--- Log opened Sun Nov 02 00:00:20 2014
00:11 <@wilpig> oh shit!
00:11 <@wilpig> now that's an ending.  wow!
00:16 <@wilpig> now that's an ending.  wow!BBB
00:19 <@Dagmar> More importantly, I was _right_ about who Missy was
00:25 <@wilpig> I didn't see that one coming
00:25 <@wilpig> but it makes total sense
01:17 < aestetix> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/hiv-positive-shoplifter-infect-texas-walmart-worker-cops-article-1.1995408
01:22 < aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/2l0kjd/how_to_pay_off_about_1_million_in_student_loans/
01:22 < aestetix> note all the comments saying that the guy should be making way more than 100k
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01:36 <@Dagmar> He's going to have to fake his own death
01:36 <@Dagmar> EVen with 100k salary he'll be paying on that until he's retirement age
01:15 <@Dagmar> Man these smurfs are going to be mad in the morning
01:36 < RangerZ1> jesus... h...christ...
01:37 < RangerZ1> I have ~1/3 his earning potential, and if I got UP TO 1/10th the debt, I'd have to take out some loans... like enough for a tesla...
01:37 < RangerZ1> AND i mean the 300k one
01:38 < RangerZ1> there is no reason why he should have had to pay for dental school/etc
01:47 <@Dagmar> Not to the tune of a million dollars, no
01:47 <@Dagmar> Not unless he's planning on specializing in growing cybernetic teeth with their own wifi
01:49 < RangerZ1> and here I felt my loans being ~ 1 year (on the low end) worth of salary ... was a lot
02:27 <@Dagmar> LOL just had my second Ingress-related run-in with the police
02:27 <@Dagmar> No worries
02:41 <@Dagmar> LOL I just realized that Guy Fawkes mask was lying in my passenger floorboard, too.  heheheh
04:01  * RangerZ1 *coughs up blood* sleep is for the weak... 
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06:18 < aestetix> how was phreaknic?
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09:22 < aestetix> I just watched Spaceballs
09:22 < aestetix> haven't seen it in years
09:22 < aestetix> That movie would never make it today, which is sad because it's brilliant.
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10:09 <@wilpig> aestetix: why wouldn't it make it today?  cause it's campy?
10:10 <@wilpig> Dagmar: where were you that the cops stopped you?
10:10 <@wilpig> was it one of those cases like mine where they saw me go through the same neighborhood several times so they stopped me to see what I was doing?
10:15 < aestetix> wilpig: no, because it makes overt sexual references, and in general is too intelligent
10:16 < aestetix> Basically it's not possible for something to enter the American spectrum right now that is 1. controversial in any way 2. requires more than 2 brain cells to understand
10:19 < aestetix> Although I am willing to concede that's just the bay area
10:23 <@wilpig> I think they are still making movies like that they just aren't getting big theater time for the reasons that you stated
10:24 <@wilpig> what do you think about the movie "tusk"
10:24 < aestetix> unfamiliar with it
10:25 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCQJnOn0ru0
10:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Tusk | Official Trailer HD | A24 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:25 <@wilpig> i'll wait
10:27 <@wilpig> or this one.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8s_1UcdoNI
10:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Horns Official Trailer #1 (2014) - Daniel Radcliffe, Juno Temple Movie HD - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:27 <@wilpig> both are new and didn't get much theater time but I think both are fantastic
10:28 < aestetix> interesting
10:28 < aestetix> so the issue is 1. hollywood 2. what we call mainstream media
10:29 <@wilpig> yes
10:29 < aestetix> 3. the bay area sucks
10:30 < aestetix> also DC sucks for similar reasons
10:30 <@wilpig> there are still good stories out there and they are seldom being made.  the crap that the hollywood is putting out is formula based and watered down as to not offend the masses or at the very least offend the fewest people possible
10:31 <@wilpig> horns was bad ass.  I've watched it a few times now
10:32 < aestetix> let me put it this way
10:33 < aestetix> a few weeks ago I was at dinner with some "friends"
10:33 < aestetix> I mentioned I've been reading the Odyssey
10:33 < aestetix> and someone immediately said "have you gotten over the sexism yet?"
