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00:10 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV6w5ZpMYPQ
00:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: "Gay Panic" Defense Outlawed In California - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:10 < RangerZ> wait... there WAS a "gay panic" defense?
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00:51 <@oddball> god damnit... I've just been invited to another halloween party... Go to parties, or go to PN...
01:00 < aestetix_> penis
01:00 < RangerZ> oddball: honestly I dunno, I might just go to waste some time on the rest of the weekend, and not even bother drinking or anything
01:00 < RangerZ> just drive home at night
01:02 <@oddball> Well, yeah... at this point, If I'm staying at the hotel, it's definately with other folks, but that's more of a case of my current personal finances.
01:04 <@Dagmar> Parties
01:05 <@CRasH180> good night all
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01:05 < aestetix_> boston is awesome
01:05 < aestetix_> I love the weather. It rained today
01:06 <@oddball> Had fun when I went to Boston a few years back.
01:06 < aestetix_> I wish I were here longer.
01:06 < aestetix_> I'm here literally 24 hours
01:06 < aestetix_> My flight got in today at 6:30pm. I leave at 7pm tomorrow
01:07 <@oddball> Fucking hell... reading over the NYC knife laws because I'm going up there for a few days.  Makes me tempted to say "fuck it" and not go.
01:10 < RangerZ> aestetix_: just go back in jan
01:10  * RangerZ laughs to myself evily
01:17 < RangerZ> also... high of mid 80s for the rest of the week, then rain on the weekend
01:19 < RangerZ> we should setup a webcam for aestetix_ to be able to watch from oakland, lol
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02:18 <@Dagmar> Holy crap some people are never happy
02:19 <@Dagmar> There's a bloody T-shirt at Wal-Mart that says "Training To Be Batman's Wife" and fuckers are somehow deciding this is mysogynistic
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02:41 <@Dagmar> "The Great Baby Sale"
02:41 <@Dagmar> "macys.com"
02:41 <@Dagmar> "Save 50% when you buy 2 or more.  Only at Macy's"
02:41 <@Dagmar> *blinkblink*
02:42 <@Dagmar> Did I miss a serious change in the law?
02:45 <@Dagmar> I just can't see any way to interpret that other than _they're selling babies_
02:47 <@Evilpig> haha
02:47 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: that story came from jezebel so shoot the messenger
02:48 <@Dagmar> No there are fuckwits in my _feed_ who are angry about it
02:49 <@Dagmar> They're probably not going to like my "It's a t-shirt, not a fucking apron" response.
02:50 <@Evilpig> fuckin' neteng.  I'm here for a 3am maint.  he was trying to start it at 2:40
02:50 <@Dagmar> I ain't kidding about that Macy's ad
02:50 <@Evilpig> I saw that
02:50 <@Evilpig> that's some funny shit
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02:53 <@Evilpig> late night, Bahhumbug ?
02:53 <@Bahhumbug> Just woke up :)
02:54 <@Bahhumbug> Crashed out at 1700, was exhausted.
02:54 <@Evilpig> not that it's gonna matter.  Hyrule Warriors on the Wii-U is pretty good.  Not good enough to draw folks back in from xbox and ps
02:58 <@Evilpig> I added this tracking stuff to plex to see how often it really is getting used and I hate how my wdtv talks to plex locally.  http://blueboy.wilpig.org/plexwatch/info.php?id=36387
02:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: plexWatch (at blueboy.wilpig.org)
02:59 <@Evilpig> it's streaming the file directly without transcoding but it looks like the thing is just checking in every few minutes
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03:08 <@Bahhumbug> Someone's head is going to be on a block at Charter come 0800 CST tomorrow.
03:09 <@Bahhumbug> 6 fucking hour maintenance window that 1) affects VOIP services; 2) affects my business service; 3) came with no notifications whatsoever.
03:09 <@Bahhumbug> So I woke up to get some work done, for... nothing.  And my in-laws across the street get to lose voip for up to 6 hours?  And one has a medical condition?
03:09 <@Bahhumbug> No, fuck that.
03:13 <@Evilpig> yeah that's some bullshit
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03:14 <@Bahhumbug> Gets better.
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> Call back.  Get the same after-hours idiot.
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> Ask for the name of my current account rep.
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> "Mark West"
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> "No.  He left your company 5-7 years ago."
03:15 <@Evilpig> oops
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> Useless motherfucking idiots.
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> Why am I being directed to an after-hours support monkey?
03:15 <@Bahhumbug> Hi.
03:16 <@Bahhumbug> Business account, mother fucker.
03:16 <@Bahhumbug> Get me to someone with more than 2 firing brain cells.
03:16 <@Evilpig> that's what used to piss me off about comcrap
03:16 <@Evilpig> their business support folks fucking left at night
03:16 <@Evilpig> they left 24/7 support for the residential fucktards but I was out in the cold
03:17 <@Bahhumbug> This is new.
03:17 <@Bahhumbug> Charter always had 24x7 support.
03:17 <@Bahhumbug> Err, 24x7 business support.
03:19 <@Bahhumbug> Isn't service interupption of voip, considering the 9/11 use case, restricted under federal law?  Doesn't notification have to be sent out prior to such planned outages?
