--- Log opened Tue Aug 05 00:00:09 2014 00:04 < aestetix_> libgen.org 00:08 <@Dagmar> Sooo... garrisons in WoW have hte option of having a Stable now 00:08 <@Dagmar> Blizz did something very cute. 00:09 <@Dagmar> Your mounts will randomly appear at the stable and wander 'round a bit. 00:09 <@Dagmar> It was truly heartwarming to see my mechgineer's chopper park in front of the water trough and then go snuggle down for a nap in a pile of hay 00:09 <@Dagmar> This is why I like beta 00:09 <@Dagmar> :D 00:10 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 00:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 00:10 < aestetix_> ok 00:10 < aestetix_> http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2clyjm/what_company_can_go_fuck_itself/ 00:10 < aestetix_> who can guess waht company is at the top of this list 00:10 < RangerZ> I was going to say comcast 00:10 < RangerZ> but thats a good choice too 00:10 < aestetix_> nope 00:10 < aestetix_> textbook companies :) 00:14 < RangerZ> yeah 00:15 < RangerZ> I miss buying my 20$ math books 00:15 < RangerZ> that my profs wrote themselves, and you bought it printed by the school printing in a 3 ring binder 00:15 < RangerZ> lol 00:40 < RangerZ> wilpig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=b7zAMY0v5ZY#t=752 you might want to get Tumblr to get one of these 00:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: 45Drives at the Geek House - Storinator and... Beerinator? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 00:41 < RangerZ> Dagmar: you might need it soon too, lol 01:18 < aestetix_> http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/country/korea-north.html 01:33 -!- PandorasBox [pb@unaffiliated/pandorasbox] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:34 -!- PandorasBox [pb@fedora-is.the-ghetto.com] has joined #se2600 01:34 -!- PandorasBox [pb@fedora-is.the-ghetto.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:34 -!- PandorasBox [pb@unaffiliated/pandorasbox] has joined #se2600 02:07 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 02:11 < RangerZ> https://twitter.com/BillWeirCNN/status/494670062092296192 that is fucking balls... 02:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / BillWeirCNN: Weather is not climate, you ... (at twitter.com) 02:11 < RangerZ> He didn't delete the tweet, after 'apologizing' for it 02:11 < RangerZ> lol 03:02 < aestetix_> do sysadmins ever ssh into systems anymore 03:02 < aestetix_> or is it all just via puppet/chef? 03:03 < RangerZ> I'm going to guess that most still do 03:03 < RangerZ> puppet/chef isn't adopted as widely as you might think 03:03 < aestetix_> just in the bay? 03:03 * RangerZ nods 03:03 < aestetix_> and it's probably a lot easier to work with it if you start with it from scratch 03:03 < aestetix_> rather than having to convert living systems over to it 03:04 < RangerZ> its really nice for setting up images, etc, and for regular sys admin auditing 03:04 < RangerZ> but for figuring out 'wtf is going on' it can't cover all possible commands, etc 03:04 < aestetix_> yep 03:05 < aestetix_> the old "why is the system down? let's ask chef!" 03:06 < RangerZ> that and the fact that you'd have to have pre-cog abilities to know all the possible issues your system 'could' be facing 03:07 < RangerZ> to pre-make puppet scripts 03:07 < aestetix_> hah 03:08 < aestetix_> and the number of possible issues doubles with every new line of code 03:11 < RangerZ> 'ehh', I think thats a popular saying, but not nearly as accurate as it sounds, but yeah, more complex systems have ever increasing potential issues 03:23 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:52 < aestetix_> http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/03/hello-world-2/ 03:52 < aestetix_> why would someone get funding for that 07:23 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:24 * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 07:46 <@wilpig> http://wwwapps.ups.com/WebTracking/track?track=yes&trackNums=1ZX799470319304620&loc=en_us 07:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: UPS: Tracking Information (at wwwapps.ups.com) 07:46 <@Dolemite> Those your hard drives? 07:46 <@wilpig> yup 09:09 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@unaffiliated/am1n0] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:13 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/h25ta8geahq4hnw/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-05%20at%209.12.55%20AM.png 09:13 <@wilpig> and microsoft wonders why they are losing marketshare hand over fist 09:14 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @sasquatc4, @eryc 09:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @sasquatc4, @eryc 09:19 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@66.55.13.134] has joined #se2600 09:19 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@66.55.13.134] has quit [Changing host] 09:19 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 09:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 09:29 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Because they are using large inodes with your large disk? 09:29 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has joined #se2600 09:34 <@wilpig> large clusters and IE is retareded about using some sane form of cache management 09:34 <@wilpig> I don't even use IE and some process in windows consumed that much in cache space 09:34 <@wilpig> I've used it maybe half a dozen times to test shit with opendcim 09:38 -!- ignotus-sdf [~ignotus@66.223.57.24] has joined #se2600 09:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ignotus-sdf] by ChanServ 09:39 <@ignotus-sdf> Holy crap. I actually made it back. This move sucked, and we still have no internet at home. 09:40 <@ignotus-sdf> My wife and I sincerely send our apologies to brimstone, we tried to make it to the meeting, but I have a cracked front windshield now from moving a couch on a Yaris. 09:40 <@Dagmar> Pfft. I check my email and a certain DBA starts hitting me up over IM wanting to know if I have time "to help with a request" 09:41 <@Dagmar> I check the ticketing system--no requests there. 