--- Log opened Wed Nov 05 00:00:24 2014
00:04 < sasquatc4> i dont know if it means nothing will get done, or every wrong thing will get done
00:05 < sasquatc4> i can see them forcing shit through if they have enough of a majority and giving the finger to everyone
00:08 < aestetix> I am curious how much Obama will be using the veto now.
00:09 < sasquatc4> this state is so odd, they vote in the repub senator, even they they overwhemingly voted down his personhood measure
00:09 < sasquatc4> and the same counties that swung to the republican senator, are swinging to the democratic governor
00:09 < aestetix> Well what is going to happe nnow
00:10 < aestetix> The GOP congress will pass hundeds of bills to repeal Obamacare, and Obama will veto them all.
00:10 < RangerZ1> aestetix: worse than 'nothing'
00:10 < aestetix> That's likely what we'll see for the next two years.
00:10 < RangerZ1> we'll get TPP
00:10 < aestetix> TPP?
00:10 < RangerZ1> so corp. can sue to have national laws changed
00:11 < RangerZ1> nafta for the entire pacific rim
00:11 < aestetix> ugh
00:11 < RangerZ1> Trans Pacific Partnernship
00:11 < RangerZ1> the 'negotiations' are secret
00:11 < RangerZ1> b/c negotiating trade deals in public would be bad for the US
00:11 < RangerZ1> ....and that is the OFFICIAL stance of the state dept...
00:12 < aestetix> So as bad as things are
00:12 < aestetix> They are going to get much much worse
00:12 < RangerZ1> pretty much
00:12 < RangerZ1> also SCOTUS
00:13 < RangerZ1> god help us that they all last another 2 years
00:15 < RangerZ1> if you were able to kill 1 person with no traces
00:16 < RangerZ1> a SCOTUS member would be the most impactful choice in the entire world possible
00:16 < aestetix> You mean Antonin Scalia
00:16 < RangerZ1> depending on your political POV
00:16 < RangerZ1> but I'd rather get rid of the chief justice
00:16 < RangerZ1> they have more power, and he's younger
00:17 < RangerZ1> John Roberts*
00:17 < RangerZ1> 1955 vs 1936 with Scalia
00:18 < RangerZ1> and Ginserberg with 1933
00:18 < aestetix> John Roberts *did* issue the vote keeping obamacare
00:18 < RangerZ1> b/c of politics
00:18 < RangerZ1> and 'legacy'
00:18 < RangerZ1> if it had been struck down, it would have caused a democratic backlash like nothing you've ever seen
00:18 < RangerZ1> See Apendix: Wisconson
00:19 < aestetix> well right now, we don't have political parties
00:19 < RangerZ1> sure we do
00:19 < aestetix> we have profiteers versus communists
00:20 < RangerZ1> the Whig party is isolationist, pro oil(b/c of wanting to get rid of importing energy), and socially/politically libertarian otherwise
00:20 < RangerZ1> fuck
00:20 < RangerZ1> i WISH we had a communist party
00:20 < RangerZ1> it would make the democrats look a lot better
00:20 < aestetix> We don't have an isolationist party anymore
00:20 < RangerZ1> b/c it would show how fucking moderate they are
00:20 < RangerZ1> yes we do, Whig
00:21 < aestetix> the GOP wants to conquer everyone else, and the Dems want to save everyone else
00:21 < RangerZ1> whig party is getting started back up in UK
00:21 < RangerZ1> b/c of wanting to be isolationist
00:21 < RangerZ1> sorta...
00:21 < RangerZ1> pro-immigration isolationists
00:21 < RangerZ1> aka... they favor brain drain into the country
00:22 < RangerZ1> plus... UK = tiny fucking island... can't be isolationist
00:22 < RangerZ1> thats why they started the colonies in the first place... not enough natural resources, lol
00:23 < RangerZ1> i'm seriously thinking a parliment or a 'roll-over' voting system would be better
00:23 < aestetix> vagina
00:24 < RangerZ1> so I could vote for a real progressive party, and if they don't win, let the vote 'roll over' to a different party's canidate
00:24 < RangerZ1> that way "wasted" votes don't happen
00:24 < RangerZ1> NY state has that for state elections
00:24 < RangerZ1> and its fucking wonderful
00:24 < RangerZ1> DEM and REP only get like 25% of the vote each
00:25 < RangerZ1> the rest goes to tons of smaller parties ... like the 'we're for teachers party', etc
00:25 < RangerZ1> who 'roll over' to DEM, etc
00:38 < RangerZ1> god I can't even listen to MSNBC, b/c Chris Hayes is the only one pointing out that _politically_ and Machievelianly(sp?) the GOP has done great under obstructing government and immigration, etc... and I also don't see why that changes
00:39 < RangerZ1> pre 1996 republicans would have passed immigration years ago, to get it done and over with, but since 96, the newt gingrich/then tea party wings of the base/party have decided that Democrats are evil, and are terrorists, and if you work with them you are too
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07:27 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:01 <@wilpig> Dolemite: I bought an apple peeler/corer last night
08:01 <@wilpig> I was amusing myself for a good hour with curly apple slices
08:04 <@Dolemite> I see a multitude of apple dumplings in your future
08:05 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0k7fywbblvrhji/2014-11-04%2021.01.02.jpg?dl=0
08:05 <@wilpig> I need to go pick up a new vacuum sealer too.  mine crapped out last night
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09:04  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
09:06 <@Dickie> leave room for the holy spirit
09:07 <@wilpig> the holy spitit is in my pants, cause everytime they come off I hear "oh god!"
09:07 <@wilpig> spirit too
09:11 <@Bahhumbug> spitit works
09:12  * Dickie nods sagely
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09:27 <@Mirage> From: Osborn, Troy
09:27 <@Mirage> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:34 PM
09:27 <@Mirage> To: 'Rai.Warbasse@kp.org'
09:27 <@Mirage> Cc: Hayden, Gavin
09:27 <@Mirage> Subject: RE: CAS Management systems
09:27 <@Mirage> I.ve successfully tested the configuration changes needed for AD authentication in the LAB environment.  I emailed Marina and the CAS team asking when I can make the change but have not yet received a response from anyone.
09:28 <@Mirage> The caveats to AD authentication:
09:28 <@Mirage>             - Any valid login will create a new READ_ONLY account in the Puppet Dashboard
09:28 <@Mirage> - An Administrator will be required to manually login and change the permissions of anyone needing elevated privileges.
09:28 <@Mirage>             - (Unconfirmed) There was no account creation email generated by Puppet
09:28 <@Mirage>                         - There is no (supported) manner to customize the new account email to provide the correct support contact information
09:28 <@Mirage>             - Upon the initial login, the user does not get forwarded to the Dashboard because the profile did not previously exist
09:28 <@Mirage>                         - Subsequent logins work as expected.
09:28 <@Mirage> I.m about to head out for the weekend, so I guess I.ll follow up on this when I get in the office on Monday.
