--- Log opened Fri Oct 03 00:00:12 2014
00:03 < RangerZ> eryc: stop it, my joke was funnier when not fact-checked
00:04 < RangerZ> lol
00:27 < RangerZ> and thank god TN isn't TX at least
00:27 < RangerZ> TX is just fucking up this ebola stuff
00:29 <@SuMo_D> I made it to ATL and didn't die
00:30 <@SuMo_D> woot!
00:30 < aestetix> https://news.vice.com/article/former-top-official-says-kim-jong-un-is-no-longer-in-control-of-north-korea?utm_source=vicenewstwitter
00:31 <@SuMo_D> hmmm that'll get interesting if its true
00:31 < RangerZ> i hope so, they just need to give in and become part of SK
00:33 < RangerZ> just imagine the tourism they would have with their unicorn grave
00:33 < RangerZ> ...and i'm not making that up...
00:33 < RangerZ> lol
00:53 < aestetix> holy shit
00:53 < aestetix> I finally beat 2048
01:02 < timoguin> You got 2049?
01:02 < aestetix> lol
01:17 < RangerZ> nah
01:17 < RangerZ> he stopped playing
01:17  * timoguin grabs phone
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01:39 <@Dagmar> One word: Hilbert.
01:55 < aestetix> http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a31740/woman-grows-potato-inside-vag/
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02:39 <@Dagmar> If you were expecting rational sex information from Cosmo, think again
02:57 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGZax7XCQHQ LOL
02:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: Do These Porn Viewing Habits Surprise You? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:57 < RangerZ> _of course_
03:11 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuoboTvpDUc so.... looks like a 'usable' desktop OS
03:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Windows 10: Its Actually Not Terrible - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:11 < RangerZ> but I don't like the Internet integration of Internet with 'search'
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03:14 <@Dagmar> That's okay.  I don't like what I'm about to have to do to make this channel changer work
03:15 <@Dagmar> The thing only seems to like four-digit chennsl
03:15 <@Dagmar> er channels
03:15 <@Dagmar> I try to record 231 (WZTV) or similar, and I get 234 (BounceTV)
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03:16 <@Dagmar> ...yet I can record 1225 (BBAHD) just fine every time
03:17 < RangerZ2> 0231?
03:17 <@Dagmar> SURELY THEY JEST
03:17 < RangerZ2> what?
03:17 <@Dagmar> The retarded thing is doing the wrong channels on it's own
03:17 <@Dagmar> Like, I scheduled a two minute recording
03:18 <@Dagmar> ...then started running 6200ch invocations myself
03:18 <@Dagmar> I can see it going "234" and then going to _235_
03:18 <@Dagmar> Dafuq has comcast done
03:18 <@Dagmar> Imma powercycle the fucking cable box
03:19 < RangerZ2> yeah... who knows, good news is that we'll get _comcast_ cable standards here soon
03:19 < RangerZ2> since FCC doens't give a rats ass about consumers
03:24 <@Dagmar> The guide on the cable box is missing the channels I'm supposed to have, or thought I have
03:24 <@Dagmar> damn these people
03:29 <@Dagmar> This is why I started making the monthly call to annoy them
03:29 <@Dagmar> They're moving the channels around and not telling listing providers
03:30 <@Dagmar> ...and mythtv is being helpful by having a failtacular search function
03:37 <@Dagmar> I guess I'll login to SchedulesDirect tomorrow and manually disable those channels
03:38 <@Dagmar> Oh motherfucker
03:40 < RangerZ2> hehe
03:40 < RangerZ2> that can't be good
03:41 <@Dagmar> Damn there's a channel editor in the web interface which is completely not working
03:42 <@Dagmar> Since the goddamn thing works by _callsign_ when I tell it to record WZTVHD on 1006, it just happily slides hte schedule back down to 233.
03:44 <@Dagmar> *incoherent rage*
03:44 <@Dagmar> Schedules Direct *is* updated
03:46 <@Dagmar> Okay... lemme run mythfilldatabase with some special arguments
03:47 < RangerZ2> lol
03:47 < RangerZ2> THIS is why I don't have a mythTV box
03:47 < RangerZ2> i tried to set one up a couple of years ago
03:47 < RangerZ2> and just said fuck it... I'll use torrents
03:47 <@Dagmar> honestly bullshit like this is why I went back to piracy for a bit
03:47 <@Dagmar> The MythTV people would probably get mad if I rewrote this fucking schedule updater in perl
03:48 < RangerZ2> even now, i pay the subscription to watch anime on crunchyroll with no ads and at the first release date
03:48 < RangerZ2> and I just download the mkv file, b/c its easier to watch
03:52 < RangerZ2> Dagmar: this will help
03:52 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j46ll2_jR7k
03:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Hula Hoop Dancer - Lisa Lottie - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:52 < RangerZ2> I don't like dreads on a girl... but I can always make exceptions....
