--- Log opened Tue Oct 28 00:00:15 2014
00:48 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: I have before, but it was ...years... ago
00:53 < RangerZ> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/10/28/0026200/debate-over-systemd-exposes-the-two-factions-tugging-at-modern-day-linux "2" factions
00:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Debate Over Systemd Exposes the Two Factions Tugging At Modern-day Linux - Slashdot (at linux.slashdot.org)
00:54 < RangerZ> umm... I'd think at least 5 main factions  , 1: desktop 2: laptop 3: embedded 4: server 5: mobile devices
00:57 < aestetix> and watch
00:58 < RangerZ> thats embedded
00:58 <@Dagmar> OKay.
00:58 <@Dagmar> It's official.
00:58 < aestetix> Dagmar: you're pregnant?
00:58 <@Dagmar> The WoW group finder needs a button for "I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING"
00:59 < RangerZ> so they can group them with you ?
00:59 < RangerZ> awww... you're so nice
00:59 < RangerZ> volunteering to teach them
00:59 < RangerZ> lol
00:59 <@Dagmar> So that maybe I get put into groups with other people who can explain things, or perhaps move a little slower
00:59 <@Dagmar> There was some sea piracy mission thing, and it had us collect explosives
00:59 <@Dagmar> I knew exactly how that was going to pan out
01:00 <@Dagmar> Plant the explosives in the bottom of the boat, then race to the top and run around in circles looking for the rope to grab instead of going down with the boar
01:00 <@Dagmar> er boata
01:00 <@Dagmar> All three of us hasn't done that one before.
01:00 <@Dagmar> lol
01:01 <@Dagmar> Dude was asking me for a res.
01:01 <@Dagmar> I'm on a hunter.  The large gorilla in tow is generally a clue.
01:03 < RangerZ> so... I'm lost... what the fuck does systemd do? why the fuck is my startup system have its fingers in everything?
01:07 <@Dagmar> systemd: upstart with cancer, that's spreading.
01:09 <@Dagmar> You take a somewhat reasonable sysv init and add some dependency-based functionality.
01:10 <@Dagmar> ...and then, you build in syslog and disk management and make everything use a proprietary binary format and spin the featureset to stop just short of replacing Chrome.
01:10 <@Dagmar> It is _wildly_ out of control.
01:11 <@Dagmar> ...and they wonder why we look at them like they just started barking and drooling when they want to talk about it's helpful features.
01:12 < RangerZ> i'm ALL for OS-level virtualization
01:12 < RangerZ> but docker/lxc has that
01:12 <@Dagmar> Personally, I think they should have fucking stopped when they got to the point that services are considered in a state of up or down that must be _enforced_ by init.
01:12 <@Dagmar> They should have added a config toggle that made that and everything that came after something you could turn off.
01:13 <@Dagmar> If I kill -9 apache, it should fucking _stay down_ IMHO
01:13 <@Dagmar> ...but, if I'm aware that init is going to start it right back up, then I can deal
01:13 < RangerZ> [ “Honey Boo Boo” Mom Dating Sex Offender; Show Cancelled.] HAHAHA
01:14 <@Dagmar> Yep.
01:14 <@Dagmar> You know they were staring at a wave of people coming out in favor of violent child molestation
01:14 <@Dagmar> _Anything_ to make the show stop.
01:15 <@Dagmar> It was _grotesque_.
01:16 < RangerZ> 'units' wait wtf
01:16 < RangerZ> these talks about systemd are making me be like... "Wtf"
01:17 < RangerZ> They are just using words that don't have meaning... \
01:25 <@Dagmar> lol
01:25 <@Dagmar> These new scenarios Blizzard added are hectic
01:25 <@Dagmar> BUt!  at least I'm geared for them!
01:25 <@Dagmar> I nearly doubled the #2 person's DPS in that last one because I got freaked out
01:25 <@Dagmar> heheheh
01:26 <@Dagmar> The last boss was going to do _something_ and I knew I would have no clue what I was supposed to click on or aim to counter it
01:26 < RangerZ> lol
01:26 <@Dagmar> Only remaining option: SHOOT LIKE MAD
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07:06 < aestetix> ugh
07:06 < aestetix> I am addicted to red bull
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07:41 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:44 < k3ymkr> Washington post is running a story about a new "Most sophisticated" hacking group.  Codename: Axiom.  I know if I was in a chinese group I'd just be called: Unit 63198 or something.
07:45 < k3ymkr> Sorry.  That's most sophisticated chinese hacking group.
07:45 <@wilpig> if it was from china wouldn't it be more like "no girls allowed" ?
07:45 <@Dolemite> The counter-hacking group is named "Theorem," right?
07:45 < k3ymkr> I'm sure that's taken.  Isn't that more of a motto anyways?
07:46 < k3ymkr> The article makes it sound more like the NSA than corporate espionage though.
07:47 < k3ymkr> So...breaking news.  China is spying on other countries and it's OWN CITIZENS!
