--- Log opened Sun Sep 28 00:01:00 2014 00:01 <@Shadow404> i want it now! 00:02 <@Wilpig_> but you're a nobody 00:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: he's a somebody to his girl, don't insult her bad choices any more, she must already feel bad enough 00:05 * RangerZ|Laptop hugs Shadow404 00:05 * Wilpig_ hands RangerZ|Laptop some anti-bacterial wipes for the areas he touched Shadow404 with 00:20 <@Wilpig_> Shadow404: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202982359110314&l=31da52c767 00:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Photo (at www.facebook.com) 00:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: I had ebola-chan approved hazmat suit 00:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> .... imagine if a hazmat suit company did that now...hehe 01:10 <@Dagmar> Warning: Hazmat suits are not recreational wear 01:12 <@Wilpig_> i'm out 01:12 <@Wilpig_> later 01:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> they are in the Shadow404 house 01:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> but thats another story....allll.... together 02:54 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dbi-8rPShE I'm only 4min in... and I've already had to stop the video so my laughing wouldn't drown out the sound of the video 03:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: GamerGate Part 1: The Path Weve Taken - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 03:30 <@Dagmar> Is that the three hour IA video? 03:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> no 34min 03:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> honestly i started that but just stopped it, he got into too much random personal political beliefs etc, b/c it wasn't about anything, just a "i'm going to ramble time" 03:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> THIS... this is golden ... the start... 04:18 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 -!- forgottenwizard [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has joined #se2600 05:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o forgottenwizard] by ChanServ 05:40 -!- ZombieChicken [~weechat@unaffiliated/forgottenwizard] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:40 -!- forgottenwizard is now known as ZombieChicken 08:18 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.148.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:00 < aestetix_> oh god 11:00 < aestetix_> not another gamergate video 11:04 < aestetix_> Corydon76: have you ever had to use baby wipes on a guy before you fucked him? 11:14 < aestetix_> ok 10 mintues of that video is all I can take 11:21 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:34 -!- Mirage [~mirage@static-173-57-28-51.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 11:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 12:20 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 12:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 12:52 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: Basically, the gist of the video is that a bunch of conservatives with their own spotty pasts went after feminists, and the backdrop happened to be the gaming industry. Same fight, different venue. 12:53 < aestetix_> Corydon76: that reminds me of how the people who are militantly anti-gay often are masking their own homosexual tendencies 12:53 < aestetix_> By militantly, I mean lynching level 12:53 <@Corydon76> Milo Yiannopoulous' past of creating an awards ceremony, and then ignoring the judges' votes to give the awards to who the backer wanted... yeah, that right there is dirty. 12:56 <@Corydon76> Not saying that gaming journalists aren't corrupted by friendship and favors from the gaming industry, but they only chose to go after the one scenario that suited their political aims 12:56 < aestetix_> right 12:56 < aestetix_> It sounds like it's an outbreak of people who are trying to be clever but are really bad at it 12:56 <@rhia> gee, who'd have thought anyone associated with breitbart would be a sleazy jackass? --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 13:06:31 2014 --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 13:06:42 2014 13:06 -!- Wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 13:06 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 46 nicks [24 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 13:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Wilpig] by ChanServ 13:06 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 20 secs 13:09 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 13:14 <@SuMo_D> http://crashworks.org/if_programming_languages_were_vehicles/ 13:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: If programming languages were vehicles (at crashworks.org) 13:24 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: wtfsleepomg] 13:28 < aestetix_> Ok fucking seriously 13:28 < aestetix_> SNL actors need to do some coke 13:32 <@SuMo_D> why is that show still on the air.... 13:33 < aestetix_> http://www.nbc.com/node/140061/video/1093541?auto=true#vc140056=1 13:33 <@oddball> SuMo_D: Because there's still enough sad sacks that have nothing else to do on Saturday night? 13:34 <@oddball> Oh, and there are folks that tell me that its current "humor" is hillarious. 13:35 < aestetix_> The clip I just linked would never be aired today 13:37 <@Corydon76> You should go back and watch some of the really old shows, and tell me if you think they're really any more funny or clever than what's produced today. 13:37 < aestetix_> The issue is that they have no courage to make actual political statements. 13:37 < aestetix_> Corydon76: like the clip I just linked 13:37 <@Corydon76> Point-Counterpoint, for example. 13:39 <@SuMo_D> I had a roomate in NYC who's dream was to be on SNL 13:39 <@SuMo_D> she camped out for every show for two seasons 13:39 < aestetix_> Maybe it they had better guests... 13:40 < aestetix_> Corydon76: one of my faovrite episodes is one from probably 1975 with richard pryor as the guest 13:41 < aestetix_> But yeah. I haven't seen an episode in a very long time where my reaction is "wait, can they really say that?" 13:41 <@SuMo_D> yeah I grew up watching Dan Aykroyd, Steve Martain, Jim Belushi... loved that shit... but I was 7 so I donno 13:42 < aestetix_> they should let me be a writer 13:42 < aestetix_> I'd make a regular segment of "Health Tips from Dr. Penis" 13:42 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: which, "Word Association" with Chevy Chase? 13:42 < aestetix_> Corydon76: yes 13:42 < aestetix_> But the whole episode is good 13:44 < aestetix_> (I have the season box set from 1975) 13:44 < aestetix_> I mean not all the episodes are good 13:44 < aestetix_> Although I have questioned if that's because they needed context I don't have 13:44 <@Corydon76> That's the nature of sketch comedy 13:44 < aestetix_> Yes, but some of them *were* good 13:44 < aestetix_> Is there anything funn that came out of the last year of SNL? 13:44 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:44 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 13:44 <@Corydon76> How much of the joke are you missing if you watch Monty Python's TV episodes without the benefit of knowledge of the state of the British economy and political climate at the time they were written? 13:50 < aestetix_> Here's a fun sketch idea: Ann Coulter teaching a sex ed class --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 13:50:16 2014 --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 13:50:38 2014 13:50 -!- Wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 13:50 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 45 nicks [23 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 13:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Wilpig] by ChanServ 13:50 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 13:52 < aestetix_> Ann Coulter teaching abstinence only to recovering crackheads? 13:52 < aestetix_> That could actually be hilarious 13:52 <@Corydon76> You're just making up ridiculous suggestions 13:52 <@rhia> Ann Coulter going home to wear her hemp clothes, smoke pot, and weed her organic garden 13:52 <@Corydon76> rhia: ++ 13:52 < aestetix_> "Ann Coulter: psychedelic therapist" 13:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 107 secs 13:52 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: the reason why my and rhia's scenarios are believable is that they start with a kernel of truth --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 13:59:57 2014 --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 14:00:21 2014 14:00 -!- Wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 14:00 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 45 nicks [23 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 14:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Wilpig] by ChanServ 14:01 <@Corydon76> And the challenge for writers isn't having a single brainstorming session, but writing lots of sketches week in and week out 14:01 < aestetix_> Which cocaine helps with 14:01 <@Corydon76> Enough to fill 1.5 hours 14:01 <@Corydon76> And unlike with computer programming, they have a hard and fast deadline. 