--- Log opened Fri Aug 01 00:00:05 2014 01:03 < aestetix_> Dagmar: hey 01:03 < aestetix_> Dagmar: just fyi, looks like we might have some new movements coming along with the nym stuff in IDESG 01:39 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:41 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 01:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 02:16 < aestetix_> 05:59 <@aestetix> 02:16 < aestetix_> uh 02:16 < aestetix_> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5198604 02:16 < aestetix_> that's better 02:36 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://www.cfp.org/2013/wiki/index.php/Main_Page 02:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: Main Page - CFPWiki (at www.cfp.org) 02:36 < RangerZ> you might be interested in that 02:38 < RangerZ> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nym 02:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Nym - Wookieepedia, the Star Wars Wiki (at starwars.wikia.com) 02:38 < RangerZ> Nym was a Feeorin pirate who led the Lok Revenants. Known for his theft and subsequent use of a prototype Scurrg H-6 prototype bomber, the Havoc, Nym's depredations eventually earned him the ire of the Trade Federation, who hired mercenary Vana Sage to capture and imprison him. 02:38 < RangerZ> lol 03:24 < RangerZ> also... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6z0DwnEGeA 03:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: CIA Confesses To Hacking Senate - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 03:25 < RangerZ> some of the stories that have come out of D.C. in the past few years... is out of spy novels 04:00 < aestetix_> RangerZ: that's amusing given that I spoke at CFP this year 04:00 < aestetix_> http://www.cfp.org/2014/wp/ ;) 04:29 < RangerZ> well I'm looking into conf. to submit to, and came across it 04:29 < RangerZ> thats all 04:29 < RangerZ> https://www.usenix.org/conference/foci14 that one too 04:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: FOCI 14 | USENIX (at www.usenix.org) 04:30 < RangerZ> 4th USENIX Workshop on Free and Open Communications on the Internet 04:30 < RangerZ> its in san diego this month, so figured you might actually be able to stop in 04:35 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzzz] 04:38 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 04:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 04:42 -!- Corydon76-home [~quassel@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:00 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08 -!- Corydon76-home [~quassel@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 05:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-home] by ChanServ 05:49 < aestetix_> uh 05:49 < aestetix_> I guess rangerz doesn't realize that San Diego is not exactly close to me. 07:38 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:46 <@wilpig> http://shirt.woot.com/ <-- actually nice 09:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Shirt.Woot (at shirt.woot.com) 10:02 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: Uh, yeah. Suggesting someone in the Bay Area head to San Diego is like suggesting someone in Nashville head to New Orleans 10:02 <@wilpig> which is always a good idea! 10:03 <@Corydon76-home> Going to a place located below sea level, when the politicians refuse to fund the civil engineers sufficient to protect the area from a major weather event seems like a really bad idea 10:06 <@brimstone> !seen ignotus-sdf 10:06 <@GateKeeper> brimstone: ignotus-sdf was last seen in #se2600 1 day, 23 hours, 23 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: I love the way xchat never tells me when I disconnect. 10:07 <@brimstone> hehe 10:09 <@wilpig> heh 10:09 <@Dagmar> ...but that's what our government is all about... Demanding things and then dodging the blame when it turns out the people they demanded them from were denied the ability to do it properly 10:15 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: See the current immigration crisis. 10:17 <@Corydon76-home> Which I think is going to end up creating a situation where courts are eventually going to have to say, "In the absence of the ability of the government to follow procedure, the kids can stay indefinitely." 