--- Log opened Thu Sep 04 00:00:39 2014 00:03 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 00:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 00:23 <@Dagmar> *VERY* irritating 00:23 <@Dagmar> The damn thing still won't work right 00:25 < aestetix_> So something I just realized. 00:25 < aestetix_> Reading an article about D&D 00:25 < aestetix_> The whole saga of LoTR, fantasy novels, etc 00:26 < aestetix_> It's an effort to inject mythology into a culture that has abandoned mythology 00:26 <@Dagmar> I thought you were about to say something about Gamer Girls Magazine's editor/oneguy painting a giant target on his forehead 00:26 < aestetix_> lol 00:27 < aestetix_> I didn't really undersatnd D&D before, but now it makes a lot more sense. 00:27 < aestetix_> Crafting characters in this and stuff like Warcraft is our version of painting a portrait of Zeus and Minerva 00:33 <@northrup> RangerZ|Laptop: 32 MB of RAM, that should be enough to last anyone, right? 00:34 <@northrup> ... oh wait, that was 640k.... 01:30 < RangerZ> northrup: and inside the CPU itself, it still uses that figured for some cache line mathemetics 01:30 < RangerZ> so "technically" its still true... 01:31 < RangerZ> no... not really 01:31 < RangerZ> but yeah... that Gamer Girls Asshat is not in a good position right now 01:31 < RangerZ> "The Internet" does not like false DMCA takedown notices 01:32 < RangerZ> the problem with youtube is that it if you even GET 3 claims, your entire channel is shut down 01:32 < RangerZ> whether or not they are vlid 01:33 < RangerZ> valid*, and the only way to get them removed is to file counter claim (which takes up to 30 days) or to win a court case if they take it to court 01:39 < aestetix_> http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/09/03/charges-minn-man-ejaculated-in-co-workers-coffee/ 01:39 <@SuMo_D> so this is pretty awesome http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/09/female-viking-warriors-proof-swords 01:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Better Identification of Viking Corpses Reveals: Half of the Warriors Were Female | Tor.com (at www.tor.com) 01:40 < aestetix_> not surprising 01:40 < aestetix_> the whole "women is weak" thing is a northern european thing 01:41 < aestetix_> Wilpig_: found another picture of your gf: http://i.imgur.com/dlScaTT.gif 01:42 < aestetix_> nsfw if that wasn't obvious 02:25 < RangerZ> aestetix_: vikings were from northern europe 02:25 < RangerZ> they fucking settled dublin 02:26 < RangerZ> (as an outpost to raid the rest of the isles from) 02:27 < RangerZ> http://www.not-just-european-cruises.com/images/viking-expansion-map.jpg << google image result, but looks accurate from what I remember(and more along turkey that I wasn't aware of) 02:35 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12 < aestetix_> man 03:12 < aestetix_> at some point i should collect the slides for all the nym talks I've given and put them online 03:32 < aestetix_> hmmm 03:32 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/lXzCxf7.png 03:33 < aestetix_> that looks shopped 04:02 < RangerZ> "Congratulations @Xbox_JP for the great #XboxOne launch in japan. Rooms were filled with Xbox fans. #XboxJP #Xbox " 04:03 < RangerZ> https://twitter.com/PNF4LYFEsMom/status/507381131218796544 04:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: Tim Dogs Mother on Twitter: Congratulations @Xbox_JP for the great #XboxOne launch in japan. Rooms were filled with Xbox fans. #XboxJP #Xbox http://t.co/7lIZZcCTne (at twitter.com) 04:08 < RangerZ> because...... "Tokyo (AFP) - The Japanese launch of Microsoft's Xbox One fell flat on Thursday, with journalists covering the debut far outnumbering buyers." 04:14 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> also .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQk5YqjO0E 04:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: I am NOT A bigot. Are You? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 04:28 < aestetix_> fucking hell 04:28 < aestetix_> home depot got hacked 04:29 <@Bahhumbug> Majorly hacked. 04:29 <@Bahhumbug> I am less than pleased by this as I shop there. 04:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> yep 04:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> so apparently ....this... is a thing http://www.gamesreviews.com/news/09/journalists-ignore-gamergate-notyourshield-peril/ 04:31 < aestetix_> Why does this keep happening. 04:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> the "SJW" crowd is getting blow back from calling all "gamers" as haters 04:31 < aestetix_> How many times does this need to happen for congress to pass a law giving strong protections to data 04:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: there is now 04:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> but its not worth it 04:31 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: what? 04:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> there are 'strong' laws, but they only have $ penalties 04:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> and its cheaper to now have good security 04:32 < aestetix_> I think we should have HIPAA level protection for all data 04:33 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: how "majorly"? 04:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> I can't remember if it is the banks themselves or the bank's insurance... but one of them... is who runs the "fraud detection" and the "identity protection" services that the banks "pay" when your info is stolen 04:33 <@Bahhumbug> May through this month allegedly. 04:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> and now Home Depot will have to pay 04:34 < aestetix_> You mean they *were* hacked and didn't know it? 04:34 <@Bahhumbug> Hi. Target. 04:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> another POS (point of sale) trojan? 04:34 <@Bahhumbug> None of this is new. 04:34 < aestetix_> And so for the last X months, all their data has been funneled along? 04:34 <@Bahhumbug> And they believe it's the same people that got Target. 04:36 * RangerZ|Laptop ughs 04:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> just wait.... 04:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> when chip & pin arrives in ...what 2 years.... the burden of proof will be on the card holder 04:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> so if a big company doesn't come out and say they were hacked.... then there is nothing you can do 04:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> unless you spend WAY too much time fighting it 04:41 < aestetix_> you know 04:42 < aestetix_> the chip and pin works quite well in europe 04:42 < aestetix_> although it caused me some issues in amsterdam, as it took a while to find an atm that supported my card 04:43 < aestetix_> oh wow RangerZ|Laptop I'm readin that url you linked 04:43 < aestetix_> do these people have nothing in their lives? 04:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> so I haven't been following it, but apparently the major gaming sites have been calling "gamers" basically every nasty word you can think up that can insult cis white males 04:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> and since they have done that, their traffic has fucking plummeted 04:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwkRKp_CMAAT6Qz.png:large 04:46 < aestetix_> something something bite the hand that feeds you 04:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much 04:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> mind you... I actually agree that most "athiests" online are just purposely troll baiting SJW/etc "feminists" 04:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> its how they get hits, and views, etc 04:47 < aestetix_> what gaming sites 04:48 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/09/notyourshield-hashtag-proves-more-than-just-straight-white-males-are-gamers/ 04:48 < RangerZ|Laptop> kotaku, gamasutra, ars technica, others 04:50 <@Dagmar> loool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbQk5YqjO0E 04:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: I am NOT A bigot. Are You? