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02:30 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/GquMxZY.jpg
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05:04 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: Just because being broken once on top of a vulnerable NSS in one day wasn't enough... there is a further CVE against bash: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223
05:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271) - Red Hat Customer Portal (at access.redhat.com)
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07:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:30 < aestetix_> FUCK YES
07:30 < aestetix_> WE HAVE RAINE
07:31 <@Bahhumbug> You're up at 0430 just to announce that?
07:32 <@Dolemite> aestetix_: Congratulations!  You're now only -417 inches for the decade!
07:33 < aestetix_> yep
07:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> so here's a question... when was the first VPS hosting provider ?
07:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dolemite: hahaha... like they would even 'get' 417 in of rain per decade
07:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> silly desert people
07:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
07:38  * RangerZ|Laptop would be amused if las vegas turned into a Mos Eisley cantina...
07:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> holy fuck... I was only kidding... but... "Annual rainfall averages....Oakland 24inches"
07:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> Youngstown... 38.91 inch of rain 64 in of snow..... lol
07:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> Nashville 47.24 inch rain... 7 in of snow
07:43 <@Wilpig_> bullshit
07:43 <@Wilpig_> 7in of snow my ass
07:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... that seems very high to me too
07:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
07:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c honestly... it doesn't ever really accumulate down here
07:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> I've never had to spend a half our digging out my car... so no that much snow, lol
07:46 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ|Laptop: Define "VPS".  By normal definition within the hosting arena "vps" is indicative of openvz and similar container technology.
07:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> sure
07:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> i don't mean just hypervisor/VM stuff
07:48 <@Bahhumbug> That's sorta the point I'm making: hypervisor/vm isn't in the same ballpark as a vps; virtualization was around before container tech but it has never been even to this day, as populous.
07:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> I see that in 1998~2001 a lot of work was being down with BSD Jails, and other VMware/Parallels stuff
07:49 <@Bahhumbug> (This is changing with the advent of low cost providers such as vultr and DO)
07:49 <@Bahhumbug> Shit, back in ~ 15 minutes.
08:07 < aestetix_> Does anyone ever say they are unhappily married?
08:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> men
08:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> and also women
08:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> just have to ask them in private
08:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
08:09 <@Dolemite> RangerZ|Laptop: Accumulation != snowfall
08:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> lies
08:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> if it is really snowing, it accumulates
08:10 <@Dolemite> If it came down as snow, it is measured in that manner, even if it melts on impact
08:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> lies again... snow doesn't melt until march
08:10 < aestetix_> i'm still hearing trickles of rain, but I think it's starting to wane :/
08:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> everyone knows that
08:10 <@Wilpig_> Dolemite: that's just really cold rain.  ;)
08:10 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: snow is melting all year round these days
08:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah i know, lol
08:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> Glacier National Park only has ~4 years left
08:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> or something fucked up
08:11 <@Dolemite> Wilpig_ gets to deal with real snow, now
08:11 < aestetix_> ok who else wants an ello invite
08:11 < aestetix_> I want to get everyone off facebook
08:11 <@Dolemite> what the ell is ello
08:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ello_(social_network)
08:13 < aestetix_> I'll give an invite to anyone but rattle
08:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> non-advertising social network ... aka... a fad that won't last
08:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
08:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm curious as to how they are going to make money
08:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> subscription?
08:13 < aestetix_> I am hoping it becomes subscriber based
08:13 < aestetix_> I would be happy to pay them $5/month
08:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c those are REALLY your only 2 (non-govt funded) options
08:14 < aestetix_> If they do that at the beginning, then maybe it'll curb the entitlement issues
08:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> i kinda doubt that
08:23 < aestetix_> well here's the thing
08:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> plus... what happens when you stop paying? your account goes dead? just inactive, you just can't log in?
08:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
08:23 < aestetix_> with facebook/twitter/etc I do not have an option to pay a subscription fee to make the ads go away
08:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> of course not
08:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> you make Facebook ~500$ a year
08:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
08:24 < aestetix_> I make facebook no money a year because I don't have an account :p
08:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> not true
08:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> you make it by being mentioned, and tracked, and facebook ads being hosted on other sites
08:25 < aestetix_> you know you can also block their urls in your hosts file right?
08:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... how many people block sites in their host file? in the entire USA?
08:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> maybe 1/4 million
08:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> hell even I don't
08:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats great for 'you' in the singular, but not really a viable option
08:27 <@Bahhumbug> There are ads on facebook?
08:27 <@Bahhumbug> When did this starst?
08:27 <@Bahhumbug> Err, start?
08:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> hell, adblock is too difficult for a lot of people
08:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: I dunno, I read an article about it
08:28 <@Bahhumbug> adblock+; noscript; socialfixer == no ads
08:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> the thing is... I actually don't _mind_ ads... in theory...
08:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> but the ads they fucking show, are designed to trick people, deliver malware, and generally be a fuck ton of annoyances
08:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> and not just FB
08:29 <@Dolemite> Yeah, if the ads are relevant I don't mind them, and I turn off adblock+ on sites that I regularly visit that depend on ad revenue
08:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> or ones that play audio
08:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> fuck that shit
08:32 < aestetix_> Indeed.
08:32 < aestetix_> I'm happy to pay a bit of money to support a service I like.
08:32 < aestetix_> Just like I have a membership in the EFF
08:32 <@Bahhumbug> Could you perhaps ask RMS to bathe once or twice a year?
08:33 <@Bahhumbug> Thanks.
08:33 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: that's FSF
08:33 <@Bahhumbug> Close eoough.  They both have two 'F' characters.
08:34 < aestetix_> vagina
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09:10 <@Wilpig_> Woot!  gonna get to see clutch again
09:13 <@Dolemite> http://www.salon.com/2014/09/24/virgin_america_flight_diverted_because_of_masturbating_passenger/
09:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Virgin America flight diverted because of masturbating passenger - Salon.com (at www.salon.com)
09:13 <@Dolemite> That's the headline that just keeps on giving
09:14  * RangerZ|Laptop looks to see if notlarry was flying
09:15 <@CRasH180> Was the plane rocking?
09:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah, reports say he was only 4in
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09:17 <@CRasH180> Imagine doing that and hearing, "BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! Sir, please stop that, pull up your pants, wash your hands, and return to your seat"
09:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> i'm kinda surprised that they haven't started to offer private 'cabins' for ultra/super/stupid rich,
09:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> but honestly .... nvm... they have their own jets
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09:30 <@CRasH180> yep
09:38 < ware> lol Dagmar http://pastebin.com/95NqFygW
09:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: OHNOES - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
09:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> oh great....
09:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> I get  an email... we need you to present to [confidential] in 1hr, please be in the gold room then
09:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> what....tf
09:41 <@Corydon76> I'd avoid the Gold Room like the plague
09:41 <@Corydon76> Or if you do show up, be sure to be wearing a full body chemical suit and gas mask
09:42 <@Corydon76> "They wouldn't tell me anything, so I had to assume the worst."
09:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh _I_ know, but i don't know if I can say
09:44 <@Corydon76> btw, if you haven't seen the bash bug yet, upgrade your Unix/Linux systems NOW
09:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> and its like 45min from now...
09:45 <@CRasH180> Corydon76: I heard about that this morning
09:46 <@CRasH180> s/heard/read
09:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> hell even ware has heard about it, lol
09:47 < ware> o/
09:47 < ware> upgraded last night
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10:22 <@Wilpig_> productive day at the dc.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/e41y7osqktfospb/2014-09-25%2010.07.22.jpg?dl=0
10:25 <@Bahhumbug> The bash bug is only partially addressed by existing updates.  There is a subsequent issue, CVE-2014-7169, that remains unaddressed.
10:25 < notlarry> I hope the light at the end of the tunnel does not explain the faint smell of brimstone...
10:26 <@Bahhumbug> https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223
10:26 <@Bahhumbug> The writeup is RH specific; the issue in general remains unaddressed anywhere.
10:27 <@Wilpig_> Internal Server Error - Read
10:27 <@Wilpig_> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
10:27 <@Wilpig_> Reference #3.8e4eaad1.1411655211.30c8661 
10:27 <@Bahhumbug> The Knowledgebase will be back soon.
10:27 <@Bahhumbug>  
10:27 <@Bahhumbug> We are experiencing some technical difficulties. Thank you for your patience.
10:27 <@Bahhumbug> Yay Red Hat.
10:27 <@Wilpig_> I just got that
10:33 <@brimstone> notlarry: it's part of my condition :(
10:35 <@Wilpig_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx2h8yG9HKA
10:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Wii U - Mario Kart 8 - (GCN) Sherbet Land - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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10:40 <@Corydon76> Bahhumbug: Debian systems should remain generally not vulnerable, since the default shell on those are Dash, not Bash, correct?
10:41 <@Corydon76> That is, while bash is still vulnerable, the fact that the default shell is not bash means that the vulnerability cannot be exploited via the currently identified remote vector
10:43 < aestetix_> what is dash
10:43 < aestetix_> debian again shell?
10:44 <@Corydon76> I don't believe it expands that way
10:45 <@Corydon76> Essentially, it's a rewritten shell meant to preserve most of the syntax of bash, while removing all of the processing done for user interaction, making it a lot faster
10:51 < aestetix_> http://www.troyhunt.com/2014/09/everything-you-need-to-know-about.html
11:00 < aestetix_> Oh wow, Eric Holder is resigning
11:04 <@Corydon76> Holder will leave as soon as his successor is confirmed.  Which, given how the GOP is dragging its feet, may be at the same time as President Obama leaves office in 2-1/2 years.