14:01 <@Corydon76> You can't push off a live show until later 14:01 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 116 secs 14:06 < aestetix_> I wonder if John Oliver's writers use a lot of cocaine 14:06 <@Corydon76> Forcing yourself to produce week in and week out is exhausting. I've heard a number of writers actually have had writing binges, where they have a bunch of sketches pre-written but never aired, including sketches written during the off-season, so if they hit a dry spell, they have some leeway 14:06 <@Corydon76> I think there's a reason they typically don't drug-test writers. 14:06 < aestetix_> Except for SNL writers 14:06 <@Corydon76> But even a show like The Daily Show, they have 15-20 writers for a show where they only need to fill about 15 minutes (because the other 8 minutes is an interview) 14:06 <@Corydon76> They likely only drug test people if they're not producing. 14:06 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 14:25:38 2014 --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 14:25:46 2014 14:25 -!- Wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 14:25 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 44 nicks [22 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 14:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Wilpig] by ChanServ 14:26 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 22 secs 14:27 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 14:33:32 2014 --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 14:37:16 2014 14:37 -!- Wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 14:37 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 45 nicks [23 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 14:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Wilpig] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 14:42:22 2014 --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 14:43:57 2014 14:43 -!- Wilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 14:43 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 45 nicks [23 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 14:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Wilpig] by ChanServ 14:46 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 14:46 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 180 secs 14:48 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 14:52 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: wtfsleepomg] 14:56 <@rhia> http://www.smbc-comics.com/ 14:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal (at www.smbc-comics.com) 14:56 <@rhia> wrong channel 15:14 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:19 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:43 < aestetix_> god I love credit unions 15:45 <@Wilpig> que? 15:48 < aestetix_> I had an issue and they fixed it. 15:48 < aestetix_> In a phone call under 10 minutes. On a sunday. 15:48 < aestetix_> Something like BoA would take way longer just being on hold 15:48 <@Wilpig> I can do that for shit with my debit card but that's it usually 15:48 < aestetix_> And they'd give me attitude 15:59 < Shadow404> yeah 16:07 <@Dagmar> Man 16:07 <@Dagmar> This is really looking like one of the few impeccable games reviewers left is Yahtzee 16:10 <@Dagmar> Dude InternetAristocrat _has_ to be a prosecuting attorney of some kind 16:10 <@Dagmar> He is just ridiculously methodical 16:30 -!- sync350 [~sync@adsl-74-190-95-33.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 16:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 16:32 < aestetix_> http://www.righto.com/2014/09/mining-bitcoin-with-pencil-and-paper.html 16:34 -!- notlarry [~notlarry@wilpig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:36 < aestetix_> penis 16:46 < Shadow404> v-j-j 16:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow404] by ChanServ 17:07 <@Wilpig> bbiab. taking some shit offline --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 18:27:15 2014 18:27 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 18:27 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 45 nicks [23 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 18:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 18:27 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 7 secs --- Log closed Sun Sep 28 18:27:22 2014 --- Log opened Sun Sep 28 18:27:26 2014 18:27 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 18:27 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 45 nicks [23 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 18:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 18:27 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 0 secs 18:47 < RangerZ> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8379792 18:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: LibreSSL: More Than 30 Days Later | Hacker News (at news.ycombinator.com) 18:48 < RangerZ> things like this... are why I feel we need to just have the government pay teams and teams of developers to work on OSS 18:50 < aestetix_> they do already 18:50 < aestetix_> at least the NSA does 18:53 < RangerZ> hell the projects I work on are too 18:53 < RangerZ> but i mean 'en mass' 18:55 < RangerZ> hire all those "not quite rockstars" out in the bay 18:55 <@Corydon76> RangerZ: kudos if you can convince the Republican House to spend money on that. 18:56 < RangerZ> and tell them they have to give up skiny jeans and fixed wheel bikes... to apply for the job 18:56 < aestetix_> The only thing the Republican House will spend money on is invading other countries. 18:56 < RangerZ> just tell them it is prepping war munitions 18:56 < RangerZ> "digital war munitions" 18:56 < RangerZ> thats all 18:56 <@Corydon76> Or building a border fence to keep out brown people 18:57 < RangerZ> and yellow people 18:57 < RangerZ> don't worry, asains will be on that list again soon enough 19:00 <@Corydon76> Given that the NSA (IOW government funded development) inserted backdoors into various cryptosystems, do you really think it's a good idea for government to be behind coding the core crypto library on most systems? 19:04 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 19:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 19:12 -!- Shadow404 [~shadow404@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 19:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow404] by ChanServ 19:22 < aestetix_> God i hate millennials 19:24 <@Evilpig> i ordered pizza. I should put pants on 19:24 <@rhia> aestetix_, spoken like an old fart 19:24 < aestetix_> rhia: they are shiney, but shallow, vapid, and fleeting 19:25 < aestetix_> I hate when I'm walking down the street and they are so tuned into their phone that they bump into me 19:25 <@rhia> aestetix_, so, they're iphones? 19:25 < aestetix_> Almost all of them have iphones 19:26 <@rhia> oh, the youth are rude in public? yep, you're well on the way to old fogiehood 19:26 < aestetix_> I really don't know how they survive. 19:26 < aestetix_> Are these the signs of becoming a fogie? 19:27 <@Evilpig> I was laughing when I left work this afternoon and this car pulled up behind me. four people all had white earbuds in 19:27 < aestetix_> Were they all under 30? 19:27 < aestetix_> Or really, under 25 19:27 < aestetix_> That's the heart of the annoying ones 19:27 <@Evilpig> it was a family 19:28 <@Evilpig> at least looked like one. man / woman in front seats, two smaller people in back 19:28 < aestetix_> rhia: fwiw, I define a millennial as someone who has never known a world without the internet 19:31 <@Corydon76> Depending upon how you define the Internet, I've never known a world without the Internet 19:31 <@Evilpig> aol/compuserve/prodigy don't count. ;) 19:31 < aestetix_> Hmm. Maybe "modern internet" 19:31 <@Corydon76> Of course, in my early days, the Web was nonexistent 19:32 <@Corydon76> Evilpig: my father worked in state government. I had access to "the Internet" for a very long time. 19:32 < aestetix_> I mean, I doubt kids these days would have the patience to watch a modem load up a website 19:32 < aestetix_> Even if it's 56k 19:32 <@Corydon76> What if my access was only 1200 baud? 19:33 < aestetix_> But kids today are so fucking annoying. They use their iphones and take useless photos that they share on "social" media. 19:33 < aestetix_> I've seen people take selfies at a rave while they were on drugs. 19:33 < aestetix_> Why the hell would anyone do that 19:34 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: I'm sure if someone paid attention to you, they'd find a habit of yours which is utterly useless 19:34 < aestetix_> Yes, but I don't do it out in public, and then post on facebook to draw attention to myself. 19:35 <@Corydon76> So, you don't put one word statements referring to genitals on IRC, to draw attention to yourself? 19:36 <@Corydon76> Must be the other aestetix 19:36 < aestetix_> That's IRC, not twitter 19:36 <@Corydon76> Old school social networking 19:37 < RangerZ> its just adoption rate of the tech 19:37 < RangerZ> irc is widely used, historically, but not too much at any single time 19:38 <@Corydon76> That, and Twitter has a better permanent log 19:55 < aestetix_> penis 20:43 <@Dickie> [joke about "permanent log"] 20:44 <@Evilpig> I think Dickie is trying to let us know he's constipated. 