03:53 < RangerZ2> and youtube suggestions randomly pics some interesting things, lol
03:54 < RangerZ2> those hips....
03:55 <@Dagmar> Now to try a different invocation of mythfilldatabase
03:59 <@Dagmar> I'm about to get in there and drop a few fuckin' tables
04:03 <@Dagmar> It doesnt' help that mythfilldatabase takes many minutes to run
04:05 <@Dagmar> I am pretty sure the blame for this falls squarely on Qt
04:06 < RangerZ1> huh?
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04:06 <@Dagmar> The thing has to parse like 4Mb of text and turn it into SQL calls and it takes 8 bloody minutes
04:06 <@Dagmar> It is slow as crap
04:06 < RangerZ> instantiating the DB itself? or filling it with data
04:06 <@Dagmar> Both
04:06 < RangerZ> wow
04:07 < RangerZ> yeah... _thats wrong_
04:07 <@Dagmar> This should be doable in like three minutes, easily
04:07 < RangerZ> in a few seconds with that little data
04:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah and they wanted to do it in C++ with Qt shit
04:07 < RangerZ> I can do it on a fucking android phone in under 3 seconds
04:07 <@Dagmar> ...and there's like 0.02% comments
04:08 < RangerZ> ....
04:09 <@Dagmar> Yeah those guys don't really seem to grasp the idea of writing good comments
04:11 <@Dagmar> I started this run at 2014-10-03 02:57:43.327427
04:11 < RangerZ> I'm not kidding, we inserted something like 5mb of _every_ WIC qualifying item at Kroger and Walmart in TN, into a DB on android 4.0 devices
04:11 < RangerZ> it took less than 1 second
04:12 <@Dagmar> Oh I know this should be much, much, MUCH faster than it is
04:12 < RangerZ> Ohh i bet I know what they are doing
04:12 < RangerZ> 'single insert's per DB connection... instead of bulk inserts
04:12 <@Dagmar> Nope
04:13 <@Dagmar> It literally spends five minutes just chewing on the data before issuing mysql commands
04:13 < RangerZ> ....
04:14 <@Dagmar> Oh my god
04:14 < RangerZ> doing what
04:14 <@Dagmar> It's so aweosme it duplicated channels.
04:14 <@Dickie> HI IT'S LATE I'M AWAKE
04:14  * Dickie wiggles
04:15 <@Dagmar> Time for the Solution Of Awesomeness
04:15 < RangerZ> not as well as the british girl with the hoops from the link above
04:15 <@Dagmar> I will delete the motherfucking data source and build a new one
04:29 <@Dagmar> Okay.  SOMEHOW the channels are still coming down in the feed from SchedulesDirect
04:34 < RangerZ2> so if anyone is a fan of high quality animation & animation legends http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-02/madman-licenses-gundam-reconguista-in-g-to-stream-on-animelab/.79471
04:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Madman Licenses Gundam Reconguista In G to Stream on AnimeLab - News - Anime News NetworkAnime News Network (at www.animenewsnetwork.com)
04:35 < RangerZ2> the original creator of Gundam is making a new series, with a bunch of industry big shots
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04:59 <@Dagmar> I genuinely don't think the MythBuntu people have any idea what they're doing
05:00 <@Dagmar> MythWeb wouldn't update anything bcause the number of items PHP would accept in a post was still set to the default max of 1000
05:00 <@Dagmar> So anyone with more than 200 channels is just shit out of luck
05:16 <@Dagmar> Looks like I get to submit an update to SchedulesDirect later this weekend
05:17 <@Dagmar> I just noticed Doctor Who is categorized as "Science / Nature" instead of "Sci-Fi / Fantasy"
05:17 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Maybe this fucker will record everything now like it's supposed to
05:17 <@Dagmar> Either way, I'm getting in bed
05:17 <@Dagmar> Fuck it
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05:29 < RangerZ2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3cxsm2v88 lol @ this reasoning
05:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Windows 10 Name Likely Due to 20-Year Old Software Code - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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07:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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10:33 <@Wilpig> predictable field tech
10:33 <@Wilpig> "everything looks fine on our end sir.  oh, you aren't using our modem.  here's your problem"
10:33 <@Wilpig> nope.  just nope.
10:33 <@Wilpig> fuckface.  700ms response on a ping to google is not okay, this is not acceptable
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10:43 <@CRasH180> 700ms?
10:45 <@Wilpig> ping response
10:46 <@Wilpig> that was the fastest one, the avg was closer to 1s
10:52 <@Bahhumbug> You act like you want sub-second response to icmp replies.