10:33 < aestetix> or something like that
10:34 <@wilpig> this is a problem in the bay
10:35 <@wilpig> and on tumblr
10:35 < aestetix> and on twitter
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10:36 <@wilpig> social media has just lowered the barrier to entry for mass communication
10:36 <@wilpig> as a result you're allowing the idiots to associate and form larger more vocal groups
10:36 < aestetix> and in turn lowered the IQ
10:37 <@wilpig> phones did that
10:37 < aestetix> you mean smartphones?
10:37 <@wilpig> yup
10:37 < aestetix> I don't have a smartphone, so that bit is hard to understand
10:37 <@wilpig> in high school I knew all the numbers of my friends as well as family, etc.  I might be able to tell you two or three of them now
10:38 < aestetix> well the thing is
10:38 < aestetix> when you export all your memory to a device
10:38 < aestetix> don't you also export all your decision making abilities and judgement?
10:38 <@wilpig> not necessarily
10:38 <@wilpig> but it could lead to poorer decision making or less informed decisions
10:39 < aestetix> well let me put it this way
10:39 < aestetix> I live in a culture where artists withold putting certain things on display because of fear that it might offend someone.
10:39 < aestetix> emphasis on "might"
10:40 <@wilpig> while generally i'd say that's a shame
10:40 < aestetix> here's an example
10:40 <@wilpig> however what some people consider art today, I might be inclined to say that's a public service
10:40 < aestetix> I was giving a talk at a cryptoparty, and a friend in the audience made a snarky comment. I told her to go fuck herself (she laughed)
10:40 < aestetix> after my talk, an organizer came up to me and chastised me because "she might have been offended by that"
10:41 < aestetix> keep in mind he yelled at me before he talked to her.... and she thought it was funny
10:41 <@wilpig> generally if you tell someone to go fuck themselves you intend for them to be at least slightly offended
10:41 < aestetix> but you see how that is fail on so many levels?
10:41 <@wilpig> very clearly
10:42 < aestetix> the organizer didn't undersatnd why this pissed me off
10:42 < aestetix> this is the status quo around here
10:42 <@wilpig> you have the butt hurt PC police going after anything that might make anyone even slightly upset so that you have a generation of idiots without a spine
10:42 < aestetix> I said "if you can't trust my judgement in saying snarky things to someone in the audience, how the hell can you trust me to give a talk?"
10:42 < aestetix> and he didn't have a good response
10:43 <@wilpig> where as if I told you to fuck off, you'd shrug it off and forget it quickly.  some of these dumbshits don't have the coping skills and then go and claim emotional trauma and they want to kill themselves
10:43 < aestetix> right
10:43 < aestetix> and the person I told it to..... well let's say I wouldn't say that to someone who didn't have the "coping skils"
10:43 <@wilpig> I would
10:44 < aestetix> lol
10:44 < aestetix> how about I wouldn't say that to someone I didn't know
10:44 < aestetix> or.. actually that's not true
10:44 <@wilpig> everyone needs to learn how to deal with shit they don't necessarily agree with
10:44 < aestetix> it's about context and these bay area kids fail at it
10:45 < aestetix> no I don't
10:45 < aestetix> I'm right
10:45 < aestetix> you know, I would NOT want to be in the complaint department at tumblr
10:45 < aestetix> I can't imagine the kind of bullshit they have to deal with
10:45 <@wilpig> it's alot
10:46 <@wilpig> couple thousand tickets a week
10:46 < aestetix> good god
10:47 < aestetix> I wonder if part of this emotional incapability is from all the self esteem bullshit schools have done over the last decade or two
10:52 <@wilpig> just figured out why my external drive on teh wii-u was't working.  damnit
10:52 < aestetix> it was offended by your irc comments?
10:52 <@wilpig> I have three bent pins in the sata connector
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10:53 <@wilpig> I knew this was a cheap shit converter, but damn
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11:02 <@SuMo_D> Wayne Static is dead :(
11:02 <@SuMo_D> so sad
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11:06 <@wilpig> what a cheap connector.  this thing was designed to fail
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11:21 <@oddball> aestetix: Yeah... we now live in a culture where people think they have the right to not be offended.