09:41 <@Dagmar> Bitch 09:41 <@wilpig> ignotus-sdf: couch? haven't you ever been told... "fuck yo couch!" 09:41 <@ignotus-sdf> I have one of those that hits me up every morning. I know it something I don't want to work with the second he PMs me. 09:42 <@ignotus-sdf> lol. we also moved a king sized mattress on that thing. made the car look like it had a toupee. 09:42 <@Dagmar> I'm getting tired of these people hitting me up for "little problems" because they can't be bothered to click on some forms 09:42 <@wilpig> the systems guys here see a message from me and they assume it's something weird, hoepfully not porn 10:03 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to cut someone from netsec 10:03 <@Dagmar> ...and I mean with a knife 10:04 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:07 -!- Neoteric [~timball@coronal-mass-ejection.sunlightfoundation.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:08 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING 10:09 * shapr hops 10:11 * Dagmar sprinkles caltrops around 10:13 -!- timball [~timball@coronal-mass-ejection.sunlightfoundation.com] has joined #se2600 10:16 <@wilpig> bloodhound gang did a cover of "fire water burn"? 10:19 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has joined #se2600 10:27 <@ignotus-sdf> wilpig: I hadn't been told that, but I'm sure I said it at least 3 times during that adventure. 10:28 <@wilpig> way back many a moon when I was still playing wow and wow was still vanilla... 10:29 <@wilpig> the guild I was with was working on molten core or something at the time and one of the rogues had to go afk to "move a couch" from that day it was always declared "fuck yo couch" 10:29 <@wilpig> tis a boring story, but it's mine 10:30 <@ignotus-sdf> :) I like topicality. 10:36 <@Dagmar> Seriously fuck those guys 10:36 <@Dagmar> I'm actually going to have to run tcpdump to show that an nfs mount isn't working tomorrow 10:39 <@wilpig> while i'm bitching. ringabel's a cunt. fucker wants to cast heal first thing every fight but when you add him casting fairy's gift to someone flip a coin as to whether or not he'll do it before it's actually needed 10:51 <@Dagmar> Maybe equip him with some lead weights to slow him down 10:52 <@wilpig> their fighting order is too damn random 11:35 -!- RangerZ|Laptop [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> evening lady(s) and gentlman(men?, probably more people in here would take that as an insult than compliment -_- ) 11:37 < RangerZ|Laptop> go into work for 1hr... then two transformers blow, and the building only starts getting in 1 phase... not 3 11:38 < RangerZ|Laptop> so went home... lol, now back to bed for a nap, lol 11:45 <@wilpig> nice 11:45 <@wilpig> how'd you rig that? 11:46 <@wilpig> can you repeat it for the rest of the week? 11:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol, likely the guess is right now, that the blasting on 16th caused it 11:47 <@critch> blasting on 16th? 11:50 <@critch> ave or streat? 11:50 <@critch> err street 11:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> music row 11:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> ave i think 11:52 <@critch> yeah, numbers west of the river are ave 12:00 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 12:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:10 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has quit [Changing host] 12:10 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@unaffiliated/am1n0] has joined #se2600 12:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o am1n0] by ChanServ 12:12 <@brimstone> ignotus-sdf: ... "on a yarus" !? 12:20 <@ignotus-sdf> Yup. You read that right. The tiny one with a hatchback. 12:22 <@ignotus-sdf> I also finally got the cell phone bags yesterday. 12:22 <@brimstone> nice 12:22 <@ignotus-sdf> I have 5. 12:22 <@ignotus-sdf> And we WILL be there next month. My wife was pretty upset that we missed it. 12:23 <@ignotus-sdf> I think the hardest part was we had no way to warn you what was up. I still won't have internet at home until tomorrow. 12:24 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 12:25 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 12:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:31 <@wilpig> doh! 12:31 <@wilpig> Dagmar: I used one of those dark nebula attacks that came in via streetpass and destroyed everyone 12:32 <@wilpig> it also did 50k to a dragon 12:32 <@shapr> klixa: OH HAI 12:33 * wilpig hits shapr on the nose with a rolled up news paper 12:33 <@shapr> waat? 12:33 <@shapr> u jelly? 12:33 <@shapr> ME PEANUT BUTTER 12:33 <@klixa> hey shapr 12:33 * shapr hops cheerfully 12:33 <@klixa> hey wilpig 12:34 <@shapr> My workplace is funding my adafruit habit. I like this. 12:34 <@shapr> "Shae, buy us some things that do this." "Ok, Arduinos and Raspberry Pis for everyone!" 12:34 <@klixa> thats awesome 12:47 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 13:31 -!- CRasH180 [~CRasH180@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:33 -!- ignotus-sdf [~ignotus@66.223.57.24] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50 <@wilpig> Dagmar, RangerZ|Laptop: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zf0q8s2wslau1gf/2014-08-05%2013.50.00.jpg 13:51 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gggag89laiw3ss7/2014-08-05%2013.50.04.jpg 13:57 <@Dagmar> Congrats 14:01 <@wilpig> inching ever closer to the end 14:06 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@unaffiliated/am1n0] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:06 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has joined #se2600 14:33 <@critch> shapr: you should try to get Beaglebone Blacks. Much better than Pis 14:34 <@shapr> critch: I don't know enough about the PRUs to be sure of that 14:34 <@critch> You don't have to to still make use of those pins 14:34 <@critch> Plus higher clock speed, and flash on board 14:35 <@shapr> I'm using the Arduinos for timing-sensitive protocols 14:35 <@shapr> Yeah, the BBB is a better option, I just don't have enough experience with it yet. 14:35 <@critch> How time sensitive? 