--- Log opened Sat Jul 05 00:00:42 2014 01:13 <@oddball> fun fact of the day: it's legal to build a gun in your basement, but not to leave a bottle of apple cider in the freezer overnight. 01:26 <@Dagmar> historical reminder: This happened, and it was awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzX0BQUNjks 01:26 <@GateKeeper> Title: 7000 Fireworks Go Off At Once due to a computer malfunction - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:27 <@Dagmar> It's like... "BEHOLD YOUR ANGRY NEW FIREWORKS GOD!" 01:27 <@oddball> Dagmar: Annnnnd someone got fucking fired. 01:27 <@Dagmar> "RAWWWWWR!" 01:27 <@Dagmar> That's a shame because it's awesome 01:27 <@Dagmar> A giant light-bulb shaped entity of hate and fire 01:28 <@Dagmar> It turned night into DAY 01:28 <@oddball> Yes, but that display cost at least tens of thousands of dollars, if not hundreds. 01:28 <@Dagmar> WORTH IT 01:29 <@oddball> if not a couple mil, 01:29 <@Dagmar> Part of the fun of fireworks is that they're dangerous 01:29 <@Dagmar> Except they're not dangerous if everything always goes right 01:30 <@Dagmar> If you think I'm kidding, tell me this is not a serial chronology of awesomeness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0mr0SShSU4 01:30 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ultimate Fireworks Fails Compilation 2013 - 2014 || Uniformedia - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:30 <@oddball> Yeah, but if you dropped a shit ton of money for a display that was supposed to go on for 15-30 minutes, and it all goes off in less than a minute? You'd be pissed. 01:30 <@Dagmar> People running for cover and shit... GREAT 01:30 <@Dagmar> If it looked like that did, no, no... I would not 01:31 <@oddball> You're not most planners. 01:31 <@Dagmar> Public fireworks displays are literally burning money in an orgiastic display at an incredibly high rate 01:31 <@oddball> true 01:32 <@Dagmar> Around 2:50 that video gets SUPER awesome 01:33 <@Dagmar> The old man in the chair... EPIC 01:34 <@oddball> oh god... 3:10 01:34 <@Dagmar> Yes another manifestation of the ANGRY FIREWORK GOD 01:38 <@Dagmar> THIs video starts with the most awesome breakdance move ever caught on video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kWb8B_fgcE 01:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ultimate Fireworks Fails Compilation || Epic Fail/Win Compilation January 2014 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:39 <@Dagmar> Dude has roman candles attached to his feet 01:39 <@Dagmar> ...while doing handspins 01:40 <@Dagmar> Also has crazy russians 01:43 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:45 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFea_HaK0UI .... 01:45 <@GateKeeper> Title: Fox News Wonders: Are Women Oppressing the Poor Mens Rights Activists? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:46 < RangerZ> i swear... I thought this "mens rights activists" were just poeple trolling at universities, just trying to piss off feminists or something... 01:46 < RangerZ> Sharia law... yeah... lets ban "that" 01:47 <@Corydon76-home> On the Internet, it mostly is 01:48 <@Corydon76-home> But like everything else, people in person are a bit more civil 01:50 <@Corydon76-home> But they do have a point, in that when it comes to matters of family and the home, courts do tend to believe women over men, in cases where the facts are in dispute. 01:50 < RangerZ> ohh i agree 01:51 < RangerZ> I actually think that abortion shouldn't be (And this is a complex statement so don't quote only part of htis) legal unless BOTH parents agree... BUT thats only after the tech exists to extract the egg and finish 'cooking it' in an incubator 01:51 <@Corydon76-home> The problem, though, is that the MRAs universalize that into a cry for "Men's Rights" instead of dealing with it as simple bias to be dealt with on an individual basis 01:52 < RangerZ> but thats more an issue of giving equal rights to both, and let either parent disavow parental rights until birth (woman included) 01:52 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: the problem with that approach is that the biological parents are held to be responsible for the welfare of the child, because "the child's best interest" is the legal standard. 