--- Log opened Tue Aug 26 00:00:30 2014 00:28 < aestetix> well 00:28 < aestetix> my google plus page has been updated for the first time in three years 00:29 * Bahhumbug hands aestetix a cookie 00:30 <@Dagmar> Lazy. 00:51 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 00:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 01:46 <@Dagmar> Hm... $19 for a Huawei Ascend II 2 M865c. I can deal with that 01:51 <@Dagmar> Wait... won't do Ting 01:52 <@Dagmar> I'm kinda determined to have the bike tracker only have a monthly cost of Ting's $9 + surcharges for <100Mb of data 01:52 <@Dagmar> I don't really expect it to do more than download new ephemeris tables every few days, and report it's location 02:31 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:34 <@notlarry> I need to find a job somewhere. 03:11 <@Bahhumbug> I thought you worked at Vandy? 04:16 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 04:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 04:20 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:28 < ShadowHntr> anyone here work with Intergraph down in Huntsville? 05:31 < ShadowHntr> hmmm... 05:31 < ShadowHntr> Corydon76-home: ping 06:05 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 06:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 06:09 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:30 <@Dagmar> Any of you guys have a Sony Cyber-Shot camera? 07:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:21 <@Dolemite> Bahhumbug: That's exactly why notlarry needs to find a new job. He's the only one left at Vandy for a reason - they've turned the jobs to suckage. 07:26 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: You wouldn't happen to know which brand cheap-ass camera is likely to still support live viewing over USB would you? 07:26 <@Dagmar> I know it's an odd question 07:29 <@Dolemite> Well, I don't really buy cheap-ass cameras... but can you not use a USB webcam? 07:31 <@Dagmar> Range 07:31 <@Dagmar> They're generally fixed-focus 07:31 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but so are cheap ass cameras 07:31 <@Dagmar> It occurs to me that I'm not limited to just the one spare composite video input on the PVR-500 if I can simply read from a v4l device over USB 07:32 <@Dolemite> What is the application? 07:32 <@Dagmar> Nah there's a ton of these Cyber-shot things and their kin that have actual mechanical lenses 07:32 <@Dagmar> Realtime video relaying over networks 07:32 <@Dolemite> Cyber-shot isn't a cheap-ass camera... I consider cheap-ass to be the sub $50 range 07:33 <@Dagmar> I am not sitting idle and watching another year of talks mysteriously never appear online if I can record, encode, and ship on-site via MythTV and so on 07:33 <@Dagmar> Actually considering that Comsumer Depot (i.e., ShiftyMart) has a bunch of the fucking things for $50 they fit that description now 07:33 <@Dagmar> Half the damn things have composite output 07:34 <@Dagmar> Nothing has *melted* yet but i've got the 5200 and 8500 nVidia cards in the same box 07:35 <@Dagmar> I can literally bucket-brigade video around in that 07:35 <@Dolemite> I have a Hauppauge HD-PVR (component in / h.264 over USB out) sitting in a box, idle, at home. 07:35 <@Dagmar> Just freakin' play one of the input streams full-screen down the 5200 with whatever I want using XOSD overlaying it 07:35 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Take the power supply for it out of the box and drop it in the trash 07:36 <@Dolemite> I've already had it replaced by Hauppauge 07:36 <@Dagmar> D-link sells a matching one for like $10-15 on Amazon, and if you dont' mind beheading something and doing a little electrical tape work, the PSP's AC adapter is also compatible 07:36 <@Dagmar> I just had to workaround mine being a piece of shit this week 07:36 <@Dagmar> I am presently using my PSP's power supply 07:54 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 07:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 07:58 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:07 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 08:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 08:11 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:14 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: you have this to look forward to. http://www.darklegacycomics.com/454 08:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: Giddy Up (at www.darklegacycomics.com) 08:16 <@Dagmar> Nope. 08:16 <@Dagmar> I'm already on the PTR so I'm used to it 08:16 <@Dagmar> I've been rolling around on the Magic Rooster 08:26 <@Wilpig> http://www.channelate.com/2014/08/25/dating/ 08:27 <@Wilpig> also in non-public news 08:28 <@Wilpig> we've been getting hit with 40GB of traffic since last night originating from india and china 08:28 <@Wilpig> syn flood and ntp amplification attacks while simultaneously getting some image uploads 08:29 <@Wilpig> the images are having to go through the CP scanner and they've pushed enough in to make a dent 08:29 <@Wilpig> pool has 1,758,987 photo dna jobs and growing 08:40 -!- ignotus-sdf [~ignotus@66.223.56.243] has joined #se2600 08:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ignotus-sdf] by ChanServ 09:05 <@oddball> Yay! The A/C guy is here with the new unit! 09:05 <@Corydon76-home> \o/ 09:08 <@oddball> And apparently we looked sufficiently pathetic to the sales guy. The tech showed up with Train equipment instead of Armana at the same price. 09:13 <@Wilpig> http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmakers/201409/the-last-true-hermit 09:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Strange Tale of the North Pond Hermit (at www.gq.com) 09:13 <@Wilpig> ^ good read 09:19 -!- K4k__ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 09:28 <@oddball> Not sure I would count him as a proper hermit if he was constantly breaking into people's homes and stealing their stuff. 09:36 -!- K4k__ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 09:36 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 09:47 <@Corydon76-home> Unfortunate sequence of ads: Beer Pitchers only $1.79! FREE Urinal Screen with $50 Purchase! 09:47 <@oddball> heh 09:55 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 09:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 09:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmax3yEZX58 lol 09:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: Kermit the Frog Takes the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 09:59 <@ignotus-sdf> Wilpig: definitely a good read. I liked that. I think I prefer monastic contemplation, but I wholly get it. 10:00 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:02 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:15 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 10:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 11:07 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has joined #se2600 11:10 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:25 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 11:36 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 11:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 11:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig: i remember seeing the news about that when it happened 11:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> but he really didn't "live on his own" he was just stealing everything 11:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> The Hatchet was a better read ;) lol 11:38 <@oddball> Although, living through several winters in Maine in a tent is impressive. 11:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> or Brian's Winter 11:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah 11:50 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@98.240.51.138] has joined #se2600 11:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@98.240.51.138] has quit [Changing host] 11:51 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 11:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 11:54 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Client Quit] 11:55 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 11:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 11:56 <@shapr> yow! 11:56 <@shapr> good morning! 11:57 <@CRasH180> gm 11:58 * shapr hugs Shadow404 11:58 * shapr hugs klixa more 12:01 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:01 <@CRasH180> that was one hard hug 12:02 <@CRasH180> relocating to the house 12:02 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:02 <@shapr> wow, yeah... ping out! 12:06 <@Wilpig> damn shapr. hug Dolemite now 12:07 * shapr hugs Wilpig 12:19 * Wilpig sprays himself with lysol 12:26 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.148.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:28 <@ignotus-sdf> wow. you ran off opticron without even a hug! 12:28 <@shapr> It's the FORCE of my personality! 12:31 <@ignotus-sdf> Yeah, I had that force when I was single. 12:31 <@ignotus-sdf> I don't want it back. 12:31 <@shapr> heh 12:31 <@shapr> well, yeah 12:32 <@ignotus-sdf> Wilpig has demonstrated his resilience... 12:41 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:48 < RangerZ> my youtube suggested videos is funny right now "50 Shades Game Devs | Zoe Quinn" 12:55 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.148.219] has joined #se2600 12:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 13:17 < RangerZ> http://burners.me/2014/08/25/breaking-burning-man-is-closed/ 13:17 <@brimstone> is this like lol defcon is closed 13:19 < RangerZ> i dunno 13:19 < RangerZ> aestetix: hahaha 13:19 < RangerZ> sorry... 13:20 < RangerZ> apparently its true, they got delayed b/c of rain 13:21 < RangerZ> and reno isn't that farm from the bay 13:22 < RangerZ> only ~3.5hrs 13:22 <@Dolemite> California needs some of that rain 13:22 <@Dolemite> Or like all of it. Times 6. 13:22 < RangerZ> but the rain clouds made sure to keep their rain until they crossed the state border 13:23 < RangerZ> yeah 13:23 < RangerZ> i heard this morning, that if they don't have a la ninya(sp?) then it could be ~20 years of weather like this 13:24 < RangerZ> which would destroy the state economically 13:24 <@Dolemite> Well California steals all of its water from neighboring states, anyway, so as long is it generally gets in the area 13:24 < RangerZ> though I'm a little bit suspicious of forcasts 'that' far out, for obvious reasons 13:25 < RangerZ> but still, yeah... the situation isn't great 13:25 < RangerZ> the "western water pact" or w/e it is called is fucked up, b/c it gives anti-water conservation incentives to farmers and such 13:25 < RangerZ> b/c if they don't use 100% of their water allotment, then they will lose it the next year 13:26 < RangerZ> they are using 30~40% more water for growing crops than they need to, b/c the farmers don't dare cut their water usage 13:27 < RangerZ> and they need to get rid of fucking _lawns_ if they live in a desert 13:27 < RangerZ> and have pool covers to stop evaporation if they are going to keep pools 13:29 < RangerZ> also... making people in the bay area take a 10min shower each day would help society 13:29 < RangerZ> would either increase or decrease ... depending on the person, lol 13:45 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 13:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 13:50 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:53 < aestetix> penis 13:57 < RangerZ> aestetix: did you get rain from the storms that flooded reno? 14:06 < aestetix> no 14:06 < aestetix> you know that reno is like 8 hours away from san francisco, right? :p 14:08 <@Bahhumbug> oddball: Good deal. Trane is really about the best of breed. Buddy of mine has been in HVAC for 30 years and he has been pushing Trane for quality purposes for nearly that entire time. 14:08 <@Wilpig> aestetix: don't drive 8 hours to get a hooker. you can find something locally i'm sure 14:08 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: Yeah, I knew they were the "big name" for A/C 14:09 <@Bahhumbug> They replaced Carrier as the brand of choice about 15 years ago for most residential installs. You pay more, but you get it back in service lifetime. 14:09 < RangerZ> aestetix: google maps says 3.5hrs 14:09 < RangerZ> just up I80 14:10 <@Bahhumbug> If/when we replace our unit here at the house it will most definitely be Trane. 14:10 < aestetix> RangerZ: yes trust a machine over someone who has personally made that drive over 8 times ;) 14:10 < RangerZ> there are other good companies, but trane is like IBM 14:10 <@oddball> RangerZ: I believe it takes maybe an inch or so of rain to flood Reno. 14:10 < RangerZ> oddball: yep, lol 14:11 <@oddball> aestetix: Damn... how many smoke/pee breaks did you need? :p 14:11 < RangerZ> aestetix: thats fine, i'm just saying thats where I got the #s from 14:11 < RangerZ> might be 'traffic' 14:11 < RangerZ> and he drives at 25mph 14:11 < RangerZ> lol 14:11 < aestetix> tahoe is what usually slows ya down 14:11 < aestetix> although to be fair, most time when I have made the drive I've had a yurt strapped to the roof 14:12 < aestetix> which means you really can't go faster than 60 14:12 <@oddball> I love how Google now has a "fuck it, just fly there" option for directions. 14:12 < RangerZ> lol... nice 14:13 < RangerZ> I've actually thought about taking I80 from youngstown to san fran 14:13 < RangerZ> (yes it goes directly there) 14:14 < RangerZ> I've also looked... and a cross country train ride is only ~2,500$ for a really good sleeper cabin for 2 14:14 <@oddball> That could be fun. 14:14 < RangerZ> I've that would make a nice vacation ,just taking a slow train ride 14:14 < RangerZ> takes like 3 days from cleveland or so 14:15 <@oddball> I really wish AmTrack went more places, but it's just not going to happen. 14:15 < RangerZ> b/c TN gov gave the money back to the Fed. Govt 14:15 < RangerZ> as did Ohio's R Gov. 14:15 < RangerZ> which were the two main 'link' states 14:16 < RangerZ> in the midwest 14:16 < RangerZ> (which TN counts as for transit) 14:17 <@oddball> The reason given to me by someone that recently retired as management for AmTrack was that the owners of the tracks have been seriously jacking up the rates for renting the tracks. 14:17 < RangerZ> yep, that too 14:17 < RangerZ> but TN turned away like 300m dollars for construction of a single line from nashville to louisville 14:18 < RangerZ> b/c "upkeep was going to be too much" 14:18 <@oddball> Which is why there's no longer a route to New Orleans. They wanted entirely too much money after repairing the tracks from Kritina. 14:18 < RangerZ> http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzAyLzEyLzhjL2hpZ2hzcGVlZHJhLmVhZjM0LmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/2f73269d/7b5/high-speed-rail-map.jpg 14:18 <@oddball> Well, and it might have been for a dedicated track compared to what they expected business to be. 14:19 < RangerZ> that was funded, but most states turned away the money b/c they went through 'red' states 14:19 < RangerZ> I would have loved to ride from nashville to cleveland in 3hrs 14:20 < RangerZ> b/c they would have added interconnections between the different nodes (mainly st. L and cinci) in stage 2 14:21 <@oddball> Well, by that map, it would have been more like 5, but yeah... that would be nice. 14:21 < RangerZ> thats early stage one times 14:21 < RangerZ> which means ~120mph 14:21 < RangerZ> or something 14:22 <@oddball> Of course, people still try to beat the train at crossings/expect the train to swerve all the damned time at the speeds they go now. 14:22 < RangerZ> apparently these are going to try and avoid that by avoiding city centers other than stops 14:23 < RangerZ> and then do the chicago thing... where its above ground 14:23 <@oddball> The former AmTrack manager I know spent most of his career as the regional manager that had to coordinate clean up of those messes. 