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00:28 < aestetix_> wait
00:28 < aestetix_> Dagmar: did you sleep at all today?
00:28 <@Dagmar> I had a nap
00:29 < aestetix_> heh
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00:58 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz0o9clVQu8
00:58 < aestetix_> This video is awesome
00:58 < aestetix_> "Millennials in the Workplace Training Video "
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01:07 <@Wilpig_> it speaks!
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01:45 < aestetix_> My cat is lazy, entitled, and unemployed.
01:45 < aestetix_> Does that make her a millennial?
01:51 <@Wilpig_> she fita your desfinition
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02:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> fuck... I hate when I'm so dead tired I can't even pay attention to TV
02:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> then only sleep like 3hrs
02:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> wtf
02:36 < notfie-> smoke weed about it
02:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah, not my thing,
02:38 < notfie-> me neither
02:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> i think it should be legal, but my choice to never use it
02:39 < notfie-> if it were available to me and legal I'd probably hit it up once in a while
02:41 <@eryc> i'd like to smoke your cremated remains
02:43 < notfie-> I'm going straight in the ground, no casket...
02:43 < notfie-> but if you'll smoke it you can have my pineal gland
02:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm going to be cremated and then a plane will spread my ashes over all of the SE us, from 30k ft...
02:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> so you can all breathe me in, and cough once
02:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> sorta the .... Scotty... ashes being blown up when attempted to be put int space... hehe
02:48 < notfie-> init 0
02:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> exit(1)
02:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> or system.exit(fieryExplosion)
02:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
02:55 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: drink some booze
02:55 < aestetix_> or jerk off
02:55 < aestetix_> or take a valium
02:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> none of those would do too much, plus I can't take downers
02:58 < aestetix_> https://isleaked.com/en.php
02:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> every one i've taken has the opposite on me, and almost puts me into stroke area
02:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats a major reason why I don't want to ever do drugs
03:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> plus I wouldn't want to be called Dagmar ;)
03:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> or FFS... even you aestetix_
03:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
03:03 <@Dagmar> I've done a lot of _different_ drugs
03:03 <@Dagmar> It's not like I'm some fiend who eats them with the breakfast like Lucky Charms marshmallows or something
03:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> Hey... just because you did it once, doesn't mean anything
03:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
03:04 <@Dagmar> Precisely.
03:04 <@Dagmar> ...and when I say "Z is bad for you and you shoudln't do them" I'm not just talking out my ass
03:05 <@Dagmar> I wanted to scream at some of the hipsters who were so entirely into custom pharmaceutical potpourri, acting like I don't know anything about drugs.
03:06 < aestetix_> lemme guess, 25i?
03:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> just give them a couple mg of acid, and then leave them there in a puddle for the next few days
03:06 <@Dagmar> I wasn't even keeping track
03:06 <@Dagmar> 8-10 hours, RangerZ
03:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> give them the Albert Hofmann dose then
03:08 < aestetix_> heh
03:08 < aestetix_> wasn't that several hundred ug?
03:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> look at what I said 1'mg'
03:08 <@Dagmar> There's no telling how strong that dose was
03:08 <@Dagmar> It was airborne
03:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> and use 'µg' ;)
03:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> not hard to not just ascii lol
03:09 <@Dagmar> One of the things it's said that let's you know you got it right if you're making LSd and you're not working under a vented hood, is that the fern tendrils growing out of spacetime will explain it to you via a series of communicative bell tones.
03:10 < aestetix_> 1 mg is a lot of lsd
03:11 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard
03:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: William Leonard Pickard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
03:12 <@Dagmar> When this guy was initially approached by the FBI, he _knew_ he was dealing with the FBI, because they wanted to buy a *kilogram* of LSD, as a "sample"
03:12 <@Dagmar> ...and basically, NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DOES THAT
03:13 <@Dagmar> A kilogram would be enough to fuck up a good part of New York City
03:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> just drop it into the water supply
03:13 <@Dagmar> Folks would think it was the damn rapture
03:14 <@Dagmar> ...and possible a really great Spring sale
03:14 <@Dagmar> ...and Tuesday, all over again.
03:14 <@Dagmar> You don't often get Tuesday twice in a row.
03:14 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: It's not as easy as that
03:15 <@Dagmar> Dosage is very, very small.
03:15 <@Dagmar> You'd want to aerosolize it
03:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> [ He was producing kilogram quantities of LSD and putting them onto windowpane, microdot, and blotter forms.]
03:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> jesus
03:16 <@Dagmar> About every five weeks
03:16 <@Dagmar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUQNqIIGN88
03:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: HD Historic Stock Footage EFFECTS OF LSD ON TROOPS 1958 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:18 <@Dagmar> In the water supply the dosage would be too variable, and some people would just be incapacitated like how ketamine "tranquilizes" big cats
03:20 <@Dagmar> The British did some experiments as well, with similar results
03:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> so ... I don't know if it was posted in here or not but #whyIstayed ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/digiornos-pizza-whyistayed-tweet_n_5790504.html
03:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: DiGiorno Interrupts Serious Conversation About Domestic Violence To Sell Pizza (at www.huffingtonpost.com)
03:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> nvm... yes it was
03:21 <@Dagmar> RangerZ|Laptop: WOW.
03:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> but still...
03:22 <@Dagmar> I am saddened by: "Twitter is a place for complex debates about important topics."
03:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> I wouldn't even fire the PR guy... b/c the nightmares in his/her head is enough punishment
03:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> s/guy/person
03:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> but yeah...
03:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> the reason why gamergate shit has becomes such a fucking mess now... is b/c of a small % of assholes who flood the airwaves on twitter/etc
03:23 <@Dagmar> Might as well jump into the middle of a WWII documentary with gibbering about "REICH-OUSLY GOOD PIZZA"
03:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> plus...140char is only enough for a link and a few hashtags
03:24 <@Dagmar> ...and then talk about the quality of your ovens.
03:24 <@Dagmar> Someone just wasn't qualified for the job.
03:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: damn it... you went there
03:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c I thought that... but I didn't want to say it
03:24 <@Dagmar> I really can't think of any way to make that tweet worse
03:25 <@Dagmar> The other biggest hot button I can think of is the holocause
03:25 <@Dagmar> er Holocaust
03:25 <@Dagmar> I would certainly never do such a thing
03:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> "#WhyIStayed please send us pics of you and your pizza, so we know how much you love pizza"
03:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats about it
03:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> the only way it could have been worse
03:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> or.... "#WhyIStay Because they have pizza here"
03:27 <@Dagmar> 4chan would have found someone with a black eye, given them pizza, taken a picture, and tweeted it back
03:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> could you imagine...
03:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> oh god...
03:27 <@Dagmar> I wonder
03:27 <@Dagmar> They're offering to make personal apologies to everyone.
03:28 <@Dagmar> Where do you go to hire people to do that because, well, it's not seasonal work
03:28 <@Dagmar> ...but you'd have to need a _lot_ of people staffed very quickly.
03:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats a professional marketing position for a big company like that
03:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> _we_ would write a script for it...
03:29 <@Dagmar> Yes, but then it wouldn't be a personal apology
03:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> randomization of what you say
03:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> easy enough
03:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
03:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> insert name from original tweet
03:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
03:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
03:29 <@Dagmar> Would you _really_ want to risk people burning your office down?
03:30 <@Dagmar> One tweet of "We're sorry you are a pizza" and the jig would be up
03:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> Microsoft Buying Minecraft & Mojang for $2 Billion
03:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> wow...
03:30 <@Dagmar> Not sure how true it is but it's got people freaked
03:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2604678/microsoft-may-buy-minecraft-maker-mojang-for-2-billion.html
03:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: Microsoft may buy Minecraft maker Mojang for $2 billion | PCWorld (at www.pcworld.com)
03:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> thank god... minecraft will become a Xbox one exclusive
03:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehehe
03:32 <@Dagmar> Notch tweeted about it this afternoon
03:32 < aestetix_> wait
03:32 < aestetix_> twitter is a place for complex debates?