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 04:50 < aestetix_> I guess they have never heard of a "straw man" 04:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> yep 04:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: just linked it, and hell if I knew this shit was still going on 04:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> I saw the "end of gamers" stuff, and kinda just ignored it 04:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> I didn't realize it was more than just one article, etc 04:53 <@Bahhumbug> More misspent energy. 04:54 <@Bahhumbug> Meanwhile, Putin is treatening nuclear war; people are still dying from the largest Ebola outbreak in history, kids are still starving. 04:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> I dunno, transparency in journalism , even game journalism, isn't a _bad_ thing, and it has the potential to possibly draw attention to failures in journalism 04:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> which would help a lot right now 04:55 < aestetix_> in order to have transparency in journalism, you must first have journalism 04:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> GE, one of the largest military contractors still owns 49% of NBC/MSNBC/etc 04:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> and the other 51% is fucking comcastic 04:59 <@Bahhumbug> There is no longer "journalism" in this country. And, nothing personal against anyone identifying with the "gamers" but, really... gamers? 04:59 <@Bahhumbug> This is all a complete bullshit waste of time and energy and this mis-placed indignation is just a joke. 04:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> the absurdity of it is what makes is so much more striking 05:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> "wait... I'm a woman hater ... b/c I play video games... wait ... WTF Mate? 05:00 <@Bahhumbug> Who the fuck cares? 05:00 <@Bahhumbug> Stop caring. 05:00 <@Bahhumbug> No one else really does. 05:00 <@Bahhumbug> Real life doesn't give a shit about some slut sleeping around. 05:01 <@Bahhumbug> Real life doesn't care about some pimple-faced idiot living in mommy's basement that has his panties in a bunch. 05:01 <@Dagmar> No. 05:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh I agree, but I think its simplistic to say that you can't be concerned about multiple topics at once, etc 05:01 <@Dagmar> The "stop caring" approach is how these fuckwits have risen to power. 05:01 <@Bahhumbug> There is no "power". 05:01 <@Dagmar> It's time to tell these little shits to shut the fuck up with force 05:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> also, I don't have ANY influence upon putin/russia, but I DO have influence in some video game development circles 05:02 <@Bahhumbug> Wow. 05:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> both as a consumer, but also as someone who knows devs personally 05:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats just me, but if you think about the target audience of this topic, then its probably the same for them, maybe they don't know anyone in the industry at all, or perhaps they do, either way, if someone takes an hour and complains about an injustice (even a minor one) instead of playing a video game, or watching TV.... I'd say that is a net gain for society 05:04 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: the sad part is that the same kind of archetypes that are causing this idiocy in the gaming world are also writing articles for CNN 05:05 <@Bahhumbug> Hardly. Their whining doesn't do a damned bit of good. And again... gamers. 05:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> gamers > moviegoers 05:05 <@Bahhumbug> Go complain about injustices that actually fucking matter. 05:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> more money is spent on games than movies 05:05 <@Bahhumbug> And on feeding the homeless. 05:06 <@Bahhumbug> So again, all this indignation? Go put it somewhere that's actually important. 05:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'd agree with you, if it wasn't the media they were trying to fix, and even if it IS gaming media, fixing the media IS important 05:06 <@Bahhumbug> "gaming" 05:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> 4th estate needs to stand up to the other 3 05:07 * Bahhumbug shrugs 05:07 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps it's my age showing, but I look at this as a complete farce. 05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats fine, and I'm not expecting anything major, but I can be hopeful 05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> and at this point 05:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> even fucking MINOR improvements, would be good 05:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> we're in a world where 'major' is the enemy of 'minor' improvements, but I'd take 1000 minor improvements to our education or media, or elections 05:09 <@Bahhumbug> Uh-huh. Let me know how the people in the cardboard boxes under the interstate overpasses this winter feel about some irrelevant "improvement" in gaming media" that doesn't put them in shelters. 05:10 <@Bahhumbug> I respect your wishes to see improvement. 05:10 <@Bahhumbug> I just think it's greatly missplaced. 05:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> Honestly this discussion of it is more energy than I'll put into the issue at all, but Just like how I know about the Dem. in Kansas dropping out of the senate race, and the declaration that NATO would accept Ukraine, and that Putin said he "just thought up a peace deal with Ukraine...", _knowing_ about these stories alone is really all most of us can do at this point 05:13 <@Dagmar> I think I'm actually going to have to start "following" the InternetAristocrat 05:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, I did, lol 05:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/08/stardocks-ceo-calls-out-kotaku-for-being-trolls-games-media-as-toxic/ 05:15 <@Dagmar> Yeep 05:15 <@Dagmar> He has an incredible number of valid points 05:16 <@Dagmar> That this has been going on for two weeks is insane 05:16 <@Dagmar> A warning sign you should be able to see from the moon 05:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... I'm kinda curious how this will all play out 06:05 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 06:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 07:04 <@Dagmar> LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0USsMKUFd4c 07:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Tumblrisms: Cultural Appropriation - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 07:09 <@Dagmar> His whole tumblrisms thing is awesomesauce 07:17 <@Dagmar> HAHAH http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/heres-a-big-billboard-that-says-dick-in-downtown-chicag-1630274958 07:17 <@Dagmar> KERNING IS IMPORTANT 07:21 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, that's about 3 blocks from where I used to work; I used to walk under the metra overpass there daily getting high at lunch. 07:36 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:38 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:47 -!- kive_ [sid19953@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pfxbajpqqkvdsvct] has joined #se2600 07:50 -!- opticron_ [~opticron@75.76.148.219] has joined #se2600 07:50 <@Dagmar> Morning! 07:50 -!- pdiz_ [~diz@c-98-211-17-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:50 <@Dolemite> WTF? Am I in bizarro world? Oh, wait, it's more likely that Dagmar just hasn't gone to bed, yet. 07:50 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.148.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:51 -!- kive [sid19953@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dedwclvkocwrmlah] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:51 -!- pdiz [~diz@c-98-211-17-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:51 -!