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00:14 < aestetix> http://imgur.com/a/EaGOa
00:20 < aestetix> The scary part is how they had to keep making new categories for obesity
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04:26 <@Dagmar> eryc: THat search engine is awful.  Far too many of it's results are littered with not-porn
05:15 < aestetix> man
05:15 < aestetix> I am addicted to hackerexperience.com
05:15 < aestetix> It's such a silly game
05:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> is it possible to use netcat to easily pipe stdout to a TCP port that a client can  connect to?
05:58 < aestetix> Yes I think so
05:58 < aestetix> I'm trying to remember how to do it..... and whether you need to specify a buffer for netcat, etc
05:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> i know you can do this... [ cat file.foo | nc -l 3333 ] and it will allowing copying of 'file.foo'
05:59 < aestetix> right
05:59 < aestetix> oh wait, you mean have something that pipes stdout once a client has already connected?
05:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I need a quick/dirty way to allow logs to be read from a remote machine via TCP
06:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> jmeter results will be written to stdout... on the swarm, and I need each swarm node to have a port open that the controller/manager box can connect to, and pull the stdout results from
06:01 <@Dagmar> scp
06:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> and https://superuser.com/questions/607783/can-i-pipe-redirect-a-console-application-through-netcat-so-it-can-be-used-remot
06:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: linux - Can I pipe/redirect a console application through netcat so it can be used remotely? - Super User (at superuser.com)
06:02 <@Dagmar> ...or just plain tunnelled ssh commands.
06:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> this is a 'we just need it to work for about 20min once' kind of things
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06:02 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: what about rsyslog
06:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> we're going to use a middleware for 'real' data transmission, but this is just for right now
06:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> not sure, its probably 'exactly' what we need, but I'm not too familiar with it, and honestly, I'm being forced to be the Ops part of the DevOps :/
06:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> I dunno, I think its stupid to have us worrying about this minutia... but 'ehh' I don't have the 55k to pay Dagmar to come work at vandy again
06:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
06:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> though I somewhat feel that he wouldn't do it for that much... unless he could loudly/often/publicly tell the rest of VUIT that/to: fuck themselves/how stupid they are/what they can do with their TPS reports, hehe
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06:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> he might do it for a few months... just to have fun doing that, lol
06:11 < aestetix> Ok
06:11 < aestetix> I think I just decided I am going to play some of that Saved By the Bell clip mocking Harvard, when I am actually at Harvard
06:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
06:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> and the thing is
06:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> you'd be fine, b/c you were presenting an academic presentation
06:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> actual fair use
06:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
06:13 < aestetix> ok that's funny
06:13 < aestetix> haha
06:13 < aestetix> I'll open my talk with a clip from the video
06:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> technically it might only be 'staff' of the university
06:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I _really_ don't think the MPAA/etc want to push it
06:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c they would leave themselves open for possible extended user rights, and they would NEVER do that, lol
06:14 < aestetix> that would be funny if my talk got harvard sued
06:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah
06:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats why they wait for 'easy' cases
06:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> example... weev
06:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> he's a fucktard, so he was a great case for the gov't to use to set a bad precedent
06:20 < aestetix> oh yes this will go nicely as the opening for my talk
06:21 < aestetix> Is there a good academic phrase to call something that's an opening joke
06:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> suicide
06:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
06:21 < aestetix> A phrase that's really stuffy but is also funny
06:21 < aestetix> maybe "Opening Curiousity"
06:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> an 'abstract selling point' maybe...
06:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> but thats a stretch too
06:22 < aestetix> oh oh oh I know
06:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> abstracts start out telling the 'current state of affairs' and why it isn't perfect
06:23 < aestetix> "Curious Opening Amusement"
06:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> sure, lol
06:23 < aestetix> no I am going to play the saved by the bell clip in my talk as the first slide
06:23 < aestetix> and the title slide will be second
06:23 < aestetix> It will get everyone's attention, and mock harvard :p
06:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> if thats the case, I'd have a black slide 'first'
06:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> actually... you might want to have the title up on the projector when they are walking in, etc... since its published beforehand
06:24 < aestetix> Oh right.
06:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> but title -> clip would be fine
06:24 < aestetix> So I'll have the first slide be the logo, the second slide be the opening amusement
06:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah
06:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> the an outline
06:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> then
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06:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> so http://superuser.com/a/607855 worked
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07:24 < aestetix> man
07:24 < aestetix> there was a bunch of buzz about the prospect of getting rain yesterday
07:24 < aestetix> and nope
07:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:30  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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08:43 <@CRasH180> When you have a kid all of your music you used to listen to is replaced with the music they like to hear
08:43 <@CRasH180> s/kid/kid(s)
08:52 <@Dickie> Also wife
08:52 <@Dickie> I get away with jazz at meal times, but I'm still teased that it's "weather channel music"
08:55 <@opticron> CRasH180, unless you run your own "radio station" at the house and provide "good" music for in-car listening
08:55 < aestetix> Dagmar: https://www.idecosystem.org/page/10th-plenary-agenda
08:56 <@CRasH180> lol
08:56 <@CRasH180> true, true
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09:18 <@Dagmar> Damnit.  I must have eggs and cheese
09:18 <@Dagmar> On a bread item
09:32 <@Dolemite> Wow.  Just found the place we're going camping with Cub Scouts this weekend on Google Maps, which had no clue how to find it by name.  Apparently having a 4.5 mile long driveway kind of messes that whole directional thing up.
09:33 <@Dolemite> There is NO civilization for miles around, save this one camping lodge.
09:34 <@Corydon76> Sounds like a setting for a horror movie
09:35 <@opticron> cabin in the woods
09:35 <@Dolemite> This is even farther out in the boonies
09:35 <@Dolemite> https://www.google.com/maps/place/35%C2%B056'34.4%22N+84%C2%B046'55.7%22W/@35.9415898,-84.7832322,2861m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
09:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: 35°56'34.4"N 84°46'55.7"W - Google Maps (at www.google.com)
09:35 <@Corydon76> No way to call for help...
09:36 <@Corydon76> Except for this one radio, which calls out the lone sheriff, who gets slaughtered upon arrival
09:38 <@Corydon76> And the only thing keeping you alive is a lot of secondary characters, fodder for the creature.
09:45 <@Mirage> Good stuff to get you started in the morning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nP2QCs5Ejs
09:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: freddy fresh - chupacabbra bassbin twins remix.wmv - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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09:51 < aestetix> Corydon76: how's PN planning going?
