--- Log opened Sun Oct 26 00:00:12 2014
00:17 < RangerZ> actually aestetix how did the rain help? much if at all?
00:19 < aestetix> no
00:19 < aestetix> it would take a massive rainstorm every day for the rest of the year to even begin to help
00:20 < aestetix> http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
00:20 < RangerZ> so what is the long term plans?
00:20 < RangerZ> are*
00:20 < RangerZ> is/plan
00:20 < RangerZ> they looking towards desalination?
00:20 < RangerZ> cloud seeding?
00:21 < RangerZ> rain dancing?
00:21 < aestetix> http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Home/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?CA
00:21 < aestetix> look at that
00:21 < RangerZ> crying every time they look at the great lakes?
00:21 < RangerZ> LOL
00:22 < RangerZ> compared to the water treaties out west
00:22 < RangerZ> the weater treaty about the great lakes is fucking simple
00:23 < RangerZ> any property within the watersheads has 1st right of access to the water, then then within ... (i think 40miles outside of that) has 2nd
00:23 < RangerZ> the water treaties between states (out west are fucking insane)
00:23 < RangerZ> even mention changinge them at all, almost lost mccain the presidency before sarah palin's choice
00:24 < RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_Compact found it
00:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Colorado River Compact - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
00:25 < RangerZ> google-fu has been picking back up due to searching for shit tons of academic papers
00:25 < RangerZ> aestetix: you're likely to be the only person who might use this http://jabref.sourceforge.net/
00:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: JabRef reference manager (at jabref.sourceforge.net)
00:27 < RangerZ> http://jabref.sourceforge.net/resources.php there is plugins to automate downloading anyting with a DOI marker or arXiv
00:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: JabRef reference manager (at jabref.sourceforge.net)
00:27 < RangerZ> so just find all the journal articles you want, then visit a campus and mass-download them
00:27 < RangerZ> plus it has built in-serach funcationality for google-scholar and others
00:28 < RangerZ> I have ~220 references in my own perosnal database i'm building up of potential citations
00:28 < RangerZ> already using it for my prelims paper, its fucking great
00:28 < RangerZ> would really help your nym rights stuff
00:29 < RangerZ> citations & quotes (& new persepectives you've never thought of) will really be of use
00:31 < RangerZ> plus, if you use LaTeX and BibTeX, you can make your papers look amazing, with really nice citations (MLA/APA/Chicago) IEEE/ACM/etc with the click of a button
00:32 < RangerZ> pronounced "Lah-tech", not what Shadow404 wears
00:34 < RangerZ> loll
00:34 < RangerZ> llol
00:34 < RangerZ> ohh fuck it
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01:41 < vyrus001> anybody got a pe file anatomy chart <_<?
01:41 < RangerZ> umm?
01:41 < RangerZ> of ?
01:42 < RangerZ> b/c those are multi-layered
01:42 < RangerZ> you just mean muscle groups?
01:42 < RangerZ> http://www.brianmac.co.uk/pictures/muscles/muscles2.gif
01:44 < RangerZ> https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y_zs1l_66ws/UivSMZcmjFI/AAAAAAAAAAc/uW2JAxsaoI0/s1600/Bodybuilding-Anatomy1.jpg
01:44 < RangerZ> etc
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03:40 <@Bahhumbug> Oh wow....  Dru's putting together a scavenger hunt.  This changes everything.
03:40 <@Dagmar> Well, it's something
03:40 <@Bahhumbug> And what's even funnier...  The headers on this say it's going to dc303-chat, nlug-talk and ale@ale.org only.
03:41 <@Bahhumbug> What... he can't even send it to the list for the fucking organization that is sponsoring the thing?
03:41 <@Bahhumbug> err, dc404, too
03:41 <@Dagmar> Well, they already know and everyone else is apparently some kind of counter-insurgent or something
03:41 <@Dagmar> I'm rather certain that *someone's* going to have to address this madness
03:42 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah... I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
03:43 <@Dagmar> You're dealing with a group of people who actually were not terribly surprised about anything Snowden leaked.
03:44 <@Dagmar> I am *quite* certain people have noticed.
03:44 <@Dagmar> I have _faith_ that _intelligence_ and _cold reason_ will not disappear.