- kive_ is now known as kive 08:07 -!- opticron_ is now known as opticron 08:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 08:08 <@Dagmar> No, I just gave up on the idea of going back to bed when I woke up at 4:30 08:08 <@Dagmar> I just went out to McDonalds to learn they open the dining room at freakin' 5am 08:23 <@Dagmar> I think we need to start referring to these SJWs by their forner name: 08:23 <@Dagmar> "Attention whores" 08:24 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that 08:24 <@Dolemite> SJWs? 08:24 <@Bahhumbug> Social Justice Warriors 08:25 <@Dagmar> I think it might actually defuse most of their power 08:25 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@66.55.13.134] has joined #se2600 08:25 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@66.55.13.134] has quit [Changing host] 08:25 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 08:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 08:25 <@Dagmar> Unlike the traditional attention whore, an SJW doesn't attract attention to themselves directly 08:25 <@Dagmar> That would be too obvious. 08:26 <@Dagmar> Instead, they concoct a narrative giving a misrepresentative view of societal ills blown wildly out of proportion. 08:26 <@Dagmar> ...which of course they are wholly against and are right in the center of. 08:27 <@Dagmar> Instead of dragging everyone's attention to them, they manufacture an issue and then stand right there in the middle of it to fight it. 08:28 <@Dagmar> I'll wager that a significant part of what's given #GamerGate steam is that while all these gamers are _at home_ they have their small circle of friends and that's all the sample of culture they get 08:28 <@Dagmar> ...but this last week we've had both PAX Prime and Dragon*Con 08:29 <@Dagmar> A prime opportunity for gamers in the _thousands_ to get out there in public and see that actually, there's a lot fewer serial rape supremacists than they were led to believe. 08:29 <@Dagmar> ...and that actually women do already comprise 47% of gamers. 08:30 <@Dagmar> ...and that these polygender super-srs special little flowers are actually histronic fuckwits of the worst sort. 08:33 <@Bahhumbug> I can't possibly agree with you more here, Dagmar. 08:34 <@Dagmar> Well, it's been eating at me that the bullshit I've been hearing from the SJws so clearly doesn't seem to be reflected in reality 08:34 <@Dagmar> ...because *I leave the house* and talk to people. 08:35 <@Dagmar> I don't give a damn what someone's sexual orientation is, so long as it doesn't require a long-winded explanation as opposed to "I like girls", "I like guys", or "I'm bi". Sex just isn't that complex for the rest of the species. 08:36 <@Dagmar> ...and everywhere I look I see... mostly people who *also* don't give a fuck who someone is sleeping with, unless they're being cockblocked by it. 08:36 <@Dagmar> I started looking for the 10,000-ft view of the phenomenon and I think I've just about got it figured out now. 08:56 <@Dagmar> Oh, I should mention I made a poor neighbor man spit out his coffee apparently 08:56 <@Dagmar> Some jackass dumped miscellaneous trash in our parking lot 08:57 <@Dagmar> I've been picking up bottles and such as I walk past them, and tossing them in the dumpster. 08:57 <@Dagmar> $neighbor was on patio, heard me go out for breakfast, come back... 08:58 <@Dagmar> I see a used deodorant stick on the ground. "Old Spice 'Swagger'? SWAGGER?... Fucking hispters!" 08:58 <@Dagmar> *dumpsterthump* 08:58 <@CRasH180> lol 08:59 <@Bahhumbug> heh 09:03 <@Wilpig_> heh 09:07 <@Dagmar> I'm having fun explaining to people that I'm the new neighbor 09:07 <@Dagmar> "How long have you lived here?" 09:07 <@Dagmar> "Oh about 8 years now." 09:15 <@Wilpig_> ugh. our new manager person is shit for follow through on stuff 09:28 <@Dagmar> wheee... 09:38 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 09:48 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@98.240.51.138] has joined #se2600 09:52 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:17 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: scribbles 10:20 <@Wilpig_> just got the dirt on what happened to the site yesterday 10:20 <@Wilpig_> short version STP failed and looped caused a storm, storm triggered some high end network gear to say fuck this i'm outta here. 10:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: scribbles 10:24 <@Dagmar> Heh 10:41 <@Wilpig_> http://staff.tumblr.com/post/96567080190/data-center-connection-issues 10:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Tumblr Staff (at staff.tumblr.com) 10:50 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 10:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 11:14 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 11:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 11:46 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:06 < aestetix_> Dagmar: yep 12:07 < aestetix_> Dagmar: the SJWs aim for easy targets. 12:07 < aestetix_> Notice how the Ada Inititive tried to get a talk pulled from a very small hacker conference, and totally ignored the 100,000 attendee computer conference that had blatant booth babe issues 12:16 <@Corydon76-home> I'm mostly unconcerned with "booth babe" issues. When was the last time you saw a really unpleasant looking man in a booth? 12:17 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: that's why we wrote the HOPE policy to be gender-neutral 12:17 <@Corydon76-home> and as to them not being technically knowledgable, of course not! Booths are staffed by salespeople, not techs. 12:18 < aestetix_> yep 12:20 < aestetix_> http://miter.mit.edu/the-unexotic-underclass/ 12:37 <@shapr> SHAZAM! 12:37 * shapr hugs vainas 12:40 * brimstone hugs vainas 12:42 <@shapr> who doesn't love vainas? 12:42 <@shapr> well, maybe Corydon76-home 12:42 <@Corydon76-home> Why would you say that? 12:42 <@shapr> I was just guessing. 12:44 <@Corydon76-home> Loving body parts is nonsensical. 12:45 < aestetix_> What if they love you back? 12:45 <@Corydon76-home> I don't love my liver and pancreas, though I wouldn't want to be without them 12:45 <@Wilpig_> the how would you drink? 12:45 <@shapr> I love my butt. I have a very nice butt. 12:45 <@shapr> although my legs are pretty darn sexy too 12:45 < aestetix_> shapr: Corydon76-home probably loves it too 12:45 <@shapr> Really, who wouldn't be happy have an amazing pair of legs? 12:46 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: I've never seen it 12:46 <@Corydon76-home> Unless you've done a human cadaver dissection, none of you have seen a vagina, either 12:47 <@Corydon76-home> You may have seen a vulva. But that's different 12:47 <@shapr> The vulva is just there to draw you in 12:47 <@shapr> it's like advertising 12:47 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: unless you've played with a speculum 12:47 <@shapr> ok, I'm going back to work now. 12:49 < aestetix_> shapr: you should show Corydon76-home a picture of your butt 12:49 <@shapr> no way, it's so amazing everyone would be jealous 12:53 < aestetix_> shapr: what about your dong 12:54 < aestetix_> assuming you have one 12:54 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: why are you so interested in what people show me? 12:55 <@Wilpig_> he's preparing himself to show you something as well 12:57 <@shapr> uh oh 12:57 <@shapr> RUN AWAY 13:15 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:17 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: I just wanted ot make sure you were included 13:36 <@Dolemite> Ok, if I'm dead by tomorrow, blame Waldek at Razzleberrie's Laboratory. 13:36 <@Dolemite> I got tricked into eating a 1.7 million scoville pepper 13:37 <@Dolemite> I'm going to be shitting nuclear grade uranium by morning 13:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dolemite: ok? 13:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 13:37 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: ghost pepper? 13:37 <@Dolemite> Ghost Pepper is milder than this 13:37 <@Wilpig_> Dolemite: does that come with aloe toilet paper? 