--- Log opened Mon Oct 13 00:00:01 2014 00:28 <@Dagmar> Flooding at Vandy? LOOOL 00:56 < RangerZ> student health center had a pipe burst... but it doesn't hurt aestetix's soul as much to say that 00:56 < RangerZ> lol 01:01 < aestetix> well 01:01 < aestetix> We might wind up getting rain in november 01:01 < aestetix> so that's at least something to look forward to 01:02 < aestetix> On the plus side we have a 20% chance of rain on tuesday 01:04 < aestetix> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/03/california-drought-fourth-year_n_5928818.html 01:04 < aestetix> sigh 01:04 <@Bahhumbug> You're welcome to come out and get some rain if you want it. 01:05 <@Bahhumbug> All you can transport back. 01:05 <@Bahhumbug> My fields are going to flood in the next couple of days if this shit doesn't stop - the ground is super saturated at the moment. 01:16 < aestetix> You know what I'm a big fan of? 01:16 < aestetix> Moderation. 01:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+m] by Bahhumbug 01:23 <@Bahhumbug> :D 01:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [-m] by Bahhumbug 01:23 < aestetix> vagian 01:37 <@Dagmar> Did you ever consider perhaps that the fates were punishing you for your misbehaviour? 01:38 <@Bahhumbug> It's a shame life doesn't work like that. Weev would be fertilizer at this point if it did. 01:40 <@Dagmar> It's not like he was picking on people. Those were iPad users. 01:40 <@Dagmar> _Appleites_ 01:44 <@Bahhumbug> Umm... he's been picking on people for many years. You know... the whole racist douchebag component? 01:44 <@Bahhumbug> I have a wood chipper out back with his name on it. 01:49 < aestetix> What misbehavior 01:50 <@Dagmar> You with the deliberately unpleasant questions 01:50 <@Bahhumbug> http://i.imgur.com/oiifnQh.gif 01:50 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: You're not that dimwitted to really ask that, are you? 01:52 < aestetix> Dagmar: Corydon is free to not answer them 01:52 <@Dagmar> ...and you could try not being a jackass. 01:52 <@Bahhumbug> You don't limit it to the cry baby. 01:52 <@Bahhumbug> You also ask inappropriate questions of others. 01:52 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: That GIF is wonderful 01:52 <@Bahhumbug> inorite 01:53 < aestetix> He said he was shameless 01:53 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: and when they ask me to stop, I do. 01:53 <@Dagmar> It needs audio. 01:53 <@Bahhumbug> Until you ask again. 01:53 <@Bahhumbug> You're a broken record, aestetix. 01:53 < aestetix> that gif is awesome 01:58 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: question you might know 02:55 <@Bahhumbug> I know nothing. 02:55 <@Bahhumbug> Quote me on that. 02:55 < aestetix> with LUKS.... when I create a new volume and format it.... the password I enter, is that the master password? 02:55 < aestetix> lol 02:55 <@Bahhumbug> I don't do LUKDS 02:55 < aestetix> oh 02:55 <@Bahhumbug> Err, LUKS 03:20 <@Dagmar> "master" password? 03:20 <@Dagmar> Unless you went out of your way to set up something fancy, it's the _only_ password. 03:20 <@Dagmar> LUKS is not some backdoored-by-default PKI stuff. 03:22 <@Dagmar> You've got like eight "slots" IIRC 03:24 <@Dagmar> Under the hood, afaik, they're jsut used to unencrypt the actual key 03:24 <@Dagmar> There's no PKi stuff in there where one key can become invalid and revoke others. They're all independent 03:26 <@Bahhumbug> Oh look. 03:26 <@Bahhumbug> More fucking rain inbound. 03:26 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: did you see my comment about vandy flooding? 03:26 * Bahhumbug kicks ma nature in the coochie. 03:27 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ1: Yep. 03:27 <@Bahhumbug> I'm more worried about here, however. 03:27 < RangerZ1> it was only the rec center with a burst pipe 03:27 <@Bahhumbug> Later today we're supposed to get nailed but good. 03:27 < RangerZ1> but still... a lot of rain = not good for mid TN 03:27 <@Bahhumbug> And local waterways are higher than I'd like. Including the one bordering my property. 03:28 < RangerZ1> do you have a french drain next to your house? 03:28 <@Bahhumbug> I have no idea what that is. 03:28 <@Bahhumbug> @google french drain 03:28 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: French drain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; How to Build a French Drain : Outdoors : Home & Garden Television: ; Installing French Drains for Yard Drainage - Landscaping - About.com: ; How to Install a French (2 more messages) 03:28 < RangerZ1> to run water away from the house/normally? .. b/c water 'can' run back up them somtimes 03:29 <@Bahhumbug> We have a septic system that runs into a leech field out in the field. 03:29 <@Bahhumbug> And yes, that can back up. 03:30 <@Bahhumbug> And, in fact, has. 03:30 <@Dagmar> ...and now you know. 03:30 < RangerZ1> basically think of a 100 ft long 6" PVC pipe, with 1/2" holes drilled all around it, and then you fill the hole you dig 1/2 way with 1" gravel, and then lay the pvc, then fill in the rest of the hole with 1in gravel 03:31 <@Bahhumbug> Standard clay septic sectional pipe. 03:31 < RangerZ1> it makes a really good water drainage system that will de-flood a yard 03:31 <@Bahhumbug> But same thing. 03:31 <@Bahhumbug> But it's got nothing to do with land drainage. 03:31 < RangerZ1> french drain is just for getting water away from the house/yard and putting the water downhill 03:31 < RangerZ1> nothing to do with septic, etc 03:32 <@Bahhumbug> I am surrounding on 3 side by farm fields. 03:32 <@Bahhumbug> And we're on the high point of the property. 03:32 <@Bahhumbug> So the house itself being flooded is a remote, at best, possibility. 03:32 <@Dagmar> Well, that's good news at least 03:32 < RangerZ1> ^that 03:32 <@Bahhumbug> The problem is the backflow into the house from the septic system. 03:32 <@Dagmar> If it floods, you won't have to worry about finding a place to go 03:32 <@Bahhumbug> If it floods I'm fucked in so many ways.. 03:33 <@Dagmar> Exactly. 03:33 <@Dagmar> My mom was worried about their home flooding one time 03:33 <@Bahhumbug> The fields have not been harvested yet :/ 03:33 <@Bahhumbug> That's going to be a bigger problem. 03:33 <@Dagmar> Somehow she forgot about the 150 foot hill at the end of the subdivision 03:34 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: i found my apt in june-ish of 2010... 03:34 < RangerZ1> on the map...its next to a creek 03:34 <@Dagmar> Like, if it flooded in our neighborhood, a great deal of Middle Tennessee would be deep, deep underwater 03:34 <@Dagmar> Oh holy shit 03:35 <@Dagmar> You better board up the windows and doors 03:35 < RangerZ1> google earth with the natgeo topology maps.... ohh look a 150ft cliff/hill behind the apartments, and between me and the creek... I'm fine 03:35 <@Bahhumbug> The creek bed next to the place here is a dry bed 99% of the year. I drove down there this afternoon... not quite so dry at the moment. 03:35 <@Dagmar> If those fields flood, the Corn Stalkers will be likely to flee right into your house 03:35 <@Dagmar> Murder everywhere! 03:35 <@Bahhumbug> haha 03:35 <@Bahhumbug> Murder and Mayhem for the win? 03:36 <@Bahhumbug> Speaking of Murder and Mayhem... 03:36 <@Dagmar> I know now that I just need to watch the river 03:36 * Bahhumbug watches Homeland. 03:36 <@Dagmar> We still got a good 40 feet 03:38 <@Dagmar> I should probably ring up my brother tomorrow and give him the good news. :) 03:38 <@Dagmar> He's in SF at the moment 03:38 < RangerZ1> wilbur is your brother? 03:38 < RangerZ1> hehe 03:38 <@Dagmar> Nope 03:39 <@Dagmar> I thought Wilbur was in LA 03:39 < aestetix> It's funny that "testicle" sounds a lot like "tesla coil" 03:39 < RangerZ1> i thought he was going up to san fran too to visit family 03:39 <@Dagmar> No, Wilbur's family is in LA as far as I know 03:39 < RangerZ1> but either way, yeah if your apt floods... we ALL have problems 03:40 < aestetix> Los Angeles or Louisiana? 03:40 < RangerZ1> namely... not milk or bread... 03:40 < RangerZ1> city of angels 03:40 < RangerZ1> s/not/no 03:46 <@Dagmar> I know what I'm going to do about those sneky smurfs 03:46 <@Dagmar> Imma submit a couch portal 03:46 <@Dagmar> ...in the middle of the damn river, but reachable from behind the fence here. 03:47 <@Dagmar> Soo... in "public space", if you have a boat, or are me. 03:49 < RangerZ1> lol 03:49 < RangerZ1> now just imagine... if all this rain was snow instead... 03:50 < RangerZ1> When the temperature is around 30 degrees, one inch of liquid precipitation would fall as 10 inches of snow -- assuming the storm is all snow. 03:50 <@Dagmar> We'd get about two feet of it 03:50 <@Dagmar> ...which would be pretty cool 03:51 <@Dagmar> BUT WE DON'T GET SNOW HERE. 03:51 <@Dagmar> So basically, what would happen is everything would be encased in two inches of ice, and we'd have to start burning children for heat 03:52 < RangerZ1> http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/southeast-region/weather-radar 03:52 < RangerZ1> oh fuck 03:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Southeast Regional Doppler Weather Radar Map - AccuWeather.com (at www.accuweather.com) 03:52 < RangerZ1> double/triple front systems 03:52 < RangerZ1> and Bahhumbug is going to get fucked tonight , and not even get flowers 03:53 <@Dagmar> Haha! I see my bike! 03:54 < RangerZ1> ? 03:54 <@Dagmar> https://www.google.com/maps/place/36%C2%B009'25.9%22N+86%C2%B053'11.5%22W/@36.157181,-86.886534,205m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 03:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: 36°09'25.9"N 86°53'11.5"W - Google Maps (at www.google.com) 03:55 < RangerZ1> ahh 03:55 <@Bahhumbug> http://io9.com/gods-12-biggest-dick-moves-in-the-old-testament-1522970429 03:55 < RangerZ1> all of them are god 03:55 < RangerZ1> i called it 03:55 < RangerZ1> was i right? 03:56 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: if you _feel_ the river flowing again... remember, give us all a shout out on text messages so you can be our early warning.... 03:56 < RangerZ1> lol 03:58 <@Dagmar> Yeah 'cuz I'll have definitely grabbed the backups and skedaddled for higher ground 03:59 <@Bahhumbug> What's that jail-like facility off Cockrill Bend Blvd? 03:59 <@Dagmar> lat/long please? 