--- Log opened Wed Jun 25 00:00:33 2014 00:51 < RangerZ> klixa: the japanese interest in incest is 'interesting' ...disturbing too... 00:51 < aestetix> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/06/2014-pioneer-award-nominations-are-now-open 00:51 < RangerZ> I say Arron 00:51 < RangerZ> aaron* 00:52 < aestetix> Aaron Swartz? 00:52 < RangerZ> yeah 00:52 < RangerZ> ohh nvm 00:52 < RangerZ> read that wrong 00:52 < aestetix> He won one last year :) 00:52 < aestetix> so he's not eligible 00:52 <@klixa> what do you find more disturbing? having sex with your brother/sister but never having met them before til that moment. OR having sex with a step-sibling that you grew up with? 00:52 < RangerZ> thought he was a nominee this year 00:52 < RangerZ> klixa: neither, but I have no siblings 00:53 < aestetix> I don't have any sisters 00:53 < RangerZ> and he's already slept with his brothers 00:53 < aestetix> Therefore sex with a sibling is incredibly disgusting to me 00:53 < aestetix> lol 00:53 < RangerZ> beat ya to it 00:53 < RangerZ> lol 00:54 < RangerZ> klixa: probably brother/sister 00:54 <@klixa> i think the step sibling thing is more disturbing...cause they are "culturally" or whatever your sibling 00:54 < RangerZ> b/c I don't see a problem 'in general' with step-siblings (non-blood related) 00:54 <@klixa> the other person is a stranger you share dna with 00:54 < RangerZ> see, I keep the DNA as the more important aspect 00:55 <@klixa> i had a brother and sister i never met until i was 16, and only met once 00:55 < aestetix> klixa: did you proceed to have sex with them? 00:55 <@klixa> no 00:56 <@klixa> my brother was cute tho... and i am not even cable of thinking that about the brothers i grew up with...tho the idea of sex with any of them is repulsive 00:58 < aestetix> what if they weren't your brothers 00:58 < aestetix> woudl you have sex with them? 00:58 <@klixa> teh 3 i grew up with, i cant even think that way about...its just not possible to imagine any such thing at all 01:00 <@klixa> the other one, i might have...i woudlnt now because i dont do casual stuff anymore...but at the time i was 16 and had 13 beers and was in germany and he and i were alone together...if he had not been my brother, who knows 01:00 <@klixa> this is gonna end up being the 2600 stats page quote, ii just know it :/ 01:01 < RangerZ> nah 01:01 < RangerZ> we try to pretend we aren't as messed up as we are 01:01 < RangerZ> ;) 01:01 <@klixa> this is prolly one of the topics i should lie about, lol 01:02 < aestetix> haha 01:02 < aestetix> you don't do casual stuff? 01:02 < aestetix> you go straight for the gold? 01:03 < RangerZ> she goes straight to the wallet now 01:03 <@Corydon76-home> Straight for the jugular 01:03 <@klixa> aestetix: one night... i was drunk and bored...and just went up to some random dude and asked if he wanted to have sex...of course he said yes... this is an example of what i was like when i was youmger 01:03 <@klixa> i dont do that kinda thing anymore 01:04 < aestetix> did you do that a lot? 01:04 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: I used to do that, too, except that they mostly said no. 01:04 <@klixa> aestetix: that particular thing just once 01:04 < aestetix> Have many guys asked *you* for sex like that? 01:05 * aestetix has been directly asked by a random girl for sex exactly ones. 01:05 < aestetix> once* 01:05 <@klixa> and...? what did you say 01:05 < aestetix> well given that I had a gf... 01:05 <@Corydon76-home> I haven't kept count of the number of times guys have asked me for sex 01:05 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: have you said no to any of them? 01:06 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, I have 01:06 < aestetix> klixa: but that normally doesn't happen to guys 01:06 < aestetix> Unless RangerZ maybe you'd had that happen? 01:06 < RangerZ> he said no to you several dozen times the one night alone when you came into here drunk aestetix 01:06 <@Corydon76-home> Public sex is a no-no. 01:06 <@klixa> aestetix: i know...which is why i did it... i knew id not be bored, and that id skock/make happy a andom dude 01:06 <@klixa> random* 01:07 < aestetix> why is it that guys often ask girls randomly for sex 01:07 < aestetix> but the opposite never happens 01:07 * aestetix would have gotten so much more sex.... 01:07 <@Corydon76-home> Clearly it did happen, because klixa did it 01:07 <@klixa> i havent been asked for sex randomly except once...and it wasnt in a nice way...and i ended up getting punched in the face for saying no 01:07 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: how many times have you been propositioned by guys? 01:07 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: several times. 