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00:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> *shrugs* honestly... I think TSA is a joke, we need to un-privatize it, and then maybe it will be able to held to account for how shitty it works
00:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> AFAIK almost every employee is just a 'contractor' hired through companies, etc
00:21 < aestetix_> you know
00:22 < aestetix_> It would be awesome if states started passing laws saying that things like FISA don't apply to them
00:22 < aestetix_> "nope, the NSA cannot wiretap us."
00:25 < aestetix_> penis
00:27 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: you fail at constitutional law.
00:28 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: gonna cite the supremacy clause at me?
00:28 <@Corydon76-home> I don't have to.  The FISA court deals with foreign surveillance, a power that is exclusively delegated to the federal government
00:30 < RangerZ|Laptop> and its been ruled fine to wiretap someone talking to a "nasty foreigner" duh...
00:30  * Bahhumbug thinks the federal government defines 'foreign' differently than I do
00:31 <@Corydon76-home> Article I, Section 10
00:31 < RangerZ|Laptop> also, only non-libertarian US Citizens get to have rights
00:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> new rule, just to screw with aestetix_, b/c he feels like a lot of laws are made just to do that
00:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> so we might as well make a few
00:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> actually... I'd propose so fucking hilarious bills if I was in congress
00:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> i would only last 1 term
00:33 < RangerZ|Laptop> but it would be so worth it
00:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> a renters or sales tax on a 4th domiciles
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00:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> and everything else possible to just piss off people, lol
00:34 < RangerZ|Laptop> actually a 30% sin tax on handguns, that goes to support outreach of LBGT in Africa
00:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> to support them going to higher ed
00:35 < RangerZ|Laptop> or "recruiting the gay" as they are claiming now over there....
00:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> but thats actually not what I'd "really" propose... hehe... I'd actually work to limit government (esp. state & local, which I fear will be on the uprise more now than federal b/c economies of scale actually hurts the federal level, but will be much more mang. at city levels.... for facial tracking/geo tagging/etc..)  spying on citizens and what not
00:45 <@NotLarry> ok, I'm too lazy to dig up the original - http://i.imgur.com/pTcgnai.jpg
01:20 < aestetix_> I'm not a libertarian
01:20 < aestetix_> I just have this idealistic notion that law should follow some kind of logical order.
01:51 < RangerZ|Laptop> haha
01:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> they DO follow a logical order
01:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> the orders of whoever has the most money
01:52 < RangerZ|Laptop> geeze
02:10 < aestetix_> well I did donate to Larry Lessig's thing
02:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> so...
02:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> I just had an idea...
02:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> would it be "wrong" of me ... to make youtube videos, explaining stuff for a class... and then turn on monetization for those videos... and then make them required viewing for the MOOC students?
02:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> 200k views
02:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> hehehe
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03:57 <@Dagmar> http://www.wtvf.com/story/25951420/midstate-tough-mudder-race-participant-claims-to-have-contracted-skin-infection
03:57 <@GateKeeper> Title: Midstate "Tough Mudder" Race Participant Claims To Have Contract - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.wtvf.com)
03:57 <@Dagmar> .When you have that many people in the area, you're supposed to keep things like that clean,. Sweatt said.
03:58 <@Dagmar> YOU
03:58 <@Dagmar> YOU'RE DOING AN OBSTACLE COURSE THAT IS 90% MUD, FUCKWIT
03:59 <@Bahhumbug> But it should be _clean_ mud.
03:59 <@Dagmar> Clearly, there needs to be more incentive to hurry... like random shootings
04:01 <@Dagmar> Also everyone exiting the obstacle course should be given a thorough scrub down with hot water and steel brushes
04:04 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps add salt to the water?
04:06 <@Dagmar> Or don't let idiots go home and lie around for hours covered in mud
04:07 <@Dagmar> You don't just "get" scabies from touching mud
04:10 <@Bahhumbug> Mud doesn't sound like a particularly good environment for the mites.
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05:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> well first of all... fuck CNN's website
05:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/tech/2014/05/23/cot-philly-smart-trash.cnn.html there is a video on here called "Can surveillance make life easier?"
05:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Smart garbage: The future of stink - CNN.com Video (at www.cnn.com)
05:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> aestetix_: ^
05:36 < RangerZ|Laptop> Dagmar: BEST part was his "i wanted to push myself to the limit"
05:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> "The newest oldest American Alive"
05:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> wait...
05:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> doesn't that mean the previous oldest just died?
07:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:25  * aestetix_ hugs Dolemite 
07:30 <@Dolemite> Oh don't even try to suck up to me.  I was in SF all last week and you didn't come see me.
07:52 < aestetix_> You never called :/
07:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> morning Dolemite
07:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> you never called me either :(
07:55 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
07:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> so getting all the things I consider useful that I might need for 2~(unknown) weeks out of my apt... and into my car
07:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> SUCKS ASS
07:58 < RangerZ|Laptop> http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25944699/2-injured-after-apartment-stairwell-collapses
07:58 <@GateKeeper> Title: 2 Injured After Apartment Stairwell Collapses - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.newschannel5.com)
07:59 < RangerZ|Laptop> NO idea how long it'll take to fix... and wasn't even suppose to be in my apt at all... but wtf... I can't pack up in 10min
08:00 < RangerZ|Laptop> I wasn't one of the 2 injured (and they are both already fine, no broken bones or anything, other than maybe some broken toes)... so perfect lawsuit condition
08:00 <@evilpig> so where are you supposed to go for two weeks?
08:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> they got us a CRAP hotel
08:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> up near rivergate mall
08:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> I had to check to make sure there wasn't bed bugs, etc...
08:01 <@Dolemite> RangerZ|Laptop: Of COURSE they did!  The shittier the hotel, the less they admit to having any liability in the matter
08:01 < RangerZ|Laptop> ehh
08:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> I honestly don't care that much
08:02 < RangerZ|Laptop> Once the building inspector they are getting out today. says its ok, I'll fucking climb into/out of my apartment
08:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I'm afraid the support beams above the concrete blocks&foundation are COMPLETELY rotted
08:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> so we'll see
08:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> fucking building in the south
08:05 < RangerZ|Laptop> never follows best practices
08:06 < RangerZ|Laptop> I didn't even SEE a moisture barrier between the concrete blocks and the wood support beams
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08:14 <@evilpig> http://www.darklegacycomics.com/447
08:14 <@GateKeeper> Title: The Measure of a Man (at www.darklegacycomics.com)
08:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> evilpig: so true... so sadly true...
08:17 < RangerZ|Laptop> which is why I stopped MMOs
08:17 <@evilpig> lies
08:18 < RangerZ|Laptop> truth
08:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> I got to the very absolute end game in FFXI, and got bored with it, I hated killing the Gods, and using that fucking Dragon Points System, which we used a modified version of it... and it fucked people even harder than the normal one
08:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> and then in WOW I got the the point where I had T2... when T3 PVP gear was out
08:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> or something
08:19 < RangerZ|Laptop> and that gear was _USELESS_ for PVE
08:20 < RangerZ|Laptop> and that just made it boring as fuck to do raids
08:21 < RangerZ|Laptop> I would rather play a single player game, and enjoy a good strong story, than deal with quests that are designed to make me play every single day... no... matter...what... or else you fall behind...
08:22 < RangerZ|Laptop> but I gotta head out, later
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09:48 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/07/new-wireless-onboarding/
09:48 <@GateKeeper> Title: Vanderbilt IT launching new, more secure wireless solution | myVU | Vanderbilt University (at news.vanderbilt.edu)
09:48 <@Dagmar> Are you excited?   I know I'm excited.
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09:50 <@evilpig> not as excited as I am about hte new phreaknic website! http://phreaknic.info
09:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: PhreakNIC 18, Halloween weekend, Nashville (at phreaknic.info)
09:50 <@Dickie> Nashville?
09:50 <@evilpig> oh... wait.  same site as before
09:51 <@evilpig> I'm sure there's a great excuse coming though
09:51 <@Dolemite> No, they actually state on the website, now that the panel and schedule info will launch on July 4th
09:51 <@Dagmar> I'm not going to ask about the grey borders
09:52  * Dolemite looks at calendar
09:52 <@evilpig> Dagmar: that was the temporary placeholder I put up back in november
09:52 <@Dickie> Who is "they"?
09:52 <@Dickie> AND HOW CAN I PUNISH THEM
09:52 <@evilpig> one of them went in last month and changed the text on it
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09:53 <@Dagmar> <!-- you really shouldn't strip out the original author's signature -->
09:53 <@Dickie> God, I hate "them".
09:54 <@Dagmar> I plan on saying something about that at the meeting
09:54 <@Dagmar> Actually I plan on being a dick about it at the meeting
09:55 <@Dolemite> I'm not going to ask about it on IRC, because I've been told that asking for status updates is demoralizing
09:55 <@Dagmar> I also intend to be a 40-foot tall fire-breathing dick if someone mentions fucking Wordpress again
09:55 <@evilpig> it's not wordpress.  it's drupal!
09:55 <@Dickie> I hear "they" eat chicken fetuses in China.
09:55 <@Dagmar> Because yes, I can in fact, put up a fucking website quicker than is being done now
09:56 <@Dagmar> If there is one bit of live code exposed to the internet, asses will be beaten
09:56 <@Dickie> And "they" cut off rhino horns while they're still alive.
09:56 <@Dagmar> Fucking CRM
09:56 <@Dagmar> er CMS bullshit
09:56 <@evilpig> Dagmar: https://github.com/logickal/pn-18
09:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: logickal/pn-18 · GitHub (at github.com)
09:56 <@evilpig> go nuts!
09:56 <@Dagmar> No they can have it offline
09:56 <@Dagmar> If the live site contains a fucking bit of live code, asses will be chewed
09:58 <@Dagmar> We're not going to be in the habit of maintaining Drupal indefinitely
09:58 <@Dagmar> Fuck that
09:58 <@Dagmar> ...and if they managed to _not_ explain this to Jeremy then fuck them
09:59 <@evilpig> I can guarantee they didn't explain that
10:00 <@evilpig> benthemeek actually built up a wordpress site that looked decent and was exported to static html that loaded like lightning
10:03 <@evilpig> on another topic.  my left knee is swollen and throbbing.  is it supposed to rain up here today?
10:04 <@Dickie> Lupus
10:04 < aestetix_> evilpig: rub it, let it squirt, and then you'll feel better
10:04 < aestetix_> That's the recommendation from dr. penis
10:05 <@evilpig> I don't think my knee will squirt
10:06 <@Dickie> You gotta teach yourself how to do it
10:06 <@Dolemite> Depends on how much fluid is built up
10:06 <@shapr> good morning!
