--- Log opened Mon Aug 25 00:00:29 2014
00:05 <@notlarry> Setting all the alarms at work to "Never Gonna Give You Up" tomorrow.
00:09 < RangerZ> Dagmar: we should invite phil fish to speak at PN
00:09 <@Dagmar> Hell no
00:09 < RangerZ> ...thats not trolling at all...
00:12 < RangerZ> http://phreaknic.info/pn18/
00:12 < RangerZ> who broke it ?
00:12 < RangerZ> lol
00:12 <@Dagmar> Huh?
00:12 < RangerZ> thats the old link
00:12 < RangerZ> now its just the root, that works
00:13 <@Dagmar> Why would hte _current_ site need an archive location?
00:13 < RangerZ> also... I thought we had a list of speakers
00:13 < RangerZ> b/c TBD isn't going to make me drive the 5min out of my way to stop at PN
00:16 <@Bahhumbug> Lies.
00:16 <@Bahhumbug> You know you want to hang out with crazybitch.
00:17 <@Dagmar> Well, the list of speakers probably isnt' up because of all the time spent worrying about drama
00:17 <@notlarry> What drama?
00:17 <@Dagmar> Oh the drama we caused by smashing the website. *snicker*
00:18 <@Bahhumbug> You damned hackers.
00:19 <@notlarry> ikr
00:20 <@Dagmar> I need more pictures of Dicks
00:20 <@Dagmar> So far I've got Dick Cheney, Richard Nixon, Dick Cavette, and Dick Trickle
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00:21 <@Dagmar> Oooh Dick Van Dyke
00:21 <@Dagmar> I have to say, this is some rather dodgy Google searching
00:23 < aestetix> dick clarke
00:23 < aestetix> richard cheese
00:23 <@Bahhumbug> Here ya go: https://www.google.com/search?q=weev&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=SH8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Qbr6U-uCIcn3yQSUpoDwBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1480&bih=744
00:23 < aestetix> dick costello
00:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: weev - Google Search (at www.google.com)
00:23 < aestetix> dick tracy
00:23 <@Bahhumbug> All the pictures of a dick you could want.
00:25 <@notlarry> I have a vague memory of a woman calling me to drop her internet because they could not afford a new cheerleader outfit for her daughter so she turned to webcrawler for help.
00:26 < RangerZ> dick clark
00:27 < RangerZ> damn.. wasn't scrolled all the way to the bottom
00:27 <@Dagmar> Dick Tracy is a good one
00:27 < RangerZ> moby dick
00:27 <@Dagmar> People have to be able to _recognize_ them so obscure Dicks are out
00:28 < RangerZ> http://www.famousbirthdays.com/names/dick.html
00:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Famous People Named Dick - Famous Dicks | Famous Birthdays (at www.famousbirthdays.com)
00:28 <@Dagmar> Tell me you didn't feel a little bit of concern before you clicked 'Search'
00:29 < RangerZ> i was REALLY accurate in my search query
00:29 < RangerZ> but yes
00:29 <@Dagmar> heheh
00:29 < RangerZ> Dick Butkus
00:29 <@Dagmar> Already got him
00:29 <@Dagmar> Nine Dicks will have to be enough
00:29 < RangerZ> Bill O'Reilly
00:29 <@Dagmar> HIs name isn't Dick
00:29 < RangerZ> i'm sorry... thats just being mean
00:30 < RangerZ> Richard “Tricky Dick” Nixon
00:30 < RangerZ> interesting
00:30 < RangerZ> forgot his nick name
00:31 < RangerZ> that would be the 'i don't get it....' picture
00:31 < RangerZ> ...OHHH...
00:31 < RangerZ> lol
00:32 < RangerZ> ok chrome.. I know I have 16GB of ram... but why do you need to eat up 1gb of it when you are closed
00:32 <@Dagmar> Yes, I've already got the "He's a dick" angle covered
00:32 < RangerZ> yes... hangouts it up and running
00:32 < RangerZ> but still
00:32 <@notlarry> RangerZ: the dick cache...
00:33 < RangerZ> you should just make a campus wide share named: "PICS OF DICKS"
00:33 < RangerZ> I once found the shared drive of the dean at my undergrad
00:34 < RangerZ> they didn't have the CSIS dept's IT run their network for them... their own loss, lol
00:34 < RangerZ> it was accessiable from the _entire_ campus
00:42 <@notlarry> Wow, forgot, we opened for Dick Dale once, true story.
00:46 <@notlarry> wow, Dick Hyman, so close.
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02:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_8RHSyS14
02:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: What REALLY Happened With Phil Fish and Zoe Quinn - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: so apparently 4chan/v/ is pissed that its getting blamed for the plane bomb threat and phil fish
02:05 <@Dagmar> They should probably take steps to do something about the kiddies pretending to speak for Anonymous and doing stupid shit
02:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah
02:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think gaming media is actually due for a fairly big shake up
02:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c it has something that very few other media formats has
02:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> wide range of youtube/twitch streamers who _don't_ give a fuck about 'access'
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02:10 <@Dagmar> I at least partially agree with that
02:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> sure there are some that do
02:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> but you really only need a small % who are willing to call out BS, to keep the rest in check
02:12 <@Dagmar> Im' still wondering what Five Guys has to do with any of it
02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> they explain that in that video
02:12 <@Dagmar> Im' hoping someone will
02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> apparently the girl cheated on her ex with 5 guys,
02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> and now he calls her 5 guys with fries
02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
02:13 <@Dagmar> Oh dawyum
02:13 <@Dagmar> lol
02:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> its so simple
02:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> but so funny
02:28 <@Dagmar> Heh.
02:29 <@Dagmar> After some quick Google searching, I'm not sure you're *allowed* to be angry about nudes being posted when you, yourself have shot seven or eight sets of them for multiple websites
02:29 <@Dagmar> ...and I suspect some other people are missing the point entirely that they did so
02:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> she's just upset she wasn't paid for them
02:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats all
02:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> heeh
02:30 <@Dagmar> Could be, but that's not really how those sites work
02:30 <@Dagmar> If she was wanting a per-viewer payment, she should have gone with Zivity
02:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> I like how you know the company name, their address , name of the PR director, and have his personal cell
02:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
02:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> like... Porn... I got this...
02:32 <@Dagmar> I didnt' even know who the hell she was
02:32 <@Dagmar> I google... "Hm... She's halfway cute. I like the hair."
02:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol... no i meant the pay per view info, lol
02:33 <@Dagmar> Oh for Zivity?
02:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno... that and your ringtone
02:33 <@Dagmar> Well, I don't have quite that information but I do know the girl who actually built and runs the site
02:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> just made me chuckle
02:33 <@Dagmar> I could call her and get it I suppose
02:33 <@Dagmar> She's a sweetie
02:34 <@Dagmar> The ringtone is a whole nother form of entertainment for me
02:34 <@Dagmar> BY the way... The girl that was doing the weird thing with the masks?
02:34 <@Dagmar> I caught her doing something weird again
02:34 <@Dagmar> DIdn't record it.
02:34 <@Dagmar> She was blowing a yard gnome.
02:35 <@Dagmar> I'm like, "Okay, that's strange as hell, but it's not quite what I was looking for."
02:35 <@Dagmar> Seemed a bit too overt somehow
02:36 <@Dagmar> ...and in case you're wondering _how_, she'd apparently attached a rubber dildo to a yard gnome
02:36 <@Dagmar> ...an actual, honest to god, ceramic yard gnome.
02:36 <@notlarry> Dagmar: That seems, well, a little, oh fuck it, I'll be right back...
02:36 <@Dagmar> heh
02:37 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: The thing that drew this girl to my attention is that one of my fellow "weird chasers" tapped me over IRC a few months back and demanded I visit some URL
02:37 <@Dagmar> Like, _demanded_. "YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS."
02:37 <@Dagmar> Would't explain it because it was unexplainable
02:37 <@Dagmar> Some girl on MFC was dancing around in the nude, with one of those horse masks on
02:37 <@Dagmar> ...but not just the horse mask.
02:38 <@Dagmar> Over her shoulders like some deranged armor, on one shoulder she had a bear mask, and on the other, a rabbit or something
02:38 <@Dagmar> ...and she was waving around an axe.
02:38 <@notlarry> Are you sure it wasn't just sjp?
02:38 <@Dagmar> sjp?
02:38 <@Dagmar> ...but it was _really_ freaking strange.
02:39 <@Dagmar> I couldn't have explained it at the time if I'd tried
02:39 <@Dagmar> So... Dude found a good one
02:39 <@Dagmar> Nudity aside, that was freaking _bizarre_
02:39 <@notlarry> nude woman with horse face, Sarah Jessica Parker comes to mind...