14:23 < RangerZ> and only in watch dogs do you jump infront of atrain on those tracks 14:23 < RangerZ> LOL 14:23 <@oddball> Yeah... basically the only way to avoid that shit is to not have crossings... period. 14:24 <@oddball> And even then, you'll still have the suicide by train incidents, but there's no way of stopping that. 14:24 < RangerZ> promises promises 14:24 < RangerZ> lol 14:25 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: what they need, then, is an automated cleaning system for the front of trains 14:25 <@oddball> I do love the folks that tell me "oh, it would be easy, just have the government pay for it!" Without thinking about where that money comes from. 14:26 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: It's not so much physical clean up (especially the suicide by train folks) as it is the paperwork and therapy for the engineers that just drove a train over some asshole. 14:27 < RangerZ> easy 14:27 < RangerZ> just put the train conductor in the back 14:27 < RangerZ> so they don't SEE it 14:27 < RangerZ> ;) 14:27 <@oddball> Oh, often times they don't see it beyond the CC TVs set up on the sides of the train in the first place. 14:28 <@oddball> AmTrack has an unofficial program to take care of the engineers that can't take it anymore. 14:29 <@Corydon76-home> Two to the side of the head? 14:29 <@oddball> There was at least one case of a guy being involved in 3 suicides within a year. 14:30 <@oddball> heh... no, they find them an office job *somewhere* in the company, work as trainers, etc. 14:30 <@Dickie> how do you kill yourself 3 times? 14:30 * oddball smacks Dickie with a tuna. 14:31 < RangerZ> Dickie: you can fail over and over 14:31 < RangerZ> its like building a PN website, one of those impossible taks 14:31 < RangerZ> tasks* 14:31 <@Wilpig> oddball: I disagree on the cleanup 14:31 <@Wilpig> the dude that was hit my the train here earlier this year made a huge fuckin' mess 14:31 < aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/2elynw/i_was_in_feruson_got_jumped_by_5_black_guys/ 14:32 <@Wilpig> in fact, his body parts did quite a bit of damage to the other folks in the area 14:32 <@Dagmar> It's amazing 14:32 <@oddball> Wilpig: Well, yes... but that mostly involves a mop, sponge, and bucket. 14:32 <@Dagmar> I ran out of smokes at 6am this morning and already my vitriol level is up 9000 percent 14:32 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: yeah, but do you really need anything more than a hose with a spray nozzle? 14:33 <@oddball> I will say that there are a number of incidents that do damage/derail the train, but they usually involve cars, etc. 14:33 <@Dagmar> ...of course I'm also dealing STUPID FUCKING HIPPIES on Facebook talking about "white privilege" 14:33 <@Dagmar> Blaming "white privilege" for the reasons cops shoot people 14:33 <@Dagmar> Of all the fucking stupid things they say, that one really tops it 14:33 <@oddball> Dagmar: And thus, the real problem fades into the background never to be solved. 14:34 <@Dagmar> I'm like, "No, that's unjust *power* making that happen" and the bitch comes back with "Well, it's white privilege that let that situation come about" 14:34 < RangerZ> http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html 14:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats - Nick Hanauer - POLITICO Magazine (at www.politico.com) 14:34 <@Dagmar> I WANT TO FUCKING SCREAM A HOLE THROUGH HER FOR THAT LEVEL OF STUPID 14:34 < RangerZ> listened to this guy on NPR this morning 14:34 <@Dagmar> LET'S BURN SOME PEOPLE 14:34 <@oddball> It's very simple. The higher your chances of you interacting with the police, the higher chances of you being shot. 14:34 < RangerZ> Dagmar: go get some smokes 14:34 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: white privilege is the reason cops don't shoot white people on a regular basis, which is why the problem of cops shooting people hasn't gotten addressed 14:34 < RangerZ> can calm down 14:34 < RangerZ> lol 14:35 < RangerZ> /can/and 14:35 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I have osme smokes. I just haven't lit one ye 14:35 <@Dagmar> y 14:35 <@Dagmar> BULLSHIT 14:35 <@Dagmar> Utter bullshit, Corydon 14:36 <@Dagmar> They have no problems shooting everyone equally, except for one very glaring factor: MONEY 14:36 <@Corydon76-home> Okay, then why hasn't society actually addressed the problem of cops? 14:36 < aestetix> https://phreaknic.info/content/code-conduct 14:36 <@Dagmar> The poorest people get shot the most 14:36 < RangerZ> its both 'not black' and 'having money <--> political power' 14:36 <@Dagmar> ...and black cops shoot black people just fine 14:36 <@Corydon76-home> Well, except that in the case of traffic stops, black people are more likely to get shot than white people 14:37 <@Corydon76-home> Even rich black people are more susceptible than rich white people 14:37 <@Dagmar> Cuz they're poor 14:37 <@Corydon76-home> RICH 14:37 <@Wilpig> aestetix: that's pretty shittastic 14:37 <@Dagmar> ...or they were in a poor part of town 14:37 <@Dagmar> ...but it is *not* race. 14:37 <@Dagmar> It is _class_. 14:37 <@Corydon76-home> Nope, on the highway, in a NICE car 14:37 <@oddball> aestetix: There's a blatant lie in that code of conduct. 14:38 <@oddball> We know perfectly well why Chattacon implimented that policy. 14:38 <@Corydon76-home> Cop saw nice car with a black person and figured "stolen" 14:38 <@Dagmar> The jackbooted asshole's mindset is that he has the badge and the gun and therefore the power, so people have to do what he says _or else_ 14:38 <@ignotus-sdf> Dagmar is right. 14:38 <@Wilpig> oddball: TL;DR; 14:38 <@ignotus-sdf> I know first hand. 14:38 < aestetix> oddball: I guess I'm glad that if PN adopted anything, it was that policy, and not the ada inititaive policy 14:38 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar is partially right. Poor is definitely part of the problem. 14:39 <@Dagmar> No, poor *is* the problem 14:39 < RangerZ> aestetix: its going to be a bait and switch, and be ADA when you show up 14:39 <@Dagmar> Everything else is just a fucking minor footnote by comparison 14:39 < aestetix> haha 14:39 <@oddball> It's a fun story, and marks the other con I've been to that included Federal agents showing up for an unscheduled official visit. 14:39 <@oddball> aestetix: Oh, I'm just poking fun, mostly. 14:39 < RangerZ> black IS a problem , but thats b/c historicly they have had less politcal power, and thats STILL true 14:40 <@Dagmar> http://www.fatalencounters.org/ <-- these people are going to be in so much trouble 14:41 <@opticron> freedom of choice of text editors? TOO FUCKING FAR 14:41 < RangerZ> money, disenfranchisement, and lots of other reasons have segregated people among socio-economic-racial lines 14:41 < RangerZ> opticron: you'll use emac and fucking like it 14:41 * opticron burns down RangerZ 14:42 <@Dagmar> ...and as long as people foolishly try and "Address the race issue" they will get fucking NOWHERE because the core problem is simply *class warfare& 14:42 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: I'm going to have to dig around to find the source. I think I actually heard it on NPR, but apparently the number of blacks shot and killed by cops vs the number of whites shot and killed by cops is actually not disporportionate. 14:42 < RangerZ> BOTH are too high 14:42 <@Dagmar> It is overwhelmingly the *poor* who get shot in high population areas, and the mentally-ill who get shot in low-population areas 14:42 <@oddball> RangerZ: Abso-fucking-lutely. 