10:07 < aestetix_> that's what you get for using github
10:08 <@Dickie> We're up all night to github
10:08 < aestetix_> https://github.com/logickal/pn-18/pull/1 enjoy
10:08 <@GateKeeper> Title: Update CHANGELOG.txt by aestetix · Pull Request #1 · logickal/pn-18 · GitHub (at github.com)
10:11 <@evilpig> haha
10:11 < aestetix_> you nkow
10:12 < aestetix_> it would be funny to write a script to go around adding the word "vagina" to random github repositories
10:12 <@Dickie> "funny"
10:12 < aestetix_> or like
10:12 < aestetix_> "var vagina = 0;"
10:12 < aestetix_> unused variables that break testing
10:14 <@evilpig> surely nobody would actually accept those submissions
10:14 <@Dickie> He just wants to get blacklisted
10:14 < aestetix_> evilpig: it would be hilarious if someone did
10:16 <@Corydon76-home> It would be even more hilarious if your chosen name got blacklisted from multiple services
10:17 < aestetix_> Like it got blacklisted from Quora?
10:17 <@Dickie> nym rights, bro
10:18 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: do you have zits on your ass?
10:18 <@Corydon76-home> I see a future definition for aestetix in the urban dictionary.  Synonym for troll.
10:19 < aestetix_> like Dolemite
10:20 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite is already a mineral
10:20 <@Dickie> sick burn
10:20 <@evilpig> *sigh*  how did someone get a glob of thermal compound on the bottom of this processor?
10:20 <@evilpig> Corydon76-home: dolomite is a mineral.  dolemite is still just a dick
10:20 <@Corydon76-home> evilpig: by fapping?
10:20 <@Corydon76-home> You just think it's thermal compound
10:22 < aestetix_> http://www.wired.com/2014/07/hacking-google-maps/
10:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: How Google Map Hackers Can Destroy a Business at Will | Business | WIRED (at www.wired.com)
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10:22 < aestetix_> I think that will actually become a big deal
10:22 <@evilpig> Corydon76-home: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b7ik9dkft1dtp72/2014-07-07%2010.22.09.jpg
10:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-07-07 10.22.09.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
10:22 <@evilpig> if that's from fapping they need to seek medical attention immediately
10:23 <@Corydon76-home> Now that's talent right there.
10:24 <@Corydon76-home> Ship it back to Dell?
10:24 <@evilpig> probably gonna have to.  attempting to clean now
10:24 <@evilpig> at least modern processors are flat
10:24 <@evilpig> ish
10:26 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
10:26 <@Dagmar> Fucking dell
10:27 <@Dagmar> Rubbing alcohol will get that off but jesus
10:27 < aestetix_> evilpig: that seems bad
10:27 <@evilpig> I don't think this was on dell
10:27 <@evilpig> pretty sure it was someone here
10:27 <@evilpig> I got most of it off, but it is discolored where it was so there has to be some down in between the posts even if just a residue
10:28 <@Corydon76-home> evilpig: but if Dell will replace the computer under warranty...
10:28 <@evilpig> yeah they will
10:28 <@evilpig> I can check out a new processor from the parts locker if needed
10:29 <@evilpig> it doesn't show in the picture but I can see it in person. https://www.dropbox.com/s/41z1cf8yiyyrgcr/2014-07-07%2010.28.19.jpg
10:29 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-07-07 10.28.19.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
10:29 <@Corydon76-home> I doubt it's worth your time to do that level of diagnosis, if Dell will just replace it
10:29 <@evilpig> it's the one on the left
10:29 <@evilpig> I have  apile of parts from several nodes here.   today my goal is to get them all put back together then start to troubleshoot what is good and what is bad
10:30 <@Corydon76-home> I doubt you'll get rid of the discoloration without hitting it with a good stream of water
10:30 <@Dagmar> You sure about that?
10:31 <@Dagmar> Did Dell stop using thermal paste like toothpaste when I wasn't looking?
10:31 <@shapr> Most of the CPUs I've seen lately use a square of thermal paste that looks more like tape.
10:32 <@evilpig> shapr: new ones, yes
10:32 <@evilpig> if you need to replace a fan or something they still send a little tube of thermal compound
10:34 <@Dagmar> Ugh the lazy-ass thermal-pad
10:34 <@Dagmar> The thermal pad is actually almost as bad
10:35 <@Dagmar> The deal is this... you *want* metal-to-metal conduction, but that's not entirely practical in some cases because neither surface is always going to be as perfectly flat as all that
10:36 <@Dagmar> There won't be much gap, but there's likely to be gap, and that gap will be filled with air, which is a very poor thermal conductor
10:36 <@Dagmar> Enter, thermal paste compound
10:36 <@Dagmar> It's _not_ as efficient as metal-to-metal, but considerably better than air
10:36 <@Dagmar> ...so you want as *little as possible* actually.
