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00:42 < Synx|hm> nobody want to learn me on ipv6?
00:52 < RangerZ1> don't worry you don't need to know ipv6
00:52 < RangerZ1> by the time they put it in place 50% + places
00:52 < RangerZ1> we'll need ipv8
00:53 < Synx|hm> haha
01:34 < aestetix> man
01:34 < aestetix> the west wing is brilliant
01:34 < aestetix> I wish the newsroom were as good
01:45 < RangerZ> its good, but it has less to work with
01:45 < RangerZ> the president NEEDS to deal with drama all the time
01:48 < RangerZ> aestetix: I have the entire west wing dvd collection on my amazon wish list for gift ideas for my mom
01:48 < RangerZ> lol
01:49 < RangerZ> only 82$ (just looked)
01:49 < RangerZ> that and house MD
01:52 < aestetix> fair enough
01:52 < aestetix> it's also on netflix
01:52 < aestetix> yes omg I have been watching a series legally
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01:55 < RangerZ> plus sorkin is better at creating worlds/characters than using them
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02:05 < Synx|hm> nothing i love more than working late into the night
02:05 < Synx|hm> im on a conf call right now, and there is a guy breathing heaivly into his phone and hicuping
02:05 < Synx|hm> clearely drunk
02:05 < Synx|hm> poor guy, they called him out of the blue
02:05 < Synx|hm> he sounds like he's hurting
02:11 < RangerZ> could be worse, you could be hearing whips cracking and then 'ugh's from his phone
02:11 < Synx|hm> ha, id prefer that
02:12 < RangerZ> or is Shadow404 not on that call?
02:12 < Synx|hm> im drinking mysely anyways
02:12 < RangerZ> your spelling shows ;)
02:12 < Synx|hm> this was susposed to be over 15min ago, but massive failures so we will keep testing for at least another 3hours
02:12 < Synx|hm> im already 3 fingers into some burbon
02:15 < RangerZ> damn boy
02:15 < RangerZ> settle down
02:15 < RangerZ> soon you'll be a drunkard who is 'sure' that everyone in the channel is out to get you
02:16 < Synx|hm> haha
02:16 < RangerZ> when at most its 3~4 of us
02:19 < Synx|hm> im going to go get more to drink
02:23 < RangerZ> 'famous last words'
02:23 < RangerZ> that and 'bubba, hold my beer'
02:26 < Synx|hm> meh
02:32 < Synx|hm> know what happens when you set a cisco switch for force 100/full without auto negoation
02:32 < Synx|hm> all the other devices end up at half duplex
02:33 < Synx|hm> holy fuck, these assholes blamed me for this this AM and demanded we deliver free testing tonight, which we are doing
02:33 < Synx|hm> turns out their entire network is degraded to half duplex because the cisco guy is an idiot
02:34 < Synx|hm> im not a CCNA so someone call me out for being wrong if so
02:35 < RangerZ> can i call you out for being wrong, without knowing the right answer?
02:35 < Synx|hm> yes
02:35 < RangerZ> you'd have loved the fucking hotels we had to support
02:35 < Synx|hm> because thats exactly what im doing
02:35 < Synx|hm> also, mini beef stick things are fucking amazing
02:35 < RangerZ> 1/2 to 2/3rds of our calls were b/c we had 10/half switches
02:36 < Synx|hm> haha
02:36 < RangerZ> and most NICs don't actually negotiate that properly
02:36 < RangerZ> b/c people don't fucking test that config
02:36 < RangerZ> but we got a 1000 24 port switches like that for like 5$
02:36 < RangerZ> so they bought them
02:36 < RangerZ> lol
02:36 < Synx|hm> ha
02:37 < RangerZ> so ALL broadcom and 3com nics would need manual config
02:37 < RangerZ> so a good portion of the fucking business community that used Marriotts had their nics set to half duplex 10
02:37 < RangerZ> LOL
02:37 < Synx|hm> haha awesome
02:38 < Synx|hm> makes sense why i can never get on the hotel internet at a marriott
02:38 < RangerZ> I always got a chuckle out of imagining the IT guys finding that and being like WTF
02:38 < RangerZ> for most things it probably wouldn't matter, except lan file transfers
02:38 < RangerZ> 10 would suck
02:38 < Synx|hm> holy fuck im right
02:38 < Synx|hm> http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/switches/catalyst-6500-series-switches/17053-46.html
02:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Troubleshooting Cisco Catalyst Switches to NIC Compatibility Issues - Cisco (at www.cisco.com)
02:39 < RangerZ> lol
02:41 < Synx|hm> table 1
02:41 < Synx|hm> details exactly what has happened here
02:41 < Synx|hm> guy doesn't want to believe me though even though i just called him out infront of everyone
02:41 < Synx|hm> ha
02:42 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: yeah, any hotel or public place, setting to half duplex actually is a good way to get connected, b/c a lot of older equipment only supported that
02:43 < RangerZ> and "if the GM/owner can connect" then "its their equipment that is at fault, not ours, despite it being token ring..."
02:43 < RangerZ> lol
02:46 < RangerZ> fucking hotel owners are cheaper than god damn anyone else i've ever even heard of
02:51 < RangerZ> plus a LOT of them are indian
02:51 < RangerZ> with last name patel
02:51 < RangerZ> and americanized first names like 'john' or 'sam'
02:51 < RangerZ> so much so that we thought it was a money laundering scheme
02:51 < RangerZ> lol
03:07 < aestetix> I just added three more words to my twitter filter
03:07 < aestetix> gamergate, inclusivity, and exclusivity
03:10 < aestetix> oh boy
03:10 < aestetix> http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/tech/utah-anita-sarkeesian-threat/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
03:10 < aestetix> it made CNN
03:11 < aestetix> and she brought gun control into it
03:13 <@Bahhumbug> Yay for non-encrypted sslv3 :/
03:13 < Synx|hm> what?
03:13 <@Bahhumbug> Yay for koji builders that have v3 hardcoded as their only auth mechanism.
03:13 <@Bahhumbug> http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.ca/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting-ssl-30.html
03:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Google Online Security Blog: This POODLE bites: exploiting the SSL 3.0 fallback (at googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.ca)
03:13 <@Bahhumbug> https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/10/14/poodle.html
03:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: ImperialViolet - POODLE attacks on SSLv3 (at www.imperialviolet.org)
03:13 <@Bahhumbug> Just dropped.
03:14 < Synx|hm> lovely
03:14 <@Bahhumbug> In Firefox you can go into about:config and set security.tls.version.min to 1
03:14 < Synx|hm> i thought TLS was susposed to replace SSL?
03:14 <@Bahhumbug> It's all a fucking dog and pony show at this point.
03:15 < Synx|hm> wait cipher block chaining fixes the issue
03:15 < Synx|hm> is this the same issue from long ago?
