--- Log opened Fri Aug 22 00:00:26 2014
00:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> another channel has just decided that "midgets have a too low MTBF"
00:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> so yeah...
00:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> that happened
00:09 < aestetix> notlarry: as opposed to negroe phosphorous?
00:15 <@notlarry> aestetix: If facebook is any indication I don't think we have to worry about some phosphorous lying dead on the sidewalk wearing handcuffs and sporting a half a dozen or so bullet holes.  If you know what I mean...
00:22 < aestetix> So
00:22 < aestetix> Does netflix not give suggestions if you give something a shitty rating?
00:27 < aestetix> hmm
00:27  * aestetix looks at email
00:27 < aestetix> I am so tempted to troll jonnyx
00:27 <@Wilpig> it's not like he has a leg to stand on at this point
00:27 <@Wilpig> so....  HTML5 based VNC client.  bad...ass....
00:28 < aestetix> wanna know one way we could all fuck with him?
00:28 < aestetix> someone post a reply saying "wow, you were right, the new website is totally worth the wait, thanks!"
00:28 < aestetix> and have like five more replies basically agreeing
00:28 <@notlarry> Vagina?  If you know what I mean...
00:29 < aestetix> Wilpig: wanna do that?
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00:30 <@Wilpig> not worth the effot
00:30 < aestetix> wouldn't he go "uh wtf?"
00:30 <@Wilpig> seriously what more mocking can you do to him at this point that his stalling and excuses aren't doing to himself?
00:33 <@Dagmar> Next year I'll just put up a Phreaknic "fan site"
00:33 <@Dagmar> ...with leaked info.
00:34 <@Dagmar> Because this *has* taken too damn long by half
00:35 < aestetix> you know
00:35 < aestetix> we could create a phreaknic tumblr page
00:35 <@oddball> I fucking love Dru's response to my email calling him out on it.
00:36 < aestetix> the patience grasshopper one?
00:36 <@oddball> Hell, it might be a good idea for the board members to vote no confidence just to fucking make the point.
00:36 <@Dagmar> It's more of a response than I got out of him earlier this week
00:37 <@Dagmar> NO need.
00:37 <@Dagmar> Just ask him what the state of deliverables are, and divvy them up
00:38 <@oddball> So... maybe I should just keep that projector that I borrowed for Hypericon? :p
00:38 <@Wilpig> I am still pushing back to the question of "has anyone other than jonnyx seen this hotel contract"
00:38 <@Wilpig> does anyone know what kind of financial obligation we are staring down the barrel of other than him?
00:39 <@Dagmar> SO the next org meeting is when/
00:39 <@Wilpig> saturday
00:39 <@Dagmar> K/
00:39 <@Dagmar> I'm crashing it
00:39 <@Dagmar> I will calmly and nonconfontationally find out wtf is going on
00:41 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: second point of order after that would be to get a list of confirmed speakers and see where that stands.
00:42 <@Wilpig> if tshirts are gonna be printed that order has to get in within the next 30 days.  swag... yeah right, some of that wouldhave to have the order turned in asap
00:42 <@Wilpig> badge design?  someone printing them?  
00:42 <@Dagmar> Honestly the confirmation of speakers is not as high as getting a damn site up
00:43 <@Wilpig> supposedly he has a full list of speakers already and I find that highly suspect
00:43 <@Dagmar> We could just as easily put up a site with a bunch of TBA on the speker list
00:43 <@Dagmar> ...but we dont' even have that
00:43 <@Dagmar> The thing we're supposed to be _good_ at we're bogging down on
00:44 < aestetix> hmmm
00:44 < aestetix> plane tickets are reasonable. once I hear that PN is confirmed happening and date-check, I might be able to book a plane ticket
00:44 < aestetix> I assume I'll be crashing on notlarry's couch
00:45 < aestetix> I'll even shave
00:45 <@oddball> aestetix: Hey, even if PN's not happenning, come on down and I'll teach you to shoot a gun. :)
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00:54 <@Wilpig> oddball: just saw your newest response.  lol
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01:05 <@notlarry> aestetix: yeah, but I don't have much of a back seat for you to ride home on.  If you know what I mean...
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01:39 <@Wilpig> anyone up that is fluent in C ?
01:39  * Dickie immediately lies down
01:39 <@Wilpig> https://github.com/berndmweber/burnin-sw/blob/master/hpl_calc_n.c  <-- I think this is the most recent version of this
01:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: burnin-sw/hpl_calc_n.c at master · berndmweber/burnin-sw · GitHub (at github.com)
01:40 <@Wilpig> I have no clue what variable limits are.  but this segfaults on 128GB of ram
01:44 <@Dagmar> damnit
01:44 <@Dagmar> I think my hd-pvr died
01:45 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: not a problem, you still have the internets
01:45 <@Dagmar> It's a problem if I want to use it for other things
01:46 <@Dagmar> Also how the fuck do you open these things
01:46 <@Wilpig> hammer
01:47 <@Dagmar> Apparently the little power supply for the things eventually malfunctions and kills them
01:48 <@Wilpig> that's some clever engineering
02:07 <@Dagmar> Well... shit
02:07 <@Dagmar> Apparently this thing is like the *one* easy option for recording in MythTv
02:07 <@Dagmar> At least they're still available on eBay
02:09 <@Wilpig> i'm crashing.  talk to y'all later.
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02:48 <@Dagmar> Fucking power supply
02:48 <@Dagmar> Luckily my PSP has the exact smae power requirements, but with a different size plug
02:49 <@Dagmar> I CANNOT BE STOPPED BY BAD CHINESE HARDWARE
02:52 <@Dagmar> Off to wal-mart I guess
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04:26 <@Dagmar> The damn thing works when I use my PSP adapter... *sigh*
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05:14 <@Dagmar> Imminently relevant: http://mashable.com/2014/08/21/no-copyright-for-monkey-god-photos/
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05:44 <@Dagmar> node 1: vendor_id = 0x00d00d1e model_id = 0x00000001
05:44 <@Dagmar> Fucking Comcast
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06:13 <@Dagmar> I still have BBCA, so they can live another month or three
06:13 <@Dagmar> Currently waiting on MythTV to download about 300 channel icons
06:13 <@Dagmar> I *will* have a damn recording test before morning
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07:35 <@Dagmar> It recorded... some shit in spanish.
07:35 <@Dagmar> Apparently 6200ch requires the -4 option to change channels correctly now
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07:56 <@Dagmar> Is comcast throttling NTP or what?
07:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: why not
07:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> can they screw someone by doing so? if so... then probably yes
07:59 <@Dagmar> I jsut realized I'm basically _not_ getting ntp responses back except very occasionally
07:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> hmm
08:02 <@Dagmar> ...at least, like none of the 0-13.us.pool.org servers responsd
08:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> check to see if they respoond from non-comcrap
08:07 <@Dagmar> I'll do that later tonight I guess
08:08 <@Dagmar> I just added some NIST and .mil servers that I seem to be able to get responses back from
08:08 <@Dagmar> My clock was several minutes off
08:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lryczRWBVw
08:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Student Arrested For FAKE Facebook Post About Killing Dinosaurs - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
08:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> a writing assignment about making a FB post
08:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> he said he killed his neighbor's pet dino
08:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> charged for disorderly conduct for disagreeing with the cops...
08:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> __pet dino__
08:26 <@opticron> yep...full of derp
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08:30 <@Dagmar> He should have _never_ been asked to talk to the police in the first place.
08:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> yep
08:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> zero tolerance = zero common sense
08:32 <@Dagmar> zero intelligence policy
08:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> LA city schools are getting rid of their zero tolerance policy, as a pilot program
08:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> and give ....counseling... to students who have problems
08:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> wow... there is some crazy ideas...
08:33 < aestetix> wait
08:34 < aestetix> how did he commit disorderly conduct
08:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> he argued with the cops
08:34 < aestetix> How does any reasonable person see a threat to kill someone's dinosaur like that?
08:34 <@Dagmar> He was probably "unruly"
08:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats the #1 crime you can commit in the USA
08:34 < aestetix> Why was there an argument? Why were the cops involved?
08:34 <@Dagmar> aestetix: it was a _fake_ Facebook post for a creative writing assignment
08:34 < aestetix> About killing a dinosaur.
08:35 < aestetix> I mean, maybe I'm on mars, but last I checked dinoaurs are either extinct or fictional.
08:35 <@Dagmar> Precisely.
08:35 <@Dagmar> This was not posted to Facebook
08:35 <@Dagmar> This teacher was looney
08:35 < aestetix> Was he supposed to post something else saying "oh hey gais btw dinosaurs are not real"
08:36 <@Dagmar> He wasn't told to write anything about a dinosaur
08:36 <@Dagmar> Did you not read the actual text of it?
08:36 <@Dagmar> It was like _two lines_
08:36 < aestetix> Not yet. I just saw the absurd comments you guys are making
08:36 < aestetix> lemme watch the video
08:37 <@Dagmar> http://www.nbc12.com/story/26319685/cops-summerville-high-school-student-arrested-after-writing-threatening-message-on-assignment
08:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: Police, lawyer release statements on student's alleged dinosaur - NBC12.com - Richmond, VA News (at www.nbc12.com)
08:38 <@Dagmar> I do not blame the kid _one bit_ for being unruly
08:38 < aestetix> I hope he said something like "wait, are you fucking serious?"
08:38 <@Dagmar> Not one damn bit
08:39 <@Dagmar> He got a lot of mileage out of two sentences
08:39 <@Dagmar> so... points for the assignment
08:39 <@Dagmar> and BEATINGS for the dimwittery that led to this ever being brought to the police and searching lockers and shit
08:40 <@Dagmar> At this point I don't think I could spend more than ten minutes in a school without saying the word "gun" in a casual conversation
08:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> the rest of the fucking year, all my assignments would be shooting fucking dinos
08:40 <@Dagmar> So that I could yell "SHOULD I HAVE GIVEN A 'TRIGGER WARNING', BITCHES?"
08:41 < aestetix> You know, we do have the second amendment.
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08:42 < aestetix> I mean
08:42 < aestetix> Even if they did have reasonable suspicion because of that
08:42 < aestetix> Wouldn't the next natural step to be to ask local gun shops in the area if that kid bought a gun?
08:44 <@Dagmar> No.
08:44 <@Dagmar> Stop right there.
08:44 <@Dagmar> That was not *reasonable* suspicion
08:44 < aestetix> I know.
08:44 <@Dagmar> That was a fucking _keyword match_
08:44 < aestetix> I'm just saying.
08:44 <@Dagmar> That's a zero intelligence policy
08:44 <@Dagmar> We bitch at people who write regexp triggers like that
08:45 <@Dagmar> It's no less intelligent than matching against "laughter" and being upset at the fact that "slaughter" gets in there
08:45 <@Dagmar> No brain cells were involved in the execution of that policy
08:45 <@Dagmar> So fuck them
08:46 <@Dagmar> So...
08:46 < aestetix> But taxpayer dollars were.
08:46 <@Dagmar> It looks like I might be off to a good start, endurance testing the mythtv box
08:46 <@Dagmar> BBCAHD is like... the Doctor Who channel for most of the weekend
08:47 <@Dagmar> Me likey
08:48 <@Dagmar> I was worried I'd fucked up the channel changer again but no...
08:48 <@Dagmar> Three recordings.
08:48 <@Dagmar> BBCAHD, 2m, 143Mb
08:48 <@Dagmar> SYFYHY, 2m, 53Mb
08:48 <@Dagmar> BBCAHD again, 2m, 150Mb
08:48 < aestetix> hmm
08:49 < aestetix> 2.3 MB/s
08:49 <@Dagmar> SUUUUURE comcast is giving us 1080 on these channels
08:49 < aestetix> Downloading at that rate kills my internet connection
08:49 < aestetix> That seems low
08:49 <@Dagmar> No, it's a h.264 compressed recording
08:49 <@Dagmar> It's just that one of them is rather _clearly_ only 720 resolution
08:50 <@Dagmar> ...if that
08:50 <@Dagmar> Comcast has a very "flexible" idea of what an "HD" channel means.
08:50 <@brimstone> i thought they were providing enough bits now?
08:50 <@brimstone> HD channels were gimped for a while
08:51 <@Dagmar> That entirely depends on how they feel like rebroadcasting
08:51 <@Dagmar> Of course, SYFY was showing a damn infomercial, so it was probably SD to begin with
08:51 <@brimstone> we're not allowed to have comcast TV with business class internet in a "home office"
08:51 <@Dagmar> ...but I don't fucking care as long as this thing records ALL THE DOCTORS
08:52 <@Dagmar> 'cuz literally BBC America (and probably BBC as well) is The Fucking Doctor Who Channel until tomorrow night's premiere
08:52 <@brimstone> i watched an episode at the dentist wednesday
08:52 <@brimstone> the one with the cybermites
08:53 <@brimstone> and stormageddon
08:54 <@Dagmar> I have 500Gb of storage and I damn well intend to use it
08:54 <@Dagmar> HD 1080 encoded turns into about 5Gb/h
08:54 <@Dagmar> I think I can get all of it
08:54 <@Dagmar> :)
08:54 <@Dagmar> This is why I was busting ass all night to get the fucking box working again
08:55 <@Dagmar> I still don't know WTF is up with ntp
08:55 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Are you using the ntp pool servers?