13:38 <@Dolemite> I think the Chost Chili is close to 1M units. Crank that up by 70%. 13:38 <@Corydon76-home> GMO pepper? 13:38 <@Corydon76-home> I thought Ghost Pepper was the strongest pepper 13:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> new pepper called "fuck with Dolemite-pepper" 13:39 <@Corydon76-home> Or are you talking about a bowl of chili made from extract? 13:39 * shapr swears at Python 13:39 <@Dolemite> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale 13:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: Scoville scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 13:40 <@Dolemite> It's a cross pollinated pepper. They are doing that all of the time to make new ones. 13:40 <@Corydon76-home> Ah... 13:40 <@Dolemite> I had some Carolina Reaper extract made into a salsa first, but only a small amount of that 13:40 <@Dolemite> The Pot 7 isn't listed on wikipedia 13:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> fuck all that shit, I stay in the paprika/bell pepper range, where you get this odd thing called _flavor_ 13:41 <@Dolemite> oh, sorry, it's the "7 Pot Primo" 13:41 <@Corydon76-home> I don't understand the lure of eating something that may cause blistering to internal tracts 13:41 <@Dolemite> I was tricked into eating this one 13:41 <@Dolemite> I was told it was a jalapeno popper but made with a scotch bonnet 13:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats considered assault 13:42 <@Corydon76-home> You know you can spit it out, right? 13:42 <@Dolemite> I could gag myself and throw it up, too 13:42 <@Dolemite> It didn't get hot until after I'd already swallowed 13:42 <@Dolemite> delayed reaction pepper 13:42 <@Corydon76-home> Ouch 13:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> did you cry? 13:42 <@Corydon76-home> I'd suggest lots of milk to counteract 13:43 <@Dolemite> I drank some whole milk to help 13:43 <@Corydon76-home> Gargle with milk, then swallow 13:43 <@Dolemite> then went to the bathroom to see if I was going to throw up, which I didn't... and then started sweating like a race horse 13:43 <@Corydon76-home> and skim milk should be sufficient. It's the protein which counteracts, not the fat. 13:43 <@Dolemite> haven't had a wave of cramps/sweat in over 30 minutes, now, so I think it's all over but the nuclear poop 13:44 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, and the 6 weeks of hemorrhoids 13:44 <@Dolemite> Ok, it's not as bad as Waldek said it was. It's only 1.1 Million Scoville. 13:45 <@Dolemite> rather, depends on where you ask 13:45 <@Dolemite> https://sites.google.com/site/tylerfarmsebay/home/seeds 13:45 <@Corydon76-home> Probably depends upon the actual pepper measured 13:46 <@Corydon76-home> You're going to see some variation naturally 13:47 <@Corydon76-home> and a lot more variation if the hybrid hasn't fully stabilized 13:47 -!- CRasH181 [~CRasH180@98.240.51.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:48 <@Corydon76-home> http://instagram.com/p/sfz-WuLJKm/?modal=true 14:30 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:57 * shapr whomps 15:04 <@Mirage> both hosts on same ESX server..how is this possible?? 15:04 <@Mirage> epel/primary_db 13% [==- ] 823 B/s | 871 kB 112:02 ETA 15:05 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 15:06 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:06 <@Wilpig_> Mirage: magic! 15:07 <@Mirage> I think someone swicthed out the virtual NICs for virtual serial modems. 15:08 <@Mirage> That's the only rational explanation. I even migrated both from one host to another. They are all on a distributed virtual switch, though, so that's the most likely culprit at this point. 15:12 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has joined #se2600 15:19 <@Wilpig_> someone is deliberately fucking with you 15:26 <@Bahhumbug> Or epel is broken for the 3rd time in as many days. 15:34 <@Wilpig_> he said it was pointed at a local server for epel 15:35 <@Wilpig_> at least that was my understanding of it 15:37 <@shapr> someone is always fucking with you 15:38 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:38 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@99-2-136-47.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:38 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 15:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 15:42 <@Bahhumbug> I'm still going to go with "epel is broken" because it was earlier this morning (for a brief time) just as it was yesterday, Bad metadata pushes to their mirrors. 15:42 <@Bahhumbug> (Not his problem, but I am still irked by it) 15:47 <@Mirage> Bahhumbug: local mirror repo...not from the internet 15:49 <@CRasH180> Has anyone ever added additional drivers to a VMware vSpehre Hypervisor ESXi ISO? 15:50 <@CRasH180> As in, the NIC card I am trying to use for vSphere is not in the list of drivers included with the image. I am trying to add some Realtek drivers to the ISO 15:51 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53 <@brimstone> CRasH180: good luck 15:54 <@brimstone> i hacked on the esxi installer iso recently 15:54 <@brimstone> that's a piece 15:54 <@CRasH180> Yeah, I found a tool called the ESXi Customizer 15:54 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:54 <@CRasH180> I am trying to use it, but it wants VIB files. I have source code for drivers 15:57 <@CRasH180> I will check with the #vmware channel to see if anyone can assist 16:06 <@Bahhumbug> Mirage: I'm still going to blame epel. 16:06 <@Bahhumbug> Because it's irrational and I am nuts. 16:07 <@Bahhumbug> About time. 16:07 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07 <@Bahhumbug> Joan Rivers kicked the bucket. 16:08 <@Corydon76-home> and two more Republicans go to prison for corruption 16:09 <@CRasH180> Bahhumbug, I just saw that 16:10 <@Bahhumbug> Yep. Ex-Gov and his wife from VA. 16:10 <@CRasH180> Bahhumbug, I just saw that 16:10 <@Bahhumbug> :) 16:10 <@CRasH180> Hmmm 16:12 <@Corydon76-home> Next up, Rick Perry 16:13 <@Corydon76-home> He should be so lucky as to receive a swift trial 16:13 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 16:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 16:44 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 16:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 17:13 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 17:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 17:22 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:22 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMO_Hi-uA-s 17:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: ▶ Idiots with Guns - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 17:24 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 17:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 17:28 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:34 <@CRasH180> brimstone: a user by the name of rohlando provided me with some links to some information about creating said images for VMware, http://goo.gl/HjYYnn, http://goo.gl/vesHQW, and http://goo.gl/8FxmlR 17:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/court-rules-gay-marriage-bans-states-25250547 17:47 <@GateKeeper> Title: Court Rules Against Gay Marriage Bans in 2 States - ABC News (at abcnews.go.com) 17:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wisconsin and Indiana 17:49 <@CRasH180> Wow, I did not realize that same-sex marriage is now allowed in 19 states. It is growing 17:49 <@CRasH180> oh, and DC 17:49 <@CRasH180> err, District of Columbia 17:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohio? 17:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> when did that drop? 17:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohhh nvm 17:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> "oh...", and DC 17:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 17:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> Ohio, now recognizes same-sex marriages from out of state... LOL 17:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state 17:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Same-sex marriage law in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 17:54 <@CRasH180> When you read that, all I could think of was some jerk yelling, "Getta out my state!". 