03:15 < Synx|hm> where you can do calculations if its not a chanced cipher to come up with the PT
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> No idea.
03:16 < Synx|hm> i recall reading something similar from years back
03:16 < Synx|hm> wonder if they just found a way to force the downgrade
03:16 <@Bahhumbug> It's possibly is based on that or something.
03:16 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh, English fail.
03:16 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: thats been known since the 70s
03:16 <@Bahhumbug> it's possible it's based on that or something.
03:16 < RangerZ> EBC is a fucking joke
03:16 < Synx|hm> ya that was it!
03:16 < RangerZ> sorry
03:16 < RangerZ> ECB*
03:16 < RangerZ> electronic code book
03:17 < RangerZ> CBC is good, but OFB is my preferred method , since it allows parallelization in decoding
03:18 < RangerZ> which i find kinda neat
03:18 < RangerZ> lol
03:18 < RangerZ> and it allows for partial decryption (IIRC) so really useful for DBs
03:18 < RangerZ> or achieves
03:19 < Synx|hm> welp
03:19 < Synx|hm> they just finally aborted the testing for a callcenter that goes live in 2 hours
03:19 < Synx|hm> HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
03:22 < RangerZ> aborted?
03:22 < RangerZ> or finished?
03:22 < RangerZ> lol
03:22 < Synx|hm> if finished also means massive failure
03:22 < Synx|hm> then yes finished
03:22 < RangerZ> hehe
03:22 < Synx|hm> :)
03:22 < RangerZ> so 'live in 2hrs' is not true either?
03:22 < RangerZ> hehe
03:23 < Synx|hm> they refused to just try what i said 2 hours ago, reset all cisco switches to 100/auto because its a known issue if the NIC is in AUTO and the switch 100/FULL you'll end up with a device at 100/half
03:23 < Synx|hm> well heres the thing, i was doing testing for a customer and this location was a 3rd party colo
03:23 < Synx|hm> so im guessing in 2 hours they are no longer gonig to be a customer of my customer
03:23 < Synx|hm> too bad because if they had followed my direction i could have saved them
03:24 < Synx|hm> or i should say, in 2 hours my customer is no longer going to be a customer of theirs
03:25 < RangerZ> not your problem
03:25 < RangerZ> until it is ;)
03:25 < RangerZ> and they call you at 7am
03:25 < RangerZ> lol
03:25 < Synx|hm> nope, until the big boss at MY customer gets on and yells at me for this being a failure
03:26 < Synx|hm> which happend last week, hence the free testing for them tonight
03:26 < Synx|hm> and then our pushover sales fucks give away more free services
03:27 < Synx|hm> basically i do all the work, do all the work for the customer most days, and get the lowest paycheck, and yelled at
03:27 < Synx|hm> by all sides
03:27 < Synx|hm> no way to win
03:27 < Synx|hm> except when i quit, im the only one who knows anything so they will be fucked
03:27 < Synx|hm> har har bitches
03:31 < RangerZ> lol
03:32 < Synx|hm> ok im going to attempt to go to bed now
03:32 < RangerZ> aka... most IT jobs?
03:32 < Synx|hm> yes!
03:32 < Synx|hm> g'night
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03:45 <@Bahhumbug> https://access.redhat.com/articles/1232123
03:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: POODLE: SSLv3.0 vulnerability (CVE-2014-3566) - Red Hat Customer Portal (at access.redhat.com)
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04:14 < RangerZ2> ohh fuck
04:14 < RangerZ2> i HATE patch tues
04:15 < RangerZ2> 'you don't get to decide when your pc boots, we decide for you'
04:28 <@Bahhumbug> Huh?
04:28 <@Bahhumbug> You are given an option to reboot; it's not done for you.
04:29 < RangerZ2> nope, it gives you 10min or at most 4hrs to wait for the reboot
04:29 < RangerZ2> thats 'default'
04:29 < RangerZ2> I need to change the settings to install on my decision
04:32 <@Bahhumbug> Umm...
04:32 <@Bahhumbug> It doesn't force a reboot.
04:32 <@Bahhumbug> At least mine doesn
04:32 <@Bahhumbug> doesn't.
04:32 <@Bahhumbug> It sits there waiting for a reply.
04:33 <@Bahhumbug> I may have changed something to get this behavior but I don't recall doing so.
04:33  * Bahhumbug shrugs
04:36 <@Bahhumbug> That being said.... I've been putting off a reboot now for a couple weeks.  I should probably address that at some point :(
04:48 < aestetix> RangerZ2: that's what you get for using windows
04:50 < RangerZ2> windows is a fine videogame-console OS
04:50 < RangerZ2> sucks for productivity
04:50 < RangerZ2> but ehh
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04:58 <@Bahhumbug> I actually find the that reversed by my usage.  Linux "desktops" are shit; I can get much, much more done from a win7 desktop than any piece of shit linux "desktop" I've yet seen.
05:01 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: http://www.wowhead.com/item=88802 Only 1,000g.
05:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Foxicopter Controller - Item - World of Warcraft (at www.wowhead.com)
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05:38 < RangerZ> http://youtu.be/qciSGDXCnN0?t=33m23s Praxis has some trolls working for them... LOL
05:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Civilization: Beyond Earth - Theyre Not Barbarians! - YouTube (at youtu.be)
05:38 < RangerZ> just have to watch for like 15 seconds, lol
07:35 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:37 <@Bahhumbug> Dolemite: If you've not yet seen it: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1232123
07:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: POODLE: SSLv3.0 vulnerability (CVE-2014-3566) - Red Hat Customer Portal (at access.redhat.com)
07:37 <@Bahhumbug> And https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/10/14/poodle.html
07:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: ImperialViolet - POODLE attacks on SSLv3 (at www.imperialviolet.org)
07:38 <@Bahhumbug> Not sure what you're all running there but if you have v3 in active use anywhere you may want to make sure the appropriate parties are aware.
07:39 <@Dolemite> Hahahaha, I like the acronym
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08:32 <@Dolemite> Well, now.  I guess this is what happens when you can't afford to go to a furry convention...
08:32 <@Dolemite> http://www.wfla.com/story/26786806/cops-man-masturbated-with-stuffed-animal-at-walmart-in-brooksville
08:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cops: Man masturbated with stuffed animal at Walmart in Brooksvi - WFLA News Channel 8 (at www.wfla.com)
08:46 <@Bahhumbug> ...
08:58 <@Dolemite> I was both surprised and relieved that the picture was not of NotLarry
08:59 <@Bahhumbug> haha
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09:46 <@Mirage_> lol..Sean Johnson.  Too bad it wasn't in Nashville and involving that ass at ITS
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09:48 <@Mirage> hehe..and linked from that one:  http://www.wfla.com/story/25752898/man-accused-of-having-sex-with-pool-float-again
09:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: Man accused of having sex with pool float, again - WFLA News Channel 8 (at www.wfla.com)
09:48 <@Mirage> Note the shirt in his mugshot
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10:06 <@Dickie> Victimless crime!