10:37 <@Dagmar> FOr awhile Dell was slathering so much paste in there fucking CPUs were sitting on a 2mm-3mm thick blob of it, which would under high-heat conditions, liquefy and run out, leaving massive air-gap channels
10:37 <@shapr> sounds terrible
10:38 <@Dagmar> The thermal pad mess is much less than that, but it's still almost by definition too much paste
10:38 <@Dagmar> http://www.break.com/video/air-show-performance-with-shocking-ending-2
10:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Funny Videos, Funny Clips & Funny Pictures | Break.com (at www.break.com)
10:38 <@Dagmar> Ignore that bullshit mis-paste
10:38 <@evilpig> was about to say.  that link is broken
10:38 <@Dagmar> shapr: That overpaste issue killed almost ever Optiplex that Dell sold to the HIll Center
10:39 <@Dagmar> All within two years so the joke's on them
10:39 <@Dagmar> Except since i"m an asshole, I took the one that was on my desk apart, cleaned that shit out of there, and redid it properly
10:55 <@evilpig> we're gonna call this.  how to turn a bad riser, a 30 second fix, into a bad motherboard and an award for stupidity
10:55 <@evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ofg8e1hux5jpjsr/2014-07-07%2010.54.53.jpg
10:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-07-07 10.54.53.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
10:56 <@Dagmar> Yeah it makes so much sense to put pins on motherboards
11:00 <@evilpig> riser is done, even the paperwork.  now to deal with the stupidity portion of this one
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11:13 <@shapr> evilpig: Did you bend those pins?
11:13 <@evilpig> not I.
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11:23 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: A new study says that it's harder to find an apartment in Nashville than it is in San Francisco: http://nashvillepublicradio.org/blog/2014/07/07/rent-middle-tennessee-keeps-getting-expensive-apartments-harder-find/
11:24 <@evilpig> Corydon76-home: a recent news report shows that apartments in nashville are in a hazardous state of disrepair.  ;)
11:25 <@Dagmar> There's a lot of empty places in San Francisco.  Not so much in Nashville
11:25 <@Corydon76-home> evilpig: with such a high occupancy rate, it's not going to get any better.  There's no motivation for owners to fix the apartments if a shortage is the problem
11:26 <@Mirage> evilpig: duh
11:26 <@Dagmar> The condos where I live don't go empty for a full month when someone moves out
11:26 <@evilpig> I dunno.  someone getting trapped under the rubble of stairs that collapse seems like a pretty good lawsuit coming and that should be incentive
11:26 <@Corydon76-home> evilpig: apartments have lawsuit insurance
11:27 <@Dagmar> "rubble" is a pretty fancy word for what happened
11:27 <@Dagmar> There were stairs... and a mattress teh peeople involved were moving
11:27 <@Dagmar> ...which, heh, they got trapped *under* according to the news article.
11:27 <@Corydon76-home> Unless the insurance company says "Fix that, or we're not covering it", it's more expensive to fix it than to file an insurance claim
11:28 <@Mirage> Until there's a fire..then they finally get around to maintenance
11:29 <@Mirage> I had to raise hell at my old complex to get them to fix/replace the fridge that made loud nasty noises, fix the water leak by the fireplace that was causing black mold in the carpet, and finally to replace said carpet.
11:41 <@Dolemite> 'lawsuit insurance' doesn't cover negligence
11:42 <@brimstone> BLACK MOLD
11:42 <@brimstone> not as intimidating as black flag
11:42 <@Dolemite> only if you're a cockroach
11:44 <@brimstone> or Adam Ant, i guess
11:54 <@oddball> Yeah... black mold is one of those things that you can say "fix it, or I call the health dept."
12:02 <@rattle> I'm seeing a business opportunity here..  Spray-On Black Mold?..
12:02 <@rattle> Want a new fridge?  No problem!  Spray-On Black Mold?
12:03 <@rattle> Want the super to replace that carpet?  No problem!  Spray-On Black Mold?
12:03 <@oddball> There have been mold removal companies that have been caught doing "Free inspections" by coming in and basically lightly hitting walls in the basement with a Sharpie.
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12:59 <@Bahhumbug> In the Nobody Probably Cares department...  CentOS-7 will be officially announced momentarily; torrents and ISOs are already available to the public, however, and most mirrors have been bit-flipped.
13:00 <@Corydon76-home> http://gaysomecomic.tumblr.com/image/56135016362 SFW
13:00 <@GateKeeper> Title: Gaysome! : Photo (at gaysomecomic.tumblr.com)
13:01 <@Bahhumbug> Speaking of tumblr...  evilpig: http://imgur.com/gallery/1Tk9yJs
13:01 <@GateKeeper> Title: Tumblr-4chan War Results - Imgur (at imgur.com)
13:15 <@Dagmar> Those are two groups I'd actually like to see square off against one another.
13:16 <@Dagmar> PROVIDED LETHAL WEAPONS ARE INVOLVED
13:17 <@shapr> yay?
13:18 <@rattle> Lame.  Back in the day, IRC wars would knock whole countries off line.  Kids today don't have no balls.
13:18 <@rattle> GET OFF MY LAWN!
13:18 <@Dagmar> rattle: AGREED
13:19 <@Dagmar> To brighten your day, I bring you proof that it doesn't only happen in anime: http://imgur.com/gallery/9TRSkHN
13:19 <@GateKeeper> Title: Totally meant to do that - Imgur (at imgur.com)
13:20 <@evilpig> Bahhumbug: I watched some of that happen live this weekend
13:20 <@rattle> Neither of them had a sudden nosebleed.
13:20 <@evilpig> dan and I were just talking about that and wanting to see the trust and safety ticket numbers this week
13:28 <@Dagmar> Is it just me or was tomaw going for 100% typos?
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13:31 <@Bahhumbug> Hahaha
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13:32 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, I forgot about this.