17:54 <@CRasH180> Ignorance is bliss 17:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much 17:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> but "the south" and "mountain west" are the only real hold outs 17:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> once ohio turns, it'll flip the rest of the country except 'the south' 17:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> just b/c of presidential politics, and the feeling of "well... damn... we don't want to be THE LAST state to be overturned" 17:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> but who knows... TN might just well want to be that, lol 17:57 <@CRasH180> Hopefully so. The fact that same-sex marriages cannot receive the same rights as opposite-sex marriages is confounding to me 17:58 <@Wilpig_> http://kotaku.com/world-of-warcrafts-robin-williams-tribute-is-just-great-1630604738?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow 17:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> CRasH180: it makes perfect sense to me 17:59 <@CRasH180> ok 17:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> ignorant fucks, and them not being machievellian enough to realize that they should make Corydon76-home be as misserable as they want the rest of us, trapped in loveless marriages and having to pay alimony, etc 17:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL 17:59 <@sasquatc4> anyone know of a way to append a binary blob of data to an already compiled executable and be able to reference it from within the exe? So far Ive found you can convert the blob into a machine specific .o and then recompile that .o in and reference it 17:59 <@sasquatc4> but im trying to avoid the recompile part 18:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> sasquatc4: thats true 18:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> you can also use 'linking' if you are just over-writing specific public API calls 18:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> aka... the old DLL approach 18:01 <@sasquatc4> naw im trying to make a self executing flash file, basically what we have is a utility to write new firmware in flash, and a bin or mot file to put in there, im trying to append the bin to the utility, and then use it inside 18:01 <@sasquatc4> so an auto-updater 18:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> also, you should look precisely at the 'gcc' command that it is saying for you to run 18:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c it MIGHT already be doing the linker only part 18:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> ahh 18:02 <@Corydon76-home> sasquatc4: ld can link multiple object files together, if that's what you're thinking about doing 18:03 <@sasquatc4> yea, thats the part im trying to avoid, because at this point in our build we've already built the update utility and the bin files 18:03 <@sasquatc4> so im trying to avoid having to go and recompile to the updater with the bin converted to a .o 18:03 <@sasquatc4> not sure if its possible since there may be no way for the updater to reference the data without it being in elf format 18:03 <@Corydon76-home> Why not just do an exec() on the updater, then? 18:04 <@Corydon76-home> Or a fork/exec? 18:05 <@sasquatc4> not sure what you mean, its already a standalone application (the updater), so theres nothing to fork 18:05 <@Corydon76-home> That's essentially what you're doing, isn't it? Turning control over to another precompiled binary, albeit temporarily? 18:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> sasquatc4: if you don't need to change any source code files "recompiling" is not going to take long, b/c it is only doing the linking 18:05 <@sasquatc4> yea, just seeing what other options are out there 18:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> none 18:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> other than manually linking 18:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL 18:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> but if you want everything in a single blob, thats about it 18:06 <@CRasH180> brimstone: I think I figured this out. The other methods were too darn complicated and someone else has already done what I was needing. On http://goo.gl/Vt4UAA it explains how to do this easy peasy 18:06 <@sasquatc4> Corydon76-home, naw, so right now what devs do is they basically run ./updater filename.bin, and it flashes the new file, this is just done at a cmd prompt on the box 18:06 <@CRasH180> I am going to go do some Just Dance 2014 with my Wife. You all have fun! 18:06 <@sasquatc4> Im just seeing if there is an equivalent to basically, cat updater filename.bin > total_updater 18:06 <@Corydon76-home> sasquatc4: So use the system() call from your other script 18:06 <@sasquatc4> and then be able to run total_updater referencing the bin file data 18:07 <@Corydon76-home> Or other binary 18:07 <@Corydon76-home> man -s 3 system 18:08 <@sasquatc4> well the problem im trying to solve is that we try to force the devs to stay in sync when the update program updates, because it includes new hardware versions and what not. It will refuse to run if it detects in the binary file that there is a more recent version that what it is. So if we package everything together then thats solved 18:09 <@sasquatc4> so just having one reference another app doesnt really solve that 18:09 <@Corydon76-home> If you need the original binary wrapped into your original, I would suggest using an archive utility like tar or zip to package the files together, include them into a symbol, then unpackage them into a directory before doing the system() call 18:09 <@Corydon76-home> You understand what I mean? 18:10 <@sasquatc4> yea, self-extracting wrapped in a shell script type of thing 18:10 <@Corydon76-home> Yep 18:10 <@Corydon76-home> But you can do that in a binary way, too 18:10 <@Corydon76-home> And maybe even delete the temporary directory afterwards, so it's all self-contained 18:11 <@sasquatc4> yea i was also trying to avoid the decompression/tmp usage as well, depending on whats been going on on the box there may not be the ram available for use in tmp 18:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> whats the problem with using gradle or something to pull the most recent versions? 18:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> make, etc ... exist to keep "developers up to date" 18:12 <@Corydon76-home> sasquatc4: is this Solaris? 18:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> some suck at it, but ehh, lol 18:12 <@sasquatc4> its embedded dev, we cross-compile for mips/arm boxes on linux boxes 18:12 <@sasquatc4> the targets are linux though 18:12 <@sasquatc4> but not running anywhere near a full system 18:12 <@Corydon76-home> Solaris is the only platform I know of where /tmp uses RAM/swap 18:13 <@sasquatc4> yea, these do since many boxes have no hdd 18:13 <@sasquatc4> there is no other option for tmp 18:13 <@Corydon76-home> Ah 18:14 <@Corydon76-home> So your updater exists entirely in tmpfs? 18:14 <@sasquatc4> well it can be run from anywhere, i usually run mine from an nfs mount, some use tmp, some use the hdd if they are on an hdd box 18:14 <@Corydon76-home> But your NFS mount is not writable from the embedded machine? 18:15 <@sasquatc4> but doing the unpacking on an underpowered box over an nfs mount and then reading back to flash it takes unnecessary time 18:15 <@sasquatc4> for now i think i may try the recompile route since its the most straightforward so far 18:15 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:32 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-12-31-114.static.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 18:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 18:36 <@Bahhumbug> Fedora has been memory-backed /tmp for 2 releases now. 18:40 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: It makes a lot more sense in modern times, with 2G+ of memory. I always thought it was incredibly stupid back in the days of 32MB memory. 