04:00 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: if it looks like a jail... probably TSU 04:00 < RangerZ1> lol 04:00 <@Dagmar> No, it's definitely a jail 04:00 < RangerZ1> ahh 04:00 < RangerZ1> but TSU looks pretty bad IMHO 04:00 <@Dagmar> There's a minimum security facility over there, and the "special needs" facility for people with terminal diseases 04:01 <@Dagmar> I think he's talking about around 36.184717,-86.887419 04:01 <@Bahhumbug> https://www.google.com/maps/place/36%C2%B009%2725.9%22N+86%C2%B053%2711.5%22W/@36.1687431,-86.8811259,529m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 04:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: 36°09'25.9"N 86°53'11.5"W - Google Maps (at www.google.com) 04:02 <@Bahhumbug> 7177 Cockrill Bend Blvd 04:02 <@Bahhumbug> And yeah, looks like minimum security, possibly a juvvie facility. 04:02 <@Dagmar> THat's the minimum security faciliity 04:03 <@Dagmar> The put DUI offenders and stuff in there 04:03 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, is that where ware was? 04:03 <@Bahhumbug> (See what I did there?) 04:03 <@Dagmar> Probably 04:03 <@Dagmar> I've been in there to repair pCs 04:04 <@Dagmar> The guards were funny 04:04 <@Dagmar> "If something goes wrong, I want to be sure you'll follow my instructions and stay _behind me_" 04:05 <@Dagmar> Him wearing a cotton shirt. 04:05 <@Dagmar> Me wearing my biker jacket. 04:05 <@Dagmar> "That's fine but if they get past you, *I* don't have to care about possibly being sued." 04:05 <@Bahhumbug> Hah 04:05 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/manchester-tn/37355/weather-warnings/335643 04:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: Manchester Weather Advisories - Weather Warnings & Watches for Manchester, TN (at www.accuweather.com) 04:05 <@Bahhumbug> "yay" 04:06 <@Bahhumbug> I love TN weather. 04:06 <@Dagmar> If there would be someone I couldn't take out, they wouldn't be in min-sec 04:07 <@Dagmar> Oooh they're promising NINJA TORNADOES 04:07 < RangerZ1> aestetix: why don't you get a convoy of oil trucks, fill them with water 04:07 < RangerZ1> and then solve oakland's water issue 04:07 <@Dagmar> Ooo! I know! 04:07 < aestetix> Maybe I should get a really fat guy, make him stand next to a well, and then accuse him of sexism 04:08 < aestetix> so his sweat fills the well 04:08 <@Dagmar> Throw a big benefit concert at the dosks, telli everyone Phish is playing, and then kill a sapling onstage. 04:08 < aestetix> lol 04:10 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: Or the bloody tears of impotent rage fro the faxuminists... 04:10 <@Bahhumbug> s/fro/from/ 04:10 <@Dagmar> Way more Phish fans 04:11 <@Bahhumbug> I so want to post that http://io9.com/gods-12-biggest-dick-moves-in-the-old-testament-1522970429 like to FB back the blowback would probably cause my wife issus at work :/ 04:12 <@Bahhumbug> Fucking bible-thumping nitwits. 04:13 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:14 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:33 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: thats the really nice thing about working with mostly indian or chinese 04:33 < RangerZ1> one god...we laugh at your simplicity 04:33 < RangerZ1> lol 04:35 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: I like how your car looks to fit inside the back of the pickup truck near it 04:35 <@Bahhumbug> Shiva's long overdue to destroy this planet. 04:36 < RangerZ1> as long as he starts with the bible belt or the middle east 04:36 < RangerZ1> thats all I ask 04:41 < RangerZ1> our constitution doesn't allow religious tests... BUT there is nothing saying anything about science tests 04:41 < RangerZ1> "if you think the earth is < 10k year old, you are unqualified to hold public office" 04:43 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: why would there be blowback? the OT god is a fucking asshole 04:43 <@Bahhumbug> Because I live in fucking Manchester, TN and my wife works with bible thumpers? 04:44 < RangerZ1> aestetix: yet again, thats only something a non-believer can say 04:44 < aestetix> no it isn't 04:44 < RangerZ1> yes, yes it is 04:44 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ1: The old testament god is a fucking asshole. 04:44 <@Bahhumbug> Period. 04:44 < RangerZ1> by 'their' definition, you can't insult any of it, and what god did back then was right 04:44 < aestetix> uhhhh 04:44 < RangerZ1> ohh believe me, i think so to 04:45 < aestetix> Maybe a believer in idiocy 04:45 < RangerZ1> aestetix: southern bible thumpers are NOT like anyone you'd meet in SF since the little issue with the south american forests in the 1970s 04:46 < RangerZ1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones et.al. 04:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Jim Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 04:46 < aestetix> you don't have to be a bible thumper to be a believer 04:47 < RangerZ1> yes you do 04:47 < RangerZ1> just ask a bible thumper 04:47 < aestetix> RangerZ1: aren't you catholic? :p 04:47 < RangerZ1> by birth 04:47 < RangerZ1> aestetix: if you haven't experienced _real_ bible thumpers... then this might sound like a joke 04:48 < aestetix> I'm really interested in theology, mostly from an analytical perspective though 04:48 < RangerZ1> but seriously, they are way beyond the most religious person you'll ever meet in your daily life in SF 04:48 < aestetix> But I think it's important to discuss and ask questions about why certain things are in doctrines, etc 04:48 < RangerZ1> which is why you are a heretic 04:49 < aestetix> I mean, one of my goals is to read the new testament in greek 04:49 < aestetix> or at least the gospel of john 04:49 < RangerZ1> a girl i 'sorta' dated... (sorta just friends w/benefits) ... her family was bible thumpers like that 04:49 < RangerZ1> southern baptist 04:49 < RangerZ1> why limit yourself to just john 04:49 < aestetix> What exactly do bible thumpers do 04:50 < aestetix> Not limiting really, but John is interesting to me because of how it frames things. 04:50 < RangerZ1> they believe all the bat shit crazy things fox news says, they believe the bible is a _historical_ document 04:50 < aestetix> I'm also very interested in Acts. 04:50 < aestetix> uh 04:50 < aestetix> It sort of is. I mean, it is a written record of oral tradition. 04:50 < RangerZ1> no 04:50 < aestetix> But it has a lot of sources. 04:50 < RangerZ1> 100% 'fact' 04:50 < RangerZ1> handed down by god 04:50 < aestetix> uh 04:51 < aestetix> That's fucking stupid. 04:51 < RangerZ1> yep 04:51 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: There was an elementary _principal_ out here that believes the earth is a few thousand years old. 04:51 <@Bahhumbug> This area is back asswards. 04:51 < aestetix> The reason I'm interested in Acts is because of Saul/Paul 04:51 < RangerZ1> when I said < 10k years old... I wasn't picking that number/idea out of thin air 04:51 < RangerZ1> they believe the earth is 6553 years old... or something 04:52 < RangerZ1> that noah lived to be 800 04:52 < aestetix> I have no idea how old the earth really is, and a written tome from oral tradition certain isn't going to tell me 04:52 < RangerZ1> that there was only 6 generations between adam and eve and noah 04:52 < RangerZ1> and that noah's family repopulated the earth via incest 04:52 <@Bahhumbug> I think he's missing the point that many, many people take the bible literally. 04:52 < aestetix> haha 04:52 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: how can they take the bible literally when there are many translations? 04:53 < aestetix> Unless they all read hebrew 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> King James. 04:53 < RangerZ1> aestetix: b/c obviously the version THEY have is right 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that 04:53 < aestetix> What's so special about KJV? 04:53 < RangerZ1> first english version 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> It's THE BIBLE. 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> And they believe it. 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> Every last word. 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> Literally. 04:53 < aestetix> Have they actually read the thing? 04:53 < RangerZ1> occassionally they will branch out to different translations 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> (And carefully avoiding most of Leviticus, I might add) 04:53 < RangerZ1> but still, 'fact' 04:54 < aestetix> I mean, if they really wanted to know the "word of god" wouldn't the logical thing be to learn hebrew and study in its original form like the jews do? 04:54 < RangerZ1> aestetix: yeah, 30% of the USA or so, believes the bible is fact based, more so than science 04:54 < RangerZ1> until you can actually 'grasp' that 04:54 < RangerZ1> you'll be unable to realize how fucked our country is 04:55 < aestetix> god ugh 04:55 < RangerZ1> and why our politcs are as they are 04:55 < aestetix> I think the bible is absolutely fascinating 04:55 < aestetix> But not like that 04:55 < aestetix> You know it's possible to be religious and not a complete fucking nutjob, right? 04:56 < RangerZ1> so is steven hawkings God created the Integers 04:56 < RangerZ1> but that at least has more basis in reality 04:56 < aestetix> actually brief history of time is fantastic 04:56 < aestetix> I really should revisit it 04:56 < RangerZ1> aestetix: sure it is, but most people aren't that way 04:56 < RangerZ1> 39% of people would disown their child if they were going to marry an atheist 04:57 < RangerZ1> or something fucked up like that 04:57 < RangerZ1> they would rather support them being gay 04:57 < RangerZ1> or biracial marriage 04:57 < aestetix> So wait. How is it that people in the south are so stubbornly religious when I keep hearing about the youth leaving the church? 04:57 < RangerZ1> thats 'on average' 04:57 < RangerZ1> not by geography 04:57 < RangerZ1> you CAN NOT leave the church in those families 04:58 < RangerZ1> unless you move away 04:58 <@Bahhumbug> The bible's the most awesomest work of fiction ever written. It should win awards. 