--- Log opened Tue Aug 12 00:00:17 2014
00:08 <@Dagmar> Be afraid https://twitter.com/Warcraft/status/498921832578158593/photo/1
00:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Warcraft: Heres a peek. #LordsofWar ... (at twitter.com)
00:11 <@Dagmar> Blackrock Fragment.  Use: Combine 10 of these to make one Green Tea Leaf.
00:11 <@Dagmar> o.O
00:11 <@Dagmar> _there's_ a bug.  Lol
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00:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> at this point WOW is a bug
00:17 <@Dagmar> No, at this point it's got more mechanics than freakin' Pokemon
00:18 <@Dagmar> What's impressive is that they completely reengineer the gameplay every 2-3 years and people don't flee
00:27 < aestetix> man that level is hard
00:27 < aestetix> have you guys played black mesa
00:32 < aestetix> ok what the fuck
00:32 < aestetix> I might live under a rock, I've never heard of GoPro though
00:33 < aestetix> and all these idiots are saying that Polaroid's new thing will never make it because GoPro has the brand name
00:33 < aestetix> I'm pretty sure Polaroid is better known
00:35 <@Dagmar> Well, Polaroid is sort of _extremely_ late to the game on this one
00:35 < aestetix> But the vast majority of people already know what polaroid is
00:36 <@Dagmar> ...and also, GoPro's _massive_ selling point is *image stabilization*.
00:36 <@Dagmar> ...and no.  OLD people know what Polaroid is
00:36 <@Dagmar> WTR to image stablization, see also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8
00:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Hula Cam at Burning Man 2012 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:36 <@Dagmar> Polaroid hasn't made any film since like 2004.
00:37 <@Dagmar> ...which kinda sucks because I have a thing here that _prints_ onto Polaroids
00:37 < aestetix> I already like this video. Yay boobies
00:37 <@Dagmar> aestetix: yeah but it is fucking _rock solid_
00:37 <@Dagmar> It looks positively dreamlike
00:38 <@Dagmar> ...and people with GoPro's are putting htem on their helmets or the dash of their _extremely vibrating bike_ and having wrecks and shit and _expecting_ the video will be usable
00:38 <@Dagmar> It has a pretty hardcore reputation
00:38 < aestetix> so someone who is 25 doesn't know what polaroid is?
00:39 <@Dagmar> The odds are that _their_ first camera was digital.
00:39 <@Dagmar> That would be _Sony_ space, not Polaroid
00:40 <@Dagmar> Sony and Nikon sold the _hell_ out of digital cameras
00:41 <@Dagmar> Polaroid's name is not likely to get them much more than a foot in the door, considering how cheap the GoPro cameras are, and the shit with which everyone knows they will put up.
00:42 <@Dagmar> A used one is going to be about $100
00:42 <@Dagmar> Brand new, $200
00:42 <@Dagmar> ..and that's 1080@30fps ot 720@60fps
00:42 < aestetix> man every girl in that video is hot
00:43 < aestetix> which is honesty what burning man is like
00:43 <@Dagmar> Well, yes.
00:44 <@Dagmar> The last major digital offering Polaroid had was a "social" camera that basically... took thumbnails.
00:44 <@Dagmar> It was popular among japanese kids who were already used to photo sticker booths.
00:44 <@Dagmar> Flopped _mightily_ here
00:45 <@Dagmar> Until we see a price tag on this little cube, they might be gearing up to flop again on price alone
00:46 <@Dagmar> Also, Polaroid's "hipster" offering is basically this http://www.polaroidstore.com/store/products/instant-film/instant-film-for-polaroid-600-cameras-impossible-prd2785.htm
00:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Color Protection Instant Film for Polaroid 600 Cameras, 8 Instant Photos | Polaroid Store (at www.polaroidstore.com)
00:47 <@Dagmar> The camera you can buy from them is a _refurb_
00:47 <@Dagmar> ...and $23 for 8 photos... LOL
00:48 <@Dagmar> It's actually more expensive now than it was 10 years ago
00:50 < aestetix> sorry boobies
00:50 <@Dagmar> Oh I know
00:50 <@Dagmar> I have the 1080 original around here somehwere
00:51 <@Dagmar> It's mesmerizing
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00:51 <@Dagmar> I was like "This is going to sell the _crap_ out of some cameras."
00:53 < aestetix> ok fuck you youtube
00:54 < aestetix> watched five videos of boobies at burning man
00:54 < aestetix> and youtube then recommends a video of jacob appelbaum
00:54 <@Dagmar> heheh
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00:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRMibke_S5s wow....  just wow
00:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: Sarah Palin Embarrasses Herself - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
00:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> i feel bad for her
00:58 < aestetix> oh fuck yes
00:58 < aestetix> http://conversations.nokia.com/2014/08/11/nokia-130/
00:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> wow... nice
00:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> bad news... not to be sold in US
00:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> can almost promise you that
01:00 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ|Laptop: Sarah Palin deserves every wince
01:08 < aestetix> RangerZ|Laptop: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118925/pikettys-capital-theory-misunderstands-inherited-wealth-today
01:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: interesting
01:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> but if you have enough wealth, it is quite possible to setup an ever-lasting trust that enriches the main family, and has enough funding to fund -at least- up til terminal-degree education is complete
01:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> so instead of deciding which child inherits the company, you decide which child inherits the trust fund
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01:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> "The real danger is not inequality per se but bad policy that suppresses growth and thus the accumulation of wealth, delaying this utopia for the masses longer than necessary. "
01:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> from someone who actually _is_ from the chicago school of economics (and also one from its law school)
01:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> I think the real problem is that we're facing a point in society where we could easily envision a society where people don't _have_ to do any (more likely very little) work for everyone to live comfortably
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01:28 < aestetix> you mean if your last name is Rockefeller
01:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then of course there is NotLarry
01:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: rockefellers, and other billionaires
01:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> hell even multi-millionaires could provide 30~40k/yr easily
01:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> I don't think focusing on the super wealthy is going matter much, b/c I think if your your goal is to  provide a basic level of human living for everyone, then you can easily allow the super rich, to be super rich
01:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> but the reward structure for investment bankers vs school teachers needs to be better balanced, thats for damn sure
01:32 < aestetix> man
01:32 < aestetix> I am going to so much effort to make fun of Harvard
01:43 < aestetix> http://vodlocker.com/lwrbyt1n3atm
01:44 < aestetix> I'm putting a clip from this episode on the nymrights blog when I announce speaking at  Haaaaaahvard
01:45 < RangerZ1> what part?