03:45 <@Bahhumbug> There is a prerequisite to that, I believe.  It involves one crazy bitch and an elevator shaft.
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03:54 <@Dagmar> Hahahaa
03:54 <@Dagmar> There is SO much sarcasm in this Dr. Who
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03:54 <@Dagmar> It is _epic_
03:57 <@Dagmar> hahahaaha
04:18 < RangerZ1> no... that wasn't passive aggressive at all.. nope... *twiddles thumbs waiting for everyone to get the email*
04:22 <@Dagmar> Man the look on his face when he realized he'd just told a bunch of children they're about to die
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06:48 <@Shadow404> this Mike Walker dude, makes a good point
06:49 < aestetix> Shadow404: how's anal play been lately?
06:49 <@Shadow404> empty.....hehe
07:43 < RangerZ2> Shadow404: thanks, lol
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10:04 <@wilpig> oh boy.  how much fun is there to be had with  
10:04 <@wilpig> 'And seriously everyone,  if  things  aren't  being  done  to  your  liking take  a bigger  role  next  year  and  make  sure  they  are  done  "right".  '
10:08 <@Dickie> Dagmar: wanted to try to leave that container in the sun today
10:08 <@Dickie> DENSE FOG
10:08 <@Dickie> Gonna try hot water and degreaser today if I have time
10:33 <@wilpig> what is the word i'm looking for?  when you make a deal with someone and you agree to give them something they want as well?  consession?
10:39 <@wilpig> drumroll please.  lets's see if I can post to the phreaknic group or not
10:40 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3keuolsiskiv6u/Screen%20Shot%202014-10-26%20at%2010.40.20%20AM.png?dl=0
10:40 <@wilpig> useless google groups
10:42 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iaqv3f7huz2k7zh/Screen%20Shot%202014-10-26%20at%2010.42.19%20AM.png?dl=0
10:42 <@wilpig> denied...
10:46  * wilpig yells BURN THIS FUCKER DOWN!
10:47 <@wilpig> Dagmar: pleaes feel free to set whatever and whomever you want on fire at this point
11:21 < RangerZ2> yeah... I got fed up with finding out about cloak and dagger comm channels avoiding this one
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11:22 <@wilpig> my shit is still being moderated.  so fuck them
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12:24 <@wilpig> our network engineer guys are about to get a lesson in duh huh
12:25 <@wilpig> now I understand the security reasons of having ports you aren't using on a switch set to a config so they are useless, however...
12:26 <@wilpig> we have limited 10g capacity and those are the ports they disabled knowing we have 30+ new nodes needing them
12:27 <@wilpig> the dc got a flood of tickets from nodes that won't work due to failing network connections checks
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15:53 <@Shadow404> video link still broken
15:53 <@Shadow404> heh
15:53 <@Shadow404> and good job with the attached png pic
15:56 <@wilpig> did I attach a pic?  I thought I just sent a link to one
15:56 <@wilpig> wanted to show my shit was still being moderated
16:12 < aestetix> ugh
16:12 < aestetix> I love coursera classes
16:12 < aestetix> but I hate getting the "we're halfway through!" emails
16:13 <@Shadow404> it was a link
16:13 <@Shadow404> link/attachment, potatoe, potatooo
16:42 < aestetix> maybe I should start saying asshole in honor of Shadow404
16:43 < aestetix> in addition to penis and vagina
17:03 <@oddball> Ok... finally called them out on this "well, you should come to the secret meetings!" bullshit.
17:04 <@wilpig> you did that on the list they are ignoring
17:05 <@wilpig> it's the only place I can post
17:05  * aestetix watches the drama begin to unfold
17:05 <@oddball> Yeah, I know...but at least the folks that pay attention to the list know.
17:06 <@oddball> aestetix: begin to unfold?  Hell, I thought you would have gone through a few buckets of popcorn by now.
17:06 < aestetix> lol
17:08 <@wilpig> he doesn't need a bucket if he hasn't got a date
17:08 < aestetix> wilpig: how's the sex life?
17:10 <@wilpig> if I had a date i'd get a bucket of popcorn myself
17:11 <@Shadow404> hmm, i could go for some popcorn now
17:11 <@Shadow404> ill go grab my gf and throw something on netflix.....