04:58 < aestetix> Well some parts have historicity to them 04:58 <@Bahhumbug> Not much. 04:58 < RangerZ1> Bahhumbug: we went B&N when we were in HS... and put the -fiction- sign above the bibles 04:58 < aestetix> For example, some scholars have theorized that the "tower of babel" was actually a ziggurat in.... egypt I think 04:58 < RangerZ1> was that way for a few weeks 04:59 < RangerZ1> then apparently an old lady saw it and freaked the fuck out 04:59 <@Bahhumbug> And until they can go back in time and see for themselves all it is is a _theory_. 04:59 < aestetix> And a lot of elements from especially genesis are clearly taken from egyptian mythology 04:59 <@Bahhumbug> Anyway, religion and IRC == ENOFUCKINGWAY. 04:59 <@Bahhumbug> I know better. 04:59 < aestetix> As well as gilgamesh 04:59 < RangerZ1> aestetix: and mithrian before that 04:59 * Bahhumbug & 04:59 < aestetix> sorry 05:00 < RangerZ1> zietgiest is funny as fuck 05:00 < RangerZ1> its misleading 05:00 < aestetix> I spent a while studying chapter 1 of genesis. It's fascinating. 05:00 < RangerZ1> but really enlightening in that it never 'lies' (in the first 1/3rd about religion) 05:00 < aestetix> And there are a few points where it's clear to me at least that there are hints of polytheism 05:00 < RangerZ1> of course there is, the golden half 05:01 < RangerZ1> the 'snake' is the symbol of many religions at the time 05:01 < RangerZ1> etc 05:01 < aestetix> yep 05:01 < RangerZ1> age of aries 05:01 < RangerZ1> age of Pisces 05:01 < aestetix> also "adam" is a mistranslation 05:01 < RangerZ1> age of aquarius 05:02 < RangerZ1> yep, its adam and steve 05:02 < RangerZ1> hahaha 05:02 < aestetix> In the hebrew, "adama" means earthy, and "adam" was really a word that meant "earth creature" 05:02 < aestetix> IE the person in eden god creates is never given a name 05:02 < RangerZ1> nothing wins over "red sea" and "reed sea" 05:02 < aestetix> oh man that one is also fun 05:03 < aestetix> which is interesting that the earth creature with no name has the power to name the animals 05:03 < RangerZ1> "so what you're saying is... he crossed a marsh at low tide", ... 'yep' 05:03 < aestetix> I take it I would be branded a heretic in the south. 05:03 < RangerZ1> also, the 'great flood' 05:04 < RangerZ1> is when the Mediterranean flooded by the straight between france/spain broke 05:04 < aestetix> I mean, this doesn't discount the importance of studying the bible 05:04 < aestetix> It's greatly imformative to understanding the world today 05:04 < aestetix> But it's not a fucking documentary 05:04 < RangerZ1> aestetix: sure, but so is shakespearian plays 05:04 < aestetix> yep 05:05 < RangerZ1> but no one kills over those 05:05 < RangerZ1> (commits suicide once in a while...) 05:05 < aestetix> Unless you're an heir of edward de vere 05:05 < RangerZ1> but thats different 05:05 < aestetix> It's interesting you bring that up 05:05 < RangerZ1> see... same joke...different angles 05:05 < RangerZ1> lol 05:05 < aestetix> Since the authorship of shakespeare's plays are as much up for question as the bible 05:06 < RangerZ1> do you like to read novels? 05:06 < aestetix> sure 05:06 < RangerZ1> http://ln.m-chan.org/v3/series.php?SID=9 05:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Baka-Tsuki ePUB Generator || For the moment... (at ln.m-chan.org) 05:06 < RangerZ1> Campione! is a series of light novels from japan 05:06 < RangerZ1> and they exist in a world where gods are real 05:07 < RangerZ1> Campione* that is, not the books*, but you get my point 05:07 < RangerZ1> it does a really interesting job of comparing some of the different gods in the middle east (not abrahamic ones) 05:08 < RangerZ1> b/c ... not financially suicidal 05:08 < RangerZ1> lol 05:08 < aestetix> well 05:08 < RangerZ1> also a good story 05:08 < RangerZ1> shhh 05:08 < aestetix> I have a copy of the epic of gilgamesh 05:08 < aestetix> which I plan on reading after I finish the odysset 05:08 < RangerZ1> these are only like 100 pages 05:08 < RangerZ1> quick reads 05:08 < aestetix> well 05:09 < aestetix> the approach I'm taking to the odyssey is the same I took to the iliad 05:09 < RangerZ1> but either way, facinating to see how japan views gods 05:09 < aestetix> I have an audiobook as well as a paper book 05:09 < RangerZ1> osmosis while you sleep? 05:09 < RangerZ1> ahh 05:09 < aestetix> I like listening to it because it originated in oral tradition 05:09 < RangerZ1> a book is more enjoyable when you can just sit back and listen anyways 05:10 < aestetix> sure 05:10 < aestetix> it just takes longer to read 05:10 < RangerZ1> less 'memerable' 05:10 < aestetix> but with the odyssey it's really nice 05:11 < RangerZ1> i almost never read my urban fantasy novel series anymore 05:11 < RangerZ1> i just get the audio books when they release 2~3 days after the hardback books 05:11 < RangerZ1> and listen while cleaning/cooking/etc 05:14 < RangerZ1> so... i get my list of prelim papers tomorrow :/ 05:14 < RangerZ1> FML 05:15 < RangerZ1> "here right a paper reviewing these papers, and if its not good enough: GTFO" 05:26 < RangerZ1> NotLarry: http://www.fark.com/comments/8449446/News-A-14-year-old-boy-is-arrested-Fark-For-dressing-up-as-a-clown-chasing-scaring-kids 05:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: FARK.com: (8449446) News: A 14-year-old boy is arrested. Fark: For dressing up as a clown, chasing and scaring kids (at www.fark.com) 05:26 < RangerZ1> how old are your kids? 05:29 < aestetix> what did he get arrested for 05:29 < RangerZ1> being NotLarry's child 05:30 < RangerZ1> thats a class 6 felony in some states 05:30 < aestetix> haha 05:30 < aestetix> so there are birthrights and birthwrongs? 05:30 < RangerZ1> didn't you read the bible? 05:30 < RangerZ1> geeze 05:31 < RangerZ1> was just covered this 05:31 < aestetix> I mostly jerked off to the incest scenes 05:31 < RangerZ1> those born of Job are 'birthwrongs' 05:31 < RangerZ1> "some days I feel like Job" 05:31 < RangerZ1> lol 09:12 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 09:15 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: wtfsleepomg] 09:27 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:28 <@Dolemite> Nothing makes you appreciate your own bed like camping. 09:40 <@Dickie> or prison 09:40 * Dickie points at NotLarry 09:41 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 09:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 09:47 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:47 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 09:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 09:50 <@Shadow404> is corydon not in channel anymore? 09:51 <@Dickie> You guys hurt his feelings. 09:51 <@Dickie> Jerks. 09:52 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:52 -!- Synx|awy [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:01 -!- rattleX is now known as rattle 10:01 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has quit [Changing host] 10:01 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:01 <@rattle> I find myself this fine Monday morning reflecting on the philosophy of the Taylor Swift. 10:01 <@rattle> Players gonna play. 10:01 -!- Synx|hm [~Synx@unaffiliated/synx-hm/x-1623004] has joined #se2600 10:01 <@rattle> Haters gonna hate. 10:01 <@rattle> Shake it off.. 10:02 <@rattle> Shake it off.. 10:02 < Synx|hm> hate hate hate hate hate 10:02 <@rattle> Shake it. 10:02 <@rattle> Shake it. 10:02 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Shaking Taylor Swift. 10:03 <@Dagmar> This might be worth exploring further. 10:03 -!- SuMo_D_ [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:06 < Synx|hm> so odd out of the blue, i cant get 'If this is it' out of my head by Huey Lewis and the News 10:08 <@Dagmar> oddball: It appears that Adam has spawned 10:16 <@Dagmar> Synx: So what would it sound like if Gilber Gottfried covered it in a lounge somewhere? 10:18 < Synx|hm> haha 10:18 <@Evilpig> Does everybody know what time it is?! 10:19 <@Mirage> Synx|hm: normally if I get a Huey song stuck in my head it'll be "Its Alright" 10:20 < Synx|hm> ya so odd, i had not heard that song in years and soon as i woke up there it was in my head 10:20 < Synx|hm> this must be end times 10:20 < Synx|hm> ugh i need an H.323 (more specifically Q.931) ISDN expert 10:25 <@Mirage> Started rebuilding my home server on CentOS 7 so I can start getting a feel for all the changes in RHEL 7. So far I'm not overly impressed by systemd or their xfs tools. 10:31 <@Mirage> Hint for anyone else deciding to mess with it, `ssm resize -s ` will get you a larger device, but the tools fail at resizing the file system. If on that same device you go back and do `ssm resize -s+1M ` then it will properly allow increasing the filesystem. 10:33 <@Mirage> I'm sure it's a glitch they'll get fixed. I found it mildly disconcerting that the version for the ssm package contained "alpha2" 10:34 <@Dagmar> I'm unfortunately going to have to stop you right there and say "No." 10:34 <@Dagmar> "No, no no no no. No." 10:35 <@Dagmar> I disagree with even the existence of ssm. 10:37 <@Dagmar> It also smacks of Poettering 10:38 <@Dagmar> ...but hey, it looks like you already found the prize at the bottom of the cereal box: 10:38 <@Dagmar> "Provides no new functionality, but does provide new bugs." 10:41 <@Evilpig> lol 10:47 <@Mirage> ssm is what they claim you should use for RHEL7, so I was using that. Not sure what it did to piss off xfs, but using the xfs tools to try to grow the FS after increasing the size using ssm did nothing...even after a reboot 10:51 <@Mirage> until I added "+1M" anyway, then everything was cool and the xfs tools worked as expected 11:00 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has joined #se2600 11:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mog] by ChanServ 11:05 -!- mog [~mog@fsf/member/mog] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 11:20 < Synx|hm> so, i was at a wedding this weekend, drank ALOT 11:20 < Synx|hm> today, i am not feeling well at all ( i didn't drink yesterday and didn't really feel hung over) 11:20 < Synx|hm> now i feel like im driving a bus from the way back end, 11:21 < Synx|hm> bit woozie, unstable, and i feel like im starting to sweat 11:21 < Synx|hm> is it terminal? 11:21 <@Dickie> [ebola joke] 11:22 < Synx|hm> FUCK 11:24 <@Dagmar> Explanation: Yesterday, you were still drunk. 