01:45 < aestetix> go to 15:00
01:46 < RangerZ1> wow... i actually remember this ep
01:46 < aestetix> it's because it's absolutely brilliant
01:46 < RangerZ1> he gets like 1500+ (on the old 1600 scale)
01:47 < RangerZ1> trust us... we know how brilliant Saved by the Bell is
01:47 < RangerZ1> what do you think we watched when we were home sick from school
01:47 < RangerZ1> LOL
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01:51 < aestetix> I think it's the only episode I remember
01:52 < aestetix> because it was so absolutely ridiculous
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01:57 < aestetix> http://www.occupy.com/article/75-missouri-voters-approve-privacy-amendment-block-nsa-spying
01:57 < aestetix> Fuck yes missouri
02:01 < RangerZ1> completely unconstitional, but its a good symbol
02:03 < RangerZ1> hmm... interesting wording, but still I'm in favor of at least symbol, if not actually enforacable
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02:12 < aestetix> wow
02:12 < aestetix> youtube already flagged it
02:13 < aestetix> Fuck NBC
02:13 < aestetix> They could at least put the fucking video up on their own youtube channel and serve ads
02:13 < aestetix> Instead of censoring it
02:14 < RangerZ> is it part of a video?
02:14 < RangerZ> or just a clip you posted?
02:14 < aestetix> just a clip I posted
02:14 < RangerZ> ahh
02:14 < aestetix> It's a clip from that episode
02:14 < RangerZ> you can't do that
02:14 < RangerZ> if you want to post it, and get away with it, like Lessig, put it in a video
02:14 < aestetix> But you see my point?
02:14 < RangerZ> where you talk about it
02:14 < RangerZ> ohh I agree, but it their right to be stupid
02:15 < RangerZ> :/
02:15 < aestetix> I mean
02:15 < aestetix> They could easily put a fucking ad on it
02:15 < aestetix> Or at least make the episode available on their channel, and I Could link to the timestamp within it
02:15 < RangerZ> they don't want that
02:15 < RangerZ> b/c they lose control
02:15 < RangerZ> thats all this about
02:16 < RangerZ> fair use is the only way to steal their rights away
02:16 < aestetix> let's see if vimeo does the same thing
02:16 < RangerZ> it won't 'immediately' but as soon as one of the companies NBC hires, finds it
02:16 < RangerZ> they will
02:16 < RangerZ> don't bother
02:16 < RangerZ> you need to include it in a video, like lessig did about AMVs
02:16 < aestetix> how do I do that
02:16 < RangerZ> thats the ONLY legal way of posting it
02:17 < aestetix> example?
02:17 < aestetix> man the law is broken
02:17 < RangerZ> well... are you using the video as parody or satire?
02:17 < aestetix> yes
02:17 < RangerZ> b/c satire isn't legally allowed
02:17 < RangerZ> only parody
02:17 < RangerZ> or 'news reporting'
02:17 < RangerZ> etc
02:17 < aestetix> it's parody
02:17 < aestetix> I'm speaking at Harvard
02:17 < aestetix> So I have a video clip mocking harvard
02:17 < RangerZ> but its not parody of the clip
02:18 < RangerZ> its parody of harvard
02:18 < RangerZ> thats the diff
02:18 < RangerZ> your parody has to be of the CLIP itself
02:18 < aestetix> ok
02:18 < RangerZ> http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-11-09/legal-scholar-praises-anime-music-videos-at-conference
02:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Legal Scholar Praises Anime Music Videos at Conference - News - Anime News NetworkAnime News Network (at www.animenewsnetwork.com)
02:19 < RangerZ> link to talk is there, i think it is one from 2007
02:19 < aestetix> so if I can find something mocking the bad acting in it
02:19 < aestetix> and put that video after it, would that count?
02:20 < RangerZ> i'd do a more 'news' approach
02:20 < RangerZ> disecting the video, showing how it is true
02:20 < RangerZ> etc
02:20 < RangerZ> and how it relates to what you are talking about as a whole
02:20 < RangerZ> fair use, other than professors/teachers is hard to get
02:21 < RangerZ> http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
02:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: U.S. Copyright Office - Fair Use (at www.copyright.gov)
02:21 < aestetix> this is fucking stupid
02:22 < aestetix> interestingly the vide is only blocked in the united states
02:22 < aestetix> see my issue is
02:22 < aestetix> the video is not on youtube
02:22 < aestetix> and yet youtube obviously has a massive list of videos
02:22 < aestetix> they COULD put it on there
02:22 < aestetix> but they chose to be assholes
02:22 < RangerZ> you have no legal right to post it, thats where your common sense/law divert
02:23 < RangerZ> they have the legal right to be dumb mother fucking assholes
02:23 < RangerZ> lol
02:24 < aestetix> the best part is
02:24 < aestetix> I don't even want to think of how much money they sank into this
02:26 < RangerZ> but if you could find clips that talk about names
02:27 < RangerZ> and psuedonyms, etc
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02:27 < RangerZ> then you could use that in a video , easily, as long as you were discussing it, or showing how it gets things right/wrong
02:27 < RangerZ> etc
02:27 < RangerZ> so news clips are fair game that way too
02:29 < RangerZ> holy fuck... Windows 9 RC could be out Q2/Q3 of next year
02:29 < RangerZ> wow... poor Win 8
02:31 < aestetix> at the moment I'm trying to figure out how to game their algorithm
02:31 < RangerZ> speed up the audio 2x
02:31 < RangerZ> but...
02:31 < RangerZ> that'll make it chipmunk
02:31 < RangerZ> lol
02:31 < aestetix> oh you think it's an audio think?
02:31 < RangerZ> yeah i know it is
02:32 < aestetix> what about adding static
02:32 < RangerZ> won't matter unless it bothers the top of the EQ wave too
02:32 < RangerZ> b/c what they do is basically hash the EQ wave form
02:32 < RangerZ> peaks*
02:32 < aestetix> got it
02:33 < aestetix> see originally this was a silly idea
02:33 < aestetix> but now it's war
02:34 < RangerZ> why does it have to be 'hosted' ?