14:42 <@opticron> RangerZ, also, I reserve the right to call out morons who refuse to learn 14:43 < RangerZ> opticron: lol 14:43 <@oddball> And, at this point, I can only believe that cops are trained to just go ahead and shoot dogs. 14:43 <@Dagmar> They know nothing will happen to them 14:43 < aestetix> http://www.pewinternet.org/2014/08/26/social-media-and-the-spiral-of-silence/ 14:44 < RangerZ> now we just have the spiral of shit 14:44 <@Dagmar> aestetix: WHY CAN'T THERE BE MORE SILENCE 14:46 <@Dagmar> There are so many stupid people running around off their leashes right now we could probably make progress for humanity by declaring a "DAY OF SHUTTING YOUR FUCKING HOLE" campaign, by simply strapping some flags to it and making it sound patriotic 14:46 <@Dagmar> ...because the exceptionally stupid would fall for it, and maybe stop spreading their idiocy for one goddamn day 14:47 <@Dagmar> "White privilege" is most clearly evident in the tendency of middle-class white people to JUST TRY AND BE REASONABLE WITH EACH OTHER 14:47 < aestetix> heh 14:47 <@Dagmar> ...which is no different than any other racial group out there. 14:47 <@Dagmar> Except they don't make a big fucking _deal_ out of it 14:47 < aestetix> I think the big thing about the Pew study there is that "social" media is not very social at all. 14:47 < aestetix> And I really am struggling to find good reasons for its continued existence. 14:48 <@Dagmar> To blame the evils of class warfare and oligarchyt on 'white privilege' is stupidity on the order ot insanity. 14:48 <@Dagmar> It is literally the fallacy of the undistributed middle 14:48 < RangerZ> no, its on purpose to make it less viable to be addressed 14:48 <@Dagmar> ...and we can't really be sure, but let's jsut say for a moment that the 1% are all white people. Like it even fucking matters. 14:48 < RangerZ> its division politics 14:48 <@Dagmar> THEY ARE NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE 14:49 <@Dagmar> THE REST OF "WHITE PEOPLE" WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THOSE FUCKERS 14:51 <@Dagmar> There's probably a stronger association with the fact that our idols don't yell "honkey" over and over 14:51 <@Dagmar> It can't possibly be that there's a cultural sickness that some minority groups are more infested with than others. Nope. White people ruined everything. 14:52 < RangerZ> lets all be honest 14:52 <@Dagmar> Cults of personality, the worship of mendacity and mediocrity... These things don't really exist... tHey're just figments of our imagineation 14:52 <@Dagmar> It's all because of white people. 14:52 < RangerZ> its ALL Dagmar's fault, he is the "they" we all hear about 14:52 < RangerZ> lol 14:53 <@Dagmar> It's days like this if I could I would become the fucking Ender of Worlds 14:53 <@Dagmar> Turn into Godzilla and stomp some cities _flat_ 14:54 < aestetix> http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/26/pin-drop-app-launches-on-us-app-store-with-smart-new-features/ 14:54 < aestetix> I am not sure why this exists 14:55 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: "good" != "best of breed". When someone with 30+ years of residential and commericial HVAC experience tells me to go with Trane and lists the reaons why I am going to take his advic. 14:55 < aestetix> "an iPhone app and website which lets you save, organise, and share locations " 14:55 < aestetix> is there really a hurting need for that? 14:55 <@Dagmar> Of course not. 14:56 < aestetix> I love how the article mentions that their competitor has raised 11 million 14:56 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: I never said they were bad, just that they are the default name in HVAC 14:56 <@Dagmar> If we wouldn't get sued, I'd be suggesting we make an app called 'FapSquare' 14:56 < aestetix> why does it take 11 million dollars to build that app 14:56 < RangerZ> just like ibm, 'you never get fired for buying trane' 14:56 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Because cross-promotion agreements are expensive 14:57 <@Dagmar> ...and let's face it, that app will never have any word-of-mouth draw to it. 14:57 <@Dagmar> It's fucking boringsauce. 14:57 < aestetix> hah 14:57 < aestetix> I am struggling to find what amazing qualities that app contributes to the world 14:57 <@Dagmar> oddball: You're going to *LOVE* the image that goes with this article http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/24/man-builds-a-suit-to-turn-himself-into-a-human-fireworks-display-lives/?ncid=rss&cps=gravity 14:58 <@Dagmar> It's that crazy fucking scot at it again 14:58 < RangerZ> someone watched a tad too much Saban's shows when they were young 14:58 < RangerZ> where the power rangers would have an explosion like that behind a standing statue 14:58 <@Dagmar> No this is the guy who made the fucking working wolverine claws, and the magnetic boots 14:59 < RangerZ> lol 14:59 < aestetix> When I see something like this (findery.com) I love looking at the team page 14:59 < aestetix> to see just how many idiots work at such a stupid app 15:00 <@Dagmar> Do you like how he made the torso? 15:00 <@Bahhumbug> "Firearms, in particular, should be unloaded and locked in their cases while you are present at PhreakNIC." 15:00 <@Bahhumbug> "should be". 15:00 <@Dagmar> Some people would shape some metal and then weld the halves together 15:00 <@Dagmar> Not this crazy asshole 15:00 <@Dagmar> He makes a flat pillow out of steel and then inflates it with an air compressor 15:04 < aestetix> here's another one 15:04 < aestetix> http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/26/quickpics-is-an-iphone-photo-manager-for-the-more-organized/ 15:04 < aestetix> "However, the problem with tagging is that it requires too much “manual labor” in most cases. Users may try to tag their photos for a while, then just give up due to the sheer numbers of photos being taken." 15:04 < aestetix> That's a nice feature, but how do they make a company out of that 15:10 <@Dagmar> lol 15:11 <@Dagmar> One of my G+ people's response to the In-n-out video: "What, exactly, did I just watch?" 15:11 <@Dagmar> I *did* warn them that it was 24 minutes long 15:12 <@Dagmar> I suspect this might be why the angst dealers like Yahtzee have so much power 15:12 <@Dagmar> We *know* they're not playing favorites. 15:12 <@Dagmar> Yahtzee reviewing a game is like dropping forest animals into a wood chipper 15:13 <@Dagmar> Anything that makes it out in one piece is fearsome and undoubtedly powerful. 15:13 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: I'll probably instruct anyone that I catch carrying after the booze start flowing liberally to stow it, and no one can accuse me of being anti-gun. 15:13 <@Dagmar> oddball++ 15:14 <@oddball> That said, if you're following the law (i.e. not drinking) and you're carrying concealed... then it won't be an issue. Of course, concealed means concealed and I won't know. :) 15:15 < aestetix> vagina 15:15 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: sounds like you're reasonably convinced the policy isn't too draconian 15:15 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: do you think it is? 15:16 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: I don't have a problem with someone saying "oh, large group of drunk people, yeah... let's put the guns away." 15:16 < aestetix> oddball: "every gun is loaded" 15:16 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: I altered the policy from the original proposed one, because that one seemed like too much 15:17 < aestetix> what was the proposed one? 15:17 < aestetix> IE what did you remove 15:17 < RangerZ> ADA mkII 15:17 < RangerZ> and was this the one with the 'womens only room' ? 