--- Log opened Mon Jul 14 00:00:50 2014
00:07 <@klixa> i ate ice cream in the snow while wearing shorts once :P
00:08 < RangerZ> crazy
00:08 < RangerZ> ;)
00:08 < RangerZ> but not  crazypants level
00:08 < RangerZ> so you're alright
00:08 <@klixa> yeah, i dont wanna be vrtazypants level
00:08 <@klixa> i heard she was drunk and molesting Dagmar the other night
00:09 < RangerZ> she was muttering something like "women can't rape men... only the other way around... so its alright"
00:09 <@klixa> bleh
00:10 <@klixa> she needs smacked
00:10 <@klixa> next time i am in nashville i will do it
00:10 < RangerZ> then touching dagmar in 'we were surprised at how calm he was' ways... and then complaining about how all men do is send dick picks to her
00:10 < RangerZ> and we all looked around to each other and shook our heads no...
00:10 < RangerZ> hehe
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00:11 <@klixa> yeah, the only people sending her dick pics are the ones shes emailing begging for them
00:11 <@klixa> cause... men just dont do that unless asked
00:12 <@Bahhumbug> Most guys I know wouldn't do it _if_ asked, either.
00:13 <@klixa> i can believe that
00:15 < RangerZ|Laptop1> even Corydon76-home said he's only sent them to guys who have asked
00:16 < RangerZ|Laptop1> so that covers our token gay guy POV too
00:16 <@klixa> yeah, its just not a common thing
00:17 <@klixa> i mean, maybe tootally sleezy creepy guys do it...but women in their right mind avoid them
00:17 < RangerZ|Laptop1> hey, even us totally sleezy creepy guys don't do i
00:17 < RangerZ|Laptop1> it
00:17 < RangerZ|Laptop1> lol
00:17 <@klixa> you are neither sleexy nor creepy :P
00:18 < RangerZ|Laptop1> better change my dating profile then
00:18 < RangerZ|Laptop1> that might explain why no hits
00:18 < RangerZ|Laptop1> hmmm
00:18 <@klixa> hahah
00:19 <@Dagmar> lol
00:19 <@Dagmar> I don't know what's with the women on the dating sites
00:19 <@Dagmar> I put right on there "Not a serial killer" and no reaction
00:19 <@Dagmar> I think Tinder is a matchmaking system for stock photos
00:20 < RangerZ|Laptop1> ^-----  ++
00:20 <@klixa> Dagmar: well, here is my best guess. personally i find somethign like that funny...and i have been told i am some kinda of outcast freak anomoly...meaning most women probably woudl not think its funny
00:20 < RangerZ|Laptop1> well something like 30% of FB accounts are fake
00:21 <@Dagmar> From what I overhear in bars what I need to put on there would be a lie
00:21 <@Dagmar> "I drink a lot and hit women"
00:21 <@Dagmar> "...also, I may or may not be in jail when you read this"
00:22 <@klixa> depends on that kinda girl you wanna attract
00:22 <@Dagmar> Maybe I should hold up a card that says "Sup /b/"
00:22 <@Dagmar> That seems a popular tactic on the web
00:22 <@klixa> lmfao
00:22 <@Dagmar> lol
00:22 <@Dagmar> Actually I'll probably do that after I cut my hair next time
00:25 <@Bahhumbug> After "you" cut your hair?
00:25 <@Bahhumbug> That may explain the lack of hits on dating sites?
00:25 <@Dagmar> Nope
00:25 <@Dagmar> I actually do a really good job
00:25 <@Dagmar> I've been doing that for about ten years now
00:26 <@Dagmar> I got tired of getting weird, unattractive haircuts, and since I keep my hair short to the point where all one really needs is clippers, I bought some clippers.
00:27 <@Dagmar> This is also why I basically just need "an excuse" to up and shave my head
00:27 <@klixa> well, theres always "crazypants"
00:27 <@Dagmar> NO
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00:28 <@klixa> all my male friends on dating sites have no luck... women get multiple messages daily and dont respond to most
00:29 <@klixa> and all of these guys are totally worth dating
00:37 < RangerZ|Laptop1> thats why i'd make a dating site where women had to message first
00:37 < RangerZ|Laptop1> b/c they have done studies, that when women have to do more work to talk to guys, (in speed dating they are the ones that move) that women are more likely to want to talk further
00:39 < RangerZ|Laptop1> but i have no idea how to apply that to gays or lesbians... let alone the rest of the new PC alphabet soup
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01:20 < aestetix_> klixa: I've gotten lucky twice off okcupid actually
01:21 <@klixa> aestetix_: well, you are younger and more attractive than most of the men i know
01:21 < aestetix_> awww although you don't need to be so mean to Bahhumbug
01:22 <@klixa> you
01:22 <@klixa> lol
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01:22 <@klixa> aestetix_: tho one guy i know is 25...but hes a total nerd
01:23 <@klixa> hes ok looking, but wears super thick glasses
01:24 < aestetix_> how old are most men you know
01:24 <@klixa> well, other than my 20 year old irc boyfreind... and that 25 year old... 30+
01:24 < aestetix_> wow you're a cougar
01:25 <@klixa> its kinda a joke we have...hes german
01:25 <@klixa> and lives in germany
01:25 < aestetix_> do you have cybersex with him?
01:29 <@klixa> no...actually my quit message is german for no cyber sex
01:29 <@klixa> lol
01:29 < aestetix_> but yeah sites like okcupid I found in the end were kind of worthless
01:29 < aestetix_> wow I just got an idea
01:29 < aestetix_> the best way to stop gentrification is to pay black people to move into rich parts of cities
01:29 < aestetix_> anyways back to sex
01:29 < aestetix_> klixa: why do women never reach out to guys on those sites?
01:30 <@klixa> aestetix_: women do reach out sometimes
01:32 <@klixa> i had a okc profile cause that 25 year old wanted to show me some girls he was messaging...and i talked ot 2 guys while on it...and i still talk to both guys
01:32 <@klixa> i out only intrested in friends tho..and i wasnt looking for anything more than that... um, romantically i woulnt chase some guy...but i  wouldnt use a daitng site ether
01:32 <@klixa> men go after what they want... and if they arent going after you, it usually means they dont want you... so, its better to let the man come to you
01:32 <@klixa> out=put*
01:32 < aestetix_> so much for feminism
01:32 <@klixa> feminsim cant change biology
01:32 <@klixa> either a man is attracted to you or he isnt
01:33 < aestetix_> right but
01:33 <@klixa> and unless he is ETREMELY shy, he will pursue you if hes attracted
01:33 < aestetix_> we live in an age where if a guy pursues you you report him for harasment
01:33 <@klixa> i dont knwo any women like that and i have never been like that
01:33 <@klixa> have you personally been accsued of harassment aestetix_?
01:34 < aestetix_> no, but I've been accused of oppressive behavior
01:34 < aestetix_> because I was daring enough to disagree with someone
01:36 <@klixa> i disagree with peopel all teh time
01:37 <@klixa> what i hate is the whole PC thing...where ok, lets say you think homosexuality is wrong... its bad for you to say that but its ok for people to call you names, and claim you are intolerant
01:38 <@klixa> its like, intolerance against intolerance is ok...
01:38 <@klixa> it irks me
01:39 <@Dagmar> Jeez
01:39 <@Dagmar> Heat lightning already
01:44 <@klixa> aestetix_: anyway, i guess my thoughts on the matter are f the girl is gonan accuse you of harassment, etc..shes not the kinda girl you or anyone wants anyway
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05:33 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: http://i.imgur.com/pxThuz5.jpg?1
07:27 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:30  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
08:24  * opticron refuses to tolerate klixa's intolerance of those who are intolerant of intolerance
08:31 <@wilpig> opticron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqTvN_jddaM
08:31 <@GateKeeper> Title: Hate Times Eight + LYRICS [Official] by PSYCHOSTICK - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
09:01 < aestetix_> wassup
09:05 < aestetix_> so
09:05 < aestetix_> it seems like my ipad 2 has been running sluggishly lately
09:05 < aestetix_> is that because iOS 7 is bloated?
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09:10 < aestetix_> oh wired
09:10 < aestetix_> "Why Apple’s Swift Language Will Instantly Remake Computer Programming"
09:10 < aestetix_> http://www.wired.com/2014/07/apple-swift/
09:10 < aestetix_> really?!
09:15 <@wilpig> jesus christ.  I'm about to turn my ad blockers back on.  this is ridiculous
09:16 <@wilpig> http://kotaku.com/and-then-dj-jazzy-jeff-had-a-super-mario-bros-remix-ba-1600664676  between this autoplaying video overlay
09:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: And Then DJ Jazzy Jeff Had A Super Mario Bros. Remix Battle (at kotaku.com)
09:16 <@wilpig> and this page covering shit.  that comes up on every fucking link.  http://geekologie.com/
09:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: Geekologie - Gadgets, Gizmos, and Awesome (at geekologie.com)
09:24 < aestetix_> hmm
09:24 < aestetix_> apparnetly getting more than 20 hours of sleep makes you awake and alert
09:26 <@wilpig> that has been known to happen
09:26 < aestetix_> btw
09:27 < aestetix_> one talk you should check out at HOPE
09:27 < aestetix_> http://x.hope.net/schedule.html#technology
09:27 < aestetix_> it's a late addition, but looks epic
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09:43 < RangerZ|Laptop1> wilpig: honestly both of them weren't that good, and they didn't mix it WITH anything, so there isn't that much you can do with a single song... especially an old 8bit song like Mario's theme
09:52 <@oddball> wilpig: You turned your adblocker off?