02:39 <@Dagmar> So every so often I go hit up her site again in case she's doing something incredibly bizarre again
02:39 <@notlarry> Sorry, that was uncalled for.
02:40 <@Dagmar> Just because I was thinking to myself "No one will believe I saw this"
02:40 <@Dagmar> And then last week... blowing a yard gnome.
02:40 <@Dagmar> That's not something I can really tote around to weird people out with
02:41 <@Dagmar> the nude dancing could easily be argued as "art"
02:41 <@Dagmar> DAMN STRANGE art
02:41 <@Dagmar> The fact that she was nude was an almost trivial detail
02:41 <@notlarry> "The gnomes are cumming, the gnomes are cumming!"
02:41 <@Dagmar> I want a bit fo video that I can show someone that will be weird enough to make them _ignore the nude woman_
02:42 <@notlarry> Dagmar: Did you ever see the movie "
02:42 <@Dagmar> Holy Motors?
02:42 <@notlarry> "The Gods Must Be Crazy?"
02:42 <@Dagmar> Oh yes. Long long ago
02:42 <@Dagmar> On VHS even
02:42 <@notlarry> That was a porno
02:43 <@Dagmar> Umm.. no. I did not see a porno version of it because I was like ten
02:43 <@notlarry> And someone looked at it in the editing room and went "wait, we have a plot here. A weird plot, but a plot"
02:43 <@Dagmar> HAHAH]
02:43 <@Dagmar> So you're saying htey were making a porno and cut all the porn parts out in the editing room?
02:43 <@notlarry> I'm saying, If you watch it with the information I just gave you you will see the signs.
02:43 <@Dagmar> lol
02:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh notlarry, you were the subject of discussion earlier, about your banning crazypants, lol
02:43 <@notlarry> I'm saying it has that feel, yeah.
02:44 <@notlarry> I banned crazypants?
02:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats one hell of a long porno originally if the 'acting' is a movie long
02:44 <@Dagmar> THe night she came in here and tried to start a fight with everyone while we were all AFK
02:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> anarchival
02:45 <@notlarry> I do not recall. I must have googled "how to ban this crazy bitch before she finds out where I keep my coffin...
02:45 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: I kinda want to take Dru aside and say "Look dude... You know my history. I am not even humoring the idea of sticking my dick in that. That's *how* crazy the person you're listening to is."
02:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno... part of me wonders about the two of them...
02:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> he seems to be the only guy she doesn't see as "her dagmar" or hate
02:46 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: So the wrist walkies are in theory charging, but I'm not sure the batteries have any reasonable capacity left
02:46 <@notlarry> the NotWife got the impression from crazypants that phreaknic was all about the porn and the subjegation of women. I explained to her the only porn I ever saw at phreaknic was gay porn. Seems gay porn is something my wife is ok with.
02:47 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: She definitely has a skewed perception of reality
02:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> notlarry: well you know what to do for your next wedding an. just invite Corydon over
02:47 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm astonished you let her near your wife
02:47 <@notlarry> Reset the throttle position sensor on my motorycle today dag. The changed the oil. Then I was too fucking tired to ride.
02:47 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Just rub it in
02:47 <@notlarry> Dagmar: didnn't, let her see some of the irc logs.
02:48 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: ...although I found another actually _really_ well-kept 2009 Kymco on Craigslist today for $900
02:48 <@Dagmar> It was tempting
02:48 <@Dagmar> It would even come with a little aluminum rack
02:48 <@notlarry> You should really give a buell a test drive.
02:48 <@Dagmar> I could literally go over there, pay the $900, remove the bumper from my car to mount the thing, and then tote it home
02:48 <@Dagmar> I will stick with twist & go
02:48 <@notlarry> I'm telling you. A 360lb motorcycle with a 1200cc vtwin.
02:49 <@Dagmar> Twist & flip over isn't what I'm interested in
02:49 <@notlarry> Yeah, even with my weight I think it could bring the front up in every gear.
02:50 <@Dagmar> Understand that I'm serious when I say, I am *not* getting on the interstate with the assholes in this city on a two-wheeled vehicle, unless I am allowed to mount a turret on the fucking thing
02:50 <@Dagmar> If I can somehow *shoot* any fucker that comes too close, then I'd consider it
02:51 <@Dagmar> The number of times the motherfuckers around here nearly ran me over on regular, "slow driving" streets is far too many
02:52 <@Dagmar> To get me on the interstate would require a high-velocity weapon that can fire armor-piercing rounds so that I can just burn a hole and drive through the wreckage
02:53 <@Dagmar> Oh I should bring this little bluetooth thing I got to the next meeting
02:53 <@Dagmar> It's actually pretty cool, especially considering I paid $10 for it
02:54 <@Dagmar> An old pair of multimedia speakers you can just cut a hole in the woofer, mount this thing, feed it 12v and connect the inputs to it
02:54 <@Dagmar> Instant Bluetooh speakers
02:55 <@Dagmar> I am seriously considering mounting it in the Altec Lansing set I have lying around doing nothing
02:55 <@Dagmar> It would just be annoying to waste 5.1-capable speakers on this
02:56 <@Dagmar> The amps on these things tend to run at 12v or 9v internally so... dead easy mod
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07:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:56 <@Wilpig> holy shit, some dude in the office next door took an irish shower this morning
07:56 <@Wilpig> I wonder how many bottles of cologne it took to make a stink cloud so heavy it's infiltrating our office this thoroughly
08:00 <@Wilpig> so Dolemite, thoughts on the new doctor?
08:11 <@Dolemite> The jury is still out
08:11 < aestetix> what is an irish shower?
08:11 <@Dolemite> booze
08:11 < aestetix> ahhh
08:11 < aestetix> figures
08:12 <@Bahhumbug> No water, just cologne or similar.
08:13 < aestetix> Is that like how a hippie shower is patchouli?
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @lists ud
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> sigh
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @list ud
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm, thought I had that loaded
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @list
08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Admin, Alias, Assorted, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, Currency, Filter, Format, Games, Geekquote, GeoIP, Google, Insult, Internet, IsItDown, Lart, Limiter, MLB, Math, MeetBot, MessageParser, Misc, Network, News, NickCapture, Nickometer, Note, Notify, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, Reply, RootWarner, Scheduler, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Status, Stock, (1 more message)
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @more
08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: String, Time, Todo, TopNews, Topic, TraktTV, URL, Unix, UrbanDictionary, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, Wikipedia, WolframAlpha, and Zipinfo
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> Meh
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @urbandictionary irish shower
08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: irish shower :: Overapplication of cologne, often to cover up the smell of liquor that persists while intoxicated. Usually upwards of 8 sprays. [ex:] "The room always reeks of cologne after McCoy takes his Irish shower" [/ex] | The use of deoderant and/or cologne to cover up lack of proper showering. [ex:] Woke up late for work so I had to go the Irish shower route. [/ex]
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @alias add ud urbandictionary $0
08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: By your command
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @ud irish shower
08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: shower :: Device that men use to wack off while at thier in-laws house [ex:] i masturbate so much in the shower when it rains i get a hard on [/ex] | A great place to jerk off when your a teenager and have little privacy. [ex:] Man i have a throbbing erection and i really need somewhere to explode my load! Hmmmm the house if full of people...."I'm taking a shower!"Alright party (5 more messages)
08:14 <@Bahhumbug> That's better.
08:15 < aestetix> uh
08:15 <@Wilpig> I may have to escape down to the dc to lose this coud
08:15 <@Wilpig> cloud*
08:15 < aestetix> Wilpig: just fart
08:15 <@Wilpig> wouldn't touch this
08:18 < aestetix> hmmm
08:18 < aestetix> I think I am gonna get a pager
08:19 <@Bahhumbug> The 80s called and want their tech back.
08:19 < aestetix> lol
08:19 < aestetix> Pagers are recieve only, so the NSA can't track coordinates.
08:22 <@Bahhumbug> You keep on thinking that.
08:22 < aestetix> How could they track it?
08:22 <@Bahhumbug> While that was true at one point, who knows what they're doing these days.
08:23 <@Bahhumbug> You're assuming that modern pagers haven't had their basic tech altered.
08:23 <@Bahhumbug> (It's incredibly unlikely that such a thing is possible, but I still won't take the bet)
08:24 < aestetix> There are other advantages to a pager as well.
08:24 < aestetix> I think "smart" phones feed an unhealthy addiction.