20:46 <@Dickie> Nothing a little whiskey won't clear up 20:46 <@Dickie> But I'll drink a lot just to be safe 21:03 < aestetix_> I am unhappy with rackspace 21:04 < aestetix_> Thankfully, the time they are doing the reboots gives me enough of a window to make my flight 21:11 <@Bahhumbug> Rumor has it that the true reason for this push is that the hole in dom0 gives guests a way to gain access to either the dom0 or other guests running on the same hypervisor. If this is the case you _want_ this fixed. 21:12 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: I'm not arguing with that. 21:12 < aestetix_> What I'm unhappy about is that rackspace didn't give me a window until baiscally today 21:12 < aestetix_> I wanted to knwo *when* they were going to reboot things. 21:13 < aestetix_> Also, on a note that is not because of rackspace, I'm really fucking annoyed that people who for so long have ignored the security world, are now acting like headless chickens 21:14 <@Bahhumbug> They have 3 full DCs in the states and 2 or 3 across the pond. The logistics of this scale of reboot is something I am glad _I_ don't have to be orchestrating. 21:14 < aestetix_> yup 21:15 <@Bahhumbug> But don't worry, I know people at RS and I've been giving them shit over this since last week :) 21:15 < aestetix_> Also, it would not be so annoying if this hadn't popped up basically right after shellshock 21:23 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, "after". 21:23 <@Bahhumbug> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/09/still-more-vulnerabilities-in-bash-shellshock-becomes-whack-a-mole/ 21:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: Still more vulnerabilities in bash? Shellshock becomes whack-a-mole | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) 21:25 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOtmdHiCJNY 21:38 <@Dagmar> ttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/18/california-drought-gifs_n_5843534.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063 21:51 < aestetix_> I can't believe Im about to download the goat simulator 21:59 <@Dickie> I can't believe you told us 21:59 <@Dickie> So embarassing 22:02 < aestetix_> and my first server just rebooted 22:02 < aestetix_> and reloaded back into an error state 22:02 < aestetix_> so now I'm on the phone with them :/ 22:05 <@Dickie> Oh, God, it gets worse 22:05 <@Dickie> lost all respect for you 22:11 <@Bahhumbug> _THIS_ is what make you lose respect for him? 22:11 <@Bahhumbug> s/make/made/ 22:54 * aestetix_ bats eyelids 23:10 <@Bahhumbug> pn18 announcement mail just went out. 23:10 <@Bahhumbug> And as I suspected, but never had anyone bother to confirm, insane cunt bag is the VP of nlug now. 23:14 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:15 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 23:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 23:16 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: if you want to be mean, you can spoof an email from her that says "General Counsel" on it 23:16 <@Bahhumbug> I would do this... why? 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> http://ur1.ca/i9cfn -> mail that I referenced above. This went only to nlug, I've not seen it on the 2600 lists (yet). 23:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: #137276 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca) 23:18 < aestetix_> TO watch fireworks 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> I have no interest in engaging with that cunt. 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> I would be perfectly content, however, to hear that she was crushed against a viaduct by a semi. 23:20 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:21 <@Dagmar> I'm tempted to respond with 'pfft. no reason to go' 23:21 <@Dagmar> I'm going to wait until after Friday 23:22 <@Dagmar> If tunes haven't changed by then, I'm publicly declaring my refusal to attend a bitch conference 23:22 <@Bahhumbug> Nothing personal... but they don't care. 23:22 <@Bahhumbug> If they cared about such things they wouldn't have treated you with the derision they did at the last meeting. 23:22 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: it won't go to the 2600 lists. they aren't the target audience anymore 23:22 <@Dagmar> Oh I know they dont' care 23:23 <@Dagmar> They're sniffing their own farts 23:23 <@Bahhumbug> And frankly I think that's part of the problem, they don't care about burning bridges. 23:23 <@Dagmar> However, I'm not going to have people at PN wondering why I'm not there 23:23 <@Bahhumbug> Ok, I can understand that. 23:23 <@Dagmar> They're not smart enough to keep their fucking mouths shut, and they'll make up something 23:23 <@Dagmar> So I'm going to tell the truth 23:23 <@Bahhumbug> They'll make up a LOT of things. 23:23 <@Dagmar> It's not a hacker con anymore, clearly. 