--- Log opened Thu Jul 31 00:00:04 2014
00:12 <@Dagmar>  So... entertaining PTR bug if you're HOrde
00:12 <@Dagmar> Rather frequently the tradeskill buildings are staffed by Alliance.
00:12 <@Dagmar> This leads to a never-ending murderfest.  lol
00:13 <@wilpig_> ya can't entice me back in.  no.  i've kicked that monkey off my back
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01:43 < aestetix_> so uh
01:43 < aestetix_> I'll search for this in a second, but worth asking in here
01:43 < aestetix_> any tools that can read in an .ibd table file and just let you browse the table?
01:43 < aestetix_> (assuming you have the .frm, etc)
03:04 < aestetix_> and solved
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06:03 < aestetix_> Dagmar: enjoy http://i.imgur.com/NA2sK3y.jpg
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07:39 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:59 <@wilpig_> you're the ho!
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09:01 <@wilpig_> wow.  http://sploid.gizmodo.com/videoclip-without-music-makes-turn-down-for-what-creepi-1613228622/+caseychan
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10:35 <@Corydon76-home> Can we sign up Orlando Bloom for boxing lessons?  Next time, he needs a KO shot.
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10:43 <@Dagmar> What's the name of that whitelist antivirus that Rattle likes?
10:43 <@Dagmar> Ah bit9
11:35 <@Dagmar> Jesus
11:35 <@Dagmar> I hope for their sake that teh DefCon guys vetted this BadUSB thing carefully
11:35 <@Dagmar> What's being reported sound like VC pitch
11:35 <@Dagmar> i.e., "75% organic bullshit"
11:36 <@wilpig> what gizmodo reported on it was not good.  comes down to how many usb devices actually have their firmware updatable
11:36 <@Dagmar> ...and whether or not the user is brain dead.
11:36 <@wilpig> most are
11:36 <@Dagmar> ...and whether or not the operating system is brain dead.
11:37 <@Dagmar> ...and what people's tolerance for bullshit will be at BlackHat
11:37 <@Dagmar> The fundamental flaw in this is rather like the flaw in "BIOS viruses"
11:38 <@Dagmar> A buncha different ways to flash, and no clear-cut way to make a virus that's not likely to brick the PC
11:38 <@Dagmar> Very few USB thumbdrives have firmware you can flash
11:39 <@Dagmar> ...and most of the USB devices capable of being flashed use their own special little way to go about it
11:40 <@Dagmar> ...and this is from Ars: "Still, Nohl said BadUSB confirms that the badBIOS phenomena Ruiu described is technically feasible."
11:40 <@Dagmar> THat the guy believes in BadBIOS tells me he might be technically gifted, but probably lacks the sense to see how edge case his vector really is
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12:06 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I see an alternate way of emulating all of the same behaviors as BadBIOS was allegedly creating, without actually infecting the BIOS
12:07 <@Corydon76-home> Basically, it's a hypervisor written in assembly
12:08 <@Corydon76-home> Modify the BIOS screen to display only for a millisecond, then show your fake BIOS screen run from inside the hypervisor
12:08 <@Corydon76-home> You can intercept any call you don't like to try to rewrite the BIOS
12:10 <@Corydon76-home> and best of all, since it's really only modifying the boot sector and making one tiny change to the BIOS preferences, it works exactly the same way across all motherboards
12:12 <@Corydon76-home> I wouldn't say it's easy, but it's definitely doable
12:21 <@wilpig> what say you channel,  motherboard, ram, or cpu error?  http://hastebin.com/xadehibeyu.vbs
12:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: hastebin (at hastebin.com)
12:22 <@Dagmar> Yes, but there's a pretty serious difference between a targeted attack of a specific platform and OS, and a thing capable of spreading like a pandemic, which is what Gizmodo/Ars/Wired are hinting at
12:23 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I'm thinking boot sector infection, which could appear to affect all operating systems
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12:28 <@Dagmar> Assuming no UEFI and assuming there's any way to get raw disk access without compromising the OS first
12:36 < frsilent> anybody have thoughts on Coinbase as a company?
12:36 < frsilent> besides the stuff they have on their /jobs page
12:51 < frsilent> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_m98GAdqKM
12:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: Israel-Palestine: Is This A Debate? Russell Brand The Trews (E111) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
12:51 < frsilent> sorry mt
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13:19 <@shapr> SHAZAM!
13:20 <@shapr> awesome vintage terminal emulator: https://github.com/Swordifish90/cool-old-term
13:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: Swordifish90/cool-old-term · GitHub (at github.com)
13:21 <@shapr> klixa: y0 y0, wassup?