01:53 < RangerZ> yes... BUT it has been argued and found valid... that if the parent doesn't want a child 01:53 < RangerZ> it CAN be "in the best interest of the child" for them not to be forced upon that person 01:54 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, but courts have also found that giving up parental rights is not sufficient not to be garnished for the support of the child 01:54 < RangerZ> in some states 01:54 < RangerZ> others do 01:54 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I'm going to assume beer is the reason you were watching that semi-literate hipster 01:54 < RangerZ> nah, I don't drink beer 01:55 <@Dagmar> drugs it is then 01:55 < RangerZ> nah, they are prescribed 01:55 < RangerZ> I have to keep most of the voices in my head quiet 01:55 <@Dagmar> That guy is a terrible speaker 01:55 < RangerZ> ohh i agree, he's their 2nd standin 01:55 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: as it takes two to tango, and as the law forces both parents to be responsible for the child, there's merit in saying that abortion should be able to be forced if the potential father doesn't want the child 01:55 <@Corydon76-home> IOW, both must agree to keep the child 01:56 < RangerZ> Corydon76-home: hence why I'd let either parent give up the rights to the fetus 01:57 < RangerZ> Mine is from a standpoint that our birth rate in the US is below 2.1, so we will eventually outlaw abortion worldwide when population rates fall too low 01:57 < RangerZ> but if we have the incubators, it won't matter 01:57 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: well. it would be MUCH more logical for the woman to sign somehting agree that she will never sue for child supprt, etc... than for a forced abortion to be allowed 01:57 < RangerZ> no reason to make the woman give up her "choice" 01:57 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: doesn't matter. The state can intercede on behalf of the child, since the child's best interests govern. 01:58 <@klixa> i think abortion is horrific...but to have it forced on a woman... that is like something form a nightmare 01:58 <@Corydon76-home> There's an artificial insemination case in Missouri right now where the state went after the biological sperm donor for child support 01:58 <@klixa> theres one in kansas like that too 01:58 < RangerZ> yeah, and my POV, doesn't "force" the abortion on anyone 01:58 <@klixa> but, the only reason its standing in kansas is because it was a DIY insemination 01:59 <@klixa> if it had been done by a doctor, they couldnt sue at all 01:59 <@klixa> in the kansas one...i know nothing about the missouri one 01:59 <@Corydon76-home> RangerZ: You could modify mine to fit yours, though, whereby the "abortion" can be averted with the other parent agreeing to take full responsibility for the child 02:00 < RangerZ> actually I'm just fine with the child being put into adoption 02:00 <@Corydon76-home> Or another person can equally avert the abortion by agreeing to take the child upon birth 02:01 <@klixa> i think abortion should only be allowed for medical reasons 02:01 <@Corydon76-home> Basically force the pro-lifers to be adoption champions, if that's how they really feel 02:01 <@klixa> unless its a morning after pill type thing 02:01 <@Corydon76-home> Morning after pill isn't an abortion 02:01 < RangerZ> "force" the children to go into state sponsored support, and you'll see hobby lobby and all the "conservatives" going out there handing out the pill, etc 02:01 < RangerZ> lol 02:01 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: depends on who you ask...lol 02:01 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: Scientific fact 02:01 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: sigh...the ultra religious people consider it abortion is all i am saying 02:02 <@klixa> well some 02:02 <@Corydon76-home> The morning after pill prevents sperm from fertilizing the egg 02:02 <@Corydon76-home> No fertilization, no baby 02:02 <@Dagmar> The religious people are basically, not very smart. 