--- Log opened Mon Sep 29 00:00:08 2014 00:03 <@Evilpig> oh shit. it's after midnight here 00:03 <@Evilpig> I gotta get to sleep 00:04 <@Dickie> Coward 00:04 < RangerZ> pig lover 00:08 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: in the interest of gender balance, I'll work on saying penis more 00:10 <@Dagmar> I have a better idea. How about saying 'vagina' less so they stay in balance that way 00:11 <@Bahhumbug> ^ 00:14 < RangerZ> or say neither 00:15 < RangerZ> or join http://fembotcollective.org/journal/ 00:16 < RangerZ> @weather 37216 00:16 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Nashville, TN :: Mostly Cloudy :: 69F | Sunday: Mainly clear. Lows overnight in the low 60s. Sunday Night: A clear sky. Low 61F. Winds light and variable. 00:16 < RangerZ> @weather help 00:16 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 00:16 < RangerZ> @help weather 00:16 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: (weather ) -- Alias for "wunderground $*". 00:16 <@Bahhumbug> @list weather 00:16 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: setuser, setweather, and wunderground 00:16 <@Bahhumbug> @help setweather 00:16 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: (setweather ) -- Set's weather location code for your nick as location code. Use your zip/postal code to keep it simple. Ex: setweather 10012 00:17 <@Bahhumbug> You "list" the commands per module and then request specific help on those commands. 00:17 <@Bahhumbug> You can list all modules with just @list. 00:17 < RangerZ> hmm, was curious if it had 'tomorrows weather' guess not 00:17 <@Bahhumbug> If can do forecasting, yes. 00:17 <@Bahhumbug> @weather 37355 00:17 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Manchester, TN :: Overcast :: 66F (Humidity: 88%) | Sunday: Partly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 60s. Sunday Night: A few clouds. A few sprinkles possible. Low 61F. Winds light and variable. 00:17 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Alerts: :: No alerts. 00:18 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Forecast: :: Sun: Partly Cloudy (79F/61F) | Mon: Clear (82F/57F) | Tue: Clear (83F/57F) | Wed: Clear (85F/62F) 00:18 <@Bahhumbug> @help setuser 00:18 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: (setuser ) -- Sets a user's to True or False. Settings: alerts, almanac, astronomy, forecast, pressure, wind, uv, visibility, dewpoint, humidity, updated Ex: metric True or colortemp False 00:19 < RangerZ> ahh, see this little discussion has been more valuable than all the PN talk of the last night 00:19 < RangerZ> lol 00:52 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 00:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 00:57 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:30 < RangerZ> also... I hope everyone with a mac fixed the 'bash virus' ;) lol 01:36 <@Dickie> I'll bash your virus 01:52 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 01:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 02:08 <@Bahhumbug> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/09/still-more-vulnerabilities-in-bash-shellshock-becomes-whack-a-mole/ 02:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: Still more vulnerabilities in bash? Shellshock becomes whack-a-mole | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) 02:08 <@Bahhumbug> Just sayin' 02:11 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12 <@Dagmar> Patches were already distributed, by the way 02:12 <@Dagmar> You shoudl have gotten them in two rounds 02:12 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 02:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 02:14 <@Dagmar> I need to look into this to figure out why it's not as simple as finally making the parser treat '-quoted strings as fucking literals 02:16 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:01 <@Bahhumbug> There is at least one more remote code execution hole in bash; the fun isn't over yet. 03:01 <@Bahhumbug> http://lcamtuf.blogspot.com/2014/09/quick-notes-about-bash-bug-its-impact.html 03:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: lcamtuf's blog: Quick notes about the bash bug, its impact, and the fixes so far (at lcamtuf.blogspot.com) 03:02 <@Dagmar> Personally I'm fine with making it a command switch to bother to import functions from the parent 03:03 <@Dagmar> It would not bother me at all 03:03 <@Dagmar> It'd just make () subshells a bit more irksome 03:04 <@Bahhumbug> It may not bother you, but there is a lot of code out there that will be directly impacted by that. The initial patch as released by Red Hat and others already broke compatibility in some edge cases already. however. 03:05 <@Dagmar> Yep, I know it would break some things. 03:26 < RangerZ> why not just break all the _broken_ things? lol 03:31 < RangerZ> b/c at some point... its going to come down to doing just that, and its going to suck one way or the other 03:39 <@Bahhumbug> Or fix them in a compatible manner. Novel idea, I know. 03:43 <@Dagmar> In the meantime we dance around a fire while careful measurements are being made so that the exact amount of water needed to put it out is used. 03:43 <@Dagmar> I kind of look at a temporary breakage as a lesser evil 03:44 <@Dagmar> We can lose some availability or we can lose both confidentiality and integrity 04:00 <@Bahhumbug> We've _already_ lost that. 04:01 <@Bahhumbug> If it's not evident by now, the infra that drives the internet is a fucking mess. 04:01 <@Bahhumbug> We can't go a single month without _some_ type of SSL issue. 04:02 <@Bahhumbug> People would rather bury their heads in the sand and hope something really shitty doesn't happen on their watch. 04:02 <@Bahhumbug> Same nonsense that's been going on for 3 decades. 04:02 <@Corydon76> A compatible solution isn't going to be found, because it's the feature itself which is the security problem 04:02 <@Corydon76> FreeBSD had the right idea. 04:04 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, bullshit. 04:04 <@Bahhumbug> It's code. Go fix it. 04:04 <@Bahhumbug> It's just that simple. Everything else are fucking excuses. 04:04 <@Corydon76> Putting executable code in environment variables was always a fucking stupid idea 04:05 <@Corydon76> _That_ is the feature. Tell me how executable code in environment variables could ever be classified as anything other than a really dumb idea 04:07 <@Corydon76> They got away with it, because nobody uses bash directly for CGI (or if they do, they're fucking stupid already). 04:07 <@Bahhumbug> You're wrong. 04:07 <@Corydon76> And nobody stopped to think about the fact that CGI regularly calls system, and on a lot of systems, that's bash. 04:08 <@Bahhumbug> bash is used by many, many embedded devices. 04:09 <@Corydon76> And that was pretty stupid. They should have been using the Bourne shell 04:10 <@Bahhumbug> Whatever. 04:10 <@Corydon76> But at this point, it's water under the bridge. It's already that way; the question is, how do we fix it? 04:10 <@Bahhumbug> Backseat drivers are always so amusing. 