11:22 <@oddball> Don't like what someone is saying on Tumblr?  Are they saying things that fall under libel/slander? no? DON"T FUCKING READ THEIR TUMBLR.
11:23 <@wilpig> in their mind they aren't reading your tumblr, your content just appeared on their dashboard.  same thing with facebook
11:24 <@oddball> And, well, Facebook and Tumblr are not helping by removing/suspending accounts that offend people.
11:25 <@oddball> Have I told you about a guy I know that had his FB account suspended for the correct use of the word "chigger?"
11:32 <@wilpig> the dumbing down of america via the pc police
11:32 <@oddball> yep
11:32 <@oddball> And, I'm sorry, the concept of "Cyber bullying" pisses me off.
11:33 <@oddball> "but they're concstantly writing mean things about me!" "why are you reading them?"
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11:41 < SuMo_D_> oddball how as con?
11:42 < SuMo_D_> did you sneak into the all woman talk?
11:43 <@oddball> I didn't see that on the program.
11:44 <@oddball> I was there yesterday afternoon.  How deep we are in the hole for the hotel is a question of how much Dink's company is forking over for their sponsorship.
11:45 <@wilpig> how deep is the hotel hole currently?
11:46 <@oddball> No damn clue.  Remember that my requests to see the contract came back with a contract "that wasn't the final one, and we're not paying that much."
11:46 <@wilpig> oh I do recall that.  I figured someone might have said something
11:47 <@oddball> Oh... and apparently some asshat made a reservation for something like 15 rooms out of our room block, then cancelled them shortly after the cut off date, so... the hotel wasn't pleased about that.
11:47 <@wilpig> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
11:47 <@wilpig> who was it?  anyone I know?
11:48 <@oddball> they don't know.  Either the guy gave a false name, or the hotel isn't telling.
11:48 <@oddball> Although, I'm guessing you're going to get blamed for that.
11:48 <@wilpig> in that case i'm calling bullshit
11:48 <@wilpig> without a name from the hotel it's just spinning garbage about why they didn't hit the nights sold they agreed to in the contract
11:49 <@oddball> Well, that was a story I got from both Ben and Corydon.
11:49 <@wilpig> They can blame me for whatever they want
11:51 <@oddball> Oh... do you remember what attendance was last year?
11:51 <@wilpig> roughly 150
11:51 <@wilpig> it was super super low
11:51 <@oddball> That might be was attendance was this year... maybe.
11:52 <@oddball> I'd guess that would be the high side.
11:53 <@wilpig> it was a low bar to top but with the shit htey were pulling there isn't much hope for them to top it
11:53 <@wilpig> so you take low numbers combine it with more space for those people to lurk in and it makes it feel more empty than ever
11:54 <@wilpig> the cost is higher, the perception is lower attendance than ever.  this is a recipe for a bad memory and horrible word of mouth
12:02 < aestetix> oddball: chigger, as in a bug?
12:02 < aestetix> oddball: one of the foundational commandments of the internet is "don't feed the trolls"
12:03 <@oddball> yep
12:03 < aestetix> How is saying the word "chigger" offensive?
12:03 < aestetix> I mean they are annoying as fuck
12:03 < aestetix> chiggers, that is
12:03 <@wilpig> when you're an idiot and read it as nigger
12:03 < aestetix> ....
12:03 <@oddball> ding ding ding
12:03 < aestetix> Who the hell would do that?
12:03 <@wilpig> I just said an idiot
12:04 <@oddball> idiots who are trying to be offended.
12:04 < aestetix> Ok so they would get offended by "I was trying to sleep on my camping trip, but the damned chiggers kept me up all night"
12:04 <@wilpig> i'll also venture to guess that many people that have lived in the city their entire life might not know what a chiggar is
12:04 <@oddball> Or at least, folks that have never been to the south.
12:05 <@wilpig> and surely not know what chiggar weed is
12:05 < aestetix> or gone outside
12:05 <@wilpig> damn bike trails back where i grew up where surrounded by that shit
12:06 <@oddball> 'cause chiggers aren't a thing in the north.  They don't have them up there.
12:06 < aestetix> oddball: I assume anyone who has ever gone camping knows what a chigger is
12:07 < aestetix> Which apparently is not a good assumption to make.