01:08 <@Corydon76-home> How many times have you said yes? 01:08 < aestetix> Again, I don't do public sex. 01:08 < aestetix> Er, same as you* 01:08 < aestetix> It happened a lot in San Francisco during Folsom, etc 01:09 < aestetix> That was when I'd walk into a house party and see 8 guys on a bed fucking 01:09 <@klixa> id have to leave that kinda party 01:09 < aestetix> I did have one guy ask me if he could make out with me at a rave once 01:09 < aestetix> I turned him down 01:09 <@Corydon76-home> See, when you say it, it sounds all raunchy and unromantic 01:09 <@klixa> 8 guys fucking on a bed is never romantic 01:10 <@klixa> aestetix: are you bi? 01:10 < aestetix> klixa: I'm complicated :) 01:10 <@klixa> aestetix: have you been with men? 01:10 <@Corydon76-home> He's buy-sexual. Buy him something, and he'll get sexual. 01:10 <@klixa> i ahve been with women but i am not bi 01:10 <@klixa> i was just curios 01:10 <@klixa> im not attracted to them tho..women are too squishy feeling 01:10 <@klixa> even super skinny ones 01:11 <@klixa> they dont feel like men 01:11 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: some guys are squishy, too 01:11 < aestetix> I guess so, if you count a group sex thing where men are present 01:11 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: its not the same tho...at least no squishy man i have touched 01:11 <@klixa> aestetix: well, being present means nothing...it only matters if you directly interacted with the males 01:12 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: have you ever had another man's penis in your hand, mouth, or anus? 01:12 <@klixa> or against your penis 01:12 * aestetix thinks 01:12 < aestetix> Not really. 01:12 <@klixa> not really 01:12 <@Corydon76-home> I don't count against a penis, because that's incidental to DP 01:12 * aestetix is not attracted to penises 01:13 <@klixa> dp? 01:13 <@Corydon76-home> double penetration 01:13 <@klixa> oh 01:13 <@klixa> well accidental doesnt count 01:13 <@klixa> i meant on purpose 01:13 <@Corydon76-home> two dicks in the same hole 01:13 < aestetix> I've never done DP 01:13 < aestetix> I almost have several times 01:13 <@klixa> wait..i thought double penatration meant one on each end 01:13 <@klixa> hmmm 01:13 < aestetix> uh 01:13 < aestetix> yeah 01:13 <@Corydon76-home> No, that's a spit roast 01:13 < aestetix> I thought it meant in each hole 01:13 < aestetix> like one in the front, one in the back 01:13 <@Corydon76-home> No, that's a sandwich 01:14 <@klixa> lets google this 01:14 <@klixa> cause thats what i thought too aestetix 01:14 < aestetix> wow now I'm really glad I haven't done DP 01:14 <@Corydon76-home> I've known some guys who've done DP 01:14 < aestetix> I was in a room once with a guy and a girl who was really hot 01:14 < aestetix> He kept saying DP 01:15 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: have you done DP? 01:15 <@Corydon76-home> Requires some flexibility and long dicks 01:15 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: it means different hings for heteros 01:15 <@klixa> "Three partners lie or stand in parallel, with one between the other two. Sometimes called a sandwich. This term may specifically refer to the double penetration of a woman, with one penis in her anus, and the other in her vagina or of a male, with two penises in his anus." 01:15 <@klixa> tho i thought it was one in her mouth and one in vagina..so i still didnt know 01:15 <@klixa> aka spitroasting 01:16 < aestetix> RangerZ: have you done DP? 01:18 <@klixa> RangerZ hasnt even done SP 01:19 < aestetix> what is SP 01:19 <@klixa> single penetration 01:19 < aestetix> oh 01:20 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: how old is the oldest guy you've fucked? 01:21 <@Corydon76-home> Given that I've aged during my time of being sexually active, I think your question is better phrased as what was the greatest difference in age. Don't you agree? 01:21 < aestetix> Sure. 01:22 <@Corydon76-home> 23 years age difference, if the guy told the truth about his age 01:22 < aestetix> How old were you? 01:22 <@Corydon76-home> 21 01:27 <@klixa> my biggest age difference was with some 91 rock DJ 01:27 <@klixa> i was 14 he was 30 01:29 <@Corydon76-home> Shit, that's jailbait region 01:30 <@Corydon76-home> 18 is the youngest I'll go since I was 19. 