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04:08 < notlarry>  
04:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YkLPxQp_y0 lol
04:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Scottish Independence - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
04:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> he needs to be on CNN/MSNBC/FOX and ABC/NBC/CBS for the 6-7 pm timeslot every day
04:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
06:05 < aestetix_> twitter is so much better when I'm not using it
06:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> twitter agrees
06:22 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: same for me and facebook
06:23 <@Shadow404> i actually enjoy twitter
06:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> facebook is only a collection of my HS grads
06:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> and some from undergrad
06:35 < aestetix_> heh
06:36 < aestetix_> The thing that's called "social media" seems to be to not be very social.
06:36 < aestetix_> And I also kind of dismiss it as being media, which I normally ascribe at least some weight or meaning.
06:40 < aestetix_> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/15/opinion/a-bigger-midterm-election-turnout.html
06:48 <@Dagmar> Maybe if we're lucky, 70% of the voters will come out, realize that both the candidates are douchbags, and just burn the place down.
06:49 < aestetix_> I may cast a few votes for Mickey Mouse for various positions this year
06:49 < aestetix_> He would make a great mayor of Oakland
06:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> i've actually been thinking about this a lot, in the area of education and 'good' discussion
06:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> FB in particular was awesome to use when you _HAD_ to have an .EDU email to register
06:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> great way for college people to communicate together with their friends, and discover new ones
06:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> or look at MEMEs
06:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
06:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> then it went public, and it went into the "game stage"
06:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> and how its in the "ubiquity" stage
06:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> I enjoyed playing some of the flash games, they had an interesting social aspect (My one prof used the 10 colors of hay cubes to use resistor colors to color code out pi to the 100th digit.... lol)
06:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I grew past that stage, as a lot of people I know have
06:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think the issue is that we're running into a biological limit, there have been many studies that show humans can only really 'know' ~200 people
06:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> at least, per context
06:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> and now this is my hypothesis(no real proof by me...) :  that "social" media Is probably best used in a 4chan anon way, or a federated (~100 people per group ) that can create constructive dialog and move an agenda/topic forward
06:56 < aestetix_> by many studies do you mean dunbar's number?
06:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> that was one of the earliest
06:56 < aestetix_> (and yes I have read the original study on that)
06:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> but there have been others since then on the size of company devisisoins
06:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> devisions*
06:57 < aestetix_> divisions?
06:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> plants
06:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> different 'offices'
06:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> I looked into it after reading one of gladwell's books, I don't remember them offhand, but it was interesting. and Its actually on my list of things to fully go through
06:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> he made an offhand comment about them, and I thought it was interesting
06:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> but either way, the original study alone is enough for some research into this
07:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> see if <200 online people in a 'group' could be more 1) polite 2) useful 3) productive 4) less insulting 5) less random mentions of 'penis'
07:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
07:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
07:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> (obviously not this channel)
07:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> damn... I'll have to look through old bookmarks .b/c this type of just random talk is all I can find on it now http://www.wework.com/magazine/inspiration/dunbars-number-means-business-today/
07:27 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: are you going all Robert Pirsig on us
07:27 < aestetix_> "What is quality?"
07:30 < aestetix_> http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/15/world/asia/china-cellphone-sidewalk/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
07:30 < aestetix_> god
07:31 < aestetix_> Because someone on their phone is totally going to stay in their lane
07:33 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:41 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Pbps1EwAW-0
07:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbps1EwAW-0&feature=youtu.be&t=21m50s
07:49 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Moment of Truth - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
07:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c the first 21:50 is dead air
07:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> and the rest is hot air ;)
07:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
07:51 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: around 1hr in Snowden comes in
07:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> personally?
07:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> otherwise 'ehh'
07:51 < aestetix_> yes
07:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> no
07:52 < aestetix_> Which surprises me a bit, because he's been so shy to public speaking.
07:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> he's via streaming
07:52 < aestetix_> well yeah
07:52 < aestetix_> I don't think he's leaving Russia anytime soon
07:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think he will in 2017
07:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c he'll be a talking point in 2016
07:53 < aestetix_> That would be interesting
07:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> not sure which side is going to back him and his actions, but I feel one side will
07:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> normally i'd say republicans b/c they want 'smaller gov't that cant do what he did'
07:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> but they are war hawks
07:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> so they want more spying
07:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
07:54 < aestetix_> that said
07:54 < aestetix_> Snowden has turned into kind of a cultural icon now
07:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> of hate and scorn for the next 20 years
07:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
07:55 < aestetix_> haha
07:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> but yeah
07:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> his problem is... He didn't grab enough info... geeze
07:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
07:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> and I only half jest about that
07:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> he went broad, but not deep, seemed like it was kinda just cp * > ~/media/usb1
07:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> his revelations were sometimes good, othertimes 'umm... what' lol
07:58 < aestetix_> well
07:58 < aestetix_> I'm curious how much more there is
08:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> apparently 'most' of it still
08:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c they tried to be 'selective' with what they released
08:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I don't know if thats true... or more of a bluff to keep themselves alive... (again, only half kidding)
08:02 < aestetix_> well as long as Snowden keeps his dick in his pants...
08:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c I don't really trust the NSA to be honest whether or not it has figured out what he copied
08:26 <@Shadow404> i think god has a sick sense of hunor and when i die, i expect to find him laughing
08:26 <@Shadow404> mostly at ware... but yeah
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08:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> your own personal hell would be you and ware stuck in a room together forever
08:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> well ware and weev, taking turns ;)
08:41 <@Dolemite> Is weev the guy that Anarchival had the hots for?
08:43 <@Shadow404> eeekk, anarchival and her having the hots for anyone  scary
08:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, he's the asshat that "hacked" at&t's info on ipads
08:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> by incrementing "unique" ids...that were sequential
08:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> then told the FBI/DOJ to "go fuck themselves" or some variant of that.... yeah... he got lucky they tried him in the wrong jurisdiction... lol
08:46 <@Shadow404> nice
08:46 <@Shadow404> so yeah, there are some cute women in the hacker community, but NOT anarchival
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08:51 <@Dolemite> Shadow404: Women don't exist to be cute.  I know you may have a hard time wrapping your brain around that.
08:51 <@Shadow404> yeah they do
08:51 <@Dolemite> However, in Anarchival's case, she has a toxic personality.
08:51 <@Shadow404> why else do they exist?
08:51 <@Dolemite> Shadow404: Thank you for being THE perfect example of why you don't see them in your social circles
08:52 <@Shadow404> haha
08:53 <@Shadow404> that comment can not be further from the truth
08:54 <@Shadow404> you need to attend one of the weekend parties i go to
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08:56 <@Shadow404> also my "cute" co worker just delivered a cup of hot water for my morning herbal tea
08:56 <@Dolemite> Where the hell is the pig this morning?  He's usually bitching about NetEng by now.
09:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> I've been very lucky in that the smartest girls I know are also very much not hard on the eyes
09:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> but if you have to pick either average of one and high of the other with brains and looks... avg looks it is
09:11 <@opticron> correct
09:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> as THE SPUD said... You can't fix stupid
09:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
09:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> or was it The Tater ?
09:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> or both...
09:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> i haven't seen that in a while
09:14 <@Bahhumbug> Ot was Tater Salad.
09:14 <@Bahhumbug> s/Ot/It/
09:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats it
09:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> but we forgot the 3rd pillar of the tri-force that crazypants is lacking in... 'attitude'
09:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
09:31 <@Dagmar> No, she has _lots_ of that
09:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, but of the wrong kind
09:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> adding a negative = subtraction
09:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> which... apparently thats how they teach subtraction now
09:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> as 'adding a negative'  (which is true... but they forgo 'subtraction' as a _thing_ now) or some such thing in basic math education now...
09:35 <@Dagmar> Hehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okFfbONE9sw
09:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Lets Play - 7 Days To Die - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
09:35 <@Dagmar> Yankees playing 7daystodie
09:36 <@Dagmar> watching a man being killed.... by a dog.