02:02 < RangerZ> supposedly... the bible says that you can kill a child up to 1 month with no consiquences, b/c it "isn't a human" 02:02 <@klixa> after birth? 02:02 <@Corydon76-home> The Bible says you can kill a child up until birth, no consequences 02:03 < RangerZ> or give your wife a "magic potion" to see if she keeps the child, and if the child dies from the poison, then she cheated on you 02:03 <@Corydon76-home> There are two requirements for Biblical life: blood and breath. 02:03 <@Corydon76-home> Fetuses do not have breath and are therefore not alive, according to the Bible 02:04 <@klixa> people just need to use birth control and then this stuff wouldnt happen 02:04 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: What about rape? 02:04 <@Corydon76-home> What about incest? 02:04 <@klixa> people need to quit getting raped 02:04 <@Corydon76-home> Easier said than done 02:05 <@klixa> rape, incest, etc does complicate things 02:05 <@Corydon76-home> People need to quit poking their noses where they don't belong 02:05 <@Corydon76-home> Medical decisions should be between a patient and doctor, period. 02:07 <@klixa> yeah, me and my doctor want to clone me... and harvest the organs of the clone...but its between me and my doctor so people should stay out of it :| 02:09 <@klixa> im too against abortion to think about it objectively 02:10 < RangerZ> sadly, just look at battlestar galactica , they outlawed abortion, b/c it would have hurt the population numbers 02:10 < RangerZ> I expect that will happen once we get the 3rd world countries out of poverty 02:10 < RangerZ> it'll take 100~200 years, maybe longer in africa/middle east b/c of relgiion 02:10 < RangerZ> and SE Asia 02:11 < RangerZ> but anyways 02:11 < RangerZ> the new transformers movie... they didn't even bother to have a good story this time 02:11 < RangerZ> and they didn't have much of the dinobots 02:11 < RangerZ> so 'ehh' at best 02:12 <@Corydon76-home> Were you ever under the impression that the Transformers had a story to begin with? 02:12 <@Corydon76-home> Understand that the whole franchise was simply a way to sell toys. 02:14 <@Dagmar> lol 02:16 <@Corydon76-home> At least Scooby Doo had a point (that capitalists are bad people). 02:17 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25 < aestetix_> penis 02:34 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 02:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 02:39 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:54 < RangerZ> 5$ says he just has a cron job that says that for him 03:26 < aestetix_> oh man 03:26 < aestetix_> fuck google chrome so hard 03:27 < aestetix_> jquery's .contains() function breaks in it :/ 03:28 <@Corydon76-home> Then that would be jquery's fault, since it aims to do the same thing across all browsers 03:30 < aestetix_> true 03:43 <@Bahhumbug> I find it amusing that you're not a fan of google yet you use their shit browser. 03:45 <@Corydon76-home> All browsers suck; it's just at certain times, some suck less than others. 03:46 <@Corydon76-home> That said, I tend to develop almost exclusively on Chrome, because the development tools really are superior. 03:57 < RangerZ> Corydon76-home: You'll like the new chrome support for showing pages in device emulated display 03:57 < RangerZ> for mobile devices, etc 04:05 < aestetix_> Bahhumbug: I don't 04:05 < aestetix_> I asked someone to test something and they were using chrome 04:05 < aestetix_> I generally use firefox 04:05 <@Bahhumbug> Ahh. 04:06 <@Bahhumbug> Ok, that's better :) 04:06 < aestetix_> Thus my annoyance. Because I had something looking really good, and instead of getting the "wow!" from my friend, it wouldn't load for them 04:07 <@Corydon76-home> Wait, you're friends with Google Chrome users? Unacceptable! 04:08 <@Corydon76-home> You know people who don't accept your propaganda at face value can't really be your friends. 04:26 < RangerZ> so anyone else gotten that "waiting for cache" on chrome? 04:26 < RangerZ> I'm getting REALLY tired of it 04:35 < RangerZ> http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/03/tesla-aims-for-affordability-with-model-e/ 04:58 < aestetix_> RangerZ: waiting for cache? 