09:53 <@wilpig> on my tumblr laptop, yes
09:53 <@oddball> There are many newspaper sites that I can't go to without adblocker on.
09:54 < aestetix_> yep
09:54 <@Dolemite> Anything by Gannett (Tennessean, Knox News Sentinel, Chattanooga Free Press)
09:54 < aestetix_> at this point, sad as it is, browsing the web without an adblocker is a little like unprotected sex with a stranger
09:54 <@Dolemite> aestetix_: I'm not a stranger.  *wink*
09:55 < aestetix_> Dolemite: I wouldn't want to rob Corydon76-home of the pleasure of your company
09:55 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I like today's LFG
10:02 < RangerZ|Laptop1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfgSEwjAeno john oliver is going to take over for colbert so hard...
10:02 <@GateKeeper> Title: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Wealth Gap (HBO) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
10:02 < RangerZ|Laptop1> his show is so much better... because he really well covers a single topic
10:10 <@Dagmar> I guess it's time I bought a Raspberry Pi
10:11 <@Dagmar> The B+ is crazy for $35
10:12 <@wilpig> the new lower power one with 4 usb ports?
10:13 <@oddball> Nai has told me that I have to come up with an actually reason before buying one.  Apparently "it's neat and I want to play with one" isn't good enough.
10:13 <@wilpig> oddball: it run xbmc pretty good
10:13 <@wilpig> mine is a 3ds streetpass relay
10:14 <@Dagmar> Yours is a B.
10:14 < critch_> Dagmar: skip the Pi, go for Beaglebone Black
10:14 <@Dagmar> $35.
10:14 < critch_> BBB is only $10 more, faster CPU, and onboard flash
10:15 < critch_> Plus it isn't a broadcom cpu
10:15 <@Dagmar> B+ has an actual microSD card slot
10:15 < critch_> So does BBB
10:16 <@Dagmar> Not according to their website
10:16 <@oddball> wilpig: Yeah... bit the one TV we have already has a Roku2 hooked up to it and we're running Plex.
10:16 < critch_> BBB ships with Debian preinstalled on 4gb onboard flash.
10:16 <@Dagmar> ...and you need to work on your math.  $55 - $35 != $10
10:16 < RangerZ|Laptop1> Dagmar: yeah BBB is much nicer
10:16 < RangerZ|Laptop1> friend of mine was the one who wrote the linux drivers for it
10:17 <@Dagmar> THe things I'd be doing with it, the B+ would be overpowered for already
10:17 < RangerZ|Laptop1> so? over powered = extra things you can do with it later
10:17 < RangerZ|Laptop1> lol
10:17 < critch_> Guess they added another $10 when they added 2gb more flash
10:19 < critch_> and while not a big deal, BBB is made in the US.
10:21 < critch_> If you want to go way overkill, you should look at Radxa Rock.
10:22 < critch_> Dagmar: http://makezine.com/magazine/how-to-choose-the-right-platform-raspberry-pi-or-beaglebone-black/
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10:43 <@opticron> or super overkill IFC6410
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10:58 <@shapr> yow!
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11:21 < aestetix_> Heh
11:21 < aestetix_> He announced it on Facebook
11:21 < aestetix_> https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=790031907685317&id=132688066753041
11:23 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING
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12:13 <@wilpig> oh hell yeah.  just made my life a little easier with some google fu
12:13 <@wilpig> =if(RIGHT(I236,1)="2", CONCATENATE("Panel 2 - Port ", RIGHT(E236,1)+24), CONCATENATE("Panel 3 - Port ", RIGHT(E236,1)))  <-- that just filled in all my port assignments for my labels
12:16 <@wilpig> W...T....F....?
12:16 <@wilpig> http://www.dashcon.org/
12:16 <@GateKeeper> Title: DashCon (at www.dashcon.org)
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12:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> " A safe space " aka... some place none of us would bother going to... except for easy marks... i mean...
12:21 <@wilpig> how can you hav ea con dedicated to tumblr though?
12:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> easy
12:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats like asking how you can have a con dedicated to blizzard
12:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> its a group of people who like one thing, and go to talk about it
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12:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> "All attendees are responsible for producing a photo ID at the time of badge pick up or when registering for the convention at the door. " maybe we can enact this rule to scare off aestetix_ ....
12:23 <@wilpig> at least blizzard ran their own con, and it is setup to feature the content they produce
12:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> a weapons check room...
12:24 <@wilpig> when cosplay is involved...
12:24 <@oddball> Hell, there was a con dedicated to Invader Zim a few years after the show went off the air.
12:24 < RangerZ|Laptop> "Alcohol is not allowed in convention events.  "
12:24 <@wilpig> some jackass might show up with a 7' bastard sword and won't want to lug it around all day
12:25 <@oddball> wilpig: That's their problem.  Don't want to carry it around?  Take it back to your room or car.
12:25 < RangerZ|Laptop> pretty much
12:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> god... I want to go to this con... just to point out the flaws in their logic in the 'rules'
12:26 < RangerZ|Laptop> they contradict themselves in several places
12:27 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ|Laptop: I did that once to a feminist convention meant to "establish a dialogue"
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12:28 <@Corydon76-home> They shut off communication, because I pointed out that establishing a dialogue was incompatible with their resolution to throw out anybody who offended
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12:30 <@oddball> wait... they have a panel specifically going over the rules of the con?
12:30 < aestetix_> RangerZ|Laptop: if PhreakNIC enacts a rule like that, you can be assured I won't go again.
12:30 <@Corydon76-home> That's how you know the rules are too complicated
12:31 <@opticron> super soaker full of cheap sugary wine coolers
12:31 <@Corydon76-home> It's also why retaining the right to throw anybody out at any time for any reason is smarter.
12:31 < aestetix_> The whole bit about requiring photo id for a conference is bullshit.
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12:31 < aestetix_> I was particularly unimpressed with how DragonCon handled that.
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12:32 <@oddball> Other than that, it looks like they're basically running a scifi con and marketing it to Tumblr users.
12:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> why not
12:33 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: did they explicitly say "issued by a government"?
12:33 < aestetix_> Who?
12:33 < aestetix_> DragonCon?
12:33 <@Corydon76-home> Right
12:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> or the dashcon
12:33 <@oddball> aestetix_: I was thinking that was pretty much only for pre-reg to make sure you were picking up a badge that belonged to you.
12:33 < aestetix_> DashCon says that
12:33 <@oddball> I'm trying to remember if Dragoncon also has a different badge for minors or not.
12:33 < aestetix_> Also, DragonCon goes the step farther by pushing your legal name on your dragoncon badge
12:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> "School IDs, Military IDs, Driver's Licenses, passports,  and other valid photo ID will be accepted."
12:34 <@Corydon76-home> There's more than one government in the world... I suspect you could get one of them to issue you an ID that says "aestetix"
12:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> "Children under 5 are not required to have a badge, but must be with a 18 or over parent/guardian throughout the weekend. " and "ALL AGES: YOU MUST HAVE A VALID ID WITH YOU AT THE TIME OF REGISTRATION."
12:34 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: I've actually been working on that
12:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> wait...
12:34 <@oddball> aestetix_: Yeah... I agree with you on that.  Especially since I think the year you went they actually had your legal name in a larger font than your "badge name."
12:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> my 4 y/o doesn't have a 'valid' ID
12:34 < aestetix_> oddball: yep. That's why I won't ever go back.
12:34 < aestetix_> Unless they change that.
12:35 <@Corydon76-home> If your 4yo doesn't have an ID, how do they verify that the person they're with is actually a parent or guardian?
12:35 < aestetix_> You'd think that people running a scifi conference would understand the importance of having multiple identities
12:35 <@oddball> I'd have to look at last year's badge, but I'm pretty sure that they at least changed that.  Although, I bleive your legal name was still printed.
12:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> lets be honest.... if they let our fearless leader be in charge of a track for years... there is obviously something wrong with dragoncon ;)
12:36 <@oddball> The folks that run Dragoncon are kind of known for making and sticking with some fucked up decisions.
12:36 < aestetix_> The best I can gather is that the conferences are using this as an easy way to deal with complicated problems, or they are stupid.
12:36 <@shapr> yow!
12:36 <@Corydon76-home> oddball: you mean like the known pedophile?
12:37 <@oddball> Examples: how they've treated the entire filk track in the past, not inviting Voltaire until the last minute last year, deciding Cherrie Priest wasn't an author while she was on the best seller's list...
12:37 <@oddball> Corydon76-home: Which hasn't been involved in the convention in something like 20 years?
12:37 < aestetix_> I mean
12:38 < aestetix_> Let's say I'm a chick at an anime con who has an internet stalker
12:38 < aestetix_> Having my legal name plastered on my badge makes it really convenient for that stalker to find me
12:38 <@oddball> And they finally managed to get his financial interest in the con dealt with last year.  He no longer has any ties with the con.
12:38 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: why not have the sex change, so you can be an actual chick at an anime con?