14:35 <@shapr> Is there an OSS tool that produces PRU code? 14:36 <@critch> There is. If you are on G+, look up Drew Fustini. He has links to some talks that cover the PRU 14:36 <@shapr> hm, those do look good 14:37 <@shapr> Another timing sensitive part of this is that it needs to be working really soon, and I already know Arduino and Pi :-) 14:37 <@critch> If you know Pi, you know BBB. They are both linux 14:38 <@critch> Not to mention, if it is work related, the whole of BBB is OSS, so if you make a product out of it, you can get your own boards produced. 14:38 <@critch> Part of their faq on commercial use points out that they may change designs at any time, if you need it a certain way, make them yourself with the files proviced. 14:41 <@critch> shapr: http://hackaday.com/2014/06/22/an-introduction-to-the-beaglebone-pru/ 14:42 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 14:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 14:42 <@shapr> critch: Yeah, I'm reading it... still a bit beyond my capabilities though. 14:43 <@critch> well beyond my abilities, but this shows the muscle available, http://hackaday.com/2014/02/05/the-30th-anniversary-macintosh/ 14:43 <@shapr> mostly I don't want to write assembly, or even much C 14:44 <@critch> Granted the most I do is via i2c devices, but I was having no problem doing i2c GPIO expander to SPI comms to communicate with thermocouple readers all from node on the BBB 14:47 <@shapr> Yeah, I'm mostly talking to a bunch of sensors via i2c, and firing relays from a few other pins. 14:48 <@shapr> Thing is, this system also needs to continue working if Linux crashes, so the Arduinos are the backup. 14:48 <@critch> Then what is your timing issue? i2c is i2c especially when you hand it off to hardware. 14:48 <@critch> ahh, understand the continue running 14:49 <@shapr> I'll probably try to use the BBB in the next version, would be cheaper. 14:49 <@shapr> On the other hand, these Freakduinos have a 900MHz 802.15.4 radio built-in... hmm 14:49 <@shapr> I dunno, I'll look into the tradeoff. 14:49 <@shapr> critch: got any projects online? 14:50 <@critch> No, only one I have done much with is my stick burning BBQ controller 14:50 <@shapr> I could just get a real xbee widget and stick it onto the BBB 14:50 <@shapr> huh, that sounds nifty :-) 14:50 <@critch> Thats what I did. I have 3 of the 2.4ghz xbees 14:51 <@shapr> they're kind of a pain though, I have a series 1 xbee widget. 14:51 <@shapr> The freakduinos are much friendlier. 14:51 <@critch> I think mine are series 2 14:51 <@shapr> hopefully :-) 14:51 <@critch> Have to flash them to change from controller to node 14:52 <@shapr> The Freakduinos are just an Arduino with a 900MHz 802.15.4 radio, so I get to do whatever. 14:52 <@shapr> also, 1000+ feet of range is nice 14:52 <@critch> Yeah, don't trust that number 14:52 <@critch> Remember the old 900mhz cordless phones? 14:53 <@shapr> no, I mean that's the range I *get* 14:53 <@shapr> Even with RF blocking walls in the way 14:54 <@shapr> That's also using the QPSK encoding instead of the simpler BPSK encoding. 14:54 <@critch> I know 900mhz propogates better I just didn't expect that kind of range 14:54 <@critch> well at the power they are using. 14:54 <@shapr> These Freakduinos with the built-in amplifier and battery pack are $55, so not much more than an XBee widget 14:55 <@shapr> and has dual joule-thief circuits on the board, so runs a very long time on 2xAA: http://www.freaklabsstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=42&products_id=213 14:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Freakduino 900 MHz Long Range+ Bottom Mounted Battery Case Set [FREAKDUINO-900LR-BATTERY-SET] - $54.00 : FreakLabs Store, Open Source Wireless Sensor Networks (at www.freaklabsstore.com) 14:58 <@shapr> critch: I had one inside my mother's older house, which has magical walls that are great at blocking cellphone/wifi/etc, and walked just over a thousand feet down the block at which point I was only getting about half the packets. 15:00 <@shapr> critch: Is your bbq project online? 15:01 <@critch> No, it originally was going to be turned into a commercial project. I was since made aware of a patent already filed on what we where doing. 15:01 <@shapr> ah, too bad 15:01 <@critch> Recently granted as well 15:01 <@shapr> at least you can document it now :-) 15:01 <@wilpig> more proof that the patent system is mostly garbage 15:01 <@critch> Trying to get partner in the project to use the nuclear option and publish it all OSS 15:01 <@shapr> good idea 15:02 <@shapr> I can point you to my G+ profile, but I realize I haven't posted many projects in the past month or two :-( 15:03 <@critch> The last revision I was working on was to move it into Android, so when we are at competition cookoffs, we could use something like the Radxa Rock and watch HBO Go or similar while cooking from the same computer. 15:03 <@shapr> ha! That's great :-) 15:04 <@shapr> I still don't get the whole grillmaster culture in the southeast, even though I'm related to people who put amazing amounts of thought and energy into grilling. 15:04 <@critch> Only hinderance we ran into with BBB was getting a WiFi signal out of the project that could compete in his yard with the neighbors. Ended up wiring it to an AP to use, but then it didn't provide us internet 15:04 <@shapr> 900MHz :-P 15:05 <@shapr> and you get to sniff power meters :-P 15:05 <@critch> shapr: basically it is a reason to enjoy sitting up "cooking" while you drink and BS. The competitions are fun because you get to know the other people, and you sample each others food. 15:06 < oddball> shapr: What's not to get? It's guys tinkering with shit. Same with hot rodders, hackers, whatever. 15:06 <@wilpig> I think i've lost more velcro down the side of this routing chassis then we have in the bin 15:06 <@critch> And in our case, it is computers and wetal fabrication, and eating good food. 15:07 <@critch> how the hell did I type a w in place of a m 15:07 <@critch> I am not Checkov 15:08 <@wilpig> critch: after all these years you've slipped up in your online persona and outted yourself 15:10 <@critch> wilpig: shame you weren't in town for hypericon to see the amount of pig we cooked 15:10 <@wilpig> indeed 15:10 <@critch> Friday we cooked 8 butts, and we used a new tool for shredding it all with a drill. 