05:07 < RangerZ> yeah 05:08 < RangerZ> its a known issue chrome faces, where its cache directory gets 1) too big 2) corrupt 3) wtfbbq 05:08 < aestetix_> http://imgur.com/a/6g2YU#0 05:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: Happy 4th of July! Presidents with Boob Faces [NSFW] - Imgur (at imgur.com) 06:02 -!- ignotus-sdf [~ignotus@24.99.123.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:34 < RangerZ> holy shit... this funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZl2pYetkI 06:34 <@GateKeeper> Title: Whats The Future of the Summer Blockbuster? - IGN UK Podcast - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 06:35 < RangerZ> the first 8 min of here is NOT suppose to be in the video, they put up hot mic recordings, of them saying who sucked cocks, and other shit 08:22 < RangerZ> god I love steam summer sales, I forgot I bought a game for like 2$, and saw that it looked good, so I went to look it up, and it said "you already own this" lol 08:44 -!- Ignotus-sdf [42df3890@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.223.56.144] has joined #se2600 09:02 < Ignotus-sdf> another lovely day in the hosting mines 09:05 < Ignotus-sdf> can't seem to get a good connection to #ga2600, so I'll hang here. 09:36 <@evilpig> we're very boring 09:37 < Ignotus-sdf> that works for me. :) 09:56 < Ignotus-sdf> who is here from the 404 crew? I think I talked to brimstone yesterday. 10:16 < RangerZ> sorry, all the 404'ers died 10:16 -!- Dickie is now known as JesusHChrist 10:16 < RangerZ> HTTP said so 10:17 -!- JesusHChrist is now known as Dickie 10:17 * Dickie suckerpunches evilpig 10:17 <@Dickie> I ain't boring 10:19 < RangerZ> I think he meant the NJ contingent of se2600 10:22 < Ignotus-sdf> but did it provide a pretty picture? Yeah, now 404 is such a small area code. There was a rumor of 404 actually starting back up. 10:22 < Ignotus-sdf> I think 770 might be a good combo move. Lots of my ilk out here in the NE metro area, which is a ways out from the usual meeting place. 10:23 < Ignotus-sdf> I just don't want to stomp on anyones' toes. 10:29 < RangerZ> sorry, the 404 Meetings will be held sat nights at 9pm on the south side 10:30 < RangerZ> *knows VERY little of Atl geography... but I know enough to know thats not the 'good' side* lol 10:30 < Ignotus-sdf> heh, and you would be quite correct. 10:31 < Ignotus-sdf> right now, from what I understand, you'd have the same attendance, too. 10:32 < RangerZ> anyone know of a kill-a-watt like device to measure wall power usage ? 10:33 < RangerZ> I only seem to find 300$ specialty items (for home solar power usage) and "kill-a-watt" branded ones 10:37 < Ignotus-sdf> are you specifically avoiding killawatt? 10:37 < Ignotus-sdf> I see one at Home Depot for like, $20. 10:40 < RangerZ> no, just wondering if there was a competor, compare/contrast 10:40 < RangerZ> etc 10:40 < Ignotus-sdf> there has to be... 10:41 < RangerZ> thats what I thought... 10:41 < RangerZ> I could see a nice market for one that connected wirelessly, and would broadcast the usage once every 5min or so... 10:41 < Ignotus-sdf> have you seen this link? http://postscapes.com/smart-outlets 10:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Smart Outlets- Postscapes (at postscapes.com) 10:42 < RangerZ> no, i knew about them though, We 'made' one in a class I took... fucking matlab simulink simulations of it... 10:43 < RangerZ> i guess it "would" be a 'smart plug' at that point 10:43 < RangerZ> for some reason, I always thought of them as more of an 'actuator' role, less a sensor... *shrugs* 10:46 < RangerZ> but FYI... http://www.homedepot.com/p/Woods-Indoor-Plug-In-Digital-Wireless-Remote-with-3-Outlets-3-Pack-White-13569/203638968 10:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Woods Indoor Plug-In Digital Wireless Remote with 3-Outlets (3-Pack) - White-13569 at The Home Depot (at www.homedepot.com) 10:46 < RangerZ> these are AMAZING 10:46 < RangerZ> i got 2x sets for xmas lights/etc, but I use one set all the time for my bedroom, one for a fan and one for a floor lamp 10:47 < RangerZ> third to turn off the disco ball and lasers... but 'ehh' thats optional, for a good nights sleep 10:49 < Ignotus-sdf> wait, whuuuut? I didn't know these existed! Tesla-like. This gives me a happy. 