11:27 <@Evilpig> signs of an epic drunk 11:32 <@Evilpig> I finally made it to chapter 8 in bravely default. you fight everyone again this time in sets of 4. 11:40 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41 < Synx|hm> haha 11:42 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 11:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 11:49 * shapr hugs klixa 11:49 <@shapr> HOW YOU DOIN? 11:59 <@Shadow404> diaf shapr 11:59 * shapr hugs Shadow404 11:59 <@shapr> it's okay, I understand. 12:07 <@Shadow404> what is it that you understand? 12:07 <@oddball> Damn. Glad I didn't buy a Razor brand keyboard when they were on Woot a while back. One of my friends is on his third and it's still under warrantee. 12:14 < RangerZ1> oddball: I don't get the "mechanical keyboard" hype 12:14 <@Shadow404> clicky sound ftw 12:14 <@Shadow404> i think its nostalgia for most people, like me 12:15 < RangerZ1> other than the sound, and the 'optional tactile feedback' its not that great 12:15 <@shapr> Shadow404: I have an ex-wife too 12:15 < RangerZ1> yeah, i grew up on them too 12:15 <@oddball> RangerZ1: I'm guessing a good part of it is the same reason why reviewers dis plastic cased phones/laptops over metal cases. "It feels more solid." 12:15 <@Shadow404> shapr: lawl 12:16 < RangerZ1> it feels more easily scratched 12:16 <@oddball> or the other "feels cheap." Ok... is it? 12:16 < RangerZ1> wait waht? 12:16 <@shapr> As much as I love my kinesis ergo keyboards, I want an ergodox. 12:17 <@opticron> shapr, which keyswitches? 12:17 <@shapr> I still don't know the difference between the flavors 12:17 <@shapr> Do they have buckling spring switches? 12:17 <@oddball> I actually have been thinking about geting a new keyboard, but simply because I would like back-lit keys. 12:18 <@opticron> beyond clickiness and tactileness, actuation force differs as well 12:18 <@oddball> In the meantime, I will continue to use an el-cheapo minimalist Dell branded keyboard. 12:18 <@shapr> Yeah, my laptop has a backlit keyboard, and it's surprisingly nice 12:18 <@opticron> shapr, there are some keyboards that have those, but I don't think ergodox supports those keyswitches 12:18 <@shapr> oh, too bad 12:18 <@shapr> What's the recommended keyswitch flavor for the ergodox? 12:18 <@oddball> I don't think I've ever owned a backlit keyboard on anything beyond a phone. 12:18 <@opticron> I like greens 12:18 <@opticron> but it's different for every person 12:19 < RangerZ1> whenever i see those kind on youtube or other video, they are always flashing 12:19 < RangerZ1> so i don't know if thats on purpose, or the video recording equipment 12:19 < RangerZ1> or what 12:19 < RangerZ1> but its annoying 12:19 <@opticron> greens are clicky, tactile, medium actuation force 12:19 <@shapr> opticron: is there a list of choices? 12:19 < RangerZ1> yes 12:19 <@opticron> yes 12:19 < RangerZ1> 6 or so 12:19 <@shapr> ouch: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:List_of_all_keyboard_switches 12:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Category:List of all keyboard switches - Deskthority wiki (at deskthority.net) 12:20 < RangerZ1> http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX 12:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cherry MX - Deskthority wiki (at deskthority.net) 12:20 < RangerZ1> cherry mx are the most popular 12:21 <@shapr> neat, they will have RGB keyswitches 12:21 < RangerZ1> there are travel distance changes 12:21 < RangerZ1> etc 12:21 <@oddball> I really want one of those Logitech keyboards that has the LCD screen on the top. I could see that being useful. 12:22 < RangerZ1> but lets all be honest... unless the keyboard 1) has fully programmable LED screens on each key 2) mows the grass 3) makes dinner... it really isn't that impressive 12:22 < RangerZ1> lol 12:23 <@oddball> Which is why I use the keyboard I do. 12:23 <@opticron> shapr, the ergodox does not support any leds except for the three indicators on the right side 12:23 <@shapr> cute: http://www.cherry.de/cid/press_1474.htm 12:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: CHERRY - Presse (at www.cherry.de) 12:24 < RangerZ1> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/maximus/ 12:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Optimus Maximus keyboard (at www.artlebedev.com) 12:24 <@oddball> I would use a cheaper trackball, but no one makes one these days that isn't $100, is a square pad with a big ball in the middle (fuck "ergonomic" designs, they almost always hurt my hand), and isn't a complete piece of crap. 12:24 < RangerZ1> this is the only keyboard i thought was innovative 12:24 < RangerZ1> but at 2k not worth it 12:24 <@shapr> oddball: what do you use for a trackball? 12:24 < RangerZ1> or w/e it came out as 12:26 <@oddball> shapr: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Expert-Mouse-Optical-Trackball/dp/B00009KH63/ 12:26 <@oddball> So... currently on sale for $70. 12:27 <@opticron> shapr, but if you want an ergodox, I have one with brown switches built up and waiting for keycaps and kits coming in for two other switch flavours 12:27 < RangerZ1> also, thats probably not as comfortable as the 15$ ones from 2000 or so 12:28 <@shapr> oddball: why not just get a spacenavigator? http://www.amazon.com/3Dconnexion-3DX-700028-SpaceNavigator-3D-Mouse/dp/B000LB7G00/ 12:28 <@shapr> opticron: I'd love to try it out 12:29 < RangerZ1> from what I hear, they aren't that good for every day usage 12:29 < RangerZ1> b/c I was talking with a guy with one, about using it in a game 12:29 < RangerZ1> and he said its basically impossible to get twitch reactions from it 12:30 < RangerZ1> great for cad, but thats it he said 12:30 <@oddball> shapr: Huh... never really seen one. I'd be interested in playing with one. 12:30 <@shapr> oddball: as RangerZ1 says, may not be good for games, but if you're looking for something trackball-like, could work for you 12:31 <@shapr> and if you hate it, I'll buy it off you :-P 12:31 <@oddball> Yeah... what RangerZ1 said, I'd be afraid that the range of sensitivity would be too small for my liking. 12:31 <@shapr> now I want to try one 12:31 <@shapr> I've used the old school spaceballs, they're nifty 12:32 < RangerZ1> shapr: what you and Shadow404 do home alone at night... thats up to you... but just because he dressed up in a space suit... 12:32 * shapr blinks 12:32 <@oddball> NOw I'm curious how well a good gaming joystick would work for 3D design. That thing reminds me a lot of some early 90's joystick designs. 12:33 <@shapr> I have some surplus insulation from the ISS 12:33 <@shapr> I wonder how the LEAP motion would do? 12:33 < RangerZ1> oddball: not really that well, i tried it back in 2001 or so 12:33 <@oddball> It almost looks like someone desided to design a joystick that didn't look like a joysitck. :p 12:33 < RangerZ1> oddball: basically, also it has vertical movement thats not well displayed in the images 12:34 <@shapr> yeah, the spacenavigator has forward/back, left/right, twist, and down/up 12:35 <@oddball> So... a joystick with a hat? 12:35 < RangerZ1> shhh 12:36 <@shapr> just like canada! 12:37 <@oddball> Ok... one of my cats is really begging for attention. Back in a bit. 12:39 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 12:43 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:57 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPlrhS0hU0 part of me wants to buy this... just to play it near SJW-extremists 12:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Akibas Trip Official Trailer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 13:01 <@oddball> So... apparently Decius' rant this year will be on the 2nd amendment. That should be interesting. 13:05 < RangerZ1> we finally going to repeal that archaic nonsense? 13:05 * RangerZ1 feels a little bad purposely trolling oddball like that... lol 13:05 < RangerZ1> but only a little ;) 13:06 <@oddball> grrrrr.... 13:06 <@oddball> Actually, you know what, at least saying "let's repeal that" is at least honest. 13:07 <@oddball> You know, instead of "I support the 2nd amendment, but I don't think people should be able to own/carry guns." 13:10 <@oddball> or "silly people, no one wants to take your guns away" *turns around and talks about how we need to take people's guns away.* 13:15 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@cpe-065-190-015-088.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 13:17 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 13:17 <@Mirage> oddball: Yes, Razor keyboards suck...or at least the two I had did (second was warranty replacement). 13:17 <@Mirage> oddball: Never had an issue with the Razor mouse, though. 13:18 <@Mirage> I replaced my keyboard with one of these and never looked back: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126347 13:18 <@Mirage> "Logitech G105 Keyboard" 13:18 <@oddball> I remember looking at one when woot had them a year or so ago... and one of the *positive* reviews said "it almost always works!" ...wait... *almost* always works? 13:21 <@oddball> Wait... NewEgg is currently selling new Logitech G19s's for less than refurbs? 13:21 <@Mirage> The problem with them isn't the hardware, it's the software and firmware. 13:21 <@oddball> (I've been eyeing those for a while.) 13:24 < RangerZ1> oddball: I actually have no problem with gun ownership ( i own one (mind you its only for target practice)) I just think the way/reason/logic behind the current 2nd amendment is out dated, b/c if bill gates, buffet, and both koch brothers (4 richest people in america) got together and spent every dime they had, they could only buy and fly a single F22 for a year 13:24 < RangerZ1> so the idea of guns as self-protection from citizens can still be valid, but self-protection from the gov't is long past gone 13:24 <@oddball> gotcha 13:25 < RangerZ1> therefore we should have CCW done away with 13:25 <@Mirage> Yeah, there's not much point in trying to protect from the gov't w/ guns because they'll just come at you some other way 13:25 < RangerZ1> if you want to carry, carry opening 13:25 < RangerZ1> openly* 13:26 <@oddball> wait... you think that self protection from other citizens is good, but CCW should be illegal? 