--- Log opened Tue Jun 17 00:00:27 2014
00:14 < aestetix> aaand a new contender for the stupidest company ever
00:14 < aestetix> https://www.myvessyl.com/
00:15 <@klixa> its a smart cup, i want one
00:16 <@Dagmar> What, precisely, did these people find problematic about just LOOKING into a cup or bottle?
00:16 < aestetix> Dagmar: it wasn't making them money
00:17 < aestetix> Somehow I think this product would be unwelcome at PhreakNIC
00:17 <@klixa> HOE DOES IT KNOW WHAT"S INSIDE IT!?!?!!?
00:17 <@Dagmar> lol they have a manual option
00:17 <@Dagmar> You can drink out of a PLAIN FUCKING GLASS and just tell the app you did it
00:17 < aestetix> Dagmar: but it's an app
00:18 <@klixa> you are missing the point... the point is to get this thing, and then get drunk or high then make strnage concoctions and try to stump it
00:18 <@Dagmar> It's a complete load of shit is what it is
00:18 <@Dagmar> klixa: You have to tell it what you put into it
00:18 < aestetix> The video is great
00:18 <@klixa> ? then why bother
00:18 <@klixa> they make it look like it just knows
00:18 <@Dagmar> You could very easily tell it you have a glass of urine, and it won't judge
00:18 < aestetix> There is a chick looking at a list of stuff she drank, and then smiling like her kid got straight As on a report card
00:19 <@klixa> yeah, she was scary
00:19 <@klixa> the red wine chick
00:19 <@Dagmar> Not even for $900 dollars would it be able to tell you what the fuck you put in it on it's own
00:19 <@klixa> thats why i asked how it knew...cause they are showing people pour stuff in and it lighting up saying whats in it
00:19 < aestetix> This actually makes webvan look like a viable business option.
00:19 <@Dagmar> Because they're too lazy to open the damn thing and look inside
00:20 < oddball> So... Naienko had the brilliant idea of the two of us playing Cards Against Humanity with her sister and father.
00:20 <@Dagmar> ...or you know, go back to pen-based computing and just write "beer" on the plastic cup
00:20 <@klixa> it says it "automatically knows" tho
00:21 <@klixa> "Vessyl is a smart cup that analyzes liquids to tell you what you're drinking"
00:21 <@Dagmar> It likely "automatically knows" you are drinking 'SODA'
00:21 < aestetix> For only $99
00:21 < aestetix> Because you can't look at the label on the thing you just poured into your fucking cup
00:22 <@klixa> irc, because you are too fucking lazy to interact with people irl :P
00:22 <@Wilpig> or... irc, because you moved far away from your friends but can still keep in touch
00:23 <@Dagmar> Their commercial makes it obvious the thing isn't as bright as they'd like you to believe
00:23 <@Dagmar> ...and I'll wager if we filled one with urine it would *not* say "urine"
00:23 <@Dagmar> It would probably say "PBR"
00:24 <@klixa> HA
00:24 <@klixa> Wilpig: awe :(
00:25 < aestetix> Can you share what you're drinking with your friends on facebook?
00:25 <@klixa> thats what i hate about all the moving/travelling i do... i dont have friends
00:25 <@klixa> near me, i mean
00:25 <@klixa> they are all far away
00:25 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I am so *very* certain their app lets you spam social media
00:25 <@klixa> aestetix: im sure you can
00:25 <@Dagmar> It's just a hunch
00:26 <@klixa> everything spams social networks now
00:26 <@Dagmar> Urinals don't.
00:26 <@Dagmar> Thank god.