10:50 < RangerZ> yeah... they make turning on xmas lights on the tree/etc... just so easy its a joke 10:50 < RangerZ> and then normal uses year round is really nice 10:50 <@Dagmar> How much did you pay for the one that makes stairs collapse on demand? 10:50 < RangerZ> shhh 10:50 < RangerZ> 60$ 10:51 < RangerZ> http://www.newschannel5.com/story/25944699/2-injured-after-apartment-stairwell-collapses my apt 10:51 <@Dagmar> hheheh 10:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: 2 Injured After Apartment Stairwell Collapses - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.newschannel5.com) 10:51 <@Dagmar> I almost want to do a video interview on YouTube asking you what it was like to be "trapped" 10:51 < RangerZ> and he's lucky... its one of those "i probably broke my foot... but I'm going to get a house out of this settlement" type of injuries 10:52 <@Dagmar> ...but that would be unneccessarily mocking Ch5 for what's a really tiny amount of silliness 10:52 < RangerZ> yeah 10:52 < RangerZ> I'm still there 10:52 < RangerZ> I snuck back in and have been doing laundy 10:53 <@Dagmar> If a lack of stairs is all it takes to be trapped, people need to get off the couch more often 10:53 < RangerZ> none of us even had fucking tooth brushes, etc 10:53 < Ignotus-sdf> lol. what's sad is that this story bristles with logic compared to many here in ATL. So this was local to you? 10:53 <@Dagmar> lol 10:54 < RangerZ> 'local' as MY apartment 10:54 <@Dagmar> He was apparently one of the "trapped" people 10:54 < Ignotus-sdf> have they found the landlord yet? 10:54 < RangerZ> I slept through it breaking, etc 10:54 < Ignotus-sdf> :D 10:54 < RangerZ> yeah its a property group 10:55 < RangerZ> they got us hotels for the weekend, etc 10:55 < RangerZ> I somehow don't think they'll have it fixed by monday 10:56 <@Dagmar> Nah they'll get a couple of guys in there with some rope and ductape and it'll be fine 10:56 < RangerZ> so I packed my "I can fit a dead body in here, not-cut-up" suitcase with cloths, etc 10:56 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe JBWeld 10:56 < RangerZ> ohh no... 10:56 < RangerZ> there is NO floor now 10:56 < RangerZ> at ALL 10:56 <@Dagmar> A few gallons of that and they could mold new stairs 10:56 < RangerZ> the ENTIRE 1st floor's concrete floor fell out 10:56 < Ignotus-sdf> like we said in the Army, "if you can't duck it..." 10:56 <@Dagmar> How thick was the concrete box? 10:56 < RangerZ> 1/4" 10:56 < RangerZ> LOL... j/k 10:57 < RangerZ> I dunno 10:57 < RangerZ> maybe 5"~6" or so from the pics I saw 10:57 < RangerZ> was hard to tell 10:57 <@Dagmar> Okay so that's slightly less than terrifying 10:57 <@Dagmar> HOpefully what's under teh building isn't like that 10:57 < RangerZ> yeah.... 10:58 < RangerZ> especially considering new renters are paying ~50% above what I pay 10:58 < RangerZ> b/c I got in when rent was cheap, and they had ~1/2 vacancies 10:58 < RangerZ> so I don't want to move 10:59 < RangerZ> and I can't afford to 10:59 <@Dagmar> Well, not when it'll take a crane to get your stuff into a truck 10:59 < RangerZ> Apparently Vandy has rules that you can't get raises except once every 20 years 10:59 <@Dagmar> Only ten more years to go then 10:59 < RangerZ> hehe 10:59 <@Dagmar> I may be getting ready to replace a PHP dev 11:00 <@Dagmar> ...which is really fucking sad 11:00 < RangerZ> with a box of tissues? 11:00 < RangerZ> a cactus? 11:00 < Ignotus-sdf> Vandy. not going to Vandy is how I got stuck in the Army. That was MY dumbass move. 11:00 < RangerZ> you know... something useful in an office 11:00 <@Dagmar> Well, with a me 11:00 < RangerZ> ouch 11:00 < RangerZ> why? ontop of your current job 11:01 <@Dagmar> Yeah I despise PHP, but I can fumble along with it, and apparently the only way to get a significant raise at Vanderbilt is to leave and come back 11:01 <@Dagmar> Also the dev in question is a complete tool 11:01 < RangerZ> ...ok.... 11:01 <@Dagmar> They're the ones who managed to build wkhtmltopdf using the mingw cross-compiler 11:02 <@Dagmar> ...because it's the binary that will build when dependencies are missing. 