13:26 < RangerZ1> b/c thats a bigger deterrent 13:26 < RangerZ1> openly carry your hand gun, no hiding it 13:26 < RangerZ1> i never said 'good' i said 'valid' 13:27 <@Mirage> So long as bleeding heart assholes don't fuck up my ability to own guns and go hunting, I couldn't give a shit less. The truth of the matter is that no matter what reforms they put in place to limit whatever type of gun, someone somewhere will use a legal gun in an illegal manner and start the whole shitstorm over again 13:27 < RangerZ1> personally I'd rather have everyone with a CCW, have to wear a symbol 13:27 < RangerZ1> perhaps something that will stand out at night 13:27 < RangerZ1> maybe yellow 13:27 < RangerZ1> and a shape thats recognizable 13:27 < RangerZ1> maybe a star 13:28 <@oddball> Ok... still trolling. Just checking. 13:28 <@Mirage> maybe with another star embrodered on it as well? 13:28 * RangerZ1 went dark...very dark with that one... 13:28 < RangerZ1> but honestly, i think the idea of hiding your gun is stupid 13:28 < RangerZ1> if you want everyone to carry like old 'wild west' thats fine 13:29 <@oddball> Well, there's a couple reasons that folks push for concealed carry. 13:29 < RangerZ1> i'm well aware of them, they don't want labelled 13:29 < RangerZ1> everything else is verbal acrobatics to support that idea 13:29 < RangerZ1> lol 13:29 < RangerZ1> also, guns are expensive 13:29 < RangerZ1> and they don't want robbed 13:30 <@Mirage> lets ne honest, though...the gov't has been steadily increasing it's power and reducing citizen's rights for quite some time...and has stepped it into high gear since 9/11. 13:30 < RangerZ1> b/c a gun doesn't stop you from getting robbed 13:30 <@oddball> nope. there's valid arguments beyond not wanting to be labeled. 13:30 < RangerZ1> Mirage: "imperial presidency" 13:30 < RangerZ1> if we stopped that fucking horrible idea 13:30 < RangerZ1> I feel a lot of the rest of it would fall away too 13:30 < RangerZ1> "its legal b/c the president did it" 13:31 < RangerZ1> umm... no... 13:31 < RangerZ1> b/c congress has no idea what is really going on, and when it does its too chicken shit to say so 13:31 <@oddball> One is the thought that a thug might target the guy with the gun and take him out one way or the other as an opening move when knocking over a gas stations, etc... 13:32 < RangerZ1> congressman can verbally declassify ANYTHING legally while on the floor of the hosue 13:32 <@Mirage> as i've been saying for ~30 years, the problem with politics is politicians. what we need to have are normal people to run for office on the slogan of "I'm not perfect, but I'll do my best" 13:32 < RangerZ1> and not be held liable 13:32 <@oddball> Many feel that open carrying requires you to get involved in a bad situation as quickly as possible, while concealed doesn't. 13:33 < RangerZ1> "oh well" 13:33 < RangerZ1> with great power comes great responsibility 13:33 <@Mirage> oddball: unless you're in law enforcement, i don't think that you're required to jump into any situation 13:33 <@oddball> Also, there's the bit that if you're allowed to carry concealed, it makes target selection by thugs a good bit trickier. 13:33 < RangerZ1> not really, since less and less people own guns 13:34 < RangerZ1> and gun ownership is concentrated more and more to a few non-city dwellers 13:34 <@oddball> Mirage: It's more of a question of whether the thug considers you a threat or not, rather than legal requirements. 13:34 <@oddball> RangerZ1: That's been changing over the past couple years. 13:35 <@oddball> At least according to the number of carry permits issued. 13:35 <@Mirage> ok, line up you, me, and Dagmar in front of a "Thug"..you and I both have concealed guns. Who do _you_ think the thug is going to see as more of a threat? 13:35 < RangerZ1> yeah, you gotta protect yourself from the other knuckleheads carrying guns concealed 13:35 < RangerZ1> obviously Mirage 13:35 <@oddball> While violent crime has been going down. 13:35 <@Mirage> lol 13:35 < RangerZ1> b/c you take out the weakest target first ;) 13:36 < RangerZ1> hasn't RISK taught you anything? 13:36 < RangerZ1> lol 13:36 <@Mirage> and there I thought it was a Doctor Who reference from the latest episode 13:36 < RangerZ1> i don't watch dr who 13:36 < RangerZ1> I lost track after the 2nd season of the new show 13:37 < RangerZ1> and just too much to keep track with 13:37 <@oddball> Mirage: Right, and then take that same line up, except that you're carrying an old west style gun belt. 13:38 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Oddly enough, you're on the opposite side of the argument with most folks that want to restrict carry. If they are willing to allow it period, they almost always say "ok, but it must be 100% concealed." 13:39 < RangerZ1> thats fine 13:39 < RangerZ1> I'd rather know who all has a gun near me 13:39 < RangerZ1> so i can have the snipers target them first... I mean... 13:40 < RangerZ1> but seriously, its a 'does the public have the right to know if someone has a gun' issue 13:40 <@oddball> I've got a problem with that largely because saying "you can do it, as long as no one knows" is the same as "you're not allowed to do it" in my book. 13:40 <@oddball> And the answer is "no." 13:40 < RangerZ1> i'm all for publicizing CCW owner names and home addresses online 13:40 < RangerZ1> and seeing people CRY 13:41 < RangerZ1> washington post or somewhere else did that for NY or something and people flipped the fuck out 13:41 < RangerZ1> lol 13:41 <@oddball> I love how the newspapers that did that then got all butthurt when carry permit holders started publishing their names, addresses, etc. 13:41 < RangerZ1> "why? you have a gun, if anything its telling people where not to rob" 13:42 < RangerZ1> the problem is...reality doesn't match rhetoric when it comes to guns most of the time 13:42 <@oddball> It's because the clear intent was for people to then harrass them. Owning a gun isn't a big deal in this state, but there are areas of the country where gun owners feel the need to keep it secret. 13:43 < RangerZ1> b/c the safest way to handle a gun, is to not 13:49 <@Mirage> I'm really not liking that last statement. I've been around guns all my life, so that statement just doesn't fit. I can see where someone who has never been around guns or lives somewhere that they will likely never see a gun used by anyone other than a cop or criminal. 13:52 < RangerZ1> its just a statement based on statistics 13:52 < RangerZ1> but thats true, its more dangerous to be living in a house with a gun owner, than to be the gun owner themselves 13:52 < RangerZ1> except for suicide 13:53 <@Mirage> i still have some work to do with the wife when it comes to pistols and not accidentaly pointing them at anyone (me). Rifles she has no problem with. 13:54 <@opticron> RangerZ1, so you're saying that everyone in the house should be a gun owner 13:55 <@Mirage> And trust me I've driven the rules into her.. 1.) Treat every gun as if it's a loaded gun. 2.) Never point a loaded gun at anyone or anything you don't intend to shoot. 3.) Ref to rule 1 13:56 <@oddball> heh... That's a variation I hadn't heard before... but it works. 13:56 < RangerZ1> but here is the real thing that matters 13:56 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wto4subOirE 13:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bayonetta 2 Review - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 13:56 < RangerZ1> a wii U game thats worth buying 13:56 < RangerZ1> lol 13:57 <@Mirage> That's what was beaten into my head as a kid. 13:58 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Yeah... Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Smash Bros... it's almost like the guys at Nintendo realized that they need to actually make games for their console. 13:59 < RangerZ1> how dare they 13:59 <@oddball> I know right? It's almost like they want my money! 14:00 < RangerZ1> though I gotta admit I like that nintendo went to platinum games and said "what, no one will pay for your amazing game to have a sequel? Here, this is a bag of money, put it on wii U" 14:01 < RangerZ1> other than first party titles like Mario/etc thats the only reason exclusives should exist 14:01 < RangerZ1> lol 14:01 * opticron is still annoyed that destiny can't do cross-platform play 14:02 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Oh, by the way, apparently you get a copy of Bayonetta 1 when you buy the new one. 14:02 < RangerZ1> yeah 14:02 < RangerZ1> also... platinum games made the new upcoming korra avatar game 14:03 < RangerZ1> so i'm actually looking forward to that 14:03 <@opticron> as it is, I can get a PS4 and be angry that I can't play with my friends that have xbone and vice versa, or get destiny for my 360 and be angry that I can't play with anyone at all 14:04 <@oddball> Wait... the different consoles are walled off from each other for Destiny? 14:04 <@opticron> PS3 can play with PS4 14:04 <@opticron> that's it 14:04 <@oddball> bah, suck 14:04 <@opticron> ultrasuck 14:04 < RangerZ1> MS didn't want cross console 14:04 < RangerZ1> and MS and Sony will NEVER allow cross network play 14:04 <@oddball> More reason for me to not buy the game. 14:05 <@opticron> xb360 can't even play with xbone 14:05 <@opticron> oddball, that's my stance 14:05 <@opticron> fuck 'em 14:05 < RangerZ1> and the PC version got scrapped 14:05 <@opticron> I might buy a wii u eventually 14:05 <@oddball> Oh, they scrapped it completely? 14:05 <@opticron> RangerZ1, was it ever officially a thing? 14:06 < RangerZ1> yes/no they talked about it being a possibility 14:06 <@oddball> Of course, I'm not a huge fan of 1st person shooters online, since I'm not a homophobic 14 year old that never leaves his room. 14:06 < RangerZ1> but basically they realized everyone would buy it for PC 14:06 < RangerZ1> and be done with consoles 14:06 < RangerZ1> and consoles is where the money for sequals is 14:08 <@oddball> Of course, on similar note... Borderlands: the Pre-Sequel comes out soon (tomorrow?) 14:08 < RangerZ1> yeah 14:08 < RangerZ1> finally got reviews today 14:08 < RangerZ1> so might be today even 14:16 < aestetix> wow 14:16 < aestetix> Pope Francis rocks 14:17 < RangerZ1> ? 