10:19 <@Corydon76-home> Or, in more legal terms, a lack of due process means the government's illegal immigration cases are dismissed, with prejudice. 10:24 <@Corydon76-home> Which, if you think about it, creates a really interesting new case of undocumented worker: someone who doesn't have the papers to show legal immigration, yet cannot be deported when discovered. 10:24 <@Dagmar> If you wanted people to do something, you'd take all those kids and teach them to mow lawns. 10:24 <@Corydon76-home> I think most of them will end up doing farm work, actually 10:24 <@wilpig> that's immigrant work 11:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah but "threatening" to have them mowing lawns would be pretty likely to make people sit up and realize how much stupid they're surrounded by 11:37 <@Dagmar> Like... "Hey wait... maybe we _really are_ importing poverty!" 11:39 <@Corydon76-home> Eh, all of the immigrants I've run across are studious and hardworking. It's only the native born Americans where laziness seems to be endemic. 11:40 <@Dagmar> They may well be that, but without legit jobs available, all that happens is they lower the bottom end of the poverty scale and increase the amount of crime in an area 11:49 <@Dagmar> _There is no way around this_ and people keep trying to pretend it's some abstract concept that never happens. 11:50 <@Dagmar> So... let's streamline the process, and start running a government contract groundkeeper service, powered by illegal alien children. 11:52 <@Corydon76-home> I wasn't aware that poverty had a scale, only a line. 11:55 <@Dagmar> Clearly you've never spent more than a day or two going hungry. 11:55 <@Corydon76-home> Nope, I try to eat something at least once a day 11:56 <@Dagmar> Pay attention the next time there's landscapers in your area 11:56 <@Dagmar> ...or when one of them runs over someone on a motorcycle. 11:56 <@Dagmar> ...because he doesn't have a licence. 11:56 <@Dagmar> ...and he doesn't have a licence because he's not a citizen, but his boss lets him drive the work truck anyway, without insurance. 11:57 <@Dagmar> ...because he works for next to nothing, allowing his boss who runs the landscaping company to make a pretty huge profit and undercut all their competitors 11:57 <@Corydon76-home> Uh, Dagmar, we're in Tennessee. A good 50% of the drivers on the road don't have licenses, because they ignore the authority of the government to issue them 11:58 <@Dagmar> ...and the fact that they're on their third DUI. I'm aware. 11:58 <@Dagmar> Yet i'm not citing a theoretical occurrence 11:58 <@Dagmar> This fucking happened on Charlotte last month 11:58 <@Dagmar> or rather the month before last. 11:58 <@Dagmar> Dude was an illegal. Killed a retiree on his motorcycle. 11:59 <@Dagmar> Most of the crew at the landscaping company were also illegals. 11:59 <@Corydon76-home> The last motorcycle accident I saw the aftermath of involved a white woman in tears. I suspect the motorcycle rider was actually Latino. 11:59 <@Dagmar> Want to know where all the stolen lawnmowers are going? Illegals. 12:00 <@Dagmar> There's rather a _lot_ of crime surrounding those folks, whether they're good-hearted or not 12:00 <@Dagmar> ...but hey, it keeps lots of jobs paying right at the least the law will allow an employer to pay someone, with no benefits at all. 12:00 <@Corydon76-home> Is that actual crime statistics, or just something you've figured based upon a few personal experiences? 12:00 <@Dagmar> ...and that means extra money for people who are already pretty well off. 12:01 <@Dagmar> Actual crime statistics, police blotters, and paying attention. 12:01 <@Dagmar> Without citizenship papers, how do you think these people are making money to feed themselves? 12:01 <@Dagmar> It's not mahic. 12:01 <@Dagmar> er magic 12:02 <@Corydon76-home> We know how they're making money. There are plenty of employers in Middle Tennessee which will hire them 12:02 <@Dagmar> ...which is also crime. 