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10:51 < Synx|awy> ok well, i wonder if i'll have a job come end of day
10:51 <@Dolemite> how so?
10:52 < Synx|awy> i just lost my mind talking to one of our professional services guys, i yelled into the phone that the sales engineering on this deal is a fucking no talant assclown and should be fired on the spot, that he was a fucking idiot and i was tired of cleaning up his fucked up sales
10:52 < Synx|awy> as it turns out that SE was standing right next to him
10:52 < Synx|awy> and that SE happend to be the DIRECTOR of SEs
10:53 < Synx|awy> at least i feel better now
10:53 <@Dolemite> oops
10:53 <@Evilpig> ouch
10:55 <@Evilpig> haha family members claim he has mental issues.  really? ya think?!
11:01 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: as good as it looks you can't entice me.  I've broken it's hold on me
11:04 <@Bahhumbug> Synx|awy: Props for not starting on the bottom and working your way up to the top of the sludge heap.
11:36 < Synx|awy> ya, i call it like i see it
11:36 < Synx|awy> and this guy should not be working here
11:39 <@shapr> good morning?
11:43 < Synx|awy> meh
11:49 <@Bahhumbug> Synx|awy: If I were in your shoes I wouldn't wait until the end of the day to find out my fate.  Waiting sucks.  Bring it up to someone that matters and ask what's going ot happen.
11:51 <@Mirage> For example, talk to your manager about it.
11:53 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed.  If nothing else you're getting ahead of it.
11:53 <@Bahhumbug> Additionally it sounds like you have valid concerns about his abilities as an SE and if that's the case it's an issue for the company as a whole.
11:54 <@Bahhumbug> (At least valid in your eyes)
11:54 <@Mirage> So long as you didn't make an empty threat to potentially hit a pregnant women, you probably don't have to worry about HR issues.
11:54 <@Bahhumbug> I don't see cause here for termination.
11:55 <@Bahhumbug> But that's so dependent on the state that company is based out of and stuff that *shrug*
12:01 < Synx|awy> company is run by all sales
12:01 < Synx|awy> but nothing is going to happen
12:01 < Synx|awy> i am their most valuable PS guy right now
12:01 <@shapr> PostScript?
12:01 < Synx|awy> not trying to toot my own horn but its true
12:01 < Synx|awy> professional services
12:01 < Synx|awy> what this does mean, is that this job is causing me undue stress and anxiety
12:02 < Synx|awy> if i can figure out how to stop working 12-14hour days im going to polish up my resume and try and move on to something more healthy for me
12:02 <@Bahhumbug> Ohh, for fucks sake...
12:02 <@Bahhumbug> http://poodlebleed.com/
12:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: Poodlebleed Bug - CVE-2014-3566 (at poodlebleed.com)
12:05 <@brimstone> aww
12:05 <@brimstone> i was hoping for Facemelt
12:45 < RangerZ> Synx|awy: my suggestion is to put your resume on google drive or something
12:46 < RangerZ> and then start pecking away at it whenever you have time
12:46 < RangerZ> also, to use a known resume template
12:46 < RangerZ> and to bribe the people you give your resume to
12:46 < RangerZ> lol
12:47 < Synx|awy> actually ive got a buddy that has offered to hand in person my resume to his CEO
12:47 < Synx|awy> i just need to fix it up
12:47 < Synx|awy> its still all military shit from before i started working here
12:49 < RangerZ> if I hadn't been doing interviews and resume evaluations before going to college, i would have thought the shit they were saying in classes there was false about how you have less than 15 seconds for a reviewer to decide if they like your resume or not
12:51 < Synx|awy> ya
12:58 <@Dolemite> Synx|awy: What type of job do you do/want to do?
13:00 <@Dolemite> ORNL has several position open at the moment
13:00 <@Mirage> Just plain POODLE wasn't funny enough?  I do like the logo..though it needs a body and tire tracks
13:00 <@Evilpig> ^
13:04 < RangerZ> perhaps a halloween themed one
13:04 < RangerZ> with pumpkins and spice, and everything not so nice
13:08 <@NotLarry> My supervisor setup a group email account a month ago, put me on it, and now, today I find out it exists.  WTF?
13:09 <@Evilpig> what is this magic group email account for?
13:09 <@Mirage> who is the supervisor?  sounds like the kind of half-ass shit Hogan would do.
13:13 < RangerZ> Mirage: hogan can setup a group email on his own?
13:13 < RangerZ> thats pretty advanced from what I've heard about him
13:15  * shapr hops randomly
13:15 <@Evilpig> my dad's horses.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/opdh7xz6bgmtcx5/2014-10-15%2009.48.03.jpg?dl=0
13:17 <@Mirage> Keep that guy from Wal-Mart away from them.
13:22 < aestetix> wow everyone is mad
13:22 < aestetix> gamergate has gone insane
13:22 <@Mirage> RangerZ: in google, how hard can it be?  those tools are made to be consumed by the masses
13:23 < aestetix> so question about this Anite S stuff
13:24 < aestetix> If there was reasonable suspicion of an actual threat, why didn't the police take action?
13:25 < aestetix> So either she's overreacting and causing drama, or the police have fucked up.
13:25 < RangerZ> b/c it wasn't a reasonable threat
13:25 < RangerZ> someone doxed her
13:25 < RangerZ> then someone else said they were going to kill her in a tweet or something
13:25 < RangerZ> it wasn't a legit threat
13:25 < RangerZ> the problem has been the doxing
13:26 < aestetix> So rather than depending on trained professionals who know what they are doing
13:26 < aestetix> She decided to take matters into her own hands and caused drama in the process?
13:26 < RangerZ> no
13:26 < RangerZ> she caused what she wanted, sympathy
13:27 < aestetix> So wait
13:27 < RangerZ> she's much better at manipulating other's opinion of her than the loose group of "gamer gate" people are
13:27 < RangerZ> she knows that if she gets a single gamer to hate on her, she can use that for her own benefit
13:27 < aestetix> I hear lots of stuff about how these 4chan people are pathetic, live in their moms basements, and are whiney
13:27 < aestetix> But then I hear about how they have guns and are willing to come to a public event and commit murder?
13:28 < aestetix> Does not compute.
13:28 <@oddball> Oh... and she shit her pants when she found out that there's no law against carrying guns on campus in Utah.
13:28 < RangerZ> she's using a classic means of political murder, she's saying that single people from a demographic are representative of the whole
13:28 < aestetix> oddball: well I imagine the law forbids carrying a gun without a permit
13:29 <@oddball> aestetix: correct.