11:02 < Ignotus-sdf> sounds legit to me. Here it's the opposite (in this company). you leave, you start back at the bottom. 11:02 <@Dagmar> ...if you completely refused to read the instructions 11:02 <@Dagmar> Technically i'm on a final notice right now for inconsequential tardies 11:02 <@Dagmar> I could not care less. 11:04 < RangerZ> they need to double your pay, and make you emperor king of *nix 11:04 < RangerZ> and just be done with it 11:04 <@Dagmar> The HR person who sits in the office at our front entrance is who I'm guessing has been watching 11:04 <@Dagmar> This is such a dick move I feel the need to screw with her 11:04 <@Dagmar> I'm going to start coming in through the back entrance 11:04 < RangerZ> I'd start coming in over and over 11:05 < RangerZ> just walk through the building 11:05 <@Dagmar> ...because the _reason_ I got the last three was apparently because she can't read a clock 11:05 <@Dagmar> Oh yes 11:05 < Ignotus-sdf> heh. 11:05 <@Dagmar> I'm going to come in, login to my workstation, then go back out the back way, take a whiz, and then come back in the front 11:06 < RangerZ> I'd really screw with her, and change clothing 11:06 < RangerZ> make it a benny hill skit 11:06 <@Dagmar> No, I'm going to let them get to the "I hate to have these kinds of meetings" point, and then I'm going to make some people feel bad 11:06 < RangerZ> though... that might be an offense worth being written up for "making a fellow employ mentally unstable" 11:07 <@Dagmar> ...because nitpicking over 2-3 minutes when someone's on salary is utter and complete bullshit 11:07 <@Dagmar> Seriously, when I am "late" it's like 3-5 minutes, tops 11:07 <@Dagmar> ...and this is the company that is the sole reason I have so much trouble sleeping. 11:07 < Ignotus-sdf> yup. how are you with webhosting? 11:07 < RangerZ> then you just need to have a new work cell phone google voice number, that TURNS OFF and ON when you are on shift/call 11:08 < Ignotus-sdf> There is a company called Peak Hosting that hires folks from here... they are 100% telecommute. 11:08 <@Dagmar> I'm actually apparently fine with webhosting 11:08 < RangerZ> Ignotus-sdf: I actually have a friend who has worked for tons of hosting companies up in OH, and needs a job 11:09 <@Dagmar> I actually got fussed at the other day for telling customers how to fix their problems instead of just letting them continue to put in silly tickets 11:09 <@Dickie> ruining metrics 11:10 <@Dagmar> Well, the argument is that it's not an efficient use of my time 11:10 <@Dagmar> I don't think they fully grasp that I'm coming out ahead on time because I can figure this shit out faster than I can close three tickets 11:10 < Ignotus-sdf> yeah. I'm with Peer 1, and thankfully the stupidity hasn't locked in yet. 11:11 < RangerZ> how do you like selling furniture? 11:11 < RangerZ> oh wait... 11:11 < RangerZ> hehe 11:11 <@Dagmar> Like, how long did it take me to install and test this binary? 15-20 minutes. 11:11 < Ignotus-sdf> :D we actually get calls for them. I argued with a woman for 20 minutes my first week thinking she was trying to get into our MIA datacenter. 11:12 <@Dagmar> That would include the email I sent to the dev's manager explaining how to make it work so she would have some ammunition against his claim that it was such an intractable problem 11:12 < Ignotus-sdf> She just wanted to return a chair. 11:12 <@Dagmar> They were trying to argue that it has to be installed into /usr/bin to work 11:12 <@Dagmar> That's right on the border of "too stupid for me to respond"-land. 11:12 < RangerZ> but the "linux for dummies" book said so 11:13 < RangerZ> geeze.... 11:15 < Ignotus-sdf> If you know someone, pass it along. The link was right. 11:17 < RangerZ> well, time to get out of here, so later 11:17 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:19 < Ignotus-sdf> I meant to ask, how did the project from yesterday end up, Dagmar? 11:20 <@Dagmar> The mounting brackets look like shit but the speakers are fine 11:20 <@Dagmar> For whatever reason on the brackets the paint decided not to bond with anything else, including the primer 11:21 < Ignotus-sdf> cool on the speakers. are the brackets aluminum? 