03:19 <@Bahhumbug> Err, 911
03:19 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh
03:19 <@Evilpig> that's my understanding
03:20 <@Evilpig> they have to have a really severe maintenance to take that out and not reroute the services
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03:37 <@Bahhumbug> I only have his word that voip was affected; I will get clarification at 0800.  But they are moving nodes from one cmts to another cmts; that will take out everything as far as I understand it.
03:37 <@Bahhumbug> Hell, my fucking tv is still dead.
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03:38 <@Evilpig> murder, death, kill!
03:44 <@Bahhumbug> Don't get me wrong.  I've been in the industry on and off for years; I get the whole maintenance window thing.  I have no issues with planned downtime with notifications.  It irritates me when I have no advanced notice.
03:45 <@Bahhumbug> Anyway, enough bitching.  Sorry to unload here.
03:45 <@klixa-cloud> that's what irc is for
03:46 <@klixa-cloud> cybersex and venting
03:47  * Evilpig takes off his pants and sits next to klixa-cloud 
03:48  * klixa-cloud vents to Evilpig
03:48 <@Evilpig> damnit. 
03:50 <@klixa-cloud> I have a fever and it's making me semi delerious
03:50 <@Evilpig> talked to my old man earlier.  he's wanting to hit up yosimite while i'm there.  he was saying most of the waterfalls are dry now
03:50 <@klixa-cloud> yosemete in Cali?
03:50 <@Evilpig> klixa-cloud: anything serious? or you just pick up the flu from dirty doorknobs and public restrooms?
03:50 <@Evilpig> yup
03:50 <@Evilpig> he lives in fresno right near there
03:50 <@klixa-cloud> ack Fresno
03:51 <@Evilpig> fresno isn't that bad.
03:51 <@klixa-cloud> well it's better than nebraska prolly
03:51 <@Evilpig> I spent summers out there as a kid
03:51 <@klixa-cloud> just a cold/flu
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03:55 < RangerZ1> they say the crazy never get sick ;)
03:57 <@klixa-cloud> I must not be crazy then
03:57 <@klixa-cloud> cause I am Soo sick :(
04:05 <@Bahhumbug> Sorry to hear that.  Hope you get better soon.
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04:11 <@Evilpig> have we ever been concerned about klixa-cloud being crazy?  
04:13 <@Bahhumbug> heh
04:13 <@Bahhumbug> In the event anyone other than myself cares... CentOS-5.11 is now GA as of a few moments ago.
04:22 <@Evilpig> old
04:27 <@Bahhumbug> Eh, what's old?
04:27 <@Evilpig> cent5
04:27 <@Evilpig> el5 in general
04:28 <@Bahhumbug> Meh
04:28 <@Bahhumbug> Point of interest, perhaps: There are more C5-based AMI instances in operation at amazon than anything else, by a factor of 2.5 or 3 from the last numbers I saw.
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07:35 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:37 <@Dolemite> Bahhumbug: Point of interest - most of the CRAY Supercomputer deployments are running CentOS
07:37 <@Bahhumbug> That I wasn't aware of.
07:38 <@Bahhumbug> DO you happen to know off-hand which release?
07:38 <@Bahhumbug> 5/6/7
07:38 <@Bahhumbug> ?
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07:38 <@Dolemite> I can ask
07:38 <@Dolemite> Or I guess I could login and see
07:39 <@Dolemite> el5
07:40 <@Bahhumbug> I figured; but thanks for the confirmation.
07:40 <@Bahhumbug> el5 just plain works.
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08:20 < aestetix_> https://transfer.sh/
08:20 < aestetix_> yep nothing wrong with this idea
08:21 <@brimstone> encryption optional
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08:24 < aestetix_> http://chronicle.su/2014/09/richard-stallman-arrested-for-criminal-negligence/
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08:45 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.  Jupiter Ascending looks promising, though the number of scenes snipped into the preview makes me think it will be another 3-hour epic from the Wachowskis.
08:55 <@Bahhumbug> Those are the brothers that did the Matrix series, right?
08:56 <@Dolemite> yeah
08:56 <@Dolemite> They also did Cloud Atlas
08:56 <@Dolemite> Which was a great concept, but just too long to make one movie
08:57 <@brimstone> Bahhumbug: *siblings
08:57 <@brimstone> one brother is now a sister
08:57 <@Dolemite> Yeah, what brimstone said
08:57 <@Bahhumbug> ...
08:57 <@Bahhumbug> Whatever.
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09:10 < aestetix_> wow they're making another movie?
09:10 < aestetix_> I'm surprised, since Cloud Atlas lost a lot of money
09:10 < aestetix_> I'm not unhappy... I loved that movie.
09:12 <@brimstone> every movie loses tons of money
09:12 < aestetix_> That's not true.
09:12 <@brimstone> if you make money on a movie, you're doing it wrong
09:12 < aestetix_> Titanic made a bunch of money
09:12 <@brimstone> or i should say, if a movie makes money, you're dong it wrong
09:13 <@brimstone> *doing
09:13 < aestetix_> So by your logic, the Atlas Shrugged movie was a masterpiece
09:13 <@brimstone> yup
09:15 <@Dolemite> I counter that if you're making a movie for the PURPOSE of making money, you're doing it wrong
09:15 <@Dolemite> However, if you make the movie for the right reasons and it happens to make a boatload of money for you, then you are most definitely doing it right
09:16 < aestetix_> What are the right reasons?