17:12 <@oddball> hmmm... I think there might be popcorn in the pantry.
17:13 <@oddball> But... fuck it... that's inside and I'm currently enjoying a sunny day in my hammock.
17:13 < aestetix> I wonder if Anita Sarkeesian will release a new video anytime soon
17:14 < aestetix> maybe you should invite her to phreaknic
17:14 <@oddball> heh
17:25 <@wilpig> she'd fit in 
18:02 < aestetix> I am playing bioshock infinite
18:02 < aestetix> where did they get the idea that not having savegames was a good idea
18:19 <@Dagmar> You don't need them
18:20 <@Dagmar> If it appears you need them, you're doing something fucking wrong, like trying to play Quake
18:22 <@Dagmar> Ah-ha
18:23 <@Dagmar> 2 friends already own this game:
18:23 <@Dagmar> Spiderhack - Played 17.7 hours
18:23 <@Dagmar> wilpig - Played 15.7 hours.
18:23 <@Dagmar> That's why it's been so quiet in here.
18:26 < RangerZ1> nah
18:26 < RangerZ1> i was catching up on sleep b/c of other reasons
18:26 <@wilpig> haha
18:26 < RangerZ1> i alt tabbed out of the game and went to sleep
18:26 <@Dagmar> The metacritic user rating is not impressing me
18:26 <@wilpig> that damn game.  it's still kicking my ass.  I'm not getting the hang of the tech tree just yet
18:26 < RangerZ1> i'd hold off for a while
18:27 < RangerZ1> its civ 5 ...'in space'
18:27 <@wilpig> yeah pretty much
18:27 <@wilpig> it has a few neat additions.  the new spy stuff is much better than 5
18:27 <@Dagmar> I'm also seeing people say some stuff about bugs that probably shoudln't be there for release
18:28 <@wilpig> i've hit one bug and it was a UI thing that was in 5 too
18:29 <@wilpig> that rare condition where you can bring up a dialog and then the game finishes a turn and spawns one behind it but you can't click anything to clear them
18:29 <@wilpig> you pretty much have to exit or hit esc til it comes back
18:31 <@wilpig> anyone know what would fix this offhand?  http://hastebin.com/ohaloxezih.hs
18:31 <@GateKeeper> Title: hastebin (at hastebin.com)
18:35 < RangerZ1> they have a 'tech web' instead of a tree now, and you can queue up techs to be learned in order, and units/buildings
18:36 < RangerZ1> so unless you are fighting, you can go 50 turns without doing anything
18:36 <@wilpig> you can queue those up?  I saw you can queue up buildings and what not
18:36 < RangerZ1> just hold shift
18:36 < RangerZ1> then click
18:37 < RangerZ1> then the 'trade convoys' are kinda a PITA
18:37 < RangerZ1> but yeah, spies are much cooler
18:37 <@wilpig> the trade convoys seem better to me than previous iterations
18:37 <@wilpig> they are annoying that they end and don't just keep going
18:38 < RangerZ1> yeah
18:39 < RangerZ1> or don't have a 'repeat' button easily available
18:39 <@wilpig> they kinda show you the previous route
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18:47 < RangerZ1> yeah, but i'd still like it to be easier to just have it repeat that route over and over
18:56 < RangerZ1> http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/10/25/playboy-playmate-pamela-horton-slays-em-as-bayonetta-nintendo-and-playboy-combine-forces-to-promote-bayonetta-2/
19:04 <@oddball> aestetix: On the lack of save games: you can thank consoles for that.
19:04 < RangerZ1> playboy + nintendo = surprisingly tasteful and attractive
19:20 <@oddball> Does that mean there's a release date for it yet?
19:27 <@wilpig> oddball: it's out now
19:27 <@wilpig> came out last week, iirc
19:27 <@wilpig> there is a sale on the wii-u now for 1+2 for like $60
19:29 <@oddball> It did?  Damnit... when I was in to buy Hyrule Warriors, the guy at Game Stop didn't know when it was coming out.  Didn't even have a "coming soon" box.
19:30 <@oddball> Ah... it came out on the 24th.