13:21 <@shapr> klixa: haven't seen you around lately, busy life?
13:22 <@klixa> hey, not much
13:22 <@klixa> shapr: yeah... and im starting to hink i am actually an introvert because i am drained from the past few days
13:23 <@klixa> i have lots of nwe art suplies tho...and as soon as i recharge (which could take a few days) gonna make stuffs
13:24 <@shapr> cool!
13:24 <@klixa> anywya, how are you , what are you, what are you up to?
13:25 <@shapr> going to DragonCon with lights on, dubstep block party in nashville the weekend before that, working at my cool job
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14:33 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
14:34 <@shapr> Dagmar: what's up with you?
14:34 <@Dagmar> Just a little few up with the thin-skinned bitches in the world today
14:35 <@Dagmar> Complaining about Katy Perry mismatching Japanese and Chinese "cultural attire", no less.
14:35 <@Dagmar> It's a fucking _costume_
14:35 <@Dagmar> It's there to look pretty, not be a museum piece
14:36 <@wilpig> they should be complaining that she isn't showing off more of her chesticles
14:36 <@Dagmar> ...but apparently there is somehow automatic validity attached to statements made by anyone claiming to be offended by a "white person".
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14:38 <@Dagmar> If all this talk of "cultural appropriation" had any merit, the Irish should be _mad as hell_ about ethnic black "step dancers" pretending it's _their_ art form.
14:38 <@Dagmar> ...because it's fucking highland dance.
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14:57 <@eryc> that's racist
14:57 <@wilpig> oh eryc only white people can be racist
14:58 <@Dagmar> ...which is a racist thing to say
14:58 <@eryc> just another privelege of being white
14:58 <@Dagmar> JUst like saying it is apparently a priviledge of the stupid
14:58 <@Corydon76-home> Technically, it's the historically dominant race which can only be racist.  In most cases, that's white people.
14:59 <@Dagmar> Technically, it's a load of shit.
14:59 <@Dagmar> ...and it's being used as an excuse to be racist about white people.
14:59 <@Dagmar> ...which is fucking stupid because most white people don't give a fuck.
14:59 <@Corydon76-home> Nope, racism includes within its definition a historical component.  The word you're looking for is discriminatory.
14:59 <@wilpig> if a black person hates whitey because he's white it's racist.  Doesn't matter if there is one black guyin the population or a million
15:00 <@Dagmar> It is an unnecessarily _divisive_ attitude that creates far more diharmony and injustice than it curtails.
15:00 <@Dagmar> s/diharmony/disharmony/
15:00 <@Corydon76-home> You can even say unfairly discriminatory.  But racism is a separate issue.
15:01 <@eryc> it's ok to be racist if you're a comedian though
15:01 <@wilpig> can't we all just agree to hate dickie?  is there anyone more deserving?
15:01 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: No.
15:02 <@eryc> stupid people, ie everyone, don't make distinctions between racism and discrimination
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15:02 <@Dagmar> In common speech it doesn't have anything to do with history or the dominant whatever any more than the word "theory" in the context of science means "a thing we've just sort of been thinking about"
15:03 <@CRasH180> Racism is a form of discrimination
15:03 <@Dagmar> So let's not allow people to mix and match contexts in order to confuse the issue so they can pretend they're not actually racist dickbags.
15:03 <@Dagmar> It's only the specialized lexicon of sociology that ties a majority case to the definition of racism.
15:04 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: does hacker mean someone who criminally breaks into computers, or does hacker mean something else?  The "common usage", which is what you're advocating, means something different from what you'd like it to.
15:04 <@Dagmar> The common definition for 'racism' is precisely what you get when you ask Google https://www.google.com/search?q=racism
15:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: racism - Google Search (at www.google.com)
15:04 <@Dagmar> It says _nothing_ about established groups.
15:04 <@CRasH180> dis·crim·i·na·tion * treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination
15:05 <@CRasH180> rac·ism * a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others
15:05 <@Corydon76-home> Hacker:  common definition or specialized definition?  What do you think?
15:05 <@Dagmar> Depends upon the context.
15:05 <@Dagmar> Changing the context in order to win an argument is silly
15:06 <@Dagmar> There's two other contexts in which 'hacker' has a radically different meaning.
15:06 <@Dagmar> Golf, and authorship.  Pejoratives in both cases.
15:06 <@Dagmar> More importantly, changing contexts in order to try to redefine the question is _idiotic_
15:07 <@Dagmar> Someone talking about "white people do this" and "white people do that" is a damn racist.