09:16 <@Dolemite> Telling stories through your craft
09:17 < aestetix_> The expendables tells a story
09:17 < aestetix_> and remains the worst movie I have ever seen
09:17 <@Dolemite> I didn't say that all stories were great, or that all movies made for the right reasons are great
09:19 < aestetix_> There shuld be a PhreakNIC movie
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09:29 <@Bahhumbug> @imdb trainwreck
09:29 <@GateKeeper> IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3152624/
09:29 <@GateKeeper> Trainwreck (2015) -/10
09:29 <@GateKeeper> Description / Plot details are being kept under wraps.
09:29 <@GateKeeper> Director / Judd Apatow  Stars / Daniel Radcliffe, Marisa Tomei, Brie Larson
09:29 <@GateKeeper> Genres / Comedy
09:29 <@Bahhumbug> There you go, the PN18 movie.
09:30 <@Dolemite> I lurv Daniel Radcliffe and Marisa Tomei!
09:30 < aestetix_> Then you should marry then
09:30 <@Dolemite> It's love from afar
09:30 <@Dolemite> Kind of like with you, aestetix.  The further away you are, the more we love you.
09:30 <@Bahhumbug> :)
09:31 <@Evilpig> Dolemite is just kidding.  he really wants a hug, aestetix_.
09:32 <@Dolemite> from afar
09:32  * aestetix_ hugs Evilpig 
09:34 <@Dolemite> Bahhumbug: Well PhreakNIC is certainly getting a lot more Facebook likes over the past week.  That's equivalent to people showing up, right?
09:34 <@Bahhumbug> Sure.
09:38 < aestetix_> Will PhreakNIC be livestreamed?
09:38 <@Evilpig> highly doubt it
09:39 <@Bahhumbug> hahahaha
09:39 <@Bahhumbug> I'm sorry, I found that funny.
09:39 < aestetix_> I don't know what's worse. Farting loudly in front of a hot girl, or farting before she shows up and then having it really stink.
09:39 <@Bahhumbug> They can't put up a fucking website that doesn't fuck up and you want streaming?
09:43 < aestetix_> Streaming isn't that hard to set up
09:44 <@Bahhumbug> Neither is drupal.
09:44 <@Bahhumbug> Go figure.
09:49 < aestetix_> I will never understand the need for women to put on makeup
09:50 <@opticron> I'm glad mine doesn't generally
09:50 < aestetix_> I mean does anyone actually notice some of the stuff they do?
09:50 < aestetix_> Like spending an hour tweaking her eyebrows to make sure they are perfect
09:52 < aestetix_> It usually takes me about 5 minutes to get ready
09:52 <@Bahhumbug> And it looks it :)
09:52 <@opticron> yeah, showered and ready to go in <10 minutes
09:52 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: I'm glad that makes you happy
09:53 <@Bahhumbug> Dude, I've never met you.  How would I know?
09:53 <@opticron> I usually take 15 for laziness' sake
09:53 <@Bahhumbug> Back when I had long hair it would take me 30 minutes to get showered, dressed out out the door.
09:53 <@Bahhumbug> Now... 10-15.
10:10 <@ignotus-sdf> I have no hair. makes it easier.
10:10 -!- You're now known as Tiredpig
10:15 <@Bahhumbug> Well, yes.  There is that.
10:26 < rattle> aestetix_: So what are you going to do for me if I come to your thing today?
10:33 < aestetix_> rattle: I'll give you a blowjob
10:33 < rattle> I'm not sure if this is helping.
10:33 < aestetix_> I'm in Cambridge now. God this weather is great.
10:34 < aestetix_> rattle: I'll give you a sticker
10:34 < rattle> In all seriousness, I'm still trying to figure out if I can get out of the office today.
10:34 < rattle> EOQ is a bitch.
10:34 < aestetix_> Ahh, ok.
10:34 < aestetix_> Well worse case scenario you *can* watch the livestream.
10:35 < aestetix_> Although I'd be interested in what questions you have
10:36 < aestetix_> I'm having lots of fun with the New England puritanism
10:36 <@Bahhumbug> puritanism?  In _Boston_?
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10:38 < aestetix_> Academics still make no sense to me.
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10:38 < aestetix_> Someone *pays* you to sit and read books? Hoping that you'll write papers?
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10:39 < aestetix_> Someone just explained their research project to me, and I was astonished to hear they are using it for education, and not to make money.
10:40 < aestetix_> Maybe this means there is something wrong with the Bay Area
10:42 <@Bahhumbug> Ya think?
10:44 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: the fact that the paper could be about a proposed link between two esoteric events makes no difference.
10:49 <@cordless> aestetix_: on a philosophical journey?
10:49 < aestetix_> cordless: what?
10:50 <@cordless> The last I spoke with you.. you were reading St. Augustine?
10:50 <@cordless> Now Puritans?
10:50 < aestetix_> I'm not reading about it, I'm in Boston.
10:50 <@cordless> oh lol
10:51 < aestetix_> And I haven't worked up to Augustine yet. I'm still at Homer ;)
10:51 <@cordless> Working in Boston, or holiday?