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10:10 <@Mirage> http://features-beta.slashdot.org/story/99/10/23/202252/uncle-robins-advice-for-lovelorn-geeks
10:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Uncle Robin's Advice for Lovelorn Geeks - Slashdot (at features-beta.slashdot.org)
10:11 <@Mirage> Wow..that's retention for ya. "Roblimo posted more than 14 years ago"
10:16 <@Dagmar> Still true
10:17 <@Dagmar> These guys are incredibly dim
10:17 <@Dagmar> Dude is trying to cook corn, and hasn't noticed the button labeled "COOK"
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11:18 <@Dagmar> It's a good thing AAA exists or people like this would be found starved to death on the side of the road because of a simple flat tire
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11:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpuOJ7OuKPI hehehe
11:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Binary News | Nintendo 3DS - Miiverse Glitch Exploit Sees Players Posting Unauthorised Images - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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11:56 <@rattle> Is nothing sacred?
11:57 <@rattle> .msg nickserv set password clownshow
11:57 <@rattle> Oops!
12:02 <@CRasH180> lol
12:03 <@CRasH180> always type a password change in the server screen, not the channel window. Just in case
12:09 < scoob> CRasH180, why would I send my password to the server when the server can get compromised?
12:09 < scoob> #duh
12:11 <@CRasH180> I'll see your #duh and raise you a #goodluckwiththat
12:25 < frsilent> god I love this subreddit, http://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/comments/2gg4fu/psbattle_kid_in_duck_costume/
12:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: PsBattle: Kid in duck costume : photoshopbattles (at www.reddit.com)
12:29 <@Dagmar>  "Discussed Con business" <-- worthless minutes
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13:46 < aestetix_> vagina
14:12 <@Mirage> Corydon76: ping
14:12 <@Corydon76> Mirage: pong
14:13  * aestetix_ hugs Corydon76 
14:13 <@Mirage> What brand AP are you using?
14:13 < aestetix_> I missed you!
14:13  * Mirage is getting old and forgetful.
14:13 <@Corydon76> It's the Ubiquiti  NanoStation or Picostation, whichever one has the omnidirectional antenna
14:14 <@Corydon76> Picostation M2
14:14 <@Corydon76> Where the 2 means 2.4GHz.  There's also an M5
14:14 <@Mirage> Cool.  I remembered looking it up when we discussed it a few months ago.   My Cisco is getting a little long in the tooth.  Looking into replacement options.
14:15 <@Corydon76> Ever heard of the Meraki line?
14:15 <@Mirage> nope
14:15 <@Corydon76> Cisco is supposed to be sending me a free one, for attending an online webinar
14:16 <@Corydon76> Here's the link, if you can spare an hour on Wednesday:  https://meraki.cisco.com/webinars
14:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cisco Meraki Webinars (at meraki.cisco.com)
14:17 <@Corydon76> The thing is entirely configured in the cloud, which is either really clever or an invitation for massive exploitation.  I'm not sure which, yet.
14:18 <@Corydon76> NewEgg has the model they're allegedly sending me at $729
14:19 <@Mirage> I'm looking to replace http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124337&cm_re=cisco-_-33-124-337-_-Product
14:20 <@Corydon76> The Picostation is dated, in that the uplink is only 100BaseT
14:21 <@Corydon76> But it is POE, and it really does amp up its power (and therefore distance)
14:21 <@Mirage> Mine's dated too, even though they still sell them.   I don't they ever properly fixed the VLAN support
14:22 <@Mirage> er, don't think they ever...
14:23 <@Corydon76> I've never managed a large enough LAN to make learning VLANs important to me, other than working within the confines of one
14:24 <@Corydon76> So I can't give you any insight as to VLANs on the Ubiquiti.  It does work in my scenario of a wider area of coverage, though
14:31 <@Dagmar> yay fun http://www.wired.com/2014/09/r0-ebola/
14:31 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Mathematics of Ebola Trigger Stark Warnings: Act Now or Regret It | WIRED (at www.wired.com)
14:36 <@Mirage> Corydon76: I have 3 SSID's running right now for 3 different VLANS.  1: Normal (Laptop, printer, etc), 2: Media (MythTV, Blueray, SmartTV), 3: Guest (internet only)
14:39 <@Mirage> Normal is on the same vlan as my workstation network.  Servers are on their own DMZ net.   Everything is behind OpenBSD to handle routing, proxy/filter and connected to gigabit cisco swicth
15:26 < aestetix_> oh the land of hot interns
15:31 < aestetix_> anyone here work with nginx/uwsgi?