15:07 <@Corydon76-home> You just lambasted me for using a specialized definition of racism, and now you're splitting hairs.
15:07 <@Dagmar> No, I am not.
15:07 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah.  You are.
15:07 <@Dagmar> Using a word from one specialized lexicon in the context where another is appropriate is _bad English_ and _destructive_
15:08 <@eryc> but white people do do stuff
15:08 <@Dagmar> It's no more sensible than the idiots claiming evolution is "just a theory"
15:08 <@Dagmar> ...because we call it the Theory of Evolution.
15:09 <@Corydon76-home> From your Google definition of racism:  "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior."
15:09 <@Dagmar> ...and that "black people can't be racist because they're not the ones in control" is almost always used to justify dickbag racist behaviour
15:09 <@Corydon76-home> Do blacks consider themselves to be superior to whites?  No?  Not racist, then.
15:09 <@eryc> some do
15:09 <@Dagmar> Well then I suppose there's very little white racism since most white people don't give a shit what color anyone is
15:10 <@Dagmar> ...except perhaps at the cosmetics counter at the mall.
15:10 <@Dagmar> They've got a legit complaint.
15:10 <@eryc> in the ghetto you'll only find dark shades of makeup
15:10 <@Dagmar> You can't just slap the same shade of lipstick on everyone
15:11 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: there's plenty of white racism left, unfortunately.  However, you're correct in that most of it is classist, and not racist
15:11 <@Dagmar> "plenty" is weasel wording
15:11 <@Dagmar> There's "plenty" of fish in the sea, but the sea is still 99.9% water.
15:11 <@eryc> and legos
15:11 <@Dagmar> There's certainly plenty of black racism.
15:11 <@Corydon76-home> Depends upon where you are.  If you're in South Carolina or Mississippi, it's far more prevalent than in Illinois or California
15:12 <@Dagmar> In my lifetime I have heard far more racist pejoratives directed at _me_ than I have heard directed at any other group.
15:12 <@eryc> quiet down honkey
15:12 <@Dagmar> Soo... fuck each and every last one of these idiots who think they get a free pass
15:13 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: But, according to the definition that you cited to me, it's gotta include them feeling that their race is superior
15:13 <@Dagmar> Rather obviously it does
15:13 <@Dagmar> Without it all you get is discrimination
15:13 <@eryc> god chose black people haven't you listened to Nas
15:13 <@Corydon76-home> eryc: and I suspect those blacks consider themselves to be individually superior, not superior as a result of their race
15:13 <@eryc> also, arabs
15:14 <@Dagmar> ...and yet there's Black Pride Festivals and "It's a black thing - you wouldn't understand" and "Miss Black Whatever" pageants
15:14 <@Dagmar> So I rather doubt it's as simple as they personally feel superior
15:15 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: none of which indicates that they believe that their race is superior
15:15 <@Dagmar> At least until you try and put up "Miss White Whatever" pageant flyers
15:15 <@Dagmar> Then people lose their goddamn minds.
15:15 <@Corydon76-home> Rather, it indicates that they believe that most of the contestants wouldn't have a chance if they allowed other races
15:16 <@Dagmar> If they weren't being discriminatory dickbags you mean?
15:16 <@eryc> Corydon76-home is saying black people are ugly
15:16 <@Corydon76-home> And again, we're back to discrimination not being the same as racism
15:16 <@eryc> that's racist
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> eryc: Nah, you're just homophobic
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> It's a gay thing.  You wouldn't understand.
15:17 <@eryc> i'm not homophobic i just don't like most gay people
15:18 <@Dagmar> That would be homo-averse or something
15:18 <@Dagmar> or homo-not-likey
15:18 <@Dagmar> ;)
15:18 <@Dagmar> I'll stick with being homoapathetic
15:19 <@eryc> i don't like most people in general
15:19 <@Corydon76-home> To really understand gay people, you have to walk a mile... with a dick in your ass.
15:19 <@Dagmar> lol
15:19 <@Dagmar> That's a good one
15:19 <@Dagmar> Deranged, but there's a nice curve on it
15:20 <@Dagmar> It just _infuriates_ me when I see people carping about how "white people" do this that and the other that hurts them
15:20 <@Dagmar> ...and then decide to  hold that grudge against "white people"
15:20 <@Corydon76-home> I still don't understand why some guys like that.  But, as far as I'm concerned, as long as they like my dick, I don't have to understand it.