09:51 < aestetix> I'm asking non-facetiously.
09:51 < aestetix> I might not be able to make it this year, but I can certainly help promote it.
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10:07 < aestetix> You know who I miss?
10:07 < aestetix> cerkit
10:08 <@Dagmar> LIar
10:09 < rattle> He's one of those people you miss until he's around.
10:10 <@brimstone> Mercster
10:10 <@brimstone> Mercster
10:10 <@brimstone> Mercster
10:10  * brimstone waits
10:10 < aestetix> lol
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10:11 < aestetix> rattle: btw, if you don't come to my harvard talk, I am putting a picture of you IN the talk
10:11 < aestetix> And you don't get to choose which picture
10:12 <@brimstone> i think rattle should get to choose which talk
10:12 < rattle> You know what's annoying?  I RSVP'd for it and they never sent me a confirmation.
10:12 < aestetix> Huh, really?
10:12 < aestetix> Maybe I should try RVSPing for it
10:15 < aestetix> rattle: just so you know, I'll be focusing mostly on name philosophy and practical issues. I am however more than happy to field technical questions.
10:16 < aestetix> I just figured it was a better idea to let the audience ask the technical questions because I assume not all of them are technical.
10:16 < aestetix> Actually I take that back, I'm going to try to cover a little bit of crypto theory.
10:25 < aestetix> oh wow
10:25 < aestetix> 40% chance of rain
10:25 < aestetix> which would result in, at the most. 0.01 inches
10:29 < RangerZ> @weather 37216
10:29 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Nashville, TN :: Partly Cloudy :: 67F | Thursday: Partly cloudy. High near 80F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: A clear sky. Low 58F. Winds light and variable.
10:29 < RangerZ> yay
10:29 < RangerZ> finally no rain
10:29 < RangerZ> hehe
10:29 < aestetix> @weather 94611
10:30 < aestetix> aww
10:30 < RangerZ> @weather 94611
10:30 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ: Oakland, CA :: Overcast :: 69F | Thursday: Scattered thunderstorms this morning, then partly cloudy during the afternoon hours. High around 70F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. Low 59F. Winds WNW at 10 to 15 mph.
10:30 < aestetix> woohoo!
10:31  * shapr hugs klixa 
10:31 <@shapr> w00t!
10:32 < aestetix> penis
10:32  * aestetix waits for it
10:32  * aestetix looks at watch
10:32  * aestetix kicks shapr 
10:36  * shapr coughs
10:36 <@shapr> aestetix: ahem
10:36 <@shapr> vaina?
10:36 < aestetix> \o/
10:42 <@ignotus-sdf> @weather 30303
10:42 <@GateKeeper> ignotus-sdf: Atlanta, GA :: Mostly Cloudy :: 72F | Thursday: Sunshine and clouds mixed. High 82F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Low around 65F. Winds light and variable.
10:42 <@ignotus-sdf> made you look.
10:43 < RangerZ> only problem is...
10:43 < RangerZ> its _IN_ GA
10:43 < RangerZ> the only good thing that comes out of GA is cute girls with the peach accent
10:43 < RangerZ> lol
10:44 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Vaike is the next Frederick
10:44 < RangerZ> lol
10:44 < RangerZ> ohh, So I was doing some reading and exploring last night in archeage
10:44 <@Dagmar> I just watched him murder six attackers in a row.
10:44 <@Dagmar> I'm trying to level the dark mage girl, and there's no one left for her to attack
10:45 < RangerZ> 2 days after launch... every plot of land in the game... is already purchased
10:45 < RangerZ> lol
10:45 < RangerZ> alpha/beta testers learned how to speed rush through the early game, to get to the point where they could buy a house
10:45 <@Dagmar> Give it a week
10:46 <@Dagmar> Taxes are due on Tuesday for the launch day grabbers
10:46 <@Dagmar> They'll be evicted for non-payment
10:46 <@Dagmar> ...and keep in mind there's more than a few Koreans and Brazilians playing who were already playing the Korean game months ago
10:47 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure Ben Terry has also been playing for months
10:47 <@Dagmar> ...with the Koreans.
10:47 <@Dagmar> He's got a 48x48 plot somehow
10:47 <@Dagmar> Oh... Also, thank god for recall
10:47 <@Dagmar> I laughingly jumped through someone's portal last night.
10:48 <@Dagmar> _It worked._
10:48 <@Dagmar> Suddenly... level 35 crap everywhere.
10:48 <@Dagmar> These portals are one-way.
10:48 < frsilent> RangerZ: not to mention god-awful queues & extended server maintenance
10:49 < frsilent> if you stayed at the character select screen you could skip queue so a lot of people were doing that as well
10:50 < RangerZ> yeah
10:50 < frsilent> are you guys on kyrios?
10:50 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-zz9rKs9z4
10:50 < frsilent> <--kyrios/east/lamentor
10:50 <@Dagmar> I'm on two of them.
10:50 <@Dagmar> Selphira and Enla (sp?)
10:51 < RangerZ> just Selphira
10:51 < aestetix> I think ware is in that video
10:54 < RangerZ> ahhh... so thats why my phone has been bitching at me the past few nights...
10:54 < RangerZ> I put an appointment in as '1 AM'
10:54 < RangerZ> not PM
10:56 <@shapr> yay! It's my birthday! I'm old plus three!
10:56 < RangerZ> you're 28?
10:56 < RangerZ> what does that make Dolemite...
10:57 < RangerZ> lol
10:58 < aestetix> old plus three?
10:58 < RangerZ> i'm guessing 33 then
10:58 < RangerZ> or 43
10:59 < RangerZ> or 13 for nambla
10:59 <@shapr> ha
10:59 <@shapr> 43 :-P
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11:05 < aestetix> so apparently there is an entire "genre" of teenage girls making video diaries on youtube
11:05 < aestetix> it is fucking wierd
11:06 < frsilent> fact, the most unfunny & least interesting people in the world are teenage girls that post shit to the internet
11:06 <@shapr> that does sound disturbing
11:06 < aestetix> I mean that's one thing I found
11:06 < aestetix> the other thing.... why the hell are they doing that
11:06 <@shapr> they're desperately trying to be interesting?
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11:07 <@ignotus-sdf> I only have a year on shapr, then.
11:07 < aestetix> When I was a teenager I wouldn't dare post anything personal online
11:07 < aestetix> of course the internet was very different back then
11:07 <@ignotus-sdf> when I was a teenager, there was no online.