03:32 <@Dagmar> aestetix: LOL
03:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> that and pizza
03:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
03:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3w1g1WS80c
03:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Are "Sugar Babies" Prostitutes? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
03:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> hahahaha
03:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> apparently a documentary coming out on it
03:35 < aestetix_> you know, I've totally changed the way I use twitter now
03:35 < aestetix_> I stay on my "home" page, not the timeline. And mostly use it to post and read responses
03:35 < aestetix_> I will occasionally look at the timeline, but it is so infested with bullshit now it's not worth it
03:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> ouch... that trailer turns dark at the end
03:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: yeah... I think twitter is a glorified RSS feed
03:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> and should be treated as such
03:39 <@Dagmar> It's architecture is hostile to complex topics
03:40 < aestetix_> Yes
03:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> twitter should only ever point to info, not be info itself
03:40 < aestetix_> yep
03:40 <@Dagmar> It's like a roomful of people with megaphones that only work for 4 seconds at a go
03:41 < aestetix_> I think it's fair to say that twitter is destroying any kind of dialogue
03:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah
03:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> its a needed experiment, etc
03:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> also... youtube comments are more toxic
03:43 < aestetix_> Are you suggesting youtube integrates with twitter?
03:43 < aestetix_> That would be worse than google plus
03:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> you only feel so bad about twitter b/c it has a use, and still is used for legit reasons
03:44 < aestetix_> I am sad because twitter used to be great, and then it started to suck
03:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> yep, after the 3rd user
03:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> -_-
03:45 < aestetix_> Nah
03:45 < aestetix_> I think one of the most annoying things they did was giving a button to automate retweeting
03:48 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think it was the public API
03:48 < RangerZ|Laptop> think about not having the ability to post from a link someone posts... pre-written for you, and all
03:51 <@Wilpig_> okay this show that I mentioned the other day "you're the worst" is actually funny.  just made jason laugh out loud at vandy
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04:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: you should check out that RWBY
04:45 <@Wilpig_> oh yeah
04:45 <@Wilpig_> i'll check that after this movie
04:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> it stikes that balance of 'wow, thats kinda cool...wait ...what... damn you... Now I'm curious and want to see more...' lol
04:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> art style takes a bit to get used to, but I kinda like it
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04:57 < aestetix_> http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/a-new-type-of-phishing-attack/
05:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> wow....
05:01 < aestetix_> yeah
05:01 < aestetix_> That is fucking evil
05:02 < aestetix_> I'm trying to think of a good way to prevent that
05:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> can't really
05:02 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: that's clever
05:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> honestly... we're at... and getting worse... with webpages and security
05:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c HTML5 is going to be fucking EVIL for shit like this
05:03 < aestetix_> The only thing I can think of
05:03 < aestetix_> is doing some kind of checksum for the title and favicon, and forcing that for pages
05:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> pull the favicon from the server directly, not allowing subsitution
05:03 < aestetix_> and then having the browser give a special symbol if they match
05:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
05:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: yeah, but that won't matter
05:04 < aestetix_> yeah
05:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> there was a nice paper I did a report on, showing that 'normal people' don't even understand URL highlighting
05:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> or the green box in chrome (FF too?) when SSL cert is valid
05:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
05:05 <@Wilpig_> oh hell.  that page has a proof of concept built in too
05:05 <@Wilpig_> wow
05:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> yep
05:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> and honestly... it "fooled" me
05:05 <@Wilpig_> it got me for a sec too
05:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> and we KNEW what the fuck the video was talking about
05:06 <@Wilpig_> luckily I don't ever see that particular login page so it snapped me back to reality
05:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, same... but you never know exactly anymore
05:06 < aestetix_> luckily I don't use gmail
05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> did you read that it works for twitter and other stuff too?
05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> citibank
05:07 < aestetix_> yes
05:07 < aestetix_> I mean for that particular page
05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah
05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> but still
05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> jesus
05:12 < juice2> sigh
05:12 < juice2> this website gets better and better
05:12 < aestetix_> juice2: what website
05:12 < juice2> phreaknic.info
05:12 < aestetix_> what happend now
05:13 < aestetix_> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8286898
05:13 < aestetix_> "One solution I have seen, is you select a custom image during the account signup process, and it appears on the login page. That way, if there is no cartoon elephant on the login page, then it is not right."
05:14 < aestetix_> that's an interesting approach
05:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> its a varient on 2 factor auth
05:14 < aestetix_> although that only works if you realize you didn't log out
05:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> some banks use it
05:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> juice2: whats up?
05:15 < juice2> still can't get it to accept buying a ticket
05:15 < juice2> and had to change the password
05:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> juice2: honestly... just buy at the door
05:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> save your 10$ and the risk of your CC being stolen
05:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> sorry pay* your 10$ more
05:16 < juice2> heh
05:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> also if you haven't reserved a room, the hotel is out of cheap rooms for 105/night
05:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> its not 170/night + taxes, at least on the website
05:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> they had 2 more earlier, but I told people who were looking
05:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> its now*
05:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> so I don't know if they will have any cheap ones left
05:18 <@Wilpig_> or just don't go.  i like that option, personally
05:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm not going to say that, if he/she wants to go, its up to them
05:19 <@Wilpig_> juice2 is a he
05:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> and we'll need people who want to go for next year
05:19 <@Wilpig_> he's known for juice
05:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: what you do in your bedroom with juice2 is your own business
05:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> yellow showers and all
05:19 <@Wilpig_> RangerZ|Laptop: you've never had the pleasure of sampling juice2's juice
05:19 <@Wilpig_> it's quite tasty and fucks you up fast
05:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
05:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah
05:20 < juice2> how would they be out of rooms when this was just announced 2 weeks ago ...
05:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> juice2:  it was "announced" months ago
05:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> to local groups and such
05:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats one of the reasons for the "drama" thats surrounding the con this year
05:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> the CFP and site just got put up
05:20 < juice2> yeah because the website worked before 2 weeks ago lol
05:20 <@Wilpig_> the difference of having a hotel that wants you there and wants to work with you, especially this group of last minute room bookers, and one that doesn't give two shits about you
05:21 < juice2> 7,8,10,11,12,13,14,15,16, might stay home since nothing works
05:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> johnnyx filled most of the speaker spots before he put the CFP out... or so he says, but now he's saying he needs more speakers... so I dunno
05:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm honestly not trying to be an ass (it comes naturally) but we don't really know whats going on
05:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> the only reason we know about the hotel is b/c I called them earlier personally
05:23 < juice2> well I am saying telling me you announce hotel information locally to people that sure don't need it vs out of town people and then they book all the rooms at the cheaper rate makes no sense at all
05:23 <@Wilpig_> considering most local people don't book rooms either
05:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> juice2: preaching to the choir
05:24 <@Wilpig_> common sense not welcome in phreaknic planning.
05:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> juice2: https://phreaknic.info/about
05:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: About | PhreakNIC (at phreaknic.info)
05:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> use that email
05:25 < juice2> i remembered I had chrome on my nexus 7 and tried that on the site and stil lthe same error
05:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats about the only thing I can suggest at this point, b/c the officers have decided that they aren't going to come into this IRC channel anymore until after the con
05:25 < juice2> what to mail bomb the account?
05:25 < juice2> :)
05:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> don't they might threaten to sick a fed. AG on you... lol
05:26 <@Wilpig_> that email address.  lol
05:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> its on the site
05:27 <@Wilpig_> that's just hilarious.  we had help@   nashville2600.org and phreaknic.info setup to goto all the key people in charge but they refused to use it
05:27 < juice2> not my mail server so feds can take it up with the admin on the server
05:27 <@Wilpig_> when I was string pulling I had all the hotel contacts, swag, etc all went to that
05:28 <@Wilpig_> there were multiple people that knew everything whether they were directly dealing with it or not
05:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: honest answer... they don't want any comm channel that we can inspect and audit
05:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats what I'm afraid of
05:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> and 'they' = really just 1~2 people
05:28 < aestetix_> so I think I may have asked before
05:28 <@Wilpig_> dru already accused me of reading his email
05:28 < aestetix_> but why not be in the days in stadium?
05:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: this place is bigger and fancier
05:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> and more expensive
05:29 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: cause the area sucked and people just kept complaining about it
05:29 < juice2> and cheaper
05:29 < juice2> oh wait not that part
05:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> not everyone is used to oakland
05:29 < aestetix_> lol
05:29 < aestetix_> what hotel was phreaknic 7 at
05:29 <@Wilpig_> the no outside food is gonna destroy people
05:29 < aestetix_> that place was fun
05:29 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: that was the days inn
05:29 < juice2> days inn
05:29 < juice2> lol
05:30 <@Wilpig_> it's now a comfort inn, iirc
05:30 < aestetix_> maybe PN6 is what I'm thinkng of
05:30 <@Wilpig_> pn6 was the downtown ramada
05:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> no outside food?
05:30 < aestetix_> Wilpig_: no outside food?
05:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
05:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> holy fuck... I hope that doesn't count "no outside drink" too, lol
05:30 <@Wilpig_> yes, no outside food.  the maxwell house has a restaurant and part of their contract is all food comes from them
05:30 < aestetix_> that's a retarded policy for a hotel to have
05:30 < aestetix_> so if I go out to a restaurant I can't bring back a doggie bag?
05:31 < juice2> so i will bring the food to outside the hotel then rope it up the side to my room
05:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> individuals can I think, but not the con itself
05:31 <@Wilpig_> you might be able to get delivery but no pig roast.  this consuite that they want, I'd be careful cause the hotel may throw shit about it having snacks
05:31 < aestetix_> oh
05:31 < aestetix_> hmmmm
05:31 < juice2> hah no beef jerky sticks
05:31 < aestetix_> can you host the pig roast across the street or something?
05:31 <@Wilpig_> if you wanna get shanked, sure
05:32 < aestetix_> or get the hotel to help with it
05:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... this hotel isn't in the 'best' part of town either
05:32 < juice2> LOL
05:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> its a nice hotel, but yeah...
05:32 < aestetix_> so the new hotel is in the ghetto but is expensive
05:32 <@Wilpig_> it's on rosa parks blvd what do you expect?
05:32 < juice2> YOU ARE TELLING ME THE Dyas inn was bad to we move from bad to ghetto?
05:32 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: it's on the edge of the ghetto
05:32 < aestetix_> that's better than MLK
05:32 <@Wilpig_> just down the road from the days inn
05:32 < aestetix_> why not just host it in the Knights Inn
05:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> my worry is ... after this year... what the financials are going to look like... b/c  I'm afraid that the contract signed is going to make PN have to pay for unused hotel rooms or not enough food purchased, or ....god knows...
05:33 < aestetix_> or whatever that place was called
05:33 < juice2> Nashville has 1 bad spot and it isn't even buy that hotel
05:33 < juice2> if you say it is bad I was prolly there
05:33 < aestetix_> I do remember staying in the Knights Inn one year for exactly one night
05:33 < aestetix_> And walking past a crack deal on the way to my room
05:33 < aestetix_> that was kind of amusing
05:33 < aestetix_> all because it was like $20 cheaper
05:33 <@Wilpig_> from what I heard, there was the food clause in the contract and dru was quoted as saying "i've got to call them to get that changed"
05:33 < juice2> been to the waffle house at trinity lane with bullet holes all in it at 4am
05:33 <@Wilpig_> he thinks he can change the terms of a signed contract...
05:33 <@Wilpig_> SIGNED...
05:34 < juice2> is that the bad part of town?
05:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> lets give him the benefit of the doubt, and maybe that was before he signed anything
05:34 <@Wilpig_> this was last week
05:34 <@Wilpig_> and he signed over two months ago
05:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c lets be honest... he's not entirely truthful/(accurate of dates, etc) about timelines of events
05:34 < aestetix_> maybe you can have a "how to pick handcuff locks" to appeal to the local clientelle then
05:34 < juice2> aestetix_, how much did it cost you?
05:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh...
05:35 < aestetix_> juice2: I wanna say like $59 a night
05:35 < aestetix_> this was years ago. I think like 2005
05:35 < juice2> money well spent
05:35 < aestetix_> or maybe you can guest invite someone from the Ferguson police department to speak
05:36 < aestetix_> then people will know PN is happening :p
05:36 < aestetix_> fuck how was 2005 ten years ago
05:37 < juice2> another time presmike and myself got lost and rolled up to a stop sign with 3 cars at it the one in the middle facing the opposite of the outer 2.
05:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah... we'll find #WhyIStayed domestic violence hashtag and say on twitter "#WhyIStayed they had a Sweet Hacker Con going on, and an amazing restaurant to get food from"
05:37 < juice2> I was like don't stop don't want to be in the middle of the drug deal
05:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> worked so well for digorno's pizza
05:37 < aestetix_> maybe if you replace the pig roast with a fried chicken roast the hotel will let you have it
05:38 < aestetix_> I wonder what dru would say about that
05:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah, firstly thats racist
05:39  * aestetix_ lives fried chicken
05:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> secondly the hotel apparently had no problem with it... but we had to pay the hotel a lot of money to hold it
05:39 < aestetix_> likes*
05:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> like 1k or something
05:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> then pay for permitting
05:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> and other BS
05:39 < aestetix_> just pay it off the presales :p
05:39 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: the hotel will have a bbq dinner, but they will cater it
05:40 <@Wilpig_> RangerZ|Laptop: 1k would be acceptable.  the quote they originally got had like 8k
05:40 < juice2> i'd rather have it accross the street
05:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> fuck that
05:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> for 8k...we can have it at my fucking appartment
05:41 < aestetix_> 8k is a lot of money
05:41 <@Wilpig_> this location is all about money.  want a vendor, pay the hotel.  rooms cost more, space costs more, etc
05:41 <@Wilpig_> there is a wedding going on the same time as phreaknic?  oh that will end well
05:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> [ wtf... notlarry get out of their bridesmaid's gown... (why do they have one that fits him) ]
05:42 < aestetix_> I think my favorite phreaknic was the one when a clown conference was happening
05:42 <@Wilpig_> alot of the planning really does go into risk mitigation
05:42 < juice2> circus folk
05:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
05:42 < aestetix_> you know
05:42 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: those were shriners
05:42 < aestetix_> that would be funny if we hacked the wedding
05:42 < aestetix_> and had notlarry walk down the aisle
05:43 < aestetix_> I'm not sure what to do with the real bride but I'm sure you can think of something
05:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> so... who is for emailing the atheist and feminist mailing lists... and letting them know about PN, and how they should go?
05:44 < aestetix_> haha
05:44 <@Wilpig_> crazypants already did that, surely
05:44 < juice2> I'd rather have Catonic  walk down the aisle
05:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> notlarry can give him away
05:45 < aestetix_> juice2: he might get laid that way
05:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> actually... I honestly don't know of a single person who is going outside the officers right now
05:46 <@Wilpig_> oddball is considering
05:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> dagmar, Wilpig_ aren't...  me, not-larry and oddball are all  50/50 go/no-go
05:47 < juice2> lets all meat at notlarry's house
05:47 < juice2> meet
05:47 <@Wilpig_> I'll text anyone pictures those nights from where I'll be
05:47 <@Wilpig_> one night will be the tumblr costume party, another night will be the primus and the chocolate factory show
05:48 < aestetix_> tumblr costume party, aka dashcon?
05:48 <@Wilpig_> nope.  official company party
05:48 <@Wilpig_> openbar, costumes, music
05:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: how about I come up, and I'll just tell work its "an internship interview"
05:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
05:50 < juice2> btw I would be careful of any picture Wilpig_ says he will be sending
05:50 <@Wilpig_> haha.  probably could manage that, several of the parties have been +1
05:53 < juice2> Wilpig_, maybe you can get me cheap room and board?
05:54 <@Wilpig_> up here?  HA!
05:54 < juice2> in TN
05:54 <@Wilpig_> I gots nothing down there.  I can get you a room at the old days inn fairly cheap, I think
05:54 < juice2> hah
05:55 < juice2> what was her name?
05:55 <@Wilpig_> who?