12:07 <@wilpig> some people might not
12:07 <@wilpig> they could have chiggar bites and think they were mosquitos
12:07 <@wilpig> they both itch, they can both get you in your sleep
12:08 <@oddball> Well, there's also the thing that I would guess that a large portion of the fucktards that are easily offended think "roughing it" is staying at a low rent motel.
12:08 <@wilpig> that isn't ?
12:09 <@oddball> That said, I have met folks that have gone properly camping in, say, Michigan that never encountered that particular 8 legged blood sucker.
12:09 <@wilpig> imo if a hotel doesn't have hbo AND free wifi that's roughing it
12:09 <@oddball> So... the Hilton.
12:10 < aestetix> speaking of intolerance, it appears weev has been suspended from twitter
12:10 <@wilpig> i'm okay with that
12:11 < aestetix> I am not.
12:12 <@wilpig> that just gives me hope they'll shut down crazy pants
12:15 <@oddball> Oh... heh... I forgot... one of my friends had their FB account suspended for posting "I was once niggardly with a jigger full of chiggers. Tigger wanted that jigger with a vigor, but I refused. A Tigger with a jigger full of chiggers is a digger with rigor."
12:16 < aestetix> hahahhahaha
12:16 <@wilpig> wtf
12:16 <@wilpig> lol
12:16 < aestetix> oddball: did they know that "niggard" is not "nigger"?
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12:17 <@oddball> I'm guessing whoever complained did not.
12:17 <@wilpig> and whomever read the complaint didn't either
12:17 <@oddball> And FB is pretty firmly in the "suspend first, read the complaint latter" department.
12:18 <@wilpig> definitely
12:18 <@oddball> This is why I was confused about the latest hoopla over the mass suspending/banning of drag queens using stage names for their accounts.  It fits what I've seen FB do a thousand times before.
12:19 <@oddball> Also, I love how people think that the queens won.  FB basically said that they were going to continue doing exactly what they had been doing.
12:19 < SuMo_D_> yeah they're on to the next big interwebs scandal
12:19 < aestetix> so
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12:20 < aestetix> I'm gonna see if I can get a bunch of people angry about weev to get the ada initiative suspended from twitter
12:20 < SuMo_D_> can't think too hard for too long must send out next change.org petition for justice
12:20 < SuMo_D_> cause... ya know that works
12:20 <@oddball> heh
12:21 < aestetix> SuMo_D_: it works great for driving traffic to change.org
12:21 <@oddball> I actually wish more of the "we must do *something*" types would use change.org.  That way, they can think something is being done, and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
12:23 < aestetix> oddball: indeed
12:23 < aestetix> the problem is that actually doing something is hard and takes a long time
12:24 < SuMo_D_> ding ding ding
12:24 < SuMo_D_> we have a winner
12:24 <@oddball> That and the mentality that doing something is always better than not immediately jumping into action.
12:24 < SuMo_D_> also don't forget the politics
12:24 < aestetix> I mean, Oakland is about to release the first surveilance privacy policy in the country drafted by citizens
12:24 < aestetix> It took us 7 months to create it
12:25 < SuMo_D_> but that's foreeeeeevar
12:25 < SuMo_D_> I wants it yesterday!
12:25 <@oddball> "I have a spliter in my foot." "lop off the foot!" "wait... why don't we see how bad this splinter is..." "well, at least that guy is doing something, no thanks to you."
12:25 < aestetix> SuMo_D_: ok Veruca Salt
12:26 < SuMo_D_> so... here's a situation I'm in right now with my kids program... I've started working on getting a legit makerspace open in a city just south of us woo! Also organizing our big tech con for the spring woo! - they had an event in a city just north of us, that they wanted to highlight the kids... woo!  seems all good right everyone helping kids
12:27 < SuMo_D_> more robots woo!
12:27 < SuMo_D_> so... the guys in the north city, just got 1/2 mil committed to them publicly...
12:28 < SuMo_D_> and they sent an email to the kids running it (both 17) saying oh... well we see you're helping this conference and this southern city... we were going to ask you to help us raise more funds... but yeah can't now cause... yeah that
12:28 < SuMo_D_> I'm just like o_O politics are such shit....