09:28 <@Mirage> Troy Osborn
09:28 <@Mirage> Sr System Administrator
09:28 <@Mirage> Cloud Managed Services - OS Mgmt
09:28 <@Mirage> troy.osborn@vce.com
09:28 <@Mirage> +1-972-336-1452 - Mobile
09:28 <@Mirage>  
09:28 <@Mirage> This email message and any files transmitted may contain confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom this email message is addressed. If you have received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or email and destroy the original message without making a copy. Thank you.
09:28 <@Mirage> shit
09:28 <@Mirage> ^-- Why PuTTY "right-click to paste" can be bad
09:28  * brimstone emails Troy Osborn
09:29 <@Mirage> At least it wasn't chock full of IP's and root paswors
09:29 <@Mirage> passwords
09:29  * brimstone destroys #se2600 without making a copy
09:29 <@brimstone> Mirage: why don't you take 5 and get a drink?
09:29 <@Mirage> brimstone: no shit
09:29 < Synx|hm> i spent all afternoon re-writing my resume
09:30 < Synx|hm> made very good progress i think
09:30 < Synx|hm> i am actually excited for once that i might be able to find another job and tell these fuckers to piss off
09:34 <@Bahhumbug> Make sure you get an exit interview :)
09:34  * aestetix dials the phone number
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09:37 <@wilpig> damn Mirage headed out for the weekend already?  that's a short week
09:38 < aestetix> vce.com and kp.org
09:38 < aestetix> those are choice domain names
09:38 <@Mirage> wilpig: yeah, that was an old email that i was forwarding to the original recipient because he apparently didn't read the fucking thing.
09:39 <@wilpig> sticking with my version
09:39 <@Mirage> aestetix: you like those?
09:39 <@Mirage> wilpig: I wish.   God knows I have the vacation time.
09:39 <@Mirage> wilpig: Unfortunately they only roll over 5 days, so I need to start taking off random days or I lose the extra
09:39 < aestetix> Mirage: they are short
09:40 <@wilpig> well you've got two days starting tomorrow
09:40 < aestetix> wait
09:40 <@wilpig> really long weekend
09:40 < aestetix> AD = active directory?
09:40 < aestetix> Does that mean you can run puppet on windows?
09:41 <@Mirage> aestetix: not the puppet master.  You can set it up to authenticate via LDAP against AD, though
09:42 < aestetix> maybe if I send an email with questions to this toy.osborn guy they will find their way to Corydon
09:42 <@Mirage> or maybe those emails will find their way into the spam folder
09:43 < aestetix> oh hmm. maybe i should send them to rai.warbasse instead
09:43 <@Mirage> aestetix: maybe you should not be a dick
09:44 < aestetix> you're right
09:44 < aestetix> porn is a much more effective communication tool than text
09:45 < aestetix> takes less time and is in general more efficient
09:45 <@Bahhumbug> Mirage: Good luck with that.
09:45  * aestetix goes to look for some images of pigs and goats
09:45 <@Mirage> aestetix: do whatever you want.  If it comes back to me and I get fired, I will find you
09:46 <@Mirage> And the entire #se2600 channel will reap the benefit
09:47 <@Bahhumbug> I'll post your bond.
09:48 < aestetix> On a more serious note, anyone in here good with nginx config?
09:48 < aestetix> Looking for a way to set up a proxy_pass so that it doesn't return the response through the proxy
10:00 < aestetix> jesus
10:00 < aestetix> http://panampost.com/alice-salles/2014/11/04/ted-cruz-greases-wheels-for-cia-killing-of-us-citizens/?utm_content=bufferdb6cc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
10:01 < aestetix> "Ted Cruz, a Republican senator from Texas, has recently introduced legislation that would expand the Executive’s power by essentially allowing the federal government to strip anyone’s citizenship over his or her alleged support of terrorism."
10:06 <@wilpig> that sounds pretty shitty
10:07 < aestetix> It's also not possible.
10:07 < aestetix> There's no such thing as "revoking" US citizenship.
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10:26 <@Dolemite> oddball:  ping
10:28 <@oddball> pong?
10:28 <@Dolemite> I am looking at picking up a bolt action rifle.  Looking for a recommendation on inexpensive but not a complete piece of shit.
10:29 <@Dolemite> And rough estimate on what to expect one to cost at a gun show
10:29 <@oddball> I'm guessing .22?
10:29 <@wilpig> it's finally happened.  he's gonna start asking abotu bell towers next
10:29 <@Dolemite> Yeah, cheap ammo
10:29 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I've already talked to the lady that lives across the hall from your apartment, so I'm all set on that part
10:30 <@oddball> I'm a fan of Marlin rifles for inexpensive but good.
10:30 <@Shadow404> ruger
10:30 <@Dolemite> Marlin X7?
10:31 <@oddball> Yeah, that's Marlin's current .22 bolt action.
10:31 <@Dolemite> So any idea what they go for at a gun show?
10:31 <@oddball> Oh... wait... I'm assuming that you'd use this for Boy Scout stuff.
10:31 < aestetix> ok
10:31 < aestetix> "LGBTQIA community"
10:31 < aestetix> I think I know what all the letters but "I" stand for
10:31 < aestetix> also jesus how many fucking letters are there
10:32 <@Mirage> Dolemite: intended use?
10:32 <@Dolemite> oddball: Kinda sorta.  Anything at a BSA event would be using the BSA equipment.  This would be for practice at home, er I mean, at wilpig's home.
10:32 <@oddball> I know some camps and such want to be able to load a round directly into the chamber and not have a mag in.  I'm not sure if the X7 has a magazine disconnect or not.
10:32 <@oddball> Ah, ok.
10:32 <@Mirage> Single-shot, clip, tube-mag?
10:33 <@Shadow404> i like tube mag
10:33 <@Shadow404> clips suck for .22
10:33 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Single-shot is what BSA uses, I believe
10:33 <@oddball> I haven't looked at .22 bolt actions in a while, but I'm thinking somewhere between $200-$300 new for most "plinking" rifles.
10:33 <@Dolemite> cool
10:33 <@Dolemite> althought plinking sounds more like a term Corydon would use
10:34 <@Shadow404> its not any fun if he isnt here
10:34 <@oddball> Well, vs the proper higher end target rifles.
10:34 <@oddball> I'd say you shouldn't have any issues with Marlin, Ruger, or Savage rifles.
10:35 <@oddball> Shadow404: meh, I've had a lot of experience with the Marlin magazine fed .22s, and never had an issue with the mags, and I know a shit ton of folks that swear by their Ruger 10/22s.
10:36 <@Shadow404> thats what i had
10:36 <@Shadow404> i just like tube fed for quick reload
10:36 <@oddball> And there's nothing wrong with a 10/22, but it's a semi-auto.
10:36 <@oddball> uhhh... get more mags!