19:39  * Bahhumbug makes note of the *crickets* on the mailing list.
19:40 <@wilpig> I need to take a new drive to work in the morning too.  the one I have on the wii currently is about to kick it.  i've heard the click of death from it several times now
19:48 <@oddball> Oh dear
20:06 <@oddball> Speaking of games... apparently there's going to be a new Saint's Row game in January.
20:07 <@oddball> This time, you're in hell... and they still fail to give any fucks.
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20:32 < k3ymkr> On twitter, "Phreaknic" announced the schedule.
20:33 < k3ymkr> https://t.co/qRiRkQkXbv
20:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: Google Calendar (at t.co)
20:34 < k3ymkr> I don't use google calendar normally, but I don't see anything there.
20:35 < k3ymkr> phreaknic.info has a link to a spreadsheet that seems to display.
20:41 <@wilpig> HAHAHAHAAH https://phreaknic.info/content/schedule
20:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Schedule | PhreakNIC (at phreaknic.info)
20:41 <@wilpig> oh that's fuckin' priceless
20:41 <@wilpig> massive CMS can't do calendar
20:42 <@wilpig> thursday schedule.  pre-reg + movies
20:42 <@wilpig> good thing they told everyone it starts on thursday
20:44 <@wilpig> good lord.  elonka is speaking three times, this les johnson three times, chad ramey twice
20:45 <@wilpig> make that les johnson four times
20:45 <@wilpig> keith watson twice.  but this is the funniest. "Keynote: Welcome to PhreakNIC 18 by PhreakNIC Staff"  slotted for 45 minutes on friday night
21:05 <@oddball> Well, at least they didn't manage to post the spreadsheet up so that anyone could edit it?
21:07 <@wilpig> so who wants to be my mole?
21:07 <@Shadow404> someone make a paypal joke about the 2cents comment pls
21:08 <@wilpig> They are planning on publicly showing movies, which I doubt will be something from the hotel cable network which means that public display rights will have to be secured prior to said screenings
21:09 <@SuMo_D> Is anarchival "staff" now
21:09 <@SuMo_D> is she just going to rant for the keynote?
21:09 <@wilpig> who knows
21:09 <@wilpig> maybe that's her special girls only talk she wanted
21:10 <@SuMo_D> girls only at PN.... yeah all 3
21:10 <@wilpig> if you won't be there... 2
21:10 <@wilpig> peaches and anarchival
21:10 <@oddball> The real question is what her title is.
21:10 <@SuMo_D> yeah no.... I won't be there
21:11 <@wilpig> dementia is still talking about going down there and walking around the hotel with a bucket of popcorn
21:11 <@wilpig> she said she isn't considering even remotely staying at that hotel
21:11 <@wilpig> so oddball, you have to give her a hug for me
21:11 <@wilpig> I miss dementia. :(
21:13 <@oddball> I'm curious what the "gaming lab" will be, since I believe just about all the video gaming stuff was wilpig's and pretty much any of the tabletop stuff was mine.
21:13 <@wilpig> I donated the ps3
21:13 <@wilpig> the wii-u, the gamecube, the xbox were all mine
21:13 <@wilpig> I was going to donate the xbox as well but dru pissed me off
21:13 <@wilpig> I shouldn't have done the ps3 but whatever
21:13 <@oddball> Ok... so they have a PS3... did you donate any games?
21:13 <@wilpig> benthemeek has the quake setup
21:13 <@wilpig> maybe a few
21:14 <@wilpig> the driving games with the steering wheels
21:14 <@oddball> Ah, right.  Forgot about the quake boxes.
21:14 <@oddball> Wait... Dem's seriously saying she's coming down?
21:14 <@wilpig> she booked a ticket a while ago
21:14 <@wilpig> I think the ticket was cheap so you might end up with a houseguest
21:14 <@wilpig> hit her up
21:15 <@oddball> I will.
21:16 <@wilpig> oh, just not right this second
21:16 <@wilpig> she's making dinner
21:16 <@Bahhumbug> Good to see Tilghman still pushing the company line.
21:17 <@wilpig> plex does some weird shit sometimes
21:17 <@wilpig> it's rescanning all my tvshows
21:19 <@Bahhumbug> wilpig: That's called "padding"; one does it when one is incapable of booking a full schedule of speakers.