11:06 < aestetix_> So about the line item veto thing
11:06 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop and oddball kept saying it forced parties to  compromise.
11:06 < aestetix_> I'm curious how long these "compromises" usually take
11:06 < aestetix_> Beause I haven't seen much of it lately
11:07 <@Corydon76> Doesn't matter how long they take.  The point is that the president and Congress are forced into it as the only path forward.
11:07 < aestetix_> Even if it takes the entirety of both the president and Congress's terms?
11:07 <@Corydon76> The point of a line-item veto is that the President would no longer need to compromise with Congress
11:08 <@Corydon76> Even if the Republic is destroyed as a result, yes, the President and Congress need to compromise
11:11 <@Dagmar> Where's the mechanism to allow the President to immolate stonewalling, dickbag Republicans?
11:11 <@Dagmar> It's the pork barrel nonsense that's the reason the President has a line-item veto power
11:12 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: you mean the reason why people are advocating for it.  The President does not have that power, as it was tossed out by SCOTUS.
11:13 <@Dagmar> Congress certainly has the ability to take anything the President asks for and change it any way they like
11:13 <@Corydon76> Right, but they still need the President's signature to make it law
11:14 <@Corydon76> Well, unless they can override a veto, but that hasn't happened recently
11:14 <@Dagmar> With the line-item veto there was at least paritu
11:14 <@Dagmar> er parity
11:15 <@Corydon76> Oh, it's happened more often than I thought.  George W Bush had 4 of his vetoes overridden.
11:15 <@shapr> SHAZAM
11:15 < aestetix_> So uh
11:16 <@Corydon76> Hasn't yet happened to Obama
11:16 < aestetix_> Corydon76: you'd rather we have nothing than get at least something?
11:16 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: you say that like laws not changing isn't a good thing.
11:16 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: Have you ever reached a compromise with cannibals
11:17 <@Dagmar> "Compromise" is *not* always a good thing
11:17 <@Corydon76> Everytime laws change, companies have to revise tons of shit.
11:18 <@Corydon76> The question really should be whether the change is worth the pain, not seeing how much change we can propagate at once
11:18 <@Corydon76> And yes, there are things that I believe are worth the pain, but I don't want change for the sake of change.
11:19 < aestetix_> Corydon76: if you need to change a lot, constantly, doesn't that make you question your constitution
11:19 < aestetix_> (that was little C, not big C)
11:20 <@Corydon76> Oh, look, the last President who had no vetoes overridden was LBJ, and Kennedy before him.
11:20 < aestetix_> I could see why nobody would want to cross LBJ
11:20 < aestetix_> He'd probably call them up and talk about his bunghole
11:20 <@Corydon76> and Warren Harding before Kennedy
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11:21 <@shapr> klixa: OH HAI
11:21 <@shapr> I am not awake yet.
11:24 < aestetix_> damn it it stopped raining
11:24 <@Wilpig_> dell is supposed to be here in 30 minutes and my boss isn't here yet
11:24 <@Wilpig_> wtf
11:27 < notlarry> Looks like you might want to get out the "outfit" and setup the "firepole" then eh Wilpig_ ?
11:29 <@oddball> Oh goody... Holder is stepping down as AG, and, according to NPR, the leading canidate to replace him has represented the RIAA and Viacom in the past.
11:30 <@Dagmar> Pitchforks and Torches in 2020!
11:30 <@Dolemite> There's just barely enough time left for another round of nepotism!
11:30 <@Dolemite> Cronyism!
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11:32 <@Corydon76> oddball: Don't worry; I'm sure the Senate Republicans will filibuster his nomination, and Holder will remain until Obama leaves office.
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11:32 <@oddball> I'm not sure if that's better or worse.
11:33 <@Corydon76> It's at least some pressure to get them to stop the filibuster
11:33 <@Dolemite> It's likely that Holder will go ahead and step down and someone will be appointed as "Acting AG" until a "permanent" one can be approved.
11:34 <@Corydon76> I suspect none of the Cabinet officers are being allowed to add the clause "effective immediately" when they resign
11:34 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: Holder's resignation states that it only becomes effective when a new AG is confirmed.
11:34 <@Dolemite> joy
11:36 <@Corydon76> That may be sufficient pressure on the Senate Republicans, who really don't like him at all
11:48 < aestetix_> Corydon76: so his resigning is basically a symbolic gesture?
11:49 < timoguin> I got yer symbolic gesture right here
11:50 <@Wilpig_> Dickie!!!!  call forth the krakken!  it solves every puzzle.  for reals
11:50 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: that depends upon how the Senate Republicans react.