10:36 <@Shadow404> i can get about 25 .22 shorts in a tube
10:37 <@Shadow404> mags for my 10/22ruger only held 6 on a crappy revolver clip thingy
10:37 <@oddball> Well, yeah, there is the fact that tube mags will take 22lr, 22short, and 22long, but how many times do you get something other than .22lr?
10:37 <@Shadow404> constantly stuck
10:38 <@Shadow404> oddball: i do
10:38 <@oddball> you weird
10:38 <@Shadow404> i have stacks of mismatchef .22
10:38 <@Shadow404> bulk buy at shows
10:38 <@Shadow404> great for uber cheap plinking
10:39 <@oddball> Dolemite: By the way, word of warning: the .22 manufacturers *still* haven't caught up to the new demand of the market, so .22 is still in short supply.
10:40 <@oddball> Hopefully that will change in the next year as a few new factories come on line.
10:40 <@Shadow404> gah, headhunter was supposd to cal 10min ago
10:40 <@Dolemite> So anyway, I apparently need a bolt action .22 and a semi-auto .22 for the rifle instructor course
10:40 <@Shadow404> jerk
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10:40 <@oddball> You need both? huh.
10:40 <@Dolemite> One place I'd looked had mentioned needing a lever action, but I don't think that's required, anymore.  I have a friend that will loan me his if it was needed.
10:41 <@Dolemite> http://www.nratraining.com/pca.htm
10:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: NRA Instructor Pre-Course Assessments (at www.nratraining.com)
10:41 <@oddball> So... with the semi-auto, the Ruger 10/22 is kind of the default plinking semi-auto.  It runs about $300 and up.  I really like my Marlin 795, which runs about $150.
10:42 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Gander Mountain has .22 ammo available on Saturday mornings here, so I need to go stand in line to pick up some since they ration it.
10:42 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I'm a fan of the Remington TargetMaster for a bolt-action (single-shot).  Perfect for safety instruction.  For a semi-auto I have a Marlin 60 and an old Remington Speedmaster.
10:43 <@oddball> I should probably get off my ass at some point and take the NRA instructor courses.
10:43 <@Dolemite> Good luck finding offerings in TN
10:44 <@oddball> Yeah... you were telling me that.  Pistol isn't to hard, though.
10:49 <@wilpig> I swear our NY office is insane
10:49 <@wilpig> today for lunch they are having "Mexicue!"
10:50 <@wilpig> wtf... https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ssidyqhy9o5gzu/Screen%20Shot%202014-11-05%20at%2010.49.45%20AM.png?dl=0
10:51 <@Shadow404> pulled wilpig, yummy
10:52 <@Dolemite> The Pistol/Rifle/etc courses aren't that hard to find, but the instructor courses are just non-existent
10:53 <@Shadow404> is the marlin tube or clip?
10:53 <@Shadow404> not a bad $
10:56 <@Mirage> Shadow404: which Marlin?
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10:59 < Synx|hm> why is it that as soon as its 2min to the start of a 1 hour conf call does my body decide i have to poop
10:59 < Synx|hm> like emergency poop POOPCON 1
10:59 <@wilpig> Synx|hm: laptop + wifi = pooping while on a conference call
10:59 <@brimstone> someone on the call has a very soothing voice?
10:59 <@wilpig> live dangerously
11:00 < Synx|hm> im terrified of the mute button, i've made mistakes before
11:00 < Synx|hm> few f-bombs and one massive fart
11:00 <@timoguin> farts are scary business
11:00 <@wilpig> only the hot ones
11:00 <@wilpig> you can't ever trust a hot fart
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11:05 < Synx|hm> maybe perhaps i dont want my boss and the VP above my boss to recieve 20 emails when im doing massive updates to my linkedin profile because im looking for another job
11:05 < Synx|hm> god damn it linkedin
11:12 <@Shadow404> Mirage: 795
11:12 <@Mirage> Looks like a Mag to me.. http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/selfloading/795.asp
11:12 <@GateKeeper> Title: Marlin Model 795 (at www.marlinfirearms.com)
11:13 <@Shadow404> ok
11:13 <@Mirage> My Model 60 is most definitely tube: http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/selfloading/60.asp
11:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Marlin Model 60 (at www.marlinfirearms.com)
11:15 <@Mirage> If you're so inclined, you can slap a scope on the Model 60 as well.   I put one on mine because it's cheaper practice on using a scope for the wife.
11:15 <@benthemeek> Anyone want to go see the movie Interstellar after 2600 this friday?
11:15 <@brimstone> benthemeek: are you benthemeek@gmail.com?
11:15 <@benthemeek> Or wait, does anyone plan to come to JJ's this friday? I know Dru wont be there
11:15 <@benthemeek> indeed
11:16 <@brimstone> k
11:16  * brimstone waits for benthemeek to reply
11:16 <@benthemeek> brimstone: yes
11:17 <@benthemeek> benthemeek is not a cool enough hax0r name for there to be more than one in my experience.. unless someone trolls me
11:17 <@wilpig> shouldn't the president show up to the meeting?  just causing shit now
11:17 <@wilpig> I was thinking about seeing interstellar next week
11:17 <@wilpig> we have 50 tickets to a private screening
11:18 <@benthemeek> The reviews are amazing and it looks like it might be more hard sci-fi (which I love)
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11:19 <@benthemeek> wilpig: I think right now everyone is in drama avoidance mode including me. I fault noone for not wanting to come to the meeting.
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11:22 <@oddball> That Marlin 795 is essentially the 60 except fed with a box mag instead of a tube.
11:23 <@oddball> I was planning on coming to the meeting.
11:23 <@oddball> I figured it would be a debrief on how the con went.
11:23 <@oddball> benthemeek: Do you know why Dru isn't showing up?
11:24 <@benthemeek> I think he said he would be out of town
11:24 <@oddball> ah, ok
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11:25 <@benthemeek> I can't remember why exactly but he gave a reason, I was loading my car at the time and my brain was running slow
11:25 <@oddball> Big questions for Friday: what the attendance was, and how deep in the hole are we with the hotel?
11:27 <@wilpig> hahah avoid the meeting where everyone goes "WTF JUST HAPPENED"
11:28 <@ignotus-sdf> Aside from our health stuff lately, we just stayed away. But I AM curious how it went.
11:29 < aestetix> I do wish I could have gone
11:29 < aestetix> but honestly even if PN had happened in san francisco I couldn't have made it
11:29 < aestetix> I've been so fucking busy lately... and sick
11:29 <@oddball> suck
11:30 <@oddball> The couple talks I saw Saturday afternoon were interesting.
11:30 < aestetix> cool
11:30 <@benthemeek> Did you get to hear Les Johnson oddball?
11:30 <@oddball> yep
11:30 <@benthemeek> Im sort of a space nut so I really liked his stuff.