12:02 <@Dagmar> ...and lets those employers keep offering the least possible money, which leaves them still well below the poverty line. 12:02 <@Corydon76-home> No, it's a civil law violation, not a criminal law violation 12:03 <@Dagmar> What civil law 12:03 <@Corydon76-home> If it was criminal law, the employer would go to jail, instead of being slapped with a fine 12:03 <@Dagmar> LOL 12:03 <@Dagmar> Rich people don't go to jail 12:03 <@Dagmar> Business owners never go to jail unless they embezzle or cheat on their taxes 12:03 <@Corydon76-home> Employment law is all civil law. The worst you can do to a person in violation of a civil law is slap them with a fine. 12:04 <@Dagmar> Why... those people are always upstanding members of their local community 12:04 <@Corydon76-home> Or revoke their business license 12:04 <@Dagmar> Still crime. 12:04 <@Corydon76-home> Violators of civil laws don't go to jail 12:04 <@Corydon76-home> Nope, crime is specifically a violation of criminal law 12:04 <@Dagmar> So a violation of a civil law is not a crime then 12:04 <@Dagmar> Handy to know 12:04 <@Corydon76-home> Correct 12:04 <@Corydon76-home> It's illegal, but not a crime 12:05 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 12:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 12:05 <@Dagmar> You shoudl actually look up some of these words. I think you've been mislead as to their actual meaning. 12:05 <@Dagmar> A crime is a violation of law. 12:05 <@Dagmar> It doesn't matter if it's a civil or a criminal law. 12:06 <@Dagmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime 12:06 <@GateKeeper> Title: Crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 12:06 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: common usage versus legal usage 12:07 <@Dagmar> Doesn't. Matter. 12:07 <@Corydon76-home> I think we had this same discussion last night. 12:07 <@Dagmar> No, we did not. 12:07 <@Corydon76-home> In common usage, a hacker is a criminal who breaks into computers 12:07 <@Corydon76-home> Recall that argument now? 12:07 <@Dagmar> Yes, but it's not the same argument as this. 12:08 <@Dagmar> It is not even the same type of argument. 12:08 <@Dagmar> I was speaking about a deliberate change of context used in an argument in order to redefine the problem in an impossible way. 12:09 <@Corydon76-home> From the Wikipedia article you cited: "The state (government) has the power to severely restrict one's liberty for committing a crime. Therefore, in modern societies, a criminal procedure must be adhered to during the investigation and trial. Only if found guilty, the offender may be sentenced to punishment such as community sentence, imprisonment, life imprisonment or, in some jurisdictions, even death." 12:09 <@Dagmar> Irrelevant 12:09 <@Dagmar> First fucking sentence in the wikipedia article: "In ordinary language, the term crime denotes an unlawful act punishable by a state" 12:10 <@Corydon76-home> Second fucking sentence: "The term crime does not, in modern criminal law, have any simple and universally accepted definition" 12:11 <@Dagmar> Then there's no point in arguing further because apparently there is no definition of crime, so neither one of us could possibly be right 12:11 <@Dagmar> Therefore crime doesn't exist. 12:11 <@Dagmar> THerefore illegal aliens being forced to live like serfs and make themselves into victims on a daily basis isn't wrong 12:11 <@Dagmar> It's completely okay. 12:11 <@Dagmar> ...because it's not a crime because there's no definition of crime. 12:12 <@Corydon76-home> which is precisely why I use the terms civil law and criminal law 12:12 <@Dagmar> ...which is fucking pointless and irrelevant. 12:13 <@Dagmar> Identity theft in order to obtain fraudulent citizenship papers == problem 12:13 <@Corydon76-home> As are most of your arguments about language 12:13 <@Dagmar> Theft of property in order to eat == wrong 12:13 <@Dagmar> Working below minimum wage == wrong 12:14 <@Corydon76-home> Wearing white after Labor Day == wrong 12:14 <@Dagmar> Working extended hours without being paid overtime as required by law == wrong 12:14 <@Corydon76-home> Fluorescent lighting == wrong 12:14 <@Dagmar> Moving violations, vehicular homocide, DUIs, all with literally no repercussions because they're not a citizen == wrong 12:14 <@Dagmar> But whatever man 12:14 <@Dagmar> You just keep redefining everything as being perfectly okay and fuck yourself. 