08:55 <@Dagmar> If so... does ntpq -p say anything ominous at you?
08:55 <@Dagmar> ...like, everything still in INIT state
08:56  * brimstone looks
08:56 <@brimstone>      remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
08:57 <@brimstone> ==============================================================================
08:57 <@brimstone> *lithium.constan 206.246.122.250  2 u  396 1024  377   41.541   27.568  16.629
08:57 <@brimstone> +helium.constant 216.218.254.202  2 u  315 1024  377   41.431   35.445  22.324
08:57 <@brimstone> +cheezum.mattnor 96.226.242.9     2 u  245 1024  377   31.281   43.622  23.810
08:57 <@brimstone> +50.7.68.4       71.40.128.146    2 u 1006 1024  377   36.708   19.611  12.991
08:57 <@brimstone> server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
08:57 <@brimstone> server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
08:57 <@brimstone> server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
08:57 <@brimstone> server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
09:00 <@Dagmar> Hmm
09:03 <@Dagmar> I wonder if I need to update ntpd because of some dimwittery filtering over that monlist thing
09:03 <@Dagmar> I do not consider it a necessary thing to update here because I serve time to *no one* I don't trust
09:04 <@Dagmar> If you monlist my server I can hit you with a stick.
09:04 <@Dagmar> ...because you'd have to be in my damn house.
09:08 <@Dagmar> I know iptables isn't intercepting the responses because my logs would be drowning in that shit
09:10 <@Wilpig> http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson
09:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Support Officer Darren Wilson by Stand Up - GoFundMe (at www.gofundme.com)
09:11 <@Wilpig> laughing cause of this.. http://i.4cdn.org/b/1408707407378.gif
09:12 <@Dagmar> Oh they're so looking to burn his funding down
09:12 <@Dagmar> heheh
09:13 <@brimstone> er hat nichts falsch gemacht
09:13 <@brimstone> hehe, finally german classes paid off
09:15 <@Wilpig> haha http://www.gofundme.com/justiceformikebrown  for the flip side
09:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: Michael Brown Memorial Fund by Adner Marcelin - GoFundMe (at www.gofundme.com)
09:23 < aestetix> vagina
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09:25 < RangerZ> wtf... youtube disabled 'copy video at this time'
09:26 < RangerZ> http://youtu.be/Qs_wjZPD08Y?t=1m55s figured it out... but still stupid UI changes :/
09:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Witcher 3 Not 1080p On Consoles? & Oculus Rift Bug Bounty Program - GS Daily News - YouTube (at youtu.be)
09:27 < RangerZ> Dagmar: ^
09:27 < RangerZ> just watch the end
09:27 < RangerZ> Elite Dangerous on Occulus Rift
09:27 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NQFCx0qAzo full video
09:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Oculus Rift DK2 and the Future of VR - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
09:28 <@Dagmar> Yeah I know
09:28 <@Dagmar> This is why people are using VoiceAttack
09:28 <@Dagmar> Unless you have magic braille-reading fingers, you can't very well find the keyboard keys safely
09:29 <@Dagmar> I smack TAB at random times enough as it is
09:29 <@Dagmar> I set a fucking *speed record* for docking this morning
09:29 <@brimstone> heh, "docking"
09:29 <@Dagmar> I just barely managed to not smash my shit right into the side of the starport
09:29 <@Dagmar> Pressing TAB is like a nitrous-boost
09:30 <@Dagmar> ...except it works from a full-stop
09:30 <@Dagmar> I was just too excited about finding GOLD
09:31 < RangerZ> ohh shit
09:31 <@Dagmar> It does not exactly *help* things that your viewport includes *you* in a flight suit
09:32 < RangerZ> I thought the deadline about Comcast/ TW merger comments had passed
09:32 <@Dagmar> So, if you look down, you'll see your hands
09:32 < RangerZ> apparently it is this upcoming monday
09:32 <@Dagmar> I'm so sure they're going to read all ten billion comments
09:33 < RangerZ> thats the thing, they have someone do that, and put them into buckets of 'for' and 'against'
09:33 <@Dagmar> Especially considering more than a few of them are probably rambling diatribes against fascism and plaid
09:33 < RangerZ> so it doesn't matter if it is 1 sentence or 100k
09:33 < RangerZ> lol
09:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:34 <@Dagmar> Its _amazing_ how all this shit I had fixed in MythWeb doesn't work in this build of MythBuntu
09:36 <@Dagmar> wilpig: http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/news/Pig-Racing-At-Wilson-County-Fair-272281561.html
09:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pig Racing At Wilson County Fair - NewsChannel5.com (at www.jrn.com)
09:37 <@Dagmar> At the very end... notice the reaction of the black anchor
09:37 <@Dagmar> hehehe
09:38 <@Dagmar> He was having trouble keeping it together because... *pig* racing
09:39 < RangerZ> TN...
09:39 <@Dagmar> It so definitely is
09:42 < RangerZ> so thats funny...
09:43 < RangerZ> Sony is a little worried...They don't know WHY the PS4 is selling as well as it is
09:43 < RangerZ> ohh look... treat customers like... customers... and not chattle...
09:43 < RangerZ> and you get all the moneys
09:43 < RangerZ> *shocked*
09:44 < RangerZ> chattel*
09:47 <@opticron> I'd definitely buy a PS4 over a xbone
09:49 < RangerZ> yeah, I'll probably look into buying one... when you know... any games I'm interested in come out
09:50 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmaR__mWkZI
09:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Idiot Calls Cops After Not Getting Any Sex From Stripper - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
09:50 < RangerZ> HAHAHAHA
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09:53 < RangerZ> greetings benthemeek
09:54 < RangerZ> have you decided to grace us with your pressence ? since someone didn't delete every server at your company this morning? lol
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10:01 < RangerZ> Dagmar: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LAEBJNM/
10:02 < RangerZ> 1.2 Ah 2A USB battery charger
10:02 < RangerZ> 30$
10:03 < RangerZ> the 2A charge might allow the damn phones to actually not drain with ingress
10:03 < RangerZ> 'might'
10:04 <@benthemeek> RangerZ: Any day is a good day when the servers havent been deleted
10:05 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: I already have a two port 2.1a adapter in the car
10:06 <@Dagmar> ...and yes, it can keep tablets running
10:06 <@benthemeek> btw I know all of you (and myself) are very anxious for the website to be live. Its still http://beta.phreaknic.net I guess Drew is waiting for me to update it?