02:34 < RangerZ> just bring a laptop and play it
02:34 < RangerZ> lol
02:34 < aestetix> ohhhhh
02:34 < aestetix> it's just a clip I was gonna embed on the nymrights.org page announcing the talk
02:34 < aestetix> I'm not actually using it in the talk or anything
02:34 < RangerZ> ohh
02:34 < RangerZ> then yeah... you're boned
02:34 < aestetix> I'm purely making fun of harvard
02:35 < aestetix> or.. haaaaaaahvard
02:37 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Uyj8Vsa-g HAHAHA
02:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: DID YOUTUBERS/VINERS GET SCREWED BY THE TEEN CHOICE AWARDS? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
02:37 < RangerZ> he just embedded sbtb
02:37 < RangerZ> ~3min
02:44 < aestetix> https://vimeo.com/103210281
02:44 < aestetix> there we go
02:46  * RangerZ REPORTS IT FOR COPYRIGHT VIOLATION
02:46 < RangerZ> ;) lol
02:46 < aestetix> fuck you :p
02:46 < RangerZ> but still, hope it lasts
02:46 < aestetix> tell me that little clip isn't hilarious
02:46 < RangerZ> its funny
02:46 < RangerZ> and nbc is silly for not hosting it themselves
02:46 < aestetix> yes
02:47 < RangerZ> but NBC doesn't want the internet to exist
02:47 < aestetix> normally I won't wish this
02:47 < aestetix> but hopefully those idiots will be dead in 10 years
02:47 < RangerZ> which is why they are going to go 'tiered' service
02:49 < aestetix> http://nymrights.org/2014/08/12/omg-haaaaaarvard/
02:49 < aestetix> there we go
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02:53 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwLHdBTQ7s this'll end well
02:53 <@GateKeeper> Title: Fun with a few 9V batteries. (244 of them) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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03:01 < aestetix> ok now to take out my copyright anger on black mesa
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07:19 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:18  * wilpig screams
09:38  * ignotus-sdf didn't do it.
09:39 <@Dagmar> So...  How'd the meeting go?
09:41 <@wilpig> still no meeting
09:41 <@wilpig> more space cadet behavior from neteng
09:41 <@wilpig> he expects 344 cables to be run and labled by 3pm today
09:42 <@wilpig> 5 hours from now.  I might be able to get half of the labels printed by then
09:43 <@Dagmar> DIdja tell your supervisor that an impossible deadline has been made and you need additional pylons er resources/
09:44 <@Dagmar> Because _that_ is a ludicrous request
09:44 <@Dolemite> His supervisor has been at DEFCON for the past week
09:44 <@wilpig> both statements true
09:44 <@Dagmar> No, _your_ supervisor
09:44 <@wilpig> my manager should be here in about an hour
09:44 <@Dagmar> Cool.
09:44 <@Dagmar> That would be the way to play this... To simply tell your boss that an impossible request has been made.
09:45 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: Yes, Wilpig's manager has been at DEFCON
09:45 <@wilpig> he's been briefly apprised of what's going on.  I'm waiting for him to get here to see the actual ticket
09:45 <@Dagmar> Cuz it sure sounds like someone's being a vindictive little bitch
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09:46 <@wilpig> he's just being a fuckin' space cadet
09:46  * Dagmar waves at Sumo
09:46 <@wilpig> he's up in space and us mere mortals can't communicate to him
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09:49 <@Dagmar> People shouldn't be getting that high before woek
09:49 <@Dolemite> Wow.  Fire Eye has taken the ability to give you zero information in the most words on a web page to a new level.
09:50 <@wilpig> tempted to add this to the ticket.  http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23846155.jpg
09:51 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Oh dear.  That Polaroid camera's video quality is somewhat questionable
09:51 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I guess they really haven't learned their lesson yet
09:52 <@Dagmar> Looks like the reason it does 720@60fps and 1080@30fps is that at 1080 it's _interpolating_ to get the details it needs.
09:52 <@Dagmar> Soo... not "real" 1080.  Whoops.
09:52 <@Dagmar> They'd better be selling that fucker for under $100
09:54 <@Dagmar> Doh.  $99.
09:54 <@Dagmar> They are fucked
09:55 <@Dagmar> There are already higher-quality cameras available for cheaper without having to go into DX-space
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10:00 <@Mirage> wtf..Robin Williams committed suicide?!
10:00 <@Mirage> Damn, I missed that yesterday.
10:02 <@Corydon76-home> He died, yes.  Preliminary supposition is that it was suicide, but an investigation is underway.
10:02 <@Mirage> The internets say suicide...the internets are never wrong..
10:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> the rope around his neck was a dead giveaway
10:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> but it could be a triad murder
10:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> also... fuck being at work 3 hours before my alarm is set to wake up
10:03 <@Corydon76-home> News didn't say anything about a rope; I assumed, given the cause of death, that it was likely gas asphyxiation
10:03 <@Dolemite> Oh, by the way
10:03 <@Dolemite> RangerZ|Laptop: *golf clap*
10:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> the email?
10:04 <@Dolemite> yes
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10:14 < dasunt> Anyone looking for a job in Nashville, Linux Admin with Hadoop & Puppet experience/knowledge?
10:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> dasunt: my friend is looking to move down here and has lots of linux tech support exp
10:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> don't know if he knows hadoop or puppet
10:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dolemite: yeah, its pretty silly at this point, PN isn't that far away
10:18 <@Dolemite> < 90 days
10:19 < dasunt> RangerZ|Laptop: Well, if he's not an idiot, Puppet isn't too hard to pick up.
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10:19 < dasunt> My contracting agency completely screwed up and and called me, while I'm still on contract til October, for a job in Nashville.  I'm 1,000 miles away.  ;)
10:20 < dasunt> RangerZ|Laptop: So if he's interested, I'll pass the job position onto him.  Just /msg me your/his email address.
10:21 < dasunt> It seems to be a senior linux admin position, healthcare co, $85-90k.
10:21 <@Dagmar> lol does it say where?
10:22 < dasunt> Fortune 100 healthcare client in Nashville, TN.
10:22 <@Dagmar> That could easily be Vanderbilt
10:22 <@Dolemite> or HCA
10:22 <@Dagmar> More likely HCA since I hear they actually try to keep employees
10:22 <@Dagmar> ...however, if it turns out to be Vanderbilt, I'd like to know.
10:23 <@Dagmar> I would readily quit my job to work at Vanderbilt for that money, provided it isn't working for ITS.  ;)
10:23 < dasunt> You don't want to work at HCA?
10:23 <@Dagmar> Not until I've gotten to add a few bullet points to my resume while I'm here
10:23 < dasunt> Ah, okay.