10:52 < aestetix_> I'm here giving a talk
10:52 < aestetix_> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/09/aestetix
10:52 < aestetix_> It'll be livestreamed if you want to tune in
10:52 <@cordless> When's go time?
10:52 <@cordless> I'm sitting in class right now lol
10:53 <@cordless> Nevermind, I see. I'll try to tune in
10:53 < aestetix_> 12:30pm eastern
10:55 <@cordless> aestetix_: Are you planning on speaking at phreaknic?
10:55 < aestetix_> I don't know yet.
10:55 <@Bahhumbug> Are you planning on avoiding the train wreck?
10:55 <@Bahhumbug> That is really a better question.
10:55 < aestetix_> I have been travelling too much lately, gf is forbiding me from it. I may need to negotiate
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10:56 <@cordless> lol. is it that bad Bahhumbug? I haven't been since 2004.
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10:59 <@Mirage> oink, oink, oink
11:01 <@Mirage> hrm..didn't work
11:03 <@Dolemite> He claims to be tired
11:03 <@Dolemite> Probably nappening after fappening
11:06 <@Tiredpig> Im about to head home
11:06 <@Tiredpig> just passing off info to the folks that just arrived
11:08 <@Bahhumbug> cordless: Depends who you talk to and where you're sitting.  For me, I see nothing but bullshit, lies and broken crap.
11:08 <@Bahhumbug> Others will see it differently.
11:11 <@cordless> Bahhumbug: good thing I'm local, so if it sucks, I'll just go home :D
11:12 <@Bahhumbug> Oddly enough before the shitstorm hit I was considering going.  But if I do either Amber or I will end up in a cell.  I have no intention of allowing that to happen to myself, so... fuck it.
11:13 <@cordless> shitstorm?
11:14 <@Bahhumbug> I'm about to get in a conf call; I'm sure someone else can fill you in.
11:14 <@Bahhumbug> me back later
11:14 <@cordless> later
11:14 <@Bahhumbug> meh, toss an '/' in the front of that.
11:15 <@Dolemite> cordless:  There has been a lot of tension as of late between the current Administraton and many members of the SE2600 community who feel left out of not only the PN18 planning process, but also the information loop.  I agree with various points on both sides of the issue, so I can't/won't declare either side as being 100% accurate.
11:17 <@Dolemite> I can also state that there have been unfounded accusations flung in both directions, some borderline libel/slander.
11:17 <@cordless> There usually are in emotionally charged debates...
11:17 <@Dolemite> And this is no exception
11:18 <@cordless> So I'll be completely safe to ignore all of that and just show up and have a good time at an event someone else planned for me?
11:20 <@Dolemite> Yes, if you can approach the event with that attitude then you are the target demographic.
11:27 < frsilent> aestetix_: quicktime.... :(
11:32 <@Dagmar> Also, Dru's turned into a dipshit now
11:36 < aestetix_> heh
11:36 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to mince words
11:37 <@Dagmar> That was some straight up bullshit he pulled
11:37 <@Dagmar> ...and it sure as hell wasn't a _momentary_ lapse.
11:38 <@Dagmar> He he all kinds of time to take a moment and think, but he hunkered down with both feet planted on 'idiocy'
11:38 < aestetix_> frsilent: hmm
11:38 < aestetix_> frsilent: I wonder if there's a way to set up an independent stream
11:40  * shapr hugs Shadow404
11:41 < aestetix_> shapr: what's the magic word?
11:41 <@Dickie> DICKSHIT
11:41 < aestetix_> Dickie: hanging out with Corydon76 again?
11:41 <@Bahhumbug> hah
11:41 <@Dickie> Oh, you
11:41 <@shapr> aestetix_: VAINA
11:42 <@shapr> speaking of which, I have another date
11:42 <@Dickie> with a can of sausages
11:43 <@shapr> nah, going bowling with a cute blonde 23 year old
11:43 <@Dickie> you do you, man
11:43 <@shapr> I do me often enough that I would like a cute female to help.
11:43  * shapr snickers
11:44 < aestetix_> penis
11:44 < aestetix_> (gotta catch up)
11:44 <@shapr> don't fall behind!
11:47 <@NotLarry> or bend over to pick up the soap...
11:47 < aestetix_> NotLarry: did that happen to you in jail?
11:47 <@NotLarry> aestetix_: I don't do jail thank you very much.
11:48 <@NotLarry> ok, why the fuck can I not search for video  on youtube while a video is playing?
11:49 <@NotLarry> Is there some setting I have wrong?
11:49 <@NotLarry> This has to be something that exists.
11:49 <@Dagmar> Yes, it's called "spawn a new browser tab"
11:50 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: so the answer is no?
11:50 <@Dagmar> Spawn a new browser tab.
11:50 <@NotLarry> how does that help me?
11:50 <@Dagmar> It helps you because then you can start watching your video as the result of a playlist you _add videos to_
11:51 <@NotLarry> nope, didn't work.  Still can't watch the video while I search for other video
11:51 < aestetix_> ugh
11:51 <@Dagmar> There's not really any way to select a video without playing it unless there's a playlist-thing involved somewhere
11:51 < aestetix_> I hate websites that almost finish loading a page and then refresh and go blank
11:52 <@NotLarry> I just want to be able to search for other video while I am watching my video selection.