01:30 <@klixa> i lied about my age 01:30 <@klixa> i said i was 17 01:30 <@Corydon76-home> 17 and 30 is still jailbait 01:30 <@klixa> i had a thing for older guys 01:30 <@klixa> now...i like younger ones 01:30 <@Corydon76-home> Same here 01:31 <@Corydon76-home> My ex was 11 years older than me. My current is 8 years younger. 01:32 <@klixa> the guy im with is 11 years older than me 01:32 <@klixa> but...im looking for a younger male mistress :| 01:33 <@Corydon76-home> I'd like to find an 18yo boy who enjoys bottoming so much that he'll ask both of us to fuck him on a regular basis 01:34 <@klixa> id like to find someone who is not schizophrenic and will be affectionate 01:34 <@Corydon76-home> And on special occasions will get us to DP his ass 01:37 <@Corydon76-home> All of the guys I know like that unfortunately live several hours away 01:39 <@klixa> its weird that men and women are with one another 01:39 <@klixa> men like to fuck soooo much...and so many different people 01:39 * aestetix sighs 01:39 <@klixa> or maybe its just some men 01:39 < aestetix> I need to stop getting into twitter arguments 01:41 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: the stuff you talk about wanting is similar to what my bf wants... but we broke up because of it and now theres a lot of bad memories, etc... and i want to leave permemently because of wha he wnats to do 01:43 <@klixa> though i was cheated on...and left alone for 2 weeks wiht a 5 month old baby while he was with 3 girls...so maybe not quite the same situation.... 01:43 <@klixa> 5 week old baby* 01:47 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: It's mostly just a fantasy on my part. The likelihood that we will find a guy that is to both of our liking is remote. 01:48 <@klixa> Corydon76-home: i think thats how it is for him too, but when i had a baby...it put him in a "zomg you only live once and when youre dead your dead...so im gonna go for it" mondset 01:49 <@klixa> hes nearly 50...so...hes at a different stage of life than i am... 01:49 <@Corydon76-home> klixa: it's more important that I find something that works within the relationship than to consider doing anything outside of it 01:50 <@klixa> thats how i am 01:51 <@Corydon76-home> Anyway, bed time for me 01:52 < RangerZ> aestetix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z2hVFZBz-M story that just screams your name 01:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Man Rescued From Giant Vagina In Germany - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 01:53 < aestetix> uh oh 01:56 -!- shapr [~shapr@84.200.228.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:58 -!- Guest59313 [~shapr@84.200.228.78] has joined #se2600 02:04 < aestetix> and my cat is puking on the floor 02:08 <@Bahhumbug> Probably from reading this conversation. 02:08 <@Bahhumbug> Can't really say I blame your cat. 02:12 < RangerZ> "You attempted to reach download.oracle.com, but instead you actually reached a server identifying itself asa248.e.akamai.net. This may be caused by a misconfiguration on the server or by something more serious. An attacker on your network could be trying to get you to visit a fake (and potentially harmful) version ofdownload.oracle.com." 02:14 <@Dagmar> Jesus christ 02:14 <@Dagmar> Some malware is trying to get you to install Oracle! 02:14 -!- klixa is now known as klixa-gone 02:14 < RangerZ> could be worse 02:15 < RangerZ> could be visual studio 02:15 -!- klixa-gone [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 02:16 <@Dagmar> Thankfully Microsoft has their own ASN so that's easy to firewall out 02:16 <@Dagmar> Fuck. 02:16 <@Dagmar> I got a new keychain today, with an LED in it 02:16 <@Dagmar> LED appears ba 02:16 <@Dagmar> d 02:16 < RangerZ> ouch 02:16 < RangerZ> that sucks 02:16 <@Dagmar> Oh wait 02:16 <@Dagmar> lemme find my old one 02:17 < RangerZ> does it have a pull out tab for the battery? 02:18 <@Dagmar> Well damn. I've no idea where that one is but I just found another broken/worn LED keychain that has a 5mm LED in it 02:18 <@Dagmar> Dude this thing is *so* not spec 02:19 <@Dagmar> It's just a pair of CR1616 (3v!) batteries stuck in between the leads 02:19 <@Dagmar> No limiting resistor or nothing 02:21 < RangerZ> nice 02:22 <@Dagmar> Well, not so nice 02:22 <@Dagmar> The short lead on that one is WAY 02:22 <@Dagmar> short 02:22 < RangerZ> yeah... 02:22 <@Dagmar> Howevere... 