12:38 < aestetix_> lol
12:38 <@oddball> heh
12:39 < aestetix_> Also
12:39 < aestetix_> Let's say someone takes photos at Dragoncon
12:39 < aestetix_> And uploads those photos to flickr. And there are all these hot chicks... with their badges... that have their legal names
12:39 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: Uh, finding a person with a particular badge name at any con isn't that easy
12:39 <@Corydon76-home> They're more likely to be looking for a face, not a badge
12:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> he meant the other way around
12:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> found the person, then found out their name
12:39 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: the point is, it's PII
12:40 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ|Laptop: but a stalker would already know that
12:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> maybe/maybe not
12:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> a lot of cosplayers are very secretive about that, for just this reason
12:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> FFS... my friend got crank calls, and panties sent to his house when people THOUGHT he was a girl playing FFXI
12:41 <@oddball> RangerZ|Laptop: And even better!  The Dragoncon badges have the town you live in printed on the badge under your name!
12:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> and _he_ wasn't
12:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> wtf
12:41 < aestetix_> does Dragoncon have narcs?
12:41 < aestetix_> Or undercover cops posing in costume?
12:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> yes
12:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> just dragoncon doesn't know it
12:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
12:41 < aestetix_> well
12:42 < aestetix_> it seems like they are making some of the same mistakes burning man has been making
12:42 < aestetix_> and burning man is filled to the brim with narcs now
12:42 < aestetix_> Although burning man doen't require you to wear a badge with your legal name on it
12:42 <@oddball> aestetix_: Nope, but they do have private security and actual cops in uniform everywhere.
12:43 <@oddball> Oh... and can't forget the 501st, which has a large contigent of cops/military in their ranks.
12:43 < aestetix_> Maybe I should just blame the millennials for this
12:43 <@oddball> heh
12:44 <@oddball> And just about all the problems that happen at Dragon are caused by the drunk football fans, not congoers.
12:48 < aestetix_> So instead of actually dealing with the problem, Dragoncon decided to fuck over all their attendees?
12:48 <@oddball> With the legal name thing?  They probably don't see it as fucking over anyone.
12:49 < aestetix_> I wonder what would happen if they made it optional.
12:49 <@Corydon76-home> The only people they're really fucking over are pedantics like aestetix, so really, where's the loss?
12:51 <@oddball> Yep.  Given that the attendance keeps going up, that decision is clearly not hurting them.
12:52 < aestetix_> There's something to be said for the spirit of it :)
12:54 <@Corydon76-home> The spirit of getting pedantic people to stay away and not irritate the fuck out of paying congoers?  What's the downside?
12:54 < aestetix_> I love you too.
12:55 <@Corydon76-home> You know, you could always go, just to spite them.
12:56 <@Corydon76-home> If they're conspiring to keep you away, the most revolutionary thing you could do is to show up
12:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> and give them lots of money
12:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> to just spite them
12:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
12:58 < aestetix_> on an unrelated note
12:59 < aestetix_> I'm pretty amused by the creative ways in which reporters are nonchalantly asking for interviews with Ed Snowden
12:59 < aestetix_> like sending a list of speakers they want interviews with and sort of sandwiching snowden in the middle like we won't notice
12:59 <@Corydon76-home> BTW, aestetix, PhreakNIC is conspiring to keep you from being a sponsor.  So you should spite them and pay $10k and be a presenting sponsor.
12:59 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: I'd have to work a lot of corners to do that.
13:00 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: I know you have it in you... or if you don't, go down on the corner, and you soon will have it in...
13:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> drew made up a name for that level... well drew and crazy pants
13:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> also.. wasn't that sexual harassment on her part? or is it impossible for her to sexually harass a male ?
13:01 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: have you ever popped a zit on your ass?
13:02 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: No, when you popped that one with your teeth, that was the first and only one.
13:02 < aestetix_> There was a lot of pus
13:03 <@Corydon76-home> Question is, spit or swallow?
13:03 < aestetix_> vaporized
13:04 <@wilpig> what was the name for that level RangerZ|Laptop ?  "LOL"
13:04 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ|Laptop: we're conspiring with this conversation to have you skip lunch
13:07 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: if your ass zits make enough puss, we could make RangerZ|Laptop a smoothie and he would be plenty well fed
13:09 < RangerZ|Laptop> wilpig: do you honestly not know? ohh dagmar "loved" it....  it was 'have Dagmar blow you' level
13:10 <@wilpig> that wasn't in the minutes
13:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah... for good reason
13:11 <@Corydon76-home> http://mashable.com/2014/07/14/raspberry-pi-b-plus/
13:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> yeah saw the newark14 email
13:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'd love to get my raPi to actually play 1080p mkvs properly
13:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> might need to play with it again now that software has 'hopefully' improved
13:14 <@Corydon76-home> Their video has bloopers at the end
13:15 <@Dolemite> So is there enough content for this year to have 4 days of PhreakNIC, or is the beta website just showing wishful thinking?
13:16 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: they're planning on multiple tracks
13:16 <@Corydon76-home> Talk track, workshop track, NLUG track
13:16 <@Dolemite> Multiple tracks over 4 days?  That's a heck of a lot of speakers.
13:16 <@wilpig> we planned multiple tracks the last few years
13:18 <@Corydon76-home> I think the first day has always been more about logistics than talks, and the last day is more about cleanup than talks
13:18 <@oddball> I'm just curious how many people actually show up Thursday.
13:18 <@wilpig> not how the site reads
13:19 <@wilpig> oddball: the last couple of years we've had anywhere from 5 - 15 show up thursday night
13:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> my understanding is that thursday is for legality to 'offer training' for the vice president (can never remember his god forsaken name)'s company
13:21 <@wilpig> that isn't a conflict of interest at all....
13:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> plus then they can have a reason for people to pay the 500$ to get it to the point to where its a write-off for work training
13:21 <@oddball> Ah, right.  Yeah.. he's planning on offering cert training in... ummm... something.
13:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> "titanium" something
13:22 <@oddball> wilpig: Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  Which, well, isn't really enough to warrant programing on Thursday/early Friday morning.  I'd rather see programming on Sunday morning.
13:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> ohh god... app accelerator
13:23 < RangerZ|Laptop> codex labs... thats the name of it
13:26 < Shadow404> wilpig: trace my login ip :)
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13:27 <@Dolemite> Ok, so it's really just Friday/Saturday, with Thursday being the Codex Labs "track" (training) and Sunday being the hangover recovery day.
13:27 <@Dolemite> That sounds a lot more doable
13:30 <@Dolemite> However, to avoid conflict of interest, it would make more sense to have PhreakNIC Fri-Sun, and the training event as a coincidentally-at-the-same-lcoation event on Thursday
13:30 <@Dolemite> Just my $0.02
13:30 <@Dolemite> It's how a lot of other commercial/public partnerships work
13:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> who cares about conflict of interest, none of us are stupid enough to be legally associated with PN, no one is silly enough to still be associated with it now
13:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehe *pokes those still associated*
13:31 <@Dolemite> Now hang on, RangerZ|Laptop.  I'm trying to be positive and supportive.
13:31 <@oddball> Dolemite: How would it be a conflict of interest?
13:31 <@Corydon76-home> Technically, nobody is legally associated other than the officers
13:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> that its codex labs employee making this decision to host a codex labs event that they will make money
13:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> etc
13:32 <@Dolemite> oddball: It's an activity that wold directly benefit Codex Labs, whose President/CEO/whatever is also an officer of Nashville 2600 Corporation, which produces PhreakNIC
13:32 <@oddball> ah, ok
13:33 < aestetix_> You know
13:33 < aestetix_> I'm tempted to submit a talk to PhreakNIC called "Hacking Ejaculation"
13:33 < aestetix_> just to fuck with crazy
13:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> nah... "how hacking culture is male geek culture"
13:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> subtitle "and thats how it should be"
13:33 < aestetix_> haha
13:33 <@Corydon76-home> As long as the money doesn't flow through Nashville 2600 and as long as rent for the space is negotiated independently, it shouldn't be a problem
13:33 < aestetix_> or "The gold standard of the straight white male"
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13:34 <@wilpig> it's still a conflict of interest even if the money isn't flowing through the organization.  it's exploiting the event and the prenegotiated contract for benefit of a private company
13:35 < aestetix_> ohh
13:35 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: Uh, all sponsorships of the event in the past matched that latter criteria.
13:35 <@oddball> Even if they're listed as a sponsor and paying PN?
13:35 <@Dolemite> wilpig: No, if it's paid for separately and not an actual part of PhreakNIC, there's no conflict of interest
13:35 <@oddball> Isn't that sort of the point of sponsorship?
13:35 <@wilpig> what did the sponsors get before?
13:36 <@wilpig> they weren't directly making money from thew event, that is
13:36 <@Corydon76-home> Sponsors got their names associated with the event, as well as admission, and they were free to make money at the event, in the way of vendors
13:36 <@wilpig> anyone was free to be a vendor at the con
13:37 < aestetix_> "Male is to female as master is to slave; learning patriarchy through database engineering"
13:37 <@wilpig> the sponsors got a little advertising and nothing else
13:37 <@Corydon76-home> so the key would be to ensure that other companies have the same opportunity
13:37 <@wilpig> free meeting space for all companies interested!  good plan!  might as well change the name to something liek the consumer electronics show and call for more vendors too
13:38 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: I'm not planning on the space being free for Codex Labs
13:39 <@Corydon76-home> Like I said, the key is to make sure that Andrew doesn't have a voice in that on our side, so it's negotiated at arm's length
13:42 <@Mirage> andrew..?  dink?
13:42 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Yes
13:42 <@Dolemite> Dink == Andrew McElroy, founder of Codex Labs
13:43 <@Dagmar> Suhweeet
13:43 <@Mirage> ok.  we should stick to proper names in here..not birth (slave) name
13:43 <@Dagmar> I get to fill out the F5 support survey
13:43 <@Dagmar> It's a shame I can't just poop in it and click 'submit'.