23:23 <@Evilpig> they've already made up lots fo things 23:23 <@Dagmar> It's a fucking dog and pony bullshit show and I've got better things to do with my time 23:23 <@Bahhumbug> But it won't matter, there are a lot of people that will be there that don't read the lists and they will believe what they are told at he con. 23:24 <@Dagmar> They're not my problem 23:24 <@Dagmar> If they're lucky they'll get 150 lamers showing up 23:24 <@Bahhumbug> There needs to be a "boycottpn18.com" site :) 23:24 <@Evilpig> there's always riphreaknic.com 23:24 <@Dagmar> notahackerconanymore.com 23:25 <@Bahhumbug> I will happily buy it and host it if someone wants to populate the site with content. 23:25 <@Evilpig> Bahhumbug: I already have riphreaknic.com from back when dipshits started that nonsense several years back 23:26 <@Bahhumbug> Meh, this goes along with the current trend of boycottFOO.com sites :) 23:26 <@Dagmar> THis isn't an RIP case so much as it is a bastardization 23:26 <@Bahhumbug> Next year you ca heave the rip site :) 23:26 <@Bahhumbug> err, can have 23:26 <@Dagmar> I am just _disgusted_ they decided to circle their wagons around a bunch of bullshit 23:26 <@Dagmar> Fucking cowards. 23:26 <@Dagmar> No hacker should respect that 23:27 <@Bahhumbug> They spin the bullshit. They have the ears of many. 23:27 * Bahhumbug shrugs 23:28 < RangerZ> it doesn't matter they can more easily win the PR battle, but i'm glad people are going 23:28 < RangerZ> will refill the coffers 23:28 < RangerZ> for next eyar 23:28 < RangerZ> year* 23:28 < RangerZ> thats all I view it as 23:28 <@Dagmar> They have the ears, but they'll lose a ton of face over being confronted with the truth 23:28 <@Bahhumbug> And, frankly, what I thought should have been called out on the list never was. Namely the threats of fucking LEGAL ACTION, as stated by an officer of the organization. 23:28 <@Dagmar> It'll be obvious they're fucking lying 23:29 <@Dagmar> I only got to hear those like, third hand, or I'd be calling a motherfucker out about that 23:29 <@Dagmar> I need to hear about it from someone who actually heard it 23:29 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: You're assuming that there will be money left over. I will take that bet. 23:29 <@Evilpig> ^ 23:29 <@Dagmar> Because yah, that's fucking _utterly_ inexcuseable 23:29 <@Bahhumbug> You heard it first hand by an officer of the organization in this very channel. 23:29 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: nope, not 'assuming' , just stating that it would be nice if there is 23:30 <@Bahhumbug> Heh. 23:30 <@Dagmar> No, I heard a rumor 23:30 <@Bahhumbug> I'll still take the bet :) 23:30 < RangerZ> yeah 23:30 <@Dagmar> I prefer to have exact quotes 23:30 <@Bahhumbug> He is an officier, he speaks on behalf of the organization. 23:30 * Bahhumbug shruigs 23:30 <@Dagmar> I am not "into" the game of making accusations based on anything vague 23:30 <@Bahhumbug> wtf is vague about what he stated here? 23:30 <@Dagmar> I dont' want someone to be able to weasel their fucking way out of it 23:30 <@Bahhumbug> That was pretty god damned cut and dried. 23:31 <@Dagmar> Well, someone pull up the logs then 23:31 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: he means 'quoting' what was said back then 23:31 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously? This has been hashed in this channel at least twice, with logs provider. 23:31 <@Bahhumbug> err, provided. 23:31 <@Dagmar> I don't keep logs 23:31 * Bahhumbug shrugs 23:31 <@Dagmar> ...and someone doesn't keep detailed minutes. 23:32 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.148.219] has joined #se2600 23:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 23:32 <@Bahhumbug> Minutes of what? It was a pn planning meeting where this threat was (allegedly) made. 23:32 <@Bahhumbug> Or at least when they were together "working" on the site. 23:32 <@Dagmar> I still find it fucking ridiculous that when I asked Jeremy about the site, literally _the_ first words out of his mouth were "i don't want to get involved with all that draam" 23:33 <@Dagmar> er drama 23:33 <@Bahhumbug> (I can't say it was a "meeting" per sae. 23:33 <@Bahhumbug> I can't blame him. 23:33 <@Bahhumbug> I suspect he rather well wishes he never had anything to do with it. 23:33 <@Bahhumbug> Because there is no way that leaving the fucking install script available looks good on _anyone_ involved. 