04:10 <@Corydon76> And turning off executable code in environment variables is turning off a bad idea that never should have been implemented in the first place 04:13 <@Corydon76> Bahhumbug: I've written my fair share of security advisories and been the driving force behind fixing some of them. I actually do have experience in this sort of thing. 04:20 <@Corydon76> I was also amused by the Ars Technica story where they reported that bash running under the web server was running stuff with the privileges of the system administrator. 07:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:49 * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 08:16 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4NRJoCNHIs 08:18 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 08:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 08:24 <@Bahhumbug> Glad to see slackware is still up to their normal stellar release times. 08:27 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 08:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 08:34 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396256,further-flaws-render-shellshock-patch-ineffective.aspx 08:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Further flaws render Shellshock patch ineffective - Security - News - iTnews.com.au (at www.itnews.com.au) 08:34 <@Bahhumbug> Nope. Not over by a long shot. 08:35 <@Bahhumbug> Of course, that article is almost entirely ripped off from lcamtuf's own blog post. 09:39 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:45 < RangerZ> Cookie: () { echo "alias cd='rm -rf /'" >> ~/.bashrc; echo "export PATH=~:$PATH" >> ~/.bashrc } 10:45 < RangerZ> it really shouldn't be that simple.... 10:48 < RangerZ> and thats if you just want to be destructive... 10:48 <@Evilpig> nobody goto california. "The legislation says silence or lack of resistance does not constitute consent. Under the bill, someone who is drunk, drugged, unconscious or asleep cannot grant consent." 10:48 <@Evilpig> give a girl two drinks and you're raping her 10:49 < RangerZ> umm... thats not all it says 10:49 < aestetix_> god damnit 10:49 < aestetix_> fucking shellshock 10:50 <@Bahhumbug> silence or lack of esistance _doesn't_ constitute consent. 10:50 < RangerZ> same with ohio state univ's rape policy its actually quite clear on what is consent 10:50 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: tell that to the TSA 10:51 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: This is only the tip of the iceberg. Red Hat has multiple bz entries embargoed at the moment and it's likely they are bash related. 10:51 < aestetix_> ugh 10:51 < RangerZ> sure rush limbaugh was able to make it sound like "omg every boy is going to be accused of rape now"... but thats b/c he skipped over the "verbal _or non verbal actions_ indicating consent" 10:52 < RangerZ> Evilpig: if you're with a girl, who has drunk more than she can handle, and she can't even give you non-verbal consent... then yeah... thats rape 10:53 <@Bahhumbug> I have to agree. 10:53 <@Bahhumbug> If she can't say yes you assume no. 10:53 <@Mirage> So, if a drunk chick approaches you in a club and says "hey your cute, let's go fuck in the bathroom", then it's rape? 10:53 <@Bahhumbug> Really, it's that simple. 10:53 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: if she's drunk, she could say "yes, fuck me now, fuck me damnit" and it's still rape under that law 10:54 <@Mirage> Will a BAC test be required in order to determine validity of consent? 10:54 <@Evilpig> by being drunk she was unwilling to give consent 10:54 <@Evilpig> period 10:54 <@Evilpig> rape 10:54 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: is it even worth updating systems to the new bash patch then? It sounds like they will continue to release more over time 10:54 <@Bahhumbug> Yes. 10:54 <@Bahhumbug> _ALWAYS_ update. 10:54 < aestetix_> Let me rephrase 10:54 < aestetix_> Should we run like 10 updates, or run one big batch update 10:54 <@Bahhumbug> 10 updates. 10:55 <@Bahhumbug> No downtime. 10:55 <@Bahhumbug> You have all of jack and shit to lose doing 10 updates. 10:55 < RangerZ> aestetix_: yeah, b/c otherwise script kiddies will have a field day 10:55 * aestetix_ sighs 10:55 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: except time 10:56 < aestetix_> so instead of relaxing and waiting for my flight I get to spend the 50 minutes frantically patching systems 10:56 <@Bahhumbug> What fucking time? 10:56 <@Bahhumbug> yum update 10:56 <@Bahhumbug> apt-get whateverthefuckitis 10:56 <@Bahhumbug> Done. 10:57 <@Bahhumbug> You act like this is difficult. It's not. 11:02 < aestetix_> It was until I just modified a script to auto install it 11:03 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@98.240.51.138] has joined #se2600 11:04 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:08 -!- CRasH181 is now known as CRasH180 11:10 < aestetix_> It could be worse 11:10 < aestetix_> I could be working with Windows 11:10 < aestetix_> At leaset I don't have to reboot systems after installing updates 11:12 <@Bahhumbug> kernel/glibc you do. 11:12 < aestetix_> well yes 11:12 <@Bahhumbug> If if you have kpatch you still need to bounce it for glibc updates unless you know _exactly_ what you're doing. 11:12 <@Bahhumbug> s/If if/Even if/ 11:13 <@Bahhumbug> Hell, you run chef? You can do this in chef and just be done with it. 11:13 * aestetix_ grumbles 11:13 < aestetix_> I've been trying to finish chef for months. I keep getting hit with new issues to deal with 11:13 <@Bahhumbug> Why did you go with chef anyway? 11:14 < aestetix_> Originally because someone was going to do it for us. But that fell through 11:14 <@Bahhumbug> chef is pretty much yesterday's game. New deployments of cfg management are normally puppet / salt these days. 11:14 < RangerZ> i prefer puppet myself 11:14 <@Bahhumbug> (With ansible gaining market share) 11:14 < aestetix_> what's the python config tool 11:14 < aestetix_> ansible 11:14 < aestetix_> I'm not super keen on python, but god I hate ruby 11:14 <@Evilpig> I refuse to carry a salt shaker into the DC. fuck you guys, not doing it 11:14 < RangerZ> ^ 11:15 <@Bahhumbug> ruby blows horse cock 11:15 < CRasH180> Luke Kanies graduated with my Sister from Martin Luther King Magnet High School back in 1992 11:15 < RangerZ> ruby is ONLY good if all you do is generate it 11:15 < RangerZ> ruby shouldn't be human touched 11:15 <@Bahhumbug> Yep. He started puppet when he was still in Nashville. 11:15 < RangerZ> DSMs are NOT meant for human use in most points 11:15 <@Bahhumbug> Ruby is a shit language. 11:15 < aestetix_> Domain Specific M___? 11:15 <@Bahhumbug> It has shit frameworks aroun dit. 11:15 <@Bahhumbug> It doesn't scale. 11:16 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: that's why twitter used to go down so often 11:16 <@Bahhumbug> The whole gem thing is fraught with problems. 11:16 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: what's even more fun is when you have a package conflict because something was installed with apt-get and it was also installed with gem 11:16 <@Bahhumbug> That's a problem of your own making. 