14:17 < aestetix> look at cnn 14:17 < RangerZ1> http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Cleveland-Browns-defense-dismantles-Ben-Roethlisberger-and-the-Steelers/34e76157-b55c-47cc-ac8f-bd745886504c 14:17 < RangerZ1> wtf 14:19 < RangerZ1> wow 14:19 < RangerZ1> thats good, I'm glad he's moving in the right direction 14:26 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:32 < aestetix> it seems like the church is finally cutting back on its crusade against gays 14:49 <@Dickie> The Church or the church? 14:49 <@Dickie> o 14:49 <@Dickie> I think Francis has cut back on most crusades 14:50 <@Dickie> He seems nice. 14:50 < RangerZ2> he needs to host a REAL crusade 14:50 < RangerZ2> otherwise he'll lose his 'evil religious overlord' standing 14:52 -!- RangerZ2 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58 <@Dickie> "What will Catholic parents now have to tell their children about contraception, cohabiting with partners or living homosexual lifestyles?" asked Maria Madise, coordinator of the Voice of the Family, which says it is representing several pro-life and conservative groups. 14:58 <@Dickie> That's cute. 14:59 <@Dickie> BUT THE CHILDREN 14:59 * Dickie shakes Evilpig 14:59 <@shapr> Do homosexuals need contraception? 15:00 <@Dickie> Condoms? 15:00 <@shapr> I mean, lesbians don't need to take the pill, right? 15:00 <@Dickie> Not for the purpose of preventing pregnancy, I'd imagine. 15:01 <@Dickie> Some ladies take things to regulate their business 15:02 <@shapr> right, but that quote implies that parents will have to tell their children something about contraception involving homosexuals. 15:02 <@shapr> English is so ambiguous. 15:03 <@Dickie> Oh, in context, it's clearer. 15:03 <@Dickie> Catholic bishops got together and were nicer about gays and birth control. 15:04 <@shapr> oh 15:04 <@Dickie> That lady peed her pants 15:04 <@shapr> sounds like she needs to regulate her business. 15:04 <@Dickie> She'd rather regulate everyone else's, I'm sure 15:04 <@shapr> I know people like that. 15:24 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-50.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 15:33 -!- SuMo_D_ [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36 < RangerZ> thank god 15:36 < RangerZ> alaska now has gay marriage 15:36 < Synx|hm> holy shit has anyone looked at the weather radar lately? 15:36 < RangerZ> b/c... those long long cold winters... you need to cuddle up with whoever is near you 15:37 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: not as good as may 2010 15:37 < RangerZ> so 'ehh' 15:37 < Synx|hm> ha i wasn't here for that but my sister got stranded at a friends house that became an island for 2 days 15:38 < RangerZ> I came to visit the city for 2 months starting june 6ht or so that year 15:38 < RangerZ> http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-radar 15:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: United States Doppler Weather Radar Map - AccuWeather.com (at www.accuweather.com) 15:39 < RangerZ> in case anyone isn't sure what that is its officially called a "fuck you strip of weather" 15:39 < Synx|hm> yup 15:39 < RangerZ> just thank god its horizontal 15:39 < Synx|hm> i drove from milawaukee back to nashville last night 15:40 < Synx|hm> thank god that thing waited a day to arrive! 15:40 < RangerZ> imagine if it were that shape but rotated 90 degrees 15:40 < Synx|hm> or i'd be dead somewhere along the road 15:40 < RangerZ> just rotated on nashville 15:40 < Synx|hm> ha 15:40 < RangerZ> 3 days of nothing but rain 15:40 <@shapr> Ya know, milawaukee should have a community edited website called milwikiee 15:41 < RangerZ> or Manchester TN, as long as its one of those two 15:57 < Synx|hm> mill-e-wah-que 16:04 < RangerZ> ohh goodie, the front is slowing down... hopefully it'll just stop over mid TN 16:06 < RangerZ> aestetix: i know we (me esp.) have teased you about the rain, but have they said 'why' the weather is basically saying "lets skip CA this decade" 16:07 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: Die. 16:09 < RangerZ> http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-radar-rs?play=1 16:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: United States Radar & Satellite Combo Map - AccuWeather.com (at www.accuweather.com) 16:09 <@brimstone> http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php 16:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: NWS - National Mosaic Enhanced Radar Image: Full Resolution Loop (at radar.weather.gov) 16:09 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: actually it looks like 2 fronts converging on nashville 16:15 < RangerZ> what I like about the accuweather site is that it shows you the sections of the country... and the storm is shown on all the sections , except NW and SW regions 16:15 < RangerZ> lol 16:22 < aestetix> yep 16:23 < RangerZ> except seattle 16:23 < RangerZ> they get their own weather ignoring all of the rest of the nation 16:23 < aestetix> I wonder if people will finally start to realize climate change is real 16:24 <@Bahhumbug> Lies. 16:24 <@Bahhumbug> Just ask the republicunts. 16:25 < aestetix> I prefer to ask meteorologists. 16:25 <@Mirage> i only trust what a meteorologist says if he's standing in front of a window and telling you what he sees 16:25 <@Bahhumbug> Silly boy. Putting science before science fiction. 16:25 <@Bahhumbug> Mirage: heh 16:28 -!- deadcell [~deadcell@cpe-174-100-54-48.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 16:28 -!- deadcell [~deadcell@cpe-174-100-54-48.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:29 < RangerZ> Mirage: meteorologist not weather-man/woman 16:29 < RangerZ> some are both 16:30 < RangerZ> but no requirement 16:30 < RangerZ> also the "near 100% chance of rain" i heard on the radio was quite amusing 16:30 < RangerZ> "you could 'possibly' get no rain on your house... but not likely" 16:32 <@Mirage> I thought it was funny when we had one of the guys in Tulsa start to give forcasts of not "20% chance of rain", but "100% chance that 20% of the viewing area will get rain" 16:35 < RangerZ> Mirage: acutally NOAA has been doing random experiments on whether weather forecasts make sense to people 16:35 < RangerZ> and they don't 16:35 < RangerZ> they will be moving to the " X % chance that Y % area will get Z" 16:35 < RangerZ> nationally within 2~3 years or soemthing 16:36 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 16:36 < RangerZ> b/c people seem to understand that better when close to "common" numbers 16:36 <@Mirage> funny..mainly because what i referred to occured in the late 80's 16:36 < RangerZ> lies 16:36 < RangerZ> no one lived out there in the late 80s 16:36 < RangerZ> we only settled there in 2000 16:37 < RangerZ> no one is that old 16:37 < RangerZ> LOL ;) 16:37 < RangerZ> but seriously, they have been doing a lot with psychologists and sociologists and even likely sociopaths... to try and understand why people don't 'get' the weather forecasts 16:38 <@Mirage> I vote that we don't get it because we mostly tune them out due to lack of historical accuracy 16:44 < RangerZ> i vote we all setup webcams to record the rain and share them with aestetix 17:04 < aestetix> I wonder how many people pay for student loans with credit cards 17:07 <@brimstone> ug, student loans 17:07 <@brimstone> get a student loan and people will be knocking down your door to sign you up for more credit 17:07 <@Mirage> i've heard of them...never seen one myseklf 17:08 <@brimstone> i married into student loans and beautiful credit 17:13 < aestetix> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_addiction#South_Korea 17:13 < aestetix> "In 2009, Kim Sa-rang, a 3-month-old Korean child, died from malnutrition after both her parents spent hours each day in an internet cafe raising a virtual child in an online game, Prius Online.[89]" 17:14 < RangerZ> thats just how korea is 17:14 < RangerZ> your suppose to super focus on one thing 17:14 < RangerZ> then if you choose games... you're in trouble otherwise... 17:15 < aestetix> "Ohio teen Daniel Petric shot his parents, killing his mother, after they took away his copy of Halo 3 in October 2007. " 17:26 < aestetix> once again there is something wrong with ohio 17:26 < aestetix> maybe too much petrol in the water 17:29 < RangerZ> nah, its just that it has a shit ton of population 17:30 < RangerZ> its not as bad as FL, with its own fucking fark category 17:30 < RangerZ> lol 18:03 -!- PeteDaGuru [~PeteDaGur@cpe-065-190-015-088.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:19 < RangerZ> hmm time to head home before the storm(s) 18:19 < RangerZ> aestetix: make sure you do the same... ;) 18:19 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-50.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:23 < aestetix> http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/22147/1/julian-assange-will-release-a-wikileaks-clothing-line 18:35 < aestetix> vagina 19:14 <@Shadow404> gahh, i sure hope it doesnt rain tomorrow, i sure would like to ride my motorcycle 19:14 <@Shadow404> aestetix: can we have some of your weather? 19:19 <@Dagmar> It's almost time for Nashville DrownFest 2014 http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/weather/radar/Interactive-Radar-246927201.html 19:19 <@GateKeeper> Title: Interactive Radar from STORM5 HD Weather (at www.jrn.com) 19:21 <@klixa> reddit has ruined freenode 19:24 <@Bahhumbug> Uh... what? 19:25 <@klixa> a lot of people are here that wouldnt be here, just because of reddit... like trashy teen gamer types 19:25 < aestetix> Shadow404: I would love to trade 19:25 < aestetix> right now the only rain I am going to get is from a shower 19:26 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not sure how this affects the network as a whole. If someone is problematic in a channel just ban 'em. 19:26 <@klixa> it affects certain channels i guess 19:28 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has joined #se2600 19:28 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@gerdesas.gerdesas.com] has quit [Changing host] 19:28 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 19:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 19:28 <@klixa> its rains almost all the time here...in Nebraska aestetix 19:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by GateKeeper 19:29 < aestetix> man 19:29 < aestetix> we have had rain exactly once since march 19:29 < aestetix> for about 3 hours 19:31 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 19:31 <@klixa> aestetix: im watching a video about a town where all the wells have dried up, and so people are filling up water jugs, an they show one man filling is and it starts overflwoing cause hes not looking 19:32 <@klixa> you woudl think in that situation, someone would be more careful with water, but noooo 19:33 <@Dagmar> Where's that water going to go? 19:33 <@Dagmar> Think for a moment. 