11:32 < aestetix> I will be honest
11:32 < aestetix> even though I have seen it over a dozen times
11:32 < aestetix> I still tend to like Elonka's talks the most
11:32 < aestetix> she's just a good speaker
11:32 <@oddball> I watched Decius' 2nd ammendment talk Monday.  Good overview of the court cases that have dealt with it, but nothing I hadn't heard/read before.  Of course, I've done serious research on that subject...
11:33 <@oddball> Absolutely.
11:33 <@benthemeek> I had never heard of the court cases pre civilwar where states were banning their use
11:33 < aestetix> oh that sounds cool
11:33 < aestetix> oddball: link?
11:33 <@benthemeek> It really brings in to perspective that this has been a ongoing experiment since its inception and not just how we interpret law differently today
11:34 <@benthemeek> http://youtu.be/fOc7vXnaakY
11:34 <@oddball> benthemeek: Yeah... and the findings were a bit different than modern findings.  They really leaned on the idea of the 2nd amendment only applying to weapons fit for war.
11:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: How the Second Amendment Works - YouTube (at youtu.be)
11:35 <@oddball> So, by the logic used then, a large knife can be banned/regulated, but not, say, an M-16.
11:35 <@benthemeek> I kind of wish Decius would run for office
11:35 <@oddball> heh
11:36 <@benthemeek> Hes just so brilliant and passionate about his research politically.
11:37 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING
11:37 <@shapr> yow!
11:37  * shapr hugs Shadow404
11:37 <@oddball> hey shapr
11:37 <@shapr> howdy oddball! How's code?
11:38 <@oddball> It seems to keep running, so good.
11:39 <@benthemeek> aestetix: I had a conversation with a friend yesterday about Kafka and thought about you
11:40 <@shapr> oddball: doing anything interesting?
11:40 <@oddball> nope
11:40 < aestetix> benthemeek: I didn't know Kafka wrote about vaginas
11:41 <@benthemeek> aestetix: amazing what ideas an odd speaker bio posted on the phreaknic page could introduce
11:41 < aestetix> what?
11:42 <@benthemeek> We were discussing the metamorphosis
11:42 <@benthemeek> something I wouldnt have ever stumbled across had you not told me about it
11:42 < aestetix> man that story is so twisted
11:43 < aestetix> oh cool!
11:44 < Synx|hm> ok someone learn me on SSL/TLS right quick, why would a URL not work on one win8 box (8.1) and work on another 8.0
11:44 < Synx|hm> its not DNS
11:44 < Synx|hm> and on the 8.1 it doesn't work in Firefox, Chrome, or IE
11:44 < Synx|hm> have a coworker with same issue now to same URL
11:44 < Synx|hm> on win7 ent
11:44 < aestetix> is it an ssl verification issue?
11:45 < aestetix> also, do you have all the necessary root/chain certs?
11:45 < Synx|hm> none of the browsers how an error just timed out or conn reset
11:45 < Synx|hm> and it should be a default CA, its a major company domain
11:45 < aestetix> ok
11:45 < aestetix> can you do basic things like ping the domain?
11:46 < Synx|hm> let me check but im guessing ICMP reply is blocked
11:46 < aestetix> can you access the url on http?
11:47 < Synx|hm> nope
11:47 < Synx|hm> you try it
11:47 < Synx|hm> vpn.ual.com
11:48 <@Mirage> should that be "Ya'll" instead of "ual"?  =)
11:48 < Synx|hm> no its united air lines
11:49 < aestetix> that url is not loading for me
11:49 < Synx|hm> ya thats the issue
11:50 < Synx|hm> works on some box's but not others
11:50 < Synx|hm> coworker said same thing wont work on his main desktop but works on other windows box
11:50 < Synx|hm> let me patch up date my 8.0 box and see if something kills it
11:50 < Synx|hm> maybe they are doing SSL/TLS in a dangerous way like poodle
11:50 <@Mirage> GeoTrust Signing Cert, so it shouldn't be a trust issue
11:55 <@oddball> OH, wilpig, you still carry that lockblade up there?
12:01 <@benthemeek> For anyone *cough* brimstone *cough* who was interested/helped/had ideas for NetKOH at phreaknic Keith just set up this list https://mailman.cc.gatech.edu/mailman/listinfo/netkoth
12:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: NetKotH Info Page (at mailman.cc.gatech.edu)
12:01 <@brimstone> <_<
12:03 <@timoguin> wut dat!?
12:04 <@benthemeek> timoguin: You mean Network King of the hill?
12:05 <@timoguin> yesh.
12:06 < Synx|hm> yup its a windows patch that briks that site
12:07 <@benthemeek> There were 7 severs up on a network that you would attempt to get into and deface the websites with your name. The longer your name stayed on the website additional points were given by the minute. The boxes has several ways in so you had to secure them from others once you take them.
12:08 <@timoguin> ah cool
12:09 <@benthemeek> Brimstone is the only one to actually get all of them. The most clever way of which was to arp poison the cache and redirect it to a website of his making for one host that proved particularly difficult to crack
12:10 <@benthemeek> Finally they just refused to post his scores anymore he did so well so they reset them all and lets newbs such as myself try
12:10 <@brimstone> good times
12:10 <@benthemeek> It was
12:12 <@timoguin> haha nice
12:13 <@oddball> Yeah... I remember them talking about liking the king of the hill idea over capture the flag, since it gives the n00bs a chance to do *something* and maybe learn something.
12:13 <@brimstone> i was working on setting up on VM to keep popping the other two
12:14 <@brimstone> turns out metasploit really wants to write to some production log and only root owns that on a kali instance
12:14 <@benthemeek> What happened if it couldn't write to the log?
12:15 <@brimstone> it just exits :/
12:15 <@benthemeek> yuck
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12:23 < aestetix> penis
12:24 <@wilpig> oddball: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q32go24js5ohp8e/2014-11-05%2012.24.14.jpg?dl=0
12:25 <@oddball> Just making sure you know that thing is too safe for NYC and might get you into legal trouble.
12:25 <@wilpig> they aren't taking my knife
12:25 <@wilpig> I laughed when I went to primus the other ngiht and went through security with it
12:26 <@wilpig> I saw the security check and just palmed with with my keys and walked through the pat down
12:26 <@oddball> The security guys missed it?
12:26 <@oddball> And well.. I guess you have the advantage of not being a black guy while carrying it.
12:26 <@wilpig> worst security check ever.  didn't even hit my back pockets
12:26 <@wilpig> one had my phone, the other my ds
12:26 <@wilpig> I laughed when I went through
12:27 <@oddball> Recently saw another article about someone going to jail because they were caught carrying a similar knife.  Not "oh, and he was mugging someone with it," just carrying it.
12:27 <@oddball> So... pure security theater.
12:28 <@wilpig> i'll be making another trip through security theater in a few weeks when i head down y'alls direction
12:28 <@oddball> oh?