11:07 <@ignotus-sdf> shapr, too.
11:07 < aestetix> sure there was. It was just slow as shit and you could only connect to one system at a time :p
11:08 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: you're 44?
11:08 <@ignotus-sdf> yup.
11:08 < aestetix> actually
11:08 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: Actually, I got on the internet in 1988
11:08 < aestetix> ignotus-sdf: can I send you some slides I'm working on for a talk? they involve theology, want to see what you think
11:08 < aestetix> shapr: I think I got online around 1994/1995
11:08 < RangerZ> shapr: i wasn't even in kidergarten then
11:08 <@ignotus-sdf> I saw lynx for the first time in 1992, at UAA.
11:08  * shapr waves his cane
11:08 < RangerZ> lol
11:08 <@shapr> RangerZ: get off my lan!
11:09 < RangerZ> I'm on my own damn series of tubes
11:09 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: utk.edu has a modem block that let you telnet to anywhere once you dialed in
11:09 <@shapr> and thus I found the internet
11:09 <@ignotus-sdf> aestetix: sure. ignotus@wireheadmechanist.com
11:10 <@ignotus-sdf> shapr: I found my first BBS with a Smith Corona word processor.
11:10 < RangerZ> Ohio schools had a "private" network, called OhioNet or BuckeyeNet ( i think it changed names at some point) that was basically Wikipedia, lol
11:10 <@ignotus-sdf> I remember OhioNet.
11:11 <@ignotus-sdf> shapr: I know. >:)
11:11 < RangerZ> I spent my study halls at the library just 'getting lost in wikipedia' ... mid 90s or so
11:11 <@shapr> I got in all kinds of excitement in the early 90s
11:11 < aestetix> sent
11:11 < aestetix> although it's clearly not done yet :p
11:12 < aestetix> uh
11:12 < aestetix> wikipedia didn't exist in the 90s
11:12 < RangerZ> I was fortunate enough to skip the bbs days (mainly b/c I wasn't interested in computers really at that point)
11:12 < RangerZ> aestetix: read my previous statements
11:12 < aestetix> oh lol
11:12 < RangerZ> Ohio basically had its own wikipedia
11:12 <@ignotus-sdf> me too. a little more in the late 90s, then I was, ahem, indirectly convinced to find other hobbies.
11:13 < RangerZ> mine wasn't until really 2000 when I took a pascal programming class, lol
11:13 <@shapr> I was rather more directly convinced, my father had Q clearance.
11:13 < RangerZ> my school offered 4 _real_ programming classes
11:13 <@ignotus-sdf> ah.
11:14 < RangerZ> ... just b/c my HS had the 2nd computer ever in the county...
11:14 <@shapr> What was the first big FBI cybercrime sting? late 80s or early 90s?
11:14 <@shapr> I think it was 89
11:14 < aestetix> operation sundevil?
11:14 <@shapr> yes! that one!
11:14 <@shapr> Almost everyone I knew locally and remotely disappeared off the 'net
11:14 < RangerZ> and the _room_ ... taht _it_ sat in... became our classroom when we had PCs, lol
11:14 <@ignotus-sdf> That was Phiber times, wasn't it?
11:14 < aestetix> yes
11:14 <@shapr> I was the one paranoid who went through a physical exchange twice.
11:14 <@ignotus-sdf> the MoD/LoD days?
11:15 < aestetix> yep
11:15 <@shapr> back in the days of blue boxes
11:15  * ignotus-sdf sighs with nostalgia...
11:15 < RangerZ> I'm sure everyone here has read Masters of Deception, but if not, great book about the topic
11:15 <@ignotus-sdf> back when I could whistle out modem tones.
11:15 <@shapr> I never could
11:16 <@shapr> I could confuse the modem, but that was about it
11:16 <@shapr> I've been picking up free/cheap modems so I can hear the tones again :-)
11:16 < aestetix> also the hacker crackdown
11:16 <@ignotus-sdf> I got it to work right a few times. The trilling was the key part.
11:16 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: clearly we need a contest at the next hacker con :-)
11:16 <@ignotus-sdf> better with 14.4 at the time.
11:17 < RangerZ> so... ironies of ironies... 1-800-FUCKYOU ... guess where it used to point to... Cleveland International Airport Weather automated system
11:17 < RangerZ> so if you ever wanted to know the weather in Cleveland just call 'fuck you'
11:17 < RangerZ> lol
11:17 <@ignotus-sdf> oh, I can't get it now. I've irritated a few people who thought I was mocking a weird bird.
11:18 < RangerZ> *sorry, got side tracked thinking about phone networks* lol
11:18 <@ignotus-sdf> That is never a bad thing.
11:18 < aestetix> man
11:18 < aestetix> I'm watching these videos of these young girls
11:18 < RangerZ> this can't end well
11:18 <@shapr> I never did figure out what mnp level 10 did
11:18  * shapr digs into wikipedia
11:18 < aestetix> It's a window into how shallow and worthless americans have become
11:18 <@Dagmar> Compression
11:19 <@shapr> was that it?
11:19 <@shapr> I do remember how zmodem was the best of the best
11:19 <@ignotus-sdf> I was telling Dot yesterday about how it would be a little easier to multi-line BBSes if they are being handled by SIP and Asterisk.
11:19 <@Dagmar> Thats basically all the MNP stuff ever did as far as I know
11:19  * shapr reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcom_Networking_Protocol
11:19  * Dagmar glares at ignotus-sdf
11:19 <@Dagmar> wtf
11:19 < RangerZ> I thought it had parity bits in it too, for error checking
11:20 <@Dagmar> If you're planning on doing compression down a lossy medium and *don't* put in checksums, you've lost your mihd
11:20 <@shapr> This reminds me that I'm the only person I know who has installed and used ARCnet, 10base-2, and 10base-5 with NetBEUI and IPX/SPX
11:20 <@shapr> I know that can't be unique on this channel :-)
11:20 <@Dagmar> You'd be right
11:20 <@shapr> My first unix was SCO, ugh :-(
11:21 < RangerZ> mine was solaris
11:21 < RangerZ> and even then... whats that command to go up a folder... huh
11:22 <@shapr> Hm, I've forgotten when SunOS became Solaris...
