--- Log opened Mon Aug 25 00:00:29 2014 00:05 <@notlarry> Setting all the alarms at work to "Never Gonna Give You Up" tomorrow. 00:09 < RangerZ> Dagmar: we should invite phil fish to speak at PN 00:09 <@Dagmar> Hell no 00:09 < RangerZ> ...thats not trolling at all... 00:12 < RangerZ> http://phreaknic.info/pn18/ 00:12 < RangerZ> who broke it ? 00:12 < RangerZ> lol 00:12 <@Dagmar> Huh? 00:12 < RangerZ> thats the old link 00:12 < RangerZ> now its just the root, that works 00:13 <@Dagmar> Why would hte _current_ site need an archive location? 00:13 < RangerZ> also... I thought we had a list of speakers 00:13 < RangerZ> b/c TBD isn't going to make me drive the 5min out of my way to stop at PN 00:16 <@Bahhumbug> Lies. 00:16 <@Bahhumbug> You know you want to hang out with crazybitch. 00:17 <@Dagmar> Well, the list of speakers probably isnt' up because of all the time spent worrying about drama 00:17 <@notlarry> What drama? 00:17 <@Dagmar> Oh the drama we caused by smashing the website. *snicker* 00:18 <@Bahhumbug> You damned hackers. 00:19 <@notlarry> ikr 00:20 <@Dagmar> I need more pictures of Dicks 00:20 <@Dagmar> So far I've got Dick Cheney, Richard Nixon, Dick Cavette, and Dick Trickle 00:21 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 00:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 00:21 <@Dagmar> Oooh Dick Van Dyke 00:21 <@Dagmar> I have to say, this is some rather dodgy Google searching 00:23 < aestetix> dick clarke 00:23 < aestetix> richard cheese 00:23 <@Bahhumbug> Here ya go: https://www.google.com/search?q=weev&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=SH8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Qbr6U-uCIcn3yQSUpoDwBQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1480&bih=744 00:23 < aestetix> dick costello 00:23 <@GateKeeper> Title: weev - Google Search (at www.google.com) 00:23 < aestetix> dick tracy 00:23 <@Bahhumbug> All the pictures of a dick you could want. 00:25 <@notlarry> I have a vague memory of a woman calling me to drop her internet because they could not afford a new cheerleader outfit for her daughter so she turned to webcrawler for help. 00:26 < RangerZ> dick clark 00:27 < RangerZ> damn.. wasn't scrolled all the way to the bottom 00:27 <@Dagmar> Dick Tracy is a good one 00:27 < RangerZ> moby dick 00:27 <@Dagmar> People have to be able to _recognize_ them so obscure Dicks are out 00:28 < RangerZ> http://www.famousbirthdays.com/names/dick.html 00:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Famous People Named Dick - Famous Dicks | Famous Birthdays (at www.famousbirthdays.com) 00:28 <@Dagmar> Tell me you didn't feel a little bit of concern before you clicked 'Search' 00:29 < RangerZ> i was REALLY accurate in my search query 00:29 < RangerZ> but yes 00:29 <@Dagmar> heheh 00:29 < RangerZ> Dick Butkus 00:29 <@Dagmar> Already got him 00:29 <@Dagmar> Nine Dicks will have to be enough 00:29 < RangerZ> Bill O'Reilly 00:29 <@Dagmar> HIs name isn't Dick 00:29 < RangerZ> i'm sorry... thats just being mean 00:30 < RangerZ>  Richard “Tricky Dick” Nixon 00:30 < RangerZ> interesting 00:30 < RangerZ> forgot his nick name 00:31 < RangerZ> that would be the 'i don't get it....' picture 00:31 < RangerZ> ...OHHH... 00:31 < RangerZ> lol 00:32 < RangerZ> ok chrome.. I know I have 16GB of ram... but why do you need to eat up 1gb of it when you are closed 00:32 <@Dagmar> Yes, I've already got the "He's a dick" angle covered 00:32 < RangerZ> yes... hangouts it up and running 00:32 < RangerZ> but still 00:32 <@notlarry> RangerZ: the dick cache... 00:33 < RangerZ> you should just make a campus wide share named: "PICS OF DICKS" 00:33 < RangerZ> I once found the shared drive of the dean at my undergrad 00:34 < RangerZ> they didn't have the CSIS dept's IT run their network for them... their own loss, lol 00:34 < RangerZ> it was accessiable from the _entire_ campus 00:42 <@notlarry> Wow, forgot, we opened for Dick Dale once, true story. 00:46 <@notlarry> wow, Dick Hyman, so close. 01:34 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_8RHSyS14 02:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: What REALLY Happened With Phil Fish and Zoe Quinn - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 02:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: so apparently 4chan/v/ is pissed that its getting blamed for the plane bomb threat and phil fish 02:05 <@Dagmar> They should probably take steps to do something about the kiddies pretending to speak for Anonymous and doing stupid shit 02:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah 02:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think gaming media is actually due for a fairly big shake up 02:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c it has something that very few other media formats has 02:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> wide range of youtube/twitch streamers who _don't_ give a fuck about 'access' 02:10 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sync350] by ChanServ 02:10 <@Dagmar> I at least partially agree with that 02:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> sure there are some that do 02:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> but you really only need a small % who are willing to call out BS, to keep the rest in check 02:12 <@Dagmar> Im' still wondering what Five Guys has to do with any of it 02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> they explain that in that video 02:12 <@Dagmar> Im' hoping someone will 02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> apparently the girl cheated on her ex with 5 guys, 02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> and now he calls her 5 guys with fries 02:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 02:13 <@Dagmar> Oh dawyum 02:13 <@Dagmar> lol 02:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> its so simple 02:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> but so funny 02:28 <@Dagmar> Heh. 02:29 <@Dagmar> After some quick Google searching, I'm not sure you're *allowed* to be angry about nudes being posted when you, yourself have shot seven or eight sets of them for multiple websites 02:29 <@Dagmar> ...and I suspect some other people are missing the point entirely that they did so 02:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> she's just upset she wasn't paid for them 02:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats all 02:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> heeh 02:30 <@Dagmar> Could be, but that's not really how those sites work 02:30 <@Dagmar> If she was wanting a per-viewer payment, she should have gone with Zivity 02:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> I like how you know the company name, their address , name of the PR director, and have his personal cell 02:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 02:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> like... Porn... I got this... 02:32 <@Dagmar> I didnt' even know who the hell she was 02:32 <@Dagmar> I google... "Hm... She's halfway cute. I like the hair." 02:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol... no i meant the pay per view info, lol 02:33 <@Dagmar> Oh for Zivity? 02:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno... that and your ringtone 02:33 <@Dagmar> Well, I don't have quite that information but I do know the girl who actually built and runs the site 02:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> just made me chuckle 02:33 <@Dagmar> I could call her and get it I suppose 02:33 <@Dagmar> She's a sweetie 02:34 <@Dagmar> The ringtone is a whole nother form of entertainment for me 02:34 <@Dagmar> BY the way... The girl that was doing the weird thing with the masks? 02:34 <@Dagmar> I caught her doing something weird again 02:34 <@Dagmar> DIdn't record it. 02:34 <@Dagmar> She was blowing a yard gnome. 02:35 <@Dagmar> I'm like, "Okay, that's strange as hell, but it's not quite what I was looking for." 02:35 <@Dagmar> Seemed a bit too overt somehow 02:36 <@Dagmar> ...and in case you're wondering _how_, she'd apparently attached a rubber dildo to a yard gnome 02:36 <@Dagmar> ...an actual, honest to god, ceramic yard gnome. 02:36 <@notlarry> Dagmar: That seems, well, a little, oh fuck it, I'll be right back... 02:36 <@Dagmar> heh 02:37 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: The thing that drew this girl to my attention is that one of my fellow "weird chasers" tapped me over IRC a few months back and demanded I visit some URL 02:37 <@Dagmar> Like, _demanded_. "YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS." 02:37 <@Dagmar> Would't explain it because it was unexplainable 02:37 <@Dagmar> Some girl on MFC was dancing around in the nude, with one of those horse masks on 02:37 <@Dagmar> ...but not just the horse mask. 02:38 <@Dagmar> Over her shoulders like some deranged armor, on one shoulder she had a bear mask, and on the other, a rabbit or something 02:38 <@Dagmar> ...and she was waving around an axe. 02:38 <@notlarry> Are you sure it wasn't just sjp? 02:38 <@Dagmar> sjp? 02:38 <@Dagmar> ...but it was _really_ freaking strange. 02:39 <@Dagmar> I couldn't have explained it at the time if I'd tried 02:39 <@Dagmar> So... Dude found a good one 02:39 <@Dagmar> Nudity aside, that was freaking _bizarre_ 02:39 <@notlarry> nude woman with horse face, Sarah Jessica Parker comes to mind... 02:39 <@Dagmar> So every so often I go hit up her site again in case she's doing something incredibly bizarre again 02:39 <@notlarry> Sorry, that was uncalled for. 02:40 <@Dagmar> Just because I was thinking to myself "No one will believe I saw this" 02:40 <@Dagmar> And then last week... blowing a yard gnome. 02:40 <@Dagmar> That's not something I can really tote around to weird people out with 02:41 <@Dagmar> the nude dancing could easily be argued as "art" 02:41 <@Dagmar> DAMN STRANGE art 02:41 <@Dagmar> The fact that she was nude was an almost trivial detail 02:41 <@notlarry> "The gnomes are cumming, the gnomes are cumming!" 02:41 <@Dagmar> I want a bit fo video that I can show someone that will be weird enough to make them _ignore the nude woman_ 02:42 <@notlarry> Dagmar: Did you ever see the movie " 02:42 <@Dagmar> Holy Motors? 02:42 <@notlarry> "The Gods Must Be Crazy?" 