15:11 <@wilpig> now that sounds like a sight to se 15:11 <@wilpig> see 15:11 <@critch> Jon cooked Saturday, 4 butts, 5 chubs, 3 ribs, a loin, and 4 chickens 15:12 <@Dickie> Hi 15:12 <@Dickie> oh 15:14 <@wilpig> you can't say chub, it summons dickie 15:18 <@shapr> ha 15:19 <@critch> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3pICfuXNC4jYmlGZUJLU3I0YTA/edit?usp=sharing 15:19 <@GateKeeper> Title: IMG_20140614_161226.jpg - Google Drive (at drive.google.com) 15:19 <@shapr> wow, meaty! 15:20 <@critch> That is the grill we control via a BBB and some javascript. 15:20 <@shapr> cool, got pix of the control system? or is it still under wraps? 15:20 * shapr envisions a beef wrap, mmm 15:21 <@critch> I don't have any of the current one we have. It was an interim step, the control is all on perfboard. 15:22 <@critch> The intention was to move the control stuff into simple arduinos using xbees to comunicate back to the BBB, or Rock as a final setup. Then the javascript was going to get upgraded to allow controlling of more than one grill at a time. 15:23 * shapr looks up the Radxa Rock 15:23 <@shapr> ooh, quad core ARM with 2GB of ram?! 15:24 <@critch> Oh hell yeah and 8 gig flash dual booting android and linux. 15:24 <@critch> Supposedly unbrickable 15:24 <@shapr> and very affordable at $100 15:24 <@shapr> wow, built-in LVDS interface?! 15:24 <@critch> and wifi and bluetooth 15:25 <@shapr> that's the best ARM system I've seen yet (except for my not-yet-shipped novena) 15:25 <@wilpig> that's the kind of excitement I expect to hear just before "and then she got naked!" 15:31 <@opticron> shapr, ifc6410 15:33 <@critch> Oh, and the Rock has a built in mic, so google now will do voice commands and searching when in android. 15:33 <@opticron> interesting 15:34 <@critch> my neighbor built a rolling stand with a surround receiver and a mount for a monitor. He uses it and Torque to diagnose cars in the garage and play music for parties. 15:35 <@opticron> only $80... 15:35 <@critch> opticron: only issue I see with the ifc6410 is a lack of external antenna, and a price that is promotional. 15:37 <@opticron> critch, the ifc6412 is coming out soon and it's $99 15:37 <@opticron> slightly upgraded specs, iirc 15:37 <@opticron> but the radxa beats it on specs 15:38 <@opticron> for my purposes anyway 15:38 <@opticron> 100MHz slower cpu 15:38 <@opticron> what CPU is in it? 15:38 <@opticron> exynos? 15:38 <@critch> Remember when speaking of ARM CPUs, speed isn't everything. 15:39 <@critch> rk3188 15:39 <@opticron> ugh...rockchip 15:39 <@critch> right, that is why I mentioned speed isn't everything 15:40 <@critch> You are comparing a speed diff of 100mhz from A9 to A15 on those 2 boards 15:42 <@opticron> yeah, I couldn't find the CPU details 15:42 <@critch> https://www.miniand.com/products/Radxa%20Rock%20Dev%20Board 15:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Miniand - Product - Radxa Rock Dev Board (at www.miniand.com) 15:43 <@critch> Oh, and the barel connector for power on the rock is susceptible to loss of power if the plug is bumped. 15:43 <@opticron> I really want a 4GB ram version of the IFC board to use as a laptop core 15:43 <@opticron> but finding a dev board with a 32bit arm chip with 4GB ram is damn hard 15:44 <@critch> Well, this fall is suppoesed to be the time for 64bit ARM chips 15:44 <@opticron> yep 15:44 <@opticron> that's what I'll end up using for the laptop 15:44 <@shapr> building your own? 15:44 <@opticron> probably try to go with a macbookpro 13.3" retina screen 15:44 <@opticron> shapr, I'd like to 15:45 <@opticron> I'm interested in the A1100 from AMD 15:45 <@shapr> rock has an LVDS connector 15:45 <@opticron> but I have yet to see a devboard for it 15:45 <@opticron> shapr, so does the IFC board 15:45 <@shapr> ah 15:45 <@opticron> besides, that particular display is eDP 15:46 <@opticron> I'd need a mezzanine converter board anyway 15:48 < aestetix_> man 15:48 < aestetix_> I think hackers and lawyers speak totally different languages 15:49 < aestetix_> and get pissed off at each other really quickly 15:49 < aestetix_> no wonder the political climate has gotten so bad 15:51 -!- twelton [~twelton@174.47.49.242] has joined #se2600 15:52 -!- twelton [~twelton@174.47.49.242] has left #se2600 [] 16:02 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has quit [Changing host] 16:02 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@unaffiliated/am1n0] has joined #se2600 16:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o am1n0] by ChanServ 16:12 < aestetix_> www.cnn.com/2014/08/05/politics/u-s-new-leaker/index.html 16:27 <@wilpig> darwin award winner right here. http://geekologie.com/2014/08/man-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-him.php 16:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Man Dies After Accidentally Shooting Himself Trying To Take A Gun To The Head Selfie | Geekologie (at geekologie.com) 16:35 <@shapr> http://superuser.com/questions/792607/why-does-windows-think-that-my-wireless-keyboard-is-a-toaster 16:35 <@GateKeeper> Title: device manager - Why does Windows think that my wireless keyboard is a toaster? - Super User (at superuser.com) 16:39 <@critch> wilpig: that is an occasion of stupid hurting. 