00:26 < aestetix> So today's routine at a party is: I walk in, pick up a beer, crack it open, and have fun
00:26 <@klixa> you just dont have the app Dagmar they do, they totally do
00:26 <@Dagmar> Otherwise you *know* you'd be getting tweets about it every time aestetix takes a whiz
00:26 < aestetix> Tomorrow's routine: I walk in, pick up a beer, crack it open, pour it into my smart-cup, then sync it with my app, then share it on facebook
00:27 <@Dagmar> Actually, that might be a good idea for an app
00:27 <@Dagmar> It's got the ring of "next fad of stupid"
00:27 <@klixa> thats why aestetix randomly says penis; thats his app telling us hes peeing...and when it says vagina, its when hes fapping (his app cant tell the difference between a vagina and his hand)
00:27 <@Dagmar> An app that lets you publicly announce when and where you pee
00:28 <@Dagmar> You could become the Governor of Urinal #8497 on PeeSquare
00:28 <@klixa> lol
00:28 < aestetix> "Why isn't my cup sharing things on facebook? Oh, silly me, I forgot to charge it!"
00:28 <@Dagmar> Way better than marking your territory in the traditional way
00:29 <@klixa> aestetix: people already announce they are drunk on facebook
00:29 <@klixa> so, the routine for those people would just be easier
00:29 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: I'd love an app that would spam social media with urinalysis of my current session.
00:29 <@Dagmar> Wilpig: That's why I was thinking it might make some money
00:29 <@Wilpig> "smells like asparagus, wtf dude"
00:29 <@Dagmar> Show people an ad banner while they pee
00:30 <@Wilpig> those ads would be full of dick enhancers
00:30 <@Dagmar> ...and set aside a small amount of money to defend against lawsuits from people who ruined their phone by peeing on it instead of reading the instructions.
00:30 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe just keep the money and laugh at them directly.
00:31 <@klixa> they make bracepets that record heartbeat, location, hours slept per night, etc
00:31 <@Dagmar> Might be worth doing _jsut_ to laugh at people
00:31 <@Dagmar> YMMV on those
00:31 <@Dagmar> I tried one of those sleep tracker apps
00:31 <@Dagmar> Might as well say "Time spent dead: 6 hours"
00:31 < aestetix> What problem does this vassyl.com thing solve?
00:31 < oddball> klixa: Yeah, I know a couple folks that have worn them as part of a sleep study.
00:31 <@Dagmar> aestetix: The problem of being too fucking lazy to look in a cup
00:32 <@Dagmar> I sleep at 2-4 breaths a minute.  People should just accept it.
00:32 <@Wilpig> aestetix: it solves the I have too much money and need to spend it on a useless gadget
00:32 < aestetix> Wilpig: you shuld ask your work to get one for everyone on the team
00:33 <@Wilpig> which will also give us a secondary market in a year of people that have those and can't make them do jack shit since the company went under and all the servers are gone
00:33 <@klixa> it solves the problem of not having to count calories or caffeine manually for people with early onset alzheimers or dementia
00:33 <@klixa> how does it know whats in it tho? seriosuly? i mean, dont you need chemical reactions to determine the amount of sugar in something for example?
00:34 <@klixa> i dont trust this cup
00:34 < aestetix> I wonder if that guy actually got VC money
00:35 <@klixa> this says the vessyl can tell coke from pepsi o.O
00:36 < aestetix> klixa: it's magic
00:36 <@klixa> I KNOW
00:36 < aestetix> just like their business model
00:37 <@klixa> they are prolly lying
00:37 <@klixa> cause seriously, how could it tell
00:37 <@klixa> its vaporhardware
00:37 <@klixa> :|
00:39 <@Dagmar> It's probably doing some very weak chemical analysis, or (more likely) simply measuring acidity opacity and guessing
00:39 <@Wilpig> isn't vaporhardware what NYC just banned?
00:40 < aestetix> what
00:40 < aestetix> NYC banned e-cigs?