07:47 < k3ymkr> s/its/it's/
07:47 < k3ymkr> Damn it.  Other way :)
07:47 < k3ymkr> s/it's/its/
07:53 <@wilpig> looks like the wii is being nice and moving all the games off the failing drive to the replacement
07:54 < aestetix> penis
07:54 <@Dolemite> Someone please give aestetix some penis so he will stop asking for it
07:57 < aestetix> Actually we ususually denote a request by putting a question mark at the end.
07:57 < aestetix> In which case, "penis" would become "penis?"
07:57 < aestetix> Although without additional context, it could easily be seen as verifying that something is or contains penis, rather than simply requesting penis.
07:59 <@wilpig> an implied facial gesture or vocal tone was taken with your statement making it a request
07:59 <@wilpig> the internet is funny like that with text and intent
08:03 < aestetix> That's a dangerous assumption to make. You could extend that logic to say that RangerZ1 is racist because he only likes white chocolate.
08:03 <@wilpig> but rangerz has stated that he likes dark chocolate
08:03 < k3ymkr> Also the implied burning of crosses that happens everytime he writes something.
08:03 <@wilpig> that part is true
08:04 <@Dolemite> wilpig: Jungle RangerZ?
08:04 <@wilpig> JungleZ ?
08:04 <@wilpig> he's gonna be so confused when he wakes up and has to go put that cross out
08:05 < aestetix> I'm really glad that #se2600 is tolerant enough to let someone as racist as RangerZ1 stay in here.
08:06 <@wilpig> we like our own
08:06  * wilpig hugs aestetix 
08:06  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
08:07 < aestetix> wilpig: of course, I have heard that once you go black, you never go back.
08:08 <@wilpig> I'm gonna need to see a research study to back those claims
08:08 < aestetix> I think one of the speakers at PhreakNIC will be covering that.
08:10 < aestetix> Now when you combine that with "bigger is better" logic...
08:10 <@wilpig> aestetix: what are you doing up so early?
08:10 < aestetix> wilpig: I passed out early.
08:10 <@wilpig> heavy drinking can do that
08:11 <@wilpig> i'm hurt you didn't invite us to partake as well
08:11 <@wilpig> I need a faster sata controller in my file server
08:12 <@wilpig> this 30MB/s read shit is starting to annoy me
08:14 < aestetix> actually I think I have a headache becuse of red bull withdrawal
08:15 < k3ymkr> So red bull gives you pain.
08:15 <@Dagmar> Penis probably won't help you with that
08:15 < aestetix> lack of red bull gives me pain
08:15 < k3ymkr> Therefore pain = wings.
08:18 < aestetix> On that note, I'm glad the IRC troll was banned.
08:18 < k3ymkr> Was she giving out too many wings?
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08:20 <@wilpig> ouch.  https://www.eff.org/pages/who-has-your-back-copyright-trademark-2014
08:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Who Has Your Back? When Copyright and Trademark Bullies Threaten Free Speech 2014 | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org)
08:20 <@Dolemite> http://boingboing.net/2014/10/27/suitsy-the-business-suit-ones.html
08:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Suitsy: The business suit onesie - Boing Boing (at boingboing.net)
08:20 <@Dolemite> ROFL
08:20 <@wilpig> reading their criteria for the stars they didn't try to find the info on tumblr.  :-/
08:21 <@wilpig> https://secure.static.tumblr.com/ahtwo23/M0sn94n3q/transparencyreport2014jj_letter__5.pdf
08:22 < aestetix> wilpig: on the plus side, tumblr gets five stars for the EFF porn audit
08:23 <@wilpig> just from your tumblr alone?
08:23 < aestetix> yes
08:23 < aestetix> my tumblr is awesome
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08:55 < aestetix> so honest question
08:55 < aestetix> how do people who live in suburbs not kill themselves
08:56 < k3ymkr> I live in the suburbs.  I'd like to.
08:56 <@wilpig> different pace to life
08:56 <@opticron> the average suburbanite? I think watching sports on TV must be part of it because it seems to be a popular thing for that crowd
08:56 <@Dolemite> How do people who live in the inner city not kill themselves?
08:56 < k3ymkr> Just moved out about 6 months ago though
08:57 <@Dolemite> I have plenty of yard to tell neighborhood whippersnappers to stay off of
08:57 <@Bahhumbug> *burp*
08:57 < k3ymkr> Dolemite: Fair point.
08:57 <@Dolemite> I don't have to deal with traffic on a regular basis
08:57 < k3ymkr> Personally as long as I have the internet, am not too hot or cold and don't get wet when it rains, I'm good.
08:57 <@Dolemite> I have underground utilities and fiber to the home
08:57 < k3ymkr> I like the scenary of the inner city better.
08:58 < k3ymkr> Here it's just trees and strip malls.
08:58 <@Dolemite> I live next to a golf course
08:58 <@Dolemite> Which is across the street from another golf course
08:58 < k3ymkr> So just grass forever?