11:22 <@ignotus-sdf> linux. then I learned SunOS, then VMS
11:22  * shapr digs more into Wikipedia
11:22 <@ignotus-sdf> 5.3, I believe
11:22 <@shapr> aha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunOS#.22SunOS.22_and_.22Solaris.22
11:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: SunOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
11:22 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: looks like 4.1.1
11:23 <@ignotus-sdf> Wow. My memory is slipping.
11:23 <@shapr> ok, who's used Display PostScript?
11:23 <@ignotus-sdf> What a shock. But I saw a truck from Jim Nabors hoemtown this morning, and I remembered that.
11:24 < RangerZ> shapr: you mean for TeX, etc?
11:24 <@shapr> RangerZ: Nah, I mean the windowing engine
11:24 < RangerZ> ahh
11:24 <@shapr> I know it was on NeXT, not sure where else
11:24 <@shapr> I never used a NeXT :-(
11:25 < RangerZ> god forsaken OS that uses Objective C
11:25 <@shapr> heh, yeah
11:25 <@shapr> aka swift
11:25 <@shapr> Wait, I have a comcast line at home, and a docsis 3.0 modem, I want to setup ipv6 !
11:25 <@ignotus-sdf> I didn't get to use Plan 9. And BeOS is all deaded.
11:25 <@shapr> You can still run plan9
11:25 <@CRasH180> BeOS was awesome
11:25 <@ignotus-sdf> but would I *want* to?
11:25 < RangerZ> ignotus-sdf: not really, android took most of BeOS's best parts, lol
11:26 <@CRasH180> I still had the original disks until I threw all of that away two years ago
11:26 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: probably not
11:26 < RangerZ> and then hid them away inside its kernel, and coughed once, and pretended that nothing happened
11:26 <@shapr> CRasH180: nooo
11:26 <@CRasH180> Yeah
11:26 <@ignotus-sdf> yeah, I know a guy who is into the successor of BeOS.
11:27 < RangerZ> but thats mainly b/c most of Android's original design staff, was former BeOS's parent company/trust/etc (whatever that was called)'s developers
11:27 <@CRasH180> RangerZ: I am not surprised....Be*AHEM*AndroidOS
11:28 < RangerZ> the binder interface (which is the key part of Android Linux other than the VM) was directly lifted
11:28 < RangerZ> and is now being ported to have direct kernel suppport
11:28 < RangerZ> b/c it makes secure IPC SOOO NICE
11:29 < RangerZ> (if you have a trusted manager saying who can talk to who... obviously)
11:30 <@shapr> ok, so what's the awesome future stuff that hasn't hit mainstream yet?
11:30 <@shapr> ipv6? anything else?
11:30 <@shapr> android and apple watches?
11:30 <@shapr> is that all?
11:30 < RangerZ> binder allows for DMA between two applications
11:30 < RangerZ> passing of serialized objects in a shared memory space
11:30 < RangerZ> butchering of the term DMA
11:30 < RangerZ> but 'ehh'
11:31 < RangerZ> Content Providers
11:31 < RangerZ> and Intents
11:31 <@ignotus-sdf> aaaand in other news, I moved to a mechanical mod, if there are any vapers here.
11:32 < RangerZ> if Linux had support for those, and a more portable _binary_ format
11:32 < RangerZ> lol
11:33 < RangerZ> vapers = people who own vespas and have a speech impediment ?
11:33 <@shapr> ha!
11:33 < RangerZ> no seriously?
11:34 < RangerZ> I have no idea what your sentence meant
11:34 <@shapr> I think he means the electronic widgets that vaporize nicotine for inhaling
11:34 < RangerZ> ahh
11:34 <@shapr> My mother asked me if e-cigarettes is where you go online and pretend to smoke.
11:35 < RangerZ> nah, we called that "aol chat rooms"
11:35 < aestetix> ignotus-sdf: did you get it?
11:39 <@ignotus-sdf> aestetix: yep. thanks!
11:39 < aestetix> ignotus-sdf: see what I'm getting at?
11:41 <@ignotus-sdf> yeah. I like it. good direction.
11:41 < aestetix> cool
11:41 < aestetix> I thoguht you would
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11:46 < aestetix> ignotus-sdf: once I get through the greek stuff I'm reading, I have some augustine lined up
11:46 < aestetix> which I'm sure you'll appreciate
11:48 <@ignotus-sdf> yes, I need to read that next. I have been on St. John of the Cross and Thomas a Kempis
11:49 <@ignotus-sdf> shapr: that's correct. on the widget.
11:50 <@cordless> aestetix: Saint Augustine?
11:51 <@Dagmar> frsilent, RangerZ: Tried any fishing, yet?
11:51 < aestetix> cordless: yes
11:51 <@Dagmar> I mean, I know it's usually _the_ most boring part of a game, but I was wondering anyway
11:51 <@cordless> City of God?
11:51 < aestetix> And Confessions, but yes
11:52 <@cordless> Good reads? I read some of his work in a college philosophy class last year
11:53 < frsilent> not yet, heard it's supposed to be "amazing" lol
11:53 < aestetix> actually Plotinus is the one I'm really interested in
11:53 < aestetix> there is this 300 year gap between christ dying and the church as we know it being created
11:59 <@Wilpig> http://i.imgur.com/TX9dbK6.jpg
12:01 <@ignotus-sdf> I enjoyed Plotinus quite a bit in 2006. I rehashed his work in Seminary during Church History.
12:01 <@ignotus-sdf> You'll enjoy his work, once you get into it.
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12:04 <@Wilpig> neat http://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/article/?id=12820
12:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twisted graphene chills out | The University of Manchester (at www.manchester.ac.uk)
12:05 < aestetix> cordless: in short, you can't really understand world history without understanding the history of the catholic church
12:06 < aestetix> And you can't understand se2600 without asking Corydon76 questions
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12:21 <@oddball> Well, I just reached my stupid quota of the day: http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/2014/09/17/hair-fire-crash/15794857/?fb_action_ids=10203807717665917&fb_action_types=og.comments
12:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Armpit hair fire causes crash that injures teens (at www.ktvb.com)
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13:02 <@Dagmar> I'm gonna murder me some idlers
13:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: lol
13:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> queue time?