11:21 <@Dagmar> I'm about to take a shower and go pull farings off the bike and remount the speakers 11:21 <@Dagmar> No the brackets are steel 11:21 <@Dagmar> The primar actually stuck fine 11:21 < Ignotus-sdf> ah. okay. 11:21 <@Dagmar> THat's what's baffling about it 11:22 <@Dagmar> Like, I primed them, waited a full day, washed 'em, gave em a couple hours to dry completely, sprayed one side, waited two hours, flipped them over, spraed the other side, waited a full day 11:23 <@Dagmar> Sprayed the enamel the next day, waited three hours, flipped them over, sprayed the other side, waited a few hours... 11:23 <@Dagmar> ...and enough enamel fumes or whatever got under them to make them stick to the paper slightly and when I pulled them up half the damn paint came off 11:23 <@Dagmar> Like, WTF 11:24 <@Dagmar> So having a can of grey plastidip around, I said screw it, I'll plastidip that side and wrapped everything but that one surface in blue painting tape, sprayed plastidip and then started peeling the masking tape back off... and it took off and/or unseated a lot of the enamel 11:25 <@Dagmar> CLEARLY next time I need to spray each coat before the previous one is completely cured 11:25 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't have had this problem if I'd bought cheaper paint, I think 11:26 < Ignotus-sdf> yeah, I actually went and googled on it. that seems to be what will work. 11:30 <@Dagmar> I used decent paint this time. That seriously may have been the problem 11:30 <@evilpig> lol http://www.thefrumps.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013-04-18-Man-Advice.jpg 11:30 <@Dagmar> Previously I've just used really cheap paint, and counted on the enamel overcoat protecting it 11:32 < Ignotus-sdf> lol 11:34 <@Dagmar> the saving grace of working with plastidip is that you dont' have to sand it to get it back off if something goes wrong 11:35 <@Dagmar> You just scratch at the edge and then peel it off 11:35 <@Dagmar> A bit of sanding or steel wool later and you can repaint 11:38 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 11:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 11:40 < Ignotus-sdf> certainly easier to recover from, then. 11:56 <@Dagmar> Heh you also get an appreciation of how *tough* the stuff is when multiple coats have been added 12:37 < Ignotus-sdf> been looking at stuff like the piratebox and dead drops. it would be cool, although I don't know how useful, to share files/chat on the fly between two meetings occurring at the same time in different places. 12:38 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 12:38 < Ignotus-sdf> I think I would mod the piratebox a bit, though. to do what I have in my head, you'd need dynDNS or something to connect the disparate systems on the fly like that. 12:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 12:39 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39 < Ignotus-sdf> Saw it on DIY Tryin' and said, "Hey, I could do something with that pretty cheap!" 12:40 < Ignotus-sdf> For that matter, you could install it in the glove compartment of a scooter, too. a mobile private net. 14:20 <@oddball> https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10382177_10154374944800193_4936012456771071744_n.png 14:22 < Ignotus-sdf> lol. that'll leave a mark. 14:55 < aestetix_> hey 14:55 < aestetix_> http://x.hope.net/grid.html 14:55 <@GateKeeper> Title: [HOPE X] Schedule (at x.hope.net) 14:55 < aestetix_> is that readable enough? 15:05 <@brimstone> having the whole schedule on one page is nice 15:05 <@brimstone> http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/ was a really nice interface aestetix_ 15:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: OpenStack Summit May 2014 Atlanta: Schedule (at openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org) 15:05 <@brimstone> you could flag talks, extract a ics feed, etc 15:06 <@brimstone> huh, apparently only $99 15:08 < aestetix_> hmm ok 15:08 < aestetix_> brimstone: how can I make an ics feed 15:09 <@brimstone> first, one must climb the highest mountain and read about the ics format 15:09 < aestetix_> haha 15:09 <@brimstone> it's actually a pretty simple format, all plaintext etc 15:10 < aestetix_> cool 15:24 < Ignotus-sdf> we looked at going to OpenStack. Don't remember why it fell through. That is a nice interface, though. 