10:07 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: don't make excuses for him.
10:07 <@benthemeek> In any case I worked until after 9 last night and was out of town the two days before that so just so everyone knows if the website updates are on my shoulders we are all doomed
10:08 < RangerZ> http://beta.phreaknic.info/
10:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: PhreakNIC 18 | PhreakNIC (at beta.phreaknic.info)
10:08 < RangerZ> not .net
10:08 <@benthemeek> heh I always do that
10:08 <@Wilpig> Last I heard he was blaming lack of website on someone from some list or group i've never heard of about registration problems
10:08 < RangerZ> benthemeek: quick question... shouldn't you KNOW if the website is on your shoulders?
10:08 <@benthemeek> In anycase I know he has a bunch of updates to add to it (he has some really good speakers lined up he has been emailing about
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10:09 < RangerZ> lol
10:09 <@benthemeek> but I dont have time to be website content adder right now
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10:09 <@Dolemite> Why would a wordpress site need you to be the adder?  That's the whole point of using a CMS.
10:09 < RangerZ> then perhaps you should just ask someone else to do it
10:10 <@benthemeek> I didnt think it was on my shoulders
10:10 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: Ben _is_ the someone else Dru asked to do it
10:10 <@benthemeek> I just went away with work for 3 days and came back and nothing has changed
10:11 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: you're a grad student.  You've got lots of time to write content, right?  ;-)
10:11 < RangerZ> yep, problem is the content is for MOOCs
10:12 <@benthemeek> Im not saying anything on Dru or the leadership right now, but as far as my own life (3 children, thier swimteam, gymnastics, girlscouts etc) not to mention my work schedule by spare time is rapidly depleted
10:12 < RangerZ> but you are just the notetaker, its not your job to be doing this
10:12 <@benthemeek> I can come to the meetings and take notes
10:13 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: the problem is that it's nobody's job
10:13 <@benthemeek> Well I think our problem as a group right now is that we just do not have enough help
10:13 <@Corydon76-home> So, naturally, nobody has stepped forward to do it.
10:13 <@Dolemite> But that's always been the case
10:13 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: that can't be an excuse when help was flat out refused
10:13 <@benthemeek> That isnt on Dru its just that noone wants to do it
10:13 <@Corydon76-home> And nobody will be rewarded very well for a job well done.
10:13 <@Dolemite> It takes coercion ad blackmail on the part of the President to find someone
10:14 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, wait, Nobody was supposed to be capitalized
10:14 <@Dolemite> If you saw the pictures of wilpig that I still haven't shared...
10:14 < aestetix> RangerZ: well damn
10:14 <@benthemeek> Well I get that Dru is unorganized, but he really has been working his tail off making connections and getting speakers going. And he has a lot of great stuff lined up... just noone knows except those of us who get his email (tilghman)
10:15 < RangerZ> pig racing was the calmest of them (joke from before you joined ben)
10:15 < aestetix> benthemeek: website looks cool
10:15 < RangerZ> aestetix: ?
10:15 < aestetix> RangerZ: the beta website thing
10:15 < RangerZ> ahh
10:15 < RangerZ> yeah, it looks fine, but its been like that for 2~3 mo
10:16 < RangerZ> not updated
10:16 < aestetix> benthemeek: that should be on phreaknic.info
10:16 < RangerZ> aestetix: CFP can't go live until registration is ready
10:16 < RangerZ> didn't you know this
10:16 < RangerZ> thats why it isn't live
10:16 < RangerZ> ...
10:16 <@benthemeek> Yeah I think he tried to be a perfectionist about it being live and we just need SOMETHING
10:17 < aestetix> uh
10:17 <@benthemeek> in any case
10:17 < aestetix> that doesn't make sense
10:17 < aestetix> If you have the CFP up, you can post accepted talks and give people a reason to register
10:17 <@benthemeek> Come saturday when we are all in the same room
10:17 <@benthemeek> I dont intend to leave the meeitng until its moved to the live folder
10:17 <@benthemeek> even if it is as currently setup
10:18 <@benthemeek> but I know he has a lot more content to add to it, it just needs to be done
10:18 < aestetix> benthemeek: yeah, I like that page a lot more
10:19 <@benthemeek> For the stuff we cant add we put a coming soon
10:19 < RangerZ> blasphemy
10:19 < RangerZ> tsk tsk tsk
10:19 < RangerZ> lol
10:19 <@benthemeek> Some of the speakers he is bringing in are top notch.
10:20 <@Corydon76-home> benthemeek: of course, anything that has "coming soon" will have people complaining that they waited such a long time for the site, it should be complete!
10:20 <@Dolemite> We'd lov to read about them
10:20 <@benthemeek> I just worry that the only other attendees with be speakers at this point if we dont get the word out
10:20 < RangerZ> nah... the speakers will leave after their talks
10:20 < RangerZ> lol
10:20 <@oddball> yep
10:20 <@Dolemite> ^ this
10:21 <@Dolemite> It's bad enough that SkydogCon will be the weekend before
10:21 <@benthemeek> Im really surprised he is still having it
10:21 <@Dolemite> Well he may live in Charleston, now, but he's dating a gal from TN.  Apparently he and MrsSkyDog have split.
10:21 < aestetix> how the hell did he get Jon Callas to keynote
10:21 <@benthemeek> With the ex alienated from what I hear and him moved to SC and getting head lines at big cons, it surprises me
10:22 < aestetix> http://www.skydogcon.com/SDC3/speakers/
10:22 < aestetix> maybe you could contact a group of fauxminists to attack him about his token female lineup
10:22 <@benthemeek> twas last year
10:22 < aestetix> oh
10:22 <@benthemeek> He hasnt updated his site ether
10:23 <@Dolemite> aestetix: He is really good at shmoozing while at DEFCON.
10:23 <@benthemeek> the only news I heard was that he tweeted yes he is having it this year
10:24 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: did you forget to update the DNS for skydickcon.com ?