15:21 <@Dagmar> Because it's not "white people".  99.9% of the time it's incredibly rich people who don't actually give a shit what color someone is--just that they can exert undue and inappropriate influence over that person
15:22 <@Dagmar> ...and ain't shit going to get resolved while people are barking up the wrong tree like that.
15:22 <@Dagmar> ...and it is also quickly creating _more_ problems.
15:23 <@Corydon76-home> I think Jonathan Swift had the right idea, although he really should have advocated eating the rich.
15:23 <@Dagmar> It's what all the cool kids are doing.
15:23 <@Dagmar> Including me.
15:23 <@Dagmar> I don't have a list of olgarchs, I have a menu.
15:23 <@Dagmar> s/olgarchs/oligarchs/
15:24 <@Dagmar> Someday, justice and dinner will be served at the same time.
15:24 <@Corydon76-home> and unlike with the poor, the rich can very easily take themselves off the menu, simply by giving their riches away
15:25 <@Dagmar> Actually if they weren't oligarchist assholes they'd never have wound up on it in the first place
15:25 <@Dagmar> There *are* rich people who aren't opressive dicks.
15:25 <@Dagmar> There are just very few of them.
15:25 <@Dagmar> Irritatingly, some of the biggest richy-rich don't appear to be dickbags at all
15:26 <@Dagmar> Warren Buffet is an almost disturbingly reasonable and calm guy considering the age he grew up in
15:26 <@eryc> that's because he's not trampling over people to get to the top
15:26 <@wilpig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQNgK8r7SM
15:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: Beastie Boys - Brass Monkey (Official Video) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
15:27 <@Dagmar> I'm sure the ultra-rich would have cannibalised him for carping at them by now, except well... Hathaway's stock is worth a shitton
15:27 <@Dagmar> ...and he could still just fucking buy and/or bankrupt anyone who tried to fuck with him
15:28 <@Dagmar> Let's put that dude into office
15:28 <@Dagmar> "YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO ELECT THE RICHEST MOTHERFUCKER OF ALL TO BE OUR LEADER"
15:28 <@Dagmar> heh
15:29 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps just give him Bernanke's job, and a licence to shoot people.
15:29 <@eryc> larry ellison can be his VP
15:30 <@Dagmar> Well, that would be parity with the current pres/vp
15:30 <@Dagmar> He's about as crazy as Biden
15:30 <@Dagmar> It's just that every time I see Buffet speak it's like watching Noam Chomsky speak in money.
15:31 <@Dagmar> He's calm, he's collected, he explains his reasons and logic and research, and it's really fucking hard to find any chink in his arguments.
15:31 <@Dagmar> It's almost a shame he's not more megalomaniacal.
15:32 <@eryc> he needs an asian mistress to secretly tape him
15:32 <@Dagmar> ...but people would surely complain about it like people are still complaining about freaking Amazon.
15:33 <@Dagmar> Amazon released their deets on why the $9.99 pricing and it's all about price elasticity
15:33 <@wilpig> https://twitter.com/Wilpig/status/494928479654531073
15:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / Wilpig: @StopandShop Cant quite put ... (at twitter.com)
15:33 <@eryc> 9.99 for what?
15:33 <@Dagmar> It's pretty straightforward economics, backed up by the trucks filled with money they were running out to publishing houses
15:33 <@Dagmar> ...and they're still bitching.
15:33 <@Dagmar> eryc: Electronic Books
15:33 <@eryc> oh the subscription thing?
15:34 <@Dagmar> People were trying to complain that Amazon was strong-arming publishers by simply telling them flat out "Your books will be priced at $9.99, period.  No more."
15:34 <@eryc> oh
15:34 <@Dagmar> ...and they were, but it was for the right reasons.
15:34 <@Dagmar> ...and you may note most of that talk just dried up and disappeared when the first large trucks full of money started showing up on publisher doorsteps four months later.
15:35 <@eryc> that's just simple business negotiation
15:35 <@Dagmar> ...and publishers of electronic books are still being pretty damn stupid about it, acting as if it makes sense to charge _more_ for electronic versions of a book.
15:36 <@Dagmar> Instead of being pointlessly greedy and obsessing over short-term gains, Amazon did the research and the math
15:36 <@Dagmar> They made a ridiculous amount of money.
15:36 <@Dagmar> Like, enough that some publishing houses should have been sending trained teams of hookers over to Amazon's HQ
15:37 <@Dagmar> Google did the research and didn't obsess over short-term profits, and made a huge pile of momney
15:37 <@Dagmar> Is *still* making huge piles of money
15:38 <@Dagmar> Buffet knows his economics, does his math, has piles of money you could climb to the top of and get lunar dust samples with... and is just kinda keeping to himself.