08:25 < aestetix> I'd be interested in stats on how often someone will refresh their twitter feed over and over and over until something useful looking pops up
08:26 <@Wilpig> if you were waiting on me to do that. you'd be waiting a hell of a long time
08:27 < aestetix> Wilpig: I've seen folks do it on the train, in a waiting room, etc
08:27 < aestetix> Any time when there's not some immediate stimulus.
08:28 <@Wilpig> speaking of immediate stimulus, time for a little more bravely default
08:28 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: People are morons.
08:28 <@Bahhumbug> That's what it all comes down to.
08:28 <@Bahhumbug> Personally, I'd rather read a book than use a smartphone and waste my life on twitter.
08:29 <@Bahhumbug> Of course I would also rather staple my nuts to a tree trunk than use twitter at all.
08:30 * Wilpig hands Bahhumbug a stapler
08:30 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: yep
08:30 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: life has been so much better without twitter
08:31 <@Bahhumbug> Wilpig: I don't use twitter nor do I have a desire to do so.
08:31 * Bahhumbug gives the stapler back
08:48 <@Wilpig> come on... be a sport.
08:51 <@Bahhumbug> Can I use it to staple weev's junk to a tree trunk?
08:51 <@Bahhumbug> And hand him a dull, rusty butter knife?
08:53 <@Wilpig> i'd be fine with that
08:57 <@Bahhumbug> Excellent.
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10:21 < aestetix> so nice to wake up to our jobs server being down
10:21 <@Bahhumbug> Stop breaking shit.
10:22 < aestetix> right
10:24 < frsilent> looks like someone....
10:25 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/sys/4623429627.html <-- shitload of hardware for cheap
10:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: IBM Netfinity 4500R 2-CPU, 4GB RAM Server & EXP300 (RAID 5) SCSI Drive (at nashville.craigslist.org)
10:27 < aestetix> is it sad that 4 gigs sounds tiny to me?
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10:29 <@Bahhumbug> 4g maxes that chassis out.
10:30 <@Dagmar> Interesting
10:30 <@Dagmar> Someone on Craigslist is selling a crapton of WRT54G routers for $20 each
10:31 <@Bahhumbug> I bought 5 spares a few months ago just to keep 'em around here.
10:31 <@Bahhumbug> $25 each, so roughly the same price.
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10:33 <@Wilpig> gotta love the confidence you feel when you open a replacement motherboard to find pieces of the motherboard rolling around freely in the static bag
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10:34 <@Bahhumbug> heh
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10:34 <@Bahhumbug> You need to stop breaking shit, too.
10:34 * Bahhumbug hides
10:34 <@Wilpig> the best thing I can say for this is "dude you got a dell"
10:34 <@Dagmar> Try opening them with your bare hands instead of a crobar
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10:36 <@Wilpig> where the fuck is kaleem this morning?
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10:39 <@Wilpig> anyone know who got ahold of the pn twitter account yesterday that went in and started following everyone that had ever followed pn ? I got a handful of texts from confused people asking wtf I was doing
10:40 <@Dagmar> I can think of two people who woulnd't know that's pointless
10:42 <@Wilpig> it went from a few follows to 200+ I went and checked the authorized apps to make sure it hadn't been cracked into and nothign new was there so someone logged into the webinterface to do it
10:42 <@Dagmar> Ask on the mailing list
10:43 <@Wilpig> I can't. my posts aren't allowed
10:43 <@Dagmar> *Someone* is probably snorting some SEO bullshit
10:43 <@Dagmar> They should be now
10:43 <@Wilpig> just pass along the message from me "I don't know what your intent was but you did manage to confuse several people"
10:46 <@Dagmar> If theres a useful reason to follow a bajillion people on Twitter, I'd like to hear it
10:46 <@Dagmar> So I'm asking on the list
10:46 <@Dickie> "I was followed by someone on Twitter. HOW MINDBOGGLING"
10:46 <@Dagmar> Well, It's a freaking twitter account
10:47 <@Dagmar> ...for an *event*
10:47 <@Dagmar> It doesn't need to listen, it only needs to broadcast.
10:47 <@Wilpig> there is only ONE reason I can think of and it is so fucking remote I dare to speak it
10:47 <@Wilpig> so I'm not going to where there might be ears
10:47 <@Dickie> The Jews
10:47 <@Dickie> I was thinking the same thing
10:48 <@Wilpig> back to my motherbaord
10:56 <@shapr> yay! I have a face!
10:56 <@Wilpig> I wouldn't celebrate it. there is still time to get a better one
11:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.858347-Zoe-Quinn-and-the-surrounding-controversy
11:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> so if that isn't interesting
11:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> apparently other major game sites have banned discussion of this topic
11:12 <@Wilpig> heh. I think that is what I read about on 4chan
11:12 <@Wilpig> if it is, meh. she isn't that hot
11:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much
11:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> but lets be honest, we both probably see more women than game journalists do
11:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> tumblr and a college aren't exactly wastelands like most devs studios are
11:15 <@Wilpig> if it is the one i'm thinking of. she's bitching about some nudes going around?
11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, but thats not what this is about
11:16 < aestetix> I should not click, but I'm going to anyways
11:16 <@Wilpig> the funny part of it was she knew damn well they would get around when she took them cause they are in the suicide girls style
11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: ohh its about SJW
11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> and all that
11:16 < aestetix> I figured
11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> but she's the girl being called 5 guys and fries
11:16 < aestetix> ouch
11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c she slept with 5 guys when she had a b/f
11:17 < aestetix> you know
11:17 < aestetix> sexism goes both ways
11:17 < aestetix> is all I'm sayin
11:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> just think about 'women power' songs... imagine a guy going to his ex's car and smashing it with a baseball bat and keying it
11:18 < aestetix> I'm a fan of women power if it means women have equal legal rights to men
11:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> no one in their right mind would EVER think that song would get airplay
11:18 < aestetix> not otherwise
11:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> though TBH... i don't care much about lyrics to songs, or music in general, so i'm probably being over broad with the term 'women power' songs, b/c I can't even think of the name or artist who performs the song about her trashing her ex's car so he won't cheat anymore ... or w/e
11:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
11:19 < aestetix> http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/tldr/
11:20 < aestetix> "Pretend we didn’t need to use protection whenever we had sex while we were broken up"
11:20 < aestetix> sorry but that one falls on him equally
11:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> yes/no
11:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> if she was on the pill, then protection was only for stds
11:21 < aestetix> but the "while we were broken up" part
11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... it still makes sense
11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> taking a break
11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
11:21 <@Dolemite> So who is this Zoe Quinn?
11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> some female game dev
11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> who is in the "in" crowd
11:22 <@brimstone> she can post to the phreaknic list?
11:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno, but it might at least add more up to date information, even if it Feminist
11:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> maybe get her to be a speaker
11:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> her and her friend phil fish , lol
11:24 < aestetix> https://i.imgur.com/iSEPh6a.png
11:25 < aestetix> so that's the phil fish guy?
11:25 <@Wilpig> aestetix: the drupal logo
11:25 < aestetix> oh lol
11:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> same thing , game dev in the 'in crowd'
11:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> they are all basically just HS drama queens/kings, but its kinda interesting them showing the incestuous nature of 'games journalism' right now
11:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats what I personally think is the more interesting angle on this
11:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> she was sleeping with a journalist who covered her industry, and reviewed her game in the past
11:27 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: that sounds like a conflict of interest
11:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then allegedly having kotaku (thats the site) write articles in a certain direction
11:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> the Feminism angle on stuff
11:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> at least the guy she was sleeping with at the time
11:28 < aestetix> So basically
11:28 < aestetix> This sounds like people don't know boundaries
11:28 < aestetix> None of that crap in the post was relevant except for the conflict of interest reporter who
11:28 < aestetix> reporter thing
11:29 <@Wilpig> btw.. NSFW http://imgur.com/a/Y6EyK#0 NSFW
11:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Zoe Quinn in all her glory - Imgur (at imgur.com)
11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> really?
11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats all
11:29 <@shapr> do not want
11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... do not want
11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> been a while... and i'd still not hit
11:30 <@Wilpig> that's what she's complaining about making the rounds. they're fucking watermarked for distribution for fucks sake
11:30 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: you and wilpig should hang out ;)
11:30 <@shapr> haven't seen it, don't wanna see it.
11:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> shapr: nothing interesting
11:30 <@shapr> ok
11:30 <@Wilpig> shapr: don't be a pussy
11:30 <@shapr> I have work to do.
11:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> just these images make her face look like a guys
11:30 <@shapr> [zip(xrange(len(y)),y) for y in [zip(xrange(len(x)),x) for x in somelist]]
11:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> fucking python
11:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> if python got rid of duct typing it might actually be useful to me,lol
11:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> (yes i know... thats the thing that most people love about it)
11:32 <@shapr> heh, duct typing :-)
11:32 <@shapr> nah, I hate the lack of real typing in Python
11:32 <@opticron> shapr, you're not missing anything by not looking
11:32 <@shapr> mind you, C/C++/Java aren't much better about typing.
11:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno I think java's system isn't too bad, java 8 basically added in mutli-inheritance
11:34 <@Wilpig> but it's still java
11:34 <@Wilpig> you can't overlook that
11:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, but java of yester-year is nothing like java of now
11:35 <@Wilpig> damned zombies
11:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> unlike php, it fucking gets rid of some of the crap parts of its language
11:35 < aestetix> ok enough of that zoe quinn crap
11:35 <@Wilpig> aestetix: did you really need anything past the pictures?
11:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> well he wanted to read more about TRUE feminism
11:36 < aestetix> I read a few of the forum posts and closed the tab
11:38 <@shapr> RangerZ|Laptop: Ever used a language with type inference?
11:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> python
11:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> or you mean something more like scala
11:39 <@shapr> Nah, Python has dynamic typing
11:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> c++11 has it actually
11:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> though I haven't used that
11:39 <@shapr> Yeah, something more like scala
11:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> no, not really
11:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> you?
11:40 <@shapr> Yeah, lots
11:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> your opinion?
11:41 <@shapr> Makes other type systems feel really clunky.
11:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> its tough on security
11:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> i know that much
11:41 <@shapr> You get all the benefits of Python, all the benefits of C/Java/etc, and some extra on top.
11:41 <@shapr> How so?
11:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> input validation apparently becomes REALLY messy (or can) depending on the actual implementation
11:42 <@shapr> Hm, got any examples? I'm not quite clear.
11:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> i read some papers on it when i was working on my masters project
11:42 <@shapr> Do you mean type-safe parsing string inputs?
11:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> partially , but its actually the compiler/tools that become difficult
11:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> like "0" what is that a string or a number
11:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
11:44 <@shapr> "0" is a string, but 0 is a number
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11:44 <@shapr> :t 0
11:44 < lambdabot> Num a => a
11:44 <@shapr> :t "0"
11:44 < lambdabot> [Char]
11:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
11:45 <@shapr> But you also get to nail down types if you wish
11:45 <@shapr> :t 0 :: Float
11:45 < lambdabot> Float
11:45 <@shapr> :t 0 :: Int
11:45 < lambdabot> Int
11:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, I'm saying, it depends on what else the language does, to mitigate these problems
11:45 <@opticron> :t 1 :: ToasterOven
11:45 < lambdabot> Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘ToasterOven’
11:45 <@shapr> yeah, good point
11:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c without those language constraints, you can get fucked hard
11:46 <@shapr> RangerZ|Laptop: I'd like to know more about the security problems, happen to remember any of the papers you read?
11:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> no, but i'll look
11:46 <@shapr> Yeah, Haskell has a sweet spot between doing some stuff for you, but not too much stuff.
11:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> they were more theoretical security issues, not 'real' ones
11:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> and the papers were older
11:47 <@shapr> Python has a very different spot, but still a bunch of good points to where it sits.
11:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> but anyways, off to work
11:47 * shapr waves
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11:48 <@shapr> opticron: You can declare a type with that name, how would it be structured?
11:48 <@opticron> like a toasteroven
11:48 * shapr thinks about that
11:49 <@shapr> data ToasterOven = Toaster [Maybe Bread]
11:49 <@shapr> data Bread = Bread | Toast
11:49 <@opticron> needs an interface for things that are toasterovenable
11:49 <@shapr> oh, ok
11:50 * shapr thinks a bit
11:54 <@shapr> opticron: http://lpaste.net/5893147020801081344
11:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: ToasterOven :: lpaste — Lambda pastebin (at lpaste.net)
11:56 <@opticron> indeed
11:56 <@shapr> that's not a very useful typeclass though
11:57 <@shapr> typeclasses are similar to interfaces in Java
11:57 <@Wilpig> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087086 <-- Bahhumbug, fix it
11:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bug 1087086 lshw seg fault unless use -disable SCSI option (at bugzilla.redhat.com)
12:11 <@Dolemite> Any decent movies supposed to open this weekend?
12:18 <@oddball> I believe there are some theaters showing Ghostbusters for the 30th anniversary.
12:19 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: don't think so, but sin city opened last weekend
12:19 <@oddball> And in other news... Ghostbusters came out 30 years ago, and you're old.
12:19 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: Ah. Then I may just take 2.0 to TMNT. Have a Regal shop to do.
12:20 <@opticron> huh...just realized that the new transformers is already out
12:20 <@opticron> is it even worth watching?
12:21 <@opticron> RT of 18% has it in that sweet spot where it might be just bad enough to be enjoyable
12:21 <@Wilpig> you're dead to me Dolemite
12:22 <@Wilpig> friends don't let friends ruin a franchise by supporting the new TMNT
12:22 <@oddball> I know someone who went to see TMNT. Apparently it features Megan Fox... alot...
12:22 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: Well he's already been to GotG. I'll give him a choice, and the franchise is already ruined by the fact that they made enough to declare a sequel.
12:23 <@oddball> Hmmm... that reminds me... I still need to go see the Expendables 3.
12:24 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: teach him the importantance of a repeat viewing of GotG
12:25 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: I also have to worry about keeping count of how many people are in the theater. I figured it would be a cakewalk at TMNT. ;)
12:26 <@Dolemite> Plus this way I'm not actually supporting it, because the theater has to write it off as an expense.
12:26 <@Wilpig> lame excuse
12:33 < aestetix> I can tell that the Obamacare enrollment period is coming up because I am getting lots of health care spam
12:36 < aestetix> oh god someone is attacking HP Lovecraft for being racist
12:51 <@shapr> aestetix: well, that's not hard
12:54 < aestetix> shapr: the "I am not sexist or racist" shit has gotten so bad in the bay area that nobody wants to talk about anything anymore for fear of being called out
12:55 <@shapr> yup, I think so too
12:56 < aestetix> the party I was at on saturday was so lame
12:56 < aestetix> mostly for that reason
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13:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/18888467
13:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> nvm... wrong channel
13:10 < aestetix> penis
13:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: got a question for you
13:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> since you're the most likely to have an idea of where to look for this (god this could be bad) but I'm curious if you have a, or know of a, link or book or something that talks about this 'new' feminism in a non-judgmental manner
13:15 < aestetix> the new wave, you mean?
13:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm familiar with the 1st wave, 2nd wave, 3rd wave, etc distinctions, and I'm curious as to what these new ones believe that is different
13:15 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: look up "sex positive feminism"
13:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c I consider myself a pretty progressive person when it comes to women's rights, etc... but there are all these new terms like "cis male" etc, that I honestly had no clue what they were
13:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> I had to ask Corydon76-home wtf "sys male" was (heard it on a podcast)
13:16 <@Corydon76-home> cis-male
13:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah i know now, and write it above
13:17 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, I see.
13:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> part of this is that I don't read 4chan anymore, and never got into reddit
13:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> or god forbid tumblr/etc
13:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> so i'm not up to date with drama
13:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> Corydon76-home: you might know also, any good non-biased discussion of the new feminism?
13:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> and thats an open question to anyone really, male or female or other
13:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
13:20 <@Corydon76-home> You're asking someone who doesn't keep up with the various feminist movements
13:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> well how dare you
13:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
13:21 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: keep in mind I don't really like labels
13:21 < aestetix> nor do I have time for all these new complaints
13:21 < aestetix> for example the idiots who have decided "tranny" is super offensive, and have shamed all the stuff from the 70s about trannies
13:21 <@Corydon76-home> Basic problem would be that feminism is at its core, just a really simple idea: that women are treated equally bad as men.
13:22 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: reminds me of a phrase I heard: "I don't understand why women want to be our equals. They're better than us and always have been."
13:23 <@Corydon76-home> Because until everybody is equal, nobody is.
13:23 < aestetix> This is why I say "legal equality"
13:23 < aestetix> because that's the only equality there is
13:24 <@Corydon76-home> We've come a long ways from when, about 100 years ago, women weren't even permitted to own property.
13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> god damn it...
13:24 < aestetix> Well the issue is
13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> a meeting at the center of campus... and i'm on music row
13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> :/
13:24 < aestetix> A lot of people have decided to not listen to anything older than 20 years ago, because it was "racist" or "sexist"
13:24 < aestetix> thus throwing out all the lessons and traditions we've had for years
13:25 <@Corydon76-home> Uh, yeah. It's also why there are still 18yo's having unprotected sex and becoming HIV positive.