10:23 <@Dagmar> This is why I was furious with certain managers in ITS
10:24 <@Dagmar> I was trying to get out of there, and they wouldn't let me write a MOTHERFUCKING SHELL SCRIPT without managerial interference
10:24 <@Dagmar> Fuck Hogan
10:24 <@Dagmar> Fuck Hogan
10:24 <@Dagmar> Fuck Hogan!
10:25 <@Dagmar> May his soul burn in hell for all eternit
10:25 <@Dagmar> y
10:26 <@Dolemite> So say we all.
10:27 < RangerZ|Laptop> sure, why not
10:30 < dasunt> Okay, inquiring if that's Vanderbilt.
10:36 <@Dagmar> That would also be a $20,000 pay raise
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10:36 <@Dagmar> ...which is why if I could walk out of here today and come back in a week for $20,000 more, I'd skip lunch today.  ;)
10:36 <@Dagmar> As in, I would leave and not come back.
10:37 <@Dagmar> I warned HR several times
10:37 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: You could make the same money as you do at Vanderbilt if you moved here and cut the grass at the lab.
10:39 <@Dagmar> You have _ionizing radiation_.
10:39 <@Dagmar> No thank you.
10:44 <@Mirage> Dagmar: writing shell scripts is pretty high-level stuff.  I'm suprised they didn't assign a project manager for you..I'd recommend Cathy.  =)
10:45 <@Dagmar> I
10:45 <@Dagmar> I'd tolerate it for Cindy
10:45 <@Dagmar> ...but she got the fuck out of ITS and now works on the 5th floor on the MC side now.  :)
10:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: you should just apply to ISIS
10:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> so you can laugh at ITS
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10:46 <@Dolemite> Make sure it's the correct ISIS
10:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah
10:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> either pays better than ITS
10:47 <@Dolemite> Any ISIS will do?
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10:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> and less hazardous to your health, considering how violent Dagmar is beginning to get over his HR record
10:48 <@Dagmar> Am not
10:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> 'sure'
10:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> why do you think they discontinued use of the smoke stack, and then removed the built in ladder to the top?
10:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> because they wanted to go green? haha
10:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> they were afraid of dagmar
10:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: are you still chuckling when you think of sand? hehe
11:02 <@shapr> good morning?
11:03  * ignotus-sdf does not see hopping. Where's the hopping?
11:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> ignotus-sdf: we did it earlier
11:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> you missed it
11:04  * shapr boings in rebellion
11:04 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: WASSUP?
11:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> its dangerous to magnetic poles if too many fat guys jump at once...
11:05 <@Mirage> magnetic poles...or plate tectonics?
11:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> both
11:06 <@shapr> BOOM!
11:06 <@shapr> plateshot!
11:11 <@ignotus-sdf> I just figgered shapr does all the hopping, but I prolly did miss it.
11:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> s/figgered/fingered ?
11:23 <@ignotus-sdf> That would be rude.
11:28 <@ignotus-sdf> shapr: WASSUP? (since I forgot to answer earlier...)
11:32 <@shapr> ignotus-sdf: no hopping today!
11:32 <@shapr> Today is not a hoppy day.
11:41 <@Corydon76-home> Giving up beer in favor of whiskey?
11:43 <@brimstone> whisky! \o/
11:43 <@shapr> I prefer Imperial Stout
11:43 <@ignotus-sdf> good choice.
11:46 <@shapr> http://www.oneweirdkerneltrick.com/catbasis.pdf
12:00 <@ignotus-sdf> wow. Still trying to process that.
12:00 <@Corydon76-home> http://thehackernews.com/2014/08/airplanes-can-be-hacked-through_4.html
12:02 <@Dagmar> Yeah but like I told the stewardess who was asknig me about that once... I want the plane to *fucking land* where it's supposed to, and lots of exploit mechanics tend to result in system instablity.
12:03 <@Dagmar> I ain't interested in trying to exploit something that can fucking "crash" and take me with it.
12:04 <@ignotus-sdf> and now, we connect the dots. http://thehackernews.com/2014/08/how-to-weaponize-your-cat-to-hack-your_9.html
12:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: How to Weaponize your Cat to Hack Neighbours Wi-Fi Passwords (at thehackernews.com)
12:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> just wait until I release my DDOS rats
12:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> with exploding watch bombs tied around their wastes
12:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> (Yes i rewatched Wanted recently)
12:06 <@opticron> watch bombs tied around rat shit?
12:06 <@shapr> sounds amazing!
12:07 <@shapr> Corydon76-home: I found something similar on my most recent flight. They had inflight wifi, but they wanted you to pay money for it...
12:07 <@ignotus-sdf> opticron: beat me to it... ;)
12:07 <@Dagmar> That's somewhat understandable but I would expect their rates to be usurious
12:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> waists*
12:08 <@opticron> ignotus-sdf, that or frozen rat piss cubes
12:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> fuck, thats what no sleep will do to you
12:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> good news opticron, you're the lucky fella who gets to liqueur up crazypants, and take one for the team
12:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
12:09 <@shapr> and I had some useful tools on my laptop and a full battery. I learned fun things about in-flight wifi systems.
12:09 <@ignotus-sdf> Don't feel bad. we just got THIS gem in our ticket queue from our monitoring team: "phone number 555-555-5555 (Tech contacts) seems invalid and I can't find out where it's located."
12:09 <@shapr> whoa
12:09 <@Dagmar> lol
12:09 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ|Laptop: what about liquoring her up and putting her on a bus to Cleveland?
12:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> don't curse cleveland any more than it already is
12:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> send her to atlanta
12:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> cheaper fare too
12:10 <@brimstone> no, send her to nashville
12:10 <@Corydon76-home> How about Cincinnatti?
12:10 <@shapr> Is she migrating south?
12:10 <@ignotus-sdf> oh.hayul.no.
12:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> she's in nashville
12:10 <@brimstone> keep her there
12:10 <@brimstone> who are we talking about?
12:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> crazypants
12:10 <@brimstone> yeah, nashville's good for her
12:10 <@ignotus-sdf> Send her to Cleveland. They might just win a Super Bowl out of fear and agony.
12:11 <@Corydon76-home> That's what I was saying
12:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> or NBA
12:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> since asshole is coming back
12:11 <@opticron> RangerZ|Laptop, if by take one for the team you mean NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE, then I'm right there with you
12:11 <@Corydon76-home> And given she doesn't drive, the likelihood that she'd find her way back is pretty low
12:11 <@Dolemite> California would be well suited to absorb her kind of crazy
12:11 <@ignotus-sdf> California absorbs ANY kind of crazy.