00:40 <@Dagmar> hehe
00:40 <@Dagmar> ecigs
00:40 < aestetix> what the fuck
00:40 < aestetix> WHY
00:40 <@Dagmar> Well, they classify them with "analog" cigs now
00:40 < aestetix> WHY
00:40 <@Dagmar> So, no smoking == no hipster vaping
00:40 <@Wilpig> aestetix: they passed a law that anywhere cigarettes are banned e-cigs are as well
00:40 < aestetix> The whole reason cigarettes are banned is this dubious notion of secondhand smoke
00:40 < aestetix> And e-cigs completely eliminate the secondhand smoke issue
00:41 <@Dagmar> Soon, they will require an ID check to purchase gum because some people that one time made candy cigarettes with extra confectioner's sugar around the gum
00:41 < aestetix> Which is why a town in CA actually started saying e-cigs contribute to thirdhand smoke
00:41 <@Dagmar> ...and background checks before you buy anything made of metal
00:41 < aestetix> Dagmar: the best part is, the same people calling for a ban on e-cigs are the ones calling for limited government
00:41 <@Wilpig> aestetix: all you need is $100,000 and a scientist willing to write a report saying something is bad and you too can get it banned
00:41 <@Dagmar> aestetix: You mean like when you breathe the same air as annoying nonsmokers?
00:42 < aestetix> you know
00:42 < aestetix> I don't smoke, but I actually like the presence of cigarette smoke
00:42 <@klixa> i was living with someone who switched to liquid cigarettes  and i felt edgy everytime they used them... there might be something to this 3rd hand smoke thing
00:42 <@Dagmar> Or they were just an annoying asshole
00:42 < aestetix> I kind of want to open up a business just to tell the government to go fuck themselves
00:43 <@Dagmar> OH YES
00:43 < aestetix> When I point out that if you let businesses choose whether they want to ban smoking, it becomes a business proposotion.... I get angry looks
00:43 <@Dagmar> PeeSquare is coming closer to being a thing
00:43 <@Dagmar> I just realized it could actually tell you whether or not it's probably safe to pee
00:44 <@Dagmar> Like, if you're sitting in the middle of a street, GPS can warn you "You shoudn't pee here"
00:44 <@klixa> so it can detect electric fences Dagmar?
00:44 <@Dagmar> Probably more vital information than vessyl provides
00:44 <@Wilpig> have it keep track of places where people were busted for public urination?
00:44 <@Dagmar> It would _really_ piss off the Niantic people
00:44 <@klixa> use it in conjunction wiht the vessyl to find out how much sugar is in your urine, so you can detect early diabetes or something
00:45 <@Dagmar> Because you could divide the players into two factions and let them vie for control of urinals by peeing on them
00:45 <@Wilpig> lol
00:45 <@Dagmar> ...or spoofing your GPS and pretending to pee on them
00:45 < aestetix> Maybe the TSA could use vessyl to detect explosives
00:45 <@Dagmar> Which is, you know, basically Ingress in a nutshell, but with less peeing (most of the time)
00:46 <@Dagmar> aestetix: It could certainly detect terrorists who try to get more than two ounces of liquid onto the plane
00:46 <@Dagmar> "Result: Three ounces.  Recommendation: Immediate arrest."
00:47 <@Dagmar> I am wondering now, just how many cease and desists I would get for putting a proposal up for PeeSquare
00:47 <@Dagmar> hehehehe
00:47 <@Dagmar> *gigglesnort*
00:47 <@Dagmar> At least three
00:47 <@Dagmar> ...and probably a patent lawsuit or two.
00:48 <@Wilpig> at least one from foursquare
00:48 <@Wilpig> maybe one from niantic
00:48 <@Dagmar> I'm sure there's an NPE out there willing to claim they patented peeing
00:48 <@Wilpig> surely there is a patent holder out there for an electronic urinalysis idea
00:49 <@Dagmar> Again, merely laughing at people who pee *on* their phones
00:49 <@Wilpig> I really still don't udnerstand how you can patent an idea for a product.  either you can make a product or you can't.