13:29 < aestetix> And everyone who has a permit had to go through a background check, right?
13:29 < aestetix> Which among other things, determines sane mental health conditions?
13:30 < RangerZ> aestetix: stop trying to troll
13:30 < aestetix> I'm not.
13:30 <@oddball> Well, the background check checks to make sure that you haven't had issues in the past.
13:30 < RangerZ> mental health can't be checked
13:30 < aestetix> Ok.
13:30 <@oddball> So... as long as you haven't been committed...
13:30 < aestetix> RangerZ: I mean in general terms. Has someone been committed?
13:31 < aestetix> lol
13:31 <@Dolemite> Yeah, it will only flag on previously diagnosed conditions which required legal intervention
13:31 <@oddball> If someone has been committed, they can't legally own a firearm, much less carry one.
13:31 < aestetix> Right.
13:31 <@Dolemite> So Bertney probably can't get a gun because her Daddy still has to tell her what to do
13:31 < aestetix> So the people who are at the highest risk of doing something harmful to her..... can't get a gun to begin with.
13:32 <@Dolemite> Well, they can't legally get a gun
13:32 <@Dolemite> Because, you know, making pot illegal pretty much made it impossible for people to get
13:33 < aestetix> I'm just trying to understand if there is an actual threat here.
13:33 < aestetix> But it sounds like giving her the benefit of the doubt is not logical.
13:33 < RangerZ> aestetix: it doesn't matter if there is or not
13:33 <@oddball> I've seen some folks question whether she's actually recieved credible threats, or if these threats are from the standard trolls.
13:33 < RangerZ> aestetix: you can't use your own sense of logic, thats the point
13:34 < RangerZ> if she blew it off, it wouldn't work as well for her socially
13:34 < RangerZ> so she isn't going to
13:34 <@oddball> Right... her declaring that she's been getting death threats over this shit has been doing wonders for her publicity wise.
13:35 <@oddball> Hell, I'm pretty sure this Gamergate shit would have blown over a long time ago if she hadn't been doing so.
13:36 <@NotLarry> Mirage: Titus
13:37 < RangerZ> aestetix: she, and a couple of the other people in the indie game scene in San Fran, are MUCH better a social media management/manipulation
13:37 < RangerZ> thats the short story of this entire thing
13:38 < RangerZ> b/c they have been tap dancing around the "anon-like group of gamer-gate supporters"
13:38 < RangerZ> or whatever you wanna call them
13:39 < RangerZ> its a branding issue,and they literally have people with branding degrees/PR jobs as friends
13:39 <@oddball> And given that they're women in the video gaming industry, I'm not suprised at all if they get death/rape threats on a regular basis.  Because... well... there's a significant percentage of avid gamers that are, in fact, scum.
13:40 < RangerZ> plus, its a matter of controlling a dozen or two dozen people's comments who all have a similar group think already (so no 'overt' 'control' is needed to align their thoughts/actions) so they all appear as a united front of 'good people'
13:40 < RangerZ> its OWS mk4 or w/e
13:41 < aestetix> So this is taking advantage of the fact that this blogging crap has replaced actual journalism in many places
13:42 < RangerZ> thats a small part of it
13:43 < RangerZ> its actually just a simple "its easy to discredit a large group of people by saying a single person's actions are indicative of the group as a whole"
13:43 < RangerZ> thats why the non-violence of the moral mondays in NC are working , b/c they aren't letting violent people into it
13:44 < RangerZ> same with civil rights protestors in the south in the 60
13:44 < RangerZ> s
13:44 < RangerZ> sure you CAN have people who are violent who agree with you, etc... but you can't let them be 'associated with you'
13:44 < RangerZ> but most people don't understand these basic political machievellian concepts
13:45 < RangerZ> its why superPACs have so much pwoer
13:45 < RangerZ> you can say whatever you want, and not have it tied to you
13:46 <@oddball> Of course, there's also the bit that this woman is trying to act shocked that a percentage of a comunnity she attacked is pissed at her.
13:46 < RangerZ> i've been trying to stay away from the 'topic' she is covering , in my analysis of it
13:46 < RangerZ> but yes
13:47 < aestetix>  I still question how many of the games she has reviewed she actually plays
13:47 < RangerZ> none
13:47 < RangerZ> there is proof that the videos she showed in her clips were  taken from popular streamers' channels
13:47 < RangerZ> and she's stated she isn't a gamer before
13:48 < RangerZ> b/c "she doesn't like to shoot people's heads off"
13:48 < RangerZ> b/c.... "gamers" only play FPSs
13:48 < RangerZ> thats why a lot of people don't like her
13:49 < RangerZ> its the "preaching from on high" without her actually knowing what she's talking about
13:49 < RangerZ> b/c that ignores EVERY other genre of gaming
13:50 < RangerZ> also, she has obvious confirmation bias
13:51 < RangerZ> b/c she doesn't show any of the pro-feminism content from video games
13:52 < RangerZ> the new laura croft tomb raider game, The Last of Us's female lead, who happens to be gay in the expansion, and holds meaningful conversations with her partner, that there are games like portal, that have a female lead without ever even mentioning it
13:53 <@brimstone> and Metroid
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13:54 <@Evilpig> wait wait wait. what are you trying to say about samus?  he's a she?  no way man, no way.
13:54 < RangerZ> or games that have a female lead, but try to not make much of it like Remember Me
13:55 <@Evilpig> next you're gonna tell me that Sheik is a chick too and notsome bad ass masked dude
13:55 < RangerZ> Evilpig: nah, he was joking
13:55 <@brimstone> Evilpig: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samus_Aran#Reception
13:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Samus Aran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
13:55 < RangerZ> see, a guy with long hair in a pony tail
13:55 < RangerZ> nothing to see there
13:56 <@Evilpig> brimstone: someone clearly is defacing wikipedia again
13:56 <@Evilpig> and since you missed the other reference.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Zelda#Sheik
13:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Princess Zelda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
13:58 < RangerZ> Evilpig: sarkesian actually says thats an example of where she was thrown back into the 'damsel in distress' role
13:58 < RangerZ> b/c her dad didn't want her fighting
13:58 < RangerZ> despite the fact that she helps you beat the final boss
13:58 < RangerZ> basically _nothing_ is good enough
13:59 < RangerZ> and thats my problem with her video
13:59 < RangerZ> i'd like her to say what she DOES want
13:59 < RangerZ> instead of all negative
13:59 < aestetix> I can't help but think there is a longstanding social relationship between men and woman
13:59 < aestetix> Like the joke that behind every great man is a woman who tells him what to do
14:00 <@Mirage> OpenDCIM using SNMP to identify devices?