15:29 < Ignotus-sdf> hey brimstone... are you the one updating 404? And is the next meeting still Aug 1st? 15:32 <@brimstone> Ignotus-sdf: i guess, and yes, next 2600 meeting is probably going to be August since i'll be out of town the next 2 fridays as well 15:33 < Ignotus-sdf> k. We are out in Gwinnett and considered a 770 branch, but I also have some folks I might be able to get interested that are in fact closer to Midtown. 15:34 < Ignotus-sdf> We'll be there in Aug, though. What area of the food court? 15:34 < Ignotus-sdf> (once we find it) 15:34 <@brimstone> last month, we met near the outside doors 15:35 <@brimstone> the wifi was only meh, so we might move closer in next time 15:35 < Ignotus-sdf> ok. man. the last time I was at a meeting there was no wifi. I think I just dated myself. 15:35 <@brimstone> heh, that's cool 15:36 < Ignotus-sdf> I hope to bring a Piratebox example. 15:36 <@brimstone> that'd be neat 15:36 <@brimstone> i wonder if mine still boots 15:36 <@brimstone> i could dig it out and have it working by then i think 15:37 <@brimstone> good motivation 15:37 <@brimstone> Ignotus-sdf: you might be also interested in the dc404 meeting that meetings the 3rd saturday of the month at Manny's 15:37 < Ignotus-sdf> cool. We were tossing the idea that if things could get resurrected, then they could be linked during the meeting. It would be en masse from 2 locations. 15:38 < Ignotus-sdf> what time? I work Saturdays until about 5 15:38 <@brimstone> 2pm till 5pm 15:38 <@brimstone> :/ 15:38 <@brimstone> i have some wr703Ns that mesh, we could build upon that if you'd like 15:39 < Ignotus-sdf> okay. and I might be able to justify that meeting. I have a decent boss on saturdays. 15:42 < Ignotus-sdf> not too far from me. I'm in the Centennial Tower. 16:59 < aestetix_> huh 16:59 < aestetix_> I just got an email with this subject 16:59 < aestetix_> "Your top stories about Federal Taxes (US), Pornography, and Electronic Music" 16:59 < aestetix_> the porn and electronic music I can see being grouped together 17:00 < aestetix_> but wtf? 17:21 -!- Ignotus-sdf [42df3890@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.223.56.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:49 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: Kein Kybernetikverkehr] 20:38 <@NotLarry> So, has everyone seen 2001: A Space Odyssey? I took a wav of Hal singing daisy as Dave shuts him down and put it as an alert for failed mainframe connections. Then I turned it down to where you could barely hear it. 20:38 <@NotLarry> I came in for my shift at noon and they were furious with me. 20:41 <@Dagmar> It's a shame 20:44 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 20:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 20:59 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 21:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 21:04 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:15 <@Shadow404> Daisy Daisy, give me your answer true, I'm half crazy over the love of you. It wont be a stylish union, I can afford a carriage, but you'll look sweet, upon the seat of a bicycle built for two 22:15 <@Shadow404> NotLarry: you know why they chose that daisy song for hal's shutdown? 22:15 -!- SuMo_D [~sumo_d@108-193-45-205.lightspeed.gnvlsc.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 22:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SuMo_D] by ChanServ 22:16 <@Shadow404> In 1961 an IBM 704 became the first computer to sing, in a demonstration of Bell Labs' newly invented speech synthesis . and the song was "Daisy Bell". 22:20 <@Shadow404> it was also referenced on Futurama a couple of times 22:37 < aestetix_> And in 2001 a space odyssey 22:37 < aestetix_> oh heh 22:37 < aestetix_> just scrolled up 22:38 < aestetix_> Yeah I think 2001 might be one of my favorite scifi movies ever 23:48 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sun Jul 06 00:00:43 2014