05:55 < juice2> you know
05:55 < juice2> that Girl
05:56 <@Wilpig_> manager?  kitchen woman? my ex?
05:56 < juice2> steak n shake
05:56 <@Wilpig_> vanilla
05:56 < juice2> oh yeah that
05:56 < juice2> couldn't think of that
05:56 < juice2> lol
05:56 <@Wilpig_> that was the stripper name we assigned her
05:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> the hitman higher?
05:57 < aestetix_> juice2: did you ever get with vanilla?
05:57 <@Wilpig_> ^
05:57 < juice2> why would i even attempt?
05:57 <@Wilpig_> for the story
05:57 < aestetix_> I thought you had a thing for her
05:57 < juice2> that story would be terrible
05:57 < juice2> the oly thing I had for her was to get my dang food onthe table
05:59 < juice2> if only the Ihop HAD BEEN CLOSER
05:59 <@Wilpig_> juice2: that's your version of the story.  our version has more spice.
06:00 < juice2> strages, photbooth has more spice
06:00 < juice2> photobooth
06:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_ wanted her... until he found out she would hire a hitman for 300$ to kill ya ;) (was that the $ amount? )
06:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> and didn't she get off b/c her dad was abusing her? or something
06:01 <@Wilpig_> that was dawn not vanilla
06:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> ahh ok
06:01 < juice2> haha
06:01 <@Wilpig_> she's still in jail, still hasn't had a day in court.  that was over two years ago
06:01 <@Wilpig_> i'd still fuck her too
06:01 < aestetix_> I wonder if women in prison get laid
06:02 <@Wilpig_> I guess I should head down and do some of that work stuff
06:02 < aestetix_> lol
06:02 <@Wilpig_> I got two hours until I can go home
06:02 < juice2> I thought that was your home
06:03 <@Wilpig_> I'm at the DC tonight for a maintenance window
06:03 < aestetix_> wow
06:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> they won't let him put a hammock in the cold air channel
06:03 < aestetix_> the server I just booted up has 60 gigs of ram
06:03 < aestetix_> I don't think I've ever had that much before
06:03 < juice2> 60 ...
06:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats an odd #
06:03 < juice2> that's an odd number
06:03 < aestetix_> 64
06:03 < juice2> haha
06:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
06:03 < juice2> RangerZ|Laptop,
06:04 < aestetix_> why does that seem like a lot or a little to you
06:04 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: all these have 128.  :-/
06:04 < aestetix_> wow
06:04 < juice2> a little
06:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> not a power of 2
06:04 < aestetix_> so people get their porn and cat photos fast
06:04 < juice2> i've seen systems with 2tb
06:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> so 64, 128, 256, etc
06:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> my personal desktop supports up to 64
06:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> no 32*
06:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> but some support 64* now
06:06 < juice2> http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/proliant-servers/product-detail.html?oid=4142916#!tab=specs
06:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: HP ProLiant DL580 G7 Server (at www8.hp.com)
06:06 < juice2> Memory, maximum
06:06 < juice2>     2TB
06:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, thats not even counting specialty units , Wilpig_ has one of those for his porn alone
06:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> just so he can start streaming any video immediately that he wants
06:07 < aestetix_> juice2: what the hell do you use all that for
06:07 < juice2> I don't at my old joba  client had one of those
06:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: mysql, big data analytics, etc
06:08 < juice2> i don't think they had it maxed in ram
06:08 < juice2> I figure you keep it all in ram so if you get caught you just pwoer off
06:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> also large scale caching would be a decent usage
06:09 < aestetix_> it just seems like an insane amount to me
06:09 < juice2> yeah
06:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> ok MR S.Fran Network Engineer
06:09 < juice2> the most i usually see is 256GB
06:09 < aestetix_> keep in mind that most servers I work with are cloud based
06:10 < juice2> i see
06:10 < juice2> well I think I am going to watchsome netflix then bed
06:10 <@Wilpig_> you can check out that show i mentioned
06:10 <@Wilpig_> but it isn't on netflix
06:10 < juice2> what hsow?
06:11 <@Wilpig_> you're the worst
06:11 <@Wilpig_> it's new, made me laugh
06:11 < juice2> why would I be watching a romance comedy again?
06:12 < aestetix_> you know what show I started watching
06:12 < aestetix_> the west wing
06:12 < aestetix_> it's actually pretty good
06:12 <@Wilpig_> I haven't got a good reason. All I can say is it literally made me lol
06:12 < juice2> I been watching Hell on \Wheels and Graceland
06:12 <@Wilpig_> I am something liek two episodes away from finishing star trek: voyager again
06:13 < aestetix_> god I love ssds
06:13 < aestetix_> it makes working with half a terabyte of data so much easier
06:13 < juice2> me too
06:13 < juice2> it makes doing anything better
06:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> except defragging the SSD ;)
06:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> gotta make sure you do that regularly  , hehe
06:16 < aestetix_> uhhhh
06:16 < aestetix_> why would you defrag it
06:16 < aestetix_> Does it depend on the filesystem?
06:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> no
06:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> NEVER do that
06:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> SSDs have a max write limit
06:16 < aestetix_> ohhhhhh
06:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> i saw a post giving instructions on how to make windows do that... it was so well done too, it was kinda evil/wrong
06:17 < juice2> windows should fail to defrag a ssd unless they changed something
06:17 < juice2> should say it isn't needed
06:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> by default it says you don't need it
06:18 < juice2> and not actually run
06:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> but you can 'make' it do it
06:18 < aestetix_> what file systems does windows support?
06:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> the SSD controller will randomize where its writing the data anyways
06:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> NTFS thats it
06:18 < aestetix_> yuck
06:19 < aestetix_> can NTFS handle bigdata?
06:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> NTFS isn't a 'bad' FS, the problem is that there isn't a great driver for *nix
06:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah
06:19 < juice2> windows 2012 also has refs
06:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> XFS is much better from what I hear, the xbox file system
06:19 < aestetix_> xfs rpcls
06:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> and win 8 was 'suppose' to ahve it
06:19 < aestetix_> rocks
06:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> god damn.. i'm tired tonight
06:20 < aestetix_> hasn't windows been trying to do a windows file system?
06:20 < aestetix_> for like over 10 years?
06:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> XFS
06:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> it works well on the xbox
06:20 < juice2> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh848060%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
06:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Resilient file system (Windows) (at msdn.microsoft.com)
06:20 < aestetix_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS
06:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> but they have had a fucking hell of a time writing it into the standard kernel .... or something....
06:20 < aestetix_> that's what I thought you meant
06:21 < juice2> anyhow later
06:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> they have been kinda hush about it for a long time, so I don't know where they are on that
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07:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:32 <@Wilpig_> shhhh
07:41  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
08:01 <@CRasH180> morning
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08:11 <@opticron> RangerZ|Laptop, erm....the xbox did not come with XFS stock unless you're saying that you put XFS on YOUR xbox
08:11 <@opticron> the xbox came with xfat
08:12 <@opticron> *fatx
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08:44 < aestetix_> wow
08:44 < aestetix_> http://isitnormal.com/story/i-have-to-put-my-finger-up-my-anus-to-signal-the-sphincter-to-poop-33688/
08:45 < aestetix_> apparently this is a thing. lots of comments
09:10 <@Dickie> Some people wipe standing up
09:11 <@Dickie> This blows my mind
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10:15 <@Dolemite> All meetings should have cake.
10:15 <@Dolemite> Makes the boring less boring.
10:18 <@brimstone> even meetings about diabetes?
10:18 <@brimstone> #WhyIStayed There was cake at the meeting
10:19 <@Dolemite> brimstone: ALL meetings
10:21 <@Dagmar> THIS IS NEITHER WORKSAFE NOR COFFEE SAFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ZF_R_j0OY
10:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Loophole by Garfunkel and Oates - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:22  * Dolemite pours a cup of hot chocolate and pulls up the browser
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10:26 <@ignotus-sdf> Dagmar: depends on where you work.
10:35 <@Dagmar> Well, I figure the guffaws are going to distract co-workers.