15:17 < RangerZ> lol 15:17 <@Corydon76-home> I removed a prohibition on the display of any weapon whatsoever 15:17 <@oddball> aestetix: I agree with that, and I really don't think the con should try to mandate the condition on the gun other than "locked in a room/car/etc." 15:17 < aestetix> this is for phreaknic? 15:17 <@Corydon76-home> Yes 15:18 < aestetix> why does phreaknic need to say something about guns? 15:18 < aestetix> or weapons 15:18 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Yeah... that also gets into "what's the definition of a weapon?" 15:18 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: because "Don't be a dick" wasn't enough for some people 15:18 <@oddball> Since, I was openly carrying what some might consider a weapon most of last PN. 15:18 <@brimstone> oddball: kilts aren't a weapon dude 15:19 <@opticron> brimstone, it's what's under the kilt that you have to worry about 15:19 -!- sasquatc2 is now known as sasquatc4 15:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 15:19 <@oddball> aestetix: A group of us like to make a trip to the range that weekend, and there's actually a rather high percentage of geeks that carry. 15:19 < aestetix> oddball: I'm still not sure how that gets into phreaknic needing to say something about it 15:20 <@oddball> brimstone: No, but many would have considered the just barely under 4" fixed blade knife on my belt to be one. 15:20 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:20 <@oddball> aestetix: Because people have to be nannies. 15:20 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I'm of the mind that if I don't see it, it's not a problem (that I have to deal with) 15:20 <@oddball> I would prefer there not to be a rule period about it, since we haven't had an issue for 18 years without one, but... 15:21 <@Wilpig> there is no but to that statement 15:21 <@Wilpig> there hasn't been a problem and no need to introduce rules around a problem that doesn't exist 15:21 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Pretty sure everone saw this knife at one point or another, it was the one we used to slice up the pig. 15:21 <@Wilpig> that imo creates the problem 15:21 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: I don't disagree with you 15:21 <@sasquatc4> grrr, all this time, shoulda used google sooner, always wondered why i idled at ~45c even with a damn water cooler, apparently gotta make sure all the fans are running 100% (at least the radiator ones) 15:22 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Actually, that reminds me... I don't remember the membership voting on these specific rules. Is my memory just bad? 15:22 <@opticron> sasquatc4, yeah, I have the pump running on the CPU fan header and the radiator fan always running full bore 15:22 <@Corydon76-home> No, there was no vote on that 15:23 <@oddball> Wilpig: It's one of those "I don't like it, but not enough to actually fight it." things. 15:23 <@oddball> Ok... just checking... 15:23 <@Corydon76-home> but then again, membership has never voted for more than just "these are the officers" and "this is what's in the bylaws" 15:23 <@oddball> Oh, right... votes are need on changes to our charter, not con rules. 15:23 <@sasquatc4> yea ill have to check it when i get home, cause ive contemplated overclocking, but even at basically stock the proc jumps to 80-90 when running prime95, so i wasnt comfortable with that 15:25 <@oddball> I tend to assume that there's a rule against firearms at most cons. If I had a real issue, I wouldn't go. I know some that don't go to cons for that reason, and I know some that just make sure that they're carrying concealed. 15:27 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: In many cases, it's the venue's prohibition, not even the convention's. 15:27 <@Wilpig> again I see rules for any event as direct evidence of past issues. 15:27 <@oddball> Or the insurance company, if the event has insurance. 15:27 <@Corydon76-home> That's the case for the Republican National Convention in 2016 15:28 <@Corydon76-home> The venue has explicitly prohibited firearms on the premises by con-goers 15:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... republicans have a funny idea of trying to win ohio in 2016 15:28 <@Corydon76-home> Pretty much every event has insurance. You'd be dumb not to 15:28 <@oddball> fuck... that reminds me. There's some debate over whether the new convention center is firearm friendly or not. As far as I can tell, it's not posted, but it's also technically a state owned/run building. 15:29 <@Corydon76-home> It's state-owned, but I don't think it's actually state-run. 15:30 <@Corydon76-home> They tend to create shell corporations to ensure they can do things that wouldn't be allowed if they were actually the government 15:30 <@Corydon76-home> Nashville MTA is that way, for example. 15:30 <@Dagmar> Damn. What was the URL for that article about the pitchforks agaih? 15:30 <@Dagmar> I just closed all my browser tabs like a noob 15:31 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32 <@oddball> hmm... I found something stating that private security isn't allowed to carry... what about everyone else? 15:32 <@Dagmar> where? 15:32 <@oddball> The new convention center. 15:33 <@oddball> Nothing to do with PN. 15:33 <@Dagmar> Ah 15:33 <@oddball> There's been some question about it, and the NRA convention is there in April. 15:33 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: no restore previous session? 15:34 <@oddball> Time to search through your history? 15:34 <@Dagmar> wilpig: I finally scrolled back far enough 15:34 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:34 <@Dagmar> ...and I closed them because there were like 40 of them 15:34 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to reopen them all 15:35 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: so I recall you saying yesterday that 18 year olds are getting HIV because they ignore what their parents say 15:35 < aestetix> ? 15:35 <@Dagmar> I have been hitting the 'net *hard* today trying to identify ~$50 cameras I can get some sort of composite or usb video stream out of 15:35 <@Corydon76-home> You should listen more closely 15:35 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, 40 tabs? I have 253 open currently in 2 FF windows. 15:35 < aestetix> Well you were talking, and then my internet went out for two hours 15:35 <@Corydon76-home> 18 yo's are getting HIV because they're ignoring 20 year old information 15:35 < aestetix> oh right 15:35 < aestetix> that's what it was 15:35 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: You know there's this thing called "bookmarks" you can use to come back to sites later 15:36 <@Dagmar> They use remarkably little memory. 15:36 < aestetix> Are there any other examples of bad things happening because we're ignoring the lessons of the past? 15:36 <@brimstone> i have 1 blank FF tab open 15:36 <@Bahhumbug> My bookmarks are unmanageable at this point. I need to take a good full day to sort them out. Problem of my own making. 15:36 <@brimstone> ready to perform my query 15:36 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 15:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 15:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> crazypants being allowed into PN 15:36 < aestetix> Well besides pretty much every American domestic and foreign policy decision... 15:36 <@brimstone> or ready to quit, as it's almost go time 15:36 <@Bahhumbug> It's easier to keep tabs open until I am done with whatever is on them. 15:36 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Tax policy? 15:36 <@Bahhumbug> And about 30 are protected and persistent for various management tasks. 15:37 * Bahhumbug wonders how hard it would be to trigger her insanity in public, get her to go off the deep end, and then get her removed. 