12:11 < RangerZ|Laptop> you know... aestetix.... has plenty of room
12:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> how pissed would she be if we handed her a one way ticket to cali?
12:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL
12:12 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ|Laptop: You really shouldn't mention his name; you're liable to rouse him out of his coffin
12:12 <@ignotus-sdf> Just tell her she is going to be an actress.
12:12 <@Dolemite> vaina!
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh... speaking of... my friend is an extra in batman v superman
12:13 <@ignotus-sdf> Of course, anyone that has lived in SoCal knows that's code for waitress.
12:13 <@Corydon76-home> Maybe we could get the US military to drop her over Iraq and let ISIS deal with her
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> or her deal with ISIS
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> one way or the other
12:13 <@Dolemite> win-win
12:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> she might annoy them into submission
12:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> oh hell... we should have her apply for tumblr
12:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> she'd be a perfect match
12:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> have her move to NJ too
12:18 <@Dolemite> Yeah, wilpig would be all over that
12:18 <@shapr> aestetix: vaina!
12:18 <@Corydon76-home> Tumblr has enough heat issues without her blowing more hot air
12:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> but the ice in her veins is probably a good cooling source
12:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> and she produces pure silca sand
12:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe
12:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> god. I just wish she would give up on PN, and go try to be allowed to any of the self-respecting cons in the area that have all blacklisted her
12:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> "However, it is really important to note that just because a security researcher can perform the hack, doesn't mean hackers are doing it or can easily perform it, too. " ... no that is BAD journalism
12:22 <@Corydon76-home> Weird; it's the second Tuesday of the month and I haven't heard anything out of NLUG
12:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> 'be very afraid... if researchers have found this, bet that russian/chinese hackers found it years ago, and have been using it for a while now"
12:23 <@Dolemite> Maybe crazypants has gotten to the NLUG folks, too!  Isn't Andrew M the current President of NLUG?
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12:40 <@Dagmar> Wilpig would drive down here and *stab* you for suggesting that if it happened.
12:40 <@Dagmar> ...and I would not intervene.
12:45 <@shapr> Dolemite: dang, you beat me to it
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13:19 <@shapr> yay! I'm excited about being on the electronics in costuming panels at DragonCon!
13:19  * shapr hops cheerfully
13:19 <@shapr> dangit, I said today was a NO HOP DAY.
13:25 <@wilpig> when rangerz comes back.  someone punch that motherfucker
13:30 <@oddball> Didn't like the email?
13:34 <@wilpig> antoehr email? 
13:34 <@wilpig> no I mean for that shit about sending crazy pants up here
13:34 <@wilpig> fuck that.  hell no.
13:35 <@wilpig> I thought his email was dead on.  I would have flamed more
13:35 <@oddball> ah, right
13:36 <@oddball> And yeah... I couldn't help but chuckle at that email.
13:37 <@wilpig> it held up to what I expect from dru.  an excuse
13:37 <@Dolemite> I golf clapped for him earlier
13:38 <@wilpig> btw I was just told by my manager that he has to have a talk with me alone.  here it comes
13:38 <@Mirage> wilpig: is that site you did on my Hostmonster space?
13:39 <@wilpig> no
13:39 <@wilpig> phreaknic is on dr4amhost
13:39 <@Mirage> wilpig: regardless, you should update the page to that it always says that the updated PN18 page will be posted on tomorrow's date
13:39 <@wilpig> nash2600 is on yours
13:40 <@wilpig> verything else is on mine
13:40 <@Dolemite> wilpig: I still think you can get the geeknic site updated before PN18
13:41 <@Mirage> Dolemite: ++
13:41 <@Mirage> wilpig: Will be planning on waterboarding Dolemite again?  I missed out on it last time.
13:42 <@Dolemite> Only if it's done with decent beer
13:42 <@Dolemite> Or cider.  I've been on a cider kick quite a bit lately.
13:42 <@Mirage> Crispin cider
13:43 <@Dolemite> Cider Boys has some good product, but every time I drink it I think of Jerky Boys, and the horrible things they would want to hide in their cider as a joke.
13:43 <@Mirage> the wife and i tried Crispin at teh Flying Saucer on glass night once...once was enough.
13:44 <@Mirage> I think fermented cat urine might have been about as drinkable.
13:44 <@Dolemite> It's ok
13:44 <@Dolemite> Stella Cidre actually ended up being better than expected
13:54 <@wilpig> Dolemite: i will get that done tonight if i don't fall asleep eaely again
13:55 <@Dolemite> meeting time!
13:57 <@Bahhumbug> Bets on if anyone will reply to RangerZ's mail?
13:58  * oddball eyes the apple pie sitting on the counter and reminds himself it's for Dragoncon.
13:59 <@Bahhumbug> You can always make more.
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13:59 <@brimstone> why are you keeping an apple pie 3 weeks?
13:59 <@brimstone> it's gonna go bad
14:00 <@brimstone> eat it
14:00 <@brimstone> eat it now
14:01 <@Mirage> brimstone: it's booze
14:02 <@brimstone> drink it
14:02 <@brimstone> drink it now
14:03 <@Mirage> who's the print queue person?  lpr0lpd
14:04 <@Corydon76-home> I just realized I may have just set up a shitstorm
14:05 <@Corydon76-home> I suggested that since NLUG has no speaker tonight, they should just invade Nashville PHP Users Group
14:06 <@Corydon76-home> The speaker at Nashville PHP will be Jacques Woodcock, the person who banned Amber from Nashville CoderFaire
14:07 <@ignotus-sdf> Corydon76-home: how deliciously deviant.
14:07 <@Corydon76-home> Also typically in attendance at Nashville PHP is the guy that Amber threatened to sodomize with a giant dildo, which is why she was banned from Nashville CoderFaire
14:08 <@Corydon76-home> Now if we could get jonnyx in that room, that could be some seeds of destruction right there.
14:09 <@sasquatc3> http://collectivelyconscious.net/articles/why-iceland-should-be-in-the-news-but-is-not/
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14:10 <@oddball> I doubt it.  He's pretty damn set on wearing blinders when it comes to people letting him know that she fucking crazy.
14:10 <@sasquatc4> interesting, if its all true, about what has happened in iceland after their economic collapse
14:11 <@ignotus-sdf> It all started with Sigur Ros and LazyTown. That was after the Bjork devastation.
14:12 <@ignotus-sdf> [trollin', trollin', trollin'... keep dem dogies trollin'...]