13:43 <@Corydon76-home> He doesn't go by Dink anymore
13:44 <@Mirage> bah
13:44 <@Mirage> still married to devilcow?
13:44 <@Corydon76-home> I don't go by "Doogie" or "Bonecrusher" anymore
13:45 <@Dolemite> He divorced her ages ago, Mirage
13:45 <@Corydon76-home> That was Gavin Groce, not Dink
13:45 <@Dolemite> Corydon76-home: It was both of them
13:45 <@Mirage> Dolemite: noone ever tells me shit
13:45 <@Dolemite> Mirage: He got married to and divorced from devilcow before even I left Nashville, so don't blame me for you not paying attention :P
13:46 <@Mirage> I get to hear about the "omg, i can't believe _____" stuff, but hardly get any follow-up later.
13:46 <@Corydon76-home> Gavin is now working for Ben & Jerry's
13:46 <@Mirage> I need to learn to listen to gossip more.
13:46 <@Corydon76-home> and no, not for their IT group.  He's scooping ice cream.
13:46 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I found out about it all in one sentence - when he showed up at a Nashville 2600 meeting after being gone for 1-2 years.
13:48 <@Corydon76-home> I have to wonder about Gavin's sexual predilections, now that crazypants has let Dink's sexual predilections out of the bag
13:48 <@wilpig> eh?
13:49 <@critch> from the comments above, do we need a new sex chart?
13:49 <@wilpig> just start with Corydon76-home in the middle and work outwards
13:49 <@wilpig> heh
13:49 <@Dolemite> wilpig: only for the males; you have to make another with skydog at the center and work outwards for the females
13:50 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, uh, nobody really wants to know that they're connected to me
13:50 <@critch> Do you win by being a disconnected node, or connecting to more than 50% of the graph?
13:50 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: Actually, no, that's not necessary
13:50 <@Dolemite> critch: Given the audience, you win by having the least number of connections
13:50 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: I'm sexually connected to SkyDog through one other person
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13:50 <@wilpig> Dolemite: maybe a venn diagram between skydick and Corydon76-home ?
13:51 <@critch> Then I win for being a disconnected node in this group.
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13:51 <@Dolemite> critch: No doubt
13:51 <@Corydon76-home> critch: again, you don't want to know
13:52 <@Corydon76-home> Sex charts have a way of making you more connected than you really wanted, especially when you consider the bisexual men in the group
13:52 <@critch> Ah shit, I just realized, while she doesn't come around this group, I am connected by 1 person to Hugme.
13:53 <@Dolemite> So as disruptive as crazypants seems to be (at least from the stories I hear, so no firthand knowledge) why has nobody pulled out the "Meetings are open to anybody as long as they are not disruptive?" clause?
13:54 <@wilpig> Dolemite: stop talking crazy
13:54 <@critch> I know it has been a few years since I have been to a 2600 meeting, but who is crazypants?
13:54 <@Dolemite> anarchival
13:55 <@Dolemite> I've never met her - she apparently showed up last year
13:55 <@critch> that name sounds familiar
13:55 <@Dolemite> She was on IRC until she wore out her welcome and kept getting repeatedly banned from here
13:55 <@critch> I think I met her at the Nashmicro meeting recently.
13:56 <@wilpig> critch if you want to see some madness I can dredge up some logs from in here where one night she went off on people that weren't even talking to her.  pretty sure they were asleep at the time
13:56 <@Corydon76-home> critch: she threatened a local developer with sodomy with a broken beer bottle, and she was uninvited from CoderFaire
13:56 <@critch> I think Dagmar told me about it,.
13:57 <@critch> Is she the one who is unemployed, and is holding out for a position that might pay at some non profit?
14:00 < aestetix_> vagina
14:03 <@oddball> Dolemite: She's usually not disruptive at meetings.
14:03 <@oddball> This past Friday... that's a slightly different matter.
14:04 <@wilpig> she was in heat and not responsible for her actions?
14:04 <@oddball> Nope.  Drunk.
14:04 <@Dolemite> Did she make an indecent proposal to Dagmar?
14:05 <@oddball> She did try to lay in his lap.
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14:06 <@Dickie> gross
14:07 <@wilpig> Dickie: I thought you wanted to lay in Dagmar's lap though?  why would you say that's gross?
14:08 <@oddball> Dolemite: There's also the issue that Fearless Leader thinks she's a saint.
14:08 <@opticron> he's just worried that dagmar's lap is now tainted
14:08 <@oddball> Someone should probably let klixa know. :p
14:08 <@klixa> let me know what?
14:08 <@Dolemite> Well, yeah, seeing as how he would need to be the executive to enforce that clause, if he thinks she's a tain... er, I mean, saint, then it's not likely to happen
14:09 <@Dolemite> klixa: That wilpig is ready for you and the baby to move in
14:09 <@klixa> Dolemite: oh, thats old news...im in his apt right now as i type this
14:09 <@oddball> klixa: that crazy pants was trying to lay on your territory.  You're always trying to get into Dagmar's pants, right?  I remember her insisting on that.
14:10 <@klixa> oddball: you know it!
14:10 <@klixa> oddball: yeah, i was told about her molesting my property
14:13 <@Dolemite> Wilpig's new shower -> http://geekologie.com/2014/07/wtf-sad-single-guy-turns-shower-head-int.php
14:13 <@GateKeeper> Title: WTF?: Sad Single Guy Turns Shower Head Into Girlfriend | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
14:13 <@wilpig> klixa: don't be telling them!  damn.  you can't keep a secret for shit
14:13 <@klixa> im sorry honey bunny :/
14:14 < aestetix_> klixa: do you ever have a female version of the male "need to ejaculate"?
14:14 < aestetix_> like, do you ever just go insane because you haven't gotten off?
14:14 <@oddball> I'm still wondering about how the con is supposed to have this magnificent amount of growth, since I've yet to hear of any actual promotion.
14:14 <@Dickie> aka, every waking moment
14:15 < aestetix_> oddball: growth?
14:15 < aestetix_> you have Corydon76-home
14:15 <@klixa> aestetix_: yes...tho it rarely escelates to that point
14:15  * klixa gives aestetix_ a biology textbook for xmas
14:15 <@Dolemite> Speaking of growth, I want at least 20 people at GeekNIC next year
14:15 < aestetix_> klixa: then why do so many girls say they don't masturbate
14:16 < RangerZ> aestetix_: they don't, they just tell YOU that
14:16 <@klixa> aestetix_: they are liying
14:16 <@klixa> lying8
14:16 <@oddball> aestetix_: Yeah... Fearless Leader wants to start pulling a lot more folks in... which I think we'll need to do to pay off the hotel and have anything left in the coffers for next year.
14:17 < RangerZ> we have codex in the coffers
14:17 < RangerZ> thats how this works
14:17 <@klixa> aestetix_: this is gnna sound crazy...but some people are embarassed to talk about their own personal sexuality... CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!?!?!
14:17 <@oddball> Hell, he wants there to be enough money in the bank reserves to pay for a couple cons while going back to being a donation con.
14:17 < RangerZ> he thinks he'll get government grants and other shit like that
14:17 <@klixa> "fearless leader" needs to throw crazypants to the curb
14:18 <@klixa> if he wants such things
14:18 <@oddball> ...while using a fairly high end hotel as the host hotel.
14:18 <@klixa> and also, he needs to l isten to people who haev good money aving ideas...and
14:18 <@klixa> etc etc
14:18 <@oddball> klixa: That's just crazy talk!
14:18 <@klixa> fearless leader once said i was the type of girl to get pregnant at age 14...he said this when i was 14... he was wrong...i was 34 before having a kid
14:18 <@wilpig> klixa: those people wanting to save money and go the smart route, they just lack vision!
14:18 < RangerZ> just think... she could be our tresurer
14:19 < RangerZ> the person who hasn't had a job in a year
14:19 < aestetix_> klixa: this is why we should have public masturbation
14:19  * wilpig hands out stamps.  
14:19 <@klixa> wilpig: damn stuck in the box non visionary type people :|
14:19 <@Dolemite> klixa: Wait, you've know JonnyX for 20+ years?
14:19 <@wilpig> okay everybody, place them on your tongue.  we're ALL gonna get visions
14:19 <@klixa> Dolemite: no... i met him when i was 14 tho...i met dagmar too back then
14:19 < RangerZ> ohh but don't worry... they want to move out of nashville
14:20 <@Dolemite> klixa: Ah, didn't realize that you had ever lived in Nashville
14:20 <@klixa> Dolemite: im from there
14:20 <@Shadow404> wilpig: guess where i am
14:20 <@Dolemite> klixa: Where did you go to high school?  What year did you graduate?
14:20 < RangerZ> NYC?
14:20 <@Shadow404> answr is easy for u to find
14:20 < RangerZ> but thats not a 'guess'
14:20 <@klixa> Dolemite: i went to MLK magnet from 7-9, then i transferred to hillsboro...i would have graduated in 97, but i started college a year early at mtsu
14:20 <@klixa> 7th to 9th*
14:20 <@wilpig> Shadow404: unless it's jail.  just don't have the time for it
14:21 < RangerZ> or wilpig's apartment
14:21 <@Shadow404> grr
14:21 < RangerZ> that would be impressive
14:21 <@wilpig> Shadow404: if it is jail. I still don't have the time for it, but I'm betting it has to do with prostitution
14:21 <@Dolemite> I went to Page High, class of '88, so about 9 years older than you - makes sense, I'm 43
14:21 <@Shadow404> 208.163.40.102
14:22 <@klixa> Dolemite: i think Paige high is where my nieces are zoned for
14:22 <@Shadow404> little column !, little column "
14:22 <@Shadow404> b
14:22 <@klixa> oldest is 10 atm tho
14:22  * shapr hugs klixa 
14:22 <@Shadow404> er
14:22 <@klixa> hai shapr
14:22 <@Shadow404> a and b
14:22  * klixa hugs shapr back
14:22 <@shapr> howdy klixa, how you doin?
