Synx|hm> want to get back into hockey but its been a very very long time
16:39 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: as long as you aren't as old as oddball and Dagmar, you should be fine
16:39  * RangerZ ducks
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16:42 < Synx|hm> ha
16:42 <@benthemeek> I am done with Unity. Its madness. going to LXDE desktop for a while
16:43 < Synx|hm> i installed ubuntu desktop right after unity came out, then noped the fuck right out of there
16:44 < Synx|hm> went with MATE instead
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16:47 <@Dagmar> Looks like i'm going to have to go buy a hockey stick to beat RangerZ with
16:49 <@benthemeek> I have ran unity since its inception but it has this weird bug (It think its unity anyway where I cant unlock the screen once its locked sometimes)
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16:55 <@benthemeek> Poll: what is everyone's desktop?
16:55 <@benthemeek> I have gotten so used to unity and its nize hot key window sizing and hotkey to lock the screen etc etc
17:00 <@oddball> ew... Unity.
17:01 <@oddball> I use Cinnimon on my Mint machines, and I currently have KDE on my netbook, but I'm thinking about switching to LXDE for it.
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17:04 <@oddball> I think I'll go ahead and head down to JJ's in hopes of avoiding the worst of the traffic.  Also, that way I can stop by Friedman's and look around.
17:06 <@NotLarry> Say hi for me.
17:06 <@NotLarry> Working...
17:08 < aestetix> man
17:09 < aestetix> why do so many hipsters dress like lumberjacks
17:10 < aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/2lkng6/tifu_by_eating_a_whole_papa_johns_chili_fritos/
17:10 < aestetix> this is fucking art
17:12 < Peaches84> ha ha
17:15 <@Bahhumbug> benthemeek: That was a known issue in some random release of shitbuntu that should have been addressed by now.
17:15 <@Bahhumbug> This would have been a release blocker in any sane distro, by the way.
17:18 <@Shadow404> wilpig: whats up yo
17:25 <@benthemeek> Bahhumbug: l just hate having to customize the hotkeys and such. I like it working out of the box and never really cared about which desktop. :P
17:40 <@Shadow404> who wants a free copy of metro 2033?
17:45 <@NotLarry> Shadow404: I do
17:46 <@Shadow404> NotLarry grabs the prize
17:53 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.epicbundle.com/article/steam-key-for-free-metro-2033 for anyone else that wants one
17:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: STEAM Key for FREE: Metro 2033 (at www.epicbundle.com)
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17:57 <@Shadow404> NotLarry: not sure if it has an mp mode, but im up for playig tonight
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18:52 <@wilpig> interstellar was enjoyable
18:53 <@wilpig> the science was absolute shit but it was okay
18:54 <@wilpig> I was laughing at the trailers.  they've resurrected paul walker from the dead for one more sequel 
18:54 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skpu5HaVkOc
18:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Furious 7 - Official Trailer (HD) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:07 <@oddball> Time for the post-con debrief.  Let the hillarity begin!
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19:15 <@wilpig> lol
19:16 < Peaches84> YAY
19:16  * Peaches84 runs fast
19:19 <@wilpig> Peaches84: running causes accidents
19:19 < Peaches84> no no no i have my clothes on and i am not in drag
19:31 <@wilpig> bah
19:31 <@wilpig> Remote Server returned '<smtp.mediacombb.net #5.1.0 smtp; 550 5.1.0 <wilbur@wilpig.org> Invalid SPF record please see http://www.openspf.org - POL007>'
19:31 <@GateKeeper> Title: SPF: Project Overview (at www.openspf.org)
19:31 <@wilpig> now I have to wait for dns to replicate
19:41 <@wilpig> well that didn't take long at least
19:41  * Peaches84 grabs a blanket and popcorn ready for the movie to start...
19:42 <@wilpig> Peaches84: you watching leprechaun 3 too?
19:44 < Peaches84> lol no i am at the meeting but i am wanting so bad to watch Netflix
19:47 <@wilpig> you could just punch dru in the face and make me happy.  :D
19:47 <@wilpig> just one good one, square in teh nose
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19:51 <@oddball> Dru's out of town this weekend.
19:51 < Peaches84> oh wilpig he is not here and i have a limp wrist
19:52 <@wilpig> i'd accept a limp wristed slap too
19:52 <@wilpig> a kick in the nuts?
19:55 < Peaches84> I can't do that you know that
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19:58 <@wilpig> I can always hope.  I'm gonna have to make a trip down there to deliver my message eventually
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22:03 <@NotLarry> note to everyone, always open the email from your boss that says "urgent" before you open the one from a stranger that says "urgent"
22:05 <@wilpig> when do you open email from someone you know that isn't your boss that says urgent in relation to the previous two?
22:32 <@NotLarry> Just saying.
22:32 <@NotLarry> Ok, I am out of here.
22:42 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GClNq3UOwrA HAHAHA
22:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Glory Holes In This College Library Bathroom Has Gotten Out Of Hand - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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22:53 <@oddball> I tend to open anything flagged "urgent" last.
22:53 < Peaches84> lol
22:53 <@oddball> Largely because I find that most things flagged urgent aren't.
23:00 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: They are straight up messing with folks with those ads
23:00 <@Dagmar> Tetanus would be the thing you should worry about with that
23:00 <@Dagmar> If not MASSIVE BLOOD LOSS
23:03 <@oddball> Wow... the Young Turk is apparently scraping the bottom of the barrel with that story.
23:04 < RangerZ2> no, they have 2 parts to their show, the 'funny half' and the 'serious' half
23:04 <@oddball> ah
23:05 < RangerZ2> the funny half is basically fark/politics
23:05 < RangerZ2> lol
23:05 <@Dagmar> I don't think people are using that as a glory hole
23:05 <@Dagmar> That looks like a good way to cut your wang in half
23:06 <@Bahhumbug> There's a segment of the population where that might not be such a bad thing.
23:07 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: so... Binding of Iasic had "lemon party for congress" in it
23:07 <@oddball> It's the new eXtreme glory hole!  The danger makes things more exciting.
23:07 < RangerZ2> saw that on someone's stream...
23:07 <@Bahhumbug> The CentOS Facebook group, for instance.  I'm pretty sure that 99% of the lusers in that group would be better off, or society as a whole would be actually, better off if their junk got shredded.
23:07 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: You mean, Republican Senators?
23:07 <@Bahhumbug> Them too.
23:10 < RangerZ2> I'm more concerned with the people who vote them into office
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