13:32 <@Bahhumbug> @google translate FI EN Katselemme toisiamme, minä ja peikko; lampun valo luo ympärilleni vaalean sädekehän ja Pessi erottuu vieressäni tummana siluettina; me katsomme toisiimme ja peiliin ja toisiimme.
13:33 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: We look at each other , me and the troll ; the lamp light to create a halo around the light and Pessi stands next to a dark silhouette ; we look at each other and in the mirror and to each other .
13:39 <@evilpig> Bahhumbug: wtf?
13:42 <@Bahhumbug> Its a translation of the WALLOP from earlier.
13:51 <@evilpig> I missed the wallop
13:52 <@Dolemite> @google translate ES EN Yo quiero Taco Bell
13:52 <@GateKeeper> Dolemite: Yo quiero Taco Bell
13:52 <@evilpig> hahaha
13:52 <@Dolemite> Prezactly!
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13:55 <@Dolemite> @google translate SE EN Verm de do va doom va dishkedo, bork! bork! bork!
13:55 <@GateKeeper> Dolemite: Verm do the va va doom dishkedo , bork ! bork ! bork !
13:55 <@Dolemite> Useless
13:56 <@Dolemite> Thats' real bonafide Swedish right there!
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14:00 <@evilpig> you've been watching the muppets too much
14:05 <@Mirage> Dagmar: Pegasus 2.0 released, huh?
14:07 <@oddball> I am remembering correctly that PN not only has a "cleanliness" policy but has actually enforced it once or twice in the past?
14:07 <@Dolemite> you recall correctly
14:08 <@evilpig> oddball: correct
14:08 <@oddball> I also remember the particular individual that caused that policy to be enacted.
14:09 <@evilpig> oddball: what brought that up?
14:10 <@oddball> Oh, FB friend stating that they were thinking it would be awesome to have a 21 and up con where everyone was drunk and deoderant was mandatory.
14:10 <@Mirage> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20070716
14:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del - Stink (2007-07-16) (at www.cad-comic.com)
14:10 <@oddball> I basically replied that I've been to that convention.
14:11 <@oddball> Hell, there are some cons (Dragoncon) where showering multiple times a day is not a bad idea.
14:12 <@Mirage> oddball: multiple parners in the shower optional
14:12 <@oddball> true
14:12 <@evilpig> lol
14:14 <@oddball> On a side note, a friend of mine recently made the realization that he's had two friends meet their future spouse at a con while sharing a room with him.  In one case, the new couple ended up in his room (me and Naienko), and the other case had the girl grab her stuff and move into the guy's room.
14:17 <@evilpig> you should probably pin a note to his shirt to discourage other folks from sharing a room with him
14:17 <@oddball> Also, there is apparently a meetup group in Nashville for "geeks over 25."  Their mission statement says that they started because it's hard to find adult geeks.  Really?  Have they looked with their eyes?
14:18 <@oddball> evilpig: heh
14:18 <@Dagmar> There's also that there's less temptation to murder the candy kids
14:18 <@Dagmar> <WhoreInGlasses> I'm a geek
14:18 <@Dagmar> Yes, I *do* judge
14:19 <@Dolemite> Well the meetup could have been started by Anarchival, because it's hard to find adult geeks that don't want to kill her.
14:19 <@Dagmar> <-- no surprise to this guy
14:19 <@oddball> Now... if is hot chick in serious cosplay gear, then... no judging from me. :)
14:20 <@Dagmar> Provided she made it herself
14:20 <@Dagmar> ...or she commissioned it and made at least two other, lesser quality costumes herself
14:20 <@oddball> But if the phrase "OMg, I'm, like, a total geek" escapes her mouth...
14:20 <@evilpig> I can't even type that
14:20 <@evilpig> I did just try
14:21 <@oddball> Dagmar: Right, which is a very high percentage of the ones I encounter at conventions.
14:21 <@oddball> evilpig: heh.
14:21 <@Dagmar> ...or if they're cosplaying as NakedGIrl
14:21 <@oddball> most cons have the rule "no costume is no costume."
14:22 <@Dagmar> What fun is that
14:22 <@oddball> Dagmar clearly needs to go to Frolicon.
14:22 <@Dagmar> What about the presence of a Magical Navel Jewel
14:22 <@Dagmar> ...the source of NakedGirls power?
14:22 <@Mirage> Dagmar: watch what you say about <WhoreInGlasses>, she could wind up as one of your friend's wife
14:23 <@Dagmar> Hey man your wife seemed to be a nice lady
14:23 <@evilpig> his wife is a geek
14:23 <@oddball> My wife?  Oh hell yes, she's a geek.
14:23 <@Mirage> Yeah, if solitaire and mahjong count, she's a hardcore gamer.
14:23 <@Dagmar> heheh
14:24 <@evilpig> oddball: not you... mirage
14:24 <@evilpig> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad
14:24 <@GateKeeper> Title: Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown Kickstarter (at www.kickstarter.com)
14:27 <@oddball> ah
14:29 <@Mirage> evilpig: wtf...$10k.  They apparently need to add an IQ test or something to kickstarter.
14:30 <@oddball> Makes me wish I had thought of it.
14:31 <@Mirage> Lol, each level of donation states "and I will say your name out loud while making the potato salad" and almost 1500 backers so far...