14:19 <@Corydon76-home> sasquatc4: isn't it amazing how quickly unregulated capitalism can completely destroy an economy?
14:19 <@sasquatc4> si
14:20 <@sasquatc4> its also amazing its not written about almost anywhere, some news radio in italy is apparently the only place
14:20 <@ignotus-sdf> because it's Iceland.
14:21 <@Corydon76-home> Also because none of the calamities predicted befell it by refusing to bow to the bankers
14:21 <@ignotus-sdf> exactly the same reason we don't get reports on the advance of high technology in Zimbabwe.
14:22 <@Corydon76-home> and good news doesn't make the evening news, only calamity
14:23 <@Mirage> or celebrities.  god knows it's much more important to hear about Britney's latest court date vs most anything else
14:24 <@Corydon76-home> Andrew is trying desperately to get the nlug meeting together
14:24 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: tell him to offer punch and pie
14:25 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: +1  Bravo, sir.  Well played.
14:26 <@Corydon76-home> Eh, it's where I'll be anyway.  Seeing another sales pitch by a Dell guy wasn't all that interesting anyway
14:26 <@ignotus-sdf> This will help: http://happynews.com/
14:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Happy News - Real News. Compelling Stories. Always Positive. (at happynews.com)
14:27 <@Corydon76-home> Ooooo.  What if Amber showed up at Nashville PHP not knowing who would be there?
14:27 <@Corydon76-home> Can you imagine the crap?
14:27  * Bahhumbug makes popcorn
14:27 <@Corydon76-home> You'd have to be there, just for the experience of seeing it
14:28 <@Bahhumbug> Seeing people melt down in public isn't really my thing.
14:29  * shapr melts
14:29 <@shapr> Bahhumbug: so, didn't like the wizard of oz, huh?
14:29 <@Corydon76-home> Melt down is unlikely.  I was thinking nuclear detonation
14:30 <@Bahhumbug> Nuclear detonations causes incredible amounts of heat.  Heat makes things melt.  It's all really the same, yet drama from a stupid twit in public.  Thanks, but I will just make some popcorn here and enjoy it while watching tv or something.
14:31 <@Corydon76-home> Perhaps even ending with the commitment of a mutual friend to a mental institution
14:32 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: In the event you care: RHEL 6.6 beta just dropped; release notes: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6-Beta/html/6.6_Release_Notes/index.html
14:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: 6.6 Release Notes (at access.redhat.com)
14:34 <@ignotus-sdf> Um... We already have 7.
14:37 <@ignotus-sdf> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.0_Release_Notes/
14:37 <@GateKeeper> Title: 7.0 Release Notes (at access.redhat.com)
14:37 <@ignotus-sdf> And it has already pissed me off.
14:37 <@ignotus-sdf> I != heart RHEL.
14:38 <@Bahhumbug> Uh, so?
14:39 <@Bahhumbug> 5.10, 6.5 and 7.0 are current; 5.11 and 6.6 are in beta.
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14:49 < aestetix> I am so glad I'm not on twitter this month
14:49 < aestetix> thanks YC for making life hell again
14:55 <@ignotus-sdf> I realise I work for a RHEL shop, but it is still the gently warming, slightly steaming turd on the linux radiator. I didn't like monetizing when Novell tried it, and I don't like it with these guys. But I'm old. I remember the old days when it took 40+ floppies.
14:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> ignotus-sdf: selling support is how you ARE suppose to monetize linux
14:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c to most people... and myself included (except when i want to geek out), the OS is just a middleware between me doing my task and the hardware, lol
14:58 <@Mirage> ignotus-sdf: i think there are quite a few of us who remember the stack-o-floppy installs.  Novell 3.x was horrid when you got it on 5.25" disks.
14:58 <@ignotus-sdf> For us, as a hosting company, we ARE the support. Until support can't update their own shit without 50 levels of redtape, usually connected to people that have never seen a linux prompt, but can talk about it on TV.
14:58 <@Dagmar> FUCK FLOPPY INSTALLS
14:58 <@Dagmar> Ya'll motherfuckers just dont' *know*
14:59 <@Dolemite> RangerZ|Laptop: FYI, you may be interested in the DOE Hackathon coming up.
14:59 <@ignotus-sdf> I do. :( intimately.
14:59 <@shapr> department of energy?
14:59 <@Dolemite> yes
14:59 <@Dolemite> https://www.olcf.ornl.gov/training-event/hackathon-openacc2014/
14:59 <@GateKeeper> Title: Oak Ridge Leadership Computing Facility (at www.olcf.ornl.gov)
15:00 <@Dolemite> Oh, look, it's a hacking event the week of Halloween!
15:00 <@shapr> Does anyone know any municipality that has traffic accident data available with less than a month's lag time?
15:01 <@Mirage> omg..why?! http://www.vmts.net/article/installnovell.htm
15:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: How To: install Novell Netware 3.x on VMware (at www.vmts.net)
15:02 <@Dagmar> lol
15:02 <@Dagmar> I like how they say "install this little thing to keep it from sucking down 100% when Novell is idle."
15:02 <@Dagmar> Novell was _never_ idle.
15:02 <@Dagmar> It predates the efficient use of NOPs to make the CPU take a nap
15:02 <@Dagmar> Supah spinlock!
15:03 <@Dagmar> CHIRALITY!
15:03 <@ignotus-sdf> and then came Zen and IntraNetWare.
15:04 <@ignotus-sdf> remember that silly little space game...
15:05 <@wilpig> don't you be badmouthing zen or intranetware around me
15:05 <@wilpig> they were quite useful
15:05 <@ignotus-sdf> Yes, they were. I had a lot of fun with them.
15:06 <@Dagmar> Fuck them all
15:06 <@Dagmar> If it has IPX as it's first choice of networking, kill it with fire.
15:06 <@wilpig> they switched to IP many years later
15:08 <@ignotus-sdf> Hence IntraNetWare. And I was a fan because of that. Better than NT.
15:08 <@Dagmar> Wh yes.
15:08 <@Dagmar> Ah yes.
15:08 <@Dagmar> Why have sex with goats when you can have sex with sheep instead
15:09 <@ignotus-sdf> Especially in a office land where farm animals are the only options.
15:10 <@Dagmar> Damnit
15:10 <@wilpig> IntraNetare was netware 4.11 it had ip support but nto for clients initially
15:10 <@oddball> Dagmar: Because sheep go to heaven, goats go to hell, and we all know which crowd is more fun to hang out with while atill alive?