10:53 <@CRasH180> Yeah, I knew what it was. Just was suprised to see such a lengthy response
10:53 <@Bahhumbug> g'mourning CRasH180
10:55 <@CRasH180> good mourning to you as well. By the way, who are we mourning?
10:56 <@Bahhumbug> Common sense.  It is apparently dead and buried.
10:59 <@Wilpig> playing this super smash bros i'm realizing that i've done a number on my slider on this.  it keeps hanging
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11:01 <@CRasH180> Ahh, did not know
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11:02 <@CRasH180> SuperSmash Brothers looks like a fun game. Want to buy that one next. We have been playing the hell out of Mario Kart 8
11:03 <@Wilpig> I've been playing hyrule warriors the last few days as well.  not sure it's gonna have a lot of replayablilty like smash bros or mario kart but it's been fun hacking and slashing at shit
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11:06 <@CRasH180> Hyrule does look like a fun one as well
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11:33 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.pcjs.org/configs/pc/machines/5160/cga/256kb/win101/
11:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: pcjs.org | /configs/pc/machines/5160/cga/256kb/win101/ (at www.pcjs.org)
11:40 <@eryc> Wilpig: have them bring out their modem and see if the problem goes away
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11:42 <@Wilpig> they replaced a filter outside the house and the latency dropped to 65ms
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11:43 <@Dolemite> A filter?  I thought you ahd fiber?
11:43 <@Wilpig> my parents
11:44 <@Dolemite> ah
11:44 <@Dolemite> Are you in Cali aready?
11:44 <@Wilpig> ni
11:44 <@Wilpig> no
11:44 <@Wilpig> this is my parents house in west ky
11:44 <@Dolemite> Gotcha
11:44 <@eryc> 65ms is horrible
11:45 <@Wilpig> att dude replaced the modem, blamed their direct tv, blamed the access point
11:45 <@Wilpig> disconnected all that, and still had 700ms - 1s pings
11:45 <@eryc> did you laugh in his face
11:45 <@Wilpig> replaced the filter outside the house and down to 65ms which is fine for BFE
11:46 <@Wilpig> if I was there I would have been out in teh driveway deflating his tires telling him he'd get his air back when he fixed the problem
11:58 <@Wilpig> o.O  http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/264dlr/i_am_sloane_steel_and_i_work_at_bang_bros_a_porn/chniwbk
11:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: hulksmash1991 comments on I am Sloane Steel and I work at Bang Bros, a porn company, AMA! (at www.reddit.com)
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12:18 < aestetix> Wilpig: you're coming to cali?
12:19 <@Wilpig> yup
12:19 <@Wilpig> might even be coming up to the bay
12:19 < aestetix> my sympathies
12:19 <@Wilpig> my dad is pretty set on going but I think that might change
12:22 <@shapr> ooh, neat feature of GNU date: date -d "next Wednesday"
12:22 <@shapr> I didn't know about that
12:25 < aestetix> you know
12:25 < aestetix> I have never understood why managing dates is so fucking hard
12:25 < aestetix> in programming and in databases
12:27 <@opticron> because dates are stupid
12:29 <@opticron> and a proper date lib has to handle different calendars, leap days, leap seconds, lack of 0BC and other things
12:29 <@Bahhumbug> shapr: The input format for -d is fairly complex; info date has all the gory details.
12:29 < aestetix> opticron: if I had my way everyone would just use epoch time
12:30 < aestetix> it seems like all the different databases store datetimes in different ways
12:31 <@shapr> Bahhumbug: whoa, lots of cool stuff in info date
12:32 <@shapr> 1 year ago, tomorrow, yesterday
12:32 <@shapr> interesting that this thursday and next thursday give the same value
12:33 <@Bahhumbug> I hacked it way back when to support things like "last friday of month"; I can't locate it now though.
12:33 <@shapr> aw, would be a fun feature to add
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12:53 <@Wilpig> haha
12:53 <@Wilpig> beer pong on thursday
12:53 <@Wilpig> tumblr vs giphy
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13:08 < aestetix> http://valleywag.gawker.com/buying-tumblr-was-a-big-mistake-says-everyone-but-yaho-1641725861
13:09 < aestetix> sorry Wilpig
13:17 <@Wilpig> it's nothing really
13:18 <@Wilpig> people speculating on the business that tumblr is doing without anything to back it
13:18 <@Wilpig> as an insider I can say that our revenue stream has increased tremendously over the last year and they're keeping that quiet 
13:46 <@Dagmar>  BUSTED http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2014/db1003/DA-14-1444A1.pdf
13:47 <@Wilpig> good deal.  fuck them
13:47 <@Wilpig> forcing people to buy internet from them for shit
13:54 <@eryc> http://i.imgur.com/BJqIq3t.gif
13:56 <@Mirage> Wilpig: is it just me, or was "The Signal" rather lame?