08:59 < k3ymkr> and men in funny clothes?  (not that you don't get that in the city)
08:59 <@Dolemite> Somewhat
08:59 < aestetix> I'm staying with a friend in the suburbs ... well did last night
08:59 < aestetix> It's so bland and boring.
08:59 <@Dolemite> But I work outside of the city, so that's why I get to avoid traffic
09:00 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Did you ask him for some penis?
09:00 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Or if not that, did you ask him for some butt play?
09:00 <@wilpig> ^
09:00 < aestetix> The whole inoffensive beige bland Ikea look
09:01 < aestetix> It feels totally artificial.
09:01 <@wilpig> I'm in the burbs where I'm at.  When I come home it's quiet and it stays that way.  No blaring horns, sirens, etc
09:02 <@Dolemite> Why do people feel the need to bring their bicycle into their office when there are numerous bike racks right by the doors to the building?
09:02 <@Bahhumbug> I have you all beat.  I'm on a farm in the middle of nowhere.
09:02 <@wilpig> cause someone will steal them
09:02 < aestetix> Then again where this place is... the neighbors are guaranteed to be 20something startup employees who have no life outside of work
09:02 <@Dolemite> Bahhumbug: Ah, but Wilpig and I are both close enough in to have fiber to the home
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09:03 < aestetix> I'm also partial to old Victorian townhouses, which are quite offended by modern suburbia
09:04 <@wilpig> is it offence or a cost issue on investment
09:04 < aestetix> Dolemite: no I save those requests for special people
09:04 < aestetix> a cost issue?
09:05 <@wilpig> that's a specific design and if you do it right you want it all to be era specific, correct?  that drives the cost up
09:05 <@wilpig> so if you're building something new you want as cheap as possible to fit the needs of the most that will sell without a long wait to find the exact right buyer
09:05 <@Bahhumbug> I have 60m service here so I'm fine :)
09:05 <@wilpig> the bulk of what you call modern suburbia is tract housing
09:05 < aestetix> I prefer to live in buildings that are actually old
09:06 < aestetix> I think my plae in Oakland is 110 years old
09:06 <@Bahhumbug> Sad part is... I also have unlit fiber on the easement, part of the state's push a few years ago to make sure all schools had decent service.
09:06 < aestetix> or something like that
09:06 <@Bahhumbug> Damn thing was never lit.
09:06 <@Dolemite> OH
09:06 <@Dolemite> MAH
09:06 <@Dolemite> GAWD
09:06 <@Dolemite> http://www.knoxnews.com/knoxville/pop-culture/furries-to-convene-in-west-knoxville-for-fangcon-2014
09:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Furries to convene in West Knoxville for FangCon 2014 - Knoxville.com Story (at www.knoxnews.com)
09:06 < aestetix> no
09:06 <@wilpig> huzzah!
09:06 < aestetix> god no
09:06 <@wilpig> time to get you a fur suit, Dolemite 
09:07 <@Dolemite> Yiffing!
09:07 < aestetix> But the atmosphere these tract houses create... I can see why there's so much idiocy and conflict avoidance
09:07 < aestetix> It feels like it's designed for short term existence.
09:07 <@wilpig> they don't make the atmosphere directly.  who you have living there really makes the neighborhood
09:08 <@wilpig> people like me don't generally associate with their neighbors.  people like Dolemite do
09:08 < aestetix> wilpig: so a bunch of 20 something google employees
09:08 <@wilpig> that's the area you're in.  not typical of everywhere
09:08 < aestetix> Given that google is like 2 miles from here, yeah
09:09 <@Bahhumbug> I have no idea of my neighbor's names.  My wife does, but I have no interest in finding out.  On the other hand, this being the rural south, if I ever needed assistance with something I know for a fact they would help me.
09:09 <@wilpig> so your area is a product of the companies in the area that are employing people
09:09 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: thus the southern charm
09:09 < aestetix> i actually really like the south because of that
09:09 <@wilpig> my neighbor has told me his name a few times but I can't remember it.  I remember him as apt c
09:10 < aestetix> wilpig: have you talked with him about butt play?
09:10 <@wilpig> nope
09:10 <@Dolemite> California suburbs are vastly different from those in other areas
09:10 <@Bahhumbug> So is California itself as a whole.
09:10 < aestetix> Dolemite: they are ugly. And boring. It feels like a scene out of American Beauty minus the cool people.
09:10 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: agreed.
09:12 < aestetix> Actually I heard a really apt analogy comparing what hacker around here meant 20 years ago to now
09:12 < aestetix> Mondo2000 to modern day Wired
09:13 <@Dolemite> There's a reason that Neal Stephenson modeled the 'burbs of Snow Crash after Southern California
09:13 <@Dolemite> er, burbclaves
09:13 < aestetix> I should reread that book.