02:23 <@Dagmar> I just walked into my front room and said "Dagmar, you're a giant fucking nerd. You *have* some T1-3/4 fucking LEDs around here. LOOK." 02:23 <@Dagmar> Lo and behold... arduino kit 02:23 <@Dagmar> I have a _whole bag_ of the motherfuckers 02:24 < RangerZ> hehe, yeah.... you accululate those 02:24 < RangerZ> i still want that moto x back with the arduino built into it 02:24 < RangerZ> lol 02:25 <@Dagmar> If I knew where my old salvage box was I might have some that qualify as "antique" LEDs 02:26 < RangerZ> just because you were the 8th person to ever buy a LED... doesn't mean anything 02:26 < RangerZ> heh 02:28 <@Dagmar> So like later... when you're bleeding out from the throwing knife in your eye socket, think back and remember how much fun it was to make that joke. 02:36 < RangerZ> First production 1968 02:36 < RangerZ> wow... earlier than I thought ;) 02:36 < RangerZ> lol 02:37 <@Dagmar> Fixed. 02:38 <@Dagmar> It's a diffuse white instead of clear, but I think I'll just order a UV one from SparkFun just so I can have a blacklight keychain 02:40 <@Dagmar> Also, I scared the fuck out of someone on the way home 02:40 <@Dagmar> Deliberately this time. Heh 02:41 <@Dagmar> I was riding around Ingressing on the bike from like 9:30pm onward... Halfway through I turn on the stereo (even though I haven't installed the new choke to kill off the stator noise yet) 02:41 <@Dagmar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAteM8znAa8 comes on the stereo while I'm at a light 02:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: my life with the Thrill Kill Kult - Shock Point of 6 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 02:42 <@Dagmar> The light isn't going to change for me and I know it, but I figure whatever... Either I'll just drive through it in a minute or someone in a car will come up and trigger it 02:42 <@Dagmar> Someone does come up. 02:42 <@Dagmar> I look over. See judgmental looking old fool. 02:42 <@Dagmar> ON THEIR MOTHERFUCKING PHONE 02:43 <@Dagmar> He gives me a nasty look. 02:43 <@Dagmar> It's right at about 2:50 in the song now... the chorus. 02:44 <@Dagmar> I have just cranked up the stereo to full, and join in with the chorus at 3:30. 02:44 <@Dagmar> Flipped up my visor and start screaming "AAY-MEN! AAY-MEN!" 02:44 <@Dagmar> Dude runs the light 02:44 <@Dagmar> lol 02:45 <@Dagmar> I have to put that choke in tomorrow to kill the stator noise 02:45 <@Dagmar> The fucking thing sounds like a sport bike 02:45 <@Dagmar> If the amp is on with no music going, it whines 02:46 <@Dagmar> EEEeeeeeeeee--eeeeEEEEEEeeee... 02:46 <@Dagmar> It will be interesting to see what Heather has to say for her friend 02:47 <@Dagmar> There was a girl at goth night who apperently used to hang out at Dragon Park and the Underground 02:47 <@Dagmar> APparently Heather brought her over to my place one night (long ago) to do LSd 02:47 <@Dagmar> I have no memory of this, but whaever. 02:47 <@Dagmar> I vaguely remember the chick. She's dressed up and smoking hot 02:48 <@Dagmar> She was also apparently in an advanced state of rabies 02:48 <@Dagmar> She was just _vicious_ nasty to several of us, apparently because we weren't hitting on her 02:48 <@Dagmar> 'cuz we're not the type of guys who go to bars to fawn over chicks 02:49 <@Dagmar> We were _trying_ to have a conversation with her, but she was already pissed about something it seemed. 02:49 <@Dagmar> When she left, one of the dudes said it for us all... 02:49 <@Dagmar> "THAT is why I do not pick up women in bars." 02:49 <@Dagmar> lol 02:49 <@Dagmar> I'd have done her until she couldn't remember her own name... until she started talking. 02:50 <@Dagmar> _Filled_ with hate for everyone and everything. 02:50 <@Dagmar> Gawd 02:50 <@Dagmar> If I wind up dating her, feel free to kick me 02:51 <@Dagmar> I know we're close to the same age, so I was interested 02:51 <@Dagmar> ...but we were discussing some hacking stuff and apparently she's one of those who gets very defensive about the fact that they make art things with hot glue 03:01 < aestetix> her = anarchival? 03:02 <@Dagmar> Actually no 03:02 <@Dagmar> This chick was wound a *lot* tighter 03:03 <@Dagmar> Like, there was this sort of mook-ish (nebbish-like) goth guy sitting next to her on the same bench and she jumped his ass because he was slouching. 03:03 <@Dagmar> This was our first warning sign 03:03 <@Dagmar> I thought dude was her boyfriend and just unbelievably henpecked 03:04 <@Dagmar> Afterwards, he said he was ecstatic that she was _not_ his girlfriend. heheh 03:04 <@Dagmar> We all had a bonding moment about how much of a raging thunderbitch she was 03:05 <@Dagmar> She was _furious_ thet she was all dolled up and us guys didn't react to it. hehe 03:05 <@Dagmar> The note I sent to Heather on FB was "So... how long has C**** had rabies?" 