14:22 <@Shadow404> die shapr
14:22 <@shapr> klixa: I bought a car! It's sporty!
14:22  * shapr hugs Shadow404
14:22  * RangerZ wraps duct tape around shapr and klixa
14:22 <@shapr> Shadow404: sorry, didn't mean to leave you out
14:22 <@wilpig> attention everyone.  Shadow404 wants you to know he's tracking down my jamaican publishers clearing house scammer
14:22 <@Dolemite> klixa: It's nothing like it used to be.  When I was there, most of Williamson County was still rural.  Now it's all suburban.
14:22 <@klixa> Dolemite: i know a guy that might have gone there... Jake Kraft...he lived on franklin...not actually sure where he went to high school...but hes your age
14:23 <@shapr> klixa: I bought a 2006 Mini Cooper, it's hard to keep it under the speed limit.
14:23 < aestetix_> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/obama-administration-says-the-worlds-servers-are-ours/
14:23 <@Dolemite> He probably went to Franklin High.  My graduating class was small enough to know everybody - I think around 150 or so.
14:23 <@klixa> shapr: is it comfortable to ride in? im more of the Jeep type myself
14:23 <@shapr> I had 38 in my graduating class.
14:24 <@shapr> klixa: Yes, very comfortable as long as you don't sit in the back seats.
14:24 <@Dolemite> shapr: Sounds like my ST-1100.  If you don't stare at the speedometer, when you look back at it you're doing 95.
14:25 <@shapr> Yeah, I've only gotten this car up to 95mph so far, but it could go faster.
14:25 <@klixa> Dolemite: but yeah, being from nashville is how i ended up in this channel...i was gonna move back, in december cause of a bunch of circumsytances...and i went to nashville and looked up 2600 and found this channel, etc
14:25 <@klixa> Dolemite: i only ended up staying 2 weeks before leaving
14:25 <@klixa> leaving nashville*
14:26 <@klixa> ive been on freenode for... since 2007 tho
14:26 <@shapr> klixa: will you ever return?
14:26 <@klixa> shapr: im prolly gonna go around xmas to visit family this yeart
14:26 <@shapr> cool
14:26 <@oddball> klixa: And finding the guys in Nashville in this channel made you change your mind? :p
14:26 <@klixa> oddball: HA
14:27 <@shapr> ouch
14:27 <@klixa> oddball: it was because of crazypants...i knew i couldnt compete with her for Dagmar 's love :(
14:27 <@Dolemite> Oh.  heh.  On a straight, flat, rural stretch between here and The Dragon I got the bike up to 110...   the bike would have gone faster, but I couldn't.
14:27 <@wilpig> god klixa you just told them all you're shacked up with me and you're still talking about dagmar?!  wtf?!  GAH!
14:28 <@klixa> wilpig: well, that was the past... you are my sun and moon now :|
14:28  * Dickie clears his throat
14:29 <@Dickie> I believe I called dibs
14:29 <@shapr> I thought you called dbus?
14:29 <@Dickie> I hope you can feel my glare
14:29  * shapr is shriveling under the painful glare of Dickie 
14:29 <@klixa> shapr: what kinda mpg does the cooper get?
14:29 <@shapr> klixa: about 27mpg the way I drive
14:30 <@shapr> supposedly up to 35mpg if you're not in a hurry
14:30 <@klixa> cool; i want to get a Jeep (atm i have a ford explorer)...it will get about 20mpg
14:30 <@shapr> though I don't see how someone could drive this car like it's not in a hurry.
14:30 <@klixa> toyotas get soooo much better mpg (my last one was nearly 30 and was a truck) so i would be up for a tpyota truck too
14:31 <@shapr> It's so small my mother suggested I put a bicycle flag on it.
14:31 <@klixa> shapr: yeah...thats why i asked if it was compfrtable
14:32 <@klixa> my first car was a ford escort...and for years i only had small cars
14:32 <@klixa> but once i got a truck/suv, i havent gone back
14:32 <@shapr> I've never owned a truck/suv
14:32 <@shapr> But I've always wanted a sporty car.
14:32 <@klixa> i like a car that doubles as a house
14:32 <@klixa> i lived in a bronco 2 for a year by the ocean
14:33 <@klixa> i lived a total of 3 years by the ocean in a vehicle...but after a year i upgraded to an camper van/rv situation
14:33 <@klixa> those were fun times...i dorve up and down the coast many times
14:33 <@oddball> See... that's why I've always liked station wagons.  Lots of cargo space, but doesn't have the high center of gravity that trucks/SUVs do.
14:33 <@klixa> and i crossed the country...florida, new england, everywhere
14:34 <@klixa> whenever i got tired, pull into a walmart or rest area...hop in back..and sleep
14:34 <@klixa> simple
14:34 <@klixa> station wagons wheels are low to the ground tho...nto great for going up dirt trails on mountains...like in big sur
14:35 < RangerZ> I avoid rest areas now, I sleep when travelling at a place with more traffic, like a fastfood place, etc
14:35 <@oddball> Which I pretty much never do.
14:35 <@klixa> RangerZ: i prefer walmarts and truckstops over rest areas
14:35 <@klixa> but sometimes , like on the coast...they dont allow parking at walkmart..city ordinances...and there are no truck stops
14:36 <@oddball> I tend to sleep at these things called hotels... they've got beds and everything. :p
14:36 <@klixa> in the right vehicle...its best to just park in the city where they haev street parking and blend
14:36 < RangerZ> burgerking, etc will let you
14:36 <@klixa> like in berkely, i just park on the side of the road
14:36 <@klixa> RangerZ: some will let you anyway... it all depends
14:36 <@shapr> I usually just move somewhere for a few years, that's how I visited Europe.
14:36 <@klixa> oddball: hotel? wtf is that!?!?!
14:38 <@oddball> :p
14:39 < RangerZ> its a waste of money most of the time... b/c I'm only sleeping for an hour or two...
14:39 <@klixa> its a waste of money when you have a perfectly good car to sleep in
14:40 < aestetix_> so
14:40 < aestetix_> Obama is really fucking up
14:40 < RangerZ> if I could rent a japanese love hotel for an hour or two... but you DO NOT want to rent an american hotel for an hour
14:40 < RangerZ> lol
14:40 <@oddball> RangerZ: Ah, yeah... quick nap.
14:40 <@wilpig> klixa: some places have public indecency laws
14:40 <@klixa> wilpig: are you saying its indecent to sleep?
14:40 <@klixa> or are you making a joke
14:41 <@oddball> If I'm actually on a road trip that takes long enough that that's an issue, I have a second driver with me.
14:41 < RangerZ> from here to NE Ohio is 9~10 hours depending on traffic, how long you stop at rests , etc
14:41 < RangerZ> so I often get tired around the 7~8hr mark
14:42 <@klixa> RangerZ: i drove to columbus , oh form nashville stayed 3 hurs then turened around and drove back
14:42 < RangerZ> and it is just safer to pull over
14:42 <@klixa> no rests
14:42 <@klixa> it sucked
14:42 <@klixa> i had to take someone to pick up a large check
14:42 <@wilpig> klixa: that's a horrible story.  balance it out with a good one
14:42 < RangerZ> tell us about the time you slept with wilpig
14:43 <@klixa> which time RangerZ?
14:43 < RangerZ> or is that another bad story
14:43 <@wilpig> worse
14:43 < RangerZ> when he was 22 and you popped his cherry
14:43 < aestetix_> ...
14:43 <@klixa> thats a messy story RangerZ
14:43 < aestetix_> what?
14:43  * shapr blinks
14:43 <@oddball> RangerZ: Meh, I drive to Detroit a couple times a year.  Stops are purely for gas, food, and toilet breaks.
14:44 <@klixa> why detroit?
14:44 <@wilpig> toilet?  was your bottle full?
14:44 < RangerZ> he's getting cuban cigars from across the border
14:44 <@oddball> I'm originally from that area.  Still have family up there.
14:44 <@klixa> chinook cigars
14:44 <@klixa> hes illegally imprting tim hortons
14:44 <@oddball> wilpig: Nah, Naienko hasn't learned how to time her breaks with the gas/food stops. :p
14:45 <@oddball> klixa: Fuck that, there's Tim Hortons in the Detroit area now!
14:45 <@klixa> oddball: they have been in Ohio for years
14:45 <@klixa> but those are the LEGAL ones...im talking about the illegal one :|
14:45 <@wilpig> hehe oddball, next time treat her like you would a cat.  drug her before you go.  she'll wake up at the other end all groggy and refreshed
14:45 <@oddball> Hell, I once did that drive after putting in a full 8 hour work day.  I... wouldn't recommend that.
14:46 < aestetix_> oddball: it's not so hard if you have adderall
14:47 <@oddball> Oh, it wasn't a problem.  I was planning on stopping somewhere in Ohio when I got tired.  I didn't start to get tired until the other side of Toledo... which is roughly an hour from my Dad's place.