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16:27 < aestetix_> and fuck facebook
16:36 <@SuMo_D> it steal your girlfriend?
16:41 < aestetix_> lol
16:41 < aestetix_> no, the drag queen issue
16:41 < aestetix_> http://t.co/g1K0uhw45z
16:43 <@SuMo_D> oh that's so dumb
16:43 < aestetix_> ok anyone here used redis?
16:43 <@SuMo_D> especially after they released the 200 ways to gender yourself
16:44 < aestetix_> I know you can do replication with redis. Wondering if you can do a master-master setup with it
16:44 < aestetix_> SuMo_D: agreed
16:44 < aestetix_> Facebook is, almost by dictionary definition, bigoted.
16:44 <@SuMo_D> too bad I use it for so many things
16:44 < aestetix_> You're not alone.
16:44 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind these are queens involved, and they're completely not known for blowing things out of proportion, ever
16:44 < aestetix_> hahah
16:45 < aestetix_> Dagmar: that element just makes this all the more entertaining :)
16:54 <@Mirage> hrm.. probably old news, but: https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
16:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Yes, were being bought by Microsoft (at mojang.com)
17:00 <@Dagmar> Yeah, Im having fun torturing kids
17:00 <@Dagmar> "The absolute best that can happen once Microsoft is involved is that they might do nothing."
17:00 <@Dagmar> THey're under the impression that Mojang will still open-source the code at some point
17:01 <@Dagmar> LOL!  Not anymore!
17:03 < aestetix_> ok so
17:03 < aestetix_> let's say I have mysql-proxy going to a few master databases
17:03 < aestetix_> What happens if the proxy fails
17:04  * Dagmar smacks aestetix on the back of the head
17:04 < aestetix_> what
17:05 <@Dagmar> What do you *think* is going to happen?
17:05 < aestetix_> that was a rhetorical question
17:05 <@Dagmar> Sparkles and rainbows might shoot out?
17:05 < aestetix_> The answer is to have multiple proxies
17:05 < aestetix_> haha
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17:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> haha Mojang got 2.5billion
17:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> not just 2
17:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c you know whats cool, not 500,000 extra dollars but 500,000,000 extra dollars
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17:24 < scoob> eh, what's an extra 500 million dollars here and there
17:24 <@CRasH180> aestetix_ and Dagmar, the answer is to have extra sparkles and rainbows ready
17:24 < aestetix_> you know
17:25 < aestetix_> I've seen a lot of sparkles and rainbows
17:25 < aestetix_> And I'll tell you, I really don't like them
17:25 <@CRasH180> Interesting, in a server room?
17:28 < aestetix_> Just like how a good sysadmin is one you forget exists
17:28 < aestetix_> a happy server is one you forget exists
17:30 <@CRasH180> true
17:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> but sparkles and rainbows are what happen when you collect enough magic blue smoke from the inside of processors
17:44 <@Dickie> You guys are trippin' balls
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17:45 <@Corydon76> Dickie: as long as you don't trip on my balls, we're good
17:49 < aestetix_> Corydon76: did you resolve your differences with phreaknic?
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17:53 < aestetix_> Dagmar: I was listening to techno and started doing a little liquid
17:53 < aestetix_> Others stared at me. Apparently nobody does that anymore
17:57 <@Dagmar> Meh.  Just tell them to stop oppressing you.
18:04 <@Dickie> how low do those poor fellas hang?
18:08 < aestetix_> god I hate entitled security "researchers"
18:08 < aestetix_> who find random bugs in your software without prompting, and then demand reparations
18:09 <@Dagmar> If they're demanding money, tell them to take their extortion plans and shove them up their asses.
18:09 <@Dagmar> FUCK "researchers" who demand payment
18:10 < aestetix_> Not only are they demanding money, but they are threatning to make a public disclosure
18:10 <@Dagmar> At least hackers who publish 0days without notification have more honor
18:10 <@Dagmar> Tell them to fucking do it and shut up then
18:11 <@Dagmar> What they're doing now is _extortion_
18:11 <@Dagmar> Feel free to tell the feds
18:11 <@Dagmar> Everyone knows the rules by now
18:11 <@Dagmar> They have no excuse for demanding money
18:11 <@Dagmar> It's simply extortion.