15:10 <@Dagmar> I described something as a "chivalry problem" in another channel and no one's taking the bait
15:10 <@wilpig> in fact the first few iterations of the ip based client were horrible
15:11 <@Dagmar> Chivalry problem: Wildly unrealistic user expectations of the environment
15:12 <@Dagmar> "Chivalry is truly dead.  I tried holding the door for a woman once...  All she did was yell at me, call me a pervert, and tell me to get the hell out of the Ladies' Room.'
15:13 <@Corydon76-home> Chivalry is a set of battle etiquette.  Next time a woman asks you where chivalry went, challenge her to a joust.
15:13 <@Dagmar> I think you miss the point of the joke.
15:14 <@Corydon76-home> I think you miss that my response was also a joke
15:14 <@wilpig> Dagmar: please challenge crazypants to a joust
15:14 <@wilpig> we'd all find it amusing if you stuck it to her
15:15 <@Mirage> wilpig: Didn't TCP/IP support come out with Netware 4.1?
15:15 <@wilpig> 4.11
15:15 <@wilpig> 4.1 was still ipx/spx
15:15 <@Dagmar> dafuq
15:15 <@wilpig> tcp/ip support was the big deal to go from 4.1 to 4.11
15:16 <@Dagmar> They've invoked a change freeze for Flulapalooza
15:16 <@wilpig> lol
15:16 <@Dagmar> Since when does giving flu shots require network support?
15:16 <@Mirage> We didn't do many Netware 4.x installs/upgrades.  Most clients at the time were switching to NT 3.51/4
15:17 <@Dagmar> Dru and I did Netware installs... in the Netware class.
15:17 <@wilpig> I did plenty of 3.12 up through 6.5 installs on netware
15:17 <@Dagmar> Just enough to know it was a doomed platform.
15:17 <@wilpig> and then there was the 1.0 netware... event?
15:17 <@wilpig> it was in production on thinnet running a ticket something or other in jackson, tn for the city auditorium
15:18 <@ignotus-sdf> Dagmar: frankly, I liked your joke.
15:18 <@shapr> UAB ran Novell Netware
15:18 <@shapr> they had this big tree, and the root was hosted at the Rust Engineering building
15:18 <@shapr> so I tried FE2O3 for the supervisor password, and that was it.
15:19 <@shapr> when I told 'em they needed to pick a better password they threatened to expel me and told me to never touch their network again
15:19 <@shapr> but they never changed the password
15:19 <@ignotus-sdf> wow. LOL!
15:20 <@shapr> they also ran PrimeOS on the mainframe, and I found some holes there
15:20 <@shapr> and they had a variety of other holes
15:20 <@shapr> I reported all of the holes as "somebody I know told me about this"
15:20 <@shapr> so they thought they had a league of hackers on the campus
15:20 <@shapr> since I always reported each hole to someone different :-P
15:21 <@wilpig> damned new motherboard from dell won't take an asset tag
15:21 <@shapr> They certainly had some nice hardware though, lots of spare CPU cycles floating around.
15:21  * shapr sneaks an asset tag into wilpig's back pocket
15:22 <@shapr> Ok, someone suggest a musical artist I should hear?
15:23 <@critch> Nerosonic
15:23 <@critch> err neurosonic
15:23  * shapr looks
15:23 <@critch> OR Framing Hanley
15:23 <@Corydon76-home> MC Frontalot
15:23 <@shapr> Aw, nothing on Google Play by Neurosonic :-(
15:23 <@shapr> Corydon76-home: already know him, he's funny
15:23  * shapr tries Framing Hanley
15:24 <@critch> shapr: awww, I have it in my google play
15:24 <@shapr> You uploaded it yourself though, right?
15:24 <@critch> yep
15:24 <@shapr> Yeah, I have a bunch of awesome albums/artists that never made it big enough to show up in Google's many millions of tracks
15:24 <@critch> I know the parents of the singer in Framing Hanley
15:24 <@shapr> Brother Machine is an example
15:25 <@shapr> critch: very much 3 doors down
15:26 <@shapr> critch: already heard Gramatik's "So much for Love" ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0psosrTuas
15:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Gramatik - So Much For Love (Official Music Video) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:26 <@shapr> nice video as well
15:28 <@shapr> critch: framing hanley is nice, but a bit too poppy for me at the moment.
15:29 <@critch> shapr: https://play.google.com/music/m/Tpdsjpqsxwx2rgthhpu6fmsxewu
15:31 <@shapr> critch: here's my playlist of random awesome: https://play.google.com/music/playlist/AMaBXylqCvnVZLkwV52pTbcgS2sud5iJgUKIhf08T7KEIlBEo8ChwKaaWUF01QTvJMcG-P4RDhn78Hlxg1YAvm7VeCefGw5B5g==
15:31 <@shapr> warning, it's big
15:31 <@wilpig> shapr: look up Fozzy - lights go out
15:31  * shapr tries this Attrition album
15:32 <@critch> I was turned on to Attrition back in the allofmp3 days
15:33 <@critch> shapr: if you like them, you should also check out Blutengel
15:33 <@shapr> hm, it's okay... a bit too nightwish for me, but well made
15:34 <@critch> shapr: Have you heard of Emilie Autumn
15:34 <@shapr> nope
15:34  * shapr tries
15:34 <@shapr> tasty at first listen :-)
15:34 <@critch> https://play.google.com/music/m/Tve5n5vzvzhhre7qptp3z6k5htq
15:35  * shapr looks up Fozzy
15:36 <@shapr> Emilie is a bit like Amanda Palmer, nice
15:36 <@critch> There is times that Amanda reminds me of Bette Midler
15:36 <@critch> err Emilie does
15:38 <@shapr> and of course, everyone likes Finally Moving by Pretty Lights
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16:38 <@wilpig> shapr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJso7XYphb4
16:39 <@GateKeeper> Title: FOZZY - Lights Go Out (Lyric Video) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
16:42 <@shapr> wilpig: I didn't know you were into WWF
16:42 <@wilpig> i'm not
16:42 <@wilpig> but damnit he's good
16:42 <@shapr> wilpig: The lead singer is a WWF wrestler
16:42 <@wilpig> semi-retired
16:43 <@shapr> still unexpected :-)
16:43 <@wilpig> but yes I know.  chris jericho
16:43 <@wilpig> you heard the song though right?  I mean he is good.  wrestler or not
16:44 <@shapr> yeah, it's well done
16:45 <@shapr> sort of like poppier 80s rock, but an improvement on that even
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17:05 <@Mirage> shapr: improvement!?  no such thing! blasphemy!