12:14 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING! 12:14 * shapr hugs Dagmar 12:15 * shapr hugs klixa 12:15 * Corydon76-home bends shapr over for a "hug" 12:15 <@Dagmar> Your self delusions that illegals aren't literally a fucking whirlwhind of crime and evil just because they're nice people. 12:15 <@Dagmar> I'm sure they will serve you well. 12:16 <@Corydon76-home> "literally" 12:17 <@Dagmar> Dude, take your pedantry and shove it up your ass already. 12:18 <@Dolemite> Damn. You two are in a pissing match and the book of face is down. I may have to actually do some work. 12:19 * klixa hugs shapr back 12:19 <@Dagmar> No, no pissing match here. 12:19 <@shapr> klixa: doing cool stuff? 12:19 <@Dagmar> I was attempting to discuss a problem reasonably, and someone else wanted to go full autie 12:20 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: I think it's kind of funny how Dagmar and I start out in agreement, and then because I disagree with him on one point, he goes on an epic rant 12:20 <@klixa> when i was living in Los Angeles they changed the law so that if you got caught driving witout a license you wouldnt get your car towed... all to accomodate illegals 12:21 <@klixa> shapr: yeah, i got an espresso machine so i just made a latte 12:21 <@klixa> shapr: and, im planning to make a king size sheet wall mural...but i dunno what i want on it yet... i have dye, paint, etc... 12:22 <@Corydon76-home> It's almost as bad as disagreeing with Amber. 12:23 <@Dagmar> Start with a chalk outline. ;) 12:25 <@klixa> "deliberate change of context" ok now i finally have a label for when people do that 12:25 <@shapr> klixa: sounds exciting! 12:26 <@klixa> my inability to focus makes that annoying when people do it, but like i never know how to describe it...but now i do 12:27 <@klixa> shapr: have you seen the movie God Is Not Dead? I watched it last night and enjoyed it. 12:29 * oddball searches for sarcasm and finds none. 12:30 <@oddball> really? 12:30 <@Dolemite> I may actually watch Sharknado 2: The Second One. 12:30 <@Dolemite> Not that I watched the first one 12:30 <@brimstone> i watched the first one 12:30 <@brimstone> it was shit 12:30 <@wilpig> http://confusedcatsagainstfeminism.tumblr.com/ 12:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: confused cats against feminism (at confusedcatsagainstfeminism.tumblr.com) 12:31 <@oddball> You would probably like the first one. 12:31 <@oddball> I actually saw it in theaters. 12:32 <@Dolemite> oddball: I'm not surprised. You saying that you saw an ultra-campy movie in a theater is like me saying that I drank all of the beer in my glass. It's akin to a law of nature. 12:33 <@oddball> Oh, this is true. For some reason, I remember you also enjoying crap movies. 12:33 <@Dolemite> Let's just say that I'm B-movie curious. 12:33 <@Dolemite> Something that happened in college 12:33 <@Dagmar> oddball: You know what to do. 12:34 <@Dagmar> oddball: He will be the new Keeper of the Quest For The Egg Salad 12:34 <@Dagmar> oddball: You can finally be free of it 12:34 * oddball shudders 12:36 <@oddball> I probably would have watched Sharknado 2 last night, but I was in TKD class. 12:36 <@Dagmar> I probably would have tried, but I had some self-respect. 12:36 <@oddball> lies 12:37 <@Dagmar> This is true. You couldn't have paid me to watch that. 12:45 <@oddball> hehehehe... Everytown for Gun Safety's latest ad has done so much to promote gun ownership that they've taken it down. 12:46 <@shapr> klixa: I have not seen it 12:47 <@klixa> shapr: i have no clue what kind of movies you like, but i liked it alot...i like happy movies that are uplifting... as opposed to gory, evil, crime ridden, etc type movies 12:47 <@wilpig> oh dear god 12:48 <@wilpig> official question at all team: "why are there no women in tumblr's upper management?" 12:48 <@Dagmar> Is that like "why are there no women in the CEO position?" 12:49 <@brimstone> wilpig: counter with "why does gender in upper management matter?" 12:49 <@oddball> "because Tumblr hates women." There. done. That's what they want to hear anyways. 12:49 <@shapr> Yeah, I like cheerful movies too. A friend of mine is organizing a disney movie night, I'm looking forward to it! 12:49 <@Dagmar> Better answer: "Because none of you bitches formed the company" 12:50 <@Dagmar> because those people are all brain damaged 12:50 <@Dagmar> I'm still in awe at the level of stupid it takes to call Doctor Who a sexist show 12:50 <@klixa> shapr: i love disney movies...one of my favs is Treasure Planet 12:51 <@shapr> Yeah, that's a fun movie. 