13:57 <@Dagmar> Very
13:57 <@Dagmar> It would just barely make it as a Syfy late nighter
13:59 <@Mirage> I was very much reminded of "The 13th Floor" after he woke up.
14:01 <@Mirage> I guess the one I'm thinking of has 13th spelled out.. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/
14:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Thirteenth Floor (1999) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
14:04 <@Mirage> The celebs suing Google is funny.  The comments on /. reminded me of this old Bloom County strip: http://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/1986/06/22/
14:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bloom County Comic Strip, June 22, 1986 on GoComics.com (at www.gocomics.com)
14:05 <@Mirage> and yes, I fully realize how sick and demented I am for remembering a newspaper comic strip from 1986
14:06 <@Bahhumbug> What celebs suing google for what?
14:06 <@Bahhumbug> (I live under a rock lately)
14:07 <@Wilpig> Mirage: it was weird
14:07 <@Mirage> An unnamed group of hollywood celebs are suing google because they feel that it helped in perpetuating the dessimination of leaked nude photos.
14:07 <@eryc> they are suing for indexing the nudes
14:08 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, fuck them.
14:08 <@Bahhumbug> Stop taking nude photos.
14:08 <@Bahhumbug> End Of Problem
14:08 <@Mirage> oh..for $100 million
14:08 <@eryc> i believe they've already been fucked
14:08 <@Bahhumbug> Fucking crybabies.
14:08 <@eryc> the proof is all over jlaw's face
14:09 <@Mirage> Bahhumbug: my group is catching hell because we refuse to patch AS3 hosts for shellshock.
14:10 <@Mirage> Bahhumbug: they're just lucky we patched the AS4/EL4 boxes
14:12 <@Mirage> Actually my response was that if they could provide me with a dev box to build an updated bash rpm on, that I would be more than happy to get it taken care of.   They said they couldn't do it and that it should be our responsibility.
14:12 <@eryc> its really not a big deal
14:13 <@eryc> its 1 file
14:13 <@eryc> man up pussy
14:13 <@Bahhumbug> I've still got el3 builder vm images archived on disk that I need to nuke; none of my clients are still running that junk any longer.
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14:25 <@Mirage> Bahhumbug: this client still has AS3 prod hosts, but have decom'd all the dev/test hosts and don't have any way to deploy new ones.  They also didn't keep an archive of the satellite channel
14:26 <@Mirage> granted the don't have too many AS3 hosts, but IMO anything greater than zero is too many
14:26 <@Bahhumbug> Sucks to be them.
14:26 <@Bahhumbug> Indeed.
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14:29 <@eryc> pussy
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15:06 <@NotLarry> Anyone living in Atlanta?
15:07 <@brimstone> define "living"
15:08 <@NotLarry> I'm going to the boc show tomorrow night.  Might be looking for a rest stop, or a chance to visit:)
15:08 <@brimstone> boc?
15:08 <@eryc> do you put out
15:08 <@brimstone> not coming down for maker faire?
15:08 <@NotLarry> And by "visit" I don't mean the kind of "visit" Dickie has in mind.
15:08 <@brimstone> NotLarry puts out
15:08 <@brimstone> ... the trash
15:08 <@NotLarry> When is the fair?  I've been swamped at work.
15:09 <@brimstone> it's tomorrow
15:09 <@brimstone> and sunday
15:09 <@NotLarry> ok, yeah.
15:09 <@brimstone> it's in a new location
15:09 <@NotLarry> sec
15:11 <@NotLarry> sweet, registered
15:12 <@NotLarry> So, I may need two nights stay.
15:14 <@NotLarry> Shit, how do I post to groups?
15:14 <@NotLarry> If I'm gonna be at the makers fair I should take some phreaknic swag down to hand out right?
15:14 <@NotLarry> or a flier or two?
15:15 <@Bahhumbug> boc as in Blue Oyster Cult?
15:15 <@brimstone> if you got it, flaunt it
15:15 <@NotLarry> Yeah, sorry.
15:16 <@Bahhumbug> I hate you.  That's one of the banks I always wanted to see back in the day and things just never worked out to where I could.
15:16 <@Bahhumbug> Err, bands, too.
15:18 <@NotLarry> I got picks backstage with them the last time.  John Shirly wrote songs for our band and writes for them, so it was pretty cool.
15:18 <@NotLarry> s/picks/pics
15:19 <@NotLarry> So, who has a place for me to crash in Atlanta tonight and tomorrow night?
15:24 <@oddball> So... if I made an attempt at a rasberry pie drink for phreaknic, would folks be interested?
15:25 <@NotLarry> Sorry, I got distracted and didn't catch anything you said after "drink."
15:26 <@oddball> I'm already planning on making more apple pie (seemed popular), and will probably make some peach pie.