11:52 <@NotLarry> Without having to spawn a new window on a different screen.
11:52 <@Dagmar> THey dont' do tha
11:52 <@Dagmar> t
11:52 <@NotLarry> They need to.
11:53 <@Dagmar> Well tell them
11:53 <@Dagmar> ...or use your tablet
11:53 <@NotLarry> I can't be the only person who can watch a video and chew gum ffs.
11:53 <@NotLarry> Wait, I have to get a tablet?
11:53 <@Dagmar> Alternatively, you could try clicking the rather ever-present 'Watch Later' buttons that you've been seeing
11:54 <@Dagmar> Dude, here I watch YouTube stuff on a 41" television
11:54 <@Dagmar> ...from my phone.
11:54 <@Dolemite> Sounds like Dagmar is Chromecasting, or similar
11:54 <@NotLarry> I can't.  I mean I guess if I make the phone say it isn't a mobile device.
11:55 <@NotLarry> fucking video owner has not releasd it for viewing on a mobile device.
11:55 <@Dagmar> Chromecast
11:56 < aestetix_> god academics are wierd
11:56 < aestetix_> I don't think there will be booze at this talk :/
11:56 <@Dagmar> heh
12:00 < rattle> Yeah, so I'll be watching the stream.  I can't make it there, then make it back in time for a meeting I've got to go to.
12:13 < Neoteric> the hell are you people talking about ?
12:19 <@Dagmar> Stuff.
12:25 <@Tiredpig> bedtime
12:25 <@shapr> yay?
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13:54 < rattle> aestetix_: So, way to repeatedly drop the f-bomb at Harvard.
14:04 < cordless_> aestetix_: interesting discussion.
14:05 < cordless_> rattle: I only had the audio feed.. was there an adverse reaction to aestetix_'s profanity?
14:06 < cordless_> I was actually surprised that he continually said fuck there lol
14:09 < aestetix_> rattle: thanks
14:10 < aestetix_> rattle: I should have said vagina
14:10 < rattle> It actually seemed like a good event.  Lots of discussion.
14:11 < aestetix_> rattle: yeah. They asked hard questions. I've considered them all, but I don't have answers for them.
14:11 < aestetix_> As you probably noticed.
14:11 < aestetix_> rattle: besides the f-bombs did you enjoy it?
14:11 < rattle> Yes.
14:11 < aestetix_> Someone came up to me after and said that saying "I don't know" is not common at Harvard
14:13 <@oddball> Because they're afraid to show ignorance... which is a mjor problem.
14:13 < aestetix_> Well someone was like "how do we solve identity and health care"
14:13 < aestetix_> How the hell am I supposed to give an answer to that
14:14 < rattle> Well, you start with "I'm working on a grant proposal.." and then proceed to poop out your mouth.
14:14 <@oddball> Identity and health care?  Huh?  As in how do we keep medical records straight?
14:14 < aestetix_> oddball: for example: a patient owns all their own data right? So do they have to right to withhold parts of their medical history when being evaluated by a doctor?
14:15 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: Yes, they do
14:15 < aestetix_> Corydon76: I know.
14:15 <@Corydon76> They may fail to get a correct diagnosis, and they may be treated improperly as a result, but they absolutely do have that right.
14:15 <@oddball> Is it in their best interest?  Usually, no, but that's their own damned fault.
14:15 < aestetix_> Right.
14:16 < aestetix_> So what happens if a patient witholds that they are deathly allergic to someothing, and the doctor injects them with it
14:16 <@oddball> I say "usually," since some folks apparently feel the need to include things like whether or not the patient owns guns as part of their "medical history."
14:17 <@Corydon76> However, they also don't have the right to put others in danger, either by omitting facts where the treatment may endanger others, like medical staff, or by polluting the medical records of another person by assuming their identity.
14:17 <@Corydon76> oddball: Medical history can sometimes include mental health, and in that case, gun ownership can be relevant
14:18 < aestetix_> rattle: I think I said "bullshit" a few times too
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14:30 < rattle> So..  Microsoft's bold strategy to thwart everyone planning to skip the Windows 9 upgrade.
14:30 < rattle> Yeah.
14:35 <@Corydon76> rattle: What's their bold strategy to get businesses to move to Windows 8?
14:35 < rattle> http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/09/30/microsoft-windows/16474073/
14:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Microsoft unveils first look at Windows 10 (at www.usatoday.com)
14:37 <@Corydon76> Clearly, they're going to brand it "Windows X"
14:37 < rattle> Annnnnd..  Nother school shooting.
14:38 <@Corydon76> And hah!  Ebay is spinning Paypal back off.
14:38 <@Corydon76> Another failed merger
14:42 <@Corydon76> rattle: are you talking about the one in North Carolina or the one in Kentucky?
14:52 < aestetix_> rattle: so in general you liked it?
14:52 < aestetix_> Did anyone else watch it?
15:09 < cordless_> I did aestetix_
15:11 < aestetix_> cordless_: what did you think overall
15:12 < cordless_> It was interesting. Really brought to light some things I hadn't  previously considered
15:12 <@Bahhumbug> Umm.  They bouth paypal in '02.  I'd hardly call a 12 year stint a "failed merger".