02:42 <@Dagmar> Oh yes. Long long ago 02:42 <@Dagmar> On VHS even 02:42 <@notlarry> That was a porno 02:43 <@Dagmar> Umm.. no. I did not see a porno version of it because I was like ten 02:43 <@notlarry> And someone looked at it in the editing room and went "wait, we have a plot here. A weird plot, but a plot" 02:43 <@Dagmar> HAHAH] 02:43 <@Dagmar> So you're saying htey were making a porno and cut all the porn parts out in the editing room? 02:43 <@notlarry> I'm saying, If you watch it with the information I just gave you you will see the signs. 02:43 <@Dagmar> lol 02:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh notlarry, you were the subject of discussion earlier, about your banning crazypants, lol 02:43 <@notlarry> I'm saying it has that feel, yeah. 02:44 <@notlarry> I banned crazypants? 02:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats one hell of a long porno originally if the 'acting' is a movie long 02:44 <@Dagmar> THe night she came in here and tried to start a fight with everyone while we were all AFK 02:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> anarchival 02:45 <@notlarry> I do not recall. I must have googled "how to ban this crazy bitch before she finds out where I keep my coffin... 02:45 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: I kinda want to take Dru aside and say "Look dude... You know my history. I am not even humoring the idea of sticking my dick in that. That's *how* crazy the person you're listening to is." 02:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno... part of me wonders about the two of them... 02:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> he seems to be the only guy she doesn't see as "her dagmar" or hate 02:46 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: So the wrist walkies are in theory charging, but I'm not sure the batteries have any reasonable capacity left 02:46 <@notlarry> the NotWife got the impression from crazypants that phreaknic was all about the porn and the subjegation of women. I explained to her the only porn I ever saw at phreaknic was gay porn. Seems gay porn is something my wife is ok with. 02:47 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: She definitely has a skewed perception of reality 02:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> notlarry: well you know what to do for your next wedding an. just invite Corydon over 02:47 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm astonished you let her near your wife 02:47 <@notlarry> Reset the throttle position sensor on my motorycle today dag. The changed the oil. Then I was too fucking tired to ride. 02:47 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Just rub it in 02:47 <@notlarry> Dagmar: didnn't, let her see some of the irc logs. 02:48 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: ...although I found another actually _really_ well-kept 2009 Kymco on Craigslist today for $900 02:48 <@Dagmar> It was tempting 02:48 <@Dagmar> It would even come with a little aluminum rack 02:48 <@notlarry> You should really give a buell a test drive. 02:48 <@Dagmar> I could literally go over there, pay the $900, remove the bumper from my car to mount the thing, and then tote it home 02:48 <@Dagmar> I will stick with twist & go 02:48 <@notlarry> I'm telling you. A 360lb motorcycle with a 1200cc vtwin. 02:49 <@Dagmar> Twist & flip over isn't what I'm interested in 02:49 <@notlarry> Yeah, even with my weight I think it could bring the front up in every gear. 02:50 <@Dagmar> Understand that I'm serious when I say, I am *not* getting on the interstate with the assholes in this city on a two-wheeled vehicle, unless I am allowed to mount a turret on the fucking thing 02:50 <@Dagmar> If I can somehow *shoot* any fucker that comes too close, then I'd consider it 02:51 <@Dagmar> The number of times the motherfuckers around here nearly ran me over on regular, "slow driving" streets is far too many 02:52 <@Dagmar> To get me on the interstate would require a high-velocity weapon that can fire armor-piercing rounds so that I can just burn a hole and drive through the wreckage 02:53 <@Dagmar> Oh I should bring this little bluetooth thing I got to the next meeting 02:53 <@Dagmar> It's actually pretty cool, especially considering I paid $10 for it 02:54 <@Dagmar> An old pair of multimedia speakers you can just cut a hole in the woofer, mount this thing, feed it 12v and connect the inputs to it 02:54 <@Dagmar> Instant Bluetooh speakers 02:55 <@Dagmar> I am seriously considering mounting it in the Altec Lansing set I have lying around doing nothing 02:55 <@Dagmar> It would just be annoying to waste 5.1-capable speakers on this 02:56 <@Dagmar> The amps on these things tend to run at 12v or 9v internally so... dead easy mod 03:11 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 07:23 -!- Dolemite [~scott@h96-60-248-228.cncrtn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #se2600 07:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 07:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:56 <@Wilpig> holy shit, some dude in the office next door took an irish shower this morning 07:56 <@Wilpig> I wonder how many bottles of cologne it took to make a stink cloud so heavy it's infiltrating our office this thoroughly 08:00 <@Wilpig> so Dolemite, thoughts on the new doctor? 08:11 <@Dolemite> The jury is still out 08:11 < aestetix> what is an irish shower? 08:11 <@Dolemite> booze 08:11 < aestetix> ahhh 08:11 < aestetix> figures 08:12 <@Bahhumbug> No water, just cologne or similar. 08:13 < aestetix> Is that like how a hippie shower is patchouli? 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @lists ud 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> sigh 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @list ud 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> Hmm, thought I had that loaded 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @list 08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Admin, Alias, Assorted, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, Currency, Filter, Format, Games, Geekquote, GeoIP, Google, Insult, Internet, IsItDown, Lart, Limiter, MLB, Math, MeetBot, MessageParser, Misc, Network, News, NickCapture, Nickometer, Note, Notify, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, Reply, RootWarner, Scheduler, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Status, Stock, (1 more message) 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @more 08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: String, Time, Todo, TopNews, Topic, TraktTV, URL, Unix, UrbanDictionary, User, Utilities, Weather, Web, Wikipedia, WolframAlpha, and Zipinfo 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> Meh 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @urbandictionary irish shower 08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: irish shower :: Overapplication of cologne, often to cover up the smell of liquor that persists while intoxicated. Usually upwards of 8 sprays. [ex:] "The room always reeks of cologne after McCoy takes his Irish shower" [/ex] | The use of deoderant and/or cologne to cover up lack of proper showering. [ex:] Woke up late for work so I had to go the Irish shower route. [/ex] 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @alias add ud urbandictionary $0 08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: By your command 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> @ud irish shower 08:14 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: shower :: Device that men use to wack off while at thier in-laws house [ex:] i masturbate so much in the shower when it rains i get a hard on [/ex] | A great place to jerk off when your a teenager and have little privacy. [ex:] Man i have a throbbing erection and i really need somewhere to explode my load! Hmmmm the house if full of people...."I'm taking a shower!"Alright party (5 more messages) 08:14 <@Bahhumbug> That's better. 08:15 < aestetix> uh 08:15 <@Wilpig> I may have to escape down to the dc to lose this coud 08:15 <@Wilpig> cloud* 08:15 < aestetix> Wilpig: just fart 08:15 <@Wilpig> wouldn't touch this 08:18 < aestetix> hmmm 08:18 < aestetix> I think I am gonna get a pager 08:19 <@Bahhumbug> The 80s called and want their tech back. 08:19 < aestetix> lol 08:19 < aestetix> Pagers are recieve only, so the NSA can't track coordinates. 08:22 <@Bahhumbug> You keep on thinking that. 08:22 < aestetix> How could they track it? 08:22 <@Bahhumbug> While that was true at one point, who knows what they're doing these days. 08:23 <@Bahhumbug> You're assuming that modern pagers haven't had their basic tech altered. 08:23 <@Bahhumbug> (It's incredibly unlikely that such a thing is possible, but I still won't take the bet) 08:24 < aestetix> There are other advantages to a pager as well. 08:24 < aestetix> I think "smart" phones feed an unhealthy addiction. 08:25 < aestetix> I'd be interested in stats on how often someone will refresh their twitter feed over and over and over until something useful looking pops up 08:26 <@Wilpig> if you were waiting on me to do that. you'd be waiting a hell of a long time 08:27 < aestetix> Wilpig: I've seen folks do it on the train, in a waiting room, etc 08:27 < aestetix> Any time when there's not some immediate stimulus. 08:28 <@Wilpig> speaking of immediate stimulus, time for a little more bravely default 08:28 <@Bahhumbug> aestetix: People are morons. 08:28 <@Bahhumbug> That's what it all comes down to. 08:28 <@Bahhumbug> Personally, I'd rather read a book than use a smartphone and waste my life on twitter. 08:29 <@Bahhumbug> Of course I would also rather staple my nuts to a tree trunk than use twitter at all. 08:30 * Wilpig hands Bahhumbug a stapler 08:30 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: yep 08:30 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: life has been so much better without twitter 08:31 <@Bahhumbug> Wilpig: I don't use twitter nor do I have a desire to do so. 08:31 * Bahhumbug gives the stapler back 08:48 <@Wilpig> come on... be a sport. 08:51 <@Bahhumbug> Can I use it to staple weev's junk to a tree trunk? 08:51 <@Bahhumbug> And hand him a dull, rusty butter knife? 08:53 <@Wilpig> i'd be fine with that 08:57 <@Bahhumbug> Excellent. 10:01 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Quit: timezones! graaaaa!] 10:13 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 10:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 10:21 < aestetix> so nice to wake up to our jobs server being down 10:21 <@Bahhumbug> Stop breaking shit. 10:22 < aestetix> right 10:24 < frsilent> looks like someone.... 