15:38 <@Dagmar> :/
15:38 <@Dagmar> I'd honestly like to see the man get interested enough in the economy to bully people into behaving
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16:50 < aestetix_> Dagmar: everyone seems to be obsessing over short term gains right now
16:50 < aestetix_> well except warren buffet, yeah
17:02 < aestetix_> http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2c8uyx/poor_harold/
17:02 < aestetix_> I wonder how much columbine influenced this shit
17:03 < aestetix_> (fart joke misinterpreted as a bomb)
18:01 <@wilpig> I can't recall how many times in highschool I came out of a bathroom saying something along the lines of "you wouldn't believe the bomb I just dropped in there"
18:14 < aestetix_> wilpig: and now you can say that and get a bunch of armed police officers running to inspect your toilet
18:18 <@wilpig> I have a name to blame for adding autoplaying videos to tumblr now
18:18 <@wilpig> the SOB just said "autoplaying video is the greatest thing ever, right?"
18:19 < aestetix_> heh
18:19 < aestetix_> btw, can you say how much disk storage in total tumblr uses?
18:20 <@Corydon76-home> You know he's part of a public company, and such disclosures could impact the stock price.
18:21 < aestetix_> ugh
18:21 <@wilpig> no clue on actual numbers.  I can say shitload does apply
18:21 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: the curiousity is purely engineering, has nothing to do with stock. but yeah
18:22 < aestetix_> wilpig: it does own the whole data center though?
18:22 <@wilpig> no
18:22 < aestetix_> oh
18:22 < aestetix_> ok I feel a little better now
18:22 <@wilpig> the dc we're in is fuckin' huge
18:23 < aestetix_> I was like "how the hell does tumblr occupy an entire data center"
18:23 <@wilpig> the site we're at currently has 8 computer rooms and they are all full.  they are expanding to the phase ii of the site which adds 8 more rooms
18:24 < aestetix_> so much porn and cat videos
18:24 <@wilpig> we occupy a full room.  the largest company out there is new and they occupy two rooms
18:24 < aestetix_> and slash
18:24 < aestetix_> so you basically run a room filled with cat photos and porn
18:25 <@wilpig> that sounds about right
18:25 < aestetix_> So you can say that to girls
18:25 < aestetix_> "What do you do for a living?" "I work in a room full of cat photos and porn"
18:27 <@wilpig> I tell people i'm responsible for filling the internet with animate cat pictures
18:27 < aestetix_> and Dashcon
18:31 <@wilpig> they're gonna host an internet capture the flag
18:31 < aestetix_> huh?
18:40 < aestetix_> http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/31/resy-the-app-that-lets-you-buy-a-reservation-eats-up-2-million-in-seed-funding/
18:40 < aestetix_> this app is despicable
18:42 < aestetix_> "This website is for Resy, a brand new mobile app for people who love eating at great restaurants but hate hassling for reservations."
18:42 < aestetix_> What a huge problem to solve
18:43 <@Shadow404> gahhh, want to get dinner 1/2 mile from house, they dont deliver and its raining, and im to tired to fight traffic in the rain.....
18:43 <@Shadow404> wahhhhhh
18:43 < aestetix_> no it's more like
18:44 < aestetix_> I am showing all my european friends around town, we found a restaurant we want to eat at, all 15 of us, but there is a wait list and the attendant won't just take a bribe
18:44 < aestetix_> oh thank god there's an app now!
18:44 <@Shadow404> heh
18:44 <@Shadow404> doesnt round table already do the same thing?
18:44 < aestetix_> I don't know
18:44 <@Shadow404> why dont they just adapt that?
18:44 < aestetix_> it sounds like this app.... reserves a bunch of seats, and sells them off
18:45 < aestetix_> it's basically scalping reservations
18:45 < aestetix_> Because you're rich enough to afford a night out at a fancy restaurant, but too irresponsible to make a reservation
18:47 < aestetix_> you'll note that none of these apps solve hard problems
18:47 < aestetix_> like the water problem, or the oil/energy problem
18:49 <@Shadow404> heh, true, what do the rich care about those issues
18:50 <@Shadow404> they will have a private island and all the resources stockpiled by then
18:50 < aestetix_> I have an idea for an app
18:50 < aestetix_> It merges change.org with facebook.... and allows you to sign petitions by "liking" them
18:57 <@Bahhumbug> Most petition sites inter-connect with facebook so this isn't a stretch.