13:05 <@Dagmar> 13m remaining
13:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... thats not cool
13:06 <@Dagmar> The worst that can happen is apparently I might wind up in jail in-game
13:06 <@Dagmar> Big whoop
13:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> apparently 'jail' and the trial are really interesting
13:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> and you can't go to 'jail' unless you are killed in pvp anyways
13:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
13:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> so just falling from 1000 ft off you glider into the side of mountain doesn't count
13:07 <@Dagmar> Not much chance of that happening in a room full of idlers
13:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much
13:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> there is an idle timeout of 45min
13:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> what _really_ pisses me off is.... people writing macros to walk in circles
13:07 < frsilent> not sure if it still works but there was none for the character select screen
13:07 <@Dagmar> Hence, the murderin'
13:07 < frsilent> so people were just logging to there when they finished
13:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... thats just shitty
13:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c you aren't even 'gaining' effort points or w/e they are called
13:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> just fucking spin-waiting holding a resource for future use
13:10 <@Dagmar> The labor points thing is damn annoying
13:16 <@Mirage> Wilpig: thanks for the Apple WAVE link..I printed it out for a couple of the fan boyz in the office.  Both of them got excited at first, then realized that placing their phone in a microwave was a bad idea.
13:16 < frsilent> kind of...except that I never come close to using mine lol
13:17 < frsilent> I mostly play CS:GO with a team so my archeage has been limited
13:17 < frsilent> Mirage: ...but...it's the next big thing!...
13:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> either of you do backing?
13:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> the patreon(sp?)
13:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c it feels like if you just want to hop in and play a little, you'd almost have to
13:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> have your own private FU-World farm, and all
13:23 < frsilent> I did
13:23 < frsilent> $150, played maybe 5 hours in the head start
13:23 < frsilent> setting the money on fire might've been more enjoyable
13:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> ahh
13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> well, good news is... the 150$ is actually a better buy than 150$ worth of in game currency now
13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> but the 100$/50$ aren't, lol
13:24 < frsilent> I'm stingy about a lot of things and impulsive about others....ie ~700 steam games
13:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah....
13:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
13:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> if I had _real_ money I'd probably be that way too
13:29 <@Dickie> The dollar sign comes first
13:29 <@Dickie> This isn'
13:29 <@Dickie> t* Europe
13:29 <@Dickie> commies
13:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> $ after is also correct
13:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> its a more 'scientific' way of doing it, but I think it helps , plus it fucks with people in excel
13:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> so anything that can screw with them is good in my book ;)
13:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
13:34 < frsilent> <--raised by an english mother
13:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> <-- Raised by an Irish mother, who taught me to mock the English at every chance possible
13:34 < frsilent> so is there a verdict yet? should I register for phreaknic?
13:35 < frsilent> my mom: "Well we were catholic but at least we weren't irish..."
13:41 < frsilent> http://www.reddit.com/r/archeage/comments/2771r9/release_blaa_borderless_archeage/
13:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: [RELEASE] BLAA - Borderless ArcheAge : archeage (at www.reddit.com)
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13:55 <@brimstone> aestetix: given your talk yet? http://phandroid.com/2014/09/18/google-play-now-requires-devs-to-make-their-home-address-public
13:55 <@ignotus-sdf> <-- welsh. I think that explains everything.
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13:55 <@ignotus-sdf> Seems me an Ranger gots some common blood.
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14:25 <@Dot_Warner> Stupid friggin comcast! >.<
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14:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> speaking of parts of the UK that might split off (this times Wales) , it'll be interesting to see if Scotland becomes its own country today.
14:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm betting it will
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14:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> well 'decides to be' today, will be in like ~2yrs or something
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14:33 < Warcop> dear god the state of coporate IT security is terrible
14:34 < notlarry> Warcop: s/dear/thank
14:35 < Warcop> hah
14:35 < notlarry> Warcop: probably your autocorrect.
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14:37 < Warcop> if only I could figure out how to capitalize on it.. current employer doesn't have much intent to pay attention to 'security'
14:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> Warcop: easy, make a written deal (bet) with your boss, that for each security that you can get past/into/etc of.... that you get an day of vacation that year
14:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
14:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> IF they agree, then you have incentive
14:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
14:44 <@shapr> yarr
14:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> its like when a prof says "sure, if you find a non-NP complete solution to this problem, I'll give you as many As as you want on your record
14:44 < notlarry> oh, looks like I broke something.
14:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c they NEVER expect someone to be able to do  it, lol
14:46 <@Corydon76> Warcop: you'll need to write up a summary report pointing out the costs to the corporation if security is ignored, versus the cost of doing something about the problem
14:47 <@Corydon76> Corporations understand money, nothing else
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14:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> notlarry: was it YOU I HEARD ?
14:47 <@Corydon76> It matters not whether something is the "right" thing to do.  You've got to quantify the risks of doing nothing.
14:49 <@Corydon76> If a security incident would make you lose neither money nor customers, there is no reason for management to do anything about it.
14:53 <@ignotus-sdf> RangerZ|Laptop: I'm hoping Scotland is free by this time tomorrow.
14:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno
14:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> its going to screw over the rest of the UK
14:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c Scotland is the overall wealthy/liberal section of the country
14:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
15:12 <@Corydon76> I'd be surprised if they didn't vote for separation, based purely on the missteps of the unity campaign
15:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, same
15:17 < Warcop> QTS implemented a forgot password for their customer portal
15:18 < Warcop> terrible idea
15:18 < Warcop> w/e
15:19 <@Mirage> So long as it doesn't interfere with production of Doctor Who, I really don't care about Scotland's independence.
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15:28 <@ignotus-sdf> Doctor Who is filmed in Cymru, not Alba.
15:29 <@Mirage> The current Doctor is Scottish..
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15:47 <@ignotus-sdf> And he travels to Cardiff. And their rugbi team still sucks.
15:50 <@Corydon76> The Guardian's headline is rough:  "Scotland's yes campaigners are voting to leave the Titanic"
16:00 <@shapr> SHAZAM!
16:00 <@shapr> Yow!  Legally-imposed CULTURE-reduction is CABBAGE-BRAINED!
16:00 <@shapr> I have SEEN the CONSING!
16:01 <@shapr> so, making a model of sensors, I figure a Sensor is an object, and DataPoints have foreignkeys to sensors
16:01 <@shapr> hmm
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16:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> shapr: what modelling language you usig?
16:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> using*
16:36 <@shapr> python/django
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16:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> a 'sensor' is a 'source' of data
16:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> nothing more, nothing less
16:39 <@shapr> hm, so ... DataSource makes more sense?
16:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> if the 'sensor' has other things such as encryption/etc, then that is an extension of the base sensor
16:39 <@shapr> What do you call an output? I need to set relays for lights/ac/etc
16:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> a sink
16:39 <@shapr> DataSink... ok, I like it.