10:25 <@Dagmar> http://nashville.craigslist.org/sys/4623429627.html <-- shitload of hardware for cheap 10:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: IBM Netfinity 4500R 2-CPU, 4GB RAM Server & EXP300 (RAID 5) SCSI Drive (at nashville.craigslist.org) 10:27 < aestetix> is it sad that 4 gigs sounds tiny to me? 10:28 -!- nightcarnage1 [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:29 <@Bahhumbug> 4g maxes that chassis out. 10:30 <@Dagmar> Interesting 10:30 <@Dagmar> Someone on Craigslist is selling a crapton of WRT54G routers for $20 each 10:31 <@Bahhumbug> I bought 5 spares a few months ago just to keep 'em around here. 10:31 <@Bahhumbug> $25 each, so roughly the same price. 10:31 -!- vaneck_ [~vaneck@section9.vaneckzero.com] has joined #se2600 10:32 -!- Weredickie [~Dickie@75.76.59.66] has joined #se2600 10:32 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@unaffiliated/am1n0] has joined #se2600 10:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o am1n0] by ChanServ 10:32 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ogkegqqkvhuqgzfn] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- am1n0_ [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- Dickie [~Dickie@unaffiliated/dickie] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- vaneck [~vaneck@section9.vaneckzero.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32 -!- EnabrinTain [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-susctsaztruafasr] has joined #se2600 10:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o EnabrinTain] by ChanServ 10:33 <@Wilpig> gotta love the confidence you feel when you open a replacement motherboard to find pieces of the motherboard rolling around freely in the static bag 10:34 -!- Weredickie is now known as Dickie 10:34 <@Bahhumbug> heh 10:34 -!- Dickie [~Dickie@75.76.59.66] has quit [Changing host] 10:34 -!- Dickie [~Dickie@unaffiliated/dickie] has joined #se2600 10:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dickie] by ChanServ 10:34 <@Bahhumbug> You need to stop breaking shit, too. 10:34 * Bahhumbug hides 10:34 <@Wilpig> the best thing I can say for this is "dude you got a dell" 10:34 <@Dagmar> Try opening them with your bare hands instead of a crobar 10:34 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 10:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 10:36 <@Wilpig> where the fuck is kaleem this morning? 10:38 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 10:39 <@Wilpig> anyone know who got ahold of the pn twitter account yesterday that went in and started following everyone that had ever followed pn ? I got a handful of texts from confused people asking wtf I was doing 10:40 <@Dagmar> I can think of two people who woulnd't know that's pointless 10:42 <@Wilpig> it went from a few follows to 200+ I went and checked the authorized apps to make sure it hadn't been cracked into and nothign new was there so someone logged into the webinterface to do it 10:42 <@Dagmar> Ask on the mailing list 10:43 <@Wilpig> I can't. my posts aren't allowed 10:43 <@Dagmar> *Someone* is probably snorting some SEO bullshit 10:43 <@Dagmar> They should be now 10:43 <@Wilpig> just pass along the message from me "I don't know what your intent was but you did manage to confuse several people" 10:46 <@Dagmar> If theres a useful reason to follow a bajillion people on Twitter, I'd like to hear it 10:46 <@Dagmar> So I'm asking on the list 10:46 <@Dickie> "I was followed by someone on Twitter. HOW MINDBOGGLING" 10:46 <@Dagmar> Well, It's a freaking twitter account 10:47 <@Dagmar> ...for an *event* 10:47 <@Dagmar> It doesn't need to listen, it only needs to broadcast. 10:47 <@Wilpig> there is only ONE reason I can think of and it is so fucking remote I dare to speak it 10:47 <@Wilpig> so I'm not going to where there might be ears 10:47 <@Dickie> The Jews 10:47 <@Dickie> I was thinking the same thing 10:48 <@Wilpig> back to my motherbaord 10:56 <@shapr> yay! I have a face! 10:56 <@Wilpig> I wouldn't celebrate it. there is still time to get a better one 11:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.858347-Zoe-Quinn-and-the-surrounding-controversy 11:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> so if that isn't interesting 11:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> apparently other major game sites have banned discussion of this topic 11:12 <@Wilpig> heh. I think that is what I read about on 4chan 11:12 <@Wilpig> if it is, meh. she isn't that hot 11:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much 11:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> but lets be honest, we both probably see more women than game journalists do 11:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> tumblr and a college aren't exactly wastelands like most devs studios are 11:15 <@Wilpig> if it is the one i'm thinking of. she's bitching about some nudes going around? 11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, but thats not what this is about 11:16 < aestetix> I should not click, but I'm going to anyways 11:16 <@Wilpig> the funny part of it was she knew damn well they would get around when she took them cause they are in the suicide girls style 11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: ohh its about SJW 11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> and all that 11:16 < aestetix> I figured 11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> but she's the girl being called 5 guys and fries 11:16 < aestetix> ouch 11:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c she slept with 5 guys when she had a b/f 11:17 < aestetix> you know 11:17 < aestetix> sexism goes both ways 11:17 < aestetix> is all I'm sayin 11:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> just think about 'women power' songs... imagine a guy going to his ex's car and smashing it with a baseball bat and keying it 11:18 < aestetix> I'm a fan of women power if it means women have equal legal rights to men 11:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> no one in their right mind would EVER think that song would get airplay 11:18 < aestetix> not otherwise 11:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> though TBH... i don't care much about lyrics to songs, or music in general, so i'm probably being over broad with the term 'women power' songs, b/c I can't even think of the name or artist who performs the song about her trashing her ex's car so he won't cheat anymore ... or w/e 11:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 11:19 < aestetix> http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/tldr/ 11:20 < aestetix> "Pretend we didn’t need to use protection whenever we had sex while we were broken up" 11:20 < aestetix> sorry but that one falls on him equally 11:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> yes/no 11:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> if she was on the pill, then protection was only for stds 11:21 < aestetix> but the "while we were broken up" part 11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... it still makes sense 11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> taking a break 11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc 11:21 <@Dolemite> So who is this Zoe Quinn? 11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> some female game dev 11:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> who is in the "in" crowd 11:22 <@brimstone> she can post to the phreaknic list? 11:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno, but it might at least add more up to date information, even if it Feminist 11:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> maybe get her to be a speaker 11:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> her and her friend phil fish , lol 11:24 < aestetix> https://i.imgur.com/iSEPh6a.png 11:25 < aestetix> so that's the phil fish guy? 11:25 <@Wilpig> aestetix: the drupal logo 11:25 < aestetix> oh lol 11:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> same thing , game dev in the 'in crowd' 11:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> they are all basically just HS drama queens/kings, but its kinda interesting them showing the incestuous nature of 'games journalism' right now 11:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats what I personally think is the more interesting angle on this 11:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> she was sleeping with a journalist who covered her industry, and reviewed her game in the past 11:27 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: that sounds like a conflict of interest 11:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then allegedly having kotaku (thats the site) write articles in a certain direction 11:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> the Feminism angle on stuff 11:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> at least the guy she was sleeping with at the time 11:28 < aestetix> So basically 11:28 < aestetix> This sounds like people don't know boundaries 11:28 < aestetix> None of that crap in the post was relevant except for the conflict of interest reporter who 11:28 < aestetix> reporter thing 11:29 <@Wilpig> btw.. NSFW http://imgur.com/a/Y6EyK#0 NSFW 11:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Zoe Quinn in all her glory - Imgur (at imgur.com) 11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> really? 11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats all 11:29 <@shapr> do not want 11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... do not want 11:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> been a while... and i'd still not hit 11:30 <@Wilpig> that's what she's complaining about making the rounds. they're fucking watermarked for distribution for fucks sake 11:30 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: you and wilpig should hang out ;) 11:30 <@shapr> haven't seen it, don't wanna see it. 11:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> shapr: nothing interesting 11:30 <@shapr> ok 11:30 <@Wilpig> shapr: don't be a pussy 11:30 <@shapr> I have work to do. 11:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> just these images make her face look like a guys 11:30 <@shapr> [zip(xrange(len(y)),y) for y in [zip(xrange(len(x)),x) for x in somelist]] 11:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> fucking python 11:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> if python got rid of duct typing it might actually be useful to me,lol 11:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> (yes i know... thats the thing that most people love about it) 11:32 <@shapr> heh, duct typing :-) 11:32 <@shapr> nah, I hate the lack of real typing in Python 11:32 <@opticron> shapr, you're not missing anything by not looking 11:32 <@shapr> mind you, C/C++/Java aren't much better about typing. 11:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> i dunno I think java's system isn't too bad, java 8 basically added in mutli-inheritance 11:34 <@Wilpig> but it's still java 11:34 <@Wilpig> you can't overlook that 11:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, but java of yester-year is nothing like java of now 11:35 <@Wilpig> damned zombies 11:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> unlike php, it fucking gets rid of some of the crap parts of its language 11:35 < aestetix> ok enough of that zoe quinn crap 11:35 <@Wilpig> aestetix: did you really need anything past the pictures? 11:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> well he wanted to read more about TRUE feminism 11:36 < aestetix> I read a few of the forum posts and closed the tab 11:38 <@shapr> RangerZ|Laptop: Ever used a language with type inference? 11:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> python 11:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> or you mean something more like scala 11:39 <@shapr> Nah, Python has dynamic typing 11:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> c++11 has it actually 11:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> though I haven't used that 11:39 <@shapr> Yeah, something more like scala 11:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> no, not really 11:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> you? 11:40 <@shapr> Yeah, lots 11:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> your opinion? 11:41 <@shapr> Makes other type systems feel really clunky. 11:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> its tough on security 11:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> i know that much 11:41 <@shapr> You get all the benefits of Python, all the benefits of C/Java/etc, and some extra on top. 11:41 <@shapr> How so? 11:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> input validation apparently becomes REALLY messy (or can) depending on the actual implementation 11:42 <@shapr> Hm, got any examples? I'm not quite clear. 11:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> i read some papers on it when i was working on my masters project 11:42 <@shapr> Do you mean type-safe parsing string inputs? 11:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> partially , but its actually the compiler/tools that become difficult 11:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> like "0" what is that a string or a number 11:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc 11:44 <@shapr> "0" is a string, but 0 is a number 11:44 -!- lambdabot [~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu] has joined #se2600 11:44 <@shapr> :t 0 11:44 < lambdabot> Num a => a 11:44 <@shapr> :t "0" 11:44 < lambdabot> [Char] 11:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 11:45 <@shapr> But you also get to nail down types if you wish 11:45 <@shapr> :t 0 :: Float 11:45 < lambdabot> Float 11:45 <@shapr> :t 0 :: Int 11:45 < lambdabot> Int 11:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, I'm saying, it depends on what else the language does, to mitigate these problems 11:45 <@opticron> :t 1 :: ToasterOven 11:45 < lambdabot> Not in scope: type constructor or class ‘ToasterOven’ 11:45 <@shapr> yeah, good point 11:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c without those language constraints, you can get fucked hard 11:46 <@shapr> RangerZ|Laptop: I'd like to know more about the security problems, happen to remember any of the papers you read? 11:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> no, but i'll look 11:46 <@shapr> Yeah, Haskell has a sweet spot between doing some stuff for you, but not too much stuff. 11:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> they were more theoretical security issues, not 'real' ones 11:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> and the papers were older 11:47 <@shapr> Python has a very different spot, but still a bunch of good points to where it sits. 11:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> but anyways, off to work 11:47 * shapr waves 11:47 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:48 <@shapr> opticron: You can declare a type with that name, how would it be structured? 11:48 <@opticron> like a toasteroven 11:48 * shapr thinks about that 11:49 <@shapr> data ToasterOven = Toaster [Maybe Bread] 11:49 <@shapr> data Bread = Bread | Toast 11:49 <@opticron> needs an interface for things that are toasterovenable 11:49 <@shapr> oh, ok 11:50 * shapr thinks a bit 11:54 <@shapr> opticron: http://lpaste.net/5893147020801081344 11:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: ToasterOven :: lpaste — Lambda pastebin (at lpaste.net) 11:56 <@opticron> indeed 11:56 <@shapr> that's not a very useful typeclass though 11:57 <@shapr> typeclasses are similar to interfaces in Java 11:57 <@Wilpig> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087086 <-- Bahhumbug, fix it 11:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: Bug 1087086 lshw seg fault unless use -disable SCSI option (at bugzilla.redhat.com) 12:11 <@Dolemite> Any decent movies supposed to open this weekend? 12:18 <@oddball> I believe there are some theaters showing Ghostbusters for the 30th anniversary. 12:19 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: don't think so, but sin city opened last weekend 12:19 <@oddball> And in other news... Ghostbusters came out 30 years ago, and you're old. 12:19 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: Ah. Then I may just take 2.0 to TMNT. Have a Regal shop to do. 12:20 <@opticron> huh...just realized that the new transformers is already out 12:20 <@opticron> is it even worth watching? 12:21 <@opticron> RT of 18% has it in that sweet spot where it might be just bad enough to be enjoyable 12:21 <@Wilpig> you're dead to me Dolemite 12:22 <@Wilpig> friends don't let friends ruin a franchise by supporting the new TMNT 12:22 <@oddball> I know someone who went to see TMNT. Apparently it features Megan Fox... alot... 12:22 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: Well he's already been to GotG. I'll give him a choice, and the franchise is already ruined by the fact that they made enough to declare a sequel. 12:23 <@oddball> Hmmm... that reminds me... I still need to go see the Expendables 3. 12:24 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: teach him the importantance of a repeat viewing of GotG 12:25 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: I also have to worry about keeping count of how many people are in the theater. I figured it would be a cakewalk at TMNT. ;) 12:26 <@Dolemite> Plus this way I'm not actually supporting it, because the theater has to write it off as an expense. 12:26 <@Wilpig> lame excuse 12:33 < aestetix> I can tell that the Obamacare enrollment period is coming up because I am getting lots of health care spam 12:36 < aestetix> oh god someone is attacking HP Lovecraft for being racist 12:51 <@shapr> aestetix: well, that's not hard 12:54 < aestetix> shapr: the "I am not sexist or racist" shit has gotten so bad in the bay area that nobody wants to talk about anything anymore for fear of being called out 12:55 <@shapr> yup, I think so too 12:56 < aestetix> the party I was at on saturday was so lame 12:56 < aestetix> mostly for that reason 13:04 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has joined #se2600 13:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.linkedin.com/jobs2/view/18888467 13:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> nvm... wrong channel 13:10 < aestetix> penis 13:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: got a question for you 13:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> since you're the most likely to have an idea of where to look for this (god this could be bad) but I'm curious if you have a, or know of a, link or book or something that talks about this 'new' feminism in a non-judgmental manner 13:15 < aestetix> the new wave, you mean? 13:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'm familiar with the 1st wave, 2nd wave, 3rd wave, etc distinctions, and I'm curious as to what these new ones believe that is different 13:15 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: look up "sex positive feminism" 13:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c I consider myself a pretty progressive person when it comes to women's rights, etc... but there are all these new terms like "cis male" etc, that I honestly had no clue what they were 13:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> I had to ask Corydon76-home wtf "sys male" was (heard it on a podcast) 13:16 <@Corydon76-home> cis-male 13:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah i know now, and write it above 13:17 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, I see. 13:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> part of this is that I don't read 4chan anymore, and never got into reddit 13:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> or god forbid tumblr/etc 13:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> so i'm not up to date with drama 13:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> Corydon76-home: you might know also, any good non-biased discussion of the new feminism? 13:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> and thats an open question to anyone really, male or female or other 13:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 13:20 <@Corydon76-home> You're asking someone who doesn't keep up with the various feminist movements 13:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> well how dare you 13:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 13:21 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: keep in mind I don't really like labels 13:21 < aestetix> nor do I have time for all these new complaints 13:21 < aestetix> for example the idiots who have decided "tranny" is super offensive, and have shamed all the stuff from the 70s about trannies 13:21 <@Corydon76-home> Basic problem would be that feminism is at its core, just a really simple idea: that women are treated equally bad as men. 13:22 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: reminds me of a phrase I heard: "I don't understand why women want to be our equals. They're better than us and always have been." 13:23 <@Corydon76-home> Because until everybody is equal, nobody is. 13:23 < aestetix> This is why I say "legal equality" 13:23 < aestetix> because that's the only equality there is 13:24 <@Corydon76-home> We've come a long ways from when, about 100 years ago, women weren't even permitted to own property. 13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> god damn it... 13:24 < aestetix> Well the issue is 13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> a meeting at the center of campus... and i'm on music row 13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> :/ 13:24 < aestetix> A lot of people have decided to not listen to anything older than 20 years ago, because it was "racist" or "sexist" 13:24 < aestetix> thus throwing out all the lessons and traditions we've had for years 13:25 <@Corydon76-home> Uh, yeah. It's also why there are still 18yo's having unprotected sex and becoming HIV positive. 13:25 < aestetix> huh? 13:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c they aren't taught about the past 13:26 < aestetix> oh 13:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> i think is his point 13:26 < aestetix> yeah 13:26 < aestetix> man 13:26 <@Corydon76-home> Because they refuse to listen to stuff we knew 20 years ago 13:26 < aestetix> That reminds me of when some bay area idiots accused my friend of oppressing them 13:26 < aestetix> because he's a white male 13:26 < aestetix> he's gay, in his 50s, and has lived in the bay area for 30 years 13:26 < aestetix> such an oppressor 13:27 <@Corydon76-home> They clearly didn't understand the feminist theory behind that. 13:27 <@Corydon76-home> It's not that people are actually oppressors. It's that the system has a tendency to keep historic disadvantages in place. 13:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> you don't have to FOLLOW the past, but you should be aware of it 13:28 <@Corydon76-home> Just like people don't have to ACTUALLY be racists to benefit from the historic advantages given to white people 13:29 <@Dolemite> Music over 20 years old is racist? 13:29 <@Dolemite> That brings a completely new light to Eine Kleine Nachtmusik 13:30 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: no, but the music industry as a whole is, because mainstream still recommends black artists to niche markets. 13:30 <@Dolemite> It's STILL racist 13:31 <@Dolemite> And it all sounds like gobbledy gook. Get off my lawn!#%!@#$!@# 13:31 * Dolemite waves his cane defiantly before taking another hit from the O2 tank 13:32 <@Corydon76-home> If, as a promoter, you suggest a black artist would be more successful at a historically black label, you may be absolutely correct in the assessment, with no actual ill-will towards the artist. That's institutional racism. 13:34 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:48 <@Mirage> I've had this damned song stuck in my head for a week. Everyone should share my pain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzlMeTxVdH8 13:49 <@Mirage> Bot fail: the flaming lips - "yoshimi battles the pink robots part 1" 13:51 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: I seem to recall AIDS really started becoming an issue in the mid 80's...30 years ago... 13:52 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: It did, but the understanding that condoms would prevent the disease didn't come until later. 13:53 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has joined #se2600 13:54 <@Mirage> RangerZ|Laptop: 115.25? Isn't that the old "iDev workstation" network? 13:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> huh? 13:55 <@Dolemite> your ip address. it's showing 13:55 * Mirage really needs to find a way to purge all the VU-specific knowledge from his head 13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> i thats not the IP i see 13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> internal 10.42..... 13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> so I dunno 13:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> wifi on the public network doesn't get statics anymore 13:56 <@Mirage> I bet NetSec reclaimed it after iDev got kicked over to EAI and are using it for NAT gateways now, then 13:59 <@Mirage> Here's Dolemite when back at SUN.. (yes, i know it's an advertisement) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_l9XvGZA4 13:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: InFocus MVP100 Video Phone: Crazy - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:06 <@Mirage> Morning radio played this song this morning and started a mild uproar of parents calling in: (ignore the fact it's old country and just listen to the words.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zoTLwrm9QE 14:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Sad Song Teddy Bear by Red Sovine - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:09 <@Mirage> aestetix: you should enjoy that link starting at ~2:55 in 14:28 <@notlarry> Corydon76-home I still love the fact that the "black" sound everyone wanted on the records came from a half a dozen "good ol' boys" in Muscle Shoals. 14:29 <@Wilpig> red sovine is buried in nashville. stupid ingress I shouldn't know that 14:32 <@Mirage> Wilpig: lol 14:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> but the real question is... Where is Red Green buried ? 14:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 14:39 <@Wilpig> RangerZ|Laptop: I don't know but I suspect Blue had something to do with it 14:58 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@129.59.115.25] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:00 <@shapr> @quote research.language 15:00 < lambdabot> Jafet says: Haskell is an abstract research language used only in academia, education, banking, stock trading, circuit design, embedded systems, cryptography, operating systems research, bioinformatics, phone apps, and web services. 15:00 <@shapr> @quote YAHOO 15:00 < lambdabot> No quotes match. My brain just exploded 15:00 <@shapr> hmm 15:00 <@shapr> oh well 15:01 <@Corydon76-home> The symbol is probably something like YHOO 15:01 <@shapr> @quote YHOO 15:01 < lambdabot> No quotes match. Have you considered trying to match wits with a rutabaga? 15:01 <@GateKeeper> shapr: The current price of YHOO is 37.70, as of 2:46pm EST. A change of -0.31 from the last business day. 15:01 <@shapr> ah, neat 15:02 <@shapr> It's funny to me that @ became the most common prefix irc bot symbol because I statred using it to call lambdabot plugin commands. 15:02 <@Corydon76-home> Stock symbols are generally 1-4 characters 15:03 <@Corydon76-home> @quote AAPL 15:03 < lambdabot> No quotes match. stty: unknown mode: doofus 15:03 <@Bahhumbug> Can you please change your bot's activate trigger here? 15:03 <@Bahhumbug> activation, even 15:03 <@shapr> lambdabot: @part #se2600 15:04 -!- lambdabot [~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu] has left #se2600 [] 15:14 <@Wilpig> damnit shapr. don't bring yahoo stock going down in price to my attention, asshole 15:15 <@Wilpig> unless i'm about to buy a bunch, then by all means make that shit drop 15:23 < aestetix> fucking comcast 15:24 < aestetix> two hours of outage 15:32 <@Wilpig> I hate automated tech support responses 15:32 <@Wilpig> and for this jackass's sake I hope it's automated 15:32 <@Bahhumbug> heh 15:33 <@Wilpig> my email to them "We've got a card we believe to be bad. We cannot run diagnostics on it because it causes a myriad of system errors and when the virident driver goes to load it segfaults out. I'm attaching a copy of the event log from the idrac controller." 15:33 <@Wilpig> also included serial number and a few other details 15:33 <@Wilpig> their response "We have received your support request and a case #1908 has been created. An engineer will contact you shortly to assist you further. Please if possible can you run vgc-diags and provide those." 15:33 <@Wilpig> and it started with "hello wilbur," 15:36 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:38 <@Mirage> Wilpig: Could have been worse...could have been IBM telling you to update the firmware first and then run the diagnostics. 15:38 <@Mirage> Because that's their answer to everything. 15:38 <@Bahhumbug> Heh. I remember that from years past. Good to see things never change in Big Blue land. 15:58 <@Wilpig> someone just stepped on a duck in the 40' tall echo'y stairwell 16:00 < RangerZ> is howard alright? 16:04 <@Bahhumbug> http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/08/amazon-not-google-reportedly-buying-twitch-for-1-billion/ 16:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Amazon—not Google—reportedly buying Twitch for $1 billion | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) 16:04 <@Bahhumbug> How the fuck is twitch worth 1B USD? 16:06 < frsilent> some of those streamers make bank 16:06 < frsilent> I work with a company that does video guides on how to be better at video games 16:06 < frsilent> & negotiated with some asian canadian girl that wanted $500 per ~5m video 16:07 <@Bahhumbug> Really? 16:07 <@Bahhumbug> I wasn't aware of that. 16:07 < frsilent> which is what skill-capped offers their content makers 16:07 < frsilent> which makes about $260k/mo 16:08 < frsilent> well...it's a lucrative market is all that I'm trying to highlight 16:08 <@Bahhumbug> Right. 16:08 < RangerZ> they are the first company who has actually _working_ live streaming of 50k+ that doesn't crash shit every time too 16:08 <@Bahhumbug> I just wasn't aware of that. 16:08 < RangerZ> google still can't hadle that properly 16:08 <@Bahhumbug> I've been on twitch _maybe_ 5 times. 