14:48 < RangerZ> aestetix_: adderall doesn't really work that way .... at least for me... puts me to sleep :/
14:48 < aestetix_> heh
14:48 < aestetix_> RangerZ: how much do you take?
14:48 < RangerZ> 20mg
14:48 < aestetix_> wow
14:48 < aestetix_> I only take 5
14:49 < RangerZ> mom takes 60
14:49 < RangerZ> and it isn't enough for her
14:49 <@oddball> Yeah... if you actually have ADHD (which I do), you have to chow down on Adderall for it to give you a boost.
14:49 < aestetix_> http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/2ant65/tifu_by_jerking_off_into_my_sock/
14:49 <@shapr> I take 60
14:49 <@klixa> man, does EVERYONE here have ADHD?
14:49 < aestetix_> I don't
14:49 < RangerZ> probably
14:49 <@klixa> im unmedicated...
14:49 < aestetix_> I take 5 when I need to stay up
14:49 <@klixa> i have it, but i dont treat it
14:49 <@shapr> klixa: can't keep track, I get distracted :-P
14:50 <@klixa> shapr: who are you, have we met?
14:50 <@oddball> I don't take any meds for it, but I've been diagnosed with it.
14:50 <@shapr> klixa: ha
14:50 <@shapr> klixa: you already know, and no
14:50 <@oddball> And the crossover of folks fasinated by computers/tech and having ADHD is pretty high.
14:51 <@klixa> peppermint mocha lattaes are nice in winter shapr
14:51 < RangerZ> ^
14:51 < RangerZ> oddball's statement, not klixa's
14:51 <@shapr> oddball: it's the small feedback loop
14:51 <@oddball> yep
14:51 < RangerZ> i thought it was b/c we had more shiney things to distract us than any other field
14:51 <@oddball> SPeaking of being distracted, I meant to head to my mom's place to feed the cat a while ago.  Later!
14:51 < RangerZ> but ok
14:51  * wilpig is high on life
14:52 <@klixa> RangerZ: compuetrs change alot...hard to get bored...tahts my theory
14:52 < RangerZ> wilpig: then who is the girl you're seeing, lol
14:52 <@wilpig> just klixa 
14:52 < RangerZ> she's not a girl, she's a woman
14:52 < RangerZ> hehe
14:52 <@klixa> :P
14:53 <@wilpig> someone needs to get to RangerZ asap!  he's being held hostage by crazy pants
14:54 < RangerZ> nah, that bitch hasn't wanted to come near me since I didn't say a word back to her when she asked if I thought she was pretty
14:54 < RangerZ> i was going the "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all' route
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14:54 <@shapr> yow
14:54 < RangerZ> and thank god
14:54 < RangerZ> so anyways... wilpig has gnomoria become completely unplayable for you lately?
14:55 < RangerZ> its like he doesn't have any code at all, to handle all the units at onces, and keeping track of all the blocks/etc
14:58 < aestetix_> maybe she needs to masturbate
15:00 < RangerZ> she needs laid, but I don't know any guys that desprate ... and I'm a grad student in CS... thats saying something
15:02 <@wilpig> RangerZ: I havne't fired it up since the golem update.  I haven't been on my windows machine in a while
15:02 <@wilpig> I need some freetime
15:02 < RangerZ> it keeps stalling and soft-crashing
15:02 <@Bahhumbug> RangerZ: She'd be better off buying a fuck machine.
15:02 <@Bahhumbug> But then again, she'd need a job of some type, first.
15:03 < RangerZ> where the UI component has to rebuild itself so you can see the window disapear and then be re-created
15:06 < aestetix_> man
15:06 < aestetix_> I think I would hate law school
15:07 < aestetix_> it seems like law school is a bunch of what, with very little why
15:08 < aestetix_> ok time for shitty journalism
15:08 < aestetix_> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/14/church-england-general-synod-approves-female-bishops?CMP=twt_gu
15:08 < RangerZ> its all about memorization of history of law
15:08 < aestetix_> "The Church of England has finally agreed that women may become bishops next year, breaking with nearly 2,000 years of tradition and ending 20 years of bitter compromises since women were allowed to become priests in 1994."
15:08 < aestetix_> I'm pretty sure the Church of England is not 2000 years old
15:09 <@Corydon76-home> They consider themselves to have broken off from the Catholic Church
15:09 < RangerZ> but since the council of nicea... its been an issue
15:09 < aestetix_> uh
15:09 < RangerZ> so 1700 years
15:09 <@Corydon76-home> Thus, they inherit the entire history
15:09 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: they did.
15:09 < aestetix_> The Church of England was created by Henry VIII in an act of defiance against the pope
15:09 <@Corydon76-home> As opposed to the King deciding to create a whole other church?
15:10 < aestetix_> He *did* create a whole other church
15:10 < RangerZ> which basically was the catholic church... except the king is the pope
15:10 < RangerZ> lol
15:10 <@Bahhumbug> Formally organized in 1534.
15:11 < RangerZ> http://pastebin.com/1LL7HBdv I'll ask here... any suggestions on this router config to have the two subnets not talk to each other?
15:11 <@GateKeeper> Title: [XML] LisbonDaysINN - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
15:11 < aestetix_> RangerZ: No, he's the king. Of his own religion. that isn't catholicism.
15:11 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: yes, but there's a difference between forking and building from the ground up
15:11 < aestetix_> As opposed to the papal schism of avignon where there *were* in fact two popes claiming rule of the catholic chrch
15:12 < aestetix_> The church of england is no more catholic than lutherans
15:12 <@Bahhumbug> That's hardly the only time in the Catholic Churches hiustory where that has happened.
15:12 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: right.
15:12 <@Dolemite> Protestantism was basically a fork, then
15:13 < aestetix_> I think that depends on who you ask.
15:14 < aestetix_> Since most protestants would not stand being called a fork off the catholics :p
15:14 <@Bahhumbug> It's all fiction.  Perhaps they should just get over it.
15:14 <@Dolemite> yet the lithurgy has a lot of similarities
15:14 < aestetix_> btw speaking of dashcon
15:14 < aestetix_> http://jezebel.com/the-tumblr-user-convention-dashcon-was-a-beautiful-hil-1604571770/all
15:14 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: I find it all very fascinating
15:14 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: in the same way I find Asimov's Foundation fascinating
15:14 <@Dolemite> and on that note, I'm out of here
15:15 <@Bahhumbug> I used to.  Then I woke up.
15:16 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: as one of my friends said... Catholicism would be a lot better if they took the Christianity crap out of it
15:16 <@Corydon76-home> No, Catholicism would be a lot better if they took the Paulian crap out of it
15:16 < aestetix_> hahah
15:17 < aestetix_> But then we wouldn't *have* Catholicism ;)
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> Bingo
15:17 <@Corydon76-home> If you removed St. Paul from religion, you wouldn't have a Church
15:17 <@wilpig> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=211w2g1&s=8#.U8QsxahhvIh
15:18 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: you would, but it wouldn't resemble anything like what we have today.
15:18 < aestetix_> And also, it would have died out after about 20 years.
15:18 < aestetix_> If that.
15:18 <@Corydon76-home> None of the conservatives would call themselves Christians; that's for sure
15:20 < aestetix_> Do you think the church attendance would be as bad as it is today if we hadn't had Vatican II?
15:22 <@Bahhumbug> Worse.
15:22 < aestetix_> man
15:22 < aestetix_> Dashcon looks like a clusterfuck
15:23 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: why?
15:27 <@Bahhumbug> Because V2 tried to modernize Catholic doctrine.
15:27 <@Bahhumbug> (As much as a group of closed-minded old fucks could)
15:31  * shapr yawns
15:33 < RangerZ> aestetix_: http://augustinesycamore.tumblr.com/post/91592502875/here-goes-i-decided-to-write-up-my-personal some good dash-con drama for you
15:33 <@GateKeeper> Title: be the best trainer you can be! (at augustinesycamore.tumblr.com)
15:34 <@Bahhumbug> That page design came close to giving me a tumor.
15:34 <@Bahhumbug> Thanks for that.
15:34 < aestetix_> I was looking at dashcon a little bit
15:34 <@Bahhumbug> Did tumblr buy myspace or something?
15:34 < aestetix_> It seems that unlike the majority of wannabe-cons, they actually made something happen, and then it imploded on them
15:35 < aestetix_> This is why you start small and grow.
15:35 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: I thought Yahoo bought them
15:36 <@Bahhumbug> Take a look at RangerZ's link.  Tell me that doesn't remind you, at least somewhat, of some of the dreck on myspace in years past.
15:36  * Bahhumbug shrugs
15:36 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps it's just me.
15:36 < RangerZ> i gotta admit... at least the text has white background
15:36 < RangerZ> could be worse
15:36 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, no doubt.  Tumblr is going after many of the same users
15:36 < RangerZ> could have nyaanLarry
15:37 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: Is that there prefered user base?
15:37 <@Bahhumbug> sigh
15:37 <@Bahhumbug> their
15:37 <@Bahhumbug> preferred
15:37 <@Bahhumbug> I need lunch :/
15:37  * Bahhumbug &
15:37 <@Corydon76-home> I used to deal with a teenager who never met a web plugin he didn't want to immediately plaster all over a website
15:37 < aestetix_> Dashcon actually used to be called Tumbl-Con USA. They didn’t want to include Tumblr’s full name so they wouldn’t get sued or anything.