09:13 < aestetix> I haven't read it in over 10 years
09:13 <@Dolemite> I'm planning on re-reading System of the World and Cryptonomicon during the cruise next month
09:14 < aestetix> you mean the baroque cycle?
09:14 < aestetix> or just system of the world
09:14 <@Dolemite> Yeah, the whole Baroque Cycle
09:14 < aestetix> have fun
09:14 < aestetix> it took me ages, but was well worth it
09:14 <@Dolemite> I've read it before
09:14 <@Dolemite> Had a few false starts, but once I got into the style it went quickly
09:14 < aestetix> How long is the cruise?
09:14 <@Dolemite> 7 days
09:14 < aestetix> You're going to read the baroque cycle and cryptonomicon in 7 days?
09:15 <@Dolemite> Depends on just how well Disney's kids clubs keeps the kids occupied
09:16 <@NotLarry> Amber alerts are for kids
09:16 <@Dolemite> Actually, I may re-read some Harry Potter instead
09:16 <@Dolemite> Haven't fully decided on my reading selection
09:16 <@Dolemite> Will likely take some e-comics as well
09:16 <@Dolemite> It's been a while since I read Hellblazer, and with Constantine now on TV, it's a good time to refresh
09:17 < k3ymkr> I've never finished the first book.  I should put it on my tablet though.
09:17 <@Dolemite> k3ymkr: first book of which series?
09:17 < k3ymkr> Baroque cycle.
09:17 < k3ymkr> I've read like 1/2 of Quicksilver
09:18 <@Dolemite> Yeah, it took several tries to get far enough into it to get hooked
09:18 <@Dolemite> But by the time you hit the second book you're speed reading
09:18 < k3ymkr> I'll put it on my tablet.  I'm reading ready player one right now.
09:18 <@Dolemite> You read Cryptonomicon?
09:19 < k3ymkr> Years ago, yes
09:19 <@Dolemite> Snow Crash + Cryptonomicon makes for a great back to back read
09:19 < k3ymkr> I believe that's how I did it.
09:19 < k3ymkr> Diamond age is fun too.
09:19 <@Dolemite> Oh, I forgot, I picked up Anathema and haven't read it, yet.  I may do that one, though it's in dead tree form.
09:19 < k3ymkr> I have it on my bookshelf.
09:19 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Diamond Age was my first Neal Stephenson read
09:20 < k3ymkr> But never read it.
09:20 < k3ymkr> The wife did.
09:21 <@Dolemite> Damn it's going to be cold camping this weekend.  Saturday shows high of 49 and low of 32, and our campsite is right next to the lake.
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09:29 < aestetix> k3ymkr: quicksilver took me three attempts to get through
09:29 <@ShadowHntr> I really liked Snow Crash
09:29 <@ShadowHntr> What I had trouble finishing is Neuromancer
09:30 <@ShadowHntr> but Ready Player One was *damn* good reading :)
09:30 < aestetix> heh
09:30 < aestetix> I can't read e-books
09:30 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Gibson.  He's got some good books, and some not so good books.
09:30 < aestetix> I find them incredibly annoying
09:30 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Get old and then you'll appreciate the ability to zoom the letters to a size you can read without your glasses
09:30 < aestetix> heh
09:31 < aestetix> I already need glasses to read
09:31 <@Dolemite> I was a dead tree zealot until the need for glasses
09:31 < aestetix> well maybe not need
09:31 < aestetix> but I get headaches now otherwise
09:32 < aestetix> The other thing about suburbs
09:32 < aestetix> you have to get in a car to go to a corner store
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09:34 <@Dolemite> Not necessarily
09:35 < aestetix> I think maybe just California suburbs fucking suck
09:35 <@ShadowHntr> anyone here read Ready Player One?
09:35 <@Dolemite> It's just that most people don't ever want to walk more than 100 feet
09:35 <@ShadowHntr> by Ernest Cline
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09:39 < aestetix> Here's a way I can describe the feeling
09:39 < aestetix> People keep calling the under 25s the lost generation... the millennials, etc.
09:39 < aestetix> I'm in a social filled with them. No wonder it's devoid of meaning and feels like it's just bumbling along.
09:39 <@wilpig> what do y'all make out of this?  http://hastebin.com/iqacepegot.xml
09:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: hastebin (at hastebin.com)
09:40 <@brimstone> wilpig: looks like another machine that needs to have debian installed
09:40 <@wilpig> this is the dumpfrom my external drive that I was using on the wiiu
09:40 <@wilpig> nintendo says my save data is just fucked, I say that's dumb
09:41 <@wilpig> if the wii can tell the difference between the save data and game data then there is a way for me to extract it
09:41 <@wilpig> just a matter of identifying their fs type
09:43 <@Dagmar> Oh shit
09:43 <@Dagmar> AutoAwesome is doing Halloween shit
09:43 <@Dagmar> lol
09:44 <@Dagmar> g.co/halloweenify
09:47 <@Bahhumbug> Silly pastebin that's require active content to view == ENOWAY
09:47 <@wilpig> hrmm. so the third partition might be a software raid volume that my mac doesn't understand
09:48 <@CRasH180> Mac no speak RAID?