21:20 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: I know damn well what it is.  I am just laughing at how much is being done
21:21 <@wilpig> they were boasting having three tracks full fo speakers on different topics per track and here you have one track for two days and a laughable third day
21:21 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
21:21 <@oddball> ahh... so apparently it's my fault for not being able to hear the fucking whispering and note passing at the end of the table.
21:21 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: Yep :)
21:21 <@wilpig> did one of them finally pipe up?
21:21 <@Bahhumbug> Isn't that the meeting they also just all got up and left?
21:22 <@Bahhumbug> I think Dru is going to owe whomever shells out money for the event a huge apology at the end.
21:22 <@oddball> wilpig: Only when Dru decided to ask me about the Hypericon folks doing the consuite.
21:23 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: that's his VP
21:23 <@Bahhumbug> I meant the attendees.  I couldn't possibly care less about McElroy.  I hope his company loses everything the invested.
21:24 <@Bahhumbug> When you pad to the extent they are doing here they owe people paying to attend at _least_ an apology.
21:25 <@Bahhumbug> And Ben's talking shit.
21:25 <@Bahhumbug> Or would be if he would bother being in this channel once and a while.
21:25  * Bahhumbug wonders why he's even on that list anymore other than the popcorn.
21:26 <@wilpig> well wtf.  my wdtv has decided to flip its shit trying to connect to my nfs share
21:26 <@wilpig> guess I need to enable debugging and figure out what just shit the bed 
21:31 < aestetix> Ben is wrong.
21:31 < aestetix> There are no trolls here.
21:32 <@wilpig> what do you call Shadow404 ?
21:35 < aestetix> hehe
21:35 < aestetix> I wonder if Ben will ignore that email.
21:37 <@wilpig> holy shit... ben's lost his fucking mind
21:37 <@Bahhumbug> He's following the company line.
21:38 <@Bahhumbug> Just like Tilghman.
21:38 <@Bahhumbug> Aka, they both have no balls or are deluded.
21:38 <@wilpig> the last thing he said to oddball just now
21:38 <@wilpig> it's 100% pure delusion
21:41 <@Bahhumbug> I prefer "fabrication".
21:42 <@Bahhumbug> I used to like Ben; I always found him level-headed here.
21:42 <@Bahhumbug> Too bad he hasn't just drank the koolaide but is drowning in it.
21:47 <@wilpig> Bahhumbug: I'm guessing you saw the adventures of captain no chin and that the cop lady is still alive?
21:47 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
21:47 <@Bahhumbug> There wasn't any way they could write her out of the show.
21:48 <@wilpig> sure they could.  would just have to introduce a new chick, or bring back the crazy ex-wife
21:49 <@oddball> Holy shit, The Crow: Wicked Prayer had a number of fairly big name actors that clearly needed money.
21:49 <@Bahhumbug> The cast doesn't have much depth as it is - I'm not sure they could afford to lose the primary love interest and police department connection.
21:53 <@oddball> Captain no chin?
21:53 <@wilpig> haha "he's a hero.  he saved my life.  you should make out with him and another misses"
21:54 <@wilpig> oddball: a canadian cop/detective show called "Republic of Doyle"  I maintain the lead character has no chin
21:54 <@oddball> ah
21:56 <@oddball> worth watching?
21:56 <@wilpig> not bad
21:56 <@wilpig> I blame Bahhumbug for getting me to watch it
21:57 <@Bahhumbug> It's campy.
21:57 <@Bahhumbug> Speaking of campy...  that mailing list would make a good prime time soap opera.
21:57 <@oddball> heh
21:58 <@Bahhumbug> So much absolute bullshit.  No one bothering to call them out line by line.
22:00 <@wilpig> bah.  wdtv just fucked up.  might have to reboot this thing
22:03 <@wilpig> okay just verified my server is just fine via the laptop and my desktop.  it's just the wdtv being retarded.
22:07 <@wilpig> i'm beginning to suspect it might have a cap wearing out
22:10 <@Bahhumbug> Who  the fuck is "Zadeaux McKillan"?