15:38 <@Bahhumbug> (wrt to crazy and PN) 15:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: pornhub is not a 'management task' that is a 'relaxation task' 15:38 <@Dagmar> heheh 15:38 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ|Laptop: Indeed. Which is why I have no such tabs open :) 15:38 <@Wilpig> Bahhumbug: from what has been reported here two beers 15:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: easy, give her some booze, then talk about how feminism is bs 15:38 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: He has you there 15:39 <@Bahhumbug> I _do_ keep various torrent sites open as persistent, however none are porn. 15:39 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:39 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: Oh, that's easy, just give her a few drinks. Problem is getting Fearless Leader to see it as a problem. 15:39 <@Bahhumbug> How he is relevant? 15:39 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: or better yet, just bring up reasons why women are genetically inferior to men 15:39 <@Wilpig> oddball: i've renamed him from fearless leader to witless leader 15:39 <@oddball> Bahhumbug: He's the one that keeps giving her a ride to the meetings? 15:39 <@Bahhumbug> I get her to wig out, someone calls the facility staff, bye bye 15:39 < aestetix> wait why does she need a ride to meetings 15:40 <@Bahhumbug> Well, not _me_. I'm not going since that's not going to end well for at least one person. 15:40 < aestetix> please tell me she has a DUI or something 15:40 <@oddball> Because she doesn't own a car/can't drive. 15:40 <@Dagmar> She probably bit the driving examiner 15:40 < aestetix> huh 15:40 < aestetix> oddball: that seems pretty limiting in Nashville 15:40 <@Bahhumbug> (And before anyone miscontrues that as a threat that "one person" I refer to is _me_. 15:41 <@oddball> aestetix: Yes... yes it is. 15:41 <@oddball> But, of course, she's smug about it and can get a certain someone that isn't sleeping with her to take her places. 15:41 <@Bahhumbug> Please. 15:41 <@Bahhumbug> Don't ever say that again. 15:41 <@Bahhumbug> Sleeping with her? 15:41 * Bahhumbug shudders 15:42 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: jealous? 15:42 <@Dagmar> *shudder* 15:42 -!- aestetix was kicked from #se2600 by Bahhumbug [yes] 15:42 <@Bahhumbug> You'd think he'd have rejoin-on-kick enabled by now. 15:42 <@Dagmar> The only saving grace there is that if something were going on Dru could never again say a single word about any of my bad decisions 15:43 <@Bahhumbug> Ok dude. I don't know you. 15:43 <@Dagmar> ...but AT WHAT COST??!? 15:43 <@Bahhumbug> I don't know any of you. 15:43 <@Bahhumbug> But I can't picture any decision in your past to have been _that_bad 15:43 <@oddball> Dagmar: And yet, he would. 15:43 <@Dagmar> Precisely. 15:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: worry... you might get ruffied at PN by her... 15:43 -!- aestetix [~aestetix@173.203.197.247] has joined #se2600 15:43 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I can assure you, I won't. 15:43 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: just remember to use protection. 15:43 <@Dagmar> ...and even if that did happen, lol 15:43 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: Disable ctcp in your client and then enable rejoin-on-kick. 15:44 <@Dagmar> There's some doubt about whether or not *any* man-made substance can take me down 15:44 * oddball makes note to show up with a polymer baseball bat to test this theory. 15:45 <@Dagmar> Remember at PN3 so many people smoked me up I couldn't even see the keyboard properly anymore... yet after banging on it a few minutes, machines magically started working great again 15:45 < aestetix> oh god 15:45 < aestetix> I have a phone call tomorrow with an engineer named Peter Griffin 15:45 <@Dagmar> heheh 15:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL 15:45 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha 15:45 < aestetix> "how's meg?" 15:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> you knows sad... meg has gone on more dates than crazypants 15:47 <@Bahhumbug> How is this sad? 15:47 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: there's an easy way to fix that 15:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> that at least 1 person has been stupid enough to sleep with her 15:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: even male prostitutes aren't that desperate 15:48 <@Wilpig> RangerZ|Laptop: she was in that threeway with mario and luigi 15:48 <@Dagmar> http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/news/Police-Investigate-Armed-Robbery-At-South-Nashville-Motel-272682441.html 15:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: Police: Motel Robbery Suspects Should Be Considered Armed & Dangerous - NewsChannel5.com (at www.jrn.com) 15:48 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: you said it's been a while right? 15:48 <@Dagmar> The guest didn't talk fast enough 15:48 < aestetix> Maybe you, Wilpig and her could have a threesome 15:48 * Wilpig has plans 15:48 <@Dagmar> I'd have told those guys they didnt' need to tie me up because I'd be keenly interested in seeing if they could actually get the safe. :) 15:49 <@oddball> Hey, I have the ex that I can refer to as "the crazy one," and most of my friends know who I'm talking about. 15:49 < aestetix> Wilpig: do they involve butter? 15:49 < aestetix> Speaking of butter: Corydon76-home have you ever used food during sex? 15:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/28/robbers-used-backhoe-to-g_n_3667916.html 15:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Robbers Used Backhoe to Grab an ATM From a Bank: NYPD (at www.huffingtonpost.com) 15:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats my 2nd fav. bank robbery story 15:53 <@oddball> Ah... the old "fuck it, we'll deal with the lock at home" technique. 15:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> every few years, you hear of it being attempted in a new city 15:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> my fav. was one that happened back home.... a bank near the mall was closed for xmas and the weekend, and christmas eve was a mon, so the bank was closed sat/sun/mon and the robbers put up a sign on the bank deposit box saying 'out of service' and then they put a giant box next to it, and chained it to the bank wall, and put on it 'temporary deposit box' 15:56 <@shapr> yargh 15:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> all the mall stores deposited their pre-xmas sales into it 15:56 <@shapr> javascript 15:56 <@oddball> bwahahahahaha! 15:56 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Great idea! 15:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> then they just came and took the box home on tue night 15:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 15:58 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 16:00 <@Dagmar> That reminds me I need to site-survey the con hotel 16:00 <@Dagmar> I haz my sign layouts done, and the materials for final production ordered 16:01 <@Dagmar> Next it'll be time to look into deploying the traditional "Facebook Hacks" 16:01 <@Dagmar> ...and set up a bogus webserver with bogus DNS and bogus certs that just says "WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU IGNORE THE WARNINGS ABOUT THE BAD CERTS, MORON?" 16:02 <@Bahhumbug> heh 16:02 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:05 -!- Nexus_L [~mike@cpe-174-100-54-48.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 16:21 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 16:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 16:24 < aestetix> I guess Corydon76-home won't answer my questions anymore 16:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> for the betterment of the channel 16:24 <@opticron> he probably just put you on ignore 16:25 <@Bahhumbug> Doubt it. More likely just a mental ignore block. 16:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m-e4PgiVfM 16:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Welcome to Tumblr! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 16:26 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:26 <@Wilpig> uhoh 16:28 < aestetix> apparently thunderbird supports chat 16:28 < aestetix> why would someone use thunderbird for that 16:29 <@Wilpig> RangerZ|Laptop: that went downhill so fast 16:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> yep 16:39 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug wins. 16:40 <@Wilpig> does Bahhumbug ever really win? 16:40 <@Wilpig> or any of us for that matter 16:42 < aestetix> Wow. I just realized it is now legal for people to drink who were not born when Kokomo came out. 16:48 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: so in your book, what does "shameless" mean? 16:49 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 16:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 16:49 <@Corydon76-home> Dictionaries have definitions: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shameless 16:49 < aestetix> Yes, but I'd never take away your ability to form a definition of your own. 16:55 <@Dagmar> I would. 16:58 <@shapr> klixa: WASSUP? 16:59 -!- ignotus-sdf [~ignotus@66.223.56.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:25 <@klixa> hey shapr 17:25 <@klixa> i got a glockenspiel today 17:44 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 17:45 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Client Quit] 18:15 < aestetix> wtf 18:16 < aestetix> why is snapchat worth $10 billion 18:16 <@brimstone> almost a whole Tim Horton's 18:17 < RangerZ> aestetix: because of bubble-economics 18:17 < aestetix> maybe it shows my age 18:17 < RangerZ> and companies haven't been _investing_ their profits for ~7 years 18:17 < RangerZ> so they all have giant fucking bank accounts 18:17 < aestetix> but i would much rather have a lower valuation that was stable and guranteed 18:17 < RangerZ> and want to 'buy' 'the next big thing' 18:18 < RangerZ> instead of canibilize their own products 18:18 < RangerZ> if MS was _really_ smart, they would release a kernel that could run posix/unix/bsd code but also MS code 18:18 < RangerZ> enable command line terminal, and have the windows UI 18:19 < RangerZ> but that would harm their Office business or 'something' "possibly" 18:19 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: So... it turns out that if you're flying a Viper and you umm... accidentally clip a Sidewinder, the Sidewinder explodes. ;) 18:19 < RangerZ> lol 18:20 < RangerZ> speaking of Vipers ... and crashing... 18:20 < RangerZ> I saw the aftermath of a brand new viper pulling off the lot, and being Tboned by a junker pickup truck 18:21 < RangerZ> people didn't even see if the driver was alright, we just stood there in a minute of silence for the car 18:21 <@Dagmar> OUch 18:21 < RangerZ> LOL 18:21 < RangerZ> like the car was barely 'on' the street 18:21 < RangerZ> but its front tire had touched the road, so it was 'his' 18:22 -!- Neoteric [~timball@coronal-mass-ejection.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:23 < RangerZ> i was like 13~14 at the time, and walking to the mall... and just saw the viper basically pull a Demolition-Man car crash ... the center bubble popped out of the car and the rest of the car said 'fuck this... we want to be scrap now' 18:23 <@Dagmar> heh 18:23 -!- Neoteric [~timball@coronal-mass-ejection.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 18:23 < RangerZ> Neoteric: I'm sorry, we are a CME free channel 18:31 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:32 -!- Vyrus001_ [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has joined #se2600 18:33 < aestetix> hi Vyrus001_ 18:34 < RangerZ> http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/14256/004.0/compressed/llfaf_ch004_007.jpg?v=11394573528 hahaha why does that sound like something I'm going to hear next nashville 2600 18:37 -!- Shadow405 [~shadow404@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 18:37 -!- Corydon76-work [~quassel@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-work] by ChanServ 18:37 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Shadow404, Vyrus001, @eryc 18:37 -!- eryc_ [~eric@internetjanitor.com] has joined #se2600 18:42 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Corydon76-home, timoguin 18:43 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:44 -!- Netsplit over, joins: timoguin 19:05 <@sasquatc4> man, i havent had to actually deal with comcast in years, they have gotten super shitty 19:20 < RangerZ> yep 19:20 < RangerZ> monoplies do that 19:21 < RangerZ> they at least pretended they weren't one before, but now the FCC is going to let them buy TW 19:22 < RangerZ> b/c... fuck the customer... we at the FCC can't do anything to protect the consumer when it might upset comcast and TW who are the companies throwing FCC chairs 70k$ dinners to celebrate their accomplishments 19:22 < RangerZ> https://phreaknic.info/uninstall.php 19:22 < RangerZ> fuck they left it.... 19:22 < RangerZ> well... there goes the page... :/ 19:23 <@Dagmar> What on earth are you talking about? 19:23 <@sasquatc4> yea, comcast advertised me a rate of 64$ for 50mbps, im currently on 50mbps+phone cause it was cheaper at the time, of course its basically the same price if i cancel phone anyway 19:23 <@sasquatc4> so tried to switch, holy mother of god 19:23 < RangerZ> just poking fun, lol 19:23 <@Dagmar> Oh okay 19:24 < RangerZ> sasquatc4: i had the phone/tv/internet 50 for 99$ when I moved in 19:24 < RangerZ> went to 139 , after the first year or so.. and I stayed 19:25 < RangerZ> and then it went to 169 or somehting fucked up 19:25 < RangerZ> b/c they started charing me for all the equipment 19:25 < RangerZ> and I was like... nope 19:25 < RangerZ> 70$ now for 50, and i'm done 19:26 < RangerZ> I'd like to have cable TV, but their prices are silly b/c i would need "digital" channels to get the few channels I actually want to watch 19:26 <@Dagmar> Oops. 19:26 <@Dagmar> Uber is about to disappear. 19:26 < RangerZ> ? 19:26 <@sasquatc4> yea, i think mine is like 75, i have no use for tv since i get every channel +vod+ppv+ipvod+netflix for free 19:26 <@Dagmar> http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/26/6067663/this-is-ubers-playbook-for-sabotaging-lyft 19:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: This is Ubers playbook for sabotaging Lyft | The Verge (at www.theverge.com) 19:27 < RangerZ> ohh yeah 19:27 < RangerZ> they are being fucking dirty 19:27 <@Dagmar> That's rather illegal. 19:27 <@Dagmar> Someone's liable to wind up in actual jail for that, because that's not just "competing" 19:28 < RangerZ> fuck... the entire thing is illegal 19:28 < RangerZ> we can't have legal innovation in the US 19:28 <@Dagmar> Ordering and then mass-cancelling rides would be very easily described as interference in commerce 19:28 < RangerZ> what do you think the legal system is for 19:32 < aestetix> making sure the rich get more money 19:33 < RangerZ> nah 19:33 < RangerZ> to make sure the poor don't become rich 19:33 < RangerZ> thats the bigger threat 19:33 < RangerZ> the rich can hire people to make them more money 19:34 < RangerZ> so this video on the verge from the article Dagmar linked, i think is even cooler... they are solving lazy eye with oculus rift 19:34 < RangerZ> giving people 3D vision for the first time, by training the lazy eye to work properly 19:35 < RangerZ> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgregor/2014/08/26/uber-trials-fast-food-delivery-service-uberfresh/ 19:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Uber Trials Fast Food Delivery Service 'UberFRESH' - Forbes (at www.forbes.com) 19:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> so... no new updates https://phreaknic.info/node/1/speakers 19:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speakers | PhreakNIC (at phreaknic.info) 19:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> if this site is fucking live... it should at least have RSS feed 19:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> then GateKeeper could actually post when there are updates 20:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> so Burger king is becoming a Canadian company to dodge taxes :/ 20:15 <@notlarry> Ok, my Director sent out an email from our group mailbox to everyone in our group asking why something did not get done. His email is set to request a reply when read. Now my group mailbox is being spammed by every single person who read this email. My response to why it didn't get done, I lost it in my email... 