10:36 <@Dagmar> I like how they pulled a Mary Had A at the very end
10:37 <@ignotus-sdf> No, around here it only encourages more bad behaviour. We just got finished with 10 minutes of Ben Stein doing roll call. First place I've been where Cards Against Humanity happens during the workday.
10:55 <@Dagmar> PhreakNIC: You've got questions - We've got awkward silence
11:04 <@oddball> I would have thought you'd go with "you've got questions.  That's... understandable."
11:04 <@Dagmar> "understandable" is debateable
11:04 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING
11:04 <@Dagmar> The complete silence is pretty hard to ignore
11:05  * shapr hugs Dagmar 
11:40 <@Dolemite> Well, in their minds they aren't being silent, because they're marketing to new groups.
11:41 <@Dolemite> What they fail to see or admit is that by only marketing to the new groups and leaving the original, core group in the dark, they are alienating it and making them feel unwelcome at the evennt.
11:41 <@Dolemite> event
11:41 <@ignotus-sdf> NASA, primarily, it appears.
11:42 <@Dolemite> So at that point one would have to wonder if PhreakNIC is even for the original group at all anymore
11:43 <@Dolemite> I know that goal is to branch out to new people, but should it be at the expense of those who sustained it for so long?  I'm not saying that is the intention, but it's certainly the impression.
11:43 <@Dagmar> Well said
11:44  * shapr sneaks up on klixa and applies A HUG
11:45 <@Dolemite> And that is what I said to Dru on the phone a couple of weeks ago (not those exact words, but fairly close), so it's not like he hasn't heard this
11:45  * shapr hugs Shadow404 for good measure
11:50 <@Dolemite> Ok, time to head out to work frome home for this webex...   gotta be there to get the kids after school.  Pamela is in training to be a substitute teacher, today.  Hopefully a much better one than NotLarry. ;)
11:54 < Warcop> WebEx - fun stuff
11:54 < Warcop> put a horse head on and turn on video
11:55 <@Mirage> Dolemite: is that even possible?
12:15 <@Wilpig_> http://rareminimum.com/category/prints
12:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Prints | Rare Minimum (at rareminimum.com)
12:15 <@Wilpig_> this is one of the artists that has several pieces in the tumblr office, apparently
12:30 <@Wilpig_> http://www.avclub.com/article/rocket-and-groot-make-complete-sense-calvin-and-ho-208982
12:32 <@Wilpig_> last one.  http://doctorwho.tumblr.com/post/97063183920
12:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: Official Doctor Who Tumblr (at doctorwho.tumblr.com)
12:40 <@ignotus-sdf> The new Doctor is growing on me.
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13:06 < frsilent> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioL7MRQvHM
13:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Apple Watch (Parody) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:09 <@ignotus-sdf> frsilent: that was righteous.
13:09 <@ignotus-sdf> All of the iCrap has gone nuts.
13:10 <@Mirage> Hrm..I missed this when they had the 50th anniv episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo
13:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Night of the Doctor: A Mini Episode - Doctor Who: The Day of the Doctor Prequel - BBC - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:48 <@Wilpig_> Mirage: I have that and a few others in that place where I put things
13:48 <@shapr> SHAZAM!
13:49 <@Mirage> Wilpig_: didn't your mother ever teach you not to put things there?
13:50 <@Mirage> Wilpig_: do you have the "Doctor Who: Shada" 6-ep cartoon series?
13:52 <@Wilpig_> no.  but give me a few and i'll see if I can track it down
13:53 <@Wilpig_> vhs only eh?  that might be hard to find
13:54 <@Wilpig_> hrmm. comments say it has audio sync problems though.  https://kickass.to/doctor-who-shada-animated-2003-webrip-divx-t2996270.html
13:55  * ignotus-sdf notes that no one reacted to shapr becoming Gomer Pyle.
13:55 <@shapr> citizen's arrest!
13:55 <@Wilpig_> downloadable in flash or real media...  wtf  http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/webcasts/shada/one/index.shtml
13:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: BBC- Doctor Who - Shada - Episode One (at www.bbc.co.uk)
13:55 <@Wilpig_> rm....
13:56 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: ever weirder, the town I live in is the hometown of Jim Nabors, and they have a shrine to him in the university library.
13:56 <@Mirage> Wilpig_: watching it on Youtube right now.
14:01 <@ignotus-sdf> shapr: cool! then you're only about a buck and a half away from me! How do you handle the rivalry, being in the middle?
14:01 <@ignotus-sdf> In other words, which "A" is your A?
14:02 <@shapr> um, none of them?
14:02 <@shapr> Wait, where are you then? Murfreesboro or something?
14:02 <@shapr> Je suis confuse!
14:03 <@ignotus-sdf> Ah. Jim Nabors is from Alabama. Between Birmingham and Auburn.
14:03 <@ignotus-sdf> I am just past Atlanta.
14:03 <@ignotus-sdf> 150 miles away.
14:03 <@shapr> Huh, UNA seems to think he's from Florence, AL
14:03 <@shapr> wikipedia says sylacauga
14:04 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: my university is confused
14:05 <@ignotus-sdf> It happens. Phil Niekro is supposed to be from my Dad's hometown, and they were about the same age, but he never heard of him until he went to the Braves.
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14:28 <@Wilpig_> someone should be careful when he's allowing himself to be documented in what could be described as physical assault.  https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10009308_10103143135682741_8914201422964071379_n.jpg?oh=4123b6100582ff0414be184c8e5c09bb&oe=548894F3
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15:36 <@Wilpig_> Dolemite: I'm digging through the cards that came with the bigger blacker box.  it has another trump card
15:37 <@Wilpig_> "two midgets shitting into a box"
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16:00 <@Mirage> Wilpig_: I'm sure that was staged and that no assault actually occured...I mean, we all _know_ that he would never actually prod someone
16:01 <@Wilpig_> Mirage: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6izbe3a132vbrll/2014-09-10%2015.21.46.jpg?dl=0
16:02 <@Mirage> Wilpig_: overkill
16:03 <@Wilpig_> it's in silver
16:04 <@Mirage> should have been in purple crushed velvet with gold trip
16:04 <@Mirage> er, trim
16:15 <@oddball> So... apparently a coworker of a friend of mine showed up to work with that game.
16:15 <@Wilpig_> sounds like a trip to H
16:15 <@Wilpig_> HR
16:15 <@oddball> I told him that he should have told her to put it back in her car before there was an HR incident.
16:15 <@oddball> He didn't quite understand until he played some this past weekend.
16:16 <@Wilpig_> I just showed our project manager chick my biggest, blackest dick
16:18 <@oddball> oh myyy.
16:19 <@Mirage> our Puppet contractor just spent ~10 minutes explaining to me the difference between . and * in regex.
16:20 <@Wilpig_> haha
16:20 < aestetix_> uh
16:20 < aestetix_> Mirage: have fun with that
16:21 <@Mirage> I got tired of it after 10 minutes, informed him that the format of regex depends largely on the implementation of regex in the specific application, given that not all systems use/honor the same regex.
16:21 <@oddball> That's ok... at an EFF track panel at Dragoncon, one of the panelists told me that there was no reason a company would want to traffic shape because of VOIP.
16:21 < aestetix_> you should ask him what the speed benefits are when it's compiled
16:22 <@Mirage> Then I proceeded to also point out to him that the puppet documentation blatantly states using * instead of .*
16:22 < aestetix_> Why was he explaining this to you?
16:22 <@Mirage> His answer was that the documentation must be wrong, then changed the subject
16:22 < aestetix_> ....
16:23 <@Mirage> because he was looking over a module that i'd written which used a regex match to determine if a piece of the module needed to run or not.
16:23 <@Bahhumbug> Find better contractors.
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16:23 < aestetix_> there is an easy way to find out if the documentation is wrong
16:23 < aestetix_> it's called testing it out
16:23 <@Mirage> Bahhumbug: a different group hired him...we just have to work with him
16:24 <@Bahhumbug> Can you set him on fire?
16:24 <@Mirage> he's in CA...it was a WebEx.  Otherwise he would have only gone on about it for less than 10 seconds before seeing the look on my face and stopping
16:24 <@Bahhumbug> Hah
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16:25 < aestetix_> north or south
16:26 <@Bahhumbug> Let's just assume socal.