03:09 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: here are some NSFW penis photos for you: http://imgur.com/a/wvA4d 03:10 <@Dagmar> I suppose it's just her luck she ran into a bunch of good looking guys who aren't scheming douchebags. 03:10 <@Dagmar> If she hadn't acted like a rabid hatebeast, I'd have tried to get her number eventually 03:11 < aestetix> god that is a lot of dick 03:11 <@NotLarry> I think her number was aparent, and I would wager those three sixes are on tatooed on her body somewhere... 03:11 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: Could be 03:12 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: I've never seen a girl get *that* angry about failing at getting picked up before 03:12 <@Dagmar> If she hadn't been so quick to give up and go crazy, she'd have gotten some 03:12 <@Dagmar> Apparently she weighs about 85lbs and is in whip-like shape 03:13 <@Dagmar> I'd take that as a challenge most days 03:13 <@Dagmar> I know *things* to do with a girl like that 03:14 <@Dagmar> Such a shame, really 03:14 <@Dagmar> He dress definitely got my attention 03:14 <@Dagmar> Low-cut, shoulderless... black as midnight and skimpy 03:15 <@Dagmar> DESPITE me being a nice guy the first thing that went through my head was "I want to eat her" 03:16 <@Dagmar> ...and apparently we have distant history or something, so it was practically a slow-pitch 03:17 <@Dagmar> I was itching for an excuse to say "Let me show you what I learned in college" 03:18 <@Dagmar> ...and then her head started spinning around. 03:18 <@Dagmar> I gotta wonder tho'... 03:19 <@Dagmar> Is the strength of my attraction for a girl _always_ directly in proportion to the level of batshit crazy they are? 03:19 <@Dagmar> Because if so, anarchival is a spook 03:20 <@Bahhumbug> She's a something. 03:20 <@Bahhumbug> But I believe it starts with c and ends in t 03:20 <@Dagmar> heh 03:21 <@Bahhumbug> This is quite cool: http://www.getscribblepen.com/ 03:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: A Color Picker Pen That Reproduces Any Color. (at www.getscribblepen.com) 03:22 <@Dagmar> MMm... 03:22 <@Dagmar> I have come to understand that a certain type of graphic artist might kill someone for being given one of those 03:22 <@Dagmar> Here is a thing which promises to produce every color imaginable 03:23 <@Dagmar> ...and if it does so _badly_... look out. 03:23 <@Bahhumbug> Heh 03:23 <@Dagmar> I imagine there are guys at Pantone with one on a desk so they can stand around and laugh at it 03:24 <@Bahhumbug> Probably. 03:24 <@Dagmar> "16 bit color sensor" <-- this does not inspire confidence. 03:26 <@Dagmar> I would like to know precisely how much _their_ ink costs 03:26 <@Dagmar> Judging by the size of the pen and using the way inkjet cartridges are sold, I'm thinking probably six, maybe seven thousand dollars per refill 03:31 < aestetix> http://www.mrmethane.com/live-fart-show/ 03:32 <@NotLarry> aestetix: there is something wrong with your internet... 03:33 <@Dagmar> Brace yourselves. 03:33 <@Dagmar> http://www.amazon.com/dp/0983965552/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_.GIQtb1KEM6BK 03:33 <@Dagmar> This is a think that exists. 03:33 <@Dagmar> s/think/thing/ 03:34 <@Dagmar> If you value your sanity, you will *not* read the reviews. 03:35 < aestetix> How does someone control their farts so well 03:36 <@Dagmar> Still safer than an aestetix link 03:41 <@Dagmar> Pixel Dungeon is like Nethack for cell phones 03:52 <@Dagmar> ...including regularly being murdered before you can get two pieces of armor. 04:19 < evilpig_> Dagmar: that mike rowe post was hilarious 04:35 <@Dagmar> "One does not simply leave Pixel Dungeon." 05:23 < evilpig_> heh 05:23 < evilpig_> well that wasn't too painful. managed to swap three 10g switches in production in less than an hour and a half with no disruption 05:25 < evilpig_> bwhahahaha http://penny-arcade.com/comic 05:25 <@GateKeeper> Title: Penny Arcade - Experiential (at penny-arcade.com) 05:38 -!- ShadowHntr [~alex@ec2-54-235-164-175.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #se2600 05:44 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:51 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 09:12 < _specialk_> orning! 09:27 -!- diz_ [~diz@c-76-22-170-8.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:35 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 10:21 <@Mirage> Today's xkcd is pretty good. 11:10 < evilpig_> I liked penny arcade more 11:11 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11 <@Dolemite> Yeah, definitely a virus 11:15 <@NotLarry> ok, I don't know which one of you is responsible but... 11:17 <@Dolemite> You got a new job? 11:21 <@NotLarry> I am in the same geographical location. 