11:16 <@Bahhumbug> Don't mix. 11:17 <@Bahhumbug> It's like running cpan on an enterprise platform. 11:17 <@Bahhumbug> Don't do it. 11:17 <@Bahhumbug> Ever. 11:18 <@Dolemite> CRasH180: I used to work at Bluestar with Kanies. Very vitriolic person. 11:19 < CRasH180> asshole is a better word 11:19 < CRasH180> He is very smart, granted. Just an ass. At least from when I knew him 11:19 <@Dolemite> Yeah, he didn't care about burning bridges with ANYBODY 11:19 < CRasH180> Although, he might have changed 11:19 <@Bahhumbug> I know someone that worked at Puppet Labs until very recently and his reason for leaving was primarily Luke. 11:19 <@Dolemite> No, a good friend of mine is best friends with his sister. She says he's mellowed a little, but overall is still a jerk. 11:20 < aestetix_> There's something about ruby programmers 11:20 < aestetix_> Besides the absolute joke of calling them programmers 11:20 < CRasH180> Yeah my Sister and him had it out on several occasions 11:20 < CRasH180> She almost slugged him a few times 11:21 <@Dolemite> He bad mouthed me the entire time that I worked at Bluestar. The reason why? I wrote tools in PHP. That worked. 11:22 <@Dolemite> Or rather, his biggest gripe was that I stored data in MySQL the he felt should be in LDAP 11:23 < CRasH180> oh well, I don't really care tbh 11:23 <@Dolemite> My argument was that there wasn't an LDAP server already running to store configuration data, and since I had data that still needed an RDBMS, I'd just put it all in MySQL 11:23 < RangerZ> aestetix_: Domain Specific Meta-Language 11:23 < RangerZ> b/c thats what ruby is 11:23 < CRasH180> Oh, I understand. You had valid reasons and he did not care 11:24 < RangerZ> each 'application' of ruby is its own DSL 11:24 <@Dolemite> But hey, he's managed to create a vibrant company. Kudos to him. 11:24 < CRasH180> yep, yay and happy day! 11:25 < aestetix_> RangerZ: I think ruby is what you get when your abortion fails and you're stuck with a retard 11:25 < RangerZ> wow... 11:25 < RangerZ> thats fucked up, and I'd recommend you never repeat that again 11:26 < RangerZ> its insulting to both parties, b/c ruby is much worse than that, and mentally retarded would take offense 11:26 < aestetix_> hahaha 11:26 < aestetix_> Yeah I would not want to offend retards. They did not choose that life. 11:27 < RangerZ> and honestly, most MR people i've met have been less of assholes than THIS channel 11:27 < RangerZ> ....though... thats not saying much 11:28 <@Bahhumbug> Dolemite: He and some VC vultures. 11:31 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: don't repeat yourself like that 11:31 < RangerZ> lol 11:31 <@Evilpig> haha "The Bash automotive corporation has issued a massive recall for all of their free cars. A flaw has been discovered where, when completely submerged, water can leak through the vents and drown the occupants." 11:32 <@Dagmar> Oh that's good 11:35 <@Dagmar> I suppose after this everything's going to be a "remote" code execution vulnerability 11:36 <@shapr> good morning? 11:37 < RangerZ> not for aestetix_ 11:37 < aestetix_> ugh 11:37 < aestetix_> http://www.missbananabiker.com/2014/09/18/hope-less-at-hope-x/ 11:38 <@Evilpig> aestetix_: i'm stopping at PMDD. that says this person is clinicly insane and not to continue 11:38 < aestetix_> what does PMDD mean 11:39 < RangerZ> Premenstrual dysphoric disorder  11:39 < aestetix_> what 11:39 < RangerZ> http://www.webmd.com/women/pms/premenstrual-dysphoric-disorder 11:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: Sexual Health: Your Guide to Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (at www.webmd.com) 11:40 < RangerZ> "Premenstrual dysphoric disorder, or PMDD, is a severe form of premenstrual syndrome (PMS). The symptoms of PMDD are similar to those of PMS but are severe enough to interfere with work, social activities, and relationships." 11:40 < aestetix_> oh god 11:40 < aestetix_> So it's like a jacked up version of PMS? 11:41 < RangerZ> umm... thats what its ays 11:41 < RangerZ> says* 11:41 <@Dagmar> In other words, they transform into a monster bitch normally only seen in cheesy ninja movies 11:41 < aestetix_> I'm just like... I'm sorry the conference was so crowded that someone touched your boob in passing 11:42 < aestetix_> Maybe we should have told Snowden "sorry, we don't have capacity to have you and also make sure no crazybitch boobs are touched" 11:44 <@Dagmar> I'm a iittle suprised she doesn't realize that it's socially normal to make light of an overcrowded elevator 11:44 < aestetix_> Three words I live by 11:44 < aestetix_> Get. Over. It. 11:45 <@Dagmar> ...and it's _not_ neutralization of rape culture or anything like that 11:45 <@Evilpig> when you've got an axe to grind you take the normal interaction and twist them into personal attrocities 11:45 <@Dagmar> She doesn't have an axe to grind. 11:45 < aestetix_> What I don't get 11:45 < aestetix_> We had a CoC. And people were demanding there be someone they could report to 11:45 <@Dagmar> Right there at the top, she says up front that she's got some pretty serious social anxiety issues 11:45 <@oddball> Ah... "micro-aggression" "you glanced wrong at me!" 11:45 <@Evilpig> four worst words to hear on a crowded elevator. "sorry, that was me" 11:45 * aestetix_ sighs 11:46 < aestetix_> Dagmar: she had the option to watch the stream like everyone else. 11:46 < RangerZ> "I’m not claustrophobic — in fact, my therapist made me put storage bins under my bed so I’d stop hanging out down there because it is apparently a ‘regressive’ behavior." 11:46 < RangerZ> is this high satire? 11:46 <@Dagmar> Whatcha wanna bet tho that the fauxmies will magically not remember that 11:46 < aestetix_> Keep in mind HOPE has *never* hit capacity before. 11:47 < aestetix_> So all these people expecting HOPE to do something... why don't they do something 11:47 <@Dagmar> THey will act like this person's reactions were all because of "those boorish men" 11:47 < aestetix_> I'm sure she has daddy isssues, which is fine. I am not her fucking therapist. 11:47 <@oddball> Wait wait wait... She decided that it would be a good idea to go to HopeX even though "I am also not a hacker, or much of a computer wiz. " 11:48 < aestetix_> If she has solid tangible actionably suggestions that are simple.... that's one thing. 11:48 < RangerZ> she knows HTML and CSS 11:48 < RangerZ> she's fine 11:48 < RangerZ> lol 11:48 <@Bahhumbug> That's a reason to go to hope? 11:48 <@Dagmar> "My therapist and psychiatrist are both label-averse, so other than .C-PTSD. and .major depression. (oh, and also, according to my shrink, .PMDD.), I don.t have an absurd abundance of diagnoses, even if I probably should." 11:49 <@Dagmar> The _very_ first paragraph 11:49 < aestetix_> Ok, my flight is boarding. ttfn 11:49 <@Evilpig> which flight so we can call in a terrorist threat? 11:49 <@Bahhumbug> Damn it. 11:49 <@Bahhumbug> Get out of my head. 11:49 < aestetix_> air force one 11:50 <@oddball> Dagmar: Yeah.... "they're label averse, so they gave me all these labels." 