15:12 <@Bahhumbug> bought, even
15:12 < aestetix_> cordless_: thanks!
15:13 < cordless_> Where's my sticker? Haha
15:13 < aestetix_> You know
15:13 < aestetix_> I tried to use the stickers as rewards
15:13 < aestetix_> btu the questions came too fast
15:13 < cordless_> They really asked some difficult questions
15:14 < aestetix_> yeah
15:14 < aestetix_> which is good
15:14 < aestetix_> it's just... some of them have no answers
15:15 < cordless_> Did you get negative feedback from someone there about lack of answers?
15:15 < aestetix_> no
15:15 < cordless_> If you knew all the answers then you'd be running things for sure... and it would have been a lecture  not a discussion lol
15:16 < aestetix_> hahah
15:16 <@Corydon76> Bahhumbug: I never saw a good reason why they were merged in the first place.
15:16 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: I think it made buying things on ebay easier. Maybe.
15:16 < aestetix_> er, Corydon76
15:16 <@Corydon76> And most mergers of two large companies are destined to fail, with a spin-off as the final result.
15:17 <@Bahhumbug> Doesn't matter if you saw a good reason or not.  They did.  And they had a 12 year run.
15:17 <@Bahhumbug> That does not define a "failed" merger.
15:17 <@Corydon76> It's why when as a stockholder, I'm asked to approve mergers, I always vote against them, because they almost never are able to manage a coherent argument for "why does this improve shareholder value?"
15:18 <@Corydon76> Which is also why Carl Icahn pushed them to separate.
15:19 <@Corydon76> Bahhumbug: coexisting under a single corporation doesn't make for a successful merger
15:20 <@Bahhumbug> I will, again, reiterate: 12 years.
15:20 <@Bahhumbug> You can whine about whatever you want, they managed to work as a single entity for 12 years.
15:20 <@Bahhumbug> Most companies don't _last_ 12 years.
15:21 <@Corydon76> The longer the time just makes the case why they never were able to actually merge.
15:21 <@Corydon76> They could have gotten the same benefit from a simple partnership.
15:22 <@Corydon76> Same thing for eBay buying Skype
15:24 <@oddball> See... the PayPal and eBay merger made sense.  Ebay buying Skype is one of those "uh... well... they both involve computers" things.
15:25 <@Bahhumbug> skype has dick-all to do this this.
15:25 <@Corydon76> oddball: I don't even see that.  One is essentially a bank, and the other is an auction house
15:25 < aestetix_> http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/30/wunwun-the-service-for-on-demand-anything-rebrands-in-time-for-san-francisco-launch/
15:26 <@Bahhumbug> s/this this/with this/
15:26 < aestetix_> yep nobody is gonna abuse that
15:26 <@oddball> Corydon76: It meant that eBay was able to have a payment service in-house.
15:26 <@Corydon76> Bahhumbug: Skype was another case of the heads of eBay deciding they wanted to try playing a conglomerate, except the integration of the purchase made no sense.
15:27 <@Bahhumbug> Conflation.  How fun.
15:27  * Bahhumbug loses interest
15:27 <@oddball> If I remember correctly, before that, ebay basically told the sellers and buyers to figure out the money stuff on their own.
15:28 <@Corydon76> oddball: my recollection is that eBay had an in-house payment proxy service.
15:29 <@Corydon76> though they didn't require buyers and sellers to use their own proxy service, and fraudulent proxy services were a huge problem
15:29 <@oddball> I don't remember that, but I think that was also before I had a credit card, so...
15:29 <@oddball> And I don't think my ATM card had turned into a debit card yet.
15:35 < aestetix_> oddball: how many times did I drop the f-bomb
15:35 < aestetix_> er cordless_
15:35 < aestetix_> I'm curious now
15:37 < cordless_> About?
15:38 <@Bahhumbug> The fact that you're questioning this at all is bad.
15:38 <@oddball> Hmm?  Oh, I haven't watched your talk.
15:38 <@Bahhumbug> Why would you drop f-bombs during a talk at wherever the hell you were?
15:38 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: at Harvard
15:38 <@oddball> Because there are times that you can only respond with "what the fuck?"
15:38 < aestetix_> Or "facebook fucks over its users"
15:38 <@Bahhumbug> So, you decided to swear while presenting at one of the most prestigious schools in the country.
15:39 <@Bahhumbug> Good going.
15:39 <@Bahhumbug> I swear more than most people but even I wouldn't do that.
15:39 < aestetix_> I should have just replaced every slide with the word "penis"
15:39 < cordless_> Or quoting  your friend's  tweet "fuck fuck fuck you google"
15:39 < aestetix_> cordless_: in general. rattle said I dropped it a lot
15:39 < aestetix_> oh hahaha
15:40 < cordless_> You did, but no more than I do on a regular conversational basis..
15:40 < aestetix_> oh ok
15:40 < aestetix_> then rattle is just being a sillyhead
15:41 < cordless_> So yeah, quite a bit LOL.
15:41 < aestetix_> silly silly goose
15:41 < cordless_> I'm a Marine :P
15:41 < cordless_> Perhaps out of the culture of most Harvard folks though.
15:42 < aestetix_> I had actually debating showing up in a tweed suit
15:46 < cordless_> I didn't get to see the video feed... I assumed you were wearing one..