09:49 <@wilpig> apparently not
09:49 <@wilpig> booting a vm I have and gonna try to pass the usb device to it and then see what I see
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10:11 <@wilpig> hrmm.  wonder about this.  9e ForthOS partition
10:12 < Synx|hm> hey pig, do you use channels in plex?
10:13 < Synx|hm> im curious if channels work from WAN side, because i can get my channel to work fine on my LAN but never loads the video when im on the WAN side of the network
10:16 <@wilpig> notreally
10:16 <@wilpig> i've looked at them but never really saw any that jumped up and said "INSTALL ME!"
10:17 < Synx|hm> ya
10:17 < aestetix> It strikes me that the bland color of apple hardware looks a lot like the bland white color of the walls in a suburban house
10:17 < Synx|hm> ive got an NHL subscription that only allows 1 IP connected
10:17 < Synx|hm> so i was hoping i could share out the plex channel to family and still stay at 1 IP
10:17 < Synx|hm> oh well
10:33 < aestetix> Shadow404: have you ever tried to poop a butt plug out?
10:34 <@ShadowHntr> aestetix: have you ever tried NOT to insert thoughts like that into a civilized conversation?
10:35 <@Dagmar> Did I miss something?
10:35 <@Dagmar> He's actually not saying 'penis' and you're complaining?
10:35 <@ShadowHntr> *rolls eyes*
10:36 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, I *did* miss something
10:36 <@Dagmar> lol
10:38 < aestetix> ShadowHntr: where's the fun in that?
10:38 <@Dolemite> Man, we keep finding some crazy shit with hardware that nobody else seems to run into.
10:38 <@Dolemite> 300 node cluster, all nodes PXEboot
10:39 <@Dolemite> if you reboot 160+ at a time, a random member of the switch stack will reboot
10:39 <@Dagmar> hehe
10:40 <@Dolemite> If you actually power down the boxes and then bring them back up, it's ok
10:40 <@Dagmar> It's equally likely everyone else just lives with their heads up their asses and doesn't notice
10:40 < aestetix> Dolemite: is that the equivalent of flushing all the toilets at stadium to test the plumbing?
10:41 <@Dolemite> Not quite, more like flushing all the urinals at once
10:42 < Synx|hm> i cant stand Avaya gear
10:45 < Synx|hm> seriously, take a fucking standard and totally fuck with it and make it your own
10:45 < Synx|hm> that is NOT cool
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10:55 <@ShadowHntr> Synx|hm: didn't Nortel do that first? ;)
10:58 < Synx|hm> oh god, Avaya Blue FML
11:02 < Synx|hm> i have a customer on a Nortel CS1K that is 10 years old
11:02 < Synx|hm> i FUCKING HATE UNIStim
11:09 < Synx|hm> holy shit i called it
11:10 < Synx|hm> FooFighters at Ryman on friday
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11:52 <@the_hugme> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/10/28/is-google-maps-accurate-ask-the-giant-cat/
11:52 <@the_hugme> bwahahaha
12:06 <@oddball> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR3ChDXCv0I
12:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Whites Only Laundry - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:07 <@oddball> It just gets worse as things go on...
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12:21 <@Dolemite> oddball: Hahahahaha, wow, that's epic
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12:34 < cyberanger> Is there a keysigning party planned?
12:36 <@brimstone> probably at the cryptoparty cyberanger
12:36 <@Dolemite> If you are asking about logistics for PhreakNIC, you are asking in the wrong place, as the IRC channel has been shunned by the organizers.
12:37 <@brimstone> "allegedly"
12:37 <@Dolemite> There's no allegedly about it
12:38 < cyberanger> brimstone: thanks, I don't see the cryptoparty on the schedule (I've seen the emails about it)
12:38 < cyberanger> Dolemite: I am asking more in general, if nobody was I was going to ask about intrest in one, offically or not
12:39 <@Dolemite> fair enough
12:39 < RangerZ1> cyberanger: the NSA agent(s) would love to talk with you
12:39 < cyberanger> I know people in se2600 would be going, figured might as well ask
12:39 <@Dolemite> but if you were looking for official info, just letting you know that you're in the wrong place for that
12:39 < RangerZ1> cyberanger: actually, most of us aren't going this year
12:40 < RangerZ1> either children (halloween +treats+tricking), or not wanting to deal with the children at the con itself
12:40 < cyberanger> RangerZ1: really? wow, schedule conflicts or.....right, that is going to make this a weird year
12:41 < RangerZ1> both
12:41 < cyberanger> Overlooked the halloween mess
12:41 < RangerZ1> halloween was great when the only people going were 19
12:41 < RangerZ1> now that they are 47
12:41 <@benthemeek> cyberanger: I believe so
12:42 <@Dolemite> Aha, benthemeek is here!  An official official!