16:09 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09 < frsilent> honestly I wouldn't ever watch it if it weren't part of the business 16:09 < frsilent> but some people love making celebrities out of gamers 16:09 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:10 < frsilent> this girl had such an ego... 16:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> which one? 16:10 < frsilent> made a deal to share with me that she made $280k/yr + 16:10 < frsilent> itshaffie or something 16:10 < frsilent> maybe hafu 16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> huh? 16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> wtf are you talking about 16:11 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@ip68-14-145-121.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:11 < frsilent> http://www.twitch.tv/itshafu ***not canadian 16:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitch (at www.twitch.tv) 16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh ok 16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> that can't be as bad as 'itcuties' on youtube 16:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> they have "pornstar pretty" girls tell you programming stuff 16:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> which they OBVIOUSLY don't understand 16:13 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@ip68-14-145-121.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #se2600 16:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 16:13 < frsilent> I played a lot of competitive counter-strike when I was younger and the keyboard warrioring is pretty rampant 16:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 16:15 < frsilent> I mean, it's expected everywhere with those age groups but man I hate dealing with some of the emotionally immature people of it 16:15 < frsilent> but like I said...there's good money to be found 16:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> pewdiepie makes like 3m/yr 16:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> or something 16:15 < frsilent> jesus 16:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> in his fake high pitched sweedish voice 16:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> linus tech tips makes like 200k/yr or something 16:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> to support like 4~5 full time employees 16:23 -!- strages_ is now known as strages 16:34 < aestetix> I think I am stoned 16:40 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:44 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 16:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 16:45 * shapr hugs klixa 16:48 < RangerZ> klixa: good news 16:48 < RangerZ> at least you aren't called Five Guys and Fries ;) 16:49 -!- sync350 [~sync@c-24-99-250-250.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: wtfsleepomg] 16:50 < RangerZ> for the daily disapointment: https://phreaknic.info/node/1/speakers still nothing listed 16:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Speakers | PhreakNIC (at phreaknic.info) 16:58 <@Wilpig> RangerZ: at least the installer is gone 16:59 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 17:02 -!- nightcarnage1 [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 17:10 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:23 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:31 <@Bahhumbug> I predict that sites gets hacked either just before the event or during the event. 17:31 <@Bahhumbug> s/sites/site/ 17:36 < RangerZ> with lots of dicks on it? 17:37 < RangerZ> lol 17:38 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40 < aestetix> vagina 17:41 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: Now, now... leave Zoe Quinn out of this. 17:42 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:42 * RangerZ golf claps 17:42 < RangerZ> 2 under par on that round 17:49 -!- nightcarnage [~nightcarn@c-69-137-118-213.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:58 -!- rattleX [~rattleXx@74.10.169.50] has joined #se2600 17:59 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 17:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 18:00 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 18:01 -!- rattle [~rattleXx@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:01 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:04 < aestetix> there should be a movie called Penistiltskin 18:06 <@Bahhumbug> @google Penistiltskin 18:06 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: No matches found. 18:06 <@Bahhumbug> Holy Shit. 18:06 <@Bahhumbug> No one made a porn out of that? 18:06 <@Wilpig> wow. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732523/Chef-dies-spitting-cobra-cooking-bit-hand-20-minutes-cut-head-off.html 18:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Chef Peng Fan dies after cobra bit him 20 minutes after he had cut head off | Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk) 18:06 <@Bahhumbug> It's the daily mail - how valid is that story? 18:07 <@Wilpig> valid. 18:07 -!- K4k__ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 18:07 < aestetix> There should also be a movie about the roman emperor Testiclus 18:07 <@Wilpig> it's a non-hype story, more of a wtf 18:09 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 18:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 18:10 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:10 < aestetix> @google testiclus 18:12 -!- sasquatc2 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has joined #se2600 18:14 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@73.181.12.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:15 <@Bahhumbug> @google testiclus 18:15 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Ricky Gervais: Why Im an Atheist - Speakeasy - WSJ - WSJ Blogs: ; CalPhotos: Browse Invertebrate-other Photos by Scientific Names: ; The Sons of Emperor Norton - Members: (3 more messages) 18:15 <@Bahhumbug> @more 18:15 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: ; Testicular Pain (Pain in the Testicles) Symptoms, Causes, Treatment ...: ; Effects of rare earth nitrate on internal organs and mineral elements ...: ; aching balls - Search for Conditions | Medical Advice | Health ...: (2 more messages) 18:15 < aestetix> haha 18:18 -!- K4k__ [~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:28 < RangerZ> so... reddit shadowbanning people who are posting on the subreddit about this 18:33 < aestetix> what does shaddowbanning mean 18:33 < aestetix> RangerZ: are you still on about that zoe chick? 18:33 < aestetix> and what subreddit 18:33 < aestetix> cause I wanna see drama 18:34 <@Wilpig> notlarry: http://t.co/8x9AZwirOx 18:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Rob DenBleyker on Twitter: http://t.co/8x9AZwirOx (at t.co) 18:35 -!- brimston3 [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 18:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimston3] by ChanServ 18:38 < RangerZ> aestetix: yeah... its 'banning' but you don't realize you are banned, YOU can see your posts, but no one else can (as far as I understand it) 18:40 <@Wilpig> hahaha https://twitter.com/RyankHudson/status/492068490233126912/photo/1 18:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ryan Hudson on Twitter: Someone told me you were way into comics. Drew one. For you. http://t.co/uagjQIob0h http://t.co/MEum8ddhX7 (at twitter.com) 18:40 < RangerZ> http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2ecvrb/latest_zoe_quinn_drama_explodes/ 18:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Latest Zoe Quinn drama explodes. SpiritualSuccessors takes on the job of undertaker and ferryman across the styx to /r/Shadowban. : SubredditDrama (at www.reddit.com) 18:40 < RangerZ> there is a compilation of some of the drama 18:41 < aestetix> some of 18:41 < aestetix> how much fucking drama is there 18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Too much. 18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously... 18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Why is anyone caring about this? 18:43 <@Bahhumbug> Fucking internet drama. 18:44 < RangerZ> I think its a culmination of a lot of people being pissed at a lot of different things 1) SJW 2) the 'new' Feminists 3) censorship & false DMCA takedowns 4) game journalism (Which has had issues lately) 18:44 < RangerZ> I'm kinda interested in it from a meta perspective 18:44 < aestetix> who are the new feminists 18:44 < RangerZ> the game journalism and censorship interest me more than the rest 18:45 < RangerZ> aestetix: the people you know as 'feminists' b/c I've never met or talked to a female who considered themselves a 'feminist' like that until crazypants 18:45 <@Bahhumbug> None of this interests me. I just can't be bothered with this idiocy. 18:45 < aestetix> fauxminists you mean 18:46 < RangerZ> I like to use the term that people want to call themselves 18:46 < RangerZ> but I'll use modifiers 18:46 < RangerZ> but yes 18:46 < RangerZ> and Zoe is one of them 18:46 < aestetix> so you use nigga? 18:46 <@Dagmar> GOod lord 18:46 <@Dagmar> That's a giant mess 18:46 <@Bahhumbug> That's fucking offensive. 18:46 < RangerZ> umm no 18:47 < RangerZ> and you know what I mean, what they want called 18:48 < RangerZ> when you can have a single drama-storm including reddit, 4chan, youtube, and every major gaming website out there (which they are all killing discussion of this topic apparently in their forums) 18:48 < RangerZ> you have a Perfect Storm situation 18:49 < RangerZ> you whats funny.... 18:49 < RangerZ> someone working at the 5 guys corp. office, doing a normal analysis of google trending of '5 guys' in google search... 18:49 < RangerZ> and seeing their 'wtf' reaction 18:50 < aestetix> http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/2dzc7x/rgaming_mods_are_deleting_every_comment_that_is/ 18:50 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I'm sure their incident summary will be TL;DR: We don't want to go anywhere near this. 18:51 < RangerZ> pretty much 18:51 < RangerZ> OR they have someone searching the doxxs to find a 6th 18:51 < RangerZ> hehe 18:52 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps if people would spend more time worrying about shit that matters this planet wouldn't be quite so fucked as it is now. 18:52 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: agreed 18:52 < aestetix> However this is kind of entertaining 18:53 < aestetix> http://indiestatik.com/2014/03/31/most-expensive-game-jam/ 18:53 < RangerZ> yep, these people are just FULL of BS 18:54 <@Bahhumbug> This is an entertaining as not being able to pull your eyes from a trainwreck. 