15:27 <@oddball> I found a recipe for a pumpkin pie "moonshine," but... uh... not sure how well that one would work.
15:27 <@Wilpig> time to head to the show.  later folks
15:28 <@Wilpig> i'll be back later probably with some hearing loss
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15:33 <@Bahhumbug> NotLarry: If you get pics this time aroumd I'd like to see them.
15:35 <@Bahhumbug> I always admired Cult; they didn't buy into the commercial side of music the way most bands of that era did (hence the limited airplay for most Cult songs sans Reaper, Godzilla and the only real commercial pop track they ever laid down, Burning for You, for the most part).
15:39 <@Mirage> NotLarry: what movie was it that you and the boys were extras in?  "The Cursed"?
15:41 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: I thought you weren't going?
15:42 <@Bahhumbug> Or at least thinking about not going.
15:42 <@oddball> I'm still a bit on the fence.
15:42 <@oddball> I'm going to see how the meeting goes tonight.
15:43 <@Bahhumbug> Are Dagmar and RangerZ going?
15:43 <@oddball> From the sound of it, if I have been at the meeting last month, I would have walked away from it all.
15:43 <@Bahhumbug> If so, it should be entertaining at least.
15:43 <@oddball> To the meeting tonight?  I believe so.
15:43 <@Bahhumbug> Someone _really_ should either stream it or at least record it.
15:44 < RangerZ> i'm going, problem with that is the fact its in a coffee shop that sells bee
15:44 < RangerZ> beer* too
15:45 <@Bahhumbug> So?
15:45 <@Bahhumbug> Wtf has that to do with anything?
15:45 <@oddball> Afraid you'll start pounding them down?
15:46 < RangerZ> no
15:46 < RangerZ> i have to drive
15:46 < RangerZ> so no drinks
15:47 <@oddball> So... what's the problem?
15:47 < RangerZ> just that the audio would be shit, unless Dagmar decides to be a fucker and bring studio level equipment...
15:47 <@oddball> ah, gotcha
15:48 < RangerZ> at the auditorium i worked at, we had wide area floor mics... they were 3k
15:48 <@Dagmar> You'd really be amazed at how well an Android cell phone can act as a recording device
15:48 <@Bahhumbug> Go to Vandy.  Find a directional mic.  Aim at speakers.
15:48 <@Bahhumbug> Or that, yeah.
15:48 <@Bahhumbug> Most can do some decent amounts of background filtering.
15:48 < RangerZ> who said anything about recording with the audio equipment, i meant hitting people over the head with it... it'll ruin the equipment
15:49 < RangerZ> lol
15:49 <@Dagmar> For that I'd take the advice of GG Allin.  Shure mics are best.
15:50 <@Bahhumbug> Isn't that the brand he stuck up his ass?
15:50 <@Dagmar> ...and beat himself in the head until bloody.
15:50 <@Dagmar> ...both before and after sticking it up his ass.
15:50 <@Bahhumbug> No major loss.
15:51 <@Bahhumbug> That guy was a walking trainrwreck.
15:51 <@CRasH180> Shurass Mics. We poo for you!
15:51 <@Dagmar> If it weren't such a horrorshow, Shure could have used that to promote their products.
15:51 <@Dagmar> "Our mics can withstand GG Allin and keep working.  Can yours?"
15:53 < aestetix> penis
15:54 <@CRasH180> sinep
15:54 <@oddball> Oh, on similar note... If you own a smart watch, I would recommend leaving it at home before going to any concerts.  Apparently the mic in the phone will eat itself dealing with the high volume levels.
15:55 <@oddball> Apparenlty Wizard has gone through three dealing with the noise at the gun range.
15:55 < aestetix> oddball: you'd think that would be self evident
15:55 < aestetix> Can't you just disable the mic?
15:55 <@oddball> On mine, yes.
15:55 <@oddball> Apparenlty on the one that Google sells directly, not so much.
15:55 <@oddball> And everytime you raise your wrist, it wakes up.
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16:04 < aestetix> why would someone wear a smartwatch, anyways?
16:06 <@Dickie> ladies
16:06 <@NotLarry> Mirage: might have been
16:08 <@CRasH180> Have a good weekend all
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16:18 <@oddball> aestetix: eh... I've found it nice to have.  Not sure I would have shelled out the $300 for one, but... (mine was a gift)
16:19 <@opticron> oddball, the mic actually gets destroyed?
16:20 <@oddball> yep
16:20 <@Mirage> NotLarry:
16:20 <@Mirage> Filming Locations:
16:20 <@Mirage> McMinnville, Tennessee, USA
16:20 <@oddball> Apparenlty they failed to set up anything to turn it off if it detected a noise level above x.
16:21 <@opticron> uhhh...