00:49 <@klixa> ok, i wasnt aware that facebook can show your friends comments you made on others posts when they are not friends with those other people
00:49 <@Dagmar> ...but that would be a fun app to put in the Play store if Google wouldn't bonk me for it after a week or two hehe
00:50 <@klixa> Wilpig: what i dont understand is patenting seeds...especially ones found in nature
00:50 <@Wilpig> I can understand a patent on say a battery design that has chemistry and whatnot behind it but say the tech doesn't exist yet to make possible.  but some of the shit people get patents for are just ridiculous.  they can make the products and just don't
00:50 <@Dagmar> Way better than the latest round of "Wifi omgoptimizer" snake oil apps
00:51 <@Dagmar> Not quite as good as that cool iPhone app that would check the camera focus to get distance to the ground and tell people to hurt themselves because it would be awesome
00:51 <@Dagmar> "Distance: 32 ft"
00:51 <@Dagmar> "Result: Probably a broken leg or ankles"
00:51 <@Dagmar> "Recommendation: Do it man, it'll be awesome."
00:52 <@Dagmar> ...but better than the "High Toss" game at least
00:52 < oddball> "remember to tuck and roll"
00:52 <@Dagmar> On par with it for sheer phone-destroying
00:53 <@klixa> my stepmother is such a bitch
00:53 <@Dagmar> I dunno, it would be kind of funny to make an app that would instantly revoke someone's warranty.  lol
00:53 <@Dagmar> "Warranty repair denied: PeeSquare installed on phone"
00:53 <@klixa> i was approached by this guy who was writing a book about my father; he wanted to use these 4 pics i have. years ago i scanned those and sent them to my stepmother/father... and now she uses them on the facebook page all the time
00:54 <@klixa> her way of telling me i dont need to let that guy have the pics or some sorta passove aggressive statment like that
00:55 <@Dagmar> Or just a reminder that they're already scanned
00:56 <@klixa> that's not it
00:56 <@klixa> shes a bitch, this is one of like 5 million things
00:58 <@klixa> ok, a better example... my father died... cancer came back, they knew he was going to die, he was in hospice and they were just waiting for it... she didnt tell me
01:01 <@Dagmar> Still, I fail to see a direct benefit from _or_ debit incurred by posting some scanned pictures on Facebook
01:02 <@Dagmar> ...or perhaps it's just too weak of a threat to be of concern, like seeing a kid in a padded safety helmet making faces at you.
01:03 <@klixa> lol
01:03 <@Dagmar> But... I have actually wound up in a fight before by saying "Oh!  You were being threatening.  I thought you were just simple."
01:04 <@klixa> shes extremely jealous, she didnt like the idea that i had something she did not have and that someone was asking me for it
01:04 <@Dagmar> A dude who I had six inches and thirty pounds on, *not* wearing leather body armor
01:05 <@klixa> when i was 12, she literally stepped between my father and i when he was talking to me...
01:05 < RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzagYQLqOVo well obviously, they have to die by pot overdose
01:05 <@GateKeeper> Title: Stone Gays To Death Or Risk Gods Wrath, Says GOP Candidate - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
01:05 < RangerZ> wait... thats not what he means?
01:05 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I say we start with that guy.  He looks gay to me.
01:05 <@Dagmar> That way we can decide for ourselves later how we feel about it.
01:06 < RangerZ> yep
01:06 < RangerZ> leviticus
01:06 <@Dagmar> I would hate to make a snap judgment about such a thing
01:06 < RangerZ> should we stone to death football (american football) players who touch a pig's skin
01:06 < RangerZ> or is it alright if they wear gloves
01:06 <@Dagmar> I mean I'm pretty sure we *shoudln't* stone people to death, but who really knows since it almost never happens here anymore
01:06 <@Dagmar> Maybe the conservative muslims are onto something there
01:07 <@Dagmar> All this time and we've been living in condos and shit instead of caves
01:07 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: just hit me.  you've got another avenue to consider on pee square.  men trying to become "the mayor" of the women's bathroom and vice versa
01:07 <@Wilpig> gotta have equality and all in mayorshits
01:07 <@Dagmar> wilipg: That's what legal disclaimers are for
01:08 <@Dagmar> ...although since I'm a bastard, the TL;DR version will of course read "I am not responsible." and the rest will accidentally never be published
01:08 < RangerZ> does that mean we get to stone to death wilPIG's ex ?