10:24 <@Dolemite> His Facebook community page is more up to date
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10:25 <@Wilpig> haven't touched the dns on it ina  while.  I didn't bother rewriting the proxy for it
10:25 <@benthemeek> My team won the hacker challenge last year and we never got our free classes
10:25 < aestetix> benthemeek: what was the hacker challenge
10:25 <@benthemeek> red team vs blue team
10:25 <@benthemeek> one defend one attack in a mock up of a university library setting
10:25 <@benthemeek> then change places
10:26 <@benthemeek> Not to complain one of our members did get a pwn-pad
10:26 <@benthemeek> but we were supposed to have some free hacking certs thrown in but he never got back with us to give us the info after the con
10:26 <@benthemeek> we tried to reach out to him a few months later
10:27 <@benthemeek> with all thats happened I just figured skydogcon was done
10:28 <@benthemeek> I dont have time to take a 30+ hour class anyway right now
10:29 <@Corydon76-home> benthemeek: I hadn't heard the good news that he'd moved away
10:30 <@benthemeek> He and Robin split, there is a lawsuit going on between them and he moved away
10:30 <@benthemeek> is the rumors
10:30 < RangerZ> he moved to SC and is starting a con the same day as one in that state now
10:30 <@benthemeek> maybe its not as serious as rumours and they will both still be doing their con this year
10:30 <@Dolemite> He's starting up another con in SC? lol
10:30 < RangerZ> Ohh i dunno
10:30 < RangerZ> but funny
10:31 <@Dolemite> Sadly, it's believable
10:31 <@Corydon76-home> If there's a lawsuit going on, there should be public filings on it
10:31 < RangerZ> yep
10:31 < RangerZ> no one has cared
10:31 <@benthemeek> I hadnt heard about a SC con
10:31 <@benthemeek> is he moving it there?
10:31 <@benthemeek> That would make more sense
10:31 < RangerZ> no
10:31 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-home: Yeah, he moved near the beginning of this year and works in a fabrication shop designing and making prototypes for some company down there.
10:32 <@Wilpig> http://registry.thebump.com/robin-pressly-trevor-hearn-june-2014/7336217
10:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: Robin Pressly & Trevor Hearn - Baby Registry (at registry.thebump.com)
10:32 <@benthemeek> So maybe the lawsuit thing is garbage
10:32 <@benthemeek> weirdness
10:33 <@Dolemite> Well he's definitely moved to Charleston and he's definitely seeing someone else.  The baby registry may be a joke.
10:33 <@Dolemite> Especially since he got the snip surgery.
10:33 <@Corydon76-home> The word from him was that he'd had a vasectomy
10:33 <@Wilpig> yup.  
10:33 <@benthemeek> regardless skydogcon is way behind on their stuff if they are even having it
10:33 <@Corydon76-home> Those things do fail, however.
10:34 <@Dolemite> benthemeek: That's always the case, though.
10:34 < RangerZ> benthemeek: not more behind than PN
10:34 < RangerZ> lol
10:34 <@Wilpig> ^
10:34 <@benthemeek> Well possible
10:34 <@benthemeek> possibly*
10:34 < RangerZ> but yeah, I don't think its happening at all
10:34 <@benthemeek> while it isnt public knowledge dru has a bunch of speakers lined up
10:34 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: Actually, one week behind PhreakNIC, in terms of public viewage
10:34 <@benthemeek> perhaps treevor has done the same
10:34 < RangerZ> without moneybags
10:34 < RangerZ> probably not
10:35 <@benthemeek> Well the rumors are she lost a lot of money on the con and never got it back
10:35 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: unless you have seen corespondence with people confirming 100% they will be there to speak I wouldn't trust his word saying he has speakers lined up
10:35 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-home: Yes, but Skydog has the advantage of attending a lot of other hacker cons and drumming up interest there.
10:35 <@Corydon76-home> Well, outerz0ne is his carpetbagger con... Maybe SDC will be the same way
10:35 <@benthemeek> Well I trust him perhaps a bit more than you ;)
10:36 < RangerZ> I trust that HE believes something, but he might not be mentally all there... he does hang out with crazypants
10:36 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: I have past years of him saying I have x, x, and x wanting to speak and they will be there.  then the week before the excuses poured in
10:36 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I don't see how SkydogCon could have made any money.  It was all speculative investment.
10:36 < RangerZ> my statement is legally admissible as proof of invalidism
10:36 <@benthemeek> crazy pants has done more for this con than probaly anyone in this room
10:36 < RangerZ> lol
10:36 < RangerZ> b/c she won't let us...
10:36 <@benthemeek> without even having a position
10:36 < RangerZ> and dru doesn't talk to any of us
10:37 <@benthemeek> I know its fun to hate on her but she has really put a lot of effort in
10:37 <@Corydon76-home> Show up to the meeting tomorrow, then
10:37 < aestetix> benthemeek: I will say that if PhreakNIC adopts a bad code of conduct I won't be able to come
10:37 <@benthemeek> ITs adopting hopes code dude
10:37 < aestetix> it is?
10:37 < RangerZ> obviously a bad one
10:37 < RangerZ> then
10:37 <@benthemeek> *sigh*
10:37 <@Wilpig> yup
10:37 < RangerZ> lol
10:37 < aestetix> benthemeek: nice! I fought very hard to make HOPE's code of conduct reasonable
10:38 < aestetix> A few people were trying to get puritan language put in... and we were like "what actual problem does this solve?"
10:38 < scoob> they got paid off by the ada initiative
10:38 < scoob> obviously
10:38 <@benthemeek> Well that looks to be where dru is primarily drawing his sources from
10:38 < aestetix> cool
10:38 < aestetix> Yeah the ada initiative policy is so fucked
10:38 <@benthemeek> Not on the website yet but it looks good and reasonable in my opinion
10:39 <@Wilpig> you have all the source you need right here.  "don't be a dick. we reserve the right to remove anyone at anytime."
10:39 <@benthemeek> He wants to add in a follow the local laws thing
10:39 <@benthemeek> but Im sure it will be discussed this saturday
10:39 < scoob> those are already written
10:39 < aestetix> benthemeek: although it's kind of funny that I wound up getting into an argument at HOPE with one of the attendees about the code
10:39 <@Wilpig> not your place to enforce the local law.  are you the police?
10:39 < scoob> "Be sure to obey the laws of physics while in the event"
10:40 < aestetix> She was kind of a bitch and was like "but the policy says this and that, you have to do that"
10:40 <@benthemeek> Scoob: +1
10:40 < aestetix> I was like "I helped write the policy, I can tell you exactly what it meant"
10:40 <@Wilpig> aestetix: thats the problem with shit like that.  you can't take what it meant.  you ahve to go with how someone else will interpret it.  specifically a judge
10:41 < aestetix> Ironically the time when we had the most complaints was during some feminist meetup group thing
10:41 < scoob> is that ironic?
10:41 <@Dickie> ur ironic
10:41 < aestetix> benthemeek: if I can recommend anything in addition it's "how to report a violation"
10:41 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: usually the statement "As a con organizer, we are required to obey the law and not impede the police.  We will not impede them on your behalf."