11:50 <@Dagmar> Well, for what little detail is there, I still applaud her honesty becuse I get the feeling a whole lot of similar stories are coming from people who are either witholding information, or who are undiagnosed 11:51 <@Dagmar> She gets points for trying to overcome her issues, but loses them again for not contemplating that possibly what she was viewing was normal and reasonable 11:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@98.240.51.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:52 <@Dagmar> It's totes fine for someone to not want to wind up in such close quarters that they have their boobs pushed into someone's face--the possibility is not an egregious violation of civil rights. 11:52 <@Dagmar> All ya gotta do is yell "Oi! Not enough space bitches!" 11:52 <@Evilpig> I was at hope and in those elevators. I was more worried about where my laptop bag was and who could get their hands in it, then if I was too close to someone's chesticles 11:53 < RangerZ> 'knee kiss' wtf... really 11:53 <@Evilpig> what is that? 11:53 <@Evilpig> is that a thing? 11:53 < RangerZ> when the guy sitting next to her had his knee bump into hers 11:54 <@Evilpig> really? oh jesus christ 11:54 <@Dagmar> yeah. 11:54 <@Bahhumbug> Yes, my son? 11:54 < RangerZ> (i honestly thought she meant some kiss where a guy kissed her knee or back of the knee) 11:54 <@Dagmar> This thing reads like a 'what it's like to be terribly neurotic' 11:54 <@Evilpig> I picture something far more egregious like some dude kneeling down and literally kissing a bare knee 11:54 < RangerZ> b/c.... the back of the knee is an erogenous zone on a lot of women... lol 11:55 <@Dagmar> I feel bad for her, but she's not describing anything that's socially abnormal or unreasonable 11:55 <@Evilpig> ls 11:55 <@Evilpig> bah! 11:55 <@Bahhumbug> i/o error 11:55 < RangerZ> not as bad as the time you 'wget www.redtube.com' 11:55 <@Dagmar> ...but just the same, i'm sure the fauxmies will say this is an example of normalization of rape culture which is why I don't view a calm crowd of people in an overcrowded situation anything other than boring 11:55 < RangerZ> into chat 11:56 <@oddball> Sorry lady, I don't think "policy nerd" and journalism conferences really count as "nerd conferences." THose sound like professional conferences. 11:57 <@Dagmar> "I didn.t want to be groped or harassed." 11:57 <@Dagmar> ...and blessedly, she was not either of these things. 11:57 <@Dagmar> IMagine that. 11:57 <@Dagmar> "I didn.t want to deal with crowds and slow elevators." 11:57 < RangerZ> but she was knee kissed Dagmar 11:57 < RangerZ> how dare he 11:57 <@Dagmar> She should go to Phreaknic 11:57 <@Dagmar> There will likely be neither. 11:58 <@oddball> Wait... photography without explicit concent from everyone in the picture is against HOPE rules? 11:58 < RangerZ> also, don't forget to cancel your hotel reservations if you happen to have made them months and months ago 11:58 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: Seriously? 11:59 <@Bahhumbug> That's completely fucked up. 11:59 <@oddball> From that article: "Someone does snap a photo without getting consent, which is also a code of conduct issue" 11:59 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind some people are still very squirrely about what could happen to their professional reputation if it's discovered they attended a hacker conference 11:59 <@Bahhumbug> FUCK that. 12:00 <@Dagmar> This isn't a paranoid creepshots measure 12:00 < RangerZ> oddball: no, she WANTS it to be a CoC issue 12:00 <@oddball> ahh.... ok 12:00 <@oddball> fuck her, then. 12:00 <@Bahhumbug> If you're so paranoid... don't go. 12:00 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Is it a CoC issue? aestetix could speak to that 12:00 < RangerZ> he just left for a flight 12:00 < RangerZ> so 'ehh' 12:00 <@Dagmar> ...but either way, such rules aren't unheard fo 12:00 <@oddball> Dagmar: Sorry, you go to a conference, don't be shocked if someone takes your picture while you're wandering around the lobby or in a panel. 12:00 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that 12:01 <@Dagmar> THey're just not there because of fear of gender oppression or something 12:01 <@Bahhumbug> And good luck enforcing some idiotic measure that like as well. 12:01 < RangerZ> just wait for google glasses' that people can't tell you're wearing 12:01 < RangerZ> lol 12:01 <@Bahhumbug> It's either getting someone tossed with a false accusation or permit venue staff to look at your camera / phone to ensure you don't have photos of people. 12:01 <@Bahhumbug> Either way, it's stupid. 12:02 <@Dagmar> No, people with clearances are jumpy like that 12:02 <@Dagmar> We've had them at PhreakNIC several times 12:02 <@Dagmar> They're like "I can't even be photographed drinking" 12:02 <@Dagmar> 'cuz someone would argue that their alcoholism makes them less trustworthy and safe. 12:03 <@oddball> Sorry, to a certain extent, conventions are, and should be, considered public space. If you "can't be seen there," then don't fucking go. 12:03 <@Dagmar> SOme companies work hard at retaining only the _most_ boring and _least_ adventurous employees possible, regardless of what the incredible risk of stagnation is 12:04 <@Dagmar> I kinda figure they shoudl go wearing a kerchief and hangover glasses like pop stars 12:04 <@oddball> There ya go 12:05 <@oddball> It's your problem if you "can't be photographed," not mine. 12:05 <@Dagmar> Part of this girl's problem is that since she doesn't go out of the house much, she does not understand that there are different standards for personal space in different areas 12:05 <@Dagmar> The cultural standard almost exclusively varies by population density 12:05 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: +1 12:06 <@Dagmar> In a big city with lots of people, the line at the ATM or Starbucks is going to be pretty compact 12:06 <@Dagmar> Around here, the lines tend to have two feet or more between each person 12:06 <@Evilpig> starbucks, yes. atm... people give you clearance 12:06 <@Dagmar> In San Fran it averaged half that or less 12:06 <@Dagmar> In Atlanta I see the same thing 12:06 <@oddball> Dagmar: Out of the house, fuck. She hides under her fucking bed on a regular basis. 12:07 <@Evilpig> ^ 12:07 <@Dagmar> You go out to Lebanon, the line at the ATM inter-person gap is closer to three feet 12:07 <@Evilpig> oddball has a good point. 12:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I know he does 12:07 <@Evilpig> article summed up as "bitch be crazy" 12:07 < RangerZ> oddball: lets be honest, if you had super PMS, you'd want to hide under your bed too 12:08 <@Evilpig> there's also medication for pmdd 12:08 < RangerZ> and no one would blame you for hiding under your bed when PMS hits your house as is... lol 12:08 <@Bahhumbug> Nah. He's be out killing people. 12:08 <@Evilpig> can't speak as to the effectiveness of it though 12:08 <@Dagmar> I dont' see PMDD mentioned in this anywhere. 