12:51 <@Dagmar> ...or to even fail to realize that the test being applied will immediately disqualify any movie or show where the main character is a man. 12:54 <@oddball> klixa: Yeah... Treasure Planet was a lot of fun. 12:54 <@shapr> http://rt.com/usa/177280-car-dies-house-bees/ 12:56 <@klixa> oddball: :) 12:56 <@oddball> Speaking of feel good films, Naienko and I will be going to see Guardians of the Galaxy sometime this weekend. 12:57 <@brimstone> i don't trust that movie 12:57 <@brimstone> there's a talking raccoon or something in it 12:57 <@wilpig> http://confusedcatsagainstfeminism.tumblr.com/post/93323797397/i-dont-need-feminism-because 12:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: confused cats against feminism — I don’t need feminism because... (at confusedcatsagainstfeminism.tumblr.com) 12:57 <@shapr> I don't trust movies that have sharks in tornadoes. 12:57 <@oddball> A psychopathic talking alien racoon with lots of guns. What could possibly go wrong? 13:04 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: ping 13:07 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 13:10 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 13:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 13:31 <@wilpig> look at the size of that hot aisle. http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/08/01/bitfury-asic-maker-builds-20mw-bitcoin-mining-data-center/ 13:31 <@GateKeeper> Title: BitFury ASIC Maker Builds 20MW Bitcoin Mining Data Center (at www.datacenterknowledge.com) 13:33 <@brimstone> it's not the size of your hot aisle, it's how well you ventilate 13:33 <@brimstone> it's not just something people with small hot aisles say, doctors say it too 13:44 <@wilpig> I should probably go hit an atm. stupid toll roads 13:48 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPXr-BeXJHI 13:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: If Miyazaki Films Were Like Other Anime - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 13:50 <@wilpig> the porco rosso / princess monoke / pokemon crossover made me giggle 14:05 <@Dagmar> wilpig: This will drive you batty http://pastebin.com/98CcRRi3 14:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: How to waste cores - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 14:06 <@Dagmar> wilpig: THey want me to tell them why they're getting device busy errors 14:06 <@Dagmar> This is not a good start 14:06 <@wilpig> good lord 14:06 <@Dagmar> 32 core box... NOT THREADED APP 14:06 <@wilpig> I see that 14:07 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zmk6ooa31zilwct/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-01%20at%201.59.30%20PM.png 14:07 <@Dagmar> wilpig: Hell yes that'll be good 14:08 <@wilpig> I got a decent seat too 14:11 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l7s9awgdgl34dui/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-01%20at%202.09.24%20PM.png 14:19 <@critch> wilpig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM27hCTYVnY 14:19 <@GateKeeper> Title: Primus & the Chocolate Factory 2013-12-31 Willy Wonka OST Set II Fox Theater Oakland CA - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 14:23 <@wilpig> critch: it looks bad ass right? 14:24 <@critch> I'm annoyed that Claypool will come to nashville, but not bring that show close. 14:24 <@critch> Cinicinati, St. Louis, or Atlanta. No Nashville 14:25 <@wilpig> he's doing his twangy shit in nashville though 14:27 <@critch> Searching for tickets... 14:27 <@critch> Your wait time is approximately 15 minutes or more. 14:27 <@critch> That is what TicketBastard just spit out on the website while looking for tickets in Cinci 14:28 <@wilpig> I skipped ticketmaster and went straight to the theater's page and got mine 14:29 <@wilpig> I was tempted to go into the city to see it rather than the one right here in my backyard. http://www.ticketmaster.com/an-evening-with-primus-and-the-new-york-new-york-10-31-2014/event/1D004CF0D2CB7C75?artistid=735894&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=60&camefrom=CFC_BEACONTHEATRE_BEACONTHEATRE&brand=beacontheatre 14:35 <@critch> 2 or the 3 locations went through TicketBastard, The 3rd went through Evil Nation. 