12:29 <@wilpig> flying in on thanksgiving then driving up to mom's
12:29 <@oddball> Ah
12:40 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhxssi4cmqyretn/2014-11-05%2012.40.33.png?dl=0
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13:04 <@wilpig> oh dolemite...  clearly the propaganda machine is spinning yarns and many of them.  https://medium.com/codame-art-tech/music-city-hackers-c11d63d5fab7  "The next PhreakNIC event is in May 2015."
13:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Music City Hackers — ART + TECH — Medium (at medium.com)
13:04 <@wilpig> I do believe you local folks have some work to do and a body to bury
13:05 < aestetix> ok can someone explain this
13:05 < aestetix> https://www.doubleunion.org/
13:05 <@wilpig> lesbians?
13:05 < aestetix> they emphasize all this shit about being safe space
13:05 < aestetix> but they make a list of their members public
13:06 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I can't even grasp the insanity in that
13:06 <@oddball> I'm stuck at the "girlz only" thing.
13:08 <@wilpig> second time I read such a thing this morning
13:10 <@oddball> http://www.tickld.com/x/the-most-terrifying-night-ever-this-man-is-hilarious
13:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Most Terrifying Night Ever. This Man Is Hilarious. (at www.tickld.com)
13:13 < aestetix> oddball: yeah it is fucking stupid
13:17 <@wilpig> I want a blimp now
13:20  * Bahhumbug considers a mom joke
13:20 <@benthemeek> wilpig: Thats a nice write up
13:20 <@benthemeek> I mean it was cool that he commented.
13:21 <@wilpig> benthemeek: i think you missed the point
13:21 <@benthemeek> wilpig: As to the phreaknic event in may, I think it might be good to wait and see if funds/attendees/speakers can be raised for such
13:22 <@benthemeek> Well I will bring up what you said when next I see them about there being a whole lot going on that month in the area
13:23 <@wilpig> you should probably ask the sane, logical question about what happens now when that shit doesn't happen in may and the toll it will take on phreaknic's reputation, the word of you folks supposedly running things, etc
13:24  * benthemeek nods
13:24 <@wilpig> because trying to make that happen then is clearly utterly insane
13:24 <@benthemeek> If we are announcing it we need to follow through for certain
13:24 <@wilpig> if you only had 100 folks turn out...  that's ridiculous pie in the sky thinking that it would happen
13:24 <@benthemeek> Maybe it can just be a day long event at a hotel conference room seomwhere
13:25 <@benthemeek> Im not sure what Dru has in mind
13:25 <@wilpig> of course when you aren't playing with your own money you can just throw that shit around all you want
13:25 <@wilpig> that wouldn't be phreaknic. and that shit needs to be made crystal fucking clear
13:26 <@benthemeek> So you are thinking this mini-con or whatever should have a totally different name and be distanced from the existing con
13:26 <@brimstone> Phreaknic II: Electric Boogaloo
13:27  * benthemeek looks up boogaloo
13:27 <@benthemeek> @define Boobaloo
13:27 <@GateKeeper> benthemeek: Urban Dictionary: Boobaloo: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Boobaloo>; Urban Dictionary: SUGAR BOOGER: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SUGAR%20BOOGER>; Urban Dictionary: boobalicious: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boobalicious>; Kylie: Meaning, Popularity, Origin of Baby Name Kylie | Baby Name ...: (3 more messages)
13:27 <@benthemeek> @define Boogaloo
13:27 <@GateKeeper> benthemeek: Urban Dictionary: boogaloo: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boogaloo>; Boogaloo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogaloo>; boogaloo: definition of boogaloo in Oxford dictionary (American ...: <http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/boogaloo>; boogaloo - Definition from Longman English Dictionary Online: (2 more messages)
13:28 <@benthemeek> brimstone: perhaps. Dru very much wants to get the experimental music scene involved
13:29 <@Bahhumbug> Is that another term for "noise"?
13:29 <@wilpig> Dru Delusion v1 :: May 2015
13:29 <@Dolemite> Bahhumbug: Yes
13:30 <@brimstone> Springnic
13:30 <@wilpig> and if you want to talk minicon in teh spring there's geeknic
13:30 <@Dolemite> RedNIC Rampage
13:30 <@brimstone> Woodstock II
13:30 <@wilpig> no schedule, just booze and probably some trees
13:30 <@Dolemite> Otter hunting!
13:30 <@Dolemite> There is a schedule
13:30 <@wilpig> and definitely otter hunting
13:30 <@Dolemite> Eating in the morning
13:31 <@Dolemite> Drinking at night
13:31 <@benthemeek> I plan to attend Geeknic
13:31 <@Dolemite> Otter hunting/hiking in between
13:31 <@wilpig> remind me to make a schedule later.  I have a funny idea
13:32 <@benthemeek> Well I will voice the same concern with Dru when next I see him. He may not agree and for what it is worth he might be able to pull off a sizable mini con
13:32 <@wilpig> not with nashville2600 money
13:32 <@Dolemite> Isn't that what PN18 was?
13:32 <@benthemeek> If it doesnt hurt ... *shrugs*
13:33 <@Dolemite> *ding* wilpig hit that nail on the head
13:33 <@Bahhumbug> Dolemite: +1  That was amusing.
13:33 <@wilpig> this minicon is the shit he was talking about the bylaws not allowing him to do
13:34 <@Dolemite> The bank account isn't his to do with as he pleases.  The whole corporation was set up to support an ANNUAL conference called PhreakNIC.  That is very clear in the scope of the non-profit.
13:35 <@wilpig> I'm very curious to see numbers from this event.
13:36 <@Bahhumbug> Anyone that is a dues-paying member of the organization has a right to see the books.  Just sayin'
13:36 < aestetix> benthemeek: you know, you could just spread a false rumor that skydogcon2015 is cancelled
13:36 <@Bahhumbug> (That excludes me)
13:37 <@wilpig> we;ve never made the exact numbers public but they were always available should someone ever want ot see them
13:37 <@benthemeek> Is it required to make them public?
13:38 < aestetix> failing that, promote fake speakers at skydogcon
13:38 <@wilpig> oddball and Dagmar I'd be expecting to be asking for those especially coming to attendance, money raised from that and then the cost of everything
13:38 <@Dolemite> There is an annual report that is required to be file with the State of TN to mainain the corporation
13:38 <@wilpig> cost to the hotel, printing/swag costs, whatever else money was spent on
13:38 <@wilpig> money raised from sponsors.
13:38 < aestetix> like Willard Hansen, who will be speaking about his self-published book on bug collecting
13:39 < aestetix> Or Joe Packniss who would be giving a talk about memory but forgot his slides
13:40 <@benthemeek> aestetix: I am no going to troll skydogcon ;)
13:40 < aestetix> benthemeek: don't make Willard cry.
13:41 <@Bahhumbug> Any non-profits balance sheets can be requested by any paying member at any time.  There is some window of time between the request and the sheet being made available.  I don't believe the entire ledger needs to be seen but I could be wrong.