12:09 <@Corydon76> Used to be the policy at gay clubs in Nashville that you couldn't bring in a camera or take photos, because there are various patrons who are not out at work 12:09 <@Evilpig> ctrl+f pmdd 12:09 <@Dagmar> Ahh 12:09 <@Evilpig> it was in the second line I think 12:09 <@Dagmar> Okay I missed it 12:10 <@Dagmar> Still this woman isn't as twisted up as those who are going to pick up her story and run withit 12:10 <@Dagmar> I feel like I should do a G+ post congratulating her on getting out of thouse 12:10 <@Dagmar> s/thouse/the house/ 12:11 <@Dagmar> ...but she should have known that what happened was going to happen because... popular conferences are always crowded. 12:11 <@Dagmar> Always.\ 12:12 <@oddball> I'm pretty sure she's only ever gone to professional cons and didn't know that HOPE (along with any hacker con or scifi con) is a different beast. 12:12 <@oddball> The folks that attend professional cons tend to behave like they're on the clock the entire time. 12:14 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: Mirage: Whomever else runs RHEL / CentOS / SL / Springdale / Whatever: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1213043 12:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: After updating the patches for shellshock vulnerability, at jobs are no longer working in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 - Red Hat Customer Portal (at access.redhat.com) 12:15 <@Evilpig> I need to clean my window. http://webcam.wilpig.com/ 12:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pig is still alive cam (at webcam.wilpig.com) 12:22 -!- vaneck [~vaneck@section9.vaneckzero.com] has joined #se2600 12:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o vaneck] by ChanServ 12:26 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:31 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: what's the model number on your lable printer? 12:32 <@Dolemite> Hang on, let me see 12:32 <@brimstone> https://ello.co/quinn/post/Ww6F2_1w9G5uB9tTSdyQKQ 12:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ello | quinn (at ello.co) 12:32 <@Dolemite> Panduit TDP 43ME 12:33 <@Evilpig> that makes the wrap around cable labels? or you printing flag style stuff? 12:33 <@Dolemite> It's just different media 12:33 <@Dolemite> The printer will do either 12:33 <@Dolemite> We use the wrap around labels 12:33 <@Evilpig> we're about to relabel a shitload of cables and dan has decided to get a computer connected printer 12:34 <@Dolemite> That one has printed a shitload for us here 12:34 <@Dolemite> And the import from Excel makes it quite simple 12:36 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: do you know if it is osx compatible? can't really tell from their site. 12:37 <@Evilpig> gotta run to pickup lunch. bbiab 12:40 <@Dolemite> The Easy-Mark software is a Window app, but since the printer connects via USB, you should be able to easily run it in a VM 12:41 <@Dolemite> That's the software that Panduit provides for free. There are Third Party labeling apps that work on Mac and should have the profile for the printer available. 12:55 <@Dagmar> Amazing how his tune changes now 13:00 <@Dagmar> It's likely that it speaks PCL6 or PS 13:01 <@Dagmar> It's actually been awhile since I've seen any printer that didn't do PCL6 13:02 <@shapr> everybody loves postscript 13:03 <@Dagmar> Well, everyone that isn't paranoid 13:03 <@Dagmar> The paranoid know PS has it's dangers 13:04 <@Dolemite> It doesn't do PCL 13:04 <@Dolemite> Label printers are a special breed 13:04 <@Dagmar> JWZ posted a really cool postscript bit sometime back that would go into a printer and send copies of your document elsewhere 13:04 <@Dagmar> ...and another one that would randomly black out words in any future documents printed. 13:11 <@Evilpig> i'd like to see that 13:16 <@Dagmar> Not having any luck searching for it, but I know it existed prior to 2001 so that's not surprising 13:17 <@shapr> I've written postscript code before, it's fun. 13:18 <@Dagmar> I remember when I saw it thinking it would have been very handy to show to the people in that building next to BiCentennial Mall 13:18 <@Dagmar> They had these two Optiplex networked printers that they used to print prisoner release papers 13:18 <@Dagmar> I convinced them that possibly these needed to be behind a firewall because I could print to them from my house. 13:19 <@Dagmar> ...which I did. 13:20 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't have even thought of it had I not been there to replace part of the system board and had to reconfigure them 13:21 <@Dagmar> I was like, "Wait, this thing got a public IP. That can't be right. *checks other printer*" 13:21 <@Dagmar> A building where every square inch of the place has camera monitoring it, but wide open network-accessible printers. 13:26 <@shapr> ha 13:26 <@shapr> HA 13:26 <@shapr> that's awesome 13:27 <@Dagmar> It's just one of the things i've got to show that I can handle temptation just fine 13:27 <@Dagmar> If anything, I find temptation to be pretty mausing 13:27 <@Dagmar> er amusing 14:12 <@Dagmar> I wonder... 14:12 <@Dagmar> So I've got this little 2.5m EL wire kit and I'm thinking the AA batteries are kind heavy 14:12 <@Bahhumbug> https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Shellshock%3A+A+Collection+of+Exploits+seen+in+the+wild/18725 14:12 <@GateKeeper> Title: InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - Shellshock: A Collection of Exploits seen in the wild (at isc.sans.edu) 14:12 <@Dagmar> I wonder if I can get away with switching them out for a small stack of button cells 14:13 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: depends upon how much current it draws 14:14 <@Corydon76> Any 1.5v battery should in theory be able to power it, but the current will affect how long it lasts 14:15 <@Corydon76> (The reverse is also true. If AA batteries don't last to your need, you can replace them with D cells, and lengthen that time) 14:17 <@Dagmar> This is for a thing that'll be hanging from a parrot drone 14:17 <@Dagmar> The flight time for these is only marginally longer than a large paper airplane thrown with the assistance of a rubber band 14:17 <@Dagmar> My primary concern is actually whether or not the button cells might explode 14:18 <@Dagmar> ANYTHING can outlast the drone 14:18 <@Corydon76> Why would they explode? 14:18 <@Dagmar> Something attempting to draw too much current 14:19 <@Dagmar> ...and that button cells have no room for bullshit 14:19 <@Corydon76> Nah, they're pretty heavy duty. They're better built than AA batteries, usually 14:20 <@Dagmar> Okay, so there's a really good chance I can get away with ditching most of the weight then 14:20 <@Dagmar> I've got a 2'2"x1'3" wooden frame made with some ridiculously thin dowel rods, covered with fiberglass screen door material 14:21 <@Corydon76> You looking at CR2032s or something even smaller? 