12:42 <@benthemeek> yeah I logged in last night after work and left it up
12:42 < RangerZ1> wtf ben, who said you were allowed in here ?
12:42 < RangerZ1> ssh*:* rm -rf /
12:42 < RangerZ1> go delete your work servers again
12:42 < RangerZ1> lol
12:42 <@benthemeek> *shudders*
12:43 <@benthemeek> it was more like "cd /; find nonexistanct-file-name | xargs rm -rf
12:43 <@benthemeek> If memory serves
12:43 < RangerZ1> best git repo commit ever rm -rf / tmp/install.tmp.swap -> rm -rf /tmp/install.tmp.swap (or some file name like that)
12:44 < RangerZ1> or dir* name to be more accurate
12:44 <@benthemeek> Tom is running a 102 fever. I hope he can still make it :(
12:44 < RangerZ1> but still...
12:44 < RangerZ1> who is tom?
12:45 <@benthemeek> Decius
12:45 < RangerZ1> and was in he/she in west africa?
12:45 < RangerZ1> or Dallas
12:45 <@benthemeek> bringing ebola to phreaknic! w00t
12:45 < RangerZ1> (both have about the same level of 'me wanting to live there')
12:46 < RangerZ1> if you purposely brought ebola to a con, you'd be charged with mass murder
12:46 < RangerZ1> bio weapon
12:46 < cyberanger> I'd die to see that
12:46 <@benthemeek> ebola scare = media FUD
12:46 < RangerZ1> just like feeding notlarry pork and beans and then cabbage
12:48 < RangerZ1> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/10/28/1513242/xyzprinting-releases-all-in-one-3d-printer-with-internal-laser-scanner I've wondered how long it would take for someone to do this
12:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: XYZPrinting Releases All-In-One 3D Printer With Internal Laser Scanner - Slashdot (at hardware.slashdot.org)
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12:55 <@benthemeek> cyberanger: https://phreaknic.info/content/cryptoparty
12:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: CryptoParty | PhreakNIC (at phreaknic.info)
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12:56  * cyberanger facepalms
12:56 < cyberanger> thanks benthemeek
12:56 < RangerZ> don't let him trick you
12:56 <@benthemeek> I actually ordered a Pi yesterday to make the OnionPi. Should get here wedensday
12:56 < RangerZ> he just put that up there
12:57 <@benthemeek> lol
12:57 < RangerZ> vandy is having a mathworks rep come and show us how to run matlab and simulink simulations on the rapi
12:57 < RangerZ> which.....
12:57 < RangerZ> is kinda wrong
12:57 <@Dolemite> We have a cluster built out of Raspis called Tiny Titan
12:58 <@Dolemite> Does a great job of teaching the power of parallel computing
12:58 < RangerZ> b/c simulink simulations are among the most CPU intensive programs in existence
12:58 < RangerZ> Dolemite: thats cool
12:58 <@benthemeek> I really wanted to buy Intels answer actually. I think I could get that running UT and stop lugging around all these old PC's to cons for the lan party
12:59 <@benthemeek> I think it was 60 or something
12:59 < RangerZ> well its noon, I should probably look into going into work
12:59 < RangerZ> *yawns*
12:59 <@shapr> yay
12:59 <@shapr> work
13:01 < RangerZ> i could just as easily do it here
13:02 < RangerZ> but i'd probably get distracted and start cleaning or something
13:08 < k3ymkr> PN has an android app?
13:09 < k3ymkr> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sophrinix.phreaknic
13:10 <@brimstone> that's what they say
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13:27 <@wilpig> looks like i'm giving the tour
13:27 <@wilpig> damnit
13:28 <@Bahhumbug> Why the fuck do they need an android app?
13:28 <@Bahhumbug> They can't figure out a simple website.
13:28 <@Bahhumbug> What's this app do?  Eat your phone?
13:30 <@wilpig> they have and android one?  I thought htye just had the ios which was silly enough 
13:33 <@Dolemite> Displays ads of the sponsors
13:35 <@wilpig> sponsor
13:36 <@Dolemite> There are 2 shown
13:36 <@oddball> NLUG counts?
13:36 <@Dolemite> Codex Labs and Avatar Staffing
13:36 <@wilpig> neither nlug or the radio station count
13:36 <@wilpig> avatar is new
13:36 <@oddball> ah... didn't know about Avatar Staffing.
13:42 <@Bahhumbug> Fucking Conflict of Fucking Interest
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13:44 <@wilpig> i don't see avatar on the site either
13:44 <@wilpig> you sure they're a sponsor?  if so he's met the last skydick criteria.  having a sponsor that you don't get on the site 
13:45 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously... is there some point to this app other than spamming his company's name?
13:46 <@Bahhumbug> Does it do... anything?