12:30 < aestetix> so this is fun
12:30 < aestetix> when people now accuse me of being a white male I say I am neither
12:30 < SuMo_D_> its like we're all trying to do the right things... why ya gotta be jerks... its not like we even serve the same places... each place is about 45-hour drive from each other
12:30 < aestetix> "I'm not white, I'm irish. I'm not sure what you mean by male, but I don't watch football and wasn't in a frat"
12:32 <@oddball> SuMo_D_: I'm confused... they are refusing your help because they have money now?
12:32 < SuMo_D_> they want more money...
12:32 < SuMo_D_> and they were going to try highlight the kids program to get it
12:33 <@oddball> ah
12:33 < SuMo_D_> but they're pissed cause... we work with everyone
12:33 < SuMo_D_> and the kids running it don't give a shit
12:33 < SuMo_D_> they just want to share the joy of linux and robots
12:33 <@wilpig> it's supposed to be about the kids 
12:33 < SuMo_D_> with whoever will listen to them
12:33 <@oddball> Because... that's their fucking mission statement.
12:33 < SuMo_D_> yep
12:33 < SuMo_D_> supposed to be
12:33 < SuMo_D_> yeah... exactly
12:34 < SuMo_D_> it was the weirdest email... it was like we were going to highlight you but... sorry fuck you now
12:34 < SuMo_D_> and I asked the guys I was like... did you agree to this?
12:34 < SuMo_D_> and they were like... ummmm nope we just went to their event
12:34 < aestetix> One of the nice things about moving out of the bay area is I'm starting to feel more free to tell people to fuck themselves
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12:35 < aestetix> Of course using subtlety that they don't understand
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12:35 <@oddball> Oh, I've felt for a very long time that the entire bay area needs to be told to fuck off.
12:35 < SuMo_D_> RangerZ
12:35 < SuMo_D_> tell us your story
12:35 <@oddball> Oh... and let them know that their shit does, in fact, stink.
12:36 < SuMo_D_> what's up
12:36 < aestetix> oddball: I think the bay area just whines until someone comes and whipes their bitt
12:36 < aestetix> butt
12:36 <@oddball> yep
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12:36 <@oddball> And is then all superior about the fact that they're not wiping their butt.
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12:38 < SuMo_D_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqiVvOXotyw
12:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Static-X - Im With Stupid (Full Length Video) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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13:33 <@wilpig> freaky!  http://www.thesuperficial.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/28/kevin-smith-without-a-beard-435x580.jpg
13:41 <@klixa> whoever did that to him needs arrested
13:42 <@wilpig> he did!
13:51 < aestetix> weev getting suspended from twitter might be the final straw I needed to delete my account.
13:51 <@klixa> anyone have a gogle imbox invite?
13:51 <@klixa> why did they delete him
13:51 <@wilpig> not i
13:51 < aestetix> klixa: unsure
13:52 < aestetix> klixa: why are you asking for an invite to a service that will be disconnected in a year :p
13:52 <@klixa> reasons
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13:57 < aestetix> Amazingly, several people have just told me that it is not possible for a company to censor anything.
14:14 < RangerZ1> aestetix: then you need to stop talking with stupid people
14:15 < aestetix> Well
14:15 < RangerZ1> b/c 1 court orders 2 if they run the distribution network, then they can just not show the info
14:15 < aestetix> I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt
14:15 < aestetix> And not rely on common sense
14:15 < aestetix> So I went to wikipedia, where censorship is described.... in a fairly common sense manner
14:15 <@oddball> And there lies your weakness.
14:15 < RangerZ1> mind you... lowes can't censor me as long as i don't commit libel
14:15 < aestetix> so yes, they are idiots
14:16 < RangerZ1> but facebook easily can if I want to post there
14:16 < RangerZ1> lol
14:16 < aestetix> well
14:16 < aestetix> yeah pretty much
14:16 <@oddball> Hell, there have been cases of companies shutting crtics up simply because the critic can't afford the lawsuit.
14:17 < aestetix> although if you want into lowes and start stapling rambly LJ posts to the wall, they can rip it down
14:17 < aestetix> s/want/walk/
14:17 < RangerZ1> aestetix: just move from twitter to tumblr
14:17 <@oddball> I actually have a friend who did a negative product review and was threatened with a lawsuit.