15:46 < cordless_> 4g didn't show the video, only audio :P
15:47 < aestetix_> oh heh
15:50 < aestetix_> so
15:50 < aestetix_> http://blog.uber.com/UberTeacher
15:50 < aestetix_> this is problematic for more than one reason
16:06 <@oddball> What?  That teachers are getting summer jobs?
16:06 <@oddball> They've been doing that for a long, long time.
16:14 <@oddball> By the way, apparently the city of Nashville is sold out of Hyrule Warriors.
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16:20 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-10665-1_7
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16:21 < RangerZ> sdfsdf
16:21 < RangerZ> sasdf-[psdfj
16:21 < NexusL_> RangerZ: stop it you are typin glike me now
16:21 < RangerZ> sdf
16:21 < NexusL_> asd
16:23 < RangerZ> ughsadf
16:23 < RangerZ> there we go
16:23 < RangerZ> screen was killing me
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16:25 < RangerZ> ok... yeah... something is buggy
16:25 < RangerZ> I'll have to play with setting up screen /irc properly at home later
16:25 <@Bahhumbug> So... typing random shit helps that?
16:25 <@Bahhumbug> Odd.  I'll have to try that sometime.
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> What's to setup? :)
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> You type screen.
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> You start irssi.
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> You profit.
16:27 < RangerZ> yeah, I didn't realize the input was being forwarded to the channel
16:28 < RangerZ> it was something to do with finch
16:28 <@Bahhumbug> Bleah.  You said irc.  I assumed a real irc client.
16:28 < RangerZ> well its done with, b/c I'm just using pidgin now
16:29 < RangerZ> the 'nice' thing is that they both share the same config for accounts
16:29 < RangerZ> thats why I was using it
16:33 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/user/XSEEDgames so I had them subscribed on youtube for a long time
16:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: XSEEDgames - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:33 < RangerZ> and only recently they have started to pump out videos
16:33 < RangerZ> basically like they want to feed the trolls who hate them, to drive free press
16:33 < RangerZ> LOL
16:51 < aestetix_> RangerZ: plz to send a free link
16:56 < RangerZ> i did
16:56 < RangerZ> you just have to be on a university campus
16:56 < RangerZ> just go download a ton of "free" journals from a university
16:56 < RangerZ> no one ever gets harassed legally by doing that
16:56 < RangerZ> -_-
16:58 < RangerZ> hmm... looks like it was a springer link
16:58 < RangerZ> no free PDF then :/
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17:21 <@eryc> ebola
17:22 < RangerZ> ebola is free
17:22 < RangerZ> and fairly open source from my understanding
17:24 < RangerZ> the repo for it... not quite as easy to access as github
17:25 <@Bahhumbug> Nah, just head to Dallas.
17:25 <@Bahhumbug> The case there has been confirmed as Ebola.
17:25 < RangerZ> but lets be honest... parts of Africa are nicer than Dallas
17:25 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah... not really.
17:26 < RangerZ> 'parts' not the 'parts' that are with ebola
17:27 < RangerZ> but 'parts' like Egypt
17:27 < RangerZ> lol
17:27 < RangerZ> South Africa too
17:27 <@eryc> the girls are hotter in dallas, so no
17:29 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, sorry but fuck Africa.  Most of that place is still at war with each other.
17:30 <@Bahhumbug> My best friend's daughter is doing an 18 month stint somewhere in Eastern Africa as part of the Peace Corp and I've not heard anything really good about her experiences.
17:31 < RangerZ> well of course
17:31 < RangerZ> peace corp goes to the worst parts of any area in general
17:31 < RangerZ> like dallas
17:31 < RangerZ> lol
17:31 <@Mirage> could be worse..could be Nashville
17:32 <@Bahhumbug> I'll take Nashville over Dallas.
17:32 <@Bahhumbug> Given a choice.
17:33 <@Bahhumbug> At least there are seasons in Nashville.
17:33 <@Bahhumbug> Kinda.
17:33 < RangerZ> yeah, especially since Katrina
17:33 < RangerZ> like half of the refugees from NO ended up in dallas, and are suppose to have screwed with the demographics, and severely raised the crime rates, etc
17:34 <@Mirage> the other half landed in antioch
17:34 <@Bahhumbug> Pretty much.
17:34 < RangerZ> that a joke
17:34 < RangerZ> or being serious?
17:35 <@Mirage> serious.  the priest lake area especially took in a huge influx thanks to already cheaper houses in taht area..and then the crime rate skyrocketed and the area turned to shit
17:35 < RangerZ> ahh
17:36 <@Bahhumbug> Very serious.  LOTS of people migrated to the Antioch area.
17:36 < RangerZ> is that what made the area a 'no go' region?
17:37 <@Bahhumbug> People went to Dallas, Antioch or Baton Rouge.
17:37 <@Bahhumbug> (For the most part)
17:37 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BMGPd6mqnI
17:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Introducing Windows 10 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:37 < RangerZ> ......
17:37 < RangerZ> on a fucking _game_ channel
17:38 <@Mirage> Antioch was a decent area before that.  Ask Dolemite about the changes in his old neighborhood over there.