18:12 <@Dagmar> You *never* demand money for that specific reason.
18:16 < aestetix_> The whole bug bounty thing is fucking annoying.
18:16 < aestetix_> Although it's great for companies.
18:16 < aestetix_> You get all kinds of free security work.
18:21 <@Dagmar> If you're offering a bounty, then you're paying for it
18:22 < aestetix_> Yes
18:22 <@Dagmar> _Demanding_ a bounty "or else" when one wasn't offered is extortion
18:22 < aestetix_> But imagine all the people who spend hours looking for bugs and don't find them
18:22 <@Dagmar> It's the "making threats" part that will send people to jail
18:22 < aestetix_> that's free security work
18:22 <@Dagmar> That free security work would happen anyway
18:22 <@Dagmar> Paying a bounty just lowers the chance it'll simply be exploited privately for entertainment or sold on the black market
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18:40 < RangerZ> hahahaha @ https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1706255291/the-money-gun
18:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Money Gun by Michael Schexnayder Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
18:42 <@SuMo_D> uuuuuummmmmm
18:44 < RangerZ> pretty much...
18:45 < RangerZ> first of all.... if you're dating a girl who wants money shot at her out of agun... and you didn't just win the powerball.... then you should break up with her, lol
18:49 < RangerZ> if thats your choice.... s/girl/guy
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20:25 < RangerZ> https://i.imgur.com/WMGZVtQ.jpg
20:25 < RangerZ> oh.... good airtime
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21:12 <@Dagmar> I do not understand why so many people call for this Coors/Cocaine thing
21:12 <@Dagmar> s/call/fall/
21:21 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: quite simple, actually.  There's a sucker born every minute.  People are generally foolish.
21:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah but this one doesn't even make any sense
21:22 <@Corydon76> Doesn't have to.  All someone has to do to appeal to people's natural tendency to doubt.
21:23 <@Corydon76> It's the same reason why people clamor to see a woman getting beaten in an elevator, or celebrities naked.
21:24 < aestetix_> You know
21:24 < aestetix_> The idea that someone would lose their job for something they did in their personal life is disturbing.
21:24 <@Corydon76> They always doubt that our brands are as wholesome as marketed, and the story provides that proof.
21:24 <@Dickie> They don't have to be celebrities
21:25 <@Corydon76> aestetix_: they don't.
21:25 < aestetix_> Isn't that what happened with that football player?
21:25 <@Corydon76> They absolutely do no lose their jobs based upon what they did.
21:26 <@Corydon76> They lose their jobs because they're unable to control the disclosure of what they may have done.
21:26 <@Corydon76> Rice wasn't fired because he beat his fiance.  Rice was fired because a recording was released to the public in which he beat his fiance.
21:27 <@Corydon76> If he was to be fired for the beating, he would have been fired back in May, not now.
21:28 <@Corydon76> ACORN wasn't shut down because of what they actually did.  ACORN was shut down because a recording was released that alleged they did something pretty horrific.
21:29 < aestetix_> Ok, so here's a question.
21:29 < aestetix_> Someone else disclosed something about them, obviously against their wishes. What retribution comes to the discloser?
21:30 <@Dagmar> Nothing in this instance.
21:30 < aestetix_> (Yes, I realize how loaded that question is)
21:30 <@Dagmar> You don't exactly have a right to privacy in view of several 24/7 security cameras.
21:30 < aestetix_> It's like the saying
21:30 < aestetix_> The republicans want to make the government small enough to fit in your bedroom
21:31 <@Dagmar> This wasn't a bedroom.
21:32 <@Dagmar> Also, the saying is not "What happens in Atlantic City, stays in Atlantic City."
21:32 < aestetix_> Actually who disclosed the video?
21:33 <@Dagmar> The hotel.
21:33 <@Dagmar> ...and the police.
21:33 <@Dagmar> The NFL got a black eye just for pretending they never saw the video.
21:33 < aestetix_> So the police caused him to lose his job?
21:33 < aestetix_> Why did they release it?