14:00 < RangerZ> Mirage: i asked the same question a while ago
14:00 < RangerZ> and they both started crying
14:00 < RangerZ> it might be a sore wound
14:00 < RangerZ> lol
14:00 <@Mirage> I just found a doc that has some good info.. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fdam%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fnet_mgmt%2Fprime%2Fcollaboration_manager%2F1-1%2Fsupported%2Fdevices_alarms%2Fdevices.xls&ei=PLU-VIKKDsGryATm74HYCg&usg=AFQjCNHAxoSp8FUwCurmvKT7hgDylUS54g&bvm=bv.77412846,d.aWw
14:01 <@Mirage> bah, not what i wanted
14:01 < RangerZ> actually i asked about REST API for interacting with the system, but still, they both grumbled about how they wanted to add it, lol
14:01 <@Evilpig> Mirage: not to identify
14:01 <@Evilpig> it uses a little for polling info
14:02 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: actually I think we both said you can add it, it's on the list of shit that needs to be done
14:04 <@Bahhumbug> Hahahaha "an additional ten NLUG members" hahaha.  Like there _are_ 10 NLUG members.  Dru's funny.
14:07 < RangerZ> i dunno, they get a bigger turnout than PN meetings
14:07 < RangerZ> well nashville 2600 meetings
14:07 < RangerZ> but thats not saying much
14:11 < aestetix> So who's going to phreaknic
14:11 < RangerZ> ISIS is having a halloween party
14:11 < RangerZ> so thats more interesing
14:12 < RangerZ> would it be in bad taste to go as an executioner with a severed head?
14:12 < RangerZ> (I joke, but apparently severed heads are NOT the 'in' thing this year at haunted houses/etc, and have seen a sharp decline in being bought/etc)
14:13 < RangerZ> for obvious reasons
14:15 < aestetix> http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/11/understanding-stalin/380786/?single_page=true
14:19 < aestetix> I may have to get that book
14:24 < aestetix> http://www.businessinsider.com/us-chemical-weapons-iraq-2014-10
14:34 < RangerZ> ugh..
14:34 < RangerZ> i have to go into work today
14:35 < aestetix> poor baby
14:35 < aestetix> is it raining too hard?
14:35 < RangerZ> i hate having to work multiple days in a row
14:35 < RangerZ> i much prefer to just work from home
14:35  * Bahhumbug hands RangerZ a tissue
14:36 < RangerZ> nah, its only sprinkling right now
14:36 < RangerZ> we have a cell that just won't leave the area
14:36 < RangerZ> probably going to just wear itself out, and die out
14:36 < RangerZ> http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/us-2014-2015-winter-forecast/35422753
14:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: US Winter Forecast: Cold, Snow to Seize Northeast; Wintry Blasts to Slick South (at www.accuweather.com)
14:36 <@Bahhumbug> You hope.
14:36 < RangerZ> TN - ice threat
14:36 <@Bahhumbug> Uh, what?
14:37 < RangerZ> for this upcoming winter
14:37 < aestetix> We have a cell here too
14:37 <@Bahhumbug> Believe it when I see it.
14:37 < aestetix> It's unending sun.
14:37 < RangerZ> what about the morning mist in berkeley?
14:38 < RangerZ> doesn't that help collect water?
14:38 < aestetix> You might be confused. That's the smug cloud
14:38 < RangerZ> i know it fucking stuck to me every day walking to the EECS building
14:38 < RangerZ> no no
14:38 < RangerZ> the smug was in the afternoon
14:38 < aestetix> but in any case
14:39 < RangerZ> when everyone was on their 'mid afternoon 15$ coffee break
14:39 < aestetix> the mist has not happened for some time
14:39 < RangerZ> ahh
14:39 <@Mirage> Finally got around to cleaning up that nasty google link from earlier:  http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/net_mgmt/prime/collaboration_manager/1-1/supported/devices_alarms/devices.xls
14:39 < aestetix> It's usually cold here in the summer too.
14:39 < aestetix> No more.
14:40 <@Mirage> It's a spreadsheet mapping systemObjectID OIDs with hardware and manufacturer
14:41 <@Mirage> ifsysObjectID = '1.3.6.1.2.1.1.2'
14:43 < RangerZ> then die?
14:43 < RangerZ> i really hope thats an option
14:43 < RangerZ> lol
14:46 < aestetix> penis'
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15:06 <@Mirage> Evilpig: shadow404@wilpig.org?!
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15:17 <@Shadow404> aye
15:17 <@Shadow404> i haz a shell account
15:18 <@Shadow404> he also host snsweather.com
15:18 <@Shadow404> what of it?
15:19 <@oddball> Clearly, you're an evil traitor that wishes nothing but to bring down PN!  Wait 'till Fearless Leader hears of your trechory!
15:19 <@Shadow404> sweet, then i can laugh in the dear popes feeble face
15:20  * shapr hugs Shadow404
15:20  * shapr hugs klixa 
15:20 <@Shadow404> diaf shapr
15:21 <@klixa> hey Shadow404
15:21 <@klixa> err
15:21 <@klixa> hey shapr
15:21 <@shapr> HI KLIXA!
15:21 <@Shadow404> :(
15:21 <@shapr> HI SHADOW404!
15:21 <@klixa> hi Shadow404
15:21 <@klixa> this time it was on purpose :P
15:21 <@Shadow404> heh
15:23 <@klixa> i want a peanut butter and raspberry preserves sandwhich
15:26 < RangerZ> \
15:26 < RangerZ> ugh
15:26 <@Shadow404> well Mirage?
15:27 <@shapr> klixa: I want a cashew butter sandwich
15:27 < RangerZ> klixa: I can make you a BP& honey sandwich if you like
15:27 <@klixa> bp?
15:27 < RangerZ> PB*
15:27 <@klixa> oh
15:27 <@klixa> nah, the idea of honey makes me wanna vomit
15:28 <@klixa> most food makes me sick atm...i hate almost all food
15:28 <@shapr> klixa: got a cold?
15:28 <@klixa> no, im pregnant again
15:28 <@shapr> oh!