16:39 <@shapr> much better names
16:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> those are the names that are 'pretty much' standard with matlab/simulink
16:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> also...
16:40 <@shapr> ?
16:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> simulink has an object called "a sink" that allows you to 'drain away' any data
16:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
16:41 <@shapr> huh
16:41 <@shapr> those are dataflow languages, right?
16:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah
16:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> but fundamentally, once you abstract away specifics, all modeling languages have the same core principles
16:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> so thinking of your project(instance model) as both a (whatever you were thinking about it before) and a 'data flow' model at the same time aren't a problem
16:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> a project here for darpa integrated ~60 leading industry tools, cad(s), physics simulators, wave flow dynamics simulators, heat simulators, electrical, formal language verification tools, formal _meta_ language verification tools, and last but very much so least... xml...  all for allowing rapid design of amphibious vehicles with all the R&D being done in the real time (or at least when compared to traditional methods, only 'sl
16:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> so it was basically lego creator studio ... for APCs, lol
16:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> does Django-Chained, have its own modeling language?
16:53 < notlarry> The fact that someone on my facebook feed posted this without revealing it was satire is going to be pretty funny - http://tinyurl.com/nflwarning
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17:19 <@Mirage> Wow.. http://static.happyplace.com/assets/images/2012/11/509d320480e7b.jpg
17:20 <@Mirage> hehe.. http://i.imgur.com/BIb1h.jpg
17:21 <@Mirage> I think the odds are good that someone here may have an idea who's resume that last one is.
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17:51 <@Wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/00v9addq6lycgso/Screen%20Shot%202014-09-18%20at%205.50.37%20PM.png?dl=0
18:05 < notlarry> Mirage: 3,2,1 notit
18:13 < rattle> Things like this make me happy.  http://www.wonderingsound.com/feature/vulvatron-gwar-new-frontwoman-metal/
18:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: Vulvatron Is GWARs New Vocalist | Wondering Sound (at www.wonderingsound.com)
18:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> what or who is GWAR?
18:19  * RangerZ|Laptop wonders who just had a minor aneurysm, lol 
18:20 < rattle> You did NOT just ask that question..
18:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
18:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> i know of them from the bevis and butthead video game
18:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> not kidding, thats where I saw them first
18:22 < aestetix> Virtual stupidity?
18:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> I honestly don't know, think for the SNES
18:23 < aestetix> why do I remember that
18:23 <@Wilpig> never cared for gwar but they put on a hell of a live show
18:23 < aestetix> http://who.is/dns/jamiehankins.co.uk
18:25 < aestetix> all the more reason to use dig
18:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, I looked into them later on, but 'ehh'
18:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> sweet jesus...
18:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> _I_ make more than the poverty line for a FAMILY OF FOUR in NYC
18:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... thats BS
18:32 < aestetix> well I'm sure all the free food in dumpsters makes up for the money they don't have
18:35 <@Wilpig> http://thepussycatriot.bigcartel.com/product/kim-jong-un-cat-scratching-post
18:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Pussycat Riot Kim Jong-un Cat Scratching Post (at thepussycatriot.bigcartel.com)
18:35 <@Wilpig> insanity
18:40 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I suppose that's true if they're willing to live in the Rape District
18:45 <@Wilpig> there's a rape district?!
18:55 <@Dagmar> I do so enjoy the Trial channel.
18:56 <@Dagmar> "GUILTY!"
18:56 <@Dagmar> "...but.. there's not even a trial right now."
18:56 <@Dagmar> "I don't care they're STILL GUILTY!"
18:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
18:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah
18:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> nation and that seem to actually be not full of 'too many' trolls and most importantly ...spam bots
18:58 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/privacy/Privacy_brand_warr2.html
19:00 <@Dagmar> I love the people looking for "ground grain"
19:00 <@Dagmar> They're soooo easily convinced it's a translation issue and that they should be looking for tiny grains on the ground.
19:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
19:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> i haven't seen that... thats amusing
19:02 < aestetix> I thought you'd like it
19:03 <@Dagmar> When you get to Windshade (second area) and they start teaching you about farming, invariably people screw it up somehow
19:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: I was talking about Dagmar's comment
19:04 < aestetix> oh
19:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> come on... the United States didnt' really exist until the great depression
19:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> where gov't started making things worse, by putting people to work
19:05 < aestetix> you mean in its current form
19:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> how dare the government force people to need to eat and drink clean water
19:06 < aestetix> you know
19:06 <@Dagmar> Nah things were going sort of okay, until criminals made it into the White House
19:06 < aestetix> I do like the phrase "The republicans want to make the government small enough to fit in your bedroom"
19:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much
19:06 < aestetix> On one hand, I agree with limiting some of the excess we have. On the other hand, wtf is with all this shit about making laws on contraception, marriage, etc
19:06 <@Dagmar> Every time corruption peaks in the gov't, the rest of the country suffers terribly
19:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> but its better if you describe it as "s/your/everyone's"
19:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: religion
19:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> once you accept that FACT, then our politics makes sense
19:07 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: I think they are picking and choosing elements of scripture and calling that religion
19:08 <@Dagmar> \
19:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> I _honestly_ couldn't tell you the difference between what extreme beliefs that Evangelical Christians hold vs taliban/ISIS when it comes to how they view people of other religions
19:10 < aestetix> well
19:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> sorry /that/that some/
19:10 < aestetix> they seem to believe in lynching gays and black people, rather than beheading journalists
19:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> no
19:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> both are crimes of opportunity
19:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> they would switch in a heart beat
19:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> but we have a lot of black Evangelicals in the south
19:12 < aestetix> Actually
19:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> which makes things a little....akward... at CPAC when it comes to "blacks are the embodiment of corrupt souls being embedded into lesser humans" or w/e the exact phrasing was for Mormons up until the 1970s (and when did ...Mormons... become evangelical)
19:13 < aestetix> republicans seem to like two things as exceptions to limited government
19:13 < aestetix> Laws about the privacy of your bedroom, and invading other countries
19:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> both religion
19:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> the ONLY reason we're hawks is b/c isreal isn't in the US borders
19:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> they don't give a rats ass about anywhere else
19:14 <@eryc> oil
19:14 < aestetix> Israel seems to cause a lot of problems.
19:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> every policy the US makes is focused on the defense of isreal, b/c otherwise Christ won't have a proper place to be resurrected.