13:42 <@Bahhumbug> At least this is how it was explained to me over a school-related organization (a PTA) last year.
13:42 <@Bahhumbug> They may be under some different requirement system?  Not sure.
13:43 <@wilpig> Dolemite: is your communicator set up to do calls?
13:43 <@Dolemite> kinda sorta
13:44 <@Dolemite> phone is much easier to deal with though
13:45 < aestetix> maybe phreaknic can host a stage performance of "Butt Play" starring Shadow404 and Corydon
13:45 <@wilpig> just trying to see if it's my connection to vandy being dumb or just lync in general
13:45 <@Dolemite> So do we need to start looking at having talks at geeknic?  Apparently there's no longer a place for most of SE2600 to go to.
13:45 <@Dolemite> Well lync just restarted on me
13:45 <@Dolemite> You must have tried to do a video call
13:45 <@wilpig> I did!
13:45 <@wilpig> now that's a feature!
13:46 <@Mirage> Official talks at GeekNIC?!
13:47 < aestetix> can I give a talk?
13:47 <@Mirage> no
13:47 <@Mirage> Call for papers was last monthm you missed it
13:47 <@Mirage> =P
13:47 <@Shadow404> ok, i know we rag on google alot
13:48 <@Shadow404> but their phone support kicked ass
13:48 < aestetix> google has phone support?
13:48 <@Shadow404> call back within 20sec
13:48 <@Shadow404> and he resolved sync issue within 2 mins
13:48 <@Shadow404> google play support
13:49 <@oddball> Dolemite: Actually, I know a guy in your neck of the woods that runs a gun shop.  Don't know if he has what you're wanting in stock, but he's a good guy and won't fuck you over.
13:49 <@Shadow404> unless dole wanted that?
13:49 <@Mirage> "Hi, Google?   Yeah, I was trying to find 'Left-handed albino midget eskimo' porn and the search came up with too few results.  Could you look into that?"
13:49 <@Dolemite> oddball: Would appreciate the contact info
13:50 <@Shadow404> Mirage: they could solve that
13:50 <@oddball> Let me see if I can find his gun shop info.  He also makes custom leather holsters.
13:50 < aestetix> Mirage: that reminds me of cuil.... and specifically when porn accidentally leaked into their search results
13:52 <@oddball> I think this is his address: 1956-B Oak Ridge Turnpike
13:52 <@oddball> Oak Ridge, TN. 37830
13:53 <@oddball> His website is https://www.dragonleatherworks.com/
13:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Custom Handmade Leather Holsters: Dragon Leatherworks (at www.dragonleatherworks.com)
13:55 <@Dolemite> meetin' time
13:55 <@oddball> The "Dragon's Hoard" section shows what guns he can order from his distributer.
13:55 <@Mirage> aestetix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB9DSWxtsgU
13:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dead Milkmen - Lesbian Eskimo Midget Left-Handed Ninja Albino.flv - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:56 <@oddball> And he's got a physical shop up and running.  Oh, and he'll do FFL transfers (order from someone else) for $25.
13:56 <@Dickie> I'm especially fond of The Woman Who is Also a Mongoose
13:57 <@Mirage> Dunno where the moron who uploaded it came up with adding "ninja" in there
13:57 <@oddball> Will probably beat Gander Mountain.  Their prices tend to be pretty damned high.
13:57 <@Mirage> i think just about anything beats Gander Mtn prices
13:58 <@oddball> Pretty much, yeah.  I just remember Dolemite mentioning them earlier.
13:58 <@Mirage> It's the closest thing to his house
13:59 <@oddball> Isn't Dolemite in Oak Ridge, or does he just work there?
13:59 <@Mirage> works there
14:00 <@oddball> Ah, ok.
14:01 <@Mirage> lol.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGEzSJIFicY
14:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Scaredy Cat - Simons Cat (A Halloween Special) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:05 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsl_auoGuy4
14:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: An Engineers Guide to Cats 2.0 - The Sequel - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:08 <@oddball> Dolemite: Oh, a few folks in another channel reminded me.  Probably best to stay away from Remington right now.  Their QC has been... less than stellar lately.
14:12 <@CRasH180> good to know
14:17 <@wilpig> hahah you cannot leave teh dc folks alone without work for too long.  trouble happens
14:19 < aestetix> so apparently only 13% of millennials came out to vote
14:24 <@oddball> Young folks almost always fail to show up to the polls.
14:28 < aestetix> They never fail to complain though.
14:32 < aestetix> So I have a new idea
14:33 < aestetix> Every time some issue in Oakland comes up that needs attention, I'm going to register a bunch of names related to the topic tospeak at city council
14:33 < aestetix> For example, I think it would be great to get a visit from the entire cast of Blade Runner
14:34 < aestetix> first name: "Harrison Ford" last name "Is a replicant"
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14:44 <@oddball> Huh... the Xorg session on my linux box fell down hard enough that I had to reboot to fix it.
14:50 <@wilpig> impressive
14:55 <@shapr> wow, how'd that happen?
14:56 <@shapr> oddball: anything nifty in ~/.xsession-errors or /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
14:58 <@shapr> I just discovered that the nvidia drivers repeatedly query my monitors to see if they support nvidia 3d, hundreds of lines of: Display (Acer AL2216W (DFP-2)) does not support NVIDIA 3D Vision stereo.
14:59 <@oddball> Looks like it was freaking out trying to determin what resolution my monitor was.
14:59 <@shapr> failed to read EDID?
14:59 <@oddball> I guess
14:59 <@shapr> long after startup?
14:59 <@oddball> yep
14:59 <@shapr> severely weird
14:59 <@shapr> loose cable?
15:00 <@oddball> The resolution was off, and I was trying to fix it.  Anything I changed it to resulted with garbage on the screen.  I decided to try to restart Xorg to see if that would fix it, and... Xorg goes "weeeee.... thud."
15:00 <@oddball> reboot of the machine fixed it.
15:02 <@shapr> ouch
15:05 <@oddball> Fortunately, this is a home machine, so no issue with that.
15:07 <@shapr> I really like that X is network-native
15:08 <@shapr> I keep talking to windows ppl who are all excited about VNC
15:08 <@shapr> then I show them ssh -X and they're all like "oh"
15:08 <@oddball> Still need to figure out why this machine isn't properly auto-mounting the 4 3TB drives, but... meh.
15:11 <@shapr> I need to figure out why my laptop tries and fails to bring up eth0 when connecting to wifi, but still sets eth0 as the default route
15:11 <@shapr> doesn't cause problems when I ifdown eth0, but causes problems until then
15:17 <@opticron> shapr, I've seen this, too
15:17 <@opticron> I think it's avahi being stupid on my machine
15:17 <@opticron> wifi works initially, but then goes unusable when the not-plugged-in ethernet interface comes up?