16:21 <@Mirage> NotLarry: The reason I mentioned it is that it will be on SyFy this Sunday
16:22 <@opticron> why would turning off a mic prevent it from getting destroyed under extreme audio conditions?
16:23 <@Bahhumbug> Not passing current?
16:24 <@opticron> well, I guess that would depend on whether the damage is mechanical to the mems device or electrical to the FET inside the powered mic
16:25 <@Bahhumbug> I was assuming electrical.
16:28 <@oddball> Yeah... pretty sure the mic on these things are pezo-electric.
16:28 <@oddball> Which means there's a decent chance that shutting down would save them from damage.
16:29 <@oddball> Either that, or Samsung used really shitty mics.
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16:34 <@Mirage> lol http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/14/10/03/1754236/marriott-fined-600000-for-jamming-guest-hotspots
16:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Marriott Fined $600,000 For Jamming Guest Hotspots - Slashdot (at mobile.slashdot.org)
16:34 <@Mirage> "The fine comes after staff at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel and Convention Center in Nashville, Tennessee were found to be jamming individual hotspots and then charging people up to $1,000 per device to get online."
16:34 < aestetix> oddball: oh ok that makes sense
16:36 <@oddball> Up to $1k per device?  Jesus.
16:36 <@Mirage> Given the location, I'm not suprised
16:37 <@eryc> *shrug* convention centers, unions, expected
16:37 <@Dickie> and no one set the building on fire?
16:37 <@eryc> its the same price at other convention centers too
16:37 <@Mirage> Dickie: god smote them with rain, but they recovered.
16:38 <@Dickie> heh
16:38 < aestetix> https://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cia_kryptos_sculpture/KRYPTOS_Summary.pdf
16:38 <@eryc> the file probably has malware
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16:39 <@oddball> eryc: You've seen hotels/convention centers charging $1k per device?  Granted, I would guess that this was over the period of multiple days, but....
16:41 <@oddball> I don't really remember a conference lasting more than a week, which would mean ~$140-$200 a day (5-7days)
16:44 <@Corydon76> oddball: Marriott's response is pretty brazen.  Instead of apologizing, they stated their intent to have the rules changed, so they could continue blocking hotspots
16:44 <@oddball> yay!
16:45 <@Corydon76> You know what the response should be... Engineering small devices that block guests from connecting to Marriott's Wifi network, and scattering them around the hotel
16:45 <@oddball> heh
16:46 <@Corydon76> Make sure that guests' hotspots are the ONLY thing that work for the duration...
16:47 <@Corydon76> You know how many people would be demanding refunds for Wifi access that doesn't work?
16:51 <@Corydon76> oddball: you see that Studio A was just re-sold?
16:52 <@Corydon76> http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/archives/2014/10/03/mystery-buyer-saves-studio-a
16:52 < aestetix> I have a new love for luks
16:54 <@oddball> Yeah.  Just saw that a few minutes ago.
16:54 <@oddball> Glad to hear.  If nothing else, the area doesn't need any more god damned condos.
16:56 <@oddball> The two construction sites currently in the Vandy area for new high rise condos is proof that the zoning board can be easily bought.
17:06 <@Corydon76> oddball: and the more that area gets built up, the scarcer cheap parking will be, meaning we'll need to start looking at moving the 2600 meeting once again.
17:06 <@oddball> Well, there's that too.
17:06 <@Corydon76> I'm sure it's only a matter of time before JJ's is sold and razed to put in yet another condo building
17:07 < aestetix> Is Nashville having the same thing happen to it? Where all the old stuff is being ripped down and replaced with buildings for rich people?
17:07 <@Corydon76> Yep
17:07 < aestetix> That's going to increase the cost of living.
17:08 <@Corydon76> and then as those buildings get run down, the price drops to where the middle class can afford it, and then still further, it becomes the slums, and then it gets torn down and replaced with another building for the rich
17:08 <@Corydon76> Cycle takes about 60 years, I suspect.
17:08 < aestetix> I wonder how they managed when we had walled cities
17:08 <@oddball> And there's already been cases of folks building high-rise condos and then not being able to sell the units.
17:09 <@Corydon76> Yeah, it was pretty funny when that condo downtown went on sale just as the recession hit
17:09 <@oddball> Hell, I believe there's still a giant hole in the ground on West End that's been there since the housing crash.
17:09 <@Corydon76> That one is getting built up now
17:10 <@Corydon76> Word is that they found a mysterious indestructible box in the foundation of the old building... ;-)
17:11 <@Corydon76> and when that box is opened...
17:11 < aestetix> Just saying that it's easier to appreciate tradition and history when we have reminders of it.
17:11 <@Corydon76> I need to watch Hellraiser again
17:14 <@oddball> Oh, and of course there's the condos that are being built on the land that used to be a very busy parking lot over by Musica (whatever the hell that strip is called).