13:25 < aestetix> huh?
13:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c they aren't taught about the past
13:26 < aestetix> oh
13:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> i think is his point
13:26 < aestetix> yeah
13:26 < aestetix> man
13:26 <@Corydon76-home> Because they refuse to listen to stuff we knew 20 years ago
13:26 < aestetix> That reminds me of when some bay area idiots accused my friend of oppressing them
13:26 < aestetix> because he's a white male
13:26 < aestetix> he's gay, in his 50s, and has lived in the bay area for 30 years
13:26 < aestetix> such an oppressor
13:27 <@Corydon76-home> They clearly didn't understand the feminist theory behind that.
13:27 <@Corydon76-home> It's not that people are actually oppressors. It's that the system has a tendency to keep historic disadvantages in place.
13:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> you don't have to FOLLOW the past, but you should be aware of it
13:28 <@Corydon76-home> Just like people don't have to ACTUALLY be racists to benefit from the historic advantages given to white people
13:29 <@Dolemite> Music over 20 years old is racist?
13:29 <@Dolemite> That brings a completely new light to Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
13:30 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: no, but the music industry as a whole is, because mainstream still recommends black artists to niche markets.
13:30 <@Dolemite> It's STILL racist
13:31 <@Dolemite> And it all sounds like gobbledy gook. Get off my lawn!#%!@#$!@#
13:31 * Dolemite waves his cane defiantly before taking another hit from the O2 tank
13:32 <@Corydon76-home> If, as a promoter, you suggest a black artist would be more successful at a historically black label, you may be absolutely correct in the assessment, with no actual ill-will towards the artist. That's institutional racism.
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13:48 <@Mirage> I've had this damned song stuck in my head for a week. Everyone should share my pain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8
13:49 <@Mirage> Bot fail: the flaming lips - "yoshimi battles the pink robots part 1"
13:51 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: I seem to recall AIDS really started becoming an issue in the mid 80's...30 years ago...
13:52 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: It did, but the understanding that condoms would prevent the disease didn't come until later.
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13:54 <@Mirage> RangerZ|Laptop: 115.25? Isn't that the old "iDev workstation" network?
13:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> huh?
13:55 <@Dolemite> your ip address. it's showing
13:55 * Mirage really needs to find a way to purge all the VU-specific knowledge from his head
13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> i thats not the IP i see
13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> internal 10.42.....
13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> so I dunno
13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> wifi on the public network doesn't get statics anymore
13:56 <@Mirage> I bet NetSec reclaimed it after iDev got kicked over to EAI and are using it for NAT gateways now, then
13:59 <@Mirage> Here's Dolemite when back at SUN.. (yes, i know it's an advertisement) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_l9XvGZA4
13:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: InFocus MVP100 Video Phone: Crazy - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:06 <@Mirage> Morning radio played this song this morning and started a mild uproar of parents calling in: (ignore the fact it's old country and just listen to the words.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zoTLwrm9QE
14:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Sad Song Teddy Bear by Red Sovine - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
14:09 <@Mirage> aestetix: you should enjoy that link starting at ~2:55 in
14:28 <@notlarry> Corydon76-home I still love the fact that the "black" sound everyone wanted on the records came from a half a dozen "good ol' boys" in Muscle Shoals.
14:29 <@Wilpig> red sovine is buried in nashville. stupid ingress I shouldn't know that
14:32 <@Mirage> Wilpig: lol
14:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> but the real question is... Where is Red Green buried ?
14:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
14:39 <@Wilpig> RangerZ|Laptop: I don't know but I suspect Blue had something to do with it
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15:00 <@shapr> @quote research.language
15:00 < lambdabot> Jafet says: Haskell is an abstract research language used only in academia, education, banking, stock trading, circuit design, embedded systems, cryptography, operating systems research, bioinformatics, phone apps, and web services.
15:00 <@shapr> @quote YAHOO
15:00 < lambdabot> No quotes match. My brain just exploded
15:00 <@shapr> hmm
15:00 <@shapr> oh well
15:01 <@Corydon76-home> The symbol is probably something like YHOO
15:01 <@shapr> @quote YHOO
15:01 < lambdabot> No quotes match. Have you considered trying to match wits with a rutabaga?
15:01 <@GateKeeper> shapr: The current price of YHOO is 37.70, as of 2:46pm EST. A change of -0.31 from the last business day.
15:01 <@shapr> ah, neat
15:02 <@shapr> It's funny to me that @ became the most common prefix irc bot symbol because I statred using it to call lambdabot plugin commands.
15:02 <@Corydon76-home> Stock symbols are generally 1-4 characters
15:03 <@Corydon76-home> @quote AAPL
15:03 < lambdabot> No quotes match. stty: unknown mode: doofus
15:03 <@Bahhumbug> Can you please change your bot's activate trigger here?
15:03 <@Bahhumbug> activation, even
15:03 <@shapr> lambdabot: @part #se2600
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15:14 <@Wilpig> damnit shapr. don't bring yahoo stock going down in price to my attention, asshole
15:15 <@Wilpig> unless i'm about to buy a bunch, then by all means make that shit drop
15:23 < aestetix> fucking comcast
15:24 < aestetix> two hours of outage
15:32 <@Wilpig> I hate automated tech support responses
15:32 <@Wilpig> and for this jackass's sake I hope it's automated
15:32 <@Bahhumbug> heh
15:33 <@Wilpig> my email to them "We've got a card we believe to be bad. We cannot run diagnostics on it because it causes a myriad of system errors and when the virident driver goes to load it segfaults out. I'm attaching a copy of the event log from the idrac controller."
15:33 <@Wilpig> also included serial number and a few other details
15:33 <@Wilpig> their response "We have received your support request and a case #1908 has been created. An engineer will contact you shortly to assist you further. Please if possible can you run vgc-diags and provide those."
15:33 <@Wilpig> and it started with "hello wilbur,"
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15:38 <@Mirage> Wilpig: Could have been worse...could have been IBM telling you to update the firmware first and then run the diagnostics.
15:38 <@Mirage> Because that's their answer to everything.
15:38 <@Bahhumbug> Heh. I remember that from years past. Good to see things never change in Big Blue land.
15:58 <@Wilpig> someone just stepped on a duck in the 40' tall echo'y stairwell
16:00 < RangerZ> is howard alright?
16:04 <@Bahhumbug> http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/amazon-not-google-reportedly-buying-twitch-for-1-billion/
16:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Amazon—not Google—reportedly buying Twitch for $1 billion | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com)
16:04 <@Bahhumbug> How the fuck is twitch worth 1B USD?
16:06 < frsilent> some of those streamers make bank
16:06 < frsilent> I work with a company that does video guides on how to be better at video games
16:06 < frsilent> & negotiated with some asian canadian girl that wanted $500 per ~5m video
16:07 <@Bahhumbug> Really?
16:07 <@Bahhumbug> I wasn't aware of that.
16:07 < frsilent> which is what skill-capped offers their content makers
16:07 < frsilent> which makes about $260k/mo
16:08 < frsilent> well...it's a lucrative market is all that I'm trying to highlight
16:08 <@Bahhumbug> Right.
16:08 < RangerZ> they are the first company who has actually _working_ live streaming of 50k+ that doesn't crash shit every time too
16:08 <@Bahhumbug> I just wasn't aware of that.
16:08 < RangerZ> google still can't hadle that properly
16:08 <@Bahhumbug> I've been on twitch _maybe_ 5 times.
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16:09 < frsilent> honestly I wouldn't ever watch it if it weren't part of the business
16:09 < frsilent> but some people love making celebrities out of gamers
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16:10 < frsilent> this girl had such an ego...
16:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> which one?
16:10 < frsilent> made a deal to share with me that she made $280k/yr +
16:10 < frsilent> itshaffie or something
16:10 < frsilent> maybe hafu
16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> huh?