19:14 < aestetix> You know
19:14 <@Dagmar> Fuck that place
19:14 <@Dagmar> Fuck everyone in it
19:14 < aestetix> I'm pretty sure Christ can be resurrected whereever he wants
19:15 <@eryc> i'm pretty sure he's dead and resurrection doesn't exist
19:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> eryc: nah, NA and SA, let alone africa have more oil production capability
19:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> its the fact that we've _stuck_ with the oil from there, b/c its convenient
19:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> if we stopped buying saudi royal oil wholesale, the country would have a coup, and ISIS would the whole of the sainai(sp?) penn.
19:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c ISIS is the direct result of the religious beliefs of the Saudi Royal Family Wahabi sect of Islam
19:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> Though I still can't legally express any hatred or attempt to boycott Isreal
19:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> otherwise I'll lose my ability to be financed by darpa
19:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> or the AF
19:18 <@Dagmar> Don't worry.  I'll handle your share of the hate.
19:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> sad thing is... I actually do want whats best for them....
19:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> but apartheid .... doesn't work well in the long run...
19:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> and it will soon reach more than 50%+ Palestinian in Isreal (and would already be if Isreal would have let those that fled the war in 67 come back.
19:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> by definition what do you call a system where one group, the minority holds power over the majority of a different race(let alone religion) and treats them as 2nd class citizens who don't have the right to vote in the real government, but instead gets its own token gov't
19:22 < aestetix> you know
19:22 < aestetix> it's less religion
19:22 < aestetix> and more fucking idiots who think they are being religious
19:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> aka religion
19:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> I KNOW people who are _TRULY_ religious and would die today if they saw what was being done in the name of their religion... if they weren't already dead
19:23 < aestetix> indeed
19:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> my grandmother 1000000% believed in christ and the saints (catholic) (and no, she didn't see them as demigods, or even prophets, but normal people that god entrusted small miracles of his power to, to help those less fortunately, as they did in when they were alive(b/c a lot of non cahtolics like to sling that idea around, lol))
19:26 < aestetix> well yes
19:26 < aestetix> they aren't considered demi-gods, so much as people who exist in a space where they are closer to "god"
19:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> and compared to a lot of things that were suppose to have happened... that actually makes a lot more sense than some of them...
19:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> But my point is... she was a "severely religious' (like mitt was 'severely conservative', but this time true) person who attended mass every week, etc...
19:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> helped the needy
19:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> personally gave more to charity than most of us will ever make in our lifetimes, made a badass spaghetti.... I mean... A holy woman
19:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL
19:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> but as soon as I realized that most religious people that she was going to burn in hell... then it showed more about those people than her
19:29 <@Dagmar> It's almost a shame this is a spoof: http://dailycurrant.com/2014/09/17/kanye-scores-106-points-against-wheelchair-basketball-team/
19:30 <@Dagmar> I would really enjoy seeing Kanye West lynched on live television.
19:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'd rent the equipment so we could project it against the Eye of Sauron in downtown, and watch it at night
19:31 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: so you're basically saying that the church has become overrun with nutjobs?
19:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> yes/no
19:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> individuals who attend church, I have no issues with
19:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c there is strong social (and for a lot of people, political, and business interests as being known as a 'religious' )
19:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> plus... I too know the sense of community that you can get from a house of worship which treats you kindly and accepts you, etc.
19:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> BUT... I feel that (and this could be heavily influenced by my catholic family (but not personally) upbringing (we were C&E catholics) , but... I honestly don't _get_ the idea that it matters more what you feel than what you do, that determines your placement in heaven or hell.
19:35 <@Dagmar> Slowly, a comment at a time, I am turning the server into a rage fest.
19:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> I haven't even started to rage
19:36 <@Dagmar> I just got to taunt the PVPers about permadeath
19:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> haha
19:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I haven't slept properly in days... and this shit has been bothering me... b/c of ISIS and all that, where we don't own up with the fact that there are world views out there that are NOT accepting of the idea of secular Independent nations,
19:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> personally I think we should build a fence around the middle east, and then take away all electronics and weapons beyond AK/AR rifles
19:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then tell them to play king of the hill in their new playyard
19:39 <@Dagmar> I'm kind of thinking it's time to start keeping a combined body-count for both sides
19:39 <@Dagmar> ...and have parties every 5,000 deaths.
19:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> OR... the rest of us just need to move to cloud cities on Venus
19:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> or speed up mar's iron core some more... and then take some gas from venus to mars
19:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> and let them have earth
19:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
19:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> but anyways... time to drive home and get some food
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19:55 < aestetix> penis
20:19 < RangerZ> nah, I'm hungry
20:19 < RangerZ> but not that hungry
20:19 < notlarry> RangerZ: you sure?  I mean $20 is $20.
20:19 < aestetix> RangerZ: I'm sure Corydon76 can attest as to the value of protein
20:21 < RangerZ> notlarry: lets be honest here... your boobs aren't the shape I like... for starters...
20:21 < RangerZ> I mean... come on... your hair...
20:21 < RangerZ> you don't have enough for aestetix or Wilpig, let alone me
20:22 < RangerZ> we all want the nipple having a comb over
20:23 <@Wilpig> Alibaba is supposed to go public tomorrow
20:23 < RangerZ> god damn it....
20:23 < RangerZ> someone beat me to it
20:23 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZqIz-Ye5io
20:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: Newest Social Networking Site For The Rich Charges $3K A Year - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:23 < RangerZ> I actually thought about doing this
20:24 < aestetix> You know, I briefly dated a girl who had nipple hair
20:24 < RangerZ> you sure?
20:24 <@Wilpig> aestetix: that sounds like a guy
20:24 < RangerZ> i mean... was she a she to start with?
20:24 < aestetix> yes
20:24 < RangerZ> and you've admitted to not being able to tell
20:24 < RangerZ> lol
20:25 < aestetix> She just had a few little hairs poking up around her tits
20:25 < aestetix> It wound up not working out for other reasons
20:26 < RangerZ> most girls do, but its usually blonde and in the little 'bulbs' that surround the aoela
20:26 < RangerZ> if they have them
20:26 < aestetix> it was that except for they weren't blonde
20:26 < RangerZ> unless she's an eskimo
20:26 < aestetix> they were big enough to have color
20:27 < RangerZ> some eskimo tribes don't naturally have facial hair, and very limited body hair *wink wink* othe than the top of the head
20:28 < aestetix> I met her at a rave.