18:54 <@Bahhumbug> I mean, spend your time as you see fit. But I just don't find this trash worth it. 18:54 * Bahhumbug shrugs 18:54 <@Bahhumbug> Maybe I just don't care enough. 18:57 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: I don't consider it profound, but it's sort of like how folks watch sports games. 18:58 <@Bahhumbug> I've got $5 USD that says you don't watch sports. 18:58 <@Bahhumbug> So is this your sport? 18:58 <@Bahhumbug> :) 18:59 < aestetix> Yes 18:59 < aestetix> It's sort of like digital gladiators 19:00 < RangerZ> Bahhumbug: and lets be honest... most of the pro sports now suck 19:00 < RangerZ> lol 19:00 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, I can't argue that. 19:00 <@Bahhumbug> My bro-in-law was talking about the Titans at dinner last week. I had to ask him what team he was talking about. And I used to follow pro football religiously. 19:01 <@Dagmar> I'll watch Women's UFC because they know not to beat up their girlfriends. 19:01 < aestetix> who are the titans 19:01 <@Bahhumbug> I just haven't been able to get into it past the Bears / Steelers for the past couple years. 19:01 < RangerZ> Nashville NFL team 19:01 < aestetix> ah 19:01 <@Bahhumbug> Bunch of spoiled primadoma pussies. 19:01 <@Bahhumbug> Err, primadona? 19:01 <@Bahhumbug> Whatever. 19:01 < RangerZ> the first time I'd ever heard of the clippers was the drama over them, but I don't like basketball, etc 19:02 -!- brimston3 [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Quit: wtf] 19:04 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 19:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 19:17 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmy5OKg6lo 19:17 < aestetix> RangerZ: this is helpful 19:25 < aestetix> wow 19:25 < aestetix> this video 19:25 < aestetix> it just keeps getting better and better 19:31 < aestetix> this is like the adult version of dashcon 19:32 * Bahhumbug considers you have far too much free time 19:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah i just watched that, lol 19:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> i'm listening to random ramblings about it while cleaning 19:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 19:36 <@Dagmar> I like this guy 19:39 <@brimstone> are you guys gonna get irongeek to record pn18? 19:40 <@Dagmar> Breeng me cameras 19:40 <@Dagmar> I'm bringing a myth box so that hopefully we can get these dumb videos out to people _during_ the con 19:41 <@brimstone> bring a separate fileserver so we can just wget or rsync the videos too 19:41 <@brimstone> plzkthx 19:41 <@Dagmar> Yes. Torrenting 19:41 <@Bahhumbug> brimstone: You're not logged into idlerpg if you care about such things. 19:41 <@Dagmar> ...but plans can change 19:41 <@brimstone> Bahhumbug: i do, but this box is not stable currently 19:42 <@brimstone> 3 restarts today already 19:42 * Bahhumbug nods 19:42 <@Dagmar> Im' pretty sure I have all the hardware for that lying around here 19:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> i forget who it was, but whoever notacon got to record their stuff, was great, he gave a dvd burn of the talk to the speaker like 1hr later, and you could buy the dvds for like 5$ each otherwise 19:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then they would be hosted online like 2 mo later 19:42 <@brimstone> a btsync box would also be, albeit it less, acceptable. 19:43 <@brimstone> it's 2014, get them online day of 19:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> a dvd is nice also, but thats personal pref. 19:44 <@brimstone> what is this, physical media you speak of? 19:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> 2006 tech 19:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> well not really 'that' year, but ehh 19:44 <@Dagmar> I just need some composity audio/video 19:44 <@Bahhumbug> I'd offer to host whatever you guys needed at no cost but... I don't like the people involved within the organization. 19:45 <@brimstone> youtube or vimeo it 19:45 <@brimstone> done 19:45 * Bahhumbug nods 19:45 <@brimstone> and one big .torrent at the end 19:45 <@Bahhumbug> Get rid of the idiots running the show and if you ever need hosting, for whatever, it's yours. 19:46 * Bahhumbug goes to grab some dinner. 19:46 <@brimstone> Bahhumbug: are you in nashville? 19:46 <@Dagmar> Damn this guy has figured out where *all* the bodies are buried 19:46 <@Bahhumbug> Manchester. 19:46 <@brimstone> you just have to show up to two meetings to have voting powers 19:46 <@Dagmar> Holy shit he AWESOME at the ten minute mark 19:46 <@brimstone> then you can vote them out 19:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> he has a pretty bad british accent 19:47 <@Bahhumbug> brimstone: That's the plan. 19:47 <@Bahhumbug> Anyway, food. 19:47 * Bahhumbug & 19:51 <@Dagmar> He just *hands* that Matti guy grounds or a lawsuit 19:52 < aestetix> Who was the guy the video played a sound clip of 19:52 < aestetix> some guy who makes games? 19:52 <@Dagmar> It was an interview that was *horribly* misconstrued later 19:52 <@Dagmar> Like, the full story with respect to something they used to lambaste a male developer 19:53 <@Dagmar> You're going to want to watch that segment again 19:53 < aestetix> what was his name? 19:53 < aestetix> or what game did he make 19:54 <@Dagmar> NO idea, but he was basically burned in a wicker man by the SJWs 19:54 <@Dagmar> He created God of War and Twisted Metal 19:54 <@Dagmar> It starts at 11:30 19:54 < aestetix> oh ok 19:55 <@Dagmar> Like stuff they really, really took out of context 19:55 <@Dagmar> They practically cut and pasted his words together 19:56 < aestetix> So he has grounds for a lawsuit 19:56 <@Dagmar> He has to demonstrate harm 19:57 <@Dagmar> But basically, he was calling one of the editors of Kotaku out over the shit they published 19:57 <@Dagmar> ...calling him a mysogynist. 19:58 <@Dagmar> Put this dude is seriously dropping a nuke into the gamer fauxminist/sjw camp 19:58 <@Dagmar> s/Put/But/; 20:01 <@Dagmar> "Are you people insane? Do you live on Planet Fucking Nuts?" 20:01 <@Dagmar> looooool 20:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> hell soon, I wouldn't be surprised if 'real media' starts to report on it 20:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c with people shining so much light on stuff now, I wouldn't be surprised if more dragons come out 20:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M 20:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Quinnspiracy Theory: The Five Guys Saga - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 20:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> this one he did earlier, talks about the phil fish connection and other stuff, (the left 2 guys have said they aren't the 2 'other' guys) 20:26 < aestetix> sigh 20:29 * oddball looks in and guesses that he missed something bit. 20:29 <@oddball> er big 20:30 < RangerZ> oddball: you read any gaming websites? 20:31 <@oddball> not really 20:31 < RangerZ> b/c all the major gaming website are in the center of a cluster fuck of major porportions 20:31 <@oddball> oh? 20:31 < RangerZ> youtube/twitter/those sites/4chan/reddit 20:32 < RangerZ> basically a female game dev slept with reviewers, her bos, and 5 guys (and her b/f now calls her '5 guys with fries' , lol) 20:32 < RangerZ> and its showing incetiuous relationship between devs and "journalists" 20:32 <@oddball> ah 20:33 < RangerZ> s/bos/boss 20:33 <@oddball> Honestly? I see that actually being refreshingly honest compared to normal game reviews, etc. 20:33 < RangerZ> ohh but they weren't telling anyone it was going on 20:34 <@oddball> ah 20:34 < RangerZ> plus false DMCA takedown notices to youtube, a subreddit /r/gaming banning anyone who talks about it 20:34 < RangerZ> 4chan /v/ deleting threads 20:34 < RangerZ> almost none of the game sites talking about it b/c its "personal info" 20:34 <@brimstone> oh, she's the depression quest dev 20:34 <@brimstone> neat 20:35 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmy5OKg6lo probably the most concise explanation 20:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: Quinnspiracy Theory: In-N-Out Edition - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 20:36 <@oddball> yes.. the most concise is apparently damned near 30 minutes. 20:37 < RangerZ> yeah... pretty much 20:38 < RangerZ> honestly i gave you the 'concise' version, but thats a good explanation 20:40 <@Wilpig> the dude makes one very good point. when 4chan, reddit, and tumblr agree on something you should get the fuck out of the way of that freight train 20:40 < RangerZ> yeah... 20:41 <@oddball> heh... true 20:42 < RangerZ> I'm just waiting for youtube to _really_ explode 20:42 < RangerZ> b/c like 18 of the top 20 youtubers are game related 20:42 < RangerZ> or something silly like that 20:43 < RangerZ> but apparently that and ....make up... are the two biggest genres 20:44 <@Wilpig> and that's enough of that. too much don't care and not listening to this shit 20:47 <@Dagmar> dafuq 20:47 <@Dagmar> Someone's transmitting morse nearby 20:52 <@Wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ov51ep44l6x5og9/aliens-meme-image.jpeg?dl=0 20:53 <@Dagmar> Well, it's 16, so it's probably a GRMS repeater 20:53 <@Dagmar> er GMRS 20:53 <@Dagmar> ...and there's a house not very far at all from here with the Conspicuous Shortwave Tower 20:54 <@oddball> I do have to say this... that video is a *hell* of a lot more than a vauge "she's sleeping her way to the top." 20:55 <@Dagmar> Yeah 20:55 < RangerZ> yeah 20:55 <@Dagmar> There's some seriouls corruption going on 20:57 <@oddball> While I appreciate Adam Sessler's response to folks accusing him of taking money for good reviews, there's a reason why the video game press is generally looked on as a steaming pile of dog shit. 20:58 <@oddball> Of course, Sessler was also apparently not afraid to come out and tell people "yeah... this game is crap." Which is something you almost never see elsewhere. 20:58 < RangerZ> which is why he's gone 20:58 < RangerZ> he got fed up with the BS/drama 20:58 <@oddball> yep 20:58 < RangerZ> also... 20:58 < RangerZ> he was with Zoe that night 20:58 < RangerZ> at a bar in SF 20:58 <@oddball> ha! 20:58 < RangerZ> lol 20:59 < RangerZ> he's still there and friends with people, etc 20:59 <@oddball> Well, there was also a whole extra pile of crap with dealing with G4. 