14:21 <@Dagmar> The batteries weigh more than the screen, the wire, and the power adapter put together 14:21 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to go to the store and look for something cheap that's at least the size of a nickel 14:21 <@Dagmar> I'll just electrical tape a few together in parallel 14:22 <@Corydon76> CR2032 / CR2024 / CR2016 is probably the class of battery, then. The difference is thickness (and thus amperage) 14:22 <@Dagmar> I'm going to try to get the weight down before I find out that just tying it all together with string and seeing if the drone will lift them at all _before_ spending all this time on it was a bad idea 14:22 <@Dagmar> If they'll light the thing for ten minutes that would be enough 14:23 <@Dagmar> I might need more later after I get over my worries about really unstable lipo replacement batteries 14:23 <@Dagmar> The stock drone battery is large and sports a whopping 900mAh capacity 14:23 <@Mirage> Evilpig: damn you and ayour mkv 14:23 <@Evilpig> lol 14:23 <@Evilpig> what now? 14:23 <@Dagmar> Three cell phone batteries would meet the 11.1v criteria and easily triple the flight time 14:23 <@Dagmar> ...but... 14:23 <@Dagmar> They explode. 14:24 <@Mirage> Evilpig: just a generally bitching 14:24 <@Dagmar> So... maybe they're not the best thing to mount on something that is prone to randomly dropping from the sky at a great height. ;) 14:24 <@Corydon76> Typically only when charging those 14:24 <@Dagmar> ...or when they suffer a shock. 14:24 <@Dagmar> like being hit by a hammer 14:24 <@Dagmar> ...or in this case, falling 200+ feet onto asphalt. 14:24 <@Corydon76> Oh, yeah, if you rupture the case, then yes 14:24 <@Evilpig> mirage they look so pretty though 14:25 <@Dagmar> If a bat flies into this damn thing and knocks it out of the sky I won't be surprised 14:25 <@Corydon76> And if the case ruptures, you don't want to be anywhere in the vicinity. When the internals mix with water vapor, Hyrofluoric Acid fumes are the result 14:25 <@Dagmar> It would also be really embarassing to have to explain to park rangers how I managed to set the top of a tree on fire. 14:26 <@Dagmar> At least there are no power lines over the park where I intend to use this 14:26 <@Dagmar> My guess is that the extra load is going to reduce flight time to about 8 minutes total 14:27 <@Dagmar> If I can make this go, my next thing is going to be to use some more really thin dowels and crepe paper to put a lampshade on it, and then spray it with glow-in-the-dark paint, and illuminate it from the inside with UV LEDs and some button cells 14:27 <@Corydon76> So is this a helo-type drone, or an aero-type drone? 14:27 <@Dagmar> It's a parrot 14:28 <@Corydon76> Helo then 14:28 <@Dagmar> http://coolmaterial.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Parrot-AR-Drone-Quadricopter.jpg 14:28 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you'd be explaining to black ops from your terrorist cell 14:28 <@Dagmar> heheh 14:29 <@Corydon76> I was just thinking if you could manage to add a helium or hydrogen balloon to the device, you may be able to counteract some of the drag and even extend flight time 14:30 <@Corydon76> And with a quadrocopter, you probably could manage that 14:30 <@Corydon76> As long as your lift is not greater than the weight of the device plus payload 14:31 <@Corydon76> Otherwise, it ain't coming back down 14:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah well, the other thing is the devices are incredibly tetchy about "abnormal flight" considerations 14:32 <@Dagmar> They can and will detect that something is out of balance with the rotors and to a "panic stop" 14:32 <@Dagmar> ...which generally means a histrionic flip and shutdown. 14:33 <@Dagmar> ...and by 'histrionic' I mean it *does* try to flip over so it'll land upside down 14:33 <@Dagmar> Having something hanging from the bottom of it... maybe I want to avoid that 14:34 <@Dagmar> ...and light breezes 14:35 <@Dagmar> In a breeze the thing will struggle to maintain posiiton and only a madman would stick his fingers out to try and grab it when it's doing that 14:36 <@Dagmar> The fucker *stings* 14:36 <@Corydon76> I suggest hawk gloves for such an occasion. 14:37 <@Dagmar> I'm taking some small weights and fishing line with me 14:37 <@Dagmar> I'm fine with letting it have a rough landing 14:37 <@Dagmar> Trees on the other hand... I may need to use a bit of line to pull it down 14:38 <@Dagmar> At least attaching the lampshade to it will be easy 14:50 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-50.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 14:50 < RangerZ> well if that aint a bitch... 14:50 < RangerZ> can't connect except through ssl 14:50 < RangerZ> i was thinking finch was just bugging out of me :/ 14:52 * shapr hugs RangerZ 14:52 <@shapr> so far I have a source and sink 14:53 <@shapr> and my source has an associated reading 14:53 < RangerZ> huh? 14:53 <@shapr> Weren't you talking to me about this sensor data model? 14:53 < RangerZ> ohh... the simulation you're visulizing 14:53 <@shapr> right 14:53 < RangerZ> visualizing * 14:53 <@shapr> implementing, to be precise 14:53 < RangerZ> wait? 14:53 < RangerZ> what are you implementing? 14:53 <@shapr> trying to figure out a good object model for it 14:54 <@shapr> sensor nodes for IoT 14:54 < RangerZ> you realize I work in a building that wrote most of those specs right? 14:54 <@shapr> some are attached to the rpi, some are attached to the arduino on the rpi, some are attached to arduinos across an XBee connection 14:54 <@shapr> no? 14:54 <@shapr> tell me more! 14:54 < RangerZ> well... 'writing' 14:54 <@shapr> Which standards? 14:55 <@shapr> ZigBee? 14:55 < RangerZ> nah, modeling of cyber physical systems 14:55 < RangerZ> aka IoT 14:55 <@shapr> ok, where can I read more? 14:55 < RangerZ> aka Hybrid and embedded systems 14:55 < RangerZ> http://www.isis.vanderbilt.edu/ 14:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Welcome | Institute for Software Integrated Systems (at www.isis.vanderbilt.edu) 14:55 < RangerZ> but it won't be much worth reading 14:55 <@shapr> ooh 14:55 < RangerZ> its all academic work 14:56 <@shapr> I love taking academic work and making it happen in the real world. 14:56 < RangerZ> umm... you might cry when i show you ... but hold on... 14:56 <@shapr> uh oh 14:56 <@shapr> that kind of academia ... 14:56 < RangerZ> you have docker installed? 14:56 <@shapr> no? 14:57 < RangerZ> well webgme is dockerized, and is nice 14:57 < RangerZ> but hold on 14:57 < RangerZ> http://webgme.org/ 14:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: WebGME (at webgme.org) 14:57 <@shapr> ooh 14:57 < RangerZ> its a tool for making DSML 14:57 <@shapr> I love prototype oriented OO 14:57 <@shapr> not so fond of UML 14:57 < RangerZ> UML is garbage IMHO 14:57 <@shapr> I'm not a fan. 14:57 <@Corydon76> shapr: You're still using prototype? I thought everybody had switched to jQuery by now. 14:58 <@shapr> though this certainly is a nifty UI 14:58 < RangerZ> Corydon76: thats not the prototype he means 14:58 <@shapr> Corydon76: not the framework, the approach to OO 14:58 < RangerZ> the "prototype" pattern 14:58 <@shapr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype-based_programming 14:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Prototype-based programming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 14:58 <@Corydon76> RangerZ: you know I'm just messing with him, right? 