11:22 <@NotLarry> I don't have any fucking idea what my job might be. I am now a computer operations specialist. 11:34 < evilpig_> fuckin' NY office people having good lunch today. http://www.philssteaks.com/ 11:42 < evilpig_> this is a big bag of nope. http://geekologie.com/2014/06/count-me-in-series-of-giant-interconnect.php 11:42 <@GateKeeper> Title: Count Me In: Series Of Giant Interconnected Trampolines Suspended In Abandoned Mine | Geekologie (at geekologie.com) 11:54 < aestetix> http://www.2600.com/?q=content/source-interlink-closure-and-rebranding-puts-2600-limbo 12:00 -!- diz_ [~diz@c-76-22-170-8.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:16 <@sasquatc4> wow 12:16 <@sasquatc4> Ninety-four percent of professional workers put in 50 or more hours, and nearly half work 65 or above. 12:16 <@sasquatc4> really? 12:23 < firemouth> yes really 12:23 < firemouth> i know i'm up there :) 12:30 < aestetix> http://www.2600.com/?q=content/source-interlink-closure-and-rebranding-puts-2600-limbo 12:31 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 12:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:33 <@sasquatc4> uggh, definitely one reason i could never leave this job, i think the last time i did a 50hr week was like 4 years ago when they mandated it for a month to a get a product out 12:34 < aestetix> sasquatc4: that doesn't sound healthy 12:35 <@sasquatc4> yea, it didnt particularly work well either, which is why they never did it again 12:37 <@sasquatc4> but apparently 94% of workers are doing it by default now anyway, that just seemed incredibly high to me 12:40 < firemouth> well when you add up the time working remote as well as at your desk it can add up quick 12:40 < firemouth> i know in 2013 i put in well over 2600 hours 12:41 < aestetix> so if they are working 50 hours a week 12:41 < aestetix> when do they have time to do other things 12:41 < aestetix> like raise a family 12:41 < firemouth> i do it :) 12:42 < firemouth> i'm lookin for a new job though where i can work reomtely some time 12:42 < firemouth> or at least they consider that time you worked 12:42 < firemouth> here they count every hour you miss, but not a single extra one you put in 12:46 < firemouth> gah thats horrible 12:46 < firemouth> i'm so out of it that i got some hot water for tea... 12:46 < firemouth> 45 min ago 12:46 < firemouth> forgot to put my tea in to brew, let alone drink it 12:49 < firemouth> i wish i didnt have to work that many hours to get results though 12:49 < firemouth> for me the biggest problem is the "open floor plan" here is so distracting and interrupting 12:49 < firemouth> anyone thinks they can walk right up to you, that you'll drop anything you're doing and work on their problem 12:50 < firemouth> so i'll get more done in 2-4 hours after work than i do in 8 hours of being there 12:52 < aestetix> vagina 12:53 <@sasquatc4> ive heard that as well, my gf worked in a place with an open plan and said the same thing, so distracting and annoying 12:53 <@sasquatc4> and not just people interrupting but now your basically thrown into everyone elses conversation that happens around you, nothing is isolated 12:56 < aestetix> firemouth: open floor plans are a stupid concoction by bay area radicals who decided to throw out all structure 12:56 < aestetix> when it turns out some things are quite useful 12:57 < aestetix> maybe I like the CEO to have their own office so I don't have to listen to their negotiations while I troubleshoot system issues 13:01 < aestetix> I mean if you want to go all radical 13:01 < aestetix> maybe make bathrooms an open space too 13:01 < aestetix> so you can watch everyone on the toilet 13:52 < firemouth> lol no joke 13:52 < firemouth> it sucks 13:52 < firemouth> i get to hear everyones conversation 13:53 < firemouth> i dont want to hear anyone else, i want to focus on my job and get work done in 8 hours 14:11 <@Mirage> hehe..here's an automation term i hadn't seen before, but kind of like: "autodynamagically" 14:13 <@Dagmar> Open floor plans are shit for anything more than about four people 14:16 < firemouth> Dagmar: I think it's bad for more than one myself, lol 14:16 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:18 <@Mirage> 11:42 < firemouth> here they count every hour you miss, but not a single extra one you put in 14:18 < firemouth> yup 14:18 <@Mirage> firemouth: news flash...that pretty much everywhere 14:19 <@Mirage> er, that's 14:19 < firemouth> its one thing to not pay a salaried person, but its another to not even count it so you can see "hey this person worke their ass off this year" 14:19 < firemouth> when i say not pay, not pay for extra hours 14:19 < firemouth> i get that 14:20 < firemouth> i do know one place that "requires" extra hours to make your bonus 14:20 < firemouth> works out to like, $8 / hr 14:21 < firemouth> but thats better than "You had 20 sick hours last year, your bonus is getting cut. No i don't care that you put in 400 extra hours" 14:21 <@Mirage> All they have to do is make a company policy (like Vanderbilt) stating that there is no comp-time, then add on top of that idiotic rules requiring all salaried employees to work "regularly scheduled hours as well as any additional hours as required to fulfill jobs requirements." 