01:08 < RangerZ> -_-
01:09 <@Dagmar> I mean, since everyone's used to signing off on EULAs that allow the subject to change whatever it is they're indemnifying themselves from at any time with no notice, why bother writing it all out at once
01:09 <@Dagmar> Just do it via JIT publishing on an as-needed basis
01:09 < RangerZ> hell 1000s of people gave away their 'ever lasting soul' in an EULA on april fools
01:10 <@Dagmar> If it's longer than fifteen words it invariably translates into "Don't trust us.  Ever."
01:11 <@Dagmar> It's just the read-between-the-lines part
01:11 <@Dagmar> I don't really have to "trust" Google because they're already doing "the worst" they could really do, most of the time
01:12 <@Dagmar> woowoo datamining to show me little ads
01:12 < RangerZ> yeah
01:12 <@Dagmar> I know that everything beyond that is "whatever way the wind blows" the same as with _every otehr company on the internet_
01:12 < RangerZ> its in google's best interest to keep my data private to themselves
01:12 < RangerZ> that way ONLY they can mine it
01:12 <@Dagmar> Yeah
01:13 <@Dagmar> 80% of the rest of most EULA is just a long-winded description of what they're doing
01:13 <@Dagmar> ...because some people can't grasp the concept that if you are posting a picture publicly, you *might* need to automatically give the hoster permission to actually *show* it to people.
01:14 <@Dagmar> I mean fuck, if you're sharing a picture to the entire world it's a bit much to ask they _actually_ only magically share it with people who swear they're not an orwellian government agency
01:15 <@Dagmar> I am not amused that it gets pillaged by brute force of legal bullshit, but at least I'm aware of it
01:16 <@Dagmar> ...and finally i'm not the only fucker aware of it
01:17 <@Dagmar> I'm not avoiding being spied on out of paranoia so much as it is a desire to have nothing whatsoever to do with those fucking lunatics, whatsoever
01:20 <@Dagmar> If we put as much effort into talking to people as we do spying on them, we would not need the spy agency.
01:22 <@Dagmar> Oh fun http://www.wtvf.com/story/25791161/wildlife-suddenly-dying-on-old-hickory
01:22 <@GateKeeper> Title: Wildlife Suddenly Dying On Old Hickory Lake - NewsChannel5.com | Nashville News, Weather & Sports (at www.wtvf.com)
01:40 <@Wilpig> that's freaky
01:47 < RangerZ> obviously b/c of polution
01:47 < RangerZ> are they fracking near there? lol
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02:21 <@Wilpig> RangerZ: you never said what you thought of gnomoria
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06:56 <@Wilpig> https://staciehuckeba.wordpress.com/2014/06/14/an-open-letter-to-comcast-xfinity/
07:05 <@brimstone> "I do need to be a . grammar Nazi though… you misspelled Time Warner…. it seems to have auto correct ed it to com cast or something…"
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08:37 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
09:38 <@Corydon76-home> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/06/17/kind-of-creepy-personality-test-crunches-your-facebook-verbiage/
10:00 <@Dagmar> Awesome
10:00 <@Dagmar> Some shortbus rider appears to have dropped about a third of our internal firewalling rules
10:08 <@Corydon76-home> But it's so much faster now!
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10:32 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING
10:32  * shapr hugs Shadow404
10:33 <@Corydon76-home> What, no hug for me?  It's like you don't want surprise buttsecks anymore
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11:12 < aestetix> man
11:12 < aestetix> you know what I wish I had?
11:12 < aestetix> That's right. A cup that could tell me what I'm drinking.
11:12 <@klixa> vessyl!!!!
11:13  * Wilpig pees