16:40 < aestetix_> this doesn't seem like an NSA document 17:01 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:01 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:12 <@wilpig> I need to go out and find some longer hard drive screws 18:14 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnwioba2pxg7ecg/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-05%20at%206.14.25%20PM.png 18:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> wilpig: show us that command from tublr's storage, lol 18:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/08/05/watch-commander/ the article with documents after snowden 19:05 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: indeed 19:05 < aestetix_> I'm glad we're finally getting to see this 19:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> ehh 19:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> doesn't matter 19:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> I've been getting really fucking tired of shit lately, and I'm starting to agree that nothing important fundamentally will change until we pass an amendment to get money out of politics, and make corps. not 'people' 19:13 < aestetix_> well 19:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> that in and of itself won't solve everything, b/c you'll have revolving door issues 19:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> but one step at atime, lol 19:13 < aestetix_> fair enough 19:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I think it would solve a LOT of problems 19:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> that and having independent redistricting 19:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> having lived in a district that was split in half to jerrymander it... I'm well aware of how it works, etc 19:17 < aestetix_> http://i.imgur.com/2L3LZh6.png RangerZ|Laptop you'll like this 19:18 < aestetix_> a list of all executive orders 19:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: you're going to love the new google story 19:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> they are reporting child porn to authorities 19:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> but... slippery slope , lol 19:22 < aestetix_> based on gmail, right? 19:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah 19:22 < aestetix_> which means they are in fact reading email 19:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> well they have always said they are 19:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> via robot, but still 19:23 < aestetix_> so the government can't read email, but a private company can :) 19:24 < aestetix_> it brings the whole data ownership question back 19:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> not really 19:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> there has always been that divide 19:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> b/c google can't put me in jail 19:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> well... until they employee me directly 19:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> speaking of.... apparently there are conspiracy theories... that we're getting paid by Google to make the moocs based off of Android 19:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 19:25 < aestetix_> actually 19:25 < aestetix_> they can send data to experian that will ruin your credit 19:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> we were like ... no... not yet... but we'll gladly take google's money ;) 19:25 < aestetix_> that's just as bad 19:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> actually... if you wanna let google HQ know... they can get in touch with me here, or linkedin, or gmail, or g+ or...any fucking way they want.. if they wanna bribe me, lol 19:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh...wow... thats some BS... a hotel charging you extra money if you write a bad review, b/c they put it in the rental agreement fine print... 19:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats fucking sleezy 19:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL... first vibrator was steam-powered 19:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> well non-hand cranked ones 19:45 <@Dagmar> RangerZ|Laptop: I doubt it will hold up in court 19:45 <@Dagmar> For one, that would be considered an "exceptional" condition, and would need to be _explicitly_ disclosed 19:46 <@Dagmar> For the other, it would appear to conflict with the 1st Amendment, so it could easily be construed as 'unconcionable'. 19:46 <@Dagmar> Like, you can't sign away your right to not be murdered. 19:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: settle down... stop dreaming about that being legal 19:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 19:46 <@Dagmar> ...and you cannot sign a contract making you chattel, because it's illegal 19:47 < RangerZ|Laptop> but you can sign away your right to say things, NDA 19:48 <@Dagmar> An NDA covers explicit information which is considered a "secret" 19:48 <@Dagmar> ...and they're pretty picky about whether or not you were informed you were signing an NDA when you sign one. 19:49 <@Dagmar> That whole thing kinda makes me want to go give that hotel a bad rating and ramble on about dead hookers in the ice machine 19:49 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, i know you're right, but still, its fucking stupid 19:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> the dead hookers started smelling after the power went out in the middle of July all mid day 19:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/08/04/volokh-conspiracy-marketing-genius-award-goes-to-the-union-street-guest-house-hudson-new-york/ 19:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Volokh Conspiracy Marketing Genius Award goes to the Union Street Guest House hotel (Hudson, New York) - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) 19:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> I don't think its actually viral marketing 19:53 <@Dagmar> I think it's epic stupidity that's bound to be costing them a lot more than $500 19:55 < aestetix_> you know 19:55 < aestetix_> you should watch Ellsberg's HOPE X keynote 19:55 < aestetix_> he covers the legality of the secrecy oath 19:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah 19:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> anyone who visits the website or watches the videos from it will be put on TIDE 20:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 20:04 * oddball tries some of the peach pie he just made. Yep... I think this will also go well at PN. 20:05 < oddball> I know folks also make cherry pie, but the ones I've tasted come out like cough syrup. 20:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> oddball: is PN still happening? 20:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> I tried looking online to see 20:06 < oddball> In theory it is. 20:07 <@klixa> hahaha 20:07 <@klixa> i have never had peach pie... 20:07 < oddball> Of course, I don't expect this batch to make it that long, what with Dragoncon and Outsidecon coming up. 20:08 < oddball> klixa: Neither had I and it intrigued me. 20:08 <@klixa> i make peacj cobbler tho 20:08 <@klixa> peach* 20:08 <@klixa> i imagine its verry similar to that (i love peach cobbler) 20:08 < oddball> a peach cobbler in liquid form? 20:08 <@klixa> ? 20:08 <@klixa> why would it be liquid 20:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> pie is liquid? 20:09 < oddball> because of all the alcohol. 20:09 <@klixa> what? 20:09 < oddball> I don't bake. 20:09 <@klixa> are you sure you are eating pie oddball ? 20:09 < oddball> the pie that I speak of is a drink. 20:09 <@klixa> lol 20:09 <@klixa> WHAT 20:09 <@klixa> you are DRINKING a pie 20:09 <@klixa> ? 20:10 < oddball> find me at PN and I will introduce you to this wonderful thing. 20:10 <@klixa> ok, you must be having some alcohlic beverage named peach pie 20:10 <@klixa> that has NOTHING to do wiht pie 20:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 20:10 <@oddball> The idea is that the apple pie and peach pie taste like said pies... but are ~40proof. 20:12 <@oddball> I'm kind of suprised that we've talked as long as we have and you don't know that when I refer to pie, chances are I'm refering to the "moonshine" drink, 20:12 <@klixa> well, from now on i know 20:13 <@oddball> :) 20:14 <@klixa> chamborg could make an interesting raspberry pi 20:14 <@klixa> chambord rather, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambord_(liqueur) 20:16 <@oddball> Hmmm... this peach pie is the first pie that I've made using a flavored liquor. The alcohol in my apple pie is just straight up PGA. 20:17 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: you should aim to do a raspberry flavored one, for maximum confusion when referring to Raspberry Pi 20:17 <@oddball> hehe... there is that. 20:18 <@oddball> I think the trick would be finding the rasberry juice. 20:19 <@oddball> I think I might play with the white sugar/brown sugar ratio with this, but turned out well for first attempt. 20:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> oddball: good news, the website will be up June 1st... I mean July 1st... I mean july 4th... I mean aug 1st... I mean this monday.... 20:22 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: you stole my idea 20:22 <@klixa> [19:14:03] @klixa: chamborg could make an interesting raspberry pi 20:22 <@klixa> [19:14:20] @klixa: chambord rather, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chambord_(liqueur) 20:22 <@oddball> RangerZ|Laptop: yay! 20:22 <@klixa> ^^^^^ 20:24 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: Chambord is rather top shelf (expensive), isn't it? 20:24 <@Bahhumbug> I cry bullshit with regards to the web site. 20:24 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: no, i think its about the same as baileys 20:24 * Bahhumbug goes back to lurkin 20:24 * Bahhumbug goes back to lurking 20:25 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ|Laptop: yeah, if it's just a 2D barcode holding it up, I say fuck the barcode, get the site live 20:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> same 20:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> but apparently he said that was 'working' 20:26 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: online 750ml is $30 20:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> and I see no reason to have registration working the 'exact' same minute that the webpage/CFP goes live 20:26 <@klixa> its been a few years since i last had any; if you take baileys+chambnord+ice, and stir it, it become intersting...its texture is almost like ice cream 20:27 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: Bailey's also tends to be top shelf 20:27 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i was in a geocery store in Pacific Palisades, and they had $1000 bottles of liquor 20:27 <@Corydon76-home> I think oddball would rather find cheap raspberry nectar and add PGA 20:27 <@klixa> $30 is rather cheap 20:27 <@oddball> RangerZ|Laptop: Yeah... I loved the response to "why can't we go ahead and throw the rest of the page up?" (answer: "'cause I don't wanna!") 20:28 <@Corydon76-home> Answer: "Because I'm a goddamn perfectionist" 20:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> I feel bad saying this, but I don't expect him to be re-elected at this rate 20:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> problem is... who will take over 20:28 <@oddball> klixa: See... a little over a gallon of apple pie costs roughly $30. 20:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 20:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> klixa: plus he doesn't have a job right now 20:29 <@klixa> oddball: then swap out the pech flavor for plain raspberry syrup 20:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> so cheap > top shelf 20:29 <@oddball> Also, this way I can be fairly liberal in sharing it. 20:29 <@klixa> i drink maybe once a year... 20:30 <@Corydon76-home> https://www.fineentertaining.com/shop/Fat_Tuesday_Drink_Mix_Raspberry_32OZ_Sold_Each/653294 20:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: Fat Tuesday Drink Mix Raspberry 32OZ Sold Each #FTRASP032-S - FineEntertaining.com (at www.fineentertaining.com) 20:30 <@Corydon76-home> If you want that, don't buy it. I can get it for employee price 20:31 <@oddball> I'll keep that in mind. 20:31 <@klixa> i imgien peach woudl be way better 20:32 <@klixa> cause raspberry is a heavy flavor and alcohol is heavy 20:32 <@klixa> peach is light 20:32 <@oddball> If done right for these things, alcohol is very much not a heavy flavor. 20:33 <@oddball> I know I've done it right when people go "it's how much proof?! Are you sure?" after having a sip. 20:33 <@Corydon76-home> Same thing for these: https://www.fineentertaining.com/shop/Sno-Cone_Syrup_1_Gallon/10000582 20:33 <@GateKeeper> 'Title: Sno Cone Syrup + Shaved Ice Flavors | 1 Gallon \r - FineEntertaining.com (at www.fineentertaining.com)' 20:34 <@oddball> See... I try to stay with the natural stuff. 