14:25 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 14:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 14:25 <@Mirage> Had a manager for a short bit that played favorites between windows and linux teams, so if the windows guys had to work 14h over the weekend for an outage, they could "work from home" on Monday. If any of the linux guys showed up 10 minutes late on Monday morning, we got a verbal warning about tardiness and threatened with being written up. 14:26 <@Dagmar> $8/hour? 14:26 <@Dagmar> Dude that's not a salary position 14:26 <@Dagmar> That's just bullshit. 14:26 <@Mirage> Dagmar: did you ever work out how much you were getting paid /hr working at ITS? 14:26 <@Dagmar> If you're being paid fucking eight an hour on _salary_ terms and they're being sticklers about hours, you need to fucking _sue_ 14:27 <@Dagmar> Mirage: That depends on how you look at the "40 hour work week" 14:28 <@Dagmar> If one accounted for all those goddamn phone calls, particularly when I was the only person left, it ran down as low as $14/hour 14:28 <@Mirage> nm, i guess we were still making ~$12-16/hr even at 60+ hours 14:28 <@Dagmar> USuall;y it was closer to $22.50/hour 14:28 <@Dagmar> ...but "usually" never happened 14:30 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I stil haven't been able to figure out WTF Sean took a year to build out a replacement Satellite server. I just built two environments remotely, one lab, one prod. Lab is a single server. Prod is a Master, DB Server, and 8 proxies. 14:31 <@Dagmar> He had to figure out how to do it. 14:32 <@Mirage> not rocket science. 14:32 <@Mirage> I think the partner guys could have done just as well in less time. 14:32 <@Dagmar> Possibly 14:32 <@Dagmar> Either way, he's not my problem anymore 14:32 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:32 <@Dagmar> If he becomes my problem again, I'll quit. 14:33 <@Dagmar> Actually, I should amend that. Provided he's not a tool about it, if I have to deal with him again, ther'es only an 80% chance I'll quit 14:33 <@Mirage> VU will one day wake up and can Hogan...at which point Sean's days will be numbered. 14:33 <@Dagmar> Hogan, on the other hand, never again. 14:34 <@Dagmar> They've "solved" their DNS problem by essentially routing all the update work through Marlin and the other EAI guy 14:34 <@Mirage> That's scary 14:34 <@Dagmar> A bit, but they can definitely manage changing A records and so forth 14:35 <@Dagmar> What I find scary is that they got away with finagling things like that 14:35 <@Dagmar> Once DNS transfers fully to EAI's side, it's going to be hard to argue that email and sharepoint are "core infrastructure" 14:37 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: They can rename their group to "Support of Shitty Apps" 14:38 <@Mirage> They still the web env, don't they? 14:38 <@Mirage> er, they still have... 14:42 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 14:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 14:45 <@Dagmar> They do 14:45 <@Dagmar> Except now people have the option of hosting with EAI, *if* they can provide their own Apache admin 14:46 <@Dagmar> Cindy Franco now works with us. :) 15:04 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:31 <@Mirage> Dagmar: as a Microsft rep, or is she back at VU? 15:31 <@Mirage> Oj, wait..I was thinking Cindy Frank. 15:31 <@Mirage> Franco..that's funny. Wasn't she with DAR doing web stuff? 15:35 <@Dagmar> Well, I don't know what group she was with, but she's a manager for School of Medicine now 15:36 <@Mirage> heh..she always seemed a little too ditsy for management. 15:37 <@Mirage> Cross her and she has no problems going from 0-bitch in an instant, though. 15:52 <@Dagmar> I get along with her fine 15:53 <@Dagmar> Could be because I spent zero seconds each year doing bullshit 15:55 <@Dagmar> Wow http://sploid.gizmodo.com/short-film-shows-why-a-world-without-secrets-would-end-1595196915 16:09 < aestetix> So uh 16:09 < aestetix> Is Vanderbilt broke or something? 