13:49 <@Dolemite> I think it is supposed to give you the conference schedule and details about the talks
13:50 <@Dolemite> If it fits in with most conference apps, it will also have a rating mechanism
13:58 <@CRasH180> Yeah, the BMC Engage app did not have a rating mechanism
13:58 <@CRasH180> Would have been nice
14:02 <@CRasH180> https://phreaknic.info/
14:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: PhreakNIC 18 | PhreakNIC (at phreaknic.info)
14:08 < k3ymkr> I just got around to watching the DefCon 20 video full of our sky friend.
14:18 <@CRasH180> bbl
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14:34 <@ShadowHntr> *yawn*
14:34 <@ShadowHntr> afternoon everyone
14:34 <@ShadowHntr> why the hell did i just find a bb gun in one of the cushions in our living room? :/
14:35 <@wilpig> better than under your pillow
14:38 <@ShadowHntr> lol
14:39 <@ShadowHntr> we don't keep any weapons in the house
14:39 <@ShadowHntr> and we don't have anything worth stealing :P
14:45 <@opticron> ShadowHntr, inside one of the cushions or beside/under?
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15:00 <@benthemeek> O.o they announced the app
15:01 <@benthemeek> I guess ?
15:01 <@benthemeek> How did you find out out about it
15:02 <@benthemeek> *sigh* I see the tweet
15:02 <@benthemeek> yeah so the app IMO still needs a little work
15:02 <@benthemeek> but the point of it was to have a mobile schedule people could check for changes and auch
15:02 <@benthemeek> such*
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15:12 <@wilpig> something a pdf or a website on $15 a day internet wouldn't do
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15:14 <@benthemeek> I think the app is a nice touch if we get all the bugs ironed out
15:14 <@benthemeek> Shoot I go to the YMCA for my girls swim meets and they have an app that gives us schedules and results etc
15:14 <@benthemeek> Kind of handy
15:15 < k3ymkr> Or could just have a web page that supports mobile.
15:15 < k3ymkr> that's the easy win I think.
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15:21 <@Bahhumbug> Hahaha.  Someone asked "Is the nlug app open source?"
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15:21 <@Bahhumbug> k3ymkr: +1
15:24 <@benthemeek> Why not both?
15:24 <@benthemeek> Google calendars supports mobile. More options is good right?
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15:28 <@wilpig> more options = more potential problems
15:29 <@wilpig> a chick I grew up with posted some thing on facebook about coke shouldn't have wasted all this money making some custom art bottles for diet coke and they should concentrate on making it have less bad stuff in it.  something abou it having poison in it
15:29 <@wilpig> I responded to her in the only way fitting.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9uod7fjmkb66zk/Photo%20on%2010-28-14%20at%203.16%20PM%20%232.jpg?dl=0
15:30 < k3ymkr> I personally think "Apps" are just a filler until we can make the web look good on phones.
15:30 < k3ymkr> We're getting better at it.
15:31 <@oddball> See... people already do that.
15:31 < k3ymkr> The app is professional sounding though.  So +1 there.
15:31 <@wilpig> apps fill the gap where you don't have service
15:34 < k3ymkr> Depends on the app.
15:35 < k3ymkr> Sure, we all like applications.   For some services local apps are required.  Many IMDB for example are just silly to have as apps
15:35 < k3ymkr> Why do I need an app to read an online forum...or to rephrase, don't I already have an app for that called chrome?
15:36 <@wilpig> lighter weight interface?
15:36 < k3ymkr> More storage space?
15:37 < k3ymkr> :)  I think moore's law will make both concerns moot eventually
15:37 <@wilpig> I thought moores law was defunkt now?
15:39 < k3ymkr> I hadn't heard that.  Had to go read wikipedia which seems to suggest...maybe?
15:39 < k3ymkr> :)
15:40 <@wilpig> NotLarry just sent me this and i'm gonna say it's NSFW  http://i34.tinypic.com/2rnadnc.png
15:40 <@wilpig> but i'm here so it's SafeForWilpig
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15:44 <@opticron> nsfw-ish
15:44 <@opticron> sprinklebutt
15:45 <@oddball> candy ass
15:45 <@opticron> I was thinking it
16:01 <@NotLarry> Holy fuck, We have training next week and if I work my shifts (which I have to) and attend all the training (which I have to) I will have put in 86.5 hours
16:08 <@ShadowHntr> that's a hell of a  lot of OT
16:08 <@ShadowHntr> :)
16:23 <@wilpig> you go FTC.  http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/10/28/1759235/ftc-sues-att-for-throttling-unlimited-data-plan-customers-up-to-90
16:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: FTC Sues ATT For Throttling 'Unlimited' Data Plan Customers Up To 90% - Slashdot (at yro.slashdot.org)
16:23 <@oddball> sweet
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16:24 <@oddball> (I'm one of those affected)
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16:25 <@wilpig> it's about time that shit was cracked down on
18:08 < aestetix> ok this is fun
18:08 < aestetix> someone from the government is attempting to be a troll
18:08 < aestetix> it's kind of cute, really
18:52 < aestetix> seriously
18:52 < aestetix> do not make nazi jokes with me
18:52 < aestetix> I will troll you back so hard you don't know what to do
19:00 <@opticron> who are you talking to?