11:51 <@oddball> Wilpig_: It may not solve your problems, but it will let you forget for a while... http://www.krakenrum.com/
11:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: Release The Kraken | The Kraken Black Spiced Rum (at www.krakenrum.com)
11:51 <@Corydon76> If they REALLY want to get rid of him, they'll confirm Obama's new nominee quickly.  If, however, Holder is merely a favorite punching bag, they'll keep him around for awhile yet
11:52 <@Wilpig_> oddball: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nnkzr8prbxv1nah/Screen%20Shot%202014-09-25%20at%2011.52.01%20AM.png?dl=0
11:52 < aestetix_> Corydon76: it's also worth noting that we're just over a month away from the election
11:52 <@oddball> ahhh
11:53 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: yep, so any Senate Republican who is up for reelection needs to act quickly, lest their challenger say that they voted to keep Holder in office
11:53 < aestetix_> Depends on who Obama appoints
11:53 <@Corydon76> Every vote to filibuster the nomination of his successor is a vote to keep Holder in office
11:54 <@Dagmar> They don't have to worry about htat
11:55 <@Dagmar> THey've carefully cultivated a base that's not smart enough to follow a chain of more than one cause
11:56 <@Dagmar> ALl they've gotta do is keep yelling "OBAMA WANTS DEATH CAMPS!" and "OBAMA WILL TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY!" and their moron voting squad will faithfully re-elect them.
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11:57 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: explain how McConnell is in a fight for his life in Kentucky, then
11:57 <@Wilpig_> McConnell will never leave office unless he's killed
11:58 <@Corydon76> Senate Minority Leader, just like House Majority Leader should be safe seats.
11:58 <@Wilpig_> the ditch mitch campaign failed miserably
11:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> 'should'
11:58 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: go back to sleep
11:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> huh?
11:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> i slept 9 hours last night
11:58 < aestetix_> I thought you sleep from 4am till noon
11:59 < aestetix_> oh wait I guess it's noon for you now
11:59 <@Corydon76> I don't know if we'll see McConnell upset, but it's certainly the case that he's a hair away from losing.
11:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah, 11am
12:01 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: RangerZ|Laptop is cst
12:06 <@Dagmar> Fight for his life?  *snicker*
12:07 <@Dagmar> How can that possible be the case?  I *never* go into Kentucky.
12:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: political life
12:07 <@Dagmar> s/possible/possibly/
12:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> which is what he cares more about
12:08 <@Dagmar> Sooo tempting http://www.wirelessoemshop.com/new-detectable-led-shower-head/
12:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: New Detectable LED Shower Head - Wirelessoemshop (at www.wirelessoemshop.com)
12:08 <@Dagmar> ...but my showerhead isn't on a tether
12:08 <@Dagmar> Nevermind the grammar, those people are asian
12:09 <@Dagmar> I like to think of them as "Wan Chai Online"
12:12 <@Wilpig_> i'm curious how bright they are
12:12 <@Wilpig_> and just how much water pressure it needs to generate its own power for that
12:12 <@Dagmar> My guess if it it's enough to be considered useful for shower pressure, it'll do
12:13 <@Dagmar> It's not like LEDs require a lot of power
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: not much
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> there is ones on amazon that do the same
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> probably the 'same' ones
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> for like 40~50
12:14 <@Dagmar> You know how they warn you to _never_ let the fans just spin when you blast them with compressed air?
12:14 <@Dagmar> DC motors are real good generators
12:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> especially brushless ones...or is it the other way around...
12:14  * RangerZ|Laptop shrugs
12:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
12:15  * oddball used to have some of those computer fans with LEDs built into them.
12:16 <@shapr> me too
12:39 < aestetix_> Corydon76: if a sex toy arrived for you in the mail, what would you do?
12:44 <@Dolemite> Check it off of his list of outstanding orders?
12:45  * shapr agrees
12:45 <@CRasH180> Well, that is not nice
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12:48 <@Mirage> aestetix_: http://www.amazon.com/Pussy-Natural-Energy-Drink-250ml/dp/B00BOTYGBU/ref=pd_bxgy_hpc_img_z
12:48 <@Dagmar> Holy shit they need to sell that here
12:49 < aestetix_> hahah
12:49 <@oddball> I still need to pick up a bottle of Tentical Grape.
12:53 < aestetix_> So relating to an earlier chat
12:53 < aestetix_> I stumbled upon the profile of a friend of mine yesterday
12:53 < aestetix_> Known him for 15 years, although haven't talked to him in 10
12:53 < aestetix_> he got old and fat. it was scary
12:56 <@Mirage> aestetix_: that's generally the rule and not the exception.
12:57 < aestetix_> Including the balding, and the bags under his eyes
12:59 < aestetix_> Mirage: they just let themselves go?