14:39 <@Shadow404> anyone have experience with ordering uverse for the first time at a house? 14:51 <@critch> So much for a decent estimation on the TicketBastard site. 25 minutes into a 15 minute wait and I still have a 1 minute estimated wait time. 14:53 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:53 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 14:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 14:57 <@Shadow404> heh, still better than comcast 14:58 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:01 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 15:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 15:18 * shapr hugs Shadow404 15:26 <@Shadow404> diaf shapr 15:26 * shapr hops cheerfully 15:42 -!- Corydon76-home [~quassel@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:42 -!- Corydon76-home [~quassel@c-69-137-93-158.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-home] by ChanServ 16:18 < aestetix_> http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/07/29/congress-members-staffers-blocked-from-accessing-website-for-hackers-on-planet-earth-conference/ 16:36 < aestetix_> I set up a firefog plugin to redirect twitter.com to a file I made that says "no twitter!" 16:36 < aestetix_> it's sad how many times I have seen that page today 16:45 < ShadowHn1r> i think after a few months on the new job i'm going to move to Chattanooga 16:45 -!- ShadowHn1r is now known as ShadowHntr 16:45 -!- ShadowHntr [~alex@ec2-54-235-164-175.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Changing host] 16:45 -!- ShadowHntr [~alex@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 16:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 16:54 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 16:54 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 16:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 17:40 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzzz] 17:40 < aestetix_> thanks to reddit 17:40 < aestetix_> I now know that "Santa Clause fetish" is a thing 17:41 < aestetix_> unrelated, awesome line 17:41 < aestetix_> "For sure, those who complain about Microsoft not being open source are obviously trying to cover the fact that they are bad at reading assembly language." 17:47 <@Corydon76-home> Clearly, someone doesn't understand the difference between assembly language and machine code. 17:50 <@Dickie> machine code are all the beeps and boops, right? 17:52 <@Corydon76-home> Technically, it's the beeps and silence in an ordered way 17:52 < aestetix_> heh 17:53 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: you make it sound like morse code 17:53 < aestetix_> Which I guess it could technically be interpreted as 17:53 < aestetix_> Although I usually look at machine code as hex rather than ones and eros 17:53 < aestetix_> zeros 17:54 <@Corydon76-home> I wouldn't be surprised if you think of machine code in terms of eros, actually 17:54 <@Corydon76-home> I typically don't look at machine code at all 17:55 <@Corydon76-home> Or if I am, I'm skimming past it to find string tables 18:01 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: do you mean with strings, or with hexdump -C? 18:06 <@Corydon76-home> Usually with the strings utility, but I've also previously used a reverse-assembler 18:20 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 18:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 19:09 < aestetix_> klixa: have you read any Joyce? 19:09 < aestetix_> I just finished the Count of Monte Cristo, and some parts reminded me a bit of Portrait. 19:10 -!- iabosip [~iabosi@neverenough.info] has joined #se2600 20:27 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 21:34 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: ping 21:48 < iabosip> ping 21:48 < iabosip> pong 21:51 -!- scoob [~scoob@fsf/member/scoob] has joined #se2600 21:51 * scoob waves 21:57 -!- sdodson [~sdodson@2606:a000:110d:c0d3:4a5b:39ff:fe6f:8943] has joined #se2600 21:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 22:00 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzzz] 22:01 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 22:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 22:11 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:17 -!