14:31 <@oddball> I know a number of folks that will throw money/man power/etc and retarded things simply because they're retarded.
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14:38 <@Mirage>  [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-7 on x86_64
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14:50 <@Corydon76-home> evilpig: I told you what to make.  Go for it.
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16:05 <@evilpig> well fuck
16:05 <@evilpig> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2679686/Radio-host-unleashes-racist-Twitter-tirade-punched-face-black-woman-Times-Square.html
16:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: Anthony Cumia fired following racist Twitter tirade against black woman | Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk)
16:06 <@Corydon76-home> Stupid fucker did it publically instead of saving it for paying customers
16:09 <@evilpig> I saw the tweets and honestly... so fucking what
16:10 <@Corydon76-home> The really stupid thing is that there's absolutely nowhere for him to go.  Satellite radio was where people go after they've been fined by the FCC repeatedly for public airwaves violations
16:10 <@evilpig> just another case of public outcry for stupidity and a company pulling a knee jerk reaction that is ridiculous
16:10 <@Corydon76-home> This is not the first time Sirius got on his case about the public shit
16:11 <@Corydon76-home> He probably assured them it would never happen again.
16:12 <@Corydon76-home> However, it's not like he's hurting for money.  He can probably just retire from doing the morning show and go on the lecture circuit
16:13 <@Corydon76-home> Maybe he could do a podcast and let Apple sell the subscriptions
16:14 <@evilpig> he has one
16:14 <@evilpig> "live from the compound"
16:17 <@Corydon76-home> So when are you doing your Rice Krispy Treat Kickstarter, Pig?
16:18 <@evilpig> i'll consider it when I get that free time stuff I hear tales about
16:19 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: not sure about the ones in Nashville, but "Spencers" here had quite the assorment of penis oriented items for sale in the adult section last week when we went in and looked around.
16:19 <@Mirage> evilpig: yeah, it takes so long to make Rice Krispy Treats
16:21 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: Yep, seen them
16:24 <@Mirage> I'm sure you have a more than adequate supply already for b-day parties, etc...just thought I'd mention it.
16:24 <@Corydon76-home> Nah, no point in buying anything like that until you're ready to party
16:24 <@Corydon76-home> I mean, other than the cookie cutters and cake pan
16:42 <@evilpig> i'm ready to party, but not with penises
16:42 <@evilpig> no.
16:49 < aestetix_> hi
16:50 <@Corydon76-home> evilpig: you had to summon him, didn't you?
16:50 <@evilpig> that really shouldn't summon him
16:50 <@evilpig> andI only said it once
17:01 <@Bahhumbug> mercster
17:01 <@Bahhumbug> mercster
17:01 <@Bahhumbug> m
17:01 <@Bahhumbug> er
17:01 <@Bahhumbug> cste
17:01  * Corydon76-home shoots Bahhumbug
17:01 <@Bahhumbug> r
17:02 <@evilpig> playing with fire
17:02 <@Corydon76-home> At least he chose Mercster to summon and not ware.
17:03 <@evilpig> or cerkit
17:03 <@evilpig> or skydick
17:03 <@evilpig> or crazypants
17:03 <@Corydon76-home> or eryc
17:04 <@evilpig> what was skydicks apprentice? skiboy?
17:04 <@Corydon76-home> I actually met him in person at BSides
17:04 <@Bahhumbug> I pushed for crazy bitch's removal harder than anyone so it is quite unlikely that I would ever wish her to return.
17:05 <@Bahhumbug> The other ones might prove entertaining for some small period of time.
17:05 <@Bahhumbug> Or not.
17:05 <@evilpig> they all have the entertainment value of brain cancer
17:05 <@Corydon76-home> Skiboy is actually more earnest than we gave him credit for
17:06 <@Bahhumbug> @quote add <@evilpig> they all have the entertainment value of brain cancer
17:06 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: By your command  Quote #57 added.
17:06 <@Bahhumbug> I reserve the right to use that out of context.
17:06 <@evilpig> have to take your word on that.  he was annoying as shit
17:06 <@evilpig> i'm outta here.  later bitches!
17:07 <@Bahhumbug> There was a skiboy?  Really?
17:07  * Corydon76-home sends Skiboy to New Jersey
17:07 <@Dickie> Send him to Atlanta
17:07  * Dickie nudges brimstone
17:08 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, rich kid from Hendersonville, whose father apparently was able to get him out of multiple kinds of trouble
17:08 <@Bahhumbug> Well... isn't that special?
17:09 <@Corydon76-home> And as you well know, that kind of parental asshattery means the kid is ruined.
17:09 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
17:09 <@Corydon76-home> Because he doesn't have the good sense not to fuck around
17:09 <@Bahhumbug> Did he, at least, get beaten up a lot?
17:09 <@Corydon76-home> I have no idea
17:09 < aestetix_> who is skiboy?
17:10 <@Corydon76-home> Read up
17:10 <@Bahhumbug> And I very much like the term "parental asshattery".
17:10 <@Dagmar> Oh look
17:10 <@Dagmar> IBM are a bag of dicks http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC96809
17:10 <@GateKeeper> Title: IBM IC96809: EXTRANEOUS CIPHER SUITES ACTIVE AFTER ENABLING SSL - United States (at www-01.ibm.com)
17:11 <@brimstone> Atlanta!
17:12 <@Dagmar> It would be a real shame if this fell into the hands of Tom Cross.