16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> wtf are you talking about
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16:11 < frsilent> http://www.twitch.tv/itshafu ***not canadian
16:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitch (at www.twitch.tv)
16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh ok
16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> that can't be as bad as 'itcuties' on youtube
16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> they have "pornstar pretty" girls tell you programming stuff
16:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> which they OBVIOUSLY don't understand
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16:13 < frsilent> I played a lot of competitive counter-strike when I was younger and the keyboard warrioring is pretty rampant
16:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
16:15 < frsilent> I mean, it's expected everywhere with those age groups but man I hate dealing with some of the emotionally immature people of it
16:15 < frsilent> but like I said...there's good money to be found
16:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> pewdiepie makes like 3m/yr
16:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> or something
16:15 < frsilent> jesus
16:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> in his fake high pitched sweedish voice
16:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> linus tech tips makes like 200k/yr or something
16:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> to support like 4~5 full time employees
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16:34 < aestetix> I think I am stoned
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16:45 * shapr hugs klixa
16:48 < RangerZ> klixa: good news
16:48 < RangerZ> at least you aren't called Five Guys and Fries ;)
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16:50 < RangerZ> for the daily disapointment: https://phreaknic.info/node/1/speakers still nothing listed
16:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speakers | PhreakNIC (at phreaknic.info)
16:58 <@Wilpig> RangerZ: at least the installer is gone
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17:31 <@Bahhumbug> I predict that sites gets hacked either just before the event or during the event.
17:31 <@Bahhumbug> s/sites/site/
17:36 < RangerZ> with lots of dicks on it?
17:37 < RangerZ> lol
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17:40 < aestetix> vagina
17:41 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: Now, now... leave Zoe Quinn out of this.
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17:42 * RangerZ golf claps
17:42 < RangerZ> 2 under par on that round
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18:04 < aestetix> there should be a movie called Penistiltskin
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> @google Penistiltskin
18:06 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: No matches found.
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> Holy Shit.
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> No one made a porn out of that?
18:06 <@Wilpig> wow. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732523/Chef-dies-spitting-cobra-cooking-bit-hand-20-minutes-cut-head-off.html
18:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Chef Peng Fan dies after cobra bit him 20 minutes after he had cut head off | Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk)
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> It's the daily mail - how valid is that story?
18:07 <@Wilpig> valid.
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18:07 < aestetix> There should also be a movie about the roman emperor Testiclus
18:07 <@Wilpig> it's a non-hype story, more of a wtf
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18:10 < aestetix> @google testiclus
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18:15 <@Bahhumbug> @google testiclus
18:15 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Ricky Gervais: Why Im an Atheist - Speakeasy - WSJ - WSJ Blogs: ; CalPhotos: Browse Invertebrate-other Photos by Scientific Names: ; The Sons of Emperor Norton - Members: (3 more messages)
18:15 <@Bahhumbug> @more
18:15 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: ; Testicular Pain (Pain in the Testicles) Symptoms, Causes, Treatment ...: ; Effects of rare earth nitrate on internal organs and mineral elements ...: ; aching balls - Search for Conditions | Medical Advice | Health ...: (2 more messages)
18:15 < aestetix> haha
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18:28 < RangerZ> so... reddit shadowbanning people who are posting on the subreddit about this
18:33 < aestetix> what does shaddowbanning mean
18:33 < aestetix> RangerZ: are you still on about that zoe chick?
18:33 < aestetix> and what subreddit
18:33 < aestetix> cause I wanna see drama
18:34 <@Wilpig> notlarry: http://t.co/8x9AZwirOx
18:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Rob DenBleyker on Twitter: http://t.co/8x9AZwirOx (at t.co)
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18:38 < RangerZ> aestetix: yeah... its 'banning' but you don't realize you are banned, YOU can see your posts, but no one else can (as far as I understand it)
18:40 <@Wilpig> hahaha https://twitter.com/RyankHudson/status/492068490233126912/photo/1
18:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ryan Hudson on Twitter: Someone told me you were way into comics. Drew one. For you. http://t.co/uagjQIob0h http://t.co/MEum8ddhX7 (at twitter.com)
18:40 < RangerZ> http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2ecvrb/latest_zoe_quinn_drama_explodes/
18:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Latest Zoe Quinn drama explodes. SpiritualSuccessors takes on the job of undertaker and ferryman across the styx to /r/Shadowban. : SubredditDrama (at www.reddit.com)
18:40 < RangerZ> there is a compilation of some of the drama
18:41 < aestetix> some of
18:41 < aestetix> how much fucking drama is there
18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Too much.
18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously...
18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Why is anyone caring about this?
18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Fucking internet drama.
18:44 < RangerZ> I think its a culmination of a lot of people being pissed at a lot of different things 1) SJW 2) the 'new' Feminists 3) censorship & false DMCA takedowns 4) game journalism (Which has had issues lately)
18:44 < RangerZ> I'm kinda interested in it from a meta perspective
18:44 < aestetix> who are the new feminists
18:44 < RangerZ> the game journalism and censorship interest me more than the rest
18:45 < RangerZ> aestetix: the people you know as 'feminists' b/c I've never met or talked to a female who considered themselves a 'feminist' like that until crazypants
18:45 <@Bahhumbug> None of this interests me. I just can't be bothered with this idiocy.
18:45 < aestetix> fauxminists you mean
18:46 < RangerZ> I like to use the term that people want to call themselves
18:46 < RangerZ> but I'll use modifiers
18:46 < RangerZ> but yes
18:46 < RangerZ> and Zoe is one of them
18:46 < aestetix> so you use nigga?
18:46 <@Dagmar> GOod lord
18:46 <@Dagmar> That's a giant mess
18:46 <@Bahhumbug> That's fucking offensive.
18:46 < RangerZ> umm no
18:47 < RangerZ> and you know what I mean, what they want called
18:48 < RangerZ> when you can have a single drama-storm including reddit, 4chan, youtube, and every major gaming website out there (which they are all killing discussion of this topic apparently in their forums)
18:48 < RangerZ> you have a Perfect Storm situation
18:49 < RangerZ> you whats funny....
18:49 < RangerZ> someone working at the 5 guys corp. office, doing a normal analysis of google trending of '5 guys' in google search...
18:49 < RangerZ> and seeing their 'wtf' reaction
18:50 < aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2dzc7x/rgaming_mods_are_deleting_every_comment_that_is/
18:50 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I'm sure their incident summary will be TL;DR: We don't want to go anywhere near this.
18:51 < RangerZ> pretty much
18:51 < RangerZ> OR they have someone searching the doxxs to find a 6th
18:51 < RangerZ> hehe
18:52 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps if people would spend more time worrying about shit that matters this planet wouldn't be quite so fucked as it is now.
18:52 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: agreed
18:52 < aestetix> However this is kind of entertaining
18:53 < aestetix> http://indiestatik.com/2014/03/31/most-expensive-game-jam/
18:53 < RangerZ> yep, these people are just FULL of BS
18:54 <@Bahhumbug> This is an entertaining as not being able to pull your eyes from a trainwreck.
18:54 <@Bahhumbug> I mean, spend your time as you see fit. But I just don't find this trash worth it.
18:54 * Bahhumbug shrugs
18:54 <@Bahhumbug> Maybe I just don't care enough.
18:57 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: I don't consider it profound, but it's sort of like how folks watch sports games.
18:58 <@Bahhumbug> I've got $5 USD that says you don't watch sports.
18:58 <@Bahhumbug> So is this your sport?
18:58 <@Bahhumbug> :)
18:59 < aestetix> Yes
18:59 < aestetix> It's sort of like digital gladiators
19:00 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: and lets be honest... most of the pro sports now suck
19:00 < RangerZ> lol
19:00 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, I can't argue that.
19:00 <@Bahhumbug> My bro-in-law was talking about the Titans at dinner last week. I had to ask him what team he was talking about. And I used to follow pro football religiously.
19:01 <@Dagmar> I'll watch Women's UFC because they know not to beat up their girlfriends.
19:01 < aestetix> who are the titans
19:01 <@Bahhumbug> I just haven't been able to get into it past the Bears / Steelers for the past couple years.
19:01 < RangerZ> Nashville NFL team
19:01 < aestetix> ah
19:01 <@Bahhumbug> Bunch of spoiled primadoma pussies.
19:01 <@Bahhumbug> Err, primadona?
19:01 <@Bahhumbug> Whatever.
19:01 < RangerZ> the first time I'd ever heard of the clippers was the drama over them, but I don't like basketball, etc
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19:17 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmy5OKg6lo
19:17 < aestetix> RangerZ: this is helpful
19:25 < aestetix> wow
19:25 < aestetix> this video
19:25 < aestetix> it just keeps getting better and better
19:31 < aestetix> this is like the adult version of dashcon
19:32 * Bahhumbug considers you have far too much free time
19:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah i just watched that, lol
19:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> i'm listening to random ramblings about it while cleaning
19:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
19:36 <@Dagmar> I like this guy
19:39 <@brimstone> are you guys gonna get irongeek to record pn18?
19:40 <@Dagmar> Breeng me cameras
19:40 <@Dagmar> I'm bringing a myth box so that hopefully we can get these dumb videos out to people _during_ the con
19:41 <@brimstone> bring a separate fileserver so we can just wget or rsync the videos too
19:41 <@brimstone> plzkthx
19:41 <@Dagmar> Yes. Torrenting
19:41 <@Bahhumbug> brimstone: You're not logged into idlerpg if you care about such things.