14:19 <@oddball> The company shit up when my buddy found a good lawyer who looked at what he wrote, laughed, and saw the dollars that a counter-suit would bring... and told them to bring it.
14:19 <@oddball> s/shit/shut
14:19 < aestetix> btw
14:19 < aestetix> has anyone played the game Transistor?
14:19 <@oddball> no
14:19 < RangerZ1> no, but I 'own' it
14:19 < RangerZ1> sorta
14:20 < aestetix> is it any good?
14:20 < RangerZ1> got it from the playstation+ accout
14:20 < RangerZ1> looks interesting
14:20 < RangerZ1> http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/20/transistor-review
14:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Transistor Review - IGN (at www.ign.com)
14:20 < RangerZ1> got a 9/10
14:21 < RangerZ1> for what that is worth
14:30 < RangerZ1> i haven't played it myself yet
14:32 < SuMo_D_> my friend said they really liked Transistor
14:37 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv8rRZRKB-A hahaha
14:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Super Smash Bros 3DS | Unfortunate Glitch Banning People For 136 Years - Oops - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:37 < RangerZ1> LOL
14:39 < RangerZ1> ohh, this is the company who made Bastion, thats a great action rpg too
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14:57 <@wilpig> RangerZ2: that video is garbage
14:57 <@wilpig> it says there is a glitch, talks about a reddit thread, but shows neither the glitch nor the thread
14:57 <@wilpig> I could make a video like that shwoing game play of some other game than I am talkin gabout and then go on to talk about boobs being shown in it
14:58 <@wilpig> and a search in http://www.reddit.com/r/supersmashbros/ for ban comes up with nothing
14:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: all-things-smash + lan tournaments (at www.reddit.com)
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15:02 <@wilpig> http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/11/super_smash_bros_for_nintendo_3ds_online_brawlers_reporting_136_year_ban_glitch
15:04 < aestetix> ok stupid question
15:04 < aestetix> on a mac is there any way to tell why a program crashed?
15:05 < aestetix> ok it's in syslog nvm
15:06 <@wilpig> it has a crashlog as well.  iirc
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15:36 <@wilpig> NotLarry: https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10461619_10152584213214998_2858673769932768540_n.png?oh=ade890857eefc7c109ae7c367c3e7662&oe=54F03D0C&__gda__=1423525977_93e4a53b8951d96d1a00cd01139c63c9
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16:46 <@Shadow404> aestetix: we gonna do some moreporta;?
16:46 <@Shadow404> gah
16:46 <@Shadow404> more portal
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17:18 < aestetix> so
17:18 < aestetix> how did phreaknic go
17:24 <@wilpig> if you go by their schedule it's still going on
17:24 <@oddball> I'm guessing those that were there all weekend are either still tearing down, or asleep.
17:40 <@wilpig> I guess I should put some clothes on.  I just ordered food
17:41 <@oddball> Yeah... I don't think you're the type the delivery guy will apreciate acswering the door naked.
17:45 <@wilpig> not generally
17:46 < aestetix> unless he's gay and thinks you're cute
17:46 < aestetix> transginger
17:54 < RangerZ> this one pizza shop back home... had fucking amazingly cute delivery girls
17:54 < RangerZ> I knew the owner was a huge perv... and so did every person who worked there... but they were paid well and it was almost all females, lol
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> That's nice.  How about the important part?  How was the 'za? :)
18:10 < RangerZ> decent enough
18:10 < RangerZ> it was one of the few that would deliver til 1am
18:11 < RangerZ> so it got most of my business between 11pm and 1am
18:11 < RangerZ> lol
18:30 < aestetix> anarchival poops
18:31 < aestetix> enjoy the mental image
18:36 < aestetix> RangerZ1: http://front.dadaviz.com/media/viz_images/the-stock-of-outstanding-student-debt-in-the-us-ha-1414915471.15-3350204.png
18:37 < RangerZ> the 'average' student loan owed is ~31k or something
18:37 < RangerZ> now... I wanna know is that 'average' of "people who have student loans" or
18:37 < aestetix> which is fucking insane
18:37 < RangerZ> 'everyone'
18:38 < RangerZ> but with that guy with 1m$ loans
18:38 < RangerZ> i think it if you 'excluded' doctors/etc
18:38 < RangerZ> it would be closer to like 10k for people with loans
18:39 < RangerZ> or something.... b/c fucking doctors have to PAY to work at the hospital for years for training
18:47 <@Bahhumbug> 1 _million_ in loans?