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17:12 <@Corydon76-home> Not only that, but I'm pretty sure Skiboy is still 17
17:12 <@Bahhumbug> Then there is hope for him to be beaten up more often.
17:12 <@Bahhumbug> Excellent.
17:12 <@Corydon76-home> I have a sneaking suspicion that SkyDick sent him here to see if I would try to fuck him
17:13 <@Bahhumbug> Don't know the guy... but from pretty much _everything_ I've heard that sounds pretty much right up his alley.
17:14 <@Dickie> Then what would happen?
17:14 <@Dickie> I dont' get it. What's the end game?
17:14 <@Dickie> lol Corydon76-home is gay lol told u so
17:14 <@Corydon76-home> Dickie: what, fucking an underage boy?
17:14 <@Dickie> pffffft
17:15 <@Dickie> Pretty sure age of consent is like 16 or something
17:15 <@Corydon76-home> I have desire for prison, so I don't touch kids that young
17:15 <@Dickie> unless you're his teacher or something
17:15 <@Dickie> I don't know how TN works
17:15 <@Corydon76-home> It is 16 in Alabama, but it's 18 in Tennessee
17:15 <@Corydon76-home> Err, no desire
17:15 <@Dickie> Which makes the morality arbitrary
17:16 <@Corydon76-home> I try to be aware of shit like that, because I'm not about to tempt fate.
17:17 <@Dickie> But if you're gay, then you want to sex all the men, right?
17:17 <@Dickie> Right?
17:17 <@Corydon76-home> Only you, Dickie, only you.
17:17 <@Dickie> I bet you say that to all the girls.
17:18 <@Corydon76-home> Actually, there's an 18yo kid in our neighborhood who has the hots for Peaches and me, both, so, maybe
17:20 <@Dickie> As long as everyone's having good, safe fun.
17:20 < aestetix_> Take pictures.
17:20 <@Dickie> You have my blessing.
17:21 <@Corydon76-home> If we brought him to PhreakNIC, he'd be the con slut.
17:22 < aestetix_> Hmm.
17:22 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: could I slap him in the face a few times?
17:22 <@Corydon76-home> Given the way he's built, I daresay that if you slap him, he'll punch you into next week
17:23 <@Dickie> haaaawt
17:23 < aestetix_> I wouldn't slap him until he's sufficiently tied up
17:23 <@Corydon76-home> That's between you and him.  I will not be involved with such.
17:24 < aestetix_> And then you could poop in his mouth
17:25 <@Corydon76-home> Seriously?
17:25 <@Corydon76-home> After you've been around, anal sex simply isn't shocking anymore.  You're ruining my schtick!
17:25 <@Dickie> So, serious question: is aestetix_ like 9?
17:26 <@Dickie> semi-serious*
17:26 < aestetix_> no
17:26 < aestetix_> 13
17:26 <@Corydon76-home> That's his shoe size.  His dick is 4 inches.
17:29 <@Dickie> Let's not judge too harshly.
17:29 < aestetix_> 4 inches wide
17:31 <@Dickie> My shoe size is 8 :-/
17:32 <@Dickie> I've worn 9s. Shoes are dumb.
17:33 < aestetix_> I'm reading a thread about the church's response to sex offender issues
17:33 < aestetix_> And it's funny people keep saying the church needs to turn people into the "authorities"
17:33 < aestetix_> Like they don't realize the vatican is a sovereign nation
17:34 < aestetix_> That's like telling the king of france that he needs to turn in abusers to the german authorities
17:35  * aestetix_ marvels at how much Vatican 2 fucked things up
17:37 <@Dagmar> Dickie is so large it sounds like he's been inhaling sodium gas when he speaks
17:37 <@Dagmar> He is a *mountain* of a man
17:37 <@Dagmar> You do *not* want to fuck with him, aestetix
17:37 <@Dagmar> One smack from him and your name would be aeix
17:49 < aestetix_> So, I'm trying to figure out if Americans these days are actually stupider, or if they are stupider about certain things.
17:50 < aestetix_> IE if we got rid of the media machine and actually taught in schools, would people become smarter again
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18:03 <@Corydon76-home> Uh, we _do_ teach in schools.  The problem isn't there.  The problem is that we have parents who don't value the education and that apathy rubs off on the kids
18:04 <@Corydon76-home> It's this whole parental rights movement which is bullshit.  Your ignorance is not equal to my education.
18:05 <@Corydon76-home> We _would_ have had a good way to fix this if it weren't for the South fucking with the blacks after the Civil War.
18:05 <@Corydon76-home> As it stands, the South fucked over the rest of the nation by coming up with bullshit literacy tests as a way to prevent blacks from voting.  Now we NEED literacy tests, and we can't do that, because of that asshattery
18:06 <@Dagmar> aestetix_: I think it's a matter of a fallacy of availability, mostly
18:06 <@Dagmar> They probably *are* getting stupider, but we're also being exposed to *lots* more stupid people, which makes it look worse
18:06 < aestetix_> Corydon76-home: wouldn't it be in the interest of the parents to have their kids be as smart as possible?
18:07 <@Dagmar> Sure, if you want a bunch of disillusioned, angry kids running around
18:08 <@Dagmar> The smarter a kid is, the more likely they're going to be angry when they figure out just how much of a bunch of lies they were told about economic and social mobility
18:08 <@Corydon76-home> A lot of conservative parents literally do NOT want their kids to be smarter than they are
18:08 < aestetix_> Then..... why not be upfront with the kid from the beginning?