15:29 <@Shadow404> aww, just tell me it wasnt someone from this channel
15:29 <@klixa> lol, no
15:29 <@Shadow404> past or present
15:31 < RangerZ> please tell me you won't let you child on the internet ever
15:31 < RangerZ> thats the worst thing you could do to them
15:31 < RangerZ> lol
15:32 <@Shadow404> true dat
15:32 < RangerZ> part of me hopes I never have a kid
15:33 <@klixa> kids are great
15:33 < RangerZ> b/c I'd hate to have to install NSA level backdoors into my child's phone/etc and tell them that I'm recording/monitoring everything they ever do
15:33 <@klixa> my ther kid wil be 1 soon...on halloween
15:33 <@klixa> i will have no issues telling my children i am reading their email
15:33 < RangerZ> that way they get used to the idea of big brother, and make them well adjusted citizens of the new world order
15:33 < RangerZ> alex jones was warning me all about it
15:33 < RangerZ> ;) lol
15:36 <@Shadow404> nice
15:36 <@klixa> alex jones is a nutjob
15:36 <@klixa> tho he is very entertaining sometimes
15:37 <@klixa> we're all gonna die from ebola anyway...there will be no new wrld order
15:38 <@Shadow404> only those with natural immunity or the super rich
15:39 < RangerZ> nah
15:40 < RangerZ> you just need saline
15:40 < RangerZ> and maybe an antibiotic to fight any secondary infections
15:40 < RangerZ> its actually not that hard to fight...if you seek medical attention early, and are moderately well off nutritionally
15:40 < RangerZ> zinc in particular
15:41 <@Shadow404> ah, ok
15:42 <@klixa> RangerZ: ok, so you are saying ebola is no big deal?
15:42 < RangerZ> its basically a short term accelerated form of aids, that breaks down the lining of the blood vessels
15:42 < RangerZ> so as long as you keep yourself hydrated, and healthy otherwise, the chance to survive is quite high
15:43 < RangerZ> problem is the area ebola normally hits, they don't seek help immediately, and are generally malnutrtioned
15:43 < RangerZ> klixa: in the USA, ebola isn't a big threat
15:43 <@klixa> RangerZ: im not saying it is, i predict there will be a few min outbreaks like in dallas
15:43 <@klixa> but i think its gonna wipe out quite a few people in africa
15:43 < RangerZ> sadly, yes
15:44 <@klixa> however, as virus itself... the hemmoraging can be dangerous
15:44 <@klixa> but i know what you mean about hydration, etc...cause like parvo...it kills most dogs, but it does so by dehrdation
15:44 <@klixa> i caught it early in my dog, and gave her iv's, etc and she was fine
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16:22 < RangerZ> the only person brought to the US and died was the guy who didn't get treatment quickly
16:22 < RangerZ> b/c of lack of caring about black foreigners in TX
16:22 < RangerZ> i mean...
16:24 <@klixa> yeah, it was all racism
16:24 <@Dagmar>  No, because of the lying to customs
16:24 <@klixa> they all put thmselves at risk too, to spite that black man
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> <RangerZ> part of me hopes I never have a kid
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> That's easily solved.  Just have someone kick you in the nuts about 20 times in a row.
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16:38 < aestetix> klixa: this is congrats, right?
16:39 < aestetix> One of the signs you're getting older: response to a pregnancy turns from "oh fuck" to "congrats"
16:39 <@klixa> im happy about it if thats what you are asking aestetix
16:39 < aestetix> yes
16:39 <@klixa> lol @oh fuck to congrats
16:42 < aestetix> klixa: you know it's true
16:43 < aestetix> I know so many people who "cleaned up" because they got someone pregnant
16:43 <@klixa> i had a stepchild at age 21...i had a very small "oh fuck" wndow n my life
16:44 < aestetix> also the words "well, my life is over now"
16:45 <@Mirage> aestetix: like NL?
16:45 < aestetix> NL?
16:45 < aestetix> oh hahaha
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17:30 < aestetix> http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/10/death-threat-forces-cancellation-of-sarkeesian-university-speech/
17:30 < aestetix> enjoy
17:39 < aestetix> wouldn't it be great if Anita had sent that letter to herself
17:47 < aestetix> http://www.newstatesman.com/future-proof/2014/10/ultimate-weapon-against-gamergate-time-wasters-1960s-chat-bot-wastes-their-time
17:48 < aestetix> that is fucking hilarious
17:51 <@Dagmar> The article itself is crap
17:51 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%40ElizaRBarr
17:51 < aestetix> just watch that
17:52 < aestetix> it's funny to see how many people vent at the bot
17:52 < aestetix> I am laughing really hard
17:52 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/Snarkyname/status/522495492236660736
17:52 < aestetix> for example
17:55 < aestetix> I wonder if it's possible to make a tumblrbot like this
17:57 <@oddball> aestetix: The more I read about it, the more I think that she's a self-important blow hard.
17:57 <@rattle> That is interesting.  Please continue.
17:57 < aestetix> oddball: Anita S, or the bot? :p
17:57 <@oddball> Anita S
17:58 < aestetix> man it is hilarious watching all these people get angry at the bot and then realize they got duped
17:58 <@rattle> Tell me more about that.
17:58 < aestetix> rattle: if you want, I can tell you about some of Corydon's sexual encounters
17:59 <@rattle> Perhaps your plans have something to do with this.
17:59 <@oddball> Of course, part of it is that she apparently shit her pants when she found out that carry permit holders would be able to legally carry while listening to her.
17:59 < aestetix> There was the time with the black guy, the guy with the pig, or the time with the trash cans.
18:00 < aestetix> rattle: which would you like to hear about?
18:00 <@rattle> I am sorry to hear that you are sad.
18:02 < aestetix> rattle: do you want to hear stories about the inside of Corydon's butt?
18:02 < aestetix> There is one story involving a lobster
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18:02 < aestetix> I guess not
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18:04 <@Dagmar> rattle: We let him stay because he's colorful, not because he's smart
18:04 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I thought he was blackmailing corydon
18:05 < RangerZ> but ehh
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18:06 < aestetix> What about the physics accident that shrank jonnyx to 2 inches tall
18:06 <@Dagmar> Can it be encouraged to happen 5-6 more times?
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18:14 <@Dagmar> Darned users
18:14 <@Dagmar> There's a new dropline user who's operating _way_ out of his depth
18:15 <@Dagmar> He tried to set a couple of config variables that both ultimately get passed to -mtune and -mcpu to 'corei7'
18:15 < Synx|awy> Dolemite: tech i guess, i work in VoIP right now, i like it, really i want a job thats work from home and tech sector, netsec, voip, development
18:15 <@Dagmar> Oh... as well as -march
18:15 <@Dagmar> ...where it'll _never_ be the correct value
18:16 < Synx|awy> Dolemite: i do VoIP solutions testing, so i have a lot of experience with SIP, H.323, SKINNY, but no certs and no Avaya or Genesys or Cisco actual PBX config work
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18:54 <@eryc> i like how oddball fell for the eliza bot treatment
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19:11 <@Dagmar> Bout time to piss off some smurfs
19:21 <@Dagmar> I like making a few fields at 4pm so they feel like they've accomplished something by trying to smash them on the way home...
19:21 <@Dagmar> ...and then at 6-7pm going back out and making even larger fields.