10:41 < aestetix> because we got a few messages from people that had no substance whatsoever
10:42 < aestetix> If you include date, time, location, who was involved, who saw it, what happened, why it was a violation, etc
10:42 <@benthemeek> hmm
10:42 < aestetix> The stuff that I would consider to be common sense
10:42 <@benthemeek> aestetix: I will mention that
10:42 <@benthemeek> I think now its something like: Report it to an organizer or staff and thats all
10:42 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: and that has to be stated why?  that seems implied
10:42 < aestetix> The other thing is telling them who to report it to
10:43 < aestetix> We had a few people report things to volunteers. As in, a regular attendee who just showed up and helped guard a door or something
10:43 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: because some people don't understand that part.  They think that since it's a hacker con, the organizers will protect their shenanigans
10:43 < aestetix> And the people reporting got mad when the volunteer didn't even know what the CoC was
10:43 <@Wilpig> then those people make great examples when the cops show up
10:43 < aestetix> Again with the common sense. You see an issue, report it to an organizer or to security.
10:43 <@Corydon76-home> That's why one of our perennial policies have been "plausible deniability"
10:44 < aestetix> You see that big angry looking guy with the staff shirt and the crew cut? Tell him.
10:44 < aestetix> Not the zit-faced college freshman who's at a conference for the first time and wanted to be useful
10:44 <@Corydon76-home> "If you don't tell us you're breaking the law, then we can plausibly deny knowledge to the cops."
10:45 < aestetix> There was also an exchange where I said "who did you talk to about this?" she mentioned one of the staff, and was like "I can get you her email if you want"
10:45 < aestetix> I'm like you know we've been organizing this conference for months, you'd think I might have her phone number ;)
10:45 < aestetix> benthemeek: moral of the story is, around this stuff, logic goes out the window and people stop thinking
10:46 <@Wilpig> if they do tell you then you are now on the hook to report it to the law, if not you're now an accessory.
10:46 < aestetix> I also had to fight against some people trying to interject their biases into the policy... one line I insisted get cut had to do with sexual images and language not being in talks
10:46 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: I don't think Tennessee has a "must report" law on the books
10:46 < aestetix> I'm like "so you're going to monitor and censor the speakers now?"
10:47 <@benthemeek> I think what makes Amber and Dru and others uneasy is that there really wasnt a code of conduct at all
10:47 <@benthemeek> I think if we borrow from other successful cons they will feel better
10:47 < aestetix> benthemeek: the idea of a CoC is a new one that's come about in the last couple years
10:47 < aestetix> At least with these conferences. I dunno if dragoncon is different
10:48 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: it appears the only Mandated Reporting law on the books related to child abuse
10:48 < aestetix> benthemeek: another thing people asked for was a way to report anonymously.... which is way harder than it sounds, and very open to abuse
10:48 <@Wilpig> you're glazing over the last part of that statement
10:48 < aestetix> lemme find andreas's post
10:48 <@Wilpig> a crime was commited, you now have knowledge of it.  you dind't report it and assuming they got arrested you're now an accessory to the fact
10:49 < aestetix> Wilpig: this is why when there's an accident in the road I immediately look the other way
10:49 < aestetix> "sorry nope I was not a witness"
10:50 <@Wilpig> if there is something illegal going on at the con you as an organizer want to know absolutely NOTHING about it
10:50 < aestetix> benthemeek: http://adainitiative.org/2013/01/ending-sexism-in-hacker-culture-a-work-in-progress/comment-page-1/#comment-10376
10:51 <@benthemeek> aestetix: Let me just say I don't think many appreciate how much time and effort you have put into thinking about this.
10:51 < aestetix> benthemeek: thanks!
10:51 < aestetix> benthemeek: well when the 29c3 drama happened, I was staying with one of the organizers in Hamburg so I got to hear their side
10:51 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: I agree that as an organizer, I want to know nothing about anything illegal.  However, unless I take an active step towards suppressing that knowledge, I have no liability
10:52 <@benthemeek> to me my initial reaction for a COC is make a Eula and have it say standard stuff and be done but its nice that people actually care enough to read them I guess
10:52 < aestetix> benthemeek: well the thing is, even if *you* don't care enough to read them, someone else will, and they will twist the words to fit their agenda
10:52 <@benthemeek> I dont want to think of the unhappy thoughts of getting law enforcment etc. involved. Agreed
10:52 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: the only exception to that is child abuse, where I have a clear requirement to report it
10:53 <@Wilpig> you asking them to report it to you is putting action forward to ensure you know about it.  this is the opposite of what you want
10:53 <@benthemeek> Again, I really mean that as a compliment. To most of us we think this is common sense, but thats not how everyone sees it
10:53 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: where did I say I wanted them to report it to me?
10:53 <@Wilpig> who else but con staff / organizers would you want that reported to?
10:53 < aestetix> benthemeek: one way to handle it is to have someone designated as the CoC handler. But then you run into people saying "why are they qualified?"
10:53 <@Wilpig> these are violations of your policy that are being reporting
10:54 < aestetix> which is why pushing it off to security helps
10:54 <@Corydon76-home> Violations of policy, not violations of law
10:54 <@Wilpig> "excuse me mr drive through employee at mcdonalds. i'd like to report a violatino of the phreaknic CoC"
10:54 < aestetix> Wilpig: if you have them report it to security, that allows security to make the call on whether to report it to law enforcement or not
10:54 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: well some things might intersect
10:54 <@Dolemite> We don't have security at PhreakNIC.  The term "Security" in the State of TN has certain licensing and certifications required around it.
10:55 < aestetix> Saying "vagina" is not a fucking violation. Slipping your hand down someone's pants after they told you to fuck off clearly is, and probably something for LEO to deal with.
10:55 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, and if someone is sexually assaulted, I will be the first on the phone to the cops to help them report it
10:56 < aestetix> Dolemite: well having someone designated as the point of contact for reporting, and the person who is able to make the call on going to LEO
10:56 <@shapr> wheee!
10:56 < aestetix> Because whoever is running the conference does not have the bandwidth to deal with that shit
10:56  * shapr hugs klixa
10:57 < aestetix> But yeah, it does boil down to "why the fuck is this hard? it's common sense. don't be a dick"
10:59 < aestetix> And also, I do not buy the "it made me feel uncomfortable" argument. If there was an issue, I want concrete actionable facts.
10:59 < aestetix> This changes if we get ten independent "feeling uncomfortable" reports about the same individual
11:02 < aestetix> Go to any cop and say "that guy was a creep" and if the cop says "ok what did he do" you had better have facts
11:03 < aestetix> benthemeek: but yeah, if I never hear the phrase "code of conduct" from a fauxminist again, I will die happy
11:03 < aestetix> which means I will likely not die happy
11:05 <@benthemeek> LOL
11:05 <@benthemeek> perhaps you should set your happiness goals on something more attainable
11:05 < aestetix> Ok. I will die happy if I can have a red bull.