17:38 < RangerZ> hmm. that seems to make sense, I wondered why everyone was saying "yeah... it used to be ok, but went to hell"
17:38 < RangerZ> when I was moving down here
17:39 < RangerZ> ok... fuck search being BOTH pc and web
17:40 < RangerZ> LOL.... virtual desktops
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17:53 < rattle> http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/30/reddit-scoops-up-50m-series-b-from-sam-altman-a16z-sequoia-at-500m-valuation/?ncid=rss
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18:06 <@Tiredpig> jesus christ.  at&t is trying to pull off a 6Mbs/512Kbps as broadband
18:07 <@Bahhumbug> Compared to dialup... it is.
18:21 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/30/opinion/yang-ello-facebook/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
18:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Will Ello succeed as 'anti-Facebook'? (Opinion) - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com)
19:11 < aestetix_> http://20committee.com/2014/09/30/obamas-big-fat-intel-scandal/
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19:46 < RangerZ> ./msg card.freenode.net what if channel staff ARE the trolls we need help with?
19:46 < RangerZ> damn it... typo...
19:49 <@Shadow404> when did they make ware staff?
19:50 <@Tiredpig> that's a nightmare thought
19:57 <@Dagmar> I'm with Eryc
19:57 <@Dagmar> Close the borders at Texas.
19:58 <@Dagmar> Texas is big enough to rid out a little hemorrhagic fever on their own
19:58 < RangerZ> Just because "they do everything bigger in texas" includes pandemics too....
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> <devhen> http://stevejenkins.com/blog/2014/09/shellshock-warning-even-after-patching-your-old-vulnerable-bash-binary-could-be-resurrected-from-memory/
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> Discounting the reference to F12 the article is legit.
20:14 <@Bahhumbug> Local only, but if you've got local users on a box it's something to consider.
20:41 < RangerZ> "nice...."
20:41 < RangerZ> I can't wait for the next whack-a-mole
20:41 < RangerZ> SSH... apache? SMTP? DNS?
20:42 < RangerZ> fucking bookies in Ireland proably have bets for this...
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20:45 <@Bahhumbug> Cool.  $500 credit for the Google Cloud Platform, aka Google Computer.
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> Thank you, CentOS :)
20:47 <@Tiredpig> how'd that happen?
20:48 <@Bahhumbug> They gave the CentOS project a comp code to use; trying to wine and dine 'em.
20:48 <@Bahhumbug> I do enough for the project that I've got access to it as well.
20:49 <@Bahhumbug> No idea what I'm going to do with it, though :)
20:52 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug:
20:52 < RangerZ> PN app
20:52 < RangerZ> lol
20:52 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah... no.
20:52 <@Bahhumbug> :D
20:53 < RangerZ> actually, an app for your wife's website
20:53 <@Bahhumbug> This fucking shellshock bullshit is now pissing me off.
20:53 <@Bahhumbug> @quit
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20:53 < RangerZ> oh wait, nvm, that was the other old fart in the room
20:54 <@Bahhumbug> Be nice to your elders, twink.
20:54 <@Bahhumbug> Waitaminute.  How old are you, anyway?
20:56 < RangerZ> old enough to not be in school anymore, but younger than most of the old timers in here
20:56 < RangerZ> lol
20:58 <@Bahhumbug> Good enough.
20:58 <@Bahhumbug> Be nice to your elders, twink.
20:58 <@Bahhumbug> :D
21:00 < RangerZ> actually
21:01 < RangerZ> put it up on one of those gift card exchange sites
21:01 < RangerZ> lol
21:01 < RangerZ> its dirty, wrong
21:01 < RangerZ> and in all the wrong ways.... which makes it just so much more...right
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21:05 < RangerZ> so messing up RegEx in a filter... accidently starting 50 torrents... for 130GB .... *doh*
21:05 < RangerZ> thankfully caught it before they actually started....
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, no.  I don't do things like that.
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> There is an amount of trust at play here and I don't violate trust.
21:09 <@Bahhumbug> ming's will be coming online in a few mioutes.
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23:46 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fKrQMqPWg
23:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Tetris Movie Adaptation Announced - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:46 < RangerZ> I don't know if they are trolling or not....
23:47 < RangerZ> "I can't wait for Yahtzee the movie directed by Michael Bay"
23:47 < RangerZ> holy shit... I just hurt myself from laughing too hard...
23:50 <@SuMo_D> oh shit... http://thefreethoughtproject.com/well-california-governor-vetoes-bill-requiring-warrants-police-drones/
23:50 <@SuMo_D> aestetix_
23:50 <@SuMo_D> have you seen that?
23:52 < RangerZ> well I'm curious what else was in the bill
23:52 < RangerZ> b/c cali doesn't have line item AFAIK
23:53 < RangerZ> nvm "appear to be too narrowand could impose requirements beyond what is required by either the Fourth Amendment or the privacy provisions in the California Constitution" nah, he just thinks Constitution is min. not just MAX of police powers
23:54 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: how about you come to nashville for Tetris the movie
23:54 < RangerZ> we'll have a big SE2600 screening
23:54 < RangerZ> lol
23:54 <@SuMo_D> lol
23:54 <@SuMo_D> not going to say no
23:59 < RangerZ> come on, it'll just fit together perfectly
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