19:23 < RangerZ> god... i fucking _HATE_ random IMs on skype, etc for 'cam girls', etc
19:24 < RangerZ> its either a fucking bot, or someone bored trying to make a few cents off of a ref. link
19:24 < RangerZ> if I wanted to watch fucking porn, i wouldn't have to _pay_ for it
19:26 < RangerZ> http://gizmodo.com/with-standalone-hbo-how-much-will-it-cost-to-cut-the-c-1646653151 7$ for HBO without cable
19:27 < RangerZ> cable TV is dead
19:28 <@Bahhumbug> Hardly.
19:29 < RangerZ> i dunno... thats a tipping point
19:29 < RangerZ> sure people still pay for AOL access
19:30 < RangerZ> when they have broadband
19:30 < RangerZ> so 'cable' will exist at least for another 50 years
19:32 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iNed1Kog80 ok... why the fuck is he 'appologizing' ?
19:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: U2 Apologizes for Free Album on iTunes - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
19:32 <@Dagmar> Becuase people got it whether they wanted it or not
19:32 < RangerZ> wtf
19:32 <@Dagmar> ...and you could _not_ delete it.
19:32 < RangerZ> ohh
19:32 < RangerZ> ok
19:32 < RangerZ> then yes
19:32 < RangerZ> fuck that
19:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah, some folks wrote a special tool _just_ to delete it from people's collections.
19:32 <@Dagmar> Like FairPlay but in reverse.
19:32 <@Dagmar> heheh
19:32 < RangerZ> hehe
19:33 < RangerZ> thats funny though
19:33 < RangerZ> honeslty
19:33 <@Dagmar> Oh yes
19:33 <@Dagmar> Some of hte news articles at the time noted the irony of that
19:33 <@Dagmar> Originally U2 had been all butt-hurt because of people using software to crack the DRM and pirate their stuff
19:34 <@Dagmar> Now things have come full-circle and people are using illicit software to get U2 out of their library
19:34 <@NotLarry> Terry Nielsen <coterryn@gmail.com>
19:34 <@NotLarry> oops
19:41 < RangerZ> next metallica will be promoting a P2P network
19:42 <@Dagmar> http://www.fark.com/comments/560663/Metallica-floods-P2P-networks-with-John-Denver-songs-disguised-as-tracks-from-St-Anger
19:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: FARK.com: (560663) Metallica floods P2P networks with John Denver songs disguised as tracks from St. Anger (at www.fark.com)
19:42 <@Dagmar> =D
19:43 < RangerZ> fuck you
19:43 < RangerZ> just fuck you
19:43 <@Dagmar> lol
19:44 < RangerZ> but yeah, you know what i meant
19:46 < RangerZ> holy hell... people pay 15~20$/month for HBO?
19:46 < RangerZ> wow...
19:47 <@Dagmar> Lukcy people do
19:49 < RangerZ> ?
19:50 < RangerZ> others pay more?
19:57 <@Dagmar> Yep.
19:57 <@Dagmar> If you have a very limited package, adding HBO cossts you about three times that
20:01 < RangerZ> wow...
20:01 < RangerZ> fuck that nonsense
20:02 < RangerZ> i think i got HBO in the starter package I had
20:03 < RangerZ> 99$/mo for  a year or something
20:03 < RangerZ> then went up to 160$/mo or something , so *yes, hello, I'd like to cancel everything but internet*
20:07 <@Dagmar> I don't blame you in the least
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20:10 < RangerZ1> so I hope this paper describing SaaS Simulation as a Service gets accepted
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20:13 < RangerZ1> SIMaaS*
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20:43 < aestetix>  roses are red, violets are blue, chocolate has the same color as poo
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21:08 <@Dagmar> No... it's "Roses are red, violets are blue.... Guess what, my bed, has room for two!"
21:09 < aestetix> roses are red, violets are pink, I was raised german so our sex might stink
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22:27 < RangerZ> why... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhjFarhm2Jo
22:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Allowed To Bring Guns To Speeches You Disagree With - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:27 < RangerZ> why does it take Cenk to fucking reasonable
22:27 < RangerZ> about sarkesian and gamergate nonsense
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22:29 <@Dagmar> Because too many journalists are actually up to their eyeballs in the bullshit is why
22:30 <@Dagmar> This is why we get hate-filled straw man after straw man from the "journalists".
22:32 < RangerZ> i mean... seriously I don't think he's always right or anything, but god damn it... he's the only one who speaks up against media bullshit and the corruption in politics
22:33 < RangerZ> which is why i have their channel on rss , but its nuggest like this that are like ... wtf... why can't other media do this too
22:35 < aestetix> Hmm.
22:35 < aestetix> The one issue I have with that guy's comments
22:35 < aestetix> Is he assumes that the threat is credible and valid
22:36 < aestetix> I mean, what would stop a group from making similar "threats" for every speech they wanted to see silenced
22:39 < RangerZ> god i hope nothing
22:39 < RangerZ> we need less debate in this country
22:39 < RangerZ> thats all i know
22:39 < aestetix> we need more debate, we need less theater that parades as debate
22:39 < RangerZ> imagine if only tech-savy people could hold debates
22:39 < RangerZ> hehe
22:39 < aestetix> that would not be any better
22:41 < RangerZ> yes yes it would be, b/c our first criteria would be 'i agree to this EULA that I agree science is fact based, and religion isn't , and if i say otherwise publicly within the next 180 days, that i'll pay the event organizers $5,000.00.'
22:42 < RangerZ> just imagine the head-explosions you could cause by people seeing that
22:42 < aestetix> RangerZ: you should debate crazypants at PhreakNIC about the code of conduct
22:42 < RangerZ> nah, thats no fun
22:42 < RangerZ> i'd rather argue her point
22:42 < RangerZ> more 'fun'-wise though
22:43 < RangerZ> if we don't have a women's only debate on rape, how are we going ot teach men how to respect women?
22:43 < RangerZ> and other logical fallacies like that, that she was trying to spout off
22:43 < RangerZ> a 'women only' talk about how to avoid stalkers on and offline
22:44 < RangerZ> my first question: well, i think thats stupid, but.... how are you going to check? are we going to have genital inspectors? or is self-indentifing as female alright? or are you anti-trans?
22:44 < RangerZ> yeah.... I don't think she liked that
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22:46 < RangerZ> aestetix: if she even HINTED at checking for women only, i was going to nominate you
22:46 < aestetix> uh
22:46 < RangerZ> her brain would have exploded right then and there, people would have thought she had ebola
22:46 < aestetix> she actually said that?
22:47 < RangerZ> ohh yes, this is the _main_ reason for the split in nashville 2600
22:47 <@Dagmar> How are we supposed to teach men to not rape?
22:47 < RangerZ> b/c half the room called out her BS
22:47 < aestetix> I thought she just wanted the CoC
22:47 <@Dagmar> Probably the way we're doing now.
22:47 < aestetix> Dagmar: are you raping anyone right now?