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19:06 < aestetix_> http://www.c-span.org/video/?320785-1/hearing-marijuana-use-transportation-policy
19:14 <@Shadow404> gahhh, i always get so drowsy after the adrenaline runs out from the motorcycle ride home
19:14 <@Shadow404> i was all geared up to get shit done when i got home too
19:19 <@Bahhumbug> Snort some blow.
19:20 <@Shadow404> i just might do that
19:26 < aestetix_> butt a putt blug on the seat
19:27 < aestetix_> you'll enjoy every roadbump
20:20 <@Corydon76-home> Shadow404: do what I do after work:  take a nap, then get up and do shit
20:31 <@Shadow404> yeah, but i did get bills done, which didnt require moving around
20:31 <@Shadow404> so that was a plus
20:31 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: sounds like you have exp then?
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21:34 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: I am continuously amused by how many of my friends continue to post links from satirical websites without the slightest clue that they are satire.
21:42 < RangerZ> leave foxnews.com out of this, a lot of people believe what is one there ;)
21:42 < RangerZ> the saddest part is that local news fox is generally of very high quality too
21:43 <@Shadow404> gah, worst part of being tall is painful knees during rain storms
21:44 <@Shadow404> *one of the worst
21:45 <@Shadow404> ever notice how ghyna (sp) on tng always wore the hugest floppiest hat they could put on her
21:48 <@Shadow404> like each season, they found an even larger hat, as if to make a point
21:52 <@Dagmar> Guinan
21:53 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: thx
21:53 < RangerZ> its fucking whoopie goldberg
21:53 < RangerZ> lol
21:53 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: ping, portal 2?
21:53 <@Shadow404> RangerZ: good point, she did play a dancing nun too
21:53 <@Shadow404> so yeah
21:55 <@Dagmar> No, worst of all is when you find out a coworker is a dwarf.
21:55 <@Dagmar> ...and he's like "how could you not tell?"
21:55 <@Dagmar> ...and your only answer is "Everyone looks short to me, man."
21:55 <@Shadow404> we call our dwarf a "smurf"
21:56 <@Shadow404> seriously, she comes up to just at my belly button
21:56 <@Dagmar> Okay now _that_ is insensitive
21:56 <@Shadow404> hehe, she laughs
21:56 <@Shadow404> just for kicks, ill youtube the smurf theme song
21:56 <@Dagmar> ...and now I'm going to try to not say something both insensitive _and_ sexist
21:56 <@Shadow404> lawl
21:56 <@Shadow404> "try"
21:56 < RangerZ> its a hard task
21:56 < RangerZ> just tell her to never wear pig tails...
21:57 < RangerZ> lol
21:57 <@Dagmar> I shoudln't even have to type it because someone at your office has probably already risked the ire of HR by doing so.
21:57 <@Shadow404> aestetix_: pong
21:57 <@Shadow404> er ping
21:57 <@Shadow404> Dagmar: heh
22:02 < RangerZ> I For one want to console the house republicans, they have to work a single day in the month of aug.
22:02 < RangerZ> it must be so hard
22:03 < RangerZ> but thankfully only one day planned so far... lol
22:03 <@Shadow404> not to negate your point, but they have to have eetings at certain times
22:03 <@Shadow404> *meetings
22:04 < RangerZ> ohh I completely agree, except they now spend 80% of their time fundraising
22:04 <@Shadow404> true
22:04 < RangerZ> so "going home" = fundraise at home
22:05 <@Shadow404> heh
22:05 <@Dagmar> "fundraising"... That's an interesting euphemism.
22:06 < RangerZ> well until the scotus declares prostitition being "speaking with a prostitite" because "money = speech"
22:07 <@Dagmar> :D
22:07 <@Dagmar> I never thought of it like that before
22:10 <@Shadow404> cause im lazy, when is pn '14?
22:12 <@Dagmar> I think you missed it, man
22:12 <@Dagmar> 'bout four years ago
22:12 <@Shadow404> '14 = 2014
22:13 <@Dagmar> You're getting as bad as aestetix
22:13 <@Dagmar> It6's 2014 now.
22:13 <@Dagmar> This will be PhreakNic 18.
22:13 <@Shadow404> ....
22:13 <@Dagmar> ;)
22:13 <@Dagmar> Halloween Weekend
22:14 <@Shadow404> you know jx never did respond to my speaking topic
22:14 <@Shadow404> oh well
22:14 <@Shadow404> oct 30th
22:14 <@Shadow404> hrmm, ill see if i can make it this year
22:14 <@Dagmar> Send another email to him at the RFP address
22:15 <@Shadow404> pm that
22:15 <@Dagmar> If I knew what it was, sure
22:15 <@Shadow404> ah....