17:14 <@Dagmar> I'll open the fucker.
17:15 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: I would love to get that DVD and use my projector to play that movie at PhreakNIC
17:16 <@Corydon76> However, being as I'm on the organizing committee, that could be considered an official action for which I don't have licensing.
17:16 <@oddball> One of the Hellraiser movies?  Let me check to see if I have that on DVD or just a rip.
17:16 <@oddball> Oh... and thanks for reminding me that I need to bring the projector to the meeting.
17:17 <@Corydon76> Oh, right.  You still have that, don't you?
17:17 <@oddball> yep
17:18 <@Corydon76> Oh, hell, there were 8 films in the Hellraiser series?  I've only seen the first 3.
17:18 <@oddball> Were there?  I was thinking 6
17:19 <@Corydon76> and the third one was kind of lame, which is why I thought that was the end of it.
17:19 <@Corydon76> http://www.amazon.com/The-Hellraiser-Collection-III-Hellseeker/dp/B005CFBZQ6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1412371058&sr=8-2&keywords=hellraiser+dvd
17:20 <@Corydon76> Those 6 appear to be 3 through 8.
17:20 <@Corydon76> http://www.amazon.com/Horror-Double-Feature-Hellraiser-Hellbound/dp/B008874968/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412371058&sr=8-1&keywords=hellraiser+dvd
17:20 <@Corydon76> and the first 2
17:21 <@oddball> Oh... that's right.
17:21 <@oddball> There were the 3 original ones, then the 3 featuring Kari Whurer, and then two... other ones.
17:22 <@oddball> Actually, 7 and 8 weren't bad.
17:23 <@Corydon76> I don't normally enjoy horror, but there's something about Clive Barker's films that are really enjoyable
17:23 <@Corydon76> Possibly that his films actually have plots
17:24 <@Corydon76> and that the people who he chooses to eviscerate really are detestable humans
17:26 <@oddball> Oh.. wait... the Kari Whurer movies I was thinking of were the later Prophecy movies.  Nevermind.
17:29 < aestetix> wow
17:29 < aestetix> http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/03/sourcery-raises-2-5m-to-connect-kitchens-and-local-food-suppliers/
17:29 < aestetix> they are really scraping the barrel for ideas now
17:30 <@Bahhumbug> She still looks good for her age.
18:48 < frsilent> heading to Lenox now
18:49 <@brimstone> frsilent: where is you?
18:49  * brimstone assumes frsilent was in the parkinglot
18:54 <@brimstone> Dagmar: what were you doing with streetpass?
19:03 < aestetix> fuck you mysql
19:03 < aestetix> crashing for no obvious reason
19:11 < aestetix> two drives of data, they are identical. one works, one gives me a signal 11
19:12 <@Bahhumbug> Then they aren't identical.
19:13 < aestetix> heh yeah
19:13 < aestetix> well one of them is plain ext4, the other is ext4 through luks
19:15 <@Bahhumbug> Let me guess... the one that pukes is LUKS?
19:16 < aestetix> yes
19:16 < aestetix> does mysql have an issue with luks?
19:17 < aestetix> afaik it should read it as a normal ext4
19:23 <@Bahhumbug> There is bitrot somewhere, probably on the original drive, that's being compounded during the initial encryption.
19:23 < aestetix> well I'm making a new copy
19:23 < aestetix> so we'll see
19:23 <@Bahhumbug> LUKS on production systems is idiotic.
19:23 < aestetix> what's better?
19:24 <@Bahhumbug> You want to encrypt a laptop 'cause you're scared of data loss on theft, fine.
19:24 <@Bahhumbug> But on a stationary system, in production, that's presumably in a secure DC... no.
19:24 < aestetix> so you're saying just don't use it?
19:25 <@Bahhumbug> I dont' have any idea how many TBs or higher of data I manage, on countless drives.  None are LUKSd.
19:26 < aestetix> So no for disk encryption in general?
19:27 <@Bahhumbug> Not in production.
19:27 < aestetix> Interesting.
19:28  * Bahhumbug goes to help with dinner
19:30 < aestetix> http://www.ibtimes.com/north-korea-lockdown-pyongyang-reportedly-closed-amid-possible-kim-jong-un-coup-attempt-1698980
19:31 <@brimstone> encrypt everything all the time
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20:11 <@brimstone> http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-New-Social-Security-Number
20:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: How to Get a New Social Security Number: 14 Steps (with Pictures) (at www.wikihow.com)
20:18 <@brimstone> scoob:
20:36 < aestetix> 14 easy steps?