22:47 <@Dagmar> Should we have a bunch of conferences and support groups to teach men to not rob banks as well?
22:47 <@Dagmar> Men already _know_ to _not rape_
22:47 < RangerZ> no, they really don't
22:47 < RangerZ> at least some
22:47 <@Dagmar> The people who do it anyway are called "criminals"
22:48 < RangerZ> but a hacker/comic/phreak/gamer/etc-con is NOT the place you do this
22:48 < RangerZ> its in middleschool
22:48 < RangerZ> and HS
22:48 < RangerZ> and college
22:48 <@Dagmar> It's not an "awareness" issue.  It's a "we want our own soapbox" issue
22:48 < aestetix> what happend to that one conference that was gonna happen
22:48 < aestetix> consentcon or something, I can't remember
22:48 < aestetix> I think it was even in nashville
22:49 <@Dagmar> I don't think the discussion has any place at a hacker 'con unless someone's developing fusion-powered rapebots.
22:49 < RangerZ> no idea what you're even talking about
22:49 < RangerZ> mind you... the idea of how to reduce your public exposure to doxing
22:49 < RangerZ> thats fine
22:49 < RangerZ> but NO reason to limit it to females
22:49 <@Dagmar> Well, unless your agenda involves painting the issue as "all men are rapists" so none can be allowed to speak.
22:50 < RangerZ> at that point i feel insulted for females, b/c you're implying they are somehow weak enough to need their own space
22:50 < RangerZ> my mom would fucking slap her for that idea
22:52 <@Dagmar> As to why Cenk has to be the one to say this stuff, well... I suppose it probably has something to do with doing a bunch of cocaine and running his mouth on TV didn't work out very well for him
22:52 < aestetix> ugh I can't remember what it was called
22:55 < RangerZ> so MTSU got a 160million dollar science building
22:55 < RangerZ> and fucking TN's GOP gov said , "yeah.... not going to see that again"
22:55 < RangerZ> b/c we don't need investment in STEM or anything
22:55 < RangerZ> or higher ed
22:56 <@Dagmar> That's amusing because when I was there the library was in such a sad state that it was deplorable, and the Student Council decided they needed an even larger _playhouse_ than that
22:57 <@Dagmar> If Cenk had some balls, he'd actually admit that he's gotten death threats from people, and they're not to be taken seriously.
22:58 <@Dagmar> Expose yourself to enough people, and one of them's going to "threaten" to kill you, as surely as aestetix says "penis" and for rather similar reasons.
23:04 <@Dagmar> By the way, the only reason I didn't jump on https://www.drupal.org/SA-CORE-2014-005 is becuase I no longer give a fuck.
23:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: SA-CORE-2014-005 - Drupal core - SQL injection | Drupal.org (at www.drupal.org)
23:05 <@Dagmar> ...otherwise I'd have done a table drop on them yesterday
23:13 < aestetix> How sketchy is it for someone at a company to announce something about an employee, like a new contractual arrangement, before it has actually happened?
23:13 < aestetix> Like before all parties have agreed to it.
23:17 <@oddball> Really fucking sketchy?
23:17 < aestetix> Thank you.
23:18 < aestetix> Any chance it's illegal?
23:18 <@oddball> Probably not illegal.  Just a horrible business tactic.
23:18 < aestetix> Yep.
23:18 < aestetix> This just happened to me.
23:19 <@oddball> oh?
23:19 < aestetix> What the bossguy doesn't know is I am friends with a bunch of his cofounders.
23:19 < aestetix> And when I leave the company, I will be letting them all know what happened.
23:19 < aestetix> Not going to suggest they do anything per say. I just want to make sure they have information in case they have decisions to make down the road ;)
23:20 <@oddball> There is a possibility that they may be civilly liable if the announcement is detrimental to one of the parties, but...
23:20  * aestetix shrugs
23:20 < aestetix> defamation is enough for me :)
23:21 < aestetix> Although it's not really defamation, so much as information.
23:30 <@oddball> Yeah... you'd have to be able to proove that that information coming out actually harmed you.
23:32 < aestetix> I'm less interested in gaining anything, than hurting him
23:46 <@Dagmar> So kick him in the jimmy
23:46 <@SuMo_D> I think stalker ex is back... posing as a woman on okc... stalkers... wtf... don't they have better things to obsess about?
23:46 <@oddball> knee caps are a good selction too.
23:47 <@oddball> Remeber, 45 degree angle to really fuck the knee up.
23:47 <@Dagmar> What good would it do for him to pose as a women?
23:49 <@Dagmar> Are you looking for women on OKC?
23:50 <@SuMo_D> no
23:50 <@SuMo_D> I just have it up set as friends
23:50 <@SuMo_D> I set it up a long time ago and forgot about it
23:50 <@Dagmar> Oh so "she" sent you a friend request or something?
23:50 <@SuMo_D> yes
23:51 <@Dagmar> Make some shit up
23:51 <@Dagmar> If you're certain the person isn't genuine, let him think you've taken the bait.
23:51 <@Dagmar> Make up lurid tales about orgies with transgender post-humanists.
23:52 <@SuMo_D> last time I talked to them I just sent them this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpwA_ISeZqc
23:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: I Ejaculate Fire - Dethklok - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:52 <@Dagmar> Talk about your raging kleptomania
23:52 <@SuMo_D> over and over again
23:52 <@SuMo_D> until I blocked them
23:52 <@Dagmar> Also, you're a little curious as to what it would be like to kill a homeless person deliberately instead of accidentally.
23:53 <@SuMo_D> good plan
23:54 <@SuMo_D> so crazypants is going to have a woman only talk?
23:54 <@SuMo_D> so... what all 3 of them?
23:54 <@Dagmar> Get 'em good and wound up knowing if they go to the police, half the work of proving they're stalking you again is already done
23:55 <@Dagmar> Yeah and people wonder why I'm pretty sure I won't set foot in the place
23:55 <@SuMo_D> I heard from Zerominus earlier this week... he said he's not going
23:55 <@oddball> SuMo_D: Wait... seriously?
23:55 <@SuMo_D> yeah
23:56 <@oddball> jesus fuck
23:56 <@SuMo_D> I donno if CNwaV is or not, he said he was... but that was 2 months ago maybe? and he's kinda in and out
23:56 <@SuMo_D> he said he might be back on the channel again soon though
23:56 <@SuMo_D> Zerominus
23:57 <@SuMo_D> oddball why are you so surprised?
23:57 <@Evilpig> SuMo_D: if you talk to cnwav tell him to get his ass back in here. 
23:58 <@oddball> SuMo_D: I was hoping sanity and reason would win out.
23:58 <@Evilpig> oddball: nothing builds community togetherness like segregation and making special snowflakes feel unique
23:58 <@oddball> yep
23:58 <@Evilpig> but this isn't about community anymore
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