15:18 <@shapr> right
15:18 <@opticron> if I run ifconfig when it's in that state, I see an eth0:avahi interface with a 169 address
15:18 <@shapr> but ifdown eth0 fixes that ... well, probably until the next reboot
15:18 <@shapr> right, me too!
15:19 <@opticron> yeah, it's hateful
15:19 <@opticron> I want to disable avahi just to make it not happen anymore
15:19 <@shapr> I love avahi :-(
15:19 <@opticron> shapr, debian sid?
15:19 <@shapr> link local names, so many fun tays
15:19 <@shapr> toys*
15:19 <@shapr> opticron: yes, exactly!
15:19 <@opticron> yeah, that's what I'm running
15:19 <@opticron> they must have broken avahi recently
15:19 <@shapr> or whatever debian/unstable is these days
15:19 <@shapr> yeah, it was an upgrade
15:19 <@opticron> it's always sid
15:19 <@shapr> ok, spiffy
15:19 <@shapr> oh right, the mean kid?
15:20 <@opticron> sid is rolling release
15:20 <@opticron> yeah
15:24 <@benthemeek> brimstone: am I the one that messed up your vertical scoreboard because I didn't get enough points? I was looking back through the pictures of the board
15:24 <@brimstone> nah
15:24 <@brimstone> it didn't run long enough
15:24 <@brimstone> no worries
15:24 <@benthemeek> Neat idea though
15:25 <@brimstone> thanks!
15:32 < Synx|hm> ok somebody smarter than i help me with this
15:32 < Synx|hm> https://vpn.ual.com
15:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: Check Point SSL Network Extender (at vpn.ual.com)
15:33 < Synx|hm> does not work in any new Firefox/Chrome browser, and Win8.1 update
15:33 < Synx|hm> i dont see any heartbleed issue
15:33 < Synx|hm> the certs are not 1024 they are 2048
15:33 < Synx|hm> and TLSv1 SSLv3 and SSLv2 are advertised
15:34 <@brimstone> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=vpn.ual.com&hideResults=on
15:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Qualys SSL Labs - Projects / SSL Server Test / vpnualcom (at www.ssllabs.com)
15:34 < Synx|hm> this will only work in IE on a Win8 (not 8.1) and Win7 box for me
15:34 <@brimstone> it's a SHA1 fingerprint
15:34 <@brimstone> not a SHA2 :/
15:34 <@brimstone> did Chrome kill SHA1 fingerprints already?
15:35 < Synx|hm> if they did then so did microsoft and firefox
15:35 <@brimstone> wow, that's not a great rating
15:36 < Synx|hm> so um you get an F for using SSLv2
15:36 < Synx|hm> but you cant use SSLv3
15:36 <@brimstone> and you get a C i think for using SSLv3
15:36 < Synx|hm> so if you are poodle protected you always get an F
15:36 <@brimstone> This server is vulnerable to the POODLE attack. If possible, disable SSL 3 to mitigate. Grade capped to C.
15:36 < Synx|hm> exactly so what else is there SSLv1?
15:36 < Synx|hm> or is there something newer?
15:37 <@brimstone> all of the TLS versions are newer than SSL versions
15:37 < Synx|hm> ahh right
15:37 <@brimstone> and currently presumed better
15:37 < Synx|hm> ok now back to the issue at hand why have MS, Mozilla, and Google dropped support for something here and cause the website to not load
15:38 <@brimstone> because SHA1 is bad?
15:40 <@brimstone> works in curl, not in firefox in debian
15:40 <@shapr> I use shae256
15:41 < Synx|hm> brimstone: i cant find anything about microsoft and google/mozilla disableing all SHA1 certs from loading
15:41 <@Dickie> Artisian hashing
15:41 <@Dickie> I make my own
15:42  * Dickie rides off on his penny-farthing
15:42  * shapr hacks Dickie's penny-farthing into a UNICYCLE
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15:44 <@brimstone> Synx|hm: http://sha1affected.com/
15:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: SHA1 Chrome Checker (at sha1affected.com)
15:44 <@brimstone> http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/gradually-sunsetting-sha-1.html
15:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: Google Online Security Blog: Gradually sunsetting SHA-1 (at googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.co.uk)
15:45 <@brimstone> https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2014/09/23/phasing-out-certificates-with-sha-1-based-signature-algorithms/
15:45 <@brimstone> http://blogs.technet.com/b/pki/archive/2013/11/12/sha1-deprecation-policy.aspx
15:45 < Synx|hm> brimstone: per that first link google says that website should load fine
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15:45 <@brimstone> dunno, doesn't work for me either
15:46 < Synx|hm> and the ms link says windows will stop accepting sha1 in 2017
15:46 < Synx|hm> so i think its something else
15:46 < Synx|hm> possibly the ciphers?
15:47 <@brimstone> maybe?
15:47 <@brimstone> i see The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
15:47 < Synx|hm> same here
15:48 < Synx|hm> and oddly sslscan doesn't pull the cert it stops half way in
15:49 < Synx|hm> even stranger IE 11.0.13 in Win7 works but 11.0.13 in 8.1 does not
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15:54 <@brimstone> got me
15:54 <@brimstone> i am not a windows guy
15:54 < Synx|hm> ya
15:54 < Synx|hm> shrug
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16:39 <@Dagmar> http://gizmodo.com/gmail-will-give-anyone-an-invite-to-inbox-for-one-hour-1655095250
16:39 <@Dagmar> 5PM today
16:43 <@oddball> So... talking in another channel about this.  What's so special about this new Inbox thing?
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16:45 <@shapr> oddball: I like the ability to instantly turn any email into a reminder with date or location triggered popup, or just add it to a todo list without any reminder
16:46 <@oddball> Ok, that's neat
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16:53 < aestetix> oddball: it appears to be a widget that lets 20something hipsters use email with their iPhones
16:54 < aestetix> I watched the video a few times and it didn't make much sense.
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16:57 < aestetix> oddball: my issue with these servies is that they say they save you time, but they don't suggest what to do with that spare time
16:57 < aestetix> which means you inevitably wind up just doing more shit
17:01 <@oddball> But... you can already check gmail on the iPhone.
17:05 < aestetix> don't ask me
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17:30  * aestetix sighs
17:30 < aestetix> Is it just me, or is it sketchy for a place to send you a contract at 2pm, saying they want it signed and returned by EOB same day?
17:31 < aestetix> Since that doesn't really leave time to do things like read the contract.
17:32 <@wilpig> depends on how long it's taken you to negotiate that contract
17:33 <@wilpig> if it's been a back and forth kind of thing and there are financial terms in it that are based on a daily rate or something I don't see that as out of hte ordinary
17:35 < aestetix> No back and forth, it's out of the blue.
17:35 < aestetix> I was expecting it, but I didn't know what the terms would be.
17:38 <@wilpig> how many times did you mention penis or vagina to them during negotiations?