- npulse [~Hex@c-24-99-135-198.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:02 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X7xfm_7BrZc#t=3 wtf... 23:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: Official Video for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles "Shell Shocked" Rap - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 23:02 < RangerZ> I'd rather invite Vanilla ice back 23:02 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has joined #se2600 23:02 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@2605:8900:1000:1001:9:0:4a:2] has quit [Changing host] 23:02 -!- am1n0 [~devnull@unaffiliated/am1n0] has joined #se2600 23:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o am1n0] by ChanServ 23:21 <@Dagmar> Rangerz: Bad movies on Netflix... The Secret VIllage. The Entity. ...and Unidentified 23:21 <@Dagmar> All. Utterly. Shit. 23:26 <@Dagmar> Not as bad as The Quest for the Egg Salad, but pretty worthless just the same 23:28 <@Dagmar> The Secret Village has a few scenes where the dialog is so bad you have to wonder if they weren't just splicing unrelated dialog together to fill time 23:37 < RangerZ> Star Citizen Patch 12.5.1 "known issues" "Failure to stand clear of the M50 engines may cause you to be sucked into the ship. Game over man, game over. [Seriously you will get stuck and need to restart the game -Ed]" 23:37 < RangerZ> lol 23:41 <@Dagmar> He couldn't use some of those awesome poly counts to put a black greasy smear on the rear wall? 23:43 < RangerZ> thats the 61$M stretch goal 23:44 < RangerZ> duh 23:44 < RangerZ> lol 23:44 < RangerZ> hell... at this rate... "Buy CryTek" might be a stretch goal 23:45 <@Dagmar> Well, I hear they're about to go on the market for cheap. :) 23:45 < RangerZ> yep 23:47 <@wilpig> there is a tomtom / samsung conspiracy 23:47 <@wilpig> I just tried to take a video showing my tomtom being a giant piece of shit and randomly rebooting when it is connected to vehicle power and my phone locked so hard I had to pull the battery 23:48 <@wilpig> also... tomtom reset itself earlier today and cleared all my saved points and all my history in it 23:48 <@wilpig> further... I ran a toll today. I gotta figure out how to pay it before I get some crazy expensive ticket over it 23:48 <@wilpig> Verizanno bridge is cash only 23:49 <@wilpig> _cash_ 23:49 <@wilpig> you have no ezpass and you only have plastic. you get ticket 23:49 <@Dagmar> You have an Android phone. 23:50 <@wilpig> I also have a gps for when i'm in the car that sticks nicely to the windshield 23:50 <@sdodson> wilpig, you moved to NYC right? 23:50 <@wilpig> sdodson: just outside it 23:51 <@sdodson> cool 23:52 <@wilpig> why, what's up? you coming up? 23:52 < RangerZ> wilpig: women's only room at the con, you're in favor of that right? that way there is obviously a men's only room too ;) 23:52 <@wilpig> RangerZ: white men only 23:52 <@sdodson> wilpig, no, well no immediate plans. Those names just sounded very New York. 23:52 < RangerZ> I'm not kidding 23:52 < RangerZ> lol 23:52 <@ShadowHntr> *rolls eyes* 23:52 <@sdodson> Sharon and I will probably take a trip to NYC soon, her cousin up there had a baby and she's never been to NYC 23:52 <@wilpig> new project manager said the funniest thing. "I love being a woman in tech, there's never a line for the bathroom" 23:53 <@wilpig> RangerZ: why have y'all not thrown crazy pants in the river yet? 23:53 <@ShadowHntr> RangerZ: what part of TN you in again? 23:53 <@sdodson> The bathrooms on the support techs floor are horrible 23:53 < RangerZ> nashville 23:53 <@ShadowHntr> ok just checking 23:53 <@sdodson> It's a good 30:1 m:f ratio 23:54 <@sdodson> IT floors are probably 5:1. Corporate functions are more like 1.5:1. 23:55 <@Dagmar> SHe might float past my condo and get stuck on something, so... no thanks. 23:55 <@wilpig> RangerZ: although on second thought since we have all that space that is gonna be unused it might as well have a closed door and a sign that reads "women only" so people later can speculate that there were indeed women present 23:57 <@Dagmar> heh --- Log closed Sat Aug 02 00:00:06 2014