22:13 <@wilpig> kid from atlanta I think
22:14 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 48 nicks [26 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal]
22:16 <@Bahhumbug> How cute.  A "schedule" was posted.  As a link.  To a google calendar.
22:16 <@Bahhumbug> Maybe I just expect too much from people.
22:16  * Bahhumbug shrigs
22:16 <@oddball> See... I don't really have an issue with that.
22:16 <@Bahhumbug> Yes, that's a new word.  "shrigs"
22:17 <@oddball> And the schedule they have isn't that bad compared to years past.  Now... the super-awesome program Dru was promising...
22:18 <@wilpig> it's not bad until you consider you have one speaker talking four times over the three days
22:19 <@wilpig> elonka three times
22:19 <@wilpig> and two of the others twice each
22:20 <@wilpig> elonka is one of the few people that I ever let on the schedule twice, but not more
22:24 <@wilpig> this once upon a time show is making me shake my head
22:27 <@oddball> It's not bad after it gets some steam behind it.
22:27 <@Bahhumbug> I like it.  It's entertaining.
22:27 <@wilpig> the current season 
22:27 <@wilpig> the frozen chicks
22:28 <@wilpig> nobody thinks it's odd she's wearing a prom dress everywhere
22:29 <@oddball> ah
22:29 <@Dagmar> Okay.
22:30 <@Dagmar> Today the motherboard of evil has decided that sometimes one of it's RAM sticks don't exist.
22:30 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking that since I have a motherboard which may or may not be DoA here, what I need to order is a new APU and 16gb more RAM
22:30 <@Dagmar> HOPEFULLY HAVING AN ENTIRE SECOND PC IN PARTS HERE WILL BE ENOUGH
22:30 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, I'm taking up fucking cabinetry.
22:31 <@wilpig> hrmm.
22:31 <@wilpig> could be a faulty stick, or it could just be a flakey board being a dick
22:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's the thing that's pissing me off the most
22:33 <@Dagmar> It could be any of the three major components I can't test separately without ordering more gear
22:33 <@Dagmar> At the moment I'm running in single-channel mode to see how well that works
22:35 <@wilpig> in single channel can you run a single dimm at a time to test?
22:35 <@Dagmar> I'd like to see you run dual-channel witn a single DIMM
22:36 <@wilpig> I had a couple of bad processors at work that we could only trigger their faults when running as a pair and only when the memory was properly installed in the right paired slots
22:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah I'm really thinking the memory controller on the APU is failing
22:38 <@Dagmar> I'm ordering an A10-5800K
22:38 <@Dagmar> ...and another Mushkin redline 2x8Gb PC3-14900 (DDR3-1866) pair
22:39 < ShadowHn1r> I've been gifted my dad's ex-desktop
22:39 < ShadowHn1r> AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754 based
22:39 < ShadowHn1r> 2GB DDR1
22:39 < ShadowHn1r> I know it's not much, but would deal as a light-duty server just fine.
22:40 -!- ShadowHn1r is now known as ShadowHntr
22:40 < RangerZ2> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/10/26/2137245/solving-the-mystery-of-declining-female-cs-enrollment
22:40 -!- ShadowHntr [~alex@ec2-54-235-164-175.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Changing host]
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22:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Solving the Mystery of Declining Female CS Enrollment - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
22:40 < RangerZ2> I haven't read it yet... but it will be interesting
22:40 <@Dagmar> That would actually make a pretty nice server, although I'd scrounge up more RAM for it
22:41 <@Dagmar> I know I am DAMN TIRED of regreasing my fucking APU
22:41 <@Dagmar> Nine goddamn times this week
22:41 <@Dagmar> I need to start usin a razor blade as a spreading knife
22:41 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: it's only a single-core though
22:41 <@Dagmar> I didn't say I've be using it as a VM host or something
22:41 <@ShadowHntr> and i think i've reached the official RAM limit
22:41 <@Bahhumbug> Nice firewall box, ShadowHntr
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> maybe
22:42 <@Dagmar> Okay if the sockets are full then you're done
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> i have a Gateway Essential Pentium III/700 that i think i might use as a firewall
22:42 <@Dagmar> That would be more than enough hardware to operate as a service firewall
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> trying to decide between a P3/700 or a VIA C3/1GHz
22:42 <@Bahhumbug> My firewall was a P2 until a few months ago.