21:34 <@Dagmar> When you sucker-punch your girlfriend, that's assault
21:34 < aestetix_> Yes, and I'm fine with law enforcement having that. I'm not ok with the general public having it.
21:34 < aestetix_> Since it's likely to result in him getting sucker-punched. Which may or may not be a good thing, but it's up to the courts to decide.
21:35 <@Dagmar> You should probably ask TMZ Sports how much they paid for it
21:35 < aestetix_> Ah ok. So the police are just corrupt.
21:35 <@Dagmar> I think they got it from the hotel in question.
21:36 < aestetix_> Oh, so TMZ paid the hotel for it?
21:36 < RangerZ> yep
21:36 <@Dagmar> Apparently
21:36 <@Dagmar> Sensationalist or not, they are a "news outlet"
21:36 <@Dagmar> Paying for details on a story isn't really new ground there.
21:36 < aestetix_> Yep. And the hotel *does* own the video...
21:37 < RangerZ> sadly, they are one of the few places _breaking_ news
21:38 < RangerZ> even rachel maddow had a segment about that, how its sad that TMZ was who broke this
21:51 < aestetix_> man
21:51 < aestetix_> you know you have good coworkers when you ask for adderall and get modafinal
21:51 <@Dagmar> heh
21:56 < aestetix_> http://www.vox.com/2014/9/15/6131919/democrats-and-republicans-really-are-different
22:02 < RangerZ> let alone the physiological differences where conservatives are generally more afraid of new things
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22:06 < RangerZ> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/04/inquiring-minds-john-hibbing-physiology-ideology
22:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: This Machine Can Tell Whether Youre Liberal or Conservative | Mother Jones (at www.motherjones.com)
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22:09 < RangerZ> and then of course there is SuMo_D
22:09 < RangerZ> ;) lol
22:10 < RangerZ> we were just listing awesome people... don't bother looking for other logs... -_-
22:10 < RangerZ> hehe
22:11 < RangerZ> SuMo_D: anyways, I meant to ask you, got a link to that maker event you got going on halloween ?
22:19 < aestetix_> well
22:19 < aestetix_> I swear the nym stuff brings me interesting company
22:21 < RangerZ> aestetix_: stop hanging out with druggies in SF
22:21 < RangerZ> you don't want to get into politics, and the longer you do that, you'll end up there
22:22 < RangerZ> lol
22:22 < aestetix_> I may be about to have a meeting with one of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
22:22 < RangerZ> fucking SF... had a triad member as a drug smugler
22:22 < RangerZ> in elected office
22:22 < RangerZ> lol
22:23 < RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Yee
22:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: Leland Yee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
22:24 < aestetix_> Yep.
22:26 <@Dagmar> So... an honest criminal in office, then?
22:29 < RangerZ> nah
22:29 < RangerZ> he was hypocrital as fuck, in a lot of areas
22:29 < RangerZ> was anti-drug/gun/criminal... was smuggling/employing all 3
22:30 < RangerZ> and he's one of the NRA whipping boys now for gun control
22:31 < RangerZ> which ... believe me... I want _sensible_ gun control, which we refuse to do, b/c the gun manf. would fucking flip out, lol
22:39 <@SuMo_D> its not a maker event for Halloween
22:40 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYoct4e42QI ...ohhh.... not good....
22:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Urban Outfitters ‘Unintentionally’ Sells Bloody Kent State Sweatshirts - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:40 < RangerZ> ohh I thought it was, what is it then?
22:40 <@SuMo_D> that is a big house party epic mash up of every genre in our city blowout
22:40 <@SuMo_D> Maker Faire in Atlanta is  the first weekend of Oct
22:40 <@SuMo_D> and that's going to g be awesome
22:40 < RangerZ> ahh
22:41 <@SuMo_D> and I found out the STEM teacher's conf is the same week
22:41 <@SuMo_D> so yeah I'm going to be beat for awhile
22:41 < RangerZ> lol
22:41 <@SuMo_D> no way I'd be traveling to TN
22:41 < RangerZ> I don't think anyone IN TN is going to be at PN either, lol
22:42 < RangerZ> I might borrow a Google Glass, and follow aestetix_ around
22:43 < RangerZ> just to make him hit me, so I can sue him
22:43 < RangerZ> lol
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