20:29 < RangerZ> oh oh oh oh oh.... wow
20:29 < RangerZ> aestetix:  you want some fucking click bait?
20:29 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtxtwf1Oeis
20:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Feminism: Gender is Genetic - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:29 < aestetix> uh
20:29 < aestetix> hahah
20:30 < RangerZ> youtube has been _desparate to try and get me to subscribe to new channels, so they throw some odd fucking shit in there.... and thats one of them
20:31 < aestetix> I have not yet met a girl with ass hair, fwiw
20:31 < aestetix> although I don't generally look for that
20:31 < RangerZ> I stumbled across a video of his about gamergate, and I thought he was a fucking tool in that video and I know better for the rest
20:31 < RangerZ> brazilian exist for a reason
20:31 < RangerZ> plus with laser theropy
20:31 < aestetix> Maybe it's worth asking on twitter for girls who have ass-hair to at reply me
20:32 < RangerZ> that shit gets taken care of _early_
20:33 < aestetix> RangerZ: have you met anyone with asshair?
20:34 < RangerZ> its not usually on my list of things to ask on a first date
20:34 < RangerZ> but....
20:34 < RangerZ> no
20:35 < RangerZ> but longer leg hair on a girl doesn't bother me either, my ex cut her legs while working on the farm, when they were building a new venison barn... i mean "... baby cows... "
20:36 < RangerZ> so she couldn't shave for 2 mo, while the stitches were in and healing up
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20:37 < RangerZ> after the 'omg why do you have fucking sandpaper on your theighs .... stage
20:37 < RangerZ> thights
20:37 < RangerZ> MFer
20:37 < RangerZ> thighs*
20:38 < RangerZ> ohh BTW, is TN a 'no contest' state when it comes to driving accidents?
20:40 < RangerZ> a grad student friend got hit, but her accent didn't help matters, b/c she was startled/scared and doesn't have the _best_ english to start with... lol
20:40 <@Wilpig> oh dear
20:41 < RangerZ> yeah...
20:42 < RangerZ> she has full coverage, and it was only two cars
20:42 < RangerZ> so it shouldn't _really_ be an issue, since she wasn't "really" hurt
20:42 < RangerZ> but her(the other driver) 'neck' might be hurting
20:44 < RangerZ> but she's never dealt with this... and NmetroPD is fucking being stupid as fuck
20:44 < RangerZ> over a week later... they don't have the _report_ ready yet
20:45 < RangerZ> I was like...wtf... the cop should have written that out AT the scene... ohh wait... thats right.... fuck TN
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20:47 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Insurance companies want _every_ state to be a 'no comment' state
20:48 < RangerZ> thats not what I meant
20:48 < RangerZ> in Ohio, if you neither want to pleade guilty, nor 'not-guilty' you can plead 'no contest'
20:49 <@Dagmar> Unless you're being suspected of drunk driving, there's probably not any way they can force you to say anything to the police about your accident
20:49 < RangerZ> which means you will take the court's deicison, but you aren't admitting wrongdooing
20:49 <@Dagmar> ...but this is just talking to the cops.  It doesn't require a formal legal stance
20:49 < RangerZ> the other girl made some fucking this a trial, etc
20:49 <@Dagmar> Yeah well fuck her
20:49 < RangerZ> and its just something I've been curious about for a while
20:49 < RangerZ> pretty much
20:50 <@Dagmar> None of it matters unless perhaps at the scene of the accident your car is way up a tree or embedded in someone's second story bedroom window
20:50 < RangerZ> yeah, which is why I'm glad that its only the 2 cars... and no other property damanged
20:50 <@Dagmar> It's a given that at least one person involved is likely to lie their ass off, and without some poor schmuck who actually had a good view of things being willing to at least fill out an affidavit, there's not much the cops can collect
20:51 < RangerZ> fuck... I thought I was going to make it through that one with no typos.... nope
20:51 <@Dagmar> Like, if you were _clearly_ doing something stupid like drag racing, expect that what you say can and will be held against you
20:51 <@Dagmar> The cops can arrest you on the spot of they think you were doing something reckless.
20:51 <@Dagmar> A simple rear-ending?  Well, if you were in the rear and you think you're not guilty you'd better have a damn good story
20:51 < RangerZ> yeah
20:52 <@Dagmar> Someone ran a light?  Better hope there's witnesses
20:52 <@Dagmar> Most traffic accidents are pretty obvious
20:52 < RangerZ> yeah
20:52 <@Dagmar> Did your co-worker hit someone else or was it the other way around?
20:53 < RangerZ> was hit
20:53 <@Dagmar> I take it the other driver is trying to weasel out of taking responsibility then?
20:53 < RangerZ> tbone.... i honestly have no idea who was at fault
20:53 < RangerZ> she's all shaken up over it, so I stopped asking, etc
20:53 <@Dagmar> Probably neither does the cop
20:53 < RangerZ> yeah
20:53 <@Dagmar> ...and the insurance companies will want to handle it like a simple math problem.
20:54 <@Dagmar> THey won't care who is at fault, they'll quietly negotiate to split the total bill
20:54 <@Dagmar> Or... and this is my favorite... decide that both drivers were at fault, pay for the repairs, and jack everyones premiums up
20:55 <@Dagmar> THe insurance company will be pissed if they find out a policyholder admitted fault in an accident, but there's no reason to worry about telling the cops what happened if no one was being a reckless asshat
20:55 < RangerZ> yeah, i dunno
20:56 <@eryc> aw i was hoping womanservants was a real startup
20:57 <@eryc> also Dagmar is moving to lebanon to be with his soulmate
20:58 < RangerZ> lebanon Tn or Beirut?
20:58 < RangerZ> lol
21:00 < RangerZ> also... fuck 4112 WAIT queue to even log into the game
21:01 < RangerZ> " > 1hr... " .... You don't fucking say
21:16 < RangerZ> Shadow404: what's your last name? I need it for a secret question of the first and last name of the person I'm secretly in love with...
21:16 < RangerZ> ohh damn... nvm now...
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23:20 < aestetix> god
23:20 < aestetix> policy is hard
23:20 < aestetix> I was just at a meeting where we spent two hours going through three pages
23:21 < aestetix> including almost an hour on a single definition
23:26 < aestetix> So I just talked to Nadia and Matt, two lawyers who were at the Facebook/Sisters meeting
23:26 < aestetix> Facebook fucked up even more than I thought.
23:31 < aestetix> http://instagram.com/p/tHCQJ9h66v/
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