12:59 < aestetix_> tbqh I should stretch more, but I don't loook like that guy
13:00 <@Mirage> I know it's been more than 5 minutes ago, but don't you recall the conversation a few weeks ago about how funny it is going to your HS reunion?
13:00 < aestetix_> That's what the "earlier chat" was
13:02 <@Mirage> Today?  I missed it if so.  Apparently me messing with the firewall and Verizon cabling last night killed my irssi connection.
13:02 < aestetix_> No, a few weeks ago.
13:04 <@Dagmar> I'm still pleased that we can finally order British Pussy online
13:04 < aestetix_> Make sure to order a shaving kit with that
13:05 <@Dagmar> Up until now it's only been Asian pussy you could order online.
13:12 < rattle> http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/09/bash-shellshock-bug-is-wormable.html
13:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Errata Security: Bash 'shellshock' bug is wormable (at blog.erratasec.com)
13:13 < aestetix_> nice
13:14 < aestetix_> You know
13:14 < aestetix_> Given that many companies have a committee to approve things like bugfixes
13:14 < aestetix_> This is going to remain a problem for a long time
13:14 <@Dagmar> looool
13:15 < aestetix_> Am I wrong?
13:17 <@Dagmar> It's not a new problem.
13:17 < aestetix_> I knwo.
13:17 <@Dagmar> Hell, Vanderbilt _lives_ by committees made of people who have no idea what they're doing.
13:17 < aestetix_> Hmmm. Did you try testing vanderbilt's website?
13:17  * CRasH180 slaps hand over mouth in shock and awe at Dagmar's comment
13:17 <@CRasH180> really?
13:23 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: They're not paying me for it, so it's their problem
13:23 <@Dagmar> I'm fairly sure there's no one on the ITS side smart enough to effectively scour the web environment for shitty shell scripts
13:24 <@Dagmar> ...and their usual is still to try and hold a _meeting_ for all the "stakeholders" to pretend they have a clue what the impact on their stuff will be.
13:33 <@CRasH180> Instead of a get it fixed and make a downtime window now!
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13:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> just include rm -rf /
13:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> ok, nvm... way late comment
13:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> but include that in the bash env hack, in all http requests
13:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> and see if does anything, lol
13:47 <@CRasH180> egads, that might work
13:48 <@Dagmar> CRasH180: Upgrading bash doesn't involve downtime.
13:49 <@Dagmar> ...particularly in a load-balanced environment.
13:49 <@CRasH180> Yep
13:49 <@CRasH180> agreed
14:12 <@Dolemite> Not upgrading bash can cause downtime
14:29 <@CRasH180> bbl
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14:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> oh god... rebind [ ls ] -> [ rm -rf ; ]
14:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
14:41 <@Dolemite> damn, someone down the hall is coughing up a lung
14:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dolemite: 'tis the season
14:41 <@Wilpig_> it's me
14:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> swine flu
14:41 <@Wilpig_> I was in that room over there across teh way
14:41 <@Wilpig_> that one that doesnt' exist
14:41 <@Wilpig_> I think they did something to me
14:42 <@Wilpig_> Dolemite: btw I have dell here
14:42 <@Wilpig_> we're talking R720 and C6220 design problems and how they are going to address them
14:42 <@Dolemite> Heh, hit them up about their POS power supplies
14:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> so... since the two of you are here, question for you....
14:43 <@Wilpig_> I already hit them up about the pile of hard drives I have
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14:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> is there is public API for openDCIM?
14:43 <@Wilpig_> RangerZ|Laptop: if the balls don't touch it isn't gay
14:43 <@Wilpig_> RangerZ|Laptop: no.  cause i'm lazy and haven't finished starting it, yet
14:43 <@Dolemite> RangerZ|Laptop: We are working on one for 4.0
14:43 <@Wilpig_> if I could get my shit in gear and get the power rework done. the api is next on the list
14:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c I might be able to incorporate it into the project I'm working on
14:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> its a linux container distribution/balancing system with high QoS and other 'stuff' like soft-real time constraints of applications starting
14:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
14:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> we just finished it today actually
14:45 <@Wilpig_> dell is here showing me the new NFC tags they are working to add to the R730s
14:45 <@Wilpig_> touch your phone to the front of the case and you get the serial, service tag, IPs, etc
14:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> so I'm going to be working on some meta model and models for it, and I'd love to throw that in there to as a side "here we can pull data from here auto-magically for you" thing
14:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> a new iphone 6 bend "Gate" name.... -> Bend-Gahzi
14:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
14:51 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: that is fucking evil.
14:51 < aestetix_> Especially if you lace that with some shellcode
14:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol... yeah
14:54  * shapr hops randomly
14:54 <@shapr> dangit
14:54 <@shapr> why this doesn't work?
14:55 < aestetix_> shapr: say the magic word
14:55 <@oddball> What? not iBend?