22:42 <@Dagmar> DHCP DNS and iptables no problem
22:42 <@Bahhumbug> (At the house)
22:42 <@Dagmar> Oh and screen/tmux of course
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> cool
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> i'd be using pfSense though
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> Which would be fine on hardware of that caliber.
22:44 <@ShadowHntr> yeah i've used it on a P2/400
22:44 <@ShadowHntr> but this time i have a thin client Wyse WinTerm J400 VIA C3/1GHz
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> and i have some 1GB IDE flash modules
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> to populate with the software
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> should make it pretty damn nice =)
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> but i do need a lot of PCI 10/100, preferably 1GB NICs
22:45 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, I junked about 20 of those this past summer.
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> gigabit NICs?
22:45 <@Dagmar> I think when I go to bed I'll stick both DIMMs in the machine in the same channel
22:45 <@Bahhumbug> j400's
22:46 <@ShadowHntr> oh
22:46 <@ShadowHntr> :P
22:46 <@ShadowHntr> well i'd like to set aside a couple of them
22:46 <@ShadowHntr> for an idea i have
22:46 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed.
22:46 < RangerZ2> just get a 10gbit nic
22:46 < RangerZ2> only need a PCI-E card
22:46 < RangerZ2> lol
22:46 <@ShadowHntr> RangerZ2: i didn't know they had PCI 10gig nics out there
22:46 < RangerZ2> yeah
22:46 <@ShadowHntr> we dealt with x4 10gig nics all the time at amazon
22:46 < RangerZ2> like 300$
22:46 < RangerZ2> for 'consumer' level
22:46 < RangerZ2> or something like that
22:47 <@ShadowHntr> of course they were on quad or higher number core Xeons
22:47 < RangerZ2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=10gb%20nic%20intel&Submit=ENE dual port
22:47 < RangerZ2> 378$
22:48 < RangerZ2> apparently 'big time' youtubers use them for transfereing raw videos between workstatsions (where I heard about them)
22:49 <@wilpig> ShadowHntr: we have a could quad port 10g nics at work
22:49 <@wilpig> they're pci-e
22:56 <@Dagmar> The really sad thing about this is I can't really go ahead and upgrade my video card.
22:56 <@Dagmar> The APU is almost as fucking powerful as my 550Ti and I should just be looking into whether or not I can actually make this crossfire hybrid stuff work
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> yeah i want to get hybrid crossfire with my next rig
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> it *will* be eithe ra A10 APU or another Opteron
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> maybe a Xeon
22:57 <@Dagmar> I dont' have a lot of choise.  I'm not willingly buying an ATI video card.  ;)
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not willingly buying an Intel consumer grade CPU.
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> they're just overpriced.
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> I can buy a Xeon off eBay
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> I have been doing that off and on for the past several years.
23:00 <@ShadowHntr> http://valid.canardpc.com/2827730
23:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: CPU-Z Validator 3.1 (at valid.canardpc.com)
23:00 <@wilpig> want to place any bets on this working?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/z91m6rrwstgcpvs/Screen%20Shot%202014-10-26%20at%2010.59.57%20PM.png?dl=0
23:00 <@ShadowHntr> that's my desktop/engineering rig i built right before i left Amazon
23:00 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck
23:01 <@Dagmar> Ah nevermind
23:01 <@ShadowHntr> dunno
23:01 <@Dagmar> I just thought for a moment my MythTV box had a CPU I could scavenge.
23:01 <@Dagmar> No, I'm stupid.  the only FM2+ chip in the house is in my desktop
23:01 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
23:02 <@Dagmar> Even the fileserver is s Phenom 925
23:02 <@ShadowHntr> i like the Phenom
23:02 <@Dagmar> (which is AM3)
23:02 <@ShadowHntr> I wanted an X3
23:03 <@ShadowHntr> now it's a hexa-core that i'd ultimately like to get
23:04 <@ShadowHntr> you wouldn't happen to have some extra PCI gigabit nics layingg around, would ou?