15:38 <@Corydon76-home> He also couldn't spell worth half a damn, and we "accidentally" made it impossible for him to modify the website
15:38 < aestetix_> YOu know, there is this thing called asking a lawyer
15:38 < aestetix_> Or even *gasp* reaching out to Tumblr
15:38 < aestetix_> There are places where it's easier to ask forgiveness. This is not one of them.
15:39 < aestetix_> Also, reaching out to tumblr creates the possibility they might like the idea and sponsor it.
15:40 < RangerZ> aestetix_: bad news for you btw... probably no skydogcon
15:40 < RangerZ> lol
15:40 < aestetix_> why is that bad news for me
15:40 < RangerZ> something to make fun of?
15:40 < aestetix_> oh lol
15:40  * RangerZ shrugs
15:40 < aestetix_> I'm still reading this writeup
15:40 < aestetix_> have any of these people run a conference before?
15:44 <@wilpig> aestetix_: they couldn't use tumblr.  they were told no
15:45 < aestetix_> wilpig: the key is, did they ask before they used that abortion of a name?
15:45 < aestetix_> Or did they just get told "you can't use tumblr" so they chopped off a letter to "get around" it?
15:46 <@shapr> EARTHDOGCON
15:46 <@wilpig> I just read a thing saying they were forbidden from using it
15:46 <@shapr> earthcat?
15:46 < RangerZ> tumblr probably knew how bad it was going to be
15:46 <@wilpig> which if they asked us I can tell you they'd say no ahead of time because they are pretty picky about who they let use the name in advertising
15:46 < RangerZ> and said 'nope....no...nadda...'
15:46 < aestetix_> well given that I saw like five red flags in the first two paragraphs
15:47 < aestetix_> I really hope they had some kind of LLC they dumped that donation money into
15:47 < RangerZ> ohh it gets to that
15:47 < RangerZ> nope
15:47 < RangerZ> they wanted each committee chair to handle their own money
15:47 < aestetix_> wait
15:47 < aestetix_> they didn't have a treasurer?
15:47 <@wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7rzr8kzd79l366b/Screen%20Shot%202014-07-14%20at%203.47.30%20PM.png
15:47 < RangerZ> they had 1 PER comm.
15:48 < aestetix_> As a committee head I had nowhere to put the money either, which led to ample confusion from just about everybody. Some committees had money and others didn’t. We were told every committee would be getting its own PayPal account, which I awaited.
15:48 < aestetix_> So that person was just holding money.... unaccounted for
15:49 < RangerZ> thats the only saving grace of PN this year
15:49 < RangerZ> the tresurer
15:50 < RangerZ> i would say "all bow down to Corydon76-home" ... but that has subtext to it
15:50 < aestetix_> this is so painful to read
15:52 < RangerZ> https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/63eec30a502d907aacda15179304a7e5/tumblr_inline_n8nstfb9Cl1s2xspi.png
15:52 < RangerZ> thats great...
15:52 <@ignotus-sdf>      Be back in a minute to lurk some more.
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15:53 <@Corydon76-home> shapr: windbagcon
15:55 < aestetix_> RangerZ: I can already see several lawsuits coming out of this
15:56  * Catonic blinks
15:56 < RangerZ> " LMFAO PEOPLE'S MOMS ARE CALLING THE HOTEL TO DEMAND INFORMATION oh my god"
15:56 < RangerZ> HAHA
15:57 < aestetix_> oh jesus there is a part 2
15:58 <@Catonic> law school is a lot of work, memorization, fine details, for little return.
15:58 < RangerZ> it gets worse
15:58 < RangerZ> Catonic: but crazypants went to law school
15:58 <@Catonic> whois is crazypants?
15:58 < RangerZ> my question was... then why didn't you get a real job
15:58 < aestetix_> how can it get worse
15:58 < RangerZ> anarchival or however you spell it
15:59 <@Catonic> Law school is the #1 cause of mental health cases.
15:59 < RangerZ> apparently they tried to raise another 17k AT the con
15:59 <@Catonic> is there a short url for this mess RangerZ?
15:59 < RangerZ> and lost their biggest draws b/c they couldn't pay them, etc
16:00 < RangerZ> http://tinyurl.com/m7p2lzb
16:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Tumblr User Convention DashCon Was a Beautiful, Hilarious Shitshow (at tinyurl.com)
16:02 < RangerZ> the ball pit... great
16:02 < RangerZ> we should have one at PN... just to mock this
16:05 < aestetix_> god this is hard to read
16:05 < aestetix_> This makes lj entries look like deep analytic essays
16:06 <@Catonic> oh wow, that's fraud.
16:07 <@wilpig> RangerZ: we looked at that before.  the cost of the balls was too high
16:08 <@wilpig> I even looked at several of those chinese places that sell shit stupid cheap
16:09 < RangerZ> ohh we'd only a few dozen to out do this crap
16:09 <@wilpig> the other problem was the storage of them or whatever money went into the balls was just a one time lol cost
16:10 < RangerZ> isn't PN a 'one time lol cost' each year?
16:10 < RangerZ> hehe
16:10 <@wilpig> if we tried to store enough balls for a good joke, we'd have completely filled all the empty space in the storage building
16:10 <@wilpig> RangerZ: not all of it
16:11 < RangerZ> wilpig: perhaps we can get a piece of plastic and then fill the storage unit... so when Corydon76-home opens it... a few thousand balls fall out onto his face...
16:12 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: Aren't you assuming I don't like balls in my face?
16:12 <@wilpig> RangerZ: that could easily be done and it would make a huge mess as all the balls would immediately set off rolling down hill
16:14  * Catonic wanders back to work
16:15 <@Corydon76-home> wilpig: would you make sure they're sticky, sweaty balls?
16:16 <@wilpig> nope
16:16 <@wilpig> straight up brightly colored non-sticky, plastic ones
16:16 <@wilpig> happy to dissapoint
16:16 <@wilpig> disappoint*
16:17 < aestetix_> I think the reason dashcon is so offensive to me is that I'm working on sorting out problems of a much larger magnitude than anything they dealt with
16:17 <@wilpig> I need to head upstairs and out of this noise
16:17 < aestetix_> And these issues will be resolved, because we're adults (mostly)
16:17 <@wilpig> I was baout to say.  aestetix_ you're no adult
16:17 < RangerZ> legally, not mentally
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16:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: speaking of, you should let me interview snowden, and just post it to my youtube account
16:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> it would piss off all the media so much
16:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
16:35 < aestetix_> lol
16:35 < aestetix_> if we get to do q&a with him
16:35 < aestetix_> I am seriously gonna just ask him "emacs or vi?"
16:35 < aestetix_> just to piss off the media
16:39 < RangerZ|Laptop> honestly, I'm thinking of actually making content for youtube, since I'll be working with the digital learning institute ... so a grab like that would be great... LOL
16:42 < aestetix_> OMG
16:42 < aestetix_> Tumbl-Con USA is run by a small team of concentrated administrators, all hard working and willing to do what it takes to get this convetnion off the ground. Between us we have 10+ years of con volunteering experience, and hours upon hours of higher education, much of which is aimed at planning conventions just like this one.
16:42 < aestetix_> from https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/tumbl-con-usa-start-up
16:42 < aestetix_> They have 10+ years
16:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: just stop
16:43 < aestetix_> dude this is your fault
16:43 < RangerZ|Laptop> dash con was an elaborate plan by the NSA to give you an aneurysm
16:43 < aestetix_> haha
16:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> i only got 500$ to help in your death... but they said it was going to be quick and painless
16:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> i can't watch a poor soul get tortured like this
16:44 < RangerZ|Laptop> and they won't pay the 1000$ it requires to torture you...
16:45 < RangerZ|Laptop> LOL
16:48 < RangerZ|Laptop> but yeah... this thing is a comedy of errors
16:52 <@Dagmar> This DashCon thing is hilarious
16:52 < aestetix_> Man
16:52 < aestetix_> I just keep finding more writeups
16:52 <@Dagmar> Let's see... how did I phrase it?
16:53 <@Dagmar> "Who would have guessed that an environment build from myriad echo chambers curated by a bunch of anti-social delusionaries would have problems with organizing a massive social event?"
16:54 <@Dagmar> Apparently the concept that money needs to come from somewhere completely eluded them
16:54 <@Dagmar> Imagine that
16:55 <@Dagmar> Jesus
16:55 <@Dagmar> We're about to get washed off the map I think
16:55 <@Dagmar> Ahead of storm... 95F.
16:55 <@Dagmar> Behind thunderstorm, 68F.
16:55 <@Dagmar> AH THINKS THERE MAY BE SOME HAIL
16:56 <@Dagmar> Maybe.
17:03 < aestetix_> how are there so many articles about this awful conference
17:04 <@Dagmar> Because it was a massive clusterfuck with many loud-mouthed witnesses
17:04 <@Dagmar> The should have done like BronyCon and just moved the whole thing to a bar that primarily serves hard-liquor
17:04 < aestetix_> Except most of them couldn't get into a bar
17:04 < aestetix_> Maybe a chucky cheese
17:05 <@Dagmar> I stand by my conclusion.
17:06 < aestetix_> YOu know how every ten years or so there is a 10-20 car pileup on some highway due to darwin and human stupidity?
17:06 < aestetix_> I think this is the conference version of that
17:11 < aestetix_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3_6v4J6AIk&feature=youtu.be
17:11 < aestetix_> god they look young
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17:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: they had a 13 year old head of one of the sections
17:27 <@Bahhumbug> ...
17:27 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously?
17:27 <@Bahhumbug> That is _quite_ fucked up.