20:38 <@eryc> i'm all for encryption in production
20:38 <@eryc> when disks fail they go somewhere and unless you're destroing them you don't know where
20:38 < aestetix> ok recopying it worked
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20:53 <@Bahhumbug> Because this couldn't _possibly_ end poorly... https://github.com/jaburns/ngincat
20:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: jaburns/ngincat · GitHub (at github.com)
20:55 < aestetix> uhhhhh
20:55 < aestetix> please tell me that's not nginx + netcat
20:55 <@brimstone> pffft, that's way too long
20:56 <@brimstone> h(){ nc -lp8080 -c'r=HTTP/1.0;f=`head -n1|cut -d\  -f2`;[ -f .$f ]&&echo "$r 200\nContent-Type: `file -bi .$f`\n"&&cat .$f||echo $r 404';h;}
20:56 <@brimstone> done
20:56 <@eryc> get /../../etc/shadow
20:57 <@brimstone> oh yeah, h doesn't check for that at all
21:05 < aestetix> we have a 19 year old intern
21:05 < aestetix> he made a comment about running windows me
21:05 <@Dickie> RIP
21:05 < aestetix> I'm like "yeah, I remember downloading that on IRC because we didn't have bittorrent yet"
21:05 < aestetix> he said "oh wow I wasn't even really aware then"
21:07 < aestetix> Apparently 1999 is oldschool now
21:25 < cordless_> Lol
21:26 <@klixa> sucks being old doesnt it
21:27 < aestetix> ugh
21:27 < aestetix> http://www.wunderground.com/weather-forecast/zmw:94601.1.99999
21:27 < aestetix> oh klixa I wanted to ask
21:27 < aestetix> do you have guys that send you random messages about things?
21:27 < aestetix> I know a few girls who get like five page messages about random shit
21:30 <@Bahhumbug> That's called spam.  If you're feeling loney and left out I would be happy to send you some.
21:30 <@Bahhumbug> lonely, too
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21:45 < scoob> brimstone:
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22:13 <@brimstone> \o/
22:22 <@Bahhumbug> Not hearing from Dagmar or RangerZ makes me wonder if they got arrested for murder or something.
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23:17 <@Dagmar>  Nah
23:29 <@Bahhumbug> Well... that's certainly no fun.
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23:40 < RangerZ> oddball:  Here is the RWBY links, you and the Mrs Oddball should both enjoy this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE-zt1K560U&list=PLxFL1c5XcbzsOVNSDAfmln5s81mAkH0LT
23:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: RWBY Full Trailer (All 4 Trailers into one) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:41 < aestetix> oh fun
23:41 < aestetix> http://skydogcon.ticketleap.com/skydogcon-2014/t/facebook/
23:41 < RangerZ> little red riding hood, goldielocks, Beauty & Beast, Snow White
23:42 < RangerZ> those the the main characters
23:45 < aestetix> you know
23:45 < aestetix> it's funny how "lightning talks" have become the de-factor filler for dead space at conferences
23:45 < aestetix> as if you just put "lightning talks" on a schedule and they will magically happen
23:49 < RangerZ> also "Professor Glenda Goodwitch"
23:49 < RangerZ> I'll leave that up to the reader to figure out ;)
23:51 < RangerZ> Dagmar: Nora = Thor, not a valkyriePyrrha = AchillesMonty said that Team JNPR are based on characters who cross dressed in their stories. Thor had to dress as a woman to get his hammer back, and Achilles had to dress as a red-haired woman named Pyrrha, plus Pyrrha's nickname is The Invincible Girl. And Nora's symbol is a hammer with a lightning bolt on it.
23:51 < RangerZ> jaune=joan of arc  & ren=hua mulan
23:52 <@Bahhumbug> So... what happened at the meeting?
23:52 <@Bahhumbug> I would look at the detailed minutes... but...
23:53 < RangerZ> those 3 sat a corner of the table, and whispered to themselves, and then got up and left without saying a word (those 3 => corydonn, johnnyx, crazypants)
23:53 < RangerZ> ben's mother in law (or something like that) was found passed out not breathing... so he didn't come
23:53 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously?
23:54 <@oddball> RangerZ: Thanks.
23:55 <@Bahhumbug> So riddle me this.  If this is the type of nonsense the so called "officers" are going to be pulling why the fuck have a pretense of a meeting in the first place?
23:55 <@oddball> Oh... and Naienko reminded me that Brian's email addy is *not* [firstname].[lastname]@[whereever].com
23:55 <@oddball> So... Dru was blatantly lying about emailing.
23:56 <@Bahhumbug> You expected... honesty?
23:56 <@Bahhumbug> Silly human.
23:56 <@oddball> I expected him to at least try.
23:56 <@Bahhumbug> I think your optimism is misplaced.
23:57 <@oddball> He used to at least be smarter about his dishonesty.
23:58 < aestetix> RangerZ: threesome?
23:59 <@Bahhumbug> 3-way circle jerk is more like it.
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