23:05 <@ShadowHntr> i don't think the particular chipset matters for my firewall
23:05 <@ShadowHntr> since it uses freebsd
23:08 <@ShadowHntr> freebsd
23:08 <@ShadowHntr> freebsd
23:08 <@ShadowHntr> freebsd
23:08 <@ShadowHntr> oy, i think my keyboard is going haywire ;)
23:10 <@ShadowHntr> ugh :P
23:12 <@wilpig> quick! blame it on me.
23:12 <@wilpig> that's the in thing to do
23:12 <@ShadowHntr> nah you're fine
23:13 <@ShadowHntr> unless you can help me out with the NICs
23:13 <@ShadowHntr> ;l)
23:13 <@wilpig> negatory good buddy
23:13 <@ShadowHntr> :(
23:13 <@ShadowHntr> well you're no help ;)
23:13 <@ShadowHntr> no worrries though
23:14 <@wilpig> civ is almost done downloading on my work laptop.  time to see if this will work.  lol
23:14 <@ShadowHntr> good luck
23:15 <@wilpig> the mouse tracking is off a hair.  but I can probably fix that by forcing it to full screen
23:16 <@wilpig> bah!  requires dx11
23:16 <@ShadowHntr> lol
23:16 <@ShadowHntr> whoops
23:17 <@ShadowHntr> anyone here play with reactos yet?
23:17 <@wilpig> which isn't supported by wine
23:17 <@ShadowHntr> wilpig: try virtualbox
23:17 <@ShadowHntr> there's a vagrant base box available with windows 7
23:17 <@wilpig> I can do that but it runs like a dog
23:17 <@ShadowHntr> as well as a windows xp base box
23:18 <@ShadowHntr> i don't mind having a dual boot box with windows being defauillt
23:18 <@ShadowHntr> or just using linux in a VM
23:18 <@wilpig> I've gotten semi-used to osx
23:19 <@wilpig> with the steam streaming I can play most of my shit on here when i'm at home from the other box but not when i'm at work
23:19 <@wilpig> I was kinda wanting to poke at that tomorrow at work
23:19 <@wilpig> ShadowHntr: are you still job hunting? or am I thinking of someone else?
23:21 <@ShadowHntr> you got me here there
23:22 <@ShadowHntr> still llooking
23:22 <@ShadowHntr> check out my linkedin profile for my credentials
23:22 <@ShadowHntr> if it helps :)
23:23 <@wilpig> we're still looking for a dc tech, but they are being semi-picky.  too picky
23:23 <@wilpig> if you ask me
23:23 <@ShadowHntr> argh
23:23 <@ShadowHntr> they'd have to offer relocation assistance
23:24 <@ShadowHntr> where are you based
23:24 < RangerZ2> http://mashable.com/2014/10/25/apple-pay-blocked-at-rite-aid-and-cvs-reports-say/ this is so fucking stupid
23:24 < RangerZ2> QR codes instead of NFC
23:24 < RangerZ2> b/c we all know how fast QR codes scan... :/
23:25 <@wilpig> ShadowHntr: piscataway, nj
23:26 <@ShadowHntr> i guess i'd be willing to relo
23:26 <@ShadowHntr> if assistance is offered
23:27 <@ShadowHntr> and pay rate is competititve
23:28 <@wilpig> pay rate was competive, they don't typically do moving assistence but they did for me
23:28 <@wilpig> worth talking to in any case
23:28 <@ShadowHntr> to relo
23:28 <@wilpig> http://boards.greenhouse.io/tumblr/jobs/17899?gh_jid=17899
23:28 <@wilpig> just tell them I sent you.
23:30 <@ShadowHntr> will they want your real name?
23:31 <@ShadowHntr> holy crap, you work at tumblr?
23:32 <@ShadowHntr> cool!
23:32 <@ShadowHntr> :)
23:32 <@wilpig> you can tell them wilbur or wilpig
23:32 <@wilpig> they know me as both
23:32 <@ShadowHntr> ok cool :)
23:32 <@wilpig> I mean hell my email is wilpig@tumblr.com  ;)
23:33 <@wilpig> it's also one of those things you can put on a resume that looks really good, imo worth the trouble to move
23:33 <@ShadowHntr> wow no idea
23:58 <@wilpig> night all.
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