20:19 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, sorry, no. I am not having any resource of mine traced to actually _going_ to that site, let alone pulling an rss feed fom it. 20:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> notlarry: stop being a smartass 20:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> you're going to make vanderbilt make a campus wide policy on replies or something 20:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> or hand sanitizers be installed every 4' 20:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: lol... 20:24 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: very valid points... but still... if they are going to use that crap, at least make it do fancy things too 20:27 <@Bahhumbug> RSS should be enabled out of the box on drupal. 20:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> they probably thought it was a security threat 20:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c they were so concerned with that... 20:39 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, of course! That's it. 20:39 <@Bahhumbug> I should have given them more credit. 20:39 * Bahhumbug wipes up the dripping sarcasm 20:40 * RangerZ hands you a 2nd bucket 20:44 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:45 <@Dagmar> Jesus 20:45 <@Dagmar> http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/26/seagate-ships-an-8-terabyte-hard-drive-perfect-for-all-of-your-totally-legal-and-not-pirated-stuff/?utm_campaign=fb&ncid=fb 20:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much.... 20:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> with helium, and other tech, they 'could' get up to like 20tb now 20:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> but so expensive... b/c it barely ever actually works 'properly' 21:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> I still want my quarts crystal memory storage... 21:14 <@Dagmar> I *love* storing EIGHT TERABYTES on unstable media! 21:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> i mean... what could go wrong with writing the data over itself 2x to increase density 21:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> at that price/risk... I don't see why 2x 4TB drives aren't better 21:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> unless you are shipping it into space 21:22 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 21:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 21:23 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 21:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 21:36 < RangerZ> http://www.zdnet.com/vmware-buys-into-docker-containers-7000032947/ 21:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: VMware buys into Docker containers | ZDNet (at www.zdnet.com) 21:37 < RangerZ> interesting 21:40 <@Dagmar> Sure. They're more than happy to sell people a GUI to manage something they didn't have to invent and is fully documented 22:04 -!- Vyrus001_ [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:05 -!- Vyrus001 [~Vyrus001@209.159.137.117] has joined #se2600 22:10 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:12 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 22:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 22:13 < RangerZ> wow... someone recorded the sound of the shooting in ferguson 22:14 < RangerZ> but... it was probably a sexting message... 22:14 < RangerZ> lol 22:17 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Client Quit] 22:38 < RangerZ> anyone here using docker ? 23:16 < npcomp> RangerZ: played with it a bit. 23:16 < npcomp> brimstone: I think it totally into it. 23:18 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmivjysylexnheiv] has joined #se2600 23:18 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmivjysylexnheiv] has quit [Changing host] 23:18 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 23:18 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Changing host] 23:18 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmivjysylexnheiv] has joined #se2600 23:18 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by rajaniemi.freenode.net 23:25 < aestetix> anyone know if kinkos can perforate things for you? 23:26 < aestetix> nevrmind 23:47 < aestetix> RangerZ: http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/2enu5q/the_dirty_professor/ you'll like this 23:53 < aestetix> you know 23:53 < aestetix> If I had gender dysphoria, I could never transition to being a female. If for no other reason, sitting in a toilet stall and hearing some woman take a loud shit. 23:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 23:55 <@Dagmar> I hate to say this, but I'm going to have to post to the Elite forums about the auto-dock 23:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> the need for one? 23:55 < aestetix> seriously that would be revolting 23:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: ever lived with a girl? 23:56 < aestetix> Like if I walked into the bathroom right after a really really hot girl 23:56 <@Dagmar> No, that the one that exists is ass and was appropriate in 1984 on a Commodore 64, but we are *long past that point* 23:56 < aestetix> And then had to listen to her drop an h-bomb 23:56 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: yes 23:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c you'll hear that 23:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 23:56 < aestetix> no 23:56 <@Dagmar> I don't care if it costs as much as a C4 turretted pulse cannon. 23:56 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: that's why you talk to your cat while she's in the toilet 23:56 <@Dagmar> There needs to be an auto-dock computer that is *graceful* 23:57 <@Dagmar> This is math the PC can do now _easily_ 23:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, one that even docks you automatically from the outside 23:57 < aestetix> or even worse.... walking into the bathroom with two hot chicks 23:57 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: All these ships you see flying in and out of the stations at crazy angles... that's the auto-dock 23:57 < aestetix> they take the stalls to each side of you, and proceed to go to town 23:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> was it ED or SC , that said that was going to be a module that 'nice' systems would have 23:58 < aestetix> Corydon76-work: have you ever seen a woman take a shit? 23:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> i'm sure he has, he probably stumbled across a german website in the 90s 23:59 <@Dagmar> I'm literally running laps between two systems making about 14000cr per round trip, about to upgrade again (need more capital than just 20,000cr if I expect to do something *usefuL* with 32 cargo capacity)... 23:59 <@Dagmar> ...and the auto-dock is just *glaringly* crude --- Log closed Wed Aug 27 00:00:08 2014