20:59 < RangerZ> yeah, but at the end, he was working for Discovery Channel 21:00 < RangerZ> their "Rev 3 games" division 21:00 <@oddball> wa he? 21:00 <@oddball> er was he? 21:00 < RangerZ> yeah 21:00 < RangerZ> last 1.5 yrs or so 21:00 < RangerZ> its why I started watching it 21:00 <@oddball> Huh... didn't know that. 21:01 < RangerZ> i never watched him before that actually 21:01 < RangerZ> stumbled upon him last E3 21:01 < RangerZ> and then he quit early this year 21:05 <@oddball> My friends and I made a point of watching him and Morgan Webb back in college. 21:09 < RangerZ> https://i.imgur.com/RNF8nm9.png 21:09 < RangerZ> Total Biscuit not liking her/others BS 21:12 < RangerZ> "Had a nap and dreamed I had made an anime. Woke up to SJW spreading lies about me. Thanks god I haven't made an anime." 21:12 < aestetix> RangerZ: here's a question for you 21:13 < aestetix> it's easy for me to put conference talks together 21:13 < aestetix> but writing a paper is fucking impossible 21:13 < aestetix> any way to get around that block? 21:15 < RangerZ> what do you mean? 21:15 < RangerZ> you 'cant' b/c of writing skill? 21:15 < RangerZ> or not wanting to use real name? 21:15 < aestetix> No, I can write well. 21:16 < aestetix> I'm just not motivated, I guess. 21:16 < RangerZ> actually , writing a paper is very formulaic , we just don't teach kids how to do it right 21:16 < aestetix> Or I'm under too much stress from various things 21:16 < aestetix> Oh, I know how to write a paper. 21:16 < RangerZ> i mean 'research' papers 21:16 < aestetix> I think it's more that it feels like a lot of effort for a potential low readership 21:16 < RangerZ> they have pretty fucking standard format 21:17 < aestetix> if I give a talk I know at least someone will see it 21:17 < RangerZ> yes, but your talk can't be submitted as reference for other work or cited 21:17 < aestetix> right 21:17 < RangerZ> not...easily... at least 21:17 < aestetix> well heh heh 21:17 < aestetix> also, I'm totally happy to put a real name on it. Just not a legal name ;) 21:18 < RangerZ> basically you 2 options 21:18 < RangerZ> op eds 21:18 < RangerZ> or a blog 21:18 < RangerZ> but to get your op ed published, you'd have to be 'recognized' 21:18 < aestetix> yeah blog it is 21:19 < RangerZ> but whats the 'topic' ? 21:19 < RangerZ> nym stuff? 21:19 < aestetix> maybe if drama would just stop happening I'd be able to focus 21:19 < RangerZ> also... 21:19 < aestetix> maybe I should put you on ignore so I don't have to spend an hour reading about the stupid quinn thing 21:19 < RangerZ> you know... 21:19 < RangerZ> there are "conferences" where you just present 21:19 < RangerZ> academic conf. are that way 21:20 < RangerZ> all you have to do , is write an abstract 21:21 < aestetix> so just like phreakinc 21:21 < aestetix> preaknic 21:21 < RangerZ> pretty much 21:21 < RangerZ> but you won't even be accepted without your legal name 21:22 < aestetix> ok so I'll just put Luther Blissett on all of them 21:22 < aestetix> that looks real enough 21:22 < RangerZ> if you want to be taken serious, you're going to have to give up your naive idea of keeping your legal name 'secret' 21:22 < RangerZ> its a great stance 21:22 < RangerZ> but fucking mavel has even covered this 21:22 < RangerZ> lol 21:22 < aestetix> I have read the Daredevil story, if that's what you mean. 21:23 < RangerZ> spiderman wasn't allowed to testify to congress with his mask on 21:23 < aestetix> oh wow 21:23 < aestetix> I did not know that 21:23 < RangerZ> despite sneaking into room, etc 21:23 < aestetix> where can I read that? 21:23 < RangerZ> marvel's digital library 21:23 < RangerZ> it was ~2004 to 2007 ish 21:24 < RangerZ> < that new? 21:24 < RangerZ> i happend to come upon it at Sheetz one night 21:24 < RangerZ> yeah 21:24 < RangerZ> they are also going to be addressing this in Superman V Batman 21:25 <@Dagmar> OKay. I think I'll see about picking up one of those cheap Sony Cyber-Shot cameras for testing 21:25 < aestetix> cool 21:25 < RangerZ> people want to 'charge' superman for the destroying of property/city/familes 21:25 <@Dagmar> Apparently they're about $50 now, which is acceptable for SD video 21:25 < aestetix> you know 21:25 < aestetix> I didn't realize how great comics were until I read Watchmen 21:25 < aestetix> And then saw Captain America 21:25 < aestetix> That stuff is fucking brilliant 21:25 < RangerZ> yeah 21:26 < RangerZ> manga has really good stuff too 21:26 < RangerZ> but with both... it takes finding the gems 21:26 < aestetix> The comic book store guys who dribble over themselves by memorizing mistakes in panels, not so much 21:26 < RangerZ> always a lot of crap 21:28 < RangerZ> aestetix: have you seen capt. america 2? 21:28 < aestetix> yes 21:28 < RangerZ> oh ok 21:28 < aestetix> I liked it, but not as much 21:28 < RangerZ> really? I thought it was much better 21:28 < aestetix> it didn't have nazis 21:28 < RangerZ> covered the 'war on terror' mentality 21:28 < RangerZ> and said it was BS 21:29 < RangerZ> but didn't hit you over the head with it 21:37 < RangerZ> http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2dz0gs/totalbiscuit_discusses_the_state_of_games/ HAHA 21:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: TotalBiscuit discusses the state of games journalism, Steam Greenlight, ethics, DMCA abuse and Depression Quest. : gaming (at www.reddit.com) 21:37 < RangerZ> wow... yeah... no one is censoring anything... 21:45 <@Dagmar> Gosh the incestuous coverup continues 21:48 < RangerZ> striesand effect 21:48 < RangerZ> striesand effect 101... don't use fake DMCA takedowns 21:48 < RangerZ> and just say things are false 21:48 < RangerZ> and then ignore them 21:49 <@Dagmar> InternetAristocrat fired a damn nuke tho 21:49 < RangerZ> yeah 21:49 <@Dagmar> He makes the very clear and evidence-supported argument that Kotaku are truly bent 21:49 <@Dagmar> That they have lost *all hope* of pretending to have journalistic integrity 21:50 < RangerZ> unless gawker fires everyone... 21:50 < RangerZ> but not likely 21:53 <@Dagmar> They're going to have a "no one is allowed to fuck anyone" policy deployed 21:54 < RangerZ> or a fucking REAL 'responsible disclosure' policy 21:54 < RangerZ> which would have solved all this 21:55 < RangerZ> sharrod brown(Sen from Ohio)'s wife is a reporter 21:55 < RangerZ> and when she reports on politics in ohio, she always puts a little annotation saying they are married (different last names) 21:55 < RangerZ> thats all it takes 22:04 <@Dagmar> Except in this case, I don't think they've maintained impartiality 22:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, pretty much 22:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> and ... I need to setup an actual server to hold my chat client, lol 22:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> i hope some of the young turk channels start to talk about it... to force admission of wtf is going on 22:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> "Lies, Damned Lies and the Video Game Press" HAHAHA 22:09 <@Dagmar> whoohoo! 22:21 < aestetix> penis 23:04 < aestetix> RangerZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqm877JG_0A 23:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, thats what actually brought this all to my attention 23:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> i subscribe to his videos 23:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think its just a situation where too many people don't want to see shades of gray (not just 50) 23:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> yes, video games should have more female equality, but it shouldn't _shame_ games that have male protagonists 23:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> my ex was one of the unicorn girls that would buy COD/halo/assassins creed... lol 23:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> but having worked at gamestop for 3.5 years, and suncoast for a year 23:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> i can tell you... mostly guys bought video games when I worked there... so unless things have changed dramatically ... thats still the truth 23:25 <@Dagmar> They *have* to shame those games 23:25 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, the narrative ignores their personal pet peeve 23:25 <@Dagmar> That's why they were arguing that the guy who invented Cards Against HUmanity shouldn't defend himself against the rape allegations 23:25 <@Dagmar> It's more important that he talk about _their pet peeve_ 23:25 <@Dagmar> It's obsessive behaviour 23:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah 23:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think this entire thing stems back to my not 'getting' the feminism vs atheism thing 23:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> both groups want to be 'the special ones' 23:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> and target the same demographics 23:32 <@Bahhumbug> Oh, they are bot "special". 23:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> so they demagogue the other group to 'win' clicks/views 23:32 <@Bahhumbug> As in shortbus special. 23:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I'm the type that asks people (hell even aestetix) what their POV on things is, to try and understand it (especially if I don't agree with it) so that I can at least have a better grasp of the arguments...and I'm starting to wonder if the NCLB demographic just wasn't TAUGHT how to do that 23:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c it seems to come from 24/25 year olds and down or so 23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> whereas we just troll on purpose 23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 23:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> when WE enrage someone... it was done on purpose and for a cause... (generally our amusement... but still) 23:53 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:55 < aestetix> RangerZ: I see you also hate millennials 23:57 <@Bahhumbug> You people have too narrow a focus. Don't limit your hate. Just hate everyone and be done with it. 23:59 < aestetix> RangerZ: someone pointed out to me recently the ironic parallel's between NCLB and the Left Behind series --- Log closed Tue Aug 26 00:00:30 2014