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14:55 <@Wilpig_> Bend-Gahzi is funny but really not catchy
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14:56 <@shapr> aestetix_: fuck broadcom?
14:56 <@shapr> https://twitter.com/crazybob/status/515206151005147136
14:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bob Lee on Twitter: ""A bug called Bash" http://t.co/amp9t64not" (at twitter.com)
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15:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> i'd call it more of a spider
15:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> with its 8 legs interweaving throughout your system
15:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> and its webbing clogging up your ssh
15:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
15:42 <@Wilpig_> http://steamcuratorcurator.com/
15:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Steam Curator Curator (at steamcuratorcurator.com)
15:42 <@Wilpig_> wtf?
15:43 <@Wilpig_> the intro to that reads like i'd expect to find dagmar giving me advice on what game to buy
15:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> yep
15:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> basically
15:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> Total Biscuit has the #1 channel now
15:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> basically .... valve has given up having any 'wall' to its 'walled garden'
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15:57 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: in answer to your earlier question, toss it in the trash
15:58 <@Corydon76> I generally don't have the space to store random objects I have no use for.
15:59 <@Corydon76> though I may hold it for several days, first, just in case a friend used my address as a dropping off point, because they didn't want a parent finding and opening that package
16:00 <@Bahhumbug> So much wrong with that statement...
16:01 <@Corydon76> Some adults still do live with their parents
16:01 <@Wilpig_> just the failures
16:02 <@shapr> anyone has an ello invite?
16:02 <@Corydon76> Also, the infirm
16:02 <@Wilpig_> shapr: aestetix_ does
16:02 <@shapr> looks nifty
16:05 <@Bahhumbug> "I am an adult.  Why the fuck do you believe you have the right to touch, let alone open, my mail?"
16:06 <@Corydon76> Bahhumbug: do you still have parents?  If so, are they well enough to care for themselves?
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16:06 <@Corydon76> Some of the older crowd can and do regress developmentally
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16:20 < aestetix_> sure
16:20 < aestetix_> shapr: whats your email address
16:20 < aestetix_> the more people I get on ello, the more people stop using facebook
16:22 <@shapr> I created a facebook account a year ago
16:23 < aestetix_> sent
16:23 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix_: If you've got more: jrd@gerdesas.com
16:24 < aestetix_> ok
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16:29 < aestetix_> https://twitter.com/GoDaddyHelp/status/514951676353339392
16:31 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: that's kinda funny but it was yesterday so slightly understandable that the twitter monkey didn't have a clue
16:32 <@Mirage> my mod_security is having fun with "shellshock":   [file "/etc/httpd/modsecurity.d/activated_rules/modsecurity_crs_40_generic_attacks.conf"] [line "25"] [id "950907"] [rev "2"] [msg "System Command Injection"]
16:33 <@Mirage> I can just imagine how much logging is being generated on the VU web servers
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17:22 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.bsd-unix.net/seitz/funny/the_fappening.jpg
17:22 <@Bahhumbug> Heh
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17:40 <@Wilpig_> wtf do you do with this?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/vjmrpngpubi9of1/2014-09-25%2017.34.36.jpg?dl=0
17:42 < aestetix_> Wilpig_: suppository
18:04 <@Wilpig_> so my ex-mother-in-law says to pull the peppers off the plant leaving the stem then either use a needle and string through the stems or just tie a string around the pepper stem and then hang them up to dry
18:06 <@Corydon76> Or roast them until the skin is blackened, then peel the skin off.
18:11 < rattle> Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam? http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Sep/92
18:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Full Disclosure: Re: Critical bash vulnerability CVE-2014-6271 (at seclists.org)
18:12 <@brimstone> so, are we calling this bashbug or shellshock?
18:15 <@Wilpig_> pretty sure this will soon just be called "damnit"
18:23 < rattle> I think shellshock has won.
18:23 < rattle> It's just bashtastic.
18:39 <@Dagmar> Which fucking DHCPD is that tho?
18:40 <@Dagmar> Ahh... the standalone
18:45 <@Dagmar> ISC's dhclient is probably in better shape since the last time I looked at it it had an annoying tendency to ignore just about any option you didn't ask it for
18:55 <@Bahhumbug> Not according to Vixie.
18:56 <@Bahhumbug> http://ur1.ca/i8rqh/
18:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: ur1 Generator (at ur1.ca)
18:56 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm, weird.
18:57 <@Bahhumbug> http://ur1.ca/i8rqj
18:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: #136602 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca)
18:57 <@eryc>  https://github.com/glaszig/node-dhcpd
18:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: glaszig/node-dhcpd · GitHub (at github.com)
18:58 <@Bahhumbug> https://www.trustedsec.com/september-2014/shellshock-dhcp-rce-proof-concept/
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19:16 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: What's that got to do with dhclient?