18:42 <@Bahhumbug> I concur for the most part. Fedora's implementation, like most of what comes out of that trainwreck, was poorly done but the idea itself is sound. 19:00 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:04 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-12-31-114.static.spbg.sc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-12-31-114.static.spbg.sc.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 19:13 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:14 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:26 <@Dagmar> Holy crap here's some ancient history https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axKr8EsaLWs 19:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: motherboard 1 of 4 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 19:41 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 19:52 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MWWmwAe1vY this sounds so fucking BS 19:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Buying Games at Retail Greener than Downloading - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 19:56 <@Dagmar> That's because it *is* bullshit 19:57 <@Dagmar> Anything to avoid paying attention to the journalistic integrity crisis in progress 19:58 < RangerZ1> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jiec.12181/full 19:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Carbon Footprint of Games Distribution - Mayers - 2014 - Journal of Industrial Ecology - Wiley Online Library (at onlinelibrary.wiley.com) 19:58 < RangerZ1> I found it, and its estimating that everyone downloads games at "peak" usage times 19:58 < RangerZ1> at most 20Mbps 19:58 < RangerZ1> so you have to leave your shit on for longer 19:59 < RangerZ1> also... I don't see the power usage of 'low-power' mode where it can still download 19:59 < RangerZ1> and not be "on" 19:59 <@opticron> "leave your shit on for longer" <-- this assumes that those people don't just leave it on all the time anyway 20:00 < RangerZ1> that too 20:02 < RangerZ1> actually IGN has been doing almost nothing but putting up videos of them playing old ass games likes the 64 zelda 20:02 < RangerZ1> and whats funny is.... they are about the ONLY game company without their dicks in PR/Indie game devs 20:02 < RangerZ1> mephorical or literal 20:09 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@71-12-31-114.static.spbg.sc.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16 <@Dagmar> RangerZ1: So they're idiotically assuming that people who play video games have rigs that can't handle doing two things (downloading, and literally anything else) at the same time? 20:17 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, they were looking at PS3. 20:17 <@Dagmar> heh 20:20 < RangerZ1> well either way, you can DL while doing other things now too I think 20:20 < RangerZ1> maybe if only watching a video... i dunno 20:21 <@Dagmar> Only with video 20:21 < RangerZ1> apparently any ps3 game with no online content 20:21 < RangerZ1> also 20:21 <@Dagmar> So... which ones would those be, now? heh 20:21 < RangerZ1> -PS3 games without online content. Depending on the game you can play the offline content in an online game, but some games pause them all the time. It is up to the game to say when the downloads pause. 20:27 <@Dagmar> They should do a study to investigate the correlation between having Origin installed and butt cancer. 20:29 <@Bahhumbug> Hahahahahahaha 20:30 < RangerZ1> hey... leave aestetix_ out of this 20:30 <@Dagmar> Seriously, I'd be buying The Sims 4 right now but... 20:30 <@Dagmar> EA/Origin. 20:30 < RangerZ1> don't bother 20:30 < RangerZ1> apparently its all buggy as fuck too 20:30 <@Dagmar> There's a big list of features they seem to have dropped from the game, making it less complete than Sims 3. 20:30 <@Dagmar> It costs fucking *seventy* dollars 20:31 <@Dagmar> ...and Origin is a bag of dicks. 20:31 < RangerZ1> yep, they already made that content too... then they cut it out for more 'expansions' and DLC 20:32 < RangerZ1> which is the epitome of fucking bad BS 20:33 < RangerZ1> ohhh... apparently this month is Nintendo's 125 year an. 20:33 < RangerZ1> so thats why IGN is playing all of the classic nintendo games 20:33 < RangerZ1> I was like...wtf... why..., but still.... 20:33 <@Bahhumbug> 125? 20:33 <@Bahhumbug> What were they? A Pachinko company? 20:34 < RangerZ1> no 20:34 < RangerZ1> thats sega now 20:34 < RangerZ1> lol (i'm not kidding, they were bought buy a pachinko company) 20:35 < RangerZ1> lets just say... v1 of Tetris in 1898 was pretty good 20:35 < RangerZ1> LOL 20:35 < RangerZ1> ohh... trading card manf. 20:35 < RangerZ1> interesting 20:36 < RangerZ1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NintendoCards.jpg 20:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: File:NintendoCards.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 20:36 <@Bahhumbug> Neat. 20:37 < RangerZ1> thats from ~1907 +-5yr 20:37 < RangerZ1> makes pokemon make a lot more sense now 20:39 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:49 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 21:10 -!- stowbari [~Stowbari@cpe-184-56-99-238.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwpUKI-CQAAuiKf.png 21:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: you've gotta see that 21:17 <@Bahhumbug> sigh 21:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: I didn't mention you, lol 21:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe 21:23 <@Bahhumbug> You're no better than the idiots you're bitching about. Go spend your time and energy on something that actually important. This nonsense is not that thing. 21:24 * RangerZ|Laptop hands Bahhumbug his cane and walks slowly off his lawn 21:27 <@Bahhumbug> Handing me a weapon and walking slow? 21:27 <@Bahhumbug> Seems as silly as this gaming crap. 21:30 <@Bahhumbug> (I actually like you; I wouldn't go after you. I just find this farce... farsical. There are so many other things to worry about that make this all pale in comparison yet people are more worried about some sort of journalistic integrity than any of those other issues at present and I find it all a pathetic reflection of our current society. This shit shouldn't 21:30 <@Bahhumbug> even be a blip on anyones radar yet it's everywhere. ) 21:33 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 21:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> its ok now 21:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> SuMo_D is here 21:41 <@SuMo_D> PANIC PANIC PANIC 21:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> god damn it... 21:42 <@Bahhumbug> Please don't say that. I've got a remote server kernel panicing do to bad ram. 21:42 <@Bahhumbug> meh, due 21:42 <@Bahhumbug> The poor spelling in this place is rubbing off on me. 21:42 <@Bahhumbug> (No comments from the peanut gallery) 21:43 <@SuMo_D> what is ok? you're not a homogeneous group for half a second? 21:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> nothing, just everything is better when you are here *innocent look* 21:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 21:44 <@SuMo_D> 0_0 21:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> too bad you won't be a PN 21:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> .... b/c we could use a higher non-crazypants female ratio 21:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 21:45 <@SuMo_D> yeah.... there is going to be a massive cross genre house show with a ton of my friends and great music here... 21:45 <@SuMo_D> so.... 21:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> at this rate... we might just all visit you instead... 21:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 21:46 <@Bahhumbug> Heh. 21:46 <@SuMo_D> 5$ house show of awesomeness > travel, 25$, hotel and crazypants 21:46 <@Bahhumbug> What if you threw a con and no one came? 21:47 <@SuMo_D> It'd be sad 21:47 <@SuMo_D> but it'd also be cause I didn't do something right 21:47 * Bahhumbug sheds a tear 21:47 <@Bahhumbug> Wait, just an allergy. 