22:16 <@Dagmar> Lookin now
22:17 <@Dagmar> Oh.  Jonnyx@gmail.com
22:17 <@Dagmar> derp
22:17 <@Shadow404> yeah, i cc'ed that
22:18 <@Shadow404> oh well, my talk on spaceflight 101 can find antoher venue
22:18 <@Shadow404> was gona cover concepts and history and future
22:20 < RangerZ> http://phreaknic.info/pn18/ glad to see the udpated site... i mean...
22:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: PhreakNIC 18, Halloween weekend, Nashville (at phreaknic.info)
22:35 < oddball> On similar note... did I just overlook the "there's a meeting tomorrow" email?
22:36 <@wilpig> RangerZ: I'm sure there's a very relevant excu...errr  reason why it hasn't been done
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22:37 <@wilpig> Shadow404: you never emailed him
22:38 <@Shadow404> bs
22:38 <@Shadow404> one sec
22:39 <@Dagmar> Oh look a meeting announcement
22:39 <@wilpig> hehe
22:39 <@Shadow404> wilpig: email
22:39 <@wilpig> Shadow404: I'm just giving you the excuse
22:39 <@Dagmar> It *is* the same time every month
22:40 <@Shadow404> heh
22:40 <@Shadow404> well thats proof
22:41 <@Shadow404> and this is?
22:41 <@oddball> Dagmar: Well, clearly, I wasn't the one that needed a reminder, but... :)
22:42 <@wilpig> I will not be attending a meeting tomorrow
22:42 <@wilpig> I will instead be at coney island getting sloshed on free booze then sobering up on the boardwalk before I head home
22:42  * oddball has been part of an org where the head hancho failed to show up because no one reminded him of the regularly scheduled meeting.
22:42 <@Shadow404> wilpig: he didnt sanitize the name at all?
22:51 < RangerZ> Dagmar: lulz @ your email
22:52 < RangerZ> MFer... I HATE going through 30/60+ years of paperwork
22:52 < RangerZ> found an original copy of the blueprints of the federal courthouse back home... probalby should return those to the clerk of courts...
22:53 <@Corydon76-home> In other news, Cal just tried expanding Nashville CoderFaire to Tennessee CoderFaire, including making Dave Ramsey a sponsor, doubling the early bird registration fee, with no schedule, and I think he's wondering why nobody is registering.
22:53 < RangerZ> (true story actually, my grandfather was the architect & signing engineer, the clerk's eyes bugged out of her head)
22:54 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: any secret passageways out of the judge's chamber?
22:55 < RangerZ> not that I can speak of, I was only 13 at the time, and only skimmed through it
22:55 < RangerZ> didn't learn draftsman skills until I was in HS
23:01 < RangerZ> Corydon76-home: did you see this ?https://gist.github.com/jorendorff/a80009bde74b9327b5f3
23:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: call-for-talks.md (at gist.github.com)
23:02 < RangerZ> Nashville Systems Programming Day
23:08 < RangerZ> Corydon76-home: Glad he emailed vandy's CS dept and let them know... (not)
23:08 < RangerZ> and 60$ for a 'faire' of any type is pretty steep
23:08 <@Dagmar> Another visit from Java... the mouthiest tortoishell cat ever
23:09 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling the reason she comes to my place is that i pet her and her owners are probably tossing her out for a bit when she gets like this
23:09 <@Dagmar> I can't tell what she wants
23:09 <@Dagmar> It's not food, and it's not water...
23:09 <@Dagmar> lol and she's trying to pry my storm door open right now
23:10 <@oddball> Wait... there's apparently a food place near the intersection of Haywood ln and Nolensville where you're dropping at least $20 a palte for dinner?
23:11 <@Dagmar> This cat is so cantankerous
23:11 <@Dagmar> She'll _hiss_ at me
23:12 <@Dagmar> I'll pick her up, pet her, she'll be happy for a few moments, I start walking her back to her owner's apartment and she's all "Fuck you!  Put me down.  *hiss*"
23:12 <@Dagmar> I put her down and she'll sit right there meowing at me
23:12 <@Dagmar> Imma have to talk to her owners this weekend and find out what the deal is with her
23:12 < RangerZ> obviously she wants your lov'n
23:12 <@Dagmar> I feel like a big meanie for not letting her stay
23:13 <@Dagmar> ...but she's not my cat and I don't want her owners to worry
23:13 < RangerZ> "mission accomplished"
23:13 <@Dagmar> Maybe I should let her see the cleaning robot in action
23:14 <@Dagmar> If she comes over to meow at me this weekend I'm going to do a doorstep delivery and ask "Okay.  What is it your cat wants?"