19:17 <@Dagmar> Ah I see
19:17 <@Dagmar> Maybe they finished that code
19:17 <@Dagmar> The last time I dicked with it I was irked to find I could _not_ get the NTP server information out to where the hooks script could see it, and the dhclient-exit-hooks script is generally empty
19:30 <@Dagmar> I just changed mine to invoke ash, as a just in case measure, since I'm using ddclient
20:28 <@Wilpig_> I cannot seem to get into my parents heads how to install a new router.  this is the third or fourth time they've had to do it and everytime I nearly end up hanging up on my stepdad cause he refuses to listen and do as I say
20:33 <@Bahhumbug> Hang up on him.  When he gets all uppity ask him if he's willing to stfu and do what you say.  If he says no, hang up on him.
20:33 <@Bahhumbug> This will only take a couple iterations.
20:34 <@Wilpig_> I just dropped my phone until I heard the mumbling stop
20:35 <@Wilpig_> their setup is a little complicated but there is a wireless link to my granny's house, they have wireless shit involved for printers and the satelite shit
20:35 <@Wilpig_> so the second router is setup for all of that stuff and chains into their primary dsl connection
20:36 <@Wilpig_> they're also paying for a 10MB dsl connection and generally get sub 1Mbs
20:37 <@Wilpig_> but the techs just walk all over them cause they don't know better
20:37 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.  Sounds about right.
20:38 <@Wilpig_> and they've started the "u-verse is coming" rhetoric on them
20:38 <@Wilpig_> when I go home to visit at thanksgiving I will get a truck rolled on a holiday
20:38 <@Wilpig_> I _DO_ know better
20:43 < aestetix_> vagina
20:44 <@Wilpig_> I thought I did damn good today to talk dell into doing a mass RMA for a lot of hard drives.  at least 100 of them
20:56 <@eryc> you should vlog about it
20:58 <@Shadow404> or better than that, make a live journal entry about it
21:06 <@Shadow404> oh wait...
21:06 <@Shadow404> http://wilpig.livejournal.com/
21:06 < aestetix_> Shadow404: how's your butt?
21:06 <@eryc> *feeling giggity
21:09 <@Dagmar> Interesting
21:10 <@Dagmar> I guess LJ was having some partial downtime before
21:10 <@Dagmar> When I set my account up there I'd planned on putting shell script stuff I'd written up there so I'd never lose it
21:10 <@Dagmar> ...and then a few years later, their archives only appeared to go back three years
21:10 <@Dagmar> i'm looking at stuff from 2005 now, including things I wasn't able to see before.
21:11 < aestetix_> I wonder if ello will become the new lj
21:14 <@Shadow404> haha, from my anti-social college years: "I know this is like the 101th time i have said this but....chicks love biker dudes. This week I have already had like 2 more girls just come up and talk to me when i got off my bike at college. It's awesome. It makes all the computer geeks at college jealous..he he he. Not to mention the jocks, I have ways of keeping those muscle bulging, steriod popping, fuckin dumbasses inline though. I dont have the whole cookbo
21:15 <@Shadow404> 23-oct-02
21:24 <@oddball> I still don't quite understand the exodus from LJ to FB.
21:24 <@Shadow404> yeah, LJ is alot less overwhelmed with Ad's and other crap
21:24 <@Shadow404> but people (in general) like content
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21:26 < aestetix_> oddball: me either
21:26 <@oddball> Shadow404: Yeah... that's why I finally made the switch.
21:27 <@oddball> And the creators of LJ weren't flaming assholes.
21:27 <@Shadow404> why did you really make the switch?
21:27 <@Shadow404> because everyone else did?
21:27 <@oddball> yep
21:28 <@Shadow404> baaaa
21:28 <@oddball> A social network kind of sucks when you take out the "social" part.
21:29 <@oddball> And my emo poetry sucked.
21:29 < aestetix_> IRC is kind of a social network
21:38 <@Wilpig_> my stepdad claims he learned his lesson
21:38 <@Wilpig_> we would have had that shit on an hour ago if he had just listened
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21:53 <@oddball> Holy shit... the FBI recently released a study stating, among other things, that LEOs *miss* their intended target with 70-80% of shots fired during incidents.
22:00 <@Shadow404> thats on the order of a hollywood movie
22:03 <@oddball> Hey, still better than the GI Joe cartoons!
22:04  * oddball renews his belief that we need to take away the high capacity semi autos from the cops and make them switch back to revolvers.
22:05 <@oddball> I remember seeing a study a few years back showing that cops had a much higher hit rate when they only had 6 shots before needing to reload instead of the 15-20 they have now.
22:05 <@Shadow404> as long as you make the baddies do the same
22:05 <@Shadow404> oddball: sorta like vietnam with missles over guns
22:06 <@oddball> Either that, or make the cops accountable for any stray rounds.