18:08 <@Corydon76-home> Again, they don't want the kids to be smarter than they are
18:08 <@Dagmar> Because you'd still get angry, disenfranchised kids, and now you'd be a terrorist for training them to hate the government.
18:09 <@Corydon76-home> It's fucking ego is what it is
18:09 <@Dagmar> ...that and they can't as easily control children they can't outwit
18:09 <@Dagmar> They'd have to rely on having taught them _morals_ and _ethics_
18:09 <@Corydon76-home> Lefties understand that for society to advance, every generation MUST be smarter than the one before
18:09 < aestetix_> So they have no long term strategy in their thinking?
18:09 <@Dagmar> ...which are hard to teach on the best of days.
18:10 <@Corydon76-home> Nope
18:10 <@Dagmar> Long term strategy requires long term thinking which leads to disappointment and disillusionment.
18:10 <@Corydon76-home> "I got mine; fuck you if you can't get yours"
18:10 <@Dagmar> EVerything's geared for quick return on investment so they can take the money and run
18:10 <@Dagmar> Only corporations are allowed to plan long term, and for them that typically means two, possibly three financial periods.
18:11 <@Corydon76-home> Yep, 18 months of planning, at best
18:11 < aestetix_> Because in the long term, if you make your kids dumb, they will make their kids even dumber, and it leads to a cycle whereby people eventually lose faith in the entire system.
18:11 <@Corydon76-home> Bingo
18:11 <@Corydon76-home> That's what's happening right now in a lot of places
18:11 <@Dagmar> Ah the rewards of allowing everything to be driven by soulless immortal amoralists.
18:12 <@Corydon76-home> We're not close to the system actually failing, though, because the system was put together by people with some long term vision, and it's somewhat resilient
18:12 < aestetix_> And when you have a generation that starts to see through the cracks, they also realize they are being exploited by others who were not so stupid.
18:12 <@Corydon76-home> The system can be buoyed if just 10% of the population cares to advance
18:12 <@Dagmar> ...which is why we need to keep track of who needs to be on the menu when society inevitably collapses.
18:13 <@Corydon76-home> However, the system cannot get BETTER unless at least 50% of the people believe in the system, even if they don't directly benefit from it
18:13 <@evilpig> Dagmar: we already have a great tracking mechanism for that.  "carry an iphone, we eat you"
18:13 <@Dagmar> I think I'll prefer to stick with only eating people who are the enslavers of humanity
18:13 < aestetix_> I am kind of wondering if the cancer that is the federal government will lead to reempowerment of the states
18:14 <@Dagmar> THey fed off us, and we'll feed on them.
18:14 <@Corydon76-home> Unfortunately, the people who most deserve to be the food for the rest of society have lots of fat and very little muscle
18:14 <@Corydon76-home> So they're completely useless.
18:15 < aestetix_> I don't think this is just the south.
18:15 < aestetix_> The bay area is full of these idiots too.
18:16 <@Dagmar> s/useless/easy to catch/
18:16 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix_: you mean the artists collectives?
18:16 < aestetix_> And occupy. And the startup dreamers
18:17 < aestetix_> The kind of idiots who think the government is an extention of their "block" button on facebook
18:19 < aestetix_> In the meantime, there is lots of anger, and now companies are starting to capitalize on that.
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18:52 < aestetix_> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2a1xt1/iama_adrian_lamo_a_former_top10_hacker_blew_the/
18:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: IamA Adrian Lamo, a former top-10 "hacker" // blew the whistle on Wikileaks. AMA! : IAmA (at www.reddit.com)
18:56 <@evilpig> I wonder if they'll rent this dog out to find missing micro-sd cards.  http://yro-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/07/06/2121248/police-using-dogs-to-sniff-out-computer-memory
18:56 <@GateKeeper> Title: Police Using Dogs To Sniff Out Computer Memory - Slashdot (at yro-beta.slashdot.org)
18:57 <@brimstone> it'll just eat them though
18:57 <@brimstone> one lick and 16GB is gone
18:57 <@brimstone> another lick and 64GB is gone
20:48 <@evilpig> btw.  the potato salad dude is up to nearly 30k now
20:52 <@Dagmar> Don't worry, kickstarter has a way of shutting that whole thing down
20:54 <@Dagmar> ...although to be honest, with the stretch goals he's set, it'll probably be the health board that'll come after him.
21:04 <@evilpig> oddball: you might be interested in this.  http://kck.st/1mUkV3M
21:04 <@GateKeeper> Title: Gravity Dice by James Kathrein Jr Kickstarter (at kck.st)
21:17 <@Dagmar> ...except they're just D6.
21:19 <@evilpig> most board games use D6
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21:37 <@brimstone> like a D6
21:37 <@brimstone> like a D6
21:42 <@oddball> evilpig: nice
21:43 <@princess_klixa> you can have virtual sex in Gary's Mod
21:43 <@oddball> Dagmar: there's a few RPGs that only use D6s
21:43 <@princess_klixa> this is what i learned today on irc
21:47 <@brimstone> princess_klixa is the same color as aestetix_
21:47 <@brimstone> i got really confused for a minute
21:47 <@princess_klixa> lol
21:48 <@princess_klixa> my irc theme makes all nicks the same color
21:48 <@princess_klixa> so i actually have to read :/
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