20:36 <@wilpig> hippie 20:36 <@Corydon76-home> Fair enough 20:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=20616366&cp=2255956.2273442.2255969.3130074.2648589&parentPage=family wilpig 20:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> 50$ ball pit 20:37 <@klixa> oddball: ok, well then do this. raspberries+honey+blender 20:38 <@oddball> hmmm.... 20:38 <@klixa> this week, i found blueberries for 99cents a container...i bought 6 20:38 <@klixa> and put them in freezer 20:38 <@klixa> blueberry smoothies forever 20:38 < aestetix_> damn how do cats sleep so much 20:38 <@klixa> oh and then boil it after you blend it to make it syrupy 20:39 < aestetix_> one of my cats sleeps like 20 hours a day 20:39 <@klixa> then strain out the raspberry debris 20:39 <@oddball> aestetix_: yep, they tend to be awake about 6 hours a day. 20:39 <@klixa> humans are supposed to sleep a lot too... but only the mexicans are proper humans..siestas 20:39 < aestetix_> haha 20:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> klixa: yes/no, look into sleep patterns of different regions, 20:40 < aestetix_> thanks professor RangerZ|Laptop 20:40 <@klixa> RangerZ|Laptop: or why dont you just tell me 20:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> east asians/african/ eruasian, and american natives all have different sleep patterns, b/c of the crops or foods they grow 20:41 < aestetix_> wait I wonder if professor RangerZ|Laptop is dr. penis 20:41 <@klixa> RangerZ|Laptop: so how does that work 20:41 <@klixa> do certain foods alter sleep patterns? or is it based on when one needs to be awak eto tend to them 20:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> when you have to take care of them 20:41 <@klixa> also, why do some peple have circadian rhythm sleeping disorders...were they the night wathment of the crops? 20:41 <@klixa> watchmen* 20:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> circadian rhythm 'disorders' are IMHO a lot like adhd or autism-spectrum 'disorders' 20:42 <@klixa> that tells me nothing 20:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> just variations, that others don't understand 20:42 <@klixa> ok 20:43 <@klixa> i have a circadian rhythm sleep disorder 20:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> the biggest factor if your child will have an autism-spectrum diagnosis is the parents' IQs 20:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> smart people have a silly higher chance of having autistic children 20:44 <@klixa> id have to see the studies on that 20:44 <@klixa> maybe high iq people ar emore likeluy to get their "weird" child tested 20:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.livestrong.com/article/1006821-autism-parents-high-iq/ 20:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Autism and Parents Who Have a High IQ | LIVESTRONG.COM (at www.livestrong.com) 20:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> but lets be honest, either way the area around aestetix_ has the highest autism rates in the country 20:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 20:45 <@klixa> "possible connection" 20:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah, thats was just googling offhand 20:46 < RangerZ|Laptop> i don't have it bookmarked, lol 20:46 <@klixa> based entirely anecdotally...i can see how SMART autistic children ar emore likely to be seen as autsitic rather than retarded 20:46 <@klixa> cause if you take an austic person, and make them stupid...really they are just gonna seem retarded 20:47 <@klixa> its only super odd, when someone acts reatrded but is actually smart 20:47 <@klixa> i think its a perception thin 20:47 <@klixa> thing* 20:47 <@klixa> autism is not intelligence is not autism 20:51 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: this is true 20:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> personally I think autism is just an evolutionary stepping stone, asperger(sp?) syndrome is one of the most beneficial traits to have in certain fields (such as zuckerberg) 20:53 <@klixa> i think its just a personality type 20:53 <@klixa> i dont think its any kinda of evolutionary anything 20:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> no. I think crazy pants is a personality thing, I wouldn't insult autistics by saying they have the same problems as her 20:54 <@klixa> i think mt father was autistic...he only ever talked about guitar pickups 20:54 <@klixa> he was freaking obsessed with them 20:54 <@klixa> RangerZ|Laptop: hes borderline personality disorder+ lush 20:54 <@klixa> shes* 20:54 <@klixa> shes mentally ill 20:54 <@klixa> shes beyond personlity 20:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> no... you should come to the nashville 2600 meetings 20:54 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: it's also the highest concentration of assholes and douchebags 20:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> the honorable state of Silcon Valley 20:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL 20:55 < aestetix_> god 20:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> or would it be a commonwealth? hehe 20:55 <@klixa> RangerZ|Laptop: some autistic people REALLY suck 20:55 <@klixa> actually most suck 20:55 <@klixa> most aspies/autistic people are total douchbags 20:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> i'd rather deal with them than crazy pants 20:56 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, and they tend to be creepy while sucking, too 20:56 <@klixa> yes, creepy suckers! 20:56 <@klixa> RangerZ|Laptop: depends... she is pretty bad... i think what makes it more ominous...is i have seen her be normal for long stretches of time...normal crazypants is an ok person 20:56 <@klixa> but...normal crazypants doesnt stay around long 20:57 <@Corydon76-home> This one guy kept looking up at me the entire time he was sucking me... like I'm supposed to do something... 