11:10  * _specialk_ die's happy
11:13 < aestetix> benthemeek: if you're seriously basing your stuff off HOPE's CoC though, that's great. Do you mind if I mention that to the HOPE staff?
11:14 <@benthemeek> Its probaly cool
11:14 <@benthemeek> I just know that Dru sent an email talking about this is how Hope does it
11:14 <@benthemeek> We havent actually posted anything yet
11:14 <@benthemeek> hopefully this saturday
11:16 < aestetix> oh ok
11:16 < aestetix> no rush
11:17 < aestetix> and if they want I'm happy to answer questions about the HOPE stuff
11:18 < aestetix> BTW, you should have a talk at PhreakNIC "Ask Corydon Anything"
11:18 < aestetix> sort of like the reddit AMAs
11:20 <@Corydon76-home> I have a better idea.  "Shoot Any Projectile at Aestetix" hour
11:20 <@Corydon76-home> Spitballs, darts, bullets, cannonballs.  All is fair game.
11:24 < aestetix> Are the Ferguson PD coming?
11:56 < aestetix> Oh wow.
11:56 < aestetix> Amazon's answer to the Apple store: http://aws.amazon.com/start-ups/loft/
11:56 < aestetix> Well, sort of.
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13:00 <@Mirage> Last time I checked...PN != HOPE
13:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> nope, hope has 2 more letters
13:01 <@Dolemite> And just a few more attendees
13:01 <@shapr> SHAZAM!
13:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> and EVERY hope attendee this year has their own personal NSA agent for the next 2 years
13:03 <@Mirage> Dolemite: I'll officially be a full texas resident in a little over an hr.  Closing on a house at 1PM.
13:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> Mirage: my sympathies, lol
13:03 <@Mirage> Not looking forward to the part that hurts..writing that big check and handing it over.
13:03 <@Dolemite> Yeah, what RangerZ said!
13:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> austin?
13:04 <@Mirage> Plano
13:04 <@Dolemite> Plain old what?
13:04 <@Mirage> It has to be worth living in...Dolemite's beenthere
13:04 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I'm pretty sure where I went they burned it to the ground and put up a memorial.
13:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> wow... lots of asians there
13:05 <@Mirage> RangerZ|Laptop: the demographic is all over the place.
13:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> only 7% black, 16.9% asian
13:05 <@Wilpig> all team done.  shower time.  then sin city 2
13:05 <@Mirage> Wilpig: did you watch the video yesterday?
13:05 <@Wilpig> oh.  doh!  no
13:05 <@Wilpig> I was busy as fuck and forgot
13:05 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: What brand of movie theater do you go to up there?
13:06 <@Wilpig> Dolemite: still regal
13:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> Plano was ranked the most affluent city with a population over 250,000 in the United States
13:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> nice
13:06 <@Wilpig> there are some amc's around as well
13:06 <@Dolemite> Wilpig: You need to buy some Cub Scout candy bars.  $1 each but the wrapper has a coupon on it good for $2 off per ticket at Regal, no exclusions. ;)
13:07 <@Wilpig> looking now, Mirage 
13:07 <@Dolemite> I have slightly over 7,000 in my front foyer right now.
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13:12 <@Wilpig> Mirage: I just went past unicorn.  LOL
13:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> Wilpig: she that pretty?
13:13 <@Mirage> I found the guy scale for girls to be quite humorous too.
13:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> or that geeky too
13:13 <@shapr> UNICORN
13:15 <@Wilpig> so many urls posted yesterday.  http://se2600.org/ircstats/day.html
13:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: #se2600 @ Freenode stats by Evilpig (at se2600.org)
13:16 <@Wilpig> the guy scale was spot on.  haha
13:16 <@shapr> Wait, where do I send my ircstats pic?
13:16 <@Wilpig> me
13:17 <@shapr> Wilpig: do I email you with my pic and url for the ircstats page?
13:17 <@shapr> oh good! what email do I use?
13:17 <@Wilpig> *@wilpig.com
13:17 <@Wilpig> or you can post a link on here somewhere
13:17 <@Wilpig> some folks I just cyber stalked and nabbed their pictures without them realizing
13:18 <@shapr> ok, sent
13:18 <@Wilpig> i'll get it uploaded afterwhile.  got thirty minutes to shower and get to the theater
13:19 <@Wilpig> shapr's got hair that you want to tussle
13:19 < aestetix> shapr: penis@wilpig.org
13:20 <@shapr> VAINA
13:20 < aestetix> alternatively VAINA@wilpig.org
13:21 <@shapr> Wilpig: this is me from years ago: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aU0Jy_uPbtYrABobmYXMhdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
13:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Picasa Web Albums - Shae Erisson (at picasaweb.google.com)
13:21 < aestetix> Wilpig: you're in the theatre? what are you playing
13:21 <@Dolemite> shapr: OMFG, dude.  That's horrible.
13:21 <@Dolemite> You should photoshop out that Shanghai Noon poster.
13:22 <@shapr> hey, I like that movie
13:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> that monitor is just asking to editing
13:23 <@shapr> Wilpig: I figure my pic and link won't be updated until the next time the stats page is regenerated, right?
13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> or he manually puts the pic in place
13:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
13:31 <@Dolemite> it manually puts the lotion on its skin
13:34 <@notlarry> If you know what I mean...  If you know what I mean...
13:37 <@Wilpig> shapr: correct
13:57 < aestetix> ok so
13:57 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: here's a fun question for you
13:57 < aestetix> What would Milton Friedman think of cloud computing?
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14:23 <@notlarry> Ok, having to explain to my newly appointed supervisor (who works a noc shift) that the switches in our data center currently have the configuration information we need to put into the replacement switches, hurt me deep inside.   If you know what I mean...
14:26 <@Corydon76-home> notlarry: Good practice would dictate that the switch configurations are backed up elsewhere
14:27 < aestetix> ugh
14:27 <@Corydon76-home> If a switch does blow up and the configuration is unrecoverable, you still have the config to build the replacement
14:28 < aestetix> Do *any* of you handle context-switching well?
14:28 <@Corydon76-home> Only when the contexts are similar
14:28 <@Corydon76-home> Moving between this conversation and religious arguments on Facebook is easy
14:28 < aestetix> Fair enough.
14:29 <@Corydon76-home> Moving between writing code and your completely gross inquiries, not so much
14:29 < aestetix> heh
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14:32 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: do you think writing code has any place within existentialist philosophy?