22:06 <@Shadow404> the latter is more reasonable, but again the baddies wont
22:07 <@oddball> don't give a shit.
22:07 <@oddball> It's honestly hard to tell the difference between a cop and the bad guys these days any ways.
22:08 <@oddball> And we can easiky do something about the cops.
22:08 <@oddball> s/easiky/easily
22:18 <@CRasH180> What is a LEO?
22:18 <@oddball> Law Enforcement Officer
22:18 <@CRasH180> oh, understood
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23:30 <@SuMo_D> Quote of the night.... from one of the directors of the STEM support centers for teachers for the entire state... H: I'm really into code M: Oh that's cool! what kind. H: Code.... M: any particular languages? or programs? H: Oh ummm... no just code. I'm doing a workshop at the teacher summit next week. I did all the exercises on code.org --- Ummmmmmm.... yeeeeeeeah...... WHY DOES THE GAP HAVE TO BE SO WIDE SOMETI
23:30 <@SuMo_D> MES!!!!
23:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> sounds legit
23:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
23:33 <@SuMo_D> it was really kinda seriously disturbing
23:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats like my friend from san fran, she's been in love with the "life style" of a san fran/bay area "programmer"
23:34 <@SuMo_D> its shit like that where ok... last night I was hanging out with a bunch of developrers talking frameworks and backend routes optimization shit...
23:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> she wanted to learn "how to hack" , and I just laughed at her
23:34 <@SuMo_D> lol
23:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> she even did that 'devbootcamp' crap
23:35 <@SuMo_D> and today it was... yeah I love code
23:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> 12week course for like 12k
23:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm like...wtf...
23:35 <@SuMo_D> ha - yeah I met somebody here who did that.. they're getting good work from it
23:36 <@SuMo_D> there's one here for Javascript 8 weeks for 7,000 and they garuntee you'll get a 40K+ job in 6 months
23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> she ended up leaving b/c some guy was ... (something)... to her there, she seemed to imply stalking/being a creeper
23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> she didnt' really say
23:36 <@SuMo_D> ah
23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> and I didn't want to push...
23:37 <@SuMo_D> damn creepers
23:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> hey, leave us alone
23:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
23:38 <@SuMo_D> are you sure it was creepers and not the condescending assholes?
23:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> but yeah... there is a difference between being a creeper and just flirting... and a lot of people don't get that
23:39 <@SuMo_D> we had a spirited discussion about how pretty much all programmers are some kind of asshole
23:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> especially the "don't fucking go after your students"
23:39 <@SuMo_D> ummmm yeah
23:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> unless they are REALLY cute
23:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> that was a protip from my one prof
23:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> j/k, LOL
23:40 <@SuMo_D> but yeah two guys who came to the programmer thing last night, started talking about a guy they worked with.... happens that... I am really good friends with that guy
23:40 <@SuMo_D> and they were like that dude!!! ahhhh!!!
23:40 < aestetix_> lol
23:40 < aestetix_> https://twitter.com/dakami/status/515344413002698752
23:41 <@SuMo_D> same thing happened at a Maker Meeting the day before in a different city where is so and so, me: oh I just spent the afternoon with him - other dude: oh where is so and so he's blah blah blah really weird week
23:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> ehh, I think thats just the difference between guys and girls
23:44 < aestetix_> I really thought Dan would have figured out I was trolling him
23:44 < aestetix_> He finally picked up on it and stopped responding to me :p
23:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> guys will insult each other all the time, and mean nothing really by it
23:45 <@Dagmar> Someone says "whore shoes" just once and with chicks it's WWIII
23:45 <@Dickie> "chicks"
23:45 < aestetix_> Dagmar: don't tell them about Puss N Boots
23:46 <@Dickie> The term is "stopid biches"
23:46 <@Dickie> But youhave to fling poop when you say it
23:46 <@Dickie> also you're all dumb and ugly
23:46 <@Dickie> AND SO AM I!
23:46  * Dickie fires the confetti cannon
23:47 <@SuMo_D> RangerZ|Laptop what is the difference between guys and girls?
23:47 <@SuMo_D> at both meetings I was the only woman there
23:47 <@Dagmar> Do you think they noticed?
23:48 <@SuMo_D> not really
23:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> that guys, especially young guys, will talk shit about each other ....and not really mean anything about it.... where as girls wouldn't dare tell a girl that she's wearing 'whore shoes'  ;)
23:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> or more accurately... 'whore boots' lol
23:51 <@SuMo_D> I donno my chesticals do kinda give me away though
23:51 <@SuMo_D> dude... wtf are you talking about
23:51 <@SuMo_D> the girls I hang out do that all the time
23:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> oh thats good
23:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> better equality among the sexs
23:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> now we're BOTH assholes
23:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
23:54 <@SuMo_D> yeah
23:54 <@SuMo_D> pretty much
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