19:34 <@klixa> :P 19:50 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:52 < aestetix> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/augustgermar/anonabox-a-tor-hardware-router 20:01 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01 < Synx|hm> this is a weak storm 20:01 < Synx|hm> im let down 20:01 <@Dagmar> The "good stuff" isn't here yet 20:02 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:03 < Synx|hm> ya nice how its moving just northerly enough to stay for a good while when the meat finally gets here 20:04 <@Dagmar> Yup. 20:04 <@Dagmar> I have my snorkel ready 20:04 < RangerZ> fuck... listened to NPR driving home and going to the store 20:04 < RangerZ> they broke in for like 5~6 times 20:05 < RangerZ> and 2 more Emergency Alert 20:05 <@Dagmar> Go to http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/weather/radar/Interactive-Radar-246927201.html and click "Future". 20:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: Interactive Radar from STORM5 HD Weather (at www.jrn.com) 20:05 < Synx|hm> so, we were watching DVR from i guess last friday 20:05 <@Dagmar> Yes. I'm not allowed to record Gotham without weather alerts all over the screen. 20:05 < Synx|hm> they broken in to say the tornado watch was lifted, we sighed happyness until we realized it was DVR'd 20:06 < RangerZ> going down a laundry list of counties with a "GTFO" warning 20:07 < RangerZ> and for some reason they said people living next to rivers or creeks should watch out for flash flooding 20:07 <@Dagmar> This is going to basically swirl around on top of Nashville until about 6am tomorrow. 20:07 < RangerZ> ....which is half this fucking channel.... 20:07 <@Dagmar> The ground is saturated. 20:07 <@Dagmar> Remember the last time the ground was saturated a storm decided to hang out for aawhile? 20:08 < RangerZ> no 20:08 < Synx|hm> hey anyone know where i can get some good cheap beef back ribs? 20:08 < RangerZ> i only saw the cleanup.... a month later 20:08 < Synx|hm> uncoocked! 20:08 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: yes, but its in ohio 20:08 < Synx|hm> uncooked that is 20:08 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: :( 20:08 < RangerZ> ohh Uncooked 20:08 < RangerZ> corydon should know about that 20:09 < Synx|hm> i asked a guy at the farmers market but he didn't do back ribs, seems nobody does 20:09 < RangerZ> but all of his are cocked 20:09 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: just look for a butcher 20:09 < RangerZ> any small butcher would LOVE to sell you some 20:09 <@Dagmar> ...so... what's with the deviation from canon in The Walking Dead? 20:10 < Synx|hm> RangerZ: i used to ask a butcher in shreveport and i always got the feeling he didn't like to because he prefered to sell bone in ribeye 20:10 < Synx|hm> ill find a local butcher though 20:10 < Synx|hm> i might have to look into just buying into 1/8th a cow 20:14 < RangerZ> Synx|hm: an entire cow can be had for cheap, its the butchering that costs a lot, so if you 'trade' the butcher 1/2~2/3 the cow for your cuts, some will do it 20:14 < Synx|hm> oh interesting 20:15 < Synx|hm> have you done this sort of thing before? 20:15 < RangerZ> there is one back home that'll do that 20:15 < Synx|hm> ill have to get a deep freezer first 20:15 < RangerZ> my g/f had a dairy farm 20:15 < RangerZ> so we could buy cows directly 20:15 < Synx|hm> wow well ill chat with you more about it for sure then 20:15 < Synx|hm> thanks for the heads up 20:15 < RangerZ> i think its 600$ for full female or something (depending on breed/type/what it was fed/etc) 20:16 < Synx|hm> wow not bad 20:16 < RangerZ> "Looking at the income side, the FBM records from 2010 indicate the average weight of calves sold at weaning time was 594 pounds. Using a current price of $158 per hundredweight (cwt) for 600 pound cattle and rounding the weight off at 600 pounds means a weaned calf value of $948." 20:16 < Synx|hm> ok back downstairs 20:20 < RangerZ> https://supporters.eff.org/civicrm/mailing/view?reset=1&id=785 20:20 < RangerZ> ..... 20:20 < RangerZ> "Access denied You are not authorized to access this page." 20:21 < RangerZ> mind you... that link is from EFF's email on how we're facing a new authorization/crypto war 20:21 < RangerZ> and I don't think they did it on purpose 20:22 < RangerZ> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/10/nintendo-updates-take-wii-u-hostage-until-you-agree-new-legal-terms lol 20:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Nintendo Updates Take Wii U Hostage Until You "Agree" to New Legal Terms | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at www.eff.org) 20:24 < aestetix> uh 20:24 < aestetix> RangerZ: is it still doing that? 20:24 < RangerZ> apparently 20:24 < RangerZ> but no one cares really 20:24 < RangerZ> and just clicks 'i agree' 20:24 < aestetix> ok 20:25 < aestetix> I can hit up a friend to fix it if there's an issue 20:25 < RangerZ> b/c honestly its an appliance, not a computer 20:27 < RangerZ> now if WINDOWS or LINUX or my BIOS did that shit 20:27 < RangerZ> I'd have a butcher knife to someone's throat 20:27 < RangerZ> only that wy so the light could gleem off of it at the right angle easier 20:35 < RangerZ> do we have to translate so Dagmar can understand now? *gurggle gurggle gurrrrrrgle?" 20:36 <@Dagmar> The good stuff still isn't here yet 20:36 <@Dagmar> It's power-washing White Bluff right now 20:37 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@69.137.107.2] has joined #se2600 20:40 < RangerZ> ferguson had protests out today in that shit 20:40 < RangerZ> thats some dedication 20:41 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@58.sub-174-254-112.myvzw.com] has joined #se2600 20:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 20:41 < RangerZ> i agree, its all SuMo_D's fault 20:41 < RangerZ> she didn't bring us cookies 20:42 <@SuMo_D> fuck you and your cookies 20:42 * RangerZ keeps quiet b/c anything smartass I say to that is only going to dig a deeper hole 20:43 * RangerZ hugs SuMo_D 20:43 * SuMo_D disappears into a pile smoke before you get there 20:44 < RangerZ> :/ 20:44 < RangerZ> all I wanted was some chocolate chips... and this is what I get 20:44 -!- oddball [4c16a80a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.22.168.10] has joined #se2600 20:45 < oddball> !seen oddball 20:45 <@GateKeeper> oddball: oddball was last seen in #se2600 6 hours, 36 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: Of course, on similar note... Borderlands: the Pre-Sequel comes out soon (tomorrow?) 20:45 < oddball> apparently my house lost power or something. 20:56 < aestetix> god I hate millennials 21:00 < aestetix> The suburbs they all grew up in are like a pandoras box filled with shallow conceit and arrogant entitlement 21:05 <@Dickie> SWEEPING GENERALIZATION 21:05 <@Shadow404> no, its just aestetix 21:11 < oddball> He hates himself. 21:19 <@Shadow404> lack of hydration in the body will do that 21:20 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@58.sub-174-254-112.myvzw.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27 <@Dagmar> hehehe 21:27 <@Dagmar> This week's hitman on Gotham has a day job working in HR. 21:28 < aestetix> lol 21:28 < aestetix> maybe it's not millennials so much as the douchebags that live in the bay area 21:29 < oddball> Now that... I can completely agree with you on. 21:29 < oddball> Wait.... where is it you live again? :p 21:29 < aestetix> hahaha 21:29 < aestetix> soon to be not the bay area 21:45 < oddball> oh? 22:01 < aestetix> yep 22:01 < aestetix> target destination is berlin 22:02 < oddball> Ah, cool 22:05 <@klixa> you're moving to berlin? 22:05 <@klixa> i considered moving ot Germany.. i have dual german/american citizenship 22:09 < aestetix> you should 22:10 < aestetix> It's less "america sucks" and more that berlin has laws that prevent the gentrification issues we're getting here 22:13 <@klixa> what bothers you about gentrification? 22:13 < aestetix> Mostly the economic displacement. 22:13 < aestetix> But there's also a not-so-subtle change in the general cultural attitude. 22:13 < aestetix> And in the bay area, too much penis. 22:14 <@klixa> the bay sucks 22:14 <@klixa> its all crowded ghetto or too expensive for mortals 22:15 < aestetix> yep 22:15 < aestetix> I mean german is kind of a grass is greener thing 22:15 < aestetix> But at least I don't need to work 80 hours a week to pay rent 22:16 <@klixa> its amazing how much a difference a few blocks can make too. I went to the hospital in Oakland back in march for strep. the hospital was dirty, people were yelling and the people that check you in were on their cell phoens not paying any attention. I left, went to the Berkely hospital. super clean, everuyone was nice, attentive, etc 22:16 <@klixa> and they were maybe a mile apart 22:17 <@klixa> i dont think its a grass is greaner, everyone there has a fairly high standard of living, college is free, etc 22:17 <@klixa> the only reason i havent done it, is because im afraid to fly and i dont speak german anymore 22:18 < aestetix> and health care 22:18 < RangerZ> aestetix: you could literally work 2/3rds as much as you do now, and live a higher standard of living in ANY state capitol other than california 22:18 <@klixa> school is efiantely better... i started school in germany before miving back here 22:19 < RangerZ> also... the NJ school that was doing the 'hazing' in the Football team are having team members charged with felonies of sexaul assualt and false imprisonment 22:19 <@klixa> the bay is the most expesnive place i have ever lived in this country 22:19 <@klixa> LA is much cheaper even 22:20 <@klixa> i love the geography in cali, but i hate the people, prices, attitude, etc 22:21 -!- oddball [4c16a80a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.22.168.