16:28 < aestetix_> honestly at this point it doesn't make a difference
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16:40 <@Mirage> aestetix_: SF..Pleasanton
16:40 < aestetix_> ahhh got it
16:40 < aestetix_> yeah I get a lot of recruiter emails from pleasanton
16:40 < aestetix_> nobody wants to work there
16:42 <@Mirage> highly informative website: http://www.katello.org/
16:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Katello (at www.katello.org)
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17:35 <@Bahhumbug> Embrace the katello.  Love the katello.
17:35 <@Bahhumbug> It's the new version of satellite :)
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17:41 <@Dagmar> Yeeep.
17:41 <@Dagmar> Sooo much communication
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17:44 <@Wilpig_> I just liked the excuse
17:44 <@Dagmar> What excuse?
17:44 <@Wilpig_> dsl was down for 12 hours
17:45 <@Dagmar> Who said this where?
17:45 <@Wilpig_> dru on the phreaknic google group
17:46 <@Dagmar> I'm in that group
17:46 <@Dagmar> He's gotta be kidding
17:46 <@Dagmar> There's been no traffic there since fucking April
17:46 <@Wilpig_> there's been a little.  nothing of significance
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17:47 <@Dagmar> Ah I see.  He's sorry for taking 12 hours to reply to the google group post, doesn't give a fuck about the mailing list
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17:48 <@Wilpig_> yup.  but that doesn't matter.  i'm just amused by needing an excuse
17:48 <@Dagmar> I looked at the Google Group before I started posting to the mailing list
17:48 <@Dagmar> Nothing had been said there since April 27th
17:49 <@Dagmar> The last week of April there were just multiple people asking "Where's the website?" and "Is PhreakNIC still happening?"
17:50 <@Bahhumbug> Some are still asking those questions.
17:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> Mirage: want me to write a regular expression program that swaps . with + and * with ^ ? lol
17:51 <@Bahhumbug> So... the hotel is out of cheap rooms?
17:51 <@Bahhumbug> How does that work?
17:51 <@Dagmar> Badly, I'd think
17:51 <@Bahhumbug> Something is broken here.
17:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: their website says they are out, I called personally last night and they said they had 2 rooms left
17:51 <@Dagmar> ...but they're supposed to still be avialable if you massage the res site properly
17:51 <@Dagmar> Dropdowns must be clicked
17:51 <@Bahhumbug> 2 rooms is still out.
17:52 <@Bahhumbug> You're still weeks out, room availability for the event should still be a thing.
17:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> but here is my thing, I don't know if she meant 2 'different types' of room, or 2 # of rooms
17:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> and i'm too lazy to call back
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17:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> I just realized that now actually
17:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> but either way.... it shouldn't be the way it is
17:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> and people coming to this chat shouldn't be told 'well...sorry... no one here to help you'
18:18 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Technically when * is used as a wildcard, you're looking at globmatches, not regexps
18:18 <@Dagmar> A responsible adult such as that guy doing contracting should know the difference
18:18 <@Dagmar> ...and fuck doing any of it under tcl
18:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> so I'm reading a story where people get sucked into a 20 year old fantasy game, and I was just thinking.. this nov. WoW has been out 10 years... so in another 10 years... all the WoW characters getting sucked into WoW as their character
18:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: hope you don't end up as an orc hunter, lol... but what would really suck... undead...
18:45 <@Dagmar> This is why I play Alliance.
18:45 <@Dagmar> Also... not a filthy animal.
18:50 < aestetix_> ok I have a new plan
18:51 < aestetix_> I'm gonna try to get someone to do a monty python sketch when they speak in front of city council
18:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: why not just fucking run for the bitch
18:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> THEN see how much you appreciate antics like that
18:58 < aestetix_> haha
18:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> when you actually want to get work done
18:58 < aestetix_> Because I'm a citizen, not a politician
18:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> then get laws passed to require public financing of campaigns
18:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> not only would it stick it to current politicians, its good policy
18:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
18:59 < aestetix_> but it's not funny
19:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> do it as a monty python skit, showing how stupid it is to legally bribe politicians
19:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
19:00 < aestetix_> well
19:00 < aestetix_> in this case it's about the oakland dac
19:01 < aestetix_> so it would be the dead privacy sketch
19:02 <@Dagmar> Hehe
19:02 <@Dagmar> https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/509412628192448512
19:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: Matthew Inman on Twitter: "u guys I got this incredible screensaver on my new #applewatch http://t.co/kgdrH6Pjqj" (at twitter.com)
19:07 <@Dagmar> Apparently, some people are also finding that the multicolored apple spinner does a very poor job of telling the time.
19:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> they already have them?
19:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> did they go on sale yesterday in stores too?
19:11 <@Dagmar> like I give a shit about Apple products
19:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> i like how you can "share your heartbeat with someone else with the same watch" wtf...
19:21 <@Dagmar> I have an idea
19:21 <@Dagmar> HAve the watch deliver mild electric shocks to try to synchronize the two heartbeats.
19:21 <@Dagmar> Nothing could go wrong.
19:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> if that were the case, I'd purposely drink 4 energy drinks if crazypants was wearing the other watch
19:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh ....lookie... she's just getting shocked over and over
19:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
19:30 < aestetix_> https://www.edx.org/course/columbiax/columbiax-hist1-1x-civil-war-2241#.VAdxDrxdX-Q
19:34 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5DD220D6A1282057&feature=plcp
19:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> 22hrs of video
19:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> gtfo
19:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
19:47 <@Dagmar> Oh look.
19:47 <@Dagmar> Section 11 doesn't say "It was all about slavery"
19:47 <@Dagmar> Of course, since it's a white man teaching, we know he's biased
19:49 <@Dagmar> (watch it all)
19:54 <@Shadow404> of coruse
19:55 <@Wilpig_> someone talk me out of this.  http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22937451
19:56 <@Dagmar> The rewviews say it smells like feet
19:58 <@brimstone> The reviews say you smell like feet
19:58 <@Wilpig_> you guys aren't very convincing
19:58 <@Dagmar> Also, that's going to cot you $140/month.
19:58 <@Dagmar> er cost
19:58 <@Dagmar> Rather inescapably
19:58 <@brimstone> why synology?
19:59 <@brimstone> isn't that the one that got hacked recently?
19:59 <@Dagmar> All of that has a three year warrant
19:59 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Yep
19:59 <@Dagmar> er warranty
19:59 <@brimstone> also, backblaze isn't using 4TB drives yet
19:59 <@brimstone> we are, but don't do what we do
19:59 <@Dagmar> ...which means the manufacturer basically expects them to have a reasonable chance of failing after three years.
19:59 <@Wilpig_> I could do it backblaze but the motherboard and case cost about as much as the synology does
19:59 <@Dagmar> So as per usual, plan on the hardware only being good for three years.
20:00 <@Dagmar> $140/month is a bit much to spend on disk when with a little homebrew action you can get that price down MUCH lower
20:00 <@Wilpig_> I priced out motherboards and controllers that would support that many disks and it wasn't much cheaper
20:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: you shouldn't buy that b/c it will be too nice for you, you don't deserve nice things, nor a place to collect media for me to later get
20:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> (reverse psychology at its best) ;)
20:01 <@Dagmar> How precisely do you need thirty-somthing terabytes of storage at home?
20:01 <@Dagmar> There just can't be that much midget porn.
20:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: he wants it in each of 1080p and 720p, and now 1440p and 4k
20:01 <@Wilpig_> Dagmar: http://blueboy.wilpig.org/phpsysinfo/
20:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: phpSysInfo - Redirection (at blueboy.wilpig.org)
20:01 <@Wilpig_> see /media and /media2
20:02 <@Dagmar> See... I believe in making decisions about what level of storage to use
20:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> he's doing his part incase Dr. Who ever gets deleted again
20:02 <@Dagmar> I've got a few terabytes of recordings I know I don't need ready access to all the time.