17:07 <@Mirage> Just popped one of my coworkers Firefly cherry with this scene:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPRlHwwVIug
17:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: Firefly Clip: The Negotiator - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
17:07 <@Mirage> He's downloading them all now to watch when he gets home.
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18:21 < aestetix> penis
18:29 < aestetix> I wonder what the average amount of time people spend on hold per year is
18:40 <@wilpig> too much
18:44 <@wilpig> there might be somethign wrong with me.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2z0mflgp2jodlj/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-12%20at%206.42.34%20PM.png
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19:02 < aestetix> what's the wealth disparity in NJ?
19:03 < aestetix> since apparently in the bay area it's as bad as rwanda
19:03 < aestetix> which could explain some of our problems
19:03 < aestetix> like the part where you need $100k income to stay above the poverty line
19:06 <@wilpig> I think i'm above the poverty line and I make less than that
19:07 < aestetix> which means the cost of living for you probably isn't as high
19:07 <@wilpig> rent is the biggest expense here by far
19:07 < aestetix> well let me put it this way
19:08 < aestetix> you can get a burrito in the mission for $9
19:08 < aestetix> everything here is unreasonably expensive
19:08 < aestetix> I'm looking forward to moving away
19:46 <@SuMo_D> aestetix are you still ont witter?
19:47 <@SuMo_D> come join our #mvadchat about arts and media education that goes for the rest of you
19:47 <@SuMo_D> I'm trying this weird bird world... come be freinds
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22:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: the wealth gap near you is the biggest in the country other than possibly NYC,Chicago, DC, and VUIT staff meetings
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22:13  * wilpig punches RangerZ|Laptop 
22:13 <@wilpig> motherfucker.  how dare you even think about sending htat kind of shit toward me
22:13 <@wilpig> you keep that crazy bitch down there by you
22:13 <@wilpig> HELLLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOO
22:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
22:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> i wondered if you were going to catch that , hehe
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22:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> wilpig: but wouldn't you love having a room mate?
22:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
23:00 < aestetix> SuMo_D: hi
23:00 < aestetix> SuMo_D: I am, although I'm not actively using it this month.
23:00 < aestetix> SuMo_D: why do you ask?
23:00 <@SuMo_D> heyo
23:00 <@SuMo_D> cause my friend was doing a chat on what art/tech classes should look like
23:00 <@SuMo_D> and help develop that conversations
23:00 < aestetix> ok
23:00 <@SuMo_D> conversation
23:01 <@SuMo_D> and thought you'd have good input
23:01 < aestetix> sure
23:01 < aestetix> I do also have email, esoteric as it may be ;)
23:01 <@SuMo_D> he wants to try to do them every Tues
23:01 <@SuMo_D> twitter chats
23:01 <@SuMo_D> or something....
23:01 <@SuMo_D> got me to actually tweet personal shit instead of just business stuff
23:01 < aestetix> twitter != conversation
23:01 <@SuMo_D> I know...
23:01 < aestetix> twitter = reactionary blather
23:01 <@SuMo_D> but he's into the #chat
23:01 <@SuMo_D> or something
23:02 <@SuMo_D> and I really like this dude... and hopefully will be a paid artist in his middle school classroom soon
23:02 <@SuMo_D> Oh! I did get the job at the art museum to expose young minds to electronics and programming
23:02 <@SuMo_D> so life is good :D
23:02 < aestetix> nice!
23:02 < aestetix> congrats
23:03 <@SuMo_D> yeah! I'm stoked!
23:04 <@SuMo_D> they even wanted me to extend the 6-9 year old class
23:04 <@SuMo_D> but I gotta come up with more shit for them to do now!
23:04 < aestetix> hmm
23:04 <@SuMo_D> should be fun though :)
23:04 < aestetix> you should teach them Robert Crumb's work
23:04 <@SuMo_D> ha
23:06 <@SuMo_D> http://victorianvisualculture.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/robert-crumb-strong-girl2.gif
23:07 < aestetix> man
23:07 < aestetix> Are you familiar with his sketch of the 60s movement hitting a stone wall?
23:07 < aestetix> It's absolutely brilliant.
23:08 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: I should be ashamed.  The Tol'Vir potion hasn't had it's stats squished yet so I used it to kill an elite 100 boss.  LOL
23:08 <@Dagmar> 25 seconds of godlike firepower
23:10 < aestetix> ugh I can't find it
23:15 <@SuMo_D> no I'm not
23:15 < aestetix> oh btw SuMo_D
23:15 < aestetix> https://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/09/aestetix
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23:16 <@SuMo_D> Nice!
23:16 <@SuMo_D> you should ping dmolnar
23:16 < aestetix> isn't he in seattle?
23:16 <@SuMo_D> he's a Harvard alum
23:16 < aestetix> cool!
23:16 <@SuMo_D> yeah!
23:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> 17 of the top 20 dvds on amazon are robin williams movies right now
23:18 < aestetix> and that surprises you?
23:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> no, just interesting
23:19 < aestetix> well
23:19 < aestetix> he deserves it
23:19 < aestetix> He was brilliant
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23:30 <@wilpig> stupid html.
23:30 <@wilpig> can't get this menu to work and i'm too tired to futz with it anymore
23:33 < aestetix> wow
23:33 < aestetix> http://myvr.com/
23:33 < aestetix> it's a company that helps you rent out your vacation home
23:33 < aestetix> who the hell is rich enough to have a vacation home?
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23:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix: thats not as much a 'rich' thing as you'd think
23:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> a lot of countries people have 'summer homes' and live in apartments in the city the rest of the year... russia in particular is very heavy of that
23:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> parts of the US have that heavy too
23:38 < aestetix> you mean parts with huge wealth disparities?
23:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> not really
23:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats a middle class type of thing to do
23:39 < aestetix> And given that we don't have a middle class anymore..
23:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> which is why people who still have the houses are trying to rent them out, to make money
23:39 <@SuMo_D> its a big thing in South Carolina
23:39 <@SuMo_D> most people have a family summer beach house
23:40 <@SuMo_D> that's split between multiple generations/family that everyone flocks to at least once during the summer
23:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> believe me... i'm all for raging against disparity, but this isn't a case of it
23:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> now... if they own 'summer homes' all over the country
23:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> then sure
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23:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> but a single family, having a 'summer home' isn't unusual at all
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