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:21 < aestetix> klixa: you mean the shallow supercifical arrogance? 22:22 <@klixa> yes 22:22 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: Fucking A. About time. 22:22 <@klixa> everyone thinks they are better than everyone else in the bay 22:23 <@klixa> but also, otehr stuff, like people dont celbrate christmas really... probably beause everyone is an atheist... everyone is very self centrered, materialistic, etc 22:24 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: it only came out last week, and the DA was taking their time and making sure they had the right people 22:24 < RangerZ> etc 22:24 < RangerZ> but yes 22:24 <@Bahhumbug> I find not celebrating a fake and contrived holiday a step in the right direction. 22:24 < RangerZ> I'm really glad how the schoolboard and the police/DA taking this seriously 22:24 <@klixa> Bahhumbug: i like holiays 22:24 <@klixa> i like festivals/parties that break up the monotony 22:25 <@klixa> actually, lack of winter is probably why there is no xmas...the winter is depressing in almost all of cali cause its like a cold summer 22:26 < aestetix> klixa: everyone is an "atheist" 22:26 < aestetix> which means they haven't actually considered theologic ideas and crafted arguments against them 22:26 < aestetix> they just get mad when you say the word "god" 22:28 < aestetix> they are like .... as feminist is to fauxminist, atheist is to what they are 22:28 <@klixa> im not sure places like here ar ebetter thom everyone is a narrow minded christian and fay 22:28 <@klixa> fat* 22:29 < aestetix> heh 22:29 < aestetix> I keep hearing that everyone in your place goes to church every week 22:29 < aestetix> That doesn't compute for me 22:29 <@klixa> we went to kripsy kreme yesterday to get 3 donuts...1 each...and there was this family all getting a dozen each 22:29 <@klixa> the 9 year old was prolly 350 pounds 22:29 <@klixa> i had a 'omg we need to move back to cali" moment 22:29 < aestetix> hello diabetes 22:30 < aestetix> how can they have that much sugar 22:30 <@klixa> ya know, there are some people with diabtes that just take extra insulin and keep eating crazy 22:31 <@klixa> people do that with heartbirn too..the commercial for prilosec annoys me...i yell at it 22:31 < aestetix> uh 22:31 <@klixa> "take prilosec so you can still enjoy all your fav foods and overeat" 22:31 < aestetix> isn't diabetes your body's way of telling you to ease off the sugar? 22:31 <@klixa> and im all "NO, heartburn is a sign form your body saying dont eat that" 22:31 <@klixa> diabetes is yoru body's wyay of saying you failed at staying off too much sugar 22:32 <@klixa> i have a friend right now who is pre-diabetic 22:32 <@klixa> i told him to change his diet 22:32 <@klixa> and he was all "i cant, i will just have to take insulin :(" 22:32 < aestetix> what are the symptoms of being pre-diabetic 22:32 <@klixa> he makes me sick sometimes 22:32 <@klixa> having high blood sugar but not quite high enough to be officially diabetic 22:32 <@klixa> thats what pre-diabetic is 22:33 < aestetix> I imagine the life expectancy there is low 22:34 <@klixa> with insuling, you can live a normal lifespan usually 22:34 <@klixa> insulin* 22:34 <@klixa> my grandfather made it to 70 with diabetes, my father made it to 83 which is lomger, but 70 isnt bad 22:35 <@klixa> and he was liek 400 pounds most of his life 22:35 <@klixa> so, you never really know with lifespans 22:35 < aestetix> how can you weigh 400 pounds 22:36 <@klixa> plenty of people do 22:36 < aestetix> isn't that morbidly obese? 22:36 <@klixa> i net a woman in humbdt who weighed 600 pounds and was 52 22:36 <@klixa> humboldt* 22:36 <@klixa> met* 22:37 <@klixa> i wondered how she was still living 22:41 <@Dickie> depends on how tall you are 22:48 -!- GateKeeper [~gatekeepr@serentos/support/bot] has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:48 -!- GateKeeper [~gatekeepr@serentos/support/bot] has joined #se2600 22:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GateKeeper] by ChanServ 22:48 -!- ShadowHn1r [~alex@ec2-54-235-164-175.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #se2600 22:48 -!- Shadow405 [~shadow404@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 22:50 -!- frsilent_ [~frsilent@198.91.88.88] has joined #se2600 22:50 -!- critch_ [~critch@smart.drunkenlogic.com] has joined #se2600 22:54 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @rhia, @critch, frsilent, @Shadow404, @ZombieChicken, @northrup, ShadowHntr 22:59 -!- Netsplit over, joins: rhia 22:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 23:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ZombieChicken 23:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ZombieChicken] by ChanServ 23:07 < RangerZ> 'morbid obese' can be 5'11" and 280lbs now 23:08 < RangerZ> they changed the scale like 15 years ago to make you morbidly obese easier 23:08 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 23:14 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 23:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 23:18 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-76-22-246-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 23:21 -!- northrup [northrup@link.8bitwizard.net] has joined #se2600 23:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o northrup] by ChanServ 23:27 < aestetix> Do fat people poop less? 23:28 <@Evilpig> no 23:28 < aestetix> Then where does it all go 23:28 <@oddball> Well, that's not good. All 4 of my 3TB drives are now reporting that they have 3 partitions on them instead of the 1 that they should have. 23:28 <@Evilpig> wtf? 23:28 < aestetix> uhhh lvm issue? 23:29 <@Evilpig> you've had the worst luck with that shit 23:29 <@oddball> Nope. Not running lvm. 23:29 <@Evilpig> we learned something at disneyland today. Every park needs to adopt the "single rider" line 23:30 <@Evilpig> some of the rides that seat multiple people but would often have a seat or two left over from groups... they now have a filler line of people riding alone 23:30 <@oddball> Just running them as a bunch of individual drives. 23:30 <@Evilpig> wait line 60 - 80 minutes, single rider wait time 10 min 23:30 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1luw8jcqblv4g8q/2014-10-13%2015.11.16.jpg?dl=0 23:32 <@Evilpig> if that weird ticket wasn't enough proof I was at disney. https://www.dropbox.com/s/jse2zixp6h4wsn6/2014-10-13%2015.02.54.jpg?dl=0 23:32 < RangerZ> are you the one in the oversized baby carriage? 23:32 < aestetix> http://kittystryker.com/2014/03/kitty-strykers-illustrated-guide-to-dick-pics/ (nsfw) 23:34 < RangerZ> "michael: Dell, NASBA and Ingram Content Group are looking for candidates like you." 23:34 < RangerZ> first of all... I know people who have worked at all three... and one one liked any of them 23:34 < RangerZ> s/one one/no one 23:48 <@Evilpig> btw LOL at PN. they announce a code of conduct and immediately get people irritated by it 23:48 <@Evilpig> nobody saw that coming, not one bit... nope. 23:48 < aestetix> oh? 23:48 < aestetix> Evilpig: link 23:49 <@Dagmar> Yes, truly 23:49 <@oddball> Wait.... people are bitching about it again? 23:50 <@oddball> Not that I blame them, but... 23:50 <@Evilpig> it's on facebook 23:50 <@Dagmar> Where? 23:50 <@Evilpig> https://www.facebook.com/phreaknic/posts/871059049591846?comment_id=871230736241344&reply_comment_id=871251292905955&offset=0&total_comments=4&ref=notif¬if_t=share_comment 23:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Content Not Found (at www.facebook.com) 23:50 <@Dickie> Can 6 year olds still play GTA V for 48 straight hours? 23:51 <@Evilpig> So we're going to simultaneously discuss the 2nd Amendment while restricting it at the con? Nice. Let's restrict the 1st Amendment and the 21st Amendment as well. Please don't forget to restrict parking at the hotel, take away the right to use forks and remove all the sodas from the machines. Please ensure Phreaknic is IAW Tennessee State Code for prohibition of firearms for the entire duration. I'll follow the law if you will. 23:51 < aestetix> screenshots plz 23:51 <@Evilpig> Dickie: not unless someone provides an xbox, 23:52 <@Dagmar> Sheesh. Ther'es a hotline now 23:53 <@oddball> Apparently there's been a hotline for a while. It's just that no one knew about it. 23:54 < aestetix> can someone make a screenshot? 23:54 <@Dagmar> I find it amusing that they managed to hit Samolis' personal hot button with that 23:54 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5iqtjqplk24lye6/Screen%20Shot%202014-10-13%20at%208.54.18%20PM.png?dl=0 23:54 <@Evilpig> The other funny thing there is now saying tom is the founder rather than dru 23:55 <@Dagmar> What? Where? 23:55 <@Evilpig> see screenshot 23:55 <@oddball> I love Dru's "well, we don't really mean it" message that he apparently gave Decius. 23:55 <@Evilpig> and, same link 23:55 <@Evilpig> if we didn't mean it, then we shouldn't have put it up 23:55 <@Evilpig> period, the end. you know like it was stated in here many many many times 23:55 <@oddball> yep 23:56 <@Evilpig> the fact that it is getting backlash is exactly what we said would happen 23:56 <@Dagmar> Weird. I'm looking a the page and I can't see TOm's post 23:56 <@Evilpig> someone immediately started looking for a loophole and/or exageration 23:56 < aestetix> What does "boost post" do? 23:56 <@Evilpig> you can pay to make it show to more people 23:56 < aestetix> uh 23:56 <@oddball> Hell, I'm now tempted to show up lawfully carrying just to see what happens. 23:56 < aestetix> Can you choose who? 23:57 <@Evilpig> maybe 23:57 <@Evilpig> don't know, don't care 23:57 < aestetix> I wonder if I could pay to get goatse shown to 1000 people 23:57 <@Dagmar> I wonder if he already deleted it 23:57 <@oddball> I think the "boost" is to everyone that's actually following the group. 23:58 <@oddball> Otherwise, it only shows it to x number of folks. 23:58 <@oddball> And I'm pretty sure the "long discussion" happened at one of the secret meetings. 23:59 <@Evilpig> all the public discussions of it were "don't do it" 23:59 <@Dagmar> Yep 23:59 <@oddball> So... on another infuriating note... anyone have any good experiences with software to restore borked linux partitions? (I think ext3) --- Log closed Tue Oct 14 00:00:01 2014