20:02 <@Dagmar> Those went onto DVDs
20:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> they recovered a couple eps from people just recording off TV, lol
20:03 <@Wilpig_> meh.  I kinda like it all semi-accessible cause it's all indexed and ready to use via plex
20:03 <@Dagmar> I'm somewhat seriously considering a project of making a freaking robot for blueray
20:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig_: honestly... I'd probably hold off on buying that, and instead look into a distributed system
20:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> where NAS are indexed
20:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats one of my ideas for a research project actually
20:04 < notfie--> cinemageddon?
20:04 <@Dagmar> Yeah but which is more valuable... $140 of reruns each month, or $140 of stripper each month
20:04 <@Wilpig_> reruns?
20:05 <@Dagmar> o.O
20:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> why pay for fucking blue ball
20:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
20:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> well... sorry
20:05 <@Dagmar> Because sometimes art is more important
20:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> non-fucking blue ball* -_-
20:08 <@Dagmar> I really like Dr. Who but if my choice is Dr. Who rereuns or a few rather athletic girls doing pole gymnastics, well... I've already seen the Dr. Who episodes.
20:10 <@Dagmar> WRT to the "ogling" of women, if you're faced with a choice between showgirls or pole dancers, and your deciding factor is "more nudity, please" you're probably doin' it wrong
20:11 < aestetix_> "a few rather athletic girls doing pole gymnastics" <-- will this be at phreaknic?
20:11 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: Should I care if it is or not?
20:12 <@Dagmar> For one thing, a pole requires some structural planning
20:12 <@Dagmar> I'm thinking a repurposed set of raised floor tiles would be an easier thing to engineer and deploy
20:13 <@Dagmar> However, I actually have people I can go ask about that
20:13 <@Dagmar> (about the pole, not the tiles)
20:14 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: This is the point of desensitization to naked... So ya don't wind up being obsessed with "blue balls".
20:14 <@Dagmar> One of the side things The Limit was doing was actually pole dancing aerobics
20:14 <@Dagmar> It does actually happen.
20:15 <@Dagmar> ...and yes, I'm aware there's all kinds of reasons to possibly be concerned about _not_ being obsessed with naked women.
20:15 <@Dagmar> Key word being "possibly"
20:16 <@Dagmar> If you want to get worried, go watch what happens with women and male strippers
20:16 <@Dagmar> It'll be an eye-opener for you
20:18 <@Dagmar> I want costumes, I want pageantry, and astonishingly, I want to be able to have a conversation with them later that doesn't involve the merits of peach-scented body oils.
20:18 <@Dagmar> A hot redhead is one thing.  A hot redhead who can discuss politics intelligently... GIMME
20:18 <@Wilpig_> wait a damn minute here, are you saying strippers have minds and thoughts?
20:19 <@Dagmar> Yeah I know it's a crazy idea, but some of them do
20:19 <@Dagmar> I can thank Randy for helping me learn to see past the titties
20:19 <@Dagmar> Girls who are pretty and _stupid_ are a dime a dozen
20:19 <@Wilpig_> past the titties... this doesn't sound like a good thing.  although it worked out well for superman
20:19 <@Dagmar> Soo many websites
20:19 <@Dagmar> lol
20:21 <@Dagmar> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/call-me-maybe-introducing-free-voice.html
20:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Official Google Blog: Call me maybe? Introducing free voice calls from Hangouts (at googleblog.blogspot.com)
20:22 <@Wilpig_> hrmm. I thought they were already free.
20:22 <@Wilpig_> maybe cause I have a google voice number ?
20:23 <@Dagmar> Yeah
20:23 <@Dagmar> Now they've added an actual dialer to the app
20:23 <@Dagmar> ...and you can call "regular" numbers without complication.
20:23 <@Wilpig_> it had it before you just had to jump through a few hoops
20:23 <@Wilpig_> you had to invite an external person to a hangout, then dial their number
20:24 <@Wilpig_> removing that invite step will be nice
20:24 <@Dagmar> This also makes it easier to unify calling from the desktop or the phone interchangeably
20:24 <@Dagmar> If you did the Voice integration, your calls have probably been ringing to your desktop first for awhile now
20:25 <@Wilpig_> it's a tossup which rings first, phone or pc
20:25 <@Dagmar> For me if I've got Gmail open in a browser or in some way active, my desktop always rings first
20:26 <@Dagmar> This is why I'm fond of the availability of nearly disposable bluetooth earpieces
20:26 <@Dagmar> Pair one to your desk and you can actually answer the call by picking up the earpiece
20:26 <@Wilpig_> i've got two of these lg headsets
20:26 <@Dagmar> That's how I was answering voice calls that would go through Exchange at work
20:26 <@Wilpig_> hbs730 or something like that
20:27 <@Dagmar> I had a little Motorola earpiece sitting in it's charger base
20:27 <@Dagmar> It worked just like picking up a reciever
20:27 <@Dagmar> They had the integration working pretty well, because I didnt' have to actually click anything
20:28 <@Dagmar> The moment the earpiece lit up, the connection would complete
20:28 <@Dagmar> I'm hoping the same thing will work with G+V
20:28 <@Wilpig_> very likely
20:31 < aestetix_> so
20:31 < aestetix_> what do you guys think of the Apple Watch
20:31 < aestetix_> I'm personally far more interested in Apple Pay
20:31 <@Wilpig_> I wish the android nfc would have gained more traction by now
20:31 < aestetix_> well what I think apple did that's going to make it successful
20:32 <@Dagmar> Yep
20:32 <@Wilpig_> I think I can pay with touching my phone at burger king and maybe the path train
20:32 < aestetix_> they have already reached out to all the stores and asked for it
20:32 <@Dagmar> The main holdup to adoption thus far has been that not every phone has that functionality
20:32 <@Dagmar> Now 16% more of the market can get it
20:32 < aestetix_> the brilliant move
20:32 <@Dagmar> 16 whole percent!
20:32 < aestetix_> is taht if you only have an iphone 5s, you can still use the watch with it and get the payment thing
20:32 <@Wilpig_> are they using nfc or are they doing something completely different?
20:32 <@Dagmar> They're actually putting NFC in their new phone
20:32 < aestetix_> for the watch?
20:33 <@Wilpig_> that's good.  that will be good for everyone
20:33 <@Wilpig_> one standard for all devices means stores will more readily adopt
20:33 < aestetix_> I'm not objectivifying the stuff so much as marvelling at their strategy
20:33 <@Dagmar> Now if we can just get those NFC Ring fuckers to bring back the all-black model
20:36 <@Dagmar> LOL
20:36 <@Dagmar> SEO Overkill: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%2Fsearch
20:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: site:http://www.google.com//search - Google Search (at www.google.com)
20:36 <@Dagmar> Someone just got caught
20:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0259/9785/products/nfcring-a-x4_394a1fdd-4362-460d-a08b-25789e5da9ba_1024x1024.jpg?v=1394622504 the black one on the left?
20:36 <@Dagmar> Yeah
20:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> its 'for pre-order sale' but it doesn't let you pick 'which one' you are buying
20:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
20:37 <@Dagmar> At the moment, this is as close as you can get http://store.nfcring.com/products/signature
20:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Signature NFC Ring (at store.nfcring.com)
20:37 <@Dagmar> Black band with titanium, and one side still has the NFC circuitry visible
20:37 <@Dagmar> I want solid, all black
20:38 <@Dagmar> If you go to Alibaba or DealExtreme the Asians will sell you a single token ring, that comes in a possible three sizes
20:38 <@Dagmar> None of which fit my finger
20:39 <@Dagmar> Actulaly I can't even find any solid black ones on DX anymore
20:39 <@Dagmar> The point of having _two_ is that it clusterfucks ranged attacks
20:40 <@Dagmar> Apparently it's hard enough picking them up at a distance, the added issue of being unable to separate the two signals makes it a giant motherfucker
20:41 <@Dagmar> However, for a dollar freakin seventy, I think I might order one of these http://www.aliexpress.com/item/hot-selling-fashion-jewelry-The-Lord-of-the-Rings-for-men/1964099801.html?s=p
20:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: hot selling fashion jewelry The Lord of the Rings for men Plating 18K gold stainless steel ring for mens vintage titanium ring-in Rings from Jewelry on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group (at www.aliexpress.com)
20:42 <@Wilpig_> november 10th I need to remember to log into etrade and up my yahoo stock
20:44 <@Shadow404> love aliexpress
20:44 <@Shadow404> slow shipping, but awesome deals
20:48 < aestetix_> THe more I think about the apple watch
20:49 < aestetix_> I can see a lot of people getting it
20:49 < aestetix_> The fact that it can integrate with your calendar and send you a bump notice when a meeting is happening is huge
20:57 <@Wilpig_> aestetix_: my phone does that now
21:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: thats not really that new
21:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats one of the first features smart phones had
21:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> same with nfc payment confirmation, nothing new there, they are just good at making people think it is
21:20 <@Dagmar> Yep
21:20 <@Dagmar> Apple and Microsoft are both notorious for being late to a party and then acting as if they tech they're deploying wasn't available from other major vendors four years ago
21:21 <@Dagmar> ...and hell, NFC payments are basically just another form of magstripe as far as I know
21:22 <@Dagmar> However, unlike a magstripe, it's at least forward compatible with more cryptographically-secure challenge-response methods.