19:00 <@Bahhumbug> http://gizmodo.com/how-far-companies-will-go-to-protect-you-from-copyright-1651670175/+whitsongordon
19:00 <@Bahhumbug> tumblr... boo
19:02 <@wilpig> that thing is wrong
19:02 <@wilpig> I said it this morning too
19:03 <@wilpig> I even posted a link to the transparency report it said we didn't have
19:04 <@wilpig> https://www.tumblr.com/transparency
19:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Transparency Report | Tumblr (at www.tumblr.com)
19:06 <@Bahhumbug> I posted it just to give you grief :)
19:08 <@wilpig> it sucks it's getting picked up other places and our folks haven't gotten the eff to correct it yet
19:09 <@Bahhumbug> Hopefully the do as it makes tumblr look... not good.
19:15 < aestetix> wilpig: did you contact them?
19:15 < aestetix> oh
19:15 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: get this shit...  https://www.eff.org/files/2014/05/15/who-has-your-back-2014-govt-data-requests.pdf
19:15 <@wilpig> page 18
19:15 <@wilpig> aestetix: yeah it's in the works
19:16 <@wilpig> the pr folks, the legal folks, and the support folks all have it on their radar and are working to get it corrected
19:16 < aestetix> wilpig: tumblr got 5 stars
19:16 <@wilpig> but the damage is done already
19:16 < aestetix> only missed 1
19:17 < aestetix> wilpig: I'd suggest contacting Gizmodo and asking for a correction
19:17 <@wilpig> it just shows that the eff screwed up.  there is no way tumblr would be taking data issues that seriously and NOT have the transparency around the dmca shit
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19:27 < aestetix> oh god
19:27 < aestetix> http://robrhinehart.com/?p=1152
19:29 < aestetix> ... wow
19:29 < aestetix> "In lieu of showering I sprayed myself with AOBiome’s custom skin bacteria blend."
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19:43 <@Shadow404> that was fun
19:43 <@Shadow404> just took the gf to the backyard and showed her the ISS passing over
19:43 <@Shadow404> Tue Oct 28, 7:36 PM	6 min	62°	10 above NW	11 above SE
19:47 < aestetix> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/28/smuggling-snowden-secrets/
19:56 < RangerZ> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/10/28/2038217/ken-hams-ark-torpedoed-with-charges-of-religious-discrimination hahaha
19:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ken Ham's Ark Torpedoed With Charges of Religious Discrimination - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
19:56 < RangerZ> title + part of government bitch slapping another part
20:00 <@wilpig> Shadow404: I suppose that's better than you taking her back there and showing her uranus
20:00 < RangerZ> why would she want to see more of that?
20:01 < RangerZ> plus they have the medical equipment in the house
20:01 <@Shadow404> wilpig: well, that was after the ISS passed.
20:01 <@Shadow404> and that was her idea
20:02 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: tbh, i actually donated medical chair to a club in RL
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20:12 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: Yeah, Gizmonda kinda goofed.
20:15 <@Shadow404> buying these for the gf: http://www.amazon.com/Portal-Companion-Womens-Briefs-Medium/dp/B009Z3YWOS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1414541718&sr=8-1&keywords=companion+cube+panties
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20:27 <@wilpig> dinner time!
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22:29 < RangerZ1> sec. of state kerry went to canada today and said "... [we're sorry you had a terrorist attack... etc] ... then "we're always glad to have canada as a neighbor... " and my mind basically added in <fuck mexico> after that, hehe
22:32 <@wilpig> Dolemite: http://io9.com/syfy-basically-admits-they-screwed-up-1651974076
22:33 <@wilpig> scifi getting back to making science fiction.
22:33 <@wilpig> wonder if they'll drop the wrestling shit from their lineup now
22:34 < RangerZ1> I'd just be happy if they hosted dramas again like Eurika
22:34 < RangerZ1> or gods forbid... even shows ABOUT real world science
22:34 <@wilpig> that counted as science fiction too though
22:35 < RangerZ1> wilpig: i know, i mean a drama about sci fi
22:36 <@wilpig> they got burned on the bsg prequel with too much drama
22:36 <@wilpig> wtf was that called?
22:46 < RangerZ1> galaxy i think
22:46 < RangerZ1> ohh wait
22:46 < RangerZ1> BSG not stargate
22:46 < RangerZ1> caprica
22:46 < RangerZ1> and stargate universe
22:47 <@opticron> gatetrek?
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23:25 < RangerZ1> aestetix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-MeC31E2Tk
23:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Online Harassment Makes MSNBC Host Think Twice Before Tweeting - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:26 < RangerZ1> great discussion of 'some' of the issues with twitter/youtube
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