21:47 <@Wilpig_> SuMo_D: I'll make sure to send you pics from the primus show i'll be at. ;) 21:48 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48 < RangerZ|Laptop> oddball said that some people cosplayed at dragoncon as a 'ball pit(pool with few dozen balls in it)' 21:48 <@SuMo_D> I didn't get my shit together on the programming, marketing and general awesome if my event failed... (which has yet to happen) 21:48 <@SuMo_D> not any of the events on which I'm the primary at least... 21:48 <@SuMo_D> Wilpig_ that'll be awesome 21:49 <@SuMo_D> honestly the iMagine upstate event is shaping up to be really read 21:49 <@SuMo_D> rad 21:49 <@SuMo_D> lol 21:49 <@SuMo_D> read the rad! 21:51 <@SuMo_D> if any of you feel like visiting a fun tech event - it'll be a week long thing with all kinds of cool stuff going on www.imagineupstate.org kinda Maker Faire-esk but business relevant not quite a lets all get drunk around cool shit thing 21:51 <@SuMo_D> but hopefully I'll get my riot trike up and ready 21:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> SuMo_D: would love to, but too busy this semester, etc ... taking prelims :/ 21:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> and papers due soon 21:59 < RangerZ1> ohh its in march 21:59 < RangerZ1> maybe 22:09 <@SuMo_D> prelims for what? 22:09 <@SuMo_D> I thought you were done? 22:10 <@Wilpig_> he's trying out for a bukake film 22:10 <@SuMo_D> lol 22:10 <@Bahhumbug> hahahahahaha 22:11 <@Bahhumbug> Fuck you. It hurts to laugh and it makes me cough... 22:11 < RangerZ1> Wilpig_ recommended his agent and the best photographer for that kind of shoot 22:11 <@Bahhumbug> But that was funny. 22:31 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: There was a girl running around at GMX dressed up as a ball pit. ...and she actually said "Yes, for $17,000 you can be in me for an hour." 22:31 <@Dagmar> She's my kinda girl. 22:31 <@SuMo_D> lol 22:33 <@Dagmar> I'd have been begging her to have dinner with me. Heheh 22:35 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/04/justice/hot-car-death-ross-harris-grand-jury/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 22:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Hot car death dad indicted on murder charges - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com) 22:35 <@Bahhumbug> Yay! 22:35 <@CRasH180> I would be afraid she would keep asking me if I would like balls with that 22:35 <@Bahhumbug> GenPop... I give him a week, tops. 22:36 <@CRasH180> I saw that. I cannot believe people leave their children in a hot car alone. It is like an oven 22:36 <@Bahhumbug> I want 10 minutes alone with that fucker. 22:36 <@Bahhumbug> Just 10 minutes. 22:37 <@Bahhumbug> I will even consent to being unarmed. 22:37 <@Wilpig_> oh... this just can't be good. http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/roo/4652583647.html 22:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Are you a female that wants to stop living in Covenant House? (at newyork.craigslist.org) 22:37 <@Wilpig_> SuMo_D: ^ 22:37 <@Bahhumbug> CRasH180: In this case it's far beyond that. 22:38 <@Bahhumbug> This has all the appearances of premeditation. 22:38 <@CRasH180> yeah 22:38 <@SuMo_D> WIlpig_ yeah... a craigslist tradition... 22:38 <@Bahhumbug> 10 22:38 <@Bahhumbug> minutes. 22:38 <@CRasH180> oh no 22:38 <@SuMo_D> the sleezy weird free apartment 22:39 <@CRasH180> Yeah, I do not like the last line of that ad, "First Come, First serve basis" 22:39 <@oddball> http://spyderqueen.tumblr.com/post/96663790572/nowithmoresodium-coolator-im-crying-the 22:39 <@Wilpig_> I was laughing more at the please submit pics 22:40 <@oddball> Wilpig_: you *must* follow that link. 22:40 <@Wilpig_> I just did 22:40 <@oddball> :) 22:40 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Looks good to me. :) 22:40 <@Wilpig_> the smile while the kid is .... HAHAHAHA 22:41 <@Wilpig_> I guess I should get up and do the dishes 22:41 <@Wilpig_> I have something like 10 ears of corn to cook tomorrow 22:42 <@Bahhumbug> Yummy. 22:42 <@SuMo_D> where's klixa she'd love that 22:42 <@SuMo_D> did you guys scare her off? 22:42 <@Bahhumbug> @any klixa 22:42 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: klixa was last seen in #se2600 1 day, 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: *** klixa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22:43 <@Bahhumbug> She's still around :) 22:43 <@Bahhumbug> I'm not sure we _could_ scare her off, to be honest. 22:43 <@Bahhumbug> She holds her own quite well. 22:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> she's not allowed to come into a chat with mostly males now, she's joined the Bay Area SJW movement 22:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 22:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> now if we can just get aestetix_ to adopt that policy...hmm... 22:44 <@Bahhumbug> That's easy enough to do. 22:47 <@Dagmar> I don't believe you 22:47 <@Bahhumbug> All you have to do is ask him real nice. 22:47 <@Bahhumbug> Right? 22:49 <@CRasH180> good night all 22:49 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:51 <@SuMo_D> this is going to be fun... http://artoo.io/documentation/getting-started/ 22:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: Artoo Platforms (at artoo.io) 22:54 < notlarry> So someone has shown up on my facebook page (probably from my forgotten past) and I have been busy replying to every post he has made over the last week or so with coresponding snoops links. 22:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> SuMo_D: what you need to do is buy lego mindstorm robots 22:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then write C++ for them 22:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> ;) 22:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> I know of an OS that supports that -_- 22:54 <@SuMo_D> Lego Mindstorms are fN 350$ 22:54 <@Bahhumbug> Mindstorms, esp the RCXII's, are... 22:54 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, that. 22:55 <@SuMo_D> you know how many Diavolinos I can get for that and components??? 22:55 <@Bahhumbug> Have you talked to the Lego Education people? 22:55 <@Bahhumbug> You might be able to get things _significantly_ cheaper. 22:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I was told it is super easy for non-profits to get 10k$ grants, you just have to ask politely for them... what... PN isn't going to be able to that? 22:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> SuMo_D: actually surprisingly grandpa Bahhumbug is right, you can probably get them a lot less than retail 22:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe 22:56 <@SuMo_D> who gives away super easy 10 k grants??? 22:57 <@SuMo_D> Bahhumbug I haven't talked to them, haven't really been focused on them, we have a middle school that let us borrow theirs for the summer session 22:58 <@SuMo_D> but yeah since lego mindstorms are focused on education and the Lego first leagues... I don't think they are that much more discounted :/ 22:58 <@SuMo_D> On a happy note... we should officially be getting our 15K grant this week 22:58 <@SuMo_D> that I wrote :) 22:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats good 22:58 <@SuMo_D> its for specific projects though 23:00 <@oddball> SuMo_D: yay! 23:03 <@SuMo_D> yeah! Freakin' Yea! 23:03 <@SuMo_D> :D 23:05 < RangerZ1> you just need to befriend a billionaire or two 23:05 < RangerZ1> lol 23:12 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: it is rather sad how superstitious and ignorant some people can be 23:13 <@Dagmar> This is why we should beat them more often. 23:14 <@Dagmar> If they so desperately want someone to fear to keep them behaving well, LET'S DONATE OUR TIME 23:15 <@Corydon76-home> I'm amused that Dan's god is long since dead, since he specified that his god is the common ancestor of apes and men 23:16 <@Dagmar> I'll put up with a lot of stupid on FB, but claiming that "science" says that there have always been apes is going too far 23:17 <@Corydon76-home> It's rather sad that this guy inspects houses for a living. Does faith hold up houses, too? 