14:58 <@shapr> psh 14:58 <@shapr> I loved Self, was very sad when Oak got chosen instead :-( 14:59 <@shapr> and then became Java 14:59 <@shapr> they could have made something awesome... but NOOO 15:00 < RangerZ> well, GME is a bit of a cludge to new users, but it allows you to model pretty much anything 15:01 < RangerZ> webGME is a lot easier, but I don't particularly like a few aspects of it 15:01 < RangerZ> but its also really nice 15:01 <@shapr> do they design mesh networks there too? 15:02 < RangerZ> have in the past 15:02 <@shapr> I have some ideas for simplified mesh network routing with bloom filters 15:02 < RangerZ> i read a paper on that a few years ago i think 15:02 <@shapr> oh really? 15:02 <@shapr> I should dig some 15:02 < RangerZ> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=4288930&tag=1 15:03 <@shapr> Huh, do you guys offer PhDs or Master's for this stuff at vandy? 15:03 < RangerZ> yeah 15:03 <@shapr> I've been out of academia for A WHOLE YEAR 15:03 < RangerZ> thats what my masters is in actually 15:03 <@shapr> figure it's time to get back into it 15:03 < RangerZ> my PhD is switching to more software focused 15:03 < RangerZ> http://scholar.google.com/ is your friend 15:03 < RangerZ> LOL 15:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: Google Scholar (at scholar.google.com) 15:03 <@shapr> what's it about? 15:03 < RangerZ> hold on 15:03 <@shapr> Yeah, I hit that regularly, and arxiv, and citeseer, and ... 15:04 <@shapr> I've been reading a nice PhD thesis "Visualization of Haskell Performance" recently http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~scpmw/static/thesis.pdf 15:06 <@Bahhumbug> Has anything useful other than darcs ever been done in Haskell? 15:06 <@shapr> yup, lots 15:06 <@Bahhumbug> (This isn't a troll, I am genuinely curious) 15:06 < RangerZ> yeah 15:06 < RangerZ> most of it is large scale data crunching 15:06 < RangerZ> of specific flavors 15:07 <@shapr> Yeah, xmonad, cryptol, bluespec, customer service stuff for AT&T, PHP compilation tools for facebook, much much more 15:07 <@shapr> xmonad is an X window manager 15:07 <@shapr> bluespec is what xilinx and intel use to check their chip designs 15:07 <@shapr> lots of customer facing stuff too, silk comes to mind 15:07 <@Dagmar> whew 15:07 <@Dagmar> Done screwing with the 6lb fishing line ("guppy line") for awhile now 15:09 <@shapr> Bahhumbug: it's easy to build websites in Haskell too 15:09 <@shapr> There are full sized web application server platforms. 15:10 <@Dagmar> There are full-sized web applications written in lisp and java, too 15:10 <@Dagmar> Doesn't necessarily make them a good idea. 15:10 <@shapr> Yup, and Erlang has been recently successfull 15:11 <@Evilpig> raise your hand if you're currently holding 96 ports of serial console server 15:11 * Evilpig raises his hand 15:11 <@Dagmar> Raise your hand if you think wilpig should wash his hands when he's done... because _serial_ 15:11 <@shapr> my hands are busy typing code :-P 15:11 <@Evilpig> we have something like 10 of these 15:11 <@Bahhumbug> Eh? I thought FB was strictly hhvm? 15:11 < RangerZ> raise your hand if you think wilpig should just wash his hands because Tumblr 15:13 < RangerZ> is there a way to tell the bandwidth different processes are using? 15:13 < RangerZ> or just nethogs? 15:13 <@shapr> yeah, nethogs 15:13 <@shapr> lots of fun tools here: http://kkovacs.eu/cool-but-obscure-unix-tools 15:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cool, but obscure unix tools :: Software architect Kristof Kovacs (at kkovacs.eu) 15:14 <@Dagmar> It's possible, but you get to code it yourself. 15:14 <@shapr> that page suggests iftop, iptraf, and nethogs 15:15 <@Dagmar> It also appears to suggest using rsycn over ssh without using --protect-args 15:15 <@Dagmar> Never do that. 15:15 <@shapr> hm, zsh just escapes things for me 15:16 <@shapr> when I use tab completion 15:16 <@shapr> but I will in the future use --protect-args 15:16 <@shapr> I use rsync -aP for all copies because I like the progress display. 15:16 <@Evilpig> -aoP 15:17 <@shapr> ASPECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING? 15:17 <@shapr> poor little AoPers, defadvice has been doing that for decades 15:21 -!- klixa1 [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa1] by ChanServ 15:22 < RangerZ> and before everyone gets too comfortable with the bash-zilla stomping tokyo and major cities 15:23 < RangerZ> don't forget wed. we'll find out what the XEN Armageddon is 15:23 < RangerZ> its Oct 1 they are publicly announcing that right? 15:25 <@shapr> OH HAI klixa1! 15:25 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:26 <@Corydon76> I just love someone coming to me with a problem report for a system that I have no access to 15:27 <@shapr> hmm, I read somewhere that there was a way to modify ssh2's compression level 15:27 * shapr digs more 15:27 * shapr hits ~R in an ssh session 15:27 <@shapr> REKEY! 15:28 < RangerZ> is there a way to grab a snapshot of a continually updating process's output like nethogs? 15:28 < RangerZ> b/c for SOME fucking reason it doesn't have a 'snapshop' option 15:29 < RangerZ> b/c you'd never want to automate use of it or anything.... :/ 15:29 <@Dagmar> It's meant for realtime monitoring 15:29 <@Dagmar> There's other things for long-term accounting 15:30 < RangerZ> i really just want "bandwidth usage at this time of each process" 15:31 <@shapr> but wait, does compression work across a ProxyCommand hop as well? 15:31 <@shapr> or do I need to add -C to the ProxyCommand? 15:31 <@shapr> I bet I do 15:33 <@Corydon76> shapr: why are you using the compression option to begin with? 15:33 <@shapr> I like it :-P 15:33 <@shapr> I also use ControlMaster auto, ControlPersist 7m, ServerAliveInterval 60, ConnectionAttempts 2, and bunches of other fun options 15:33 <@Corydon76> You do know that it likely only slows down the transfer, unless you're moving a ton of easily compressable files, right? 15:33 <@shapr> my ~/.ssh/config is one of my fun hobbies 15:34 <@shapr> Yeah, I know, but I mostly DO 15:34 <@shapr> I mostly copy python scripts and monster csv files. 15:35 <@Corydon76> Ah. I move mostly images and movie files, which are already compressed 15:37 <@Corydon76> and if you're wondering what type of movies, they're mostly of "How to operate your new Bush Hog Whacker Master 2000 EIEIO" 15:37 <@shapr> I've used the EIEIO library in emacs 15:38 <@Corydon76> not to be confused with the BHWM 2000 EIEIA, which is completely different 15:38 <@shapr> ok then 15:38 <@Corydon76> Yeah, exactly 15:40 <@Corydon76> Honda has an engine model called the GX160, which is actually composed of over 300 different designs. And no, I'm not kidding. 