14:32 < aestetix> Since writing code is all about creating and manipulating labels, whereas existentialists have an inherent defiance of being labeled...
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14:34 <@Corydon76-home> Let me quote Werner von Braun on that topic:  "Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?  That's not my department."
14:35 < aestetix> Unless they fall on your house.
14:35 <@Corydon76-home> That is a matter of policy, not a matter of getting the code written
14:35 < aestetix> What about Real Genius?
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14:40 <@notlarry> Corydon76-home: Not my point, but you have a very good idea  If you know what I mean...
14:41 <@Corydon76-home> notlarry: I'm just saying he may be of the type to expect that you would never need to mess with production equipment in order to get replacement equipment ready.
14:42 <@Corydon76-home> although I kind of suspect you mean that he's utterly clueless about managed switches
14:44 <@Corydon76-home> One of these days I need to partition the network and really use the VLAN capabilities
14:44 <@Corydon76-home> and of course, I'm talking about the home network
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16:25 <@Wilpig> http://www.wired.com/2014/08/zombie-ant-fungus-in-the-us/
16:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Turns Out the U.S. Has Its Very Own Species of Ant-Zombifying Fungus | Science | WIRED (at www.wired.com)
16:26 < aestetix> I really shouldn't have watched a video on how a 600 pound woman lost weight, right before lunch
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17:59 <@Mirage> http://www.wired.com/2014/08/doctor-who-prep/
17:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: What You Need to Know Before Watching the New Doctor Who | Underwire | WIRED (at www.wired.com)
18:34 <@notlarry> Ok, maybe I'll try watching an episode or two.  Where do I find this Doctor, um, Doctor, er, Doctor who?  If you know what I mean...
18:40 < aestetix> so
18:40 < aestetix> Is it wrong to suggest to a coworker that he visit a sex worker?
18:40 < aestetix> He needs it badly.
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18:46 <@Dagmar> notlarry: You have televisions.  Just put one of them on one of The Doctor Who Channels, formerly known as BBC America and BBC 1
18:47 <@Dagmar> It's literally *nothing* but Doctor Who on those channels, all the time, until about 11pm tomorrow
18:47 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm not convinced that 11pm block isn't a Doctor Who spinoff of some kind.
18:52 <@Dagmar> http://www.bbcamerica.com/intruders/videos/two-souls-one-body/
18:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Two Souls, One Body | Videos | Intruders | BBC America (at www.bbcamerica.com)
18:52 <@Dagmar> Okay, it's not but I'm still recording it
19:18 <@notlarry> Yeah, don't have television
19:29 <@Dagmar> You do at work
19:29 <@Dagmar> So... Best Buy has a viable USB charger that's 2.4A for $19.99, or... A Hello Kitty tablet charger (2.1a) for $9.99 on sale.
19:30 <@Dagmar> It's just ten bucks more
19:53 < RangerZ> Dagmar: I picked up elite
20:09 <@Dagmar> cool
20:11 < RangerZ> jesus H christ
20:11 < RangerZ> so many commands
20:11 <@Dagmar> Yeah.
20:11 <@Dagmar> I made a quick reference card to hang next to my monitor
20:12 < RangerZ> I've noticed that people do that
20:12 < RangerZ> though... Freespace 2 came with one too
20:12 < RangerZ> so 'ehh'
20:12 < RangerZ> its probably not that bad
20:12 <@Dagmar> Well, it's not *unusual*.  Flight sims tend to be complex.
20:15 < RangerZ> yeah
20:15 < RangerZ> game glitched and crashed on me
20:15 < RangerZ> just havne't gone back in, lol
20:15 < RangerZ> b/c I'll waste the weekend in it
20:16 <@Dagmar> I had that happen during one of the 'combat scenarios'
20:16 <@Dagmar> Hasn't really happened since
20:19 < RangerZ> yeah, it was something about trying to jump to hyperlight to go to next system
20:20 < RangerZ> man... I feel bad for the parents of murdered journalist
20:20 < RangerZ> but...we CAN NOT negiotiate with kidnappers
20:21 < RangerZ> unfortunately Spain and France paid something like 100m$ each for some hostiages or something
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21:15 <@Dagmar> Okay.  This is no longer funny
21:15 < RangerZ> ?
21:15 <@Dagmar> Once I get this new Doctor Who recorded tomorrow night, I'm wiping this MythBuntu install and building this thing on Slackware
21:16 < RangerZ> mythbuntu?
21:16 <@Dagmar> This build of MythBuntu runs like _crap_
21:16 < RangerZ> 14.04?
21:16 <@Dagmar> Yeah, its a prebuilt MythTV on Ubuntu
21:17 <@Dagmar> There's rather a *lot* of shit running that shouldn't be
21:19 <@Dagmar> MythWEb is fucking *slow*
21:19 <@Dagmar> Goddamn thing is using half of it's swap
21:19 <@Dagmar> Like, WTF is this shit
21:28 < RangerZ> myth TV has never once been user friendly, etc
21:29 < RangerZ> and combining like voltron with ubuntu can't make anything good
21:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah but my last build of it actually had all the shit working at elast
21:30 <@Dagmar> er least
21:30 < RangerZ> ahh
21:30 <@Dagmar> This is so haphazardly configured it pisses me off
21:30 <@Dagmar> They didn't test any of this shit
21:30 <@Dagmar> It's just sort of thrown onto the CD by idiots apparently
21:30 < RangerZ> lol
21:34 < RangerZ> I'm starting to think that we need super lean OSs and vagrant files for adding feature
21:34 < RangerZ> features*
21:35 < RangerZ> b/c I'm looking into docker more and more
21:42 < RangerZ> and I'm thinking a good linux distro that uses that (or one of the other similar ideas) would provide both a good way to quickly obtain software, but mainly better sandboxing, etc.
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22:17 <@oddball> By the way, if anyone is near Mt. Juliet and is ever looking for a liquor store, the Providence Liquor shop across from Providence Place is awesome.
22:39 <@Wilpig> https://woodrocket.com/series/doctor-whore   just gonna leave this here
22:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: WoodRocket | Doctor Whore Videos (at woodrocket.com)
22:41 <@sasquatc4> man ill give it to sony, after their psn store got hacked they got super anal on security
22:42 <@Dagmar> wilpig: LOL
22:44 <@Dagmar> That is _truly_ awful porn
22:46 <@Wilpig> blame Dolemite for sending it to me
22:46 <@Wilpig> the amy pond look alike was kinda close
22:50 <@Dagmar> They have a ton of other terrible spoofs as well, apparently
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23:45 <@opticron> Wilpig, hilarious
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