19:41 <@Dagmar> ...but plans can change
19:41 <@brimstone> Bahhumbug: i do, but this box is not stable currently
19:42 <@brimstone> 3 restarts today already
19:42 * Bahhumbug nods
19:42 <@Dagmar> Im' pretty sure I have all the hardware for that lying around here
19:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> i forget who it was, but whoever notacon got to record their stuff, was great, he gave a dvd burn of the talk to the speaker like 1hr later, and you could buy the dvds for like 5$ each otherwise
19:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then they would be hosted online like 2 mo later
19:42 <@brimstone> a btsync box would also be, albeit it less, acceptable.
19:43 <@brimstone> it's 2014, get them online day of
19:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> a dvd is nice also, but thats personal pref.
19:44 <@brimstone> what is this, physical media you speak of?
19:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> 2006 tech
19:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> well not really 'that' year, but ehh
19:44 <@Dagmar> I just need some composity audio/video
19:44 <@Bahhumbug> I'd offer to host whatever you guys needed at no cost but... I don't like the people involved within the organization.
19:45 <@brimstone> youtube or vimeo it
19:45 <@brimstone> done
19:45 * Bahhumbug nods
19:45 <@brimstone> and one big .torrent at the end
19:45 <@Bahhumbug> Get rid of the idiots running the show and if you ever need hosting, for whatever, it's yours.
19:46 * Bahhumbug goes to grab some dinner.
19:46 <@brimstone> Bahhumbug: are you in nashville?
19:46 <@Dagmar> Damn this guy has figured out where *all* the bodies are buried
19:46 <@Bahhumbug> Manchester.
19:46 <@brimstone> you just have to show up to two meetings to have voting powers
19:46 <@Dagmar> Holy shit he AWESOME at the ten minute mark
19:46 <@brimstone> then you can vote them out
19:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> he has a pretty bad british accent
19:47 <@Bahhumbug> brimstone: That's the plan.
19:47 <@Bahhumbug> Anyway, food.
19:47 * Bahhumbug &
19:51 <@Dagmar> He just *hands* that Matti guy grounds or a lawsuit
19:52 < aestetix> Who was the guy the video played a sound clip of
19:52 < aestetix> some guy who makes games?
19:52 <@Dagmar> It was an interview that was *horribly* misconstrued later
19:52 <@Dagmar> Like, the full story with respect to something they used to lambaste a male developer
19:53 <@Dagmar> You're going to want to watch that segment again
19:53 < aestetix> what was his name?
19:53 < aestetix> or what game did he make
19:54 <@Dagmar> NO idea, but he was basically burned in a wicker man by the SJWs
19:54 <@Dagmar> He created God of War and Twisted Metal
19:54 <@Dagmar> It starts at 11:30
19:54 < aestetix> oh ok
19:55 <@Dagmar> Like stuff they really, really took out of context
19:55 <@Dagmar> They practically cut and pasted his words together
19:56 < aestetix> So he has grounds for a lawsuit
19:56 <@Dagmar> He has to demonstrate harm
19:57 <@Dagmar> But basically, he was calling one of the editors of Kotaku out over the shit they published
19:57 <@Dagmar> ...calling him a mysogynist.
19:58 <@Dagmar> Put this dude is seriously dropping a nuke into the gamer fauxminist/sjw camp
19:58 <@Dagmar> s/Put/But/;
20:01 <@Dagmar> "Are you people insane? Do you live on Planet Fucking Nuts?"
20:01 <@Dagmar> looooool
20:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> hell soon, I wouldn't be surprised if 'real media' starts to report on it
20:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c with people shining so much light on stuff now, I wouldn't be surprised if more dragons come out
20:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
20:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Quinnspiracy Theory: The Five Guys Saga - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> this one he did earlier, talks about the phil fish connection and other stuff, (the left 2 guys have said they aren't the 2 'other' guys)
20:26 < aestetix> sigh
20:29 * oddball looks in and guesses that he missed something bit.
20:29 <@oddball> er big
20:30 < RangerZ> oddball: you read any gaming websites?
20:31 <@oddball> not really
20:31 < RangerZ> b/c all the major gaming website are in the center of a cluster fuck of major porportions
20:31 <@oddball> oh?
20:31 < RangerZ> youtube/twitter/those sites/4chan/reddit
20:32 < RangerZ> basically a female game dev slept with reviewers, her bos, and 5 guys (and her b/f now calls her '5 guys with fries' , lol)
20:32 < RangerZ> and its showing incetiuous relationship between devs and "journalists"
20:32 <@oddball> ah
20:33 < RangerZ> s/bos/boss
20:33 <@oddball> Honestly? I see that actually being refreshingly honest compared to normal game reviews, etc.
20:33 < RangerZ> ohh but they weren't telling anyone it was going on
20:34 <@oddball> ah
20:34 < RangerZ> plus false DMCA takedown notices to youtube, a subreddit /r/gaming banning anyone who talks about it
20:34 < RangerZ> 4chan /v/ deleting threads
20:34 < RangerZ> almost none of the game sites talking about it b/c its "personal info"
20:34 <@brimstone> oh, she's the depression quest dev
20:34 <@brimstone> neat
20:35 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmy5OKg6lo probably the most concise explanation
20:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Quinnspiracy Theory: In-N-Out Edition - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:36 <@oddball> yes.. the most concise is apparently damned near 30 minutes.
20:37 < RangerZ> yeah... pretty much
20:38 < RangerZ> honestly i gave you the 'concise' version, but thats a good explanation
20:40 <@Wilpig> the dude makes one very good point. when 4chan, reddit, and tumblr agree on something you should get the fuck out of the way of that freight train
20:40 < RangerZ> yeah...
20:41 <@oddball> heh... true
20:42 < RangerZ> I'm just waiting for youtube to _really_ explode
20:42 < RangerZ> b/c like 18 of the top 20 youtubers are game related
20:42 < RangerZ> or something silly like that
20:43 < RangerZ> but apparently that and ....make up... are the two biggest genres
20:44 <@Wilpig> and that's enough of that. too much don't care and not listening to this shit
20:47 <@Dagmar> dafuq
20:47 <@Dagmar> Someone's transmitting morse nearby
20:52 <@Wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ov51ep44l6x5og9/aliens-meme-image.jpeg?dl=0
20:53 <@Dagmar> Well, it's 16, so it's probably a GRMS repeater
20:53 <@Dagmar> er GMRS
20:53 <@Dagmar> ...and there's a house not very far at all from here with the Conspicuous Shortwave Tower
20:54 <@oddball> I do have to say this... that video is a *hell* of a lot more than a vauge "she's sleeping her way to the top."
20:55 <@Dagmar> Yeah
20:55 < RangerZ> yeah
20:55 <@Dagmar> There's some seriouls corruption going on
20:57 <@oddball> While I appreciate Adam Sessler's response to folks accusing him of taking money for good reviews, there's a reason why the video game press is generally looked on as a steaming pile of dog shit.
20:58 <@oddball> Of course, Sessler was also apparently not afraid to come out and tell people "yeah... this game is crap." Which is something you almost never see elsewhere.
20:58 < RangerZ> which is why he's gone
20:58 < RangerZ> he got fed up with the BS/drama
20:58 <@oddball> yep
20:58 < RangerZ> also...
20:58 < RangerZ> he was with Zoe that night
20:58 < RangerZ> at a bar in SF
20:58 <@oddball> ha!
20:58 < RangerZ> lol
20:59 < RangerZ> he's still there and friends with people, etc
20:59 <@oddball> Well, there was also a whole extra pile of crap with dealing with G4.
20:59 < RangerZ> yeah, but at the end, he was working for Discovery Channel
21:00 < RangerZ> their "Rev 3 games" division
21:00 <@oddball> wa he?
21:00 <@oddball> er was he?
21:00 < RangerZ> yeah
21:00 < RangerZ> last 1.5 yrs or so
21:00 < RangerZ> its why I started watching it
21:00 <@oddball> Huh... didn't know that.
21:01 < RangerZ> i never watched him before that actually
21:01 < RangerZ> stumbled upon him last E3
21:01 < RangerZ> and then he quit early this year
21:05 <@oddball> My friends and I made a point of watching him and Morgan Webb back in college.
21:09 < RangerZ> https://i.imgur.com/RNF8nm9.png
21:09 < RangerZ> Total Biscuit not liking her/others BS
21:12 < RangerZ> "Had a nap and dreamed I had made an anime. Woke up to SJW spreading lies about me. Thanks god I haven't made an anime."