23:34 <@Dagmar> Well, at least I know he wasn't involved with what they put up like fucking amatuers 23:34 <@Dagmar> Dink should _absolutely_ have known better 23:35 <@Dagmar> Building the site on the production IP is fucking amatuer hour bullshit 23:35 <@Bahhumbug> http://ur1.ca/i9chk 23:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: #137280 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca) 23:35 <@Bahhumbug> This is the very last time I will do this. Those are the logs from that evening from the bot. 23:36 < aestetix_> vagina 23:36 <@Bahhumbug> Please, don't give McElroy more credit than he is due. He's never struck me as that bright. 23:37 <@Bahhumbug> Line 467 is the start, Dagmar. 23:37 <@Bahhumbug> Wel, the reference in question, anyway. 23:39 <@Dagmar> Thanks I was just about to ask 23:40 <@Bahhumbug> :) 23:40 <@Bahhumbug> I just dumped the entire log without edits. 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> And I am very close to just making these public. 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> Every bit of her insane bullshit in that channel has been captured by the bot. 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> s/that/this/ 23:41 <@oddball> Dagmar: That's the fucked up thing. I'm pretty sure they moved everything over from the "test" site. 23:42 <@oddball> Sure looked like the same thing. 23:42 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: only one penis in there 23:42 <@Bahhumbug> So install.php was present on the test site as well? 23:42 <@oddball> probably 23:42 <@Bahhumbug> Not that it really matters at this point. 23:42 <@Bahhumbug> Inept is inept whenever and whereever it occured. 23:43 <@Dagmar> I don't think they ever had a test site for what they were working on 23:43 <@Dagmar> I think they threw it up at the last minute during an org meetting 23:43 <@Bahhumbug> 496 occurances of "penis" from you since the beginning of '12 23:43 <@Bahhumbug> Just sayin' 23:43 <@Dagmar> Either way, a weaponized install.php was incredibly stupid 23:43 <@Dagmar> ...and covering up the mistake was even stupider. 23:43 <@oddball> No... they had a public facing "test" site up. 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> Like I said. Do't give McElroy more credit than he deserves. 23:44 <@Dagmar> ...and even _considering_ trying to send the police after one of your own FROM YOUR OWN MISTAKE is nearly unforgiveably irresponsible 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> And that's another fucking thig. 23:44 < aestetix_> we should pass a law banning farting 23:44 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: how many vaginas? 23:44 <@Dagmar> Dink shoudl have downloaded some balls from somewhere and owned up to his fuckup 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> Why wasn't the conflict of interest w/ McElroy and his company doing paid training at the event never brought up? 23:45 <@Bahhumbug> That absolutely _stinks_ of shenanigans. 23:45 <@Dagmar> What I find telling is that Amber apparently didn't scream blue murder about that 23:45 <@Dagmar> ...when she's so willing to throw a fit about other completely inessential things 23:45 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: 762. Critera was case-independent searches of "penis" and "vagina" and no other variations. 23:46 <@Bahhumbug> You saw that cunt is now VP of nlug? 23:46 <@Bahhumbug> I think nlug can now be officially written off as "dead". 23:46 <@Dagmar> More reason for me not to waste time with the 23:46 <@Dagmar> m 23:46 <@oddball> How the fuck did that happen? 23:46 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, and gutless coward feeding information back to your masters? Blow me. Be sure and impart that on them as well. 23:46 <@Dagmar> I am certainly uninteresed in having anything to do with anything that woman is a part of 23:46 < aestetix_> TSA propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHjlN5lzCjM 23:47 <@Evilpig> same way the officers of nashville2600 got elected would be my guess 23:47 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: No one bothers to show up and vote. 23:47 <@Evilpig> nobody else ran 23:47 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: Not even a little confused about why comments are disabled 23:48 <@Bahhumbug> I'm going to start shaming people in nlug over this. 23:48 < aestetix_> And yet, I did in fact just compare the TSA to Nazis. 23:48 <@Bahhumbug> She's not known to that crowd so they just vote in someone they don't know. 23:48 <@Bahhumbug> Good fucking job, idiots. 23:49 <@Bahhumbug> Their org chart is still not available on the web site. 23:49 <@Bahhumbug> I was always under the impression that this type of thing was supposed to be public. 23:52 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 23:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ --- Log closed Mon Sep 29 00:00:08 2014