16:10 < aestetix> Or... lemme guess 16:10 < aestetix> There are administrators making a ton of money and screwing over everyone else 16:19 <@Bahhumbug> Vandy? Broke? 16:19 <@Bahhumbug> Hahahahahaha 16:19 <@Mirage> We talking money or organization? 16:20 <@Mirage> They took a hit on funding last year, as an IT organization, there are quite a few areas that were broken quite badly.. 16:21 <@Bahhumbug> I assume (yeah, silly me) that he was talking "broke" in a financial sense. 17:00 -!- dasunt [~dasunt@unaffiliated/dasunt] has joined #se2600 17:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dasunt] by ChanServ 17:01 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 17:23 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:55 -!- firemouth [~firemouth@c-71-227-22-221.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:57 -!- firemouth [~firemouth@c-71-227-22-199.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:01 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01 -!- Bahhumbug [jrd@serentos/admin/jrd] has joined #se2600 18:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by ChanServ 18:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Bahhumbug] by GateKeeper 19:10 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-69-137-107-2.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:11 < RangerZ> so wtf... https://www.vanguardthegame.com/ Vanguard is still up... well until july 31st... lol 19:44 <@Dagmar> I guess people will have to find some other way to torture themselves. 19:52 <@Bahhumbug> Spend time with crazy bitch. 19:53 <@Bahhumbug> That's all the torture anyone needs. 20:15 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 20:35 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:16 < evilpig_> hrmmmm. contraband made it out of the dc it seems. http://marlene.tumblr.com/post/89861318873/shenanigans-at-tumblr-yesterday-im-very 21:16 < evilpig_> however, there is a rare look inside the computer room 21:18 <@Bahhumbug> Is that an Equinox facility? 21:19 <@Bahhumbug> Sigh... Equinix. 21:20 <@Bahhumbug> They have a facility in Newark, not sure where you're based at, however. 21:21 < evilpig_> no. delta fabros 21:22 < evilpig_> my bad DuPont Fabros 21:22 < evilpig_> http://dft.com/data-centers/location-information 21:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Location Information | DuPont Fabros Technology (at dft.com) 21:22 < evilpig_> we're delta. 21:28 * Bahhumbug nods 21:29 <@Bahhumbug> The light units look like something I've seen in the Chicago Equinix plant. 21:43 < RangerZ> evilpig_: you better be trying to hit on her... if she's not married 21:44 < evilpig_> she isn't and if I were in the NY office I would be for sure 21:44 < RangerZ> ahh 21:45 < evilpig_> at lunch they were talking about her dating situation and it sounded pretty fucked 21:45 < RangerZ> obviously 21:45 < RangerZ> otherwise she'd be married 21:46 < evilpig_> her parents didn't let her date until after she got out of college 21:46 < RangerZ> wow 21:46 < RangerZ> yeah... 21:46 < RangerZ> thats never good 21:46 < RangerZ> I'm actually trying to figure out a girl like that at school, she's never dated anyone 21:46 < evilpig_> nope. we had a chat about wow, comics, gaming, etc while they were on the tour though 21:47 < evilpig_> I still wear my blizzcon lanyard for my badge at the dc 21:48 < evilpig_> here's one of her other pictures from the tour that isn't public. https://31.media.tumblr.com/1e064a1a939ac190b300c15f50ca38ad/tumblr_n7qqceEqmq1qgav8po3_1280.jpg 21:49 < RangerZ> yeah... 21:49 < RangerZ> kinda upset I didn't get a call back from them to work there now 21:49 < RangerZ> lol 22:18 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 22:24 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:37 < evilpig_> porkins [~shitgobli@test.vampireposers.com] 22:43 <@Dagmar> evilpig_: She's _cute_ 22:43 < evilpig_> indeed 22:48 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@c-68-52-43-115.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 23:18 <@NotLarry> http://notlarry.tumblr.com/image/89912747988 23:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: : Photo (at notlarry.tumblr.com) 23:19 < evilpig_> those don't look like new running shears 23:20 <@NotLarry> Well, new for me:) 23:21 <@NotLarry> The trick is going to be to keep them clean 23:28 < evilpig_> Dagmar: were you watching wilfred? 23:49 <@Dagmar> No, I actually kind of found the show to be horrifying --- Log closed Thu Jun 26 00:00:34 2014