17:38 < aestetix> haha
17:38 < aestetix> don't forget poonis
17:39 <@wilpig> so it might not be sketchy at all and they just don't want to talk to you anymore.  ;)
17:44 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSN6Sp1S10s LOL
17:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: Baby Robot Penguin ...For Science! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:49 <@wilpig> someone tricked me into looking at my damn stocks.  the bastards.
17:49 <@wilpig> +$430.92 (+0.81%) 
17:50 < aestetix> http://gearjunkie.com/the-rise-of-the-lumbersexual
17:50 <@wilpig> 300 shares of stock vested.... 127 shares of that stock traded for taxes...
18:02  * aestetix queues up another "life in the US sucks" rant
18:03 < aestetix> all I can say is I'm happy I'm not graduating into this economy
18:05 < RangerZ1> what do you mean? wanting to get an 'intro level' job that requires 5 years experience in 4 different random fields/software
18:06 < aestetix> In an at will state working for a sociopathic boss who doesn't understand the concept of loyalty and treats everyone like a machine cog
18:06 < aestetix> At least in the bay area, everyone around here who isn't a tech worker looks like their soul is crushed
18:08 < aestetix> Is it like that in nashville?
18:09 < RangerZ1> pretty much, but they crush tech worker souls here first... just look at NotLarry Dagmar and wilpig
18:09 < RangerZ1> I rest my case
18:09 < RangerZ1> ;) lol
18:09 < aestetix> lol
18:09 <@oddball> Yeah... tech workers tend to get fucked up the ass around here.
18:09 < aestetix> tech workers aren't crushed here, unless they try to have a life outside of work
18:10 < RangerZ1> thats crushed
18:11 < aestetix> lol
18:12 < aestetix> is it possible to be crushed without realizing it?
18:12 < RangerZ1> http://m.thenation.com/article/186425-work-speedups-have-consequences-boss-never-imagined
18:12 <@GateKeeper> Title: Americans Are Working So Hard It’s Actually Killing People | The Nation (at m.thenation.com)
18:12 < RangerZ1> that
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18:12 < RangerZ1> which is really intersting when you compare it to how slaves in the US picked 4x the cotton in 1850 than they did in 1800
18:13 < RangerZ1> b/c of ever increasing speedups
18:13 < RangerZ1> b/c if you didn't... you'd just get whipped
18:13 < RangerZ1> and now you'll just fear being fired
18:16 < RangerZ1> http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2014/11/03/contactless-payment-system-hacked.html HAHAHA
18:16 < aestetix> was that apple pay?
18:17 <@wilpig> aestetix: no.  currentC again
18:18 < RangerZ1> curentC is the QR code based on
18:20 <@Dagmar> Reminder: Now is the time to email inbox@google.com if you want a guaranteed invite by 6pm
18:22 <@oddball> I guess I'll poke at it.
18:26 < aestetix> I emailed to get an invite
18:27 < aestetix> I don't plan to use it. I plan to sell it.
18:28 < RangerZ1> hmm
18:28 < RangerZ1> interesting corydon said the same thing about aestetix
18:28 < RangerZ1> lol
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18:48 < RangerZ1> http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/11/05/1815251/ebola-nose-spray-vaccine-protects-monkeys ohh look
18:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ebola Nose Spray Vaccine Protects Monkeys - Slashdot (at science.slashdot.org)
18:48 < RangerZ1> we have a vaccine that is even needle-less... but we're dead in the water without funding
18:49 < RangerZ1> ....from congress....
18:49 < RangerZ1> so no vaccine
18:51 < RangerZ1> oddball: wilpig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOOhmN8ghLg
18:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: Mario Kart 8 Amiibo Trailer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:51 < aestetix> I wish cancer got the kind of attention that ebola is getting
18:51 < aestetix> I don't know anyone who has died of ebola. And sadly I have many friends who have died of cancer :/
18:52 < aestetix> well and family
18:52 < RangerZ1> yeah, but there is many different 'cancers'
18:52 < RangerZ1> and it does get 100sX more funding probably
18:52 < RangerZ1> just dispersed between all the different types
18:52 < RangerZ1> breast/prostate
18:52 < RangerZ1> etc
18:53 <@oddball> breast cancer, specifically, gets all sorts of funding.
18:54 <@Dagmar> That's because everyone likes boobies.
18:55 <@oddball> oh god... that makes me feel ols.  The "Teens React" series actually did one on the original N64 Smash Brothers.
18:56 < RangerZ1> oddball: hehe... "I remember that when I was in kindergarten" *sees a single tear fall from oddball's face*
18:56 < RangerZ1> hehe
18:56  * oddball shakes his cane
18:57 <@oddball> "I don't want to hurt anyone.  I don't want to win by killing people."  then you won't fucking win.
18:57 <@oddball> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgfxro8-iGw
18:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: SUPER SMASH BROS. (N64) (Teens React: Retro Gaming) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
18:58 <@oddball> One of them actually said that it came out the same year they were born.
19:02 < aestetix> RangerZ1: you were in kindergarten when n64 came out?
19:02 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck me.
19:03 <@Dagmar> After all that I look in my inbox and I got an invite at 1pm today already.
19:04 <@oddball> heh
19:23 <@wilpig> lol
19:30 < RangerZ1> oddball: nope... middle school
19:33 <@wilpig> oddball: I want to drown the entire lot of them
19:33 <@oddball> heh
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20:42 <@benthemeek> dude... I just nearly died. And from all things and apple peal..
20:42 <@benthemeek> an*
20:43 <@benthemeek> Couldn't breathe for like a full minute and noone was around for the hiemlick
20:43  * benthemeek makes a note to update his will
20:44 <@Dagmar> _Chew_.
20:44 <@benthemeek> no joke
20:45 <@benthemeek> apparently into finer bits that I was
20:46 <@benthemeek> than*
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21:31 <@wilpig> benthemeek: don't do that.
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22:21 <@oddball> benthemeek: That's ok... I had some grapes that tried to kill me the other day.
22:43 <@wilpig> what's this world coming to that you can't trust a grape to carry out its mission correctly?
22:48 <@oddball> Oh, two of them did a rather good job.  Shot their juice straight at the back of my throat and down the wrong tube when I bit into them.
22:49 <@Bahhumbug> @quote add <@oddball> Oh, two of them did a rather good job.  Shot their juice straight at the back of my throat and down the wrong tube when I bit into them.
22:49 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: By your command  Quote #66 added.
22:50 <@Bahhumbug> That just screamed at me to save it.
22:54 <@wilpig> lol
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23:45 <@wilpig> http://www.nerdist.com/vepisode/nerdist-presents-all-about-that-bass-star-wars-parody-starring-team-unicorn/
23:45 < Synx|hm> gmail down for anyone?
23:47 < Synx|hm> nm
23:47 <@wilpig> just people with the new inbox
23:47 <@wilpig> and on that note i'm out.  tired pig is tired
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