21:23 <@Dagmar> So, in 2036 with the US finally requires _chipped cards_, the phones of today will be ready
21:27 <@Wilpig_> what a spineless fuck 
21:27 <@Wilpig_> I just got a call from dolemite because dru is demanding i turn over the domains to him, he wants to talk to a lawyer to draw up whatever to take all of the se2600, nashville2600, phreaknic domains ebcause they're afraid i'm going to do something
21:28 <@Wilpig_> i'm ready to call dru directly and call him a spineless fuck
21:28 <@Dagmar> I thought he already had auth for those
21:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> don't give him se2600
21:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> first of all
21:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> and secondly, what Dagmar said
21:29 <@Dagmar> I see they're registered to Wilbur still
21:29 <@Dagmar> Sure, dump phreaknic and nashville2600 on him
21:30 <@Dagmar> Chalk it up to one more stupidly time-wasteful thing he's "doing" for the organization.
21:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> we'll only lose them a 2nd time when he decides to quit again
21:30 <@Dagmar> Make him give a rational justification for SE2600, since, you know... they're not allowed to come in here for some reason.
21:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> corydon founded the channel I think will be their answer
21:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> not that _that_ makes that much of a difference
21:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> but ehh
21:31 <@Wilpig_> he's not.  he'll get nashville2600 and phrekanic.  period
21:31 <@Wilpig_> Dagmar: I apparently never setup a login name for them
21:31 <@Dagmar> A shame he wasn't the one maintaining the DNS and se2600.org site then isn't it
21:31 <@Wilpig_> I made them all owned by the nonprofit but never made a login
21:32 <@Dagmar> Oh then dump them all in his lap and just document it
21:32 <@Wilpig_> about to tell them to cut me a check for all the domain renewals for the last three years since I paid them all out of my pocket
21:33 <@Wilpig_> Dagmar: he's not getting se2600.  it isn't part of nashville 2600
21:33 <@Dagmar> That seems like it would be "arguable" later
21:33 <@Wilpig_> phreaknic and nashville2600 are.  nothing else
21:33 <@Dagmar> wilpig: I would agree
21:33 <@Dagmar> I see nothing PhreakNIC-centric on se2600.org aside from a link to the con
21:34 <@oddball> Seriously?  He's wanting to get lawyers involved in this shit?
21:34 <@Dagmar> 'cuz he's listening to Amber's ramblings, I suspect
21:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> exactly ^
21:35 <@oddball> I'd say that right there is reason for the board to get involved.
21:35 <@Dagmar> Making demands of someone without actually contacting them, even informally, about them is bullshit
21:35 <@Dagmar> As much as I don't like it, I don't think any of this is going to survive the next voting
21:35 <@Dagmar> I intend to make certain my dues are paid at the next meeting.
21:36 <@Dagmar> ...rather than not worrying about it until PhreakNIC
21:36 <@Dagmar> They might already be paid.  I never know.
21:36 <@Dagmar> I know I've had people give me $20 back a couple of times now because I paid twice
21:36 <@Dagmar> That's how little the $20 concerns me
21:37 <@oddball> yeah... I honestly don't remember if I paid this year or not.
21:37 <@Dagmar> It never actually matters much until PN comes around, and that's only because it causes confusion for whoever's doing hte bookkeeping
21:37 <@Wilpig_> Dagmar: that is what I said to dolemite and he agreed that these people don't know how to act and they shouldn't be trying to run things
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21:38 <@Dagmar> I'm sure the way he's phrasing is it "Wilpig is hanging onto the registrations and hasn't turned them over yet"
21:38 <@Dagmar> ...which is demonstratably bullshit without an actual _request_
21:38 <@Dagmar> We're not fucking psychics.
21:38 <@Dagmar> Ain't none of us hard to freaking contact
21:38 <@Dagmar> Just don't let him draw you into the bullshit
21:38 <@Wilpig_> my complaint is dru apparently went ot dementia about the domains as well as dolemite
21:39 <@Wilpig_> fully well knowing that I was in control of them and never once contacted me
21:39 <@Dagmar> Don't give him even a single reason to declare you're being uncooperative (aside from asking for a justification before forking over se2600.org)
21:39 <@Dagmar> If he wants to raise a stink later, don't worry... We'll call him out on the not actually asking for things.
21:40 <@Dagmar> Just like I called him out on "I use the mailing list all the time"
21:41 <@Wilpig_> Dagmar: when I took control of se2600 I said "dru will never again have these because he failed to pay for them on time after we gave him a fucking check for them"
21:43 <@Dagmar> They have an arguable point about all but se2600.org, so I don't really blame you
21:43 <@Wilpig_> you remember when we had to pay godaddy a couple hundred dollars to get them back cause godaddy wouldn't take our money
21:43 <@Dagmar> or rather, but I don't really blame you
21:43 <@Dagmar> But if he's going to throw a tantrum about it, give him the other two
21:43 <@Wilpig_> he doesn't have grounds for it.  with the way he's acting fuck him.
21:43 <@Shadow404> speaking of, http://404.se2600.org/cgi-bin/meetings.pl
21:44 <@Dagmar> I don't think he can make the argument about SE2600 since it's not the org or the con and can be said does _not_ represent anything but the IRC channel
21:44 <@GateKeeper> Title: 404 Connections404 Meetings (at 404.se2600.org)
21:44 <@Shadow404> where, "joe muggs" no longer exist
21:44 <@Shadow404> they tore down the whole building
21:44 <@Wilpig_> Dagmar: it's also the email lists
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22:20 <@Dagmar> HAHAHAHAHA
22:20 <@Dagmar> https://plus.google.com/112229419791678868031/posts/A8FANtCtYBN?pid=6057431163903149826&oid=110677274294554982279
22:20  * Dagmar is in tears
22:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> HAHAHA
22:23 <@Wilpig_> hehe that video that was posted earlier made the same joke
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22:54 <@Dagmar> Oh wow.  InternetAristocrat put up a _two hour long video_?
22:54 <@Dagmar> Hell I'm going to need to buy some popcorn before I watch that
23:09 <@Dagmar> lol Lindsey went a'Ingressing over by CloverBottom and was wondering about all the police vehicles and so forth in the area
23:09 <@Dagmar> I'm like, "Dear, that's juvie, police training, and a special needs prison over there"
23:13 <@Wilpig_> lol
23:13 <@Wilpig_> night y'all
23:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2TtfCR904 NFL caught... ohh this is going to hurt...
23:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: PROOF The NFL Saw Ray Rice Footage MONTHS Before TMZ Release - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
23:16 <@Dagmar> Yeah they were real quick to come back and say "Oh we asked the police for all the footage, but we never saw _that_ footage"
23:16 <@Dagmar> I figured it would only be a matter of time before the police said "O RLY?"
23:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> Tim Woo lost in NY, sadly
23:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> that would have been interesting, since he literally _coined_ "net neutrality" , etc
23:22 <@Dagmar> Oh well.
23:22 <@Dagmar> they can always rebuild NYC I suppose
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