23:15 <@Dagmar> I really do get the feeling they might be putting her out because she's acting crazy
23:15 <@Dagmar> ...but now it seems like she comes straight to my door when they do that.  hehe
23:15 <@Dagmar> She did it in front of the landlady last week
23:16 <@Dagmar> I'm like "No, honestly I've told you.  I don't have a cat.  This one isn't mine.  She just apparently thinks she lives here now."
23:16 <@Dagmar> Landlady: "Oh no, you can have a kitty they're sweet."
23:16 <@Dagmar> "Seriously, this cat is not mine."
23:17 < RangerZ> "ok, sure it is" must have been her thought bubble
23:17 < RangerZ> is it that one that snuck in and slept on your bed for a few hours and left a cat shaped indent
23:18 <@oddball> Dagmar: Didn't you know?  Cats adopt their humans, not the other way around.
23:18 <@Dagmar> Nope.  This is a different cat.
23:19 <@Dagmar> oddball: Well, this one's pretty damn aggressive about it
23:19 <@Dagmar> ...and I mean *really* aggressive about it
23:19 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling she hisses at me because she's saying "Oh you are not getting rid of me that easily, asshole"
23:20 <@Dagmar> I will video the next visit and you will see what i mean about "mouthy"
23:21 <@oddball> Oh, one of our cats like to wander around the house apparently having a conversation with himself.
23:21 <@oddball> And my mom's cat talks in his sleep.
23:22 <@Dagmar> Well, this one just talks non-stop
23:22 <@Dagmar> She'll be sitting in my lap... "Meow.  Meooow.  Mew.  Meeeeow."
23:22 <@Dagmar> She'll wander around my apartment and I can tell where she is
23:23 <@Dagmar> She's not quite like Lindsey's colorpoint shorthair, with it's 100+ different vocalizations that make it sound like a derelict
23:23 <@Dagmar> It's basically a continuous stream of normal cat meows
23:24 <@Dagmar> ...and honesly I have never seen a cat hiss at me _while it's purring_ because I'm petting it before
23:24 <@Dagmar> I begin to suspect brain damage.  I really do.
23:24 <@Dagmar> ...or insanity.
23:24 <@Dagmar> Not sure it's appropriate to use that word in the context of cats tho
23:26 < RangerZ> "generally normal behavior, which is incomprehendable to humans"
23:26 <@Dagmar> Precisely
23:26 <@Dagmar> ...but I'm used to cats behaving, you know, relatively cat-like.
23:26 < RangerZ> could just be smarter
23:26 <@Dagmar> This one... I'm not sure it's motivation is really in sync with it's environment
23:26 < RangerZ> and knows that if you put it down, you can't continue to pet it
23:27 <@oddball> It's possible that its hoomins aren't giving it any attention.
23:27 <@Dagmar> WEll, like I said, I think they're kicking it out when it starts acting crazy and won't shut up
23:28 <@Dagmar> I'm sure the neighbors are probably thinking *I'm* crazy now
23:28 <@Dagmar> I'm walking around talking to the cat
23:28 < RangerZ> "now" he says
23:28 < RangerZ> ;)
23:28 <@oddball> oh... wait... most tortoise shell cats are female.  I wonder if it's going into heat.
23:28 <@Dagmar> "Why are you hissing at me?  What do you want?"  *sits down next to cat and continues petting it*
23:29 <@Dagmar> Maybe, I dunno
23:29 <@Dagmar> GENERALLY they have better target acquisition than that
23:29 <@oddball> Good amount of writhing?
23:29 <@Dagmar> A little butt-sticking-up but that's about it
23:29 <@oddball> hmmm...
23:32 <@wilpig> why would you be crazy for walking around talking ot a cat?  I do it all the time.
23:33 <@Dagmar> Well, for one, because it's not my cat.
23:33 <@Dagmar> For the other, the cat talks _constantly_
23:33 <@Dagmar> We might as well be having a conversation
23:34 <@wilpig> if penny could meow like a real cat she'd it'd sound like she was contatntly chattering
23:38 <@Dagmar> I should be ashamed for even entertaining this notion but the cat may be up to something else
23:38 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure it's two single girls who live in that condo
23:41 < RangerZ> best wingman cat ever
23:41 < RangerZ> lol
23:42 <@Dagmar> Too right
23:43 <@wilpig> time to crash.  tomorrow will be an adventure!
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