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> Ever seen the West side of Chicago? 23:18 <@Bahhumbug> I think faith is the only thing holding some of those places together. 23:29 < aestetix_> god 23:29 < aestetix_> I had to go to boxworks2014 today. What a worthless conference. 23:30 <@Corydon76-home> Why did you have to go? 23:30 < aestetix_> work 23:31 <@Corydon76-home> Looks pretty worthless from their speaker list 23:33 <@Corydon76-home> Looks like a massive circle jerk of salespeople, no technical talks 23:33 <@Bahhumbug> Finally, an app that doesn't suck. 23:33 <@Bahhumbug> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/09/04/dnt-app-saves-baby.kxly.html 23:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: Baby not breathing ... app to the rescue? - CNN.com Video (at www.cnn.com) 23:33 < aestetix_> Yes. 23:34 < aestetix_> And it was full of speakers preaching the cloud, and how it was great to be able to access their data from anywhere. 23:34 < aestetix_> None of them seemed to have considered any of the privacy implications. 23:34 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, it's even worse. It's one long sales presentation for Box. 23:34 < aestetix_> Yeah. 23:35 <@Corydon76-home> Why the fuck do people pay to see this shit? Seems like they should be paying the attendees with food to get them to listen 23:35 < aestetix_> Thankfully I didn't pay. 23:35 < aestetix_> But yeah. 23:35 <@Corydon76-home> It's also why I don't go to Amazon re:Invent 23:37 < aestetix_> I actually quite like talks about marketing and sales when they are actually interesting. 23:37 < aestetix_> These talks were all stupid buzzwords like "integration" and "collaboration" 23:37 <@Corydon76-home> Heh, integration pretty much describes a large portion of my job 23:38 < aestetix_> It can describe a lot of different things. Including nothing at all. Which is what most of the talks had. 23:38 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: Did you have anything to do with the AsteriskNow project? 23:39 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: I may have contributed a few bugfixes, but no, that's mostly others 23:39 <@Bahhumbug> I want to hate it for ripping off CentOS lock stock and barrel but I find it difficult as it seems very, _VERY_ well put together. 23:39 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: for example: "we did A/B testing on this page, and found X percent of people clicked on it" that interests me because it explains something about a demographic 23:39 < aestetix_> But not the crap they had 23:39 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: isn't it based on CentOS? 23:40 <@Bahhumbug> Sure it is. 23:40 <@Corydon76-home> The GUI wasn't always based on CentOS. It used to be based on some no-name company... rLinux or something like that 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> [root@asterisk etc]# grep ^server /etc/ntp.conf 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> server 0.centos.pool.ntp.org iburst 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> server 1.centos.pool.ntp.org iburst 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> server 2.centos.pool.ntp.org iburst 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> server 3.centos.pool.ntp.org iburst 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> [root@asterisk etc]# 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> It's CentOS with most of the branding removed. 23:41 <@Bahhumbug> There are telltale signs if you know what to look for, easter eggs dropped here and there; they're present. 23:41 <@Corydon76-home> Uh, given that CentOS is pretty much RHEL with the branding removed, I don't see the issue with that 23:42 <@Bahhumbug> The failed to remove all the branding. And I despise leeches. They could have done all this on their own, just like CentOS has to do, but they choose to take the lazy way out. 23:42 <@Corydon76-home> That's the way CentOS was always marketed. Red Hat stability, without the Red Hat cost. 23:43 <@Bahhumbug> Again, they took the lazy way out. They didn't do any of the real work of the rebuild. 23:43 <@Corydon76-home> Which would be what, to add a huge support burden on themselves? 23:43 <@Corydon76-home> The whole point of it was to reduce the support burden 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> Leeches. 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> The same as ClearOS used to be. 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> But be that as it may. 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> The interface is really, really nie. 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> nice. 23:44 <@Bahhumbug> Who ever did that design work did a remarkably good job. 23:45 <@Corydon76-home> and the point of removing any branding is to ensure that the original company doesn't get deluged with requests when there is a bug in the system 23:45 <@Bahhumbug> Um, no. The point of removing branding is because you're legally required to do so. 23:45 <@Bahhumbug> Branding, most specifically artwork, is encumbered. 23:46 <@Bahhumbug> Another naughty naughty: [root@asterisk etc]# grep centos /etc/yum.conf 23:46 <@Bahhumbug> bugtracker_url=http://bugs.centos.org/set_project.php?project_id=16&ref=http://bugs.centos.org/bug_report_page.php?category=yum 23:46 <@Bahhumbug> distroverpkg=centos-release 23:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Select Project - CentOS Bug Tracker (at bugs.centos.org) 23:47 <@Bahhumbug> I would be happy to report these if you have a contact point there or a bugtracker url 23:48 <@Corydon76-home> http://issues.asterisk.org, last I knew 23:48 <@Bahhumbug> Excellent. I will report those later this evening. Thanks. 23:49 <@Corydon76-home> It's Jira. It's a nice bugtracker, but as it's written in Java, it eats memory like candy 23:50 <@Bahhumbug> Jira++ 23:50 <@Bahhumbug> Confluence++ 23:50 <@Bahhumbug> Stash++ 23:50 <@Bahhumbug> Atlassian++ 23:50 <@Bahhumbug> I love their products. 23:50 <@Bahhumbug> We use them for our repo as we got a OSS comp'd license. 23:50 <@Corydon76-home> I once ran a Jira instance on 3G of memory, and it was barely functional 23:51 <@Bahhumbug> You need to feed and oil it, yes. But there is nothing better on the market. 23:51 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, the organization I was working with was a nonprofit, so we got a free license, too 23:51 <@Bahhumbug> Atlassian does very well in that aspect. 23:51 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: that reminds me of comparisons I was doing between a Redhat and a Fedora Core intro book a few years back 23:51 <@Bahhumbug> And their hosted services are _very_ robust. 23:51 < aestetix_> They were identical, except that the RHEL book had examples that related to the workplace. 23:52 <@Bahhumbug> they are not identical. 23:52 <@Bahhumbug> They never were identical. 23:52 < aestetix_> The books were. 23:52 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh, I see. 23:52 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, shit author then. 23:52 <@Bahhumbug> You remember the author by any chance? 23:52 <@Bahhumbug> Wasn't Mark Sobell, was it? 23:52 <@Corydon76-home> I did hate the fact that RH shipped a broken version of gcc (4.2.1) 23:53 <@Bahhumbug> That was in... el4? 23:53 <@Corydon76-home> Symbols aliasing was completely broken in that version, and I had to code a hack around it 23:53 <@Corydon76-home> EL5, I think 23:53 <@Bahhumbug> el5 is 4.1.2 23:54 <@Bahhumbug> el6 is 4.4.7 23:54 <@Corydon76-home> May have been 4.1.2 which was broken. It's been awhile 23:54 <@Bahhumbug> el7 is 4.8.2 23:54 * Bahhumbug shrugs 23:55 <@Bahhumbug> They built the entire distro off it. 23:55 <@Corydon76-home> We were using symbol aliasing for loadable modules 23:55 <@Corydon76-home> It was an incredibly elegant solution, and then we had to hack around it for Red Hat 23:56 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Fri Sep 05 00:00:40 2014