21:12 < aestetix> RangerZ: here's a question for you
21:13 < aestetix> it's easy for me to put conference talks together
21:13 < aestetix> but writing a paper is fucking impossible
21:13 < aestetix> any way to get around that block?
21:15 < RangerZ> what do you mean?
21:15 < RangerZ> you 'cant' b/c of writing skill?
21:15 < RangerZ> or not wanting to use real name?
21:15 < aestetix> No, I can write well.
21:16 < aestetix> I'm just not motivated, I guess.
21:16 < RangerZ> actually , writing a paper is very formulaic , we just don't teach kids how to do it right
21:16 < aestetix> Or I'm under too much stress from various things
21:16 < aestetix> Oh, I know how to write a paper.
21:16 < RangerZ> i mean 'research' papers
21:16 < aestetix> I think it's more that it feels like a lot of effort for a potential low readership
21:16 < RangerZ> they have pretty fucking standard format
21:17 < aestetix> if I give a talk I know at least someone will see it
21:17 < RangerZ> yes, but your talk can't be submitted as reference for other work or cited
21:17 < aestetix> right
21:17 < RangerZ> not...easily... at least
21:17 < aestetix> well heh heh
21:17 < aestetix> also, I'm totally happy to put a real name on it. Just not a legal name ;)
21:18 < RangerZ> basically you 2 options
21:18 < RangerZ> op eds
21:18 < RangerZ> or a blog
21:18 < RangerZ> but to get your op ed published, you'd have to be 'recognized'
21:18 < aestetix> yeah blog it is
21:19 < RangerZ> but whats the 'topic' ?
21:19 < RangerZ> nym stuff?
21:19 < aestetix> maybe if drama would just stop happening I'd be able to focus
21:19 < RangerZ> also...
21:19 < aestetix> maybe I should put you on ignore so I don't have to spend an hour reading about the stupid quinn thing
21:19 < RangerZ> you know...
21:19 < RangerZ> there are "conferences" where you just present
21:19 < RangerZ> academic conf. are that way
21:20 < RangerZ> all you have to do , is write an abstract
21:21 < aestetix> so just like phreakinc
21:21 < aestetix> preaknic
21:21 < RangerZ> pretty much
21:21 < RangerZ> but you won't even be accepted without your legal name
21:22 < aestetix> ok so I'll just put Luther Blissett on all of them
21:22 < aestetix> that looks real enough
21:22 < RangerZ> if you want to be taken serious, you're going to have to give up your naive idea of keeping your legal name 'secret'
21:22 < RangerZ> its a great stance
21:22 < RangerZ> but fucking mavel has even covered this
21:22 < RangerZ> lol
21:22 < aestetix> I have read the Daredevil story, if that's what you mean.
21:23 < RangerZ> spiderman wasn't allowed to testify to congress with his mask on
21:23 < aestetix> oh wow
21:23 < aestetix> I did not know that
21:23 < RangerZ> despite sneaking into room, etc
21:23 < aestetix> where can I read that?
21:23 < RangerZ> marvel's digital library
21:23 < RangerZ> it was ~2004 to 2007 ish
21:24 < RangerZ> < that new?
21:24 < RangerZ> i happend to come upon it at Sheetz one night
21:24 < RangerZ> yeah
21:24 < RangerZ> they are also going to be addressing this in Superman V Batman
21:25 <@Dagmar> OKay. I think I'll see about picking up one of those cheap Sony Cyber-Shot cameras for testing
21:25 < aestetix> cool
21:25 < RangerZ> people want to 'charge' superman for the destroying of property/city/familes
21:25 <@Dagmar> Apparently they're about $50 now, which is acceptable for SD video
21:25 < aestetix> you know
21:25 < aestetix> I didn't realize how great comics were until I read Watchmen
21:25 < aestetix> And then saw Captain America
21:25 < aestetix> That stuff is fucking brilliant
21:25 < RangerZ> yeah
21:26 < RangerZ> manga has really good stuff too
21:26 < RangerZ> but with both... it takes finding the gems
21:26 < aestetix> The comic book store guys who dribble over themselves by memorizing mistakes in panels, not so much
21:26 < RangerZ> always a lot of crap
21:28 < RangerZ> aestetix: have you seen capt. america 2?
21:28 < aestetix> yes
21:28 < RangerZ> oh ok
21:28 < aestetix> I liked it, but not as much
21:28 < RangerZ> really? I thought it was much better
21:28 < aestetix> it didn't have nazis
21:28 < RangerZ> covered the 'war on terror' mentality
21:28 < RangerZ> and said it was BS
21:29 < RangerZ> but didn't hit you over the head with it
21:37 < RangerZ> http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2dz0gs/totalbiscuit_discusses_the_state_of_games/ HAHA
21:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: TotalBiscuit discusses the state of games journalism, Steam Greenlight, ethics, DMCA abuse and Depression Quest. : gaming (at www.reddit.com)
21:37 < RangerZ> wow... yeah... no one is censoring anything...
21:45 <@Dagmar> Gosh the incestuous coverup continues
21:48 < RangerZ> striesand effect
21:48 < RangerZ> striesand effect 101... don't use fake DMCA takedowns
21:48 < RangerZ> and just say things are false
21:48 < RangerZ> and then ignore them
21:49 <@Dagmar> InternetAristocrat fired a damn nuke tho
21:49 < RangerZ> yeah
21:49 <@Dagmar> He makes the very clear and evidence-supported argument that Kotaku are truly bent
21:49 <@Dagmar> That they have lost *all hope* of pretending to have journalistic integrity
21:50 < RangerZ> unless gawker fires everyone...
21:50 < RangerZ> but not likely
21:53 <@Dagmar> They're going to have a "no one is allowed to fuck anyone" policy deployed
21:54 < RangerZ> or a fucking REAL 'responsible disclosure' policy
21:54 < RangerZ> which would have solved all this
21:55 < RangerZ> sharrod brown(Sen from Ohio)'s wife is a reporter
21:55 < RangerZ> and when she reports on politics in ohio, she always puts a little annotation saying they are married (different last names)
21:55 < RangerZ> thats all it takes
22:04 <@Dagmar> Except in this case, I don't think they've maintained impartiality
22:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, pretty much
22:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> and ... I need to setup an actual server to hold my chat client, lol
22:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> i hope some of the young turk channels start to talk about it... to force admission of wtf is going on
22:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> "Lies, Damned Lies and the Video Game Press" HAHAHA
22:09 <@Dagmar> whoohoo!
22:21 < aestetix> penis
23:04 < aestetix> RangerZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqm877JG_0A
23:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, thats what actually brought this all to my attention
23:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> i subscribe to his videos
23:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think its just a situation where too many people don't want to see shades of gray (not just 50)
23:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> yes, video games should have more female equality, but it shouldn't _shame_ games that have male protagonists
23:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> my ex was one of the unicorn girls that would buy COD/halo/assassins creed... lol
23:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> but having worked at gamestop for 3.5 years, and suncoast for a year
23:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> i can tell you... mostly guys bought video games when I worked there... so unless things have changed dramatically ... thats still the truth
23:25 <@Dagmar> They *have* to shame those games
23:25 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, the narrative ignores their personal pet peeve
23:25 <@Dagmar> That's why they were arguing that the guy who invented Cards Against HUmanity shouldn't defend himself against the rape allegations
23:25 <@Dagmar> It's more important that he talk about _their pet peeve_
23:25 <@Dagmar> It's obsessive behaviour
23:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah
23:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think this entire thing stems back to my not 'getting' the feminism vs atheism thing
23:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> both groups want to be 'the special ones'
23:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> and target the same demographics
23:32 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, they are bot "special".
23:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> so they demagogue the other group to 'win' clicks/views
23:32 <@Bahhumbug> As in shortbus special.
23:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I'm the type that asks people (hell even aestetix) what their POV on things is, to try and understand it (especially if I don't agree with it) so that I can at least have a better grasp of the arguments...and I'm starting to wonder if the NCLB demographic just wasn't TAUGHT how to do that
23:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c it seems to come from 24/25 year olds and down or so
23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> whereas we just troll on purpose
23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> when WE enrage someone... it was done on purpose and for a cause... (generally our amusement... but still)
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23:55 < aestetix> RangerZ: I see you also hate millennials
23:57 <@Bahhumbug> You people have too narrow a focus. Don't limit your hate. Just hate everyone and be done with it.
23:59 < aestetix> RangerZ: someone pointed out to me recently the ironic parallel's between NCLB and the Left Behind series
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