17:28 < aestetix_> Please tell me it was the BSDM section
17:28 <@Bahhumbug> Nope.  Won't tell you that.
17:29 < aestetix_> er, wasn't*
17:29 < aestetix_> I read through some of the skype logs that one blog posted
17:29 < aestetix_> it was like seeing a 15 year olds chat window
17:36 <@Corydon76-home> No, the 13yo was in charge of the Knotting panel
17:38 <@Corydon76-home> and once you figure out what knotting is, you'll be even more disturbed than if the 13yo was in charge of the BDSM panel
17:41 < aestetix_> like..... tying knots with ropes?
17:42 <@Corydon76-home> I'll let you Google it
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> @define knotting
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> shit
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> @google define knotting
17:42 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: Urban Dictionary: knot: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=knot>; Urban Dictionary: knotting: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=knotting>; Urban Dictionary: The Knot: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The+Knot>; Knotted | Define Knotted at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/knotted>; Knot | Define Knot at Dictionary.com: (1 more message)
17:42 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh.
17:43 < aestetix_> I don't understand this
17:44 <@Corydon76-home> I don't think any of us here are able to explain it
17:44 < aestetix_> ..... why was there a knotting panel
17:44 <@rattle> Umm..  Yeah.
17:45 <@Corydon76-home> Because there are some things that even the BDSM people won't do
17:45 < aestetix_> Why the fuck does a 13 year old even know what that is
17:45 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: Have you met Virgil?
17:45 < aestetix_> I hope the NSA is watching me
17:46 < aestetix_> Because of what they just had to look at
17:47 <@Corydon76-home> I hope the secops people are watching Rattle
17:47 < aestetix_> haha
17:48 <@Corydon76-home> There Will Be Screams
17:48 < aestetix_> I know some of you won't believe this
17:48 < aestetix_> but even I have my limits
17:48 <@Bahhumbug> There are times I don't want to live on this planet any longer.
17:48 <@Corydon76-home> You're right; I don't believe it
17:49 <@Corydon76-home> Most of us believe there are things that aestetix has done, and there are things that aestetix just hasn't had the opportunity to do yet.
17:49 <@Corydon76-home> and nothing falls outside of that continuum
17:50 < RangerZ|Laptop> Corydon76-home: where do you lie?
17:51 <@Corydon76-home> I'm sure there's things I've done that aestetix hasn't done yet, and vice versa
17:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> not what I meant, but ok
17:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
17:55 <@Corydon76-home> What do you mean?
17:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> where on aestetix_'s continuum do you "lie" ... nvm... was play on words and grammar
18:02 < aestetix_> http://www.dashcon.org/dashcon-2015-advance-reg/
18:02 < aestetix_> gotta get one before they sell out
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> "For Tumblr Users, By Tumblr Users. We are not in any way affiliated with or endorsed by Tumblr."
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> Other than using their rights protected mark, you mean?
18:06 < aestetix_> haha
18:06 <@Bahhumbug> Tumblr could shut them down for that alone if they wanted.
18:07 < aestetix_> well
18:07 <@Bahhumbug> And considering the absolute trainwreck that this appears to be I am kinda surprised they've not done so.
18:07 < aestetix_> At this point they could probably get around it by way of satire
18:07 < aestetix_> because nobody is gonna take them seriously
18:07 <@Bahhumbug> That assumes some intelligence on the part of the con promoters.
18:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> hell... you should ask them to hold it the same time at PN or HOPE
18:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> that way we can all see
18:08 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
18:08 < aestetix_> I wonder how many people used their personal bank accounts to take donations
18:08 < aestetix_> and then "quit"
18:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> fuck... can i sign up right now to be the head/treasurer of a track next year?
18:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> I'll lead 3 of them... i can make up 3x skype usernames
18:10 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
18:12 < aestetix_> There was some miscommunication in the Dashcon crew’s hotel contract; while Dashcon thought they could pay after, the hotel staff insisted they pay before.
18:12 < aestetix_> What fucking hotel would let a new conference pay AFTER
18:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> they wouldn't know THAT
18:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> geeze
18:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> you act like they knew ANYTHING
18:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
18:13 < aestetix_> I mean
18:13 < aestetix_> If you go into mcdonalds
18:13 < aestetix_> do they let you pay after you eat your big mac?
18:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> no... but hotels DO let you pay afterwards
18:14 < RangerZ|Laptop> you just have to give your info beforehand
18:14 < aestetix_> and a deposit
18:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> still... naive on their part... but i 'see' why they thought that way
18:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> bad communication
18:15 < aestetix_> because they are 15?
18:15 < RangerZ|Laptop> first of all they were using 'leet speak' even we don't bother fucking using
18:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> full god damn words or GTFO... wait
18:20 <@Bahhumbug> ^ that
18:21 <@Bahhumbug> I am going to have shirts made up that state "ur isn't a fucking word, you moronic imbecile"
18:21 <@Bahhumbug> Go ahead, mention Ur.  I'll set you on fire.
18:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> also... everyone in 615 got their 'thunder buddy' ready? lol
18:26 <@Bahhumbug> Don't forget your inflattable raft.
18:26 <@Bahhumbug> (_RAFT_, not _DOLL_)
18:28 < RangerZ|Laptop> friend of mine's mom was/is a seamstress... so for a friend of his when he turned 18... they took an inflatable raft... that they bought cheap... and made an inflatable doll out of it for him, put a jar of peanut butter in the crotch, and 2 cantaloupes in the chest
18:29 < RangerZ|Laptop> they borrowed her sewing machine, and made a monstrosity... lol
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18:59 < aestetix_> penis
19:47 <@wilpig> whoa!  utopia just started back?
19:49 <@wilpig> RangerZ|Laptop: I have something you might be interested in.  an anime from 2006 called Origin - Spirits of the Past ?
20:07 < RangerZ> never saw it, i'll check it out
20:09 <@wilpig> it'll be under my movies.hd directory later
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20:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> no rush
20:20 <@wilpig> I already have it and it's named properly and all.  I'm actually watching it right now to make sure it's good
20:21 <@wilpig> qualitywise not necessarily content
20:31 <@Dagmar> Isn't that _realizty TV_?
20:35 <@wilpig> fuckin' jose
20:36 <@wilpig> search results before.  didn't support nested devices or rear only shit.  but it was simple and direct just needed the other devices added in.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/hy0mb09x164gnz6/Screen%20Shot%202014-07-14%20at%208.24.10%20PM.png
20:37 <@wilpig> enter jose...  OMGWTFBBQ  https://www.dropbox.com/s/59wgdjdruvref3u/Screen%20Shot%202014-07-14%20at%208.24.59%20PM.png
20:39 < aestetix_> https://twitter.com/ryan/status/488828933622595584
20:40 <@wilpig> aestetix_: been there, done that
20:43 <@wilpig> 3 and a half minutes in and I'd have already been demanding to speak to a supervisor
20:49 < RangerZ> holy fuck... this is insane
20:49 <@Bahhumbug> Hi.  I am the customer.  Please to be shutting the fuck up and listen to what I request _AS A CUSTOMER OF YOUR SERVICE_.  I request you to disconnect the service.  Period.
20:50 < aestetix_> wow
20:50 < aestetix_> http://imgur.com/gallery/1Mo9D
20:50 < aestetix_> Mr. Testicle
20:50 < aestetix_> I wonder if he's Dr Penis's sidekick
20:51 < RangerZ> this shit should be entered as evidence as to why Comcast shouldn't be allowed to merge with TW
20:51 < RangerZ> fucker... google fiber DOES get me 105 MBps
20:52 < RangerZ> so STFU
20:59 <@Shadow404> ...
21:02 <@Shadow404> my current ip 208.163.40.102
21:02 <@Shadow404> :)
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> You're in Jamica.
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> Die.
21:07 <@Bahhumbug> Jamaica even
21:08 <@Shadow404> yep
22:17 < RangerZ> Shadow404: you know what they say about jamaica right... you can have all the unprotected sex you want down there... no one has any diseases at all there
22:18 < RangerZ> I read it on a tumblr page
22:20 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
22:20 <@Bahhumbug> I read that as well.
22:29 <@Dagmar> An SUV driver just banged up a couple of girls crossing the street on Belmont
22:29 < RangerZ> ouch
22:29 < RangerZ> they ok?
22:30 <@Dagmar> No one's dead but there's apparently some bleeding going on
22:33 < RangerZ> did they catch the driver?
22:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah the driver stayed
22:34 < RangerZ> well thats good at least
22:34 <@Dagmar> Jesus thunder
22:34 < RangerZ> yep
22:34 < RangerZ> you need a TED thunder buddy?
22:34 <@Dagmar> uhh no
22:34 < RangerZ> where is crazy pants
22:34 < RangerZ> hehe
22:36 <@Bahhumbug> If we're lucky?
22:36 <@Bahhumbug> Dead.
22:37 < RangerZ> an Indian immigrant just sent me this "c u tomm. gudnite"
22:37 < RangerZ> FUCK NO
22:37 < RangerZ> ugh
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22:56 < RangerZ> http://www.salon.com/2014/07/14/michelle_rhees_minions_meet_their_match_new_anti_charter_group_declares_war/ interesting
22:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Michelle Rhees minions meet their match: New anti-charter group declares war - Salon.com (at www.salon.com)
22:57 < RangerZ> Strickland is a likely VP canidate if not choice in 2016 (b/c he was Ohio's governor) and is very strong among both liberals and swing voters.... so intersting to see him step into this role
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