20:57 <@klixa> o.O 20:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> actually thats suppose to be sexy 20:57 < RangerZ|Laptop> girls are told to make eye contact on purpose 20:58 <@klixa> yu dont STARE tho 20:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> me? no, I don't ;) 20:58 <@Corydon76-home> Staring might be the problem 20:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> I generally can't see the girls face over her chest anyways, lol 20:58 <@klixa> is she doing it upside down? 20:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> I meant when I'm going down on her 20:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol 20:59 <@klixa> oh 20:59 <@klixa> lol 20:59 <@Corydon76-home> I'm like, I don't want to insult this guy, because his teeth are a fraction of an inch from my dick... but it was the creepiest blowjob ever. 20:59 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: thats when you just lean your head back 20:59 <@klixa> and close your eyes 20:59 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: No good. I can feel his eyes looking up at me. 21:00 <@klixa> well...pick your people better then 21:01 <@Dagmar> *Harsh* https://twitter.com/netflix/status/496797600276701184 21:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / netflix: They’re the only neckbeards ... (at twitter.com) 21:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> ouch 21:03 <@klixa> lol 21:07 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: was the blowjob good otherwise? 21:07 < aestetix_> Dagmar: can you post the whole text of that tweet? 21:07 < aestetix_> I blocked twitter from my hosts file so I don't get as mad :p 21:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> They’re the only neckbeards that aren’t on Reddit. American Experience: The Amish: Shunned is 21:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> a movie on netflix 21:08 < aestetix_> ouch 21:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> so I was on a confrence call yesterday, and I piped up and asked "why does it matter if the app we make is innovative or not, its for education it doesn't have to be fancy" 21:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> and the one person said "well I like to aim higher than just mocking something like facebook app", and I was like... "well obviously you have no idea of how high an art form me and my friends have taken mockery" 21:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> shut him up, lol 21:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I read manga/watch anime, where unlike american shows/etc they purposely use real brand names, but they fudge the name enough to not be 'exactly' the same, so therefore not have to deal with trademark, etc, lol, unlike here where the most recent Transformers was basically product placement 101 21:54 < aestetix_> I tend to agree 21:54 < aestetix_> as long as it's usable by the teacher and student and has the materials they need 21:56 <@oddball> Well... pretty sure if Sony decided to pay serious $$$ for there to be Sony TVs in anime, there would be Sony TVs in anime. 22:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah 22:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> they get Somy tvs 22:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> all the time, lol 22:04 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 22:06 <@oddball> and... now for the making of the apple pie 22:53 < RangerZ|Laptop> oddball: do you ferment the liqueur yourself? or just blend pre-existing stuff? 22:53 <@oddball> Oh, just blend pre-existing stuff. 22:53 <@oddball> Pretty sure Naienko would be pissed if I did anything that would make the ATF upset with me. 23:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> I expected you to say 'more upset' 23:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> also, brewing your own is legal 23:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> as long as you aren't selling it 23:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> as long as you are past the 21st amendment in 1933, lol 23:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> we're still having issues with the 14th, but ehh 23:05 <@oddball> Brewing beer and making wine is legal. Distilling isn't. 23:13 <@wilpig> it's only illegal if you get caught 23:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh i thought you were making wine based stuff 23:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> with the fruits, etc 23:14 <@oddball> Yeah... but the ATF has gone from "the tax man" to "scary para-military force that will fucking burn your house down with you in it." 23:15 <@oddball> RangerZ|Laptop: Nope. One of the ingredients is PGA, and the result is roughly 40 proof. It's pretty difficult to get that high proof through fermentation alone. 23:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> ahh 23:23 <@Dagmar> THis is why you use PGA as a fermentation accellerant. ;) 23:27 <@Dagmar> ...because no matter what, it won't be as bad as what these people are doing: http://www.foodrepublic.com/2011/11/08/finally-whiskey-horrible-people 23:27 <@GateKeeper> Title: Finally A Whiskey For Horrible People | Food Republic (at www.foodrepublic.com) 23:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> wow... 23:44 <@oddball> uh... you mean as a replacement? 23:44 <@oddball> fermentation stops basically because the yeast chokes to death on its own shit (the alcohol). 23:45 <@oddball> ah... Kansas "clear whiskey" 23:45 <@oddball> I've had it. It's total crap. 23:46 <@oddball> Tastes like bad vodka... which makes sense since it's essentially a whiskey flavored vodka. 23:47 <@Dagmar> Yes, this is why we need to start marketing contraceptives to hipsters. Contraceptives which are "accidentally" permanent. 23:48 <@oddball> If you haven't already, check out the website. 23:48 <@oddball> They state that whiskey is old... for old people. This while hipsters are going apeshit over whiskeys. 23:51 <@Dagmar> I already believe the world would be vastly improved if something got added to PBR that causes sterility 23:51 <@Dagmar> I wonder... --- Log closed Wed Aug 06 00:00:10 2014