15:48 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 15:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:50 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 15:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:52 <@Mirage> Wow.. http://amzn.to/ZlcoyN 15:53 <@Mirage> Pricey, but highly detailed. 15:55 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:57 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 15:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 16:01 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:05 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Geez the pictures are larger than the figurine and even they're hyper-detailed 16:21 < RangerZ> glad to see Ferguson PD is putting blackout tape on their badges to hide their names 16:21 < RangerZ> or just not wearing their badges at all 16:21 < RangerZ> but they are wearing "I am darren wilson" wrist bands... 16:22 * RangerZ gives up on that fucking PD 16:39 -!- klixa1 is now known as klixa 16:40 <@Bahhumbug> It took you THIS long to reach that decision. I said the day after this nonsense started that the entire department should have been taken over by the state or feds and all duly sworn Ferguson cops should have been terminated. 16:40 < RangerZ> I'm an optimist by default 16:41 < RangerZ> but fuck that place 16:41 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/09/29/good2go_a_new_app_for_consenting_to_sex.html 16:56 <@Corydon76> RangerZ: Apparently you missed that most of the cops on the Ferguson police force were previously terminated by a neighboring town who realized the entire force was corrupt, dissolved the department, and fired all the cops, because it was just an organization with "Legal Liability" written all over it. 17:15 < RangerZ> honestly, i only kept up with a little bit 17:15 < RangerZ> I'm more of a "i'll wait until all the evidence comes out" type , and honestly now... they should do the same fucking thing 17:15 < RangerZ> b/c these PO are POS 17:43 < RangerZ> wow... a new techno song based off the old mortal combat theme... i haven't heard this in a while, lol 18:15 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 18:16 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@68-191-4-34.static.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@DHCP-129-59-122-50.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:34 -!- ZombieChicken [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:40 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:44 -!- ZombieChicken [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has joined #se2600 18:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ZombieChicken] by ChanServ 18:49 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:00 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:02 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:20 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:30 < RangerZ1> news from 1 year from now... The Fappening pt 105: Internet Hate edition: Anne Coulter, Moot, PewDiePie, Bill Maher, and Hilary Clinton 19:32 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFfjUMinFPk#t=38 kinda interesting 19:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: Batman Evolution - ThePianoGuys - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 19:32 < RangerZ1> plays all the batman themes in a row, via piano and chello 19:33 < RangerZ1> W/ batmobiles ... 19:33 < RangerZ1> but I would have liked to see the animated serie(s) 20:27 <@Dagmar> wat 20:27 <@Dagmar> Ann Coulter? 20:27 <@Dagmar> *shudder* 20:28 <@Dagmar> Surely you are joking 20:30 <@Dagmar> TELL ME YOU ARE JOKING 20:38 < RangerZ> i said pt 105 20:38 < RangerZ> and god... I'd be more afraid of clinton pics 20:39 < RangerZ> coulter is at least pretty from the neck down 20:39 < RangerZ> her brain just destroys the rest of it 20:39 < RangerZ> or lack there of 20:59 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@12.218.121.130] has joined #se2600 21:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 21:00 -!- Guest19285 [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mnjnhorhzsqjpwov] has joined #se2600 21:00 -!- Guest19285 is now known as klixa-cloud 21:00 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mnjnhorhzsqjpwov] has quit [Changing host] 21:00 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 21:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 21:00 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Changing host] 21:00 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mnjnhorhzsqjpwov] has joined #se2600 21:00 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by sendak.freenode.net 21:03 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I'm sorry 21:03 < RangerZ> I should have put a "Trigger Warning: scary nightmares" 21:34 <@Dagmar> I'm just glad it's not true 21:35 < RangerZ> yet 21:35 < RangerZ> just think about the scary future that we could be faced with 21:37 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:37 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:37 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 21:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 21:40 <@Dagmar> You keep your fuckin nightmares to yourself, mna 21:41 <@CRasH180> I thought you said to keep your f'in nightmares to yourself ma 21:41 <@CRasH180> Was wondering if your Mom was in the chat room 21:42 <@Shadow404> well, diaf shapr 21:44 < RangerZ> Shadow404: did someone tell you that the furrycon you wanted to go to was cancelled? how dare shapr 21:49 <@Shadow404> damn, inorite 21:50 < RangerZ> though... I gotta admit that some of the pics I've seen with korean and japanese girls as sexy cat girls.... isn't half bad at all... 21:50 < RangerZ> lol 21:50 < RangerZ> also... I'm really impressed by HongKong's protests 21:50 < RangerZ> the drove fly over was REALLY impressive 21:50 < RangerZ> I kinda wish we had them for ferguson MO no 21:51 < RangerZ> night vision drone with streaming....yes please.... 21:55 <@Shadow404> hehe, my gf has a pair of kitty ear's headband and also some clip on kitty ears 21:58 < RangerZ> there were two girls who wore cat ears/tails at the mall when I worked there 21:59 < RangerZ> they were 'kinda' cute... but their "omg they are crazier than what Dagmar would date" kinda ruined it and make people afraid... 22:09 <@Shadow404> heh, i hear that 22:41 < RangerZ> uncle phil from the fresh prince .... was the voice of shedder from TMNT cartoon 23:17 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@12.218.121.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@12.218.121.130] has joined #se2600 23:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 23:18 < RangerZ> ugh... 23:18 < RangerZ> someone's UPS is beeping 23:18 < RangerZ> and I was like...wtf... where is it 23:18 < RangerZ> then finally realized it was upstairs 23:22 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@12.218.121.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:54 -!- ware_ [ware@phneak.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:54 -!- ware [ware@phneak.net] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Tue Sep 30 00:00:09 2014