18:48 <@Bahhumbug> How is that even possible unless it's a case of multiple PhDs?
18:48 < RangerZ> NYU dental school
18:48 < RangerZ> he got a orthodontist specialization or something
18:48 < RangerZ> so starting wage of 300$k
18:48 < RangerZ> but he's being stupid and only working for 100k$
18:49 < RangerZ> the other dentists on reddit said fucking move moron
18:49 < RangerZ> lol
18:49 < RangerZ> b/c he would literally never be able to pay it off, b/c he'd get 68k in interest a year... and only be able to pay 48k
18:49 < RangerZ> 168$ of interest a day...
18:49 < RangerZ> FML territory
18:52 <@Bahhumbug> I cry absolute bullshit on the 1M price tag.
18:59 < RangerZ> yeah, I dunno, I can see it if they paid for loans for cost of living at the same time
18:59 < RangerZ> which is where most of my loans actually came from
18:59 < RangerZ> books/supplies/keeping the electricity on while I didn't work full time
18:59 < RangerZ> etc
18:59 < RangerZ> Shadow404:  https://www.joinatlantapd.org/
18:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: Careers with APD (at www.joinatlantapd.org)
18:59 < RangerZ> there you go
18:59 < RangerZ> ;)
19:00 < RangerZ> (keep hearing the ad on the radio, lol)
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19:34 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: heh
19:34 <@Shadow404> all of the no
19:37 <@Bahhumbug> Why not?  It's a constant supply of free 'cuffs.
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20:56 < RangerZ> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/11/03/0043237/ferguson-no-fly-zone-revealed-as-anti-media-tactic fucking award winner for "well duh"
20:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ferguson No-Fly Zone Revealed As Anti-Media Tactic - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
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21:25 < RangerZ> if anything, this might give cause for AP or other media to sue when this happens next (and it will)
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21:42 <@CRasH180> What a weekend!
21:44 <@wilpig> caught a case of the herp?
21:44 <@CRasH180> lol, ummm, no
21:44 <@wilpig> in that case, i'll put my weekend up against yours
21:44 <@wilpig> you've already lost...
21:44 <@CRasH180> Roller Derby all weekend long
21:44 <@CRasH180> I would say so
21:45 <@wilpig> Tumblr Halloween Party, Suicide Girls, Primus.
21:45 <@wilpig> in that order
21:50 < RangerZ> the middle is where he got his crabs
21:51 <@CRasH180> Well, the name should have said a lot about what you were to expect
21:51 < RangerZ> also Dagmar, you'd like my new neighbor, first time I saw her she looked like she just walked off a S.G. photoshoot
22:01  * RangerZ thinks about gifting either Dagmar or oddball a copy of AC Unity, just so they have to install Uplay...
22:01 < RangerZ> lol
22:02 <@wilpig> HAHAHAH http://i.4cdn.org/b/1414983628985.jpg
22:03 <@wilpig> that would be so much fun to do to Mirage 
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22:15 < RangerZ> thats great
22:36 <@Mirage> wilpig: lol
22:36 <@Mirage> wilpig: Sarah's practicing now.
22:37 <@wilpig> lol
22:39 <@Dagmar> I had uPlay installed because of Watchdogs
22:39 <@Dagmar> Emphasis on past tense
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22:41 <@wilpig> working my way through smash run having to get first with every character to unlock something
22:43 <@oddball> Just played the Duck Hunt dog for the first time... not sure I'm a fan.
22:43 <@oddball> Although, it might be like Nes, where he's powerful once you figure out how to play him.
22:43 <@wilpig> hate that stupid dog
22:44 <@wilpig> it's weird feeling
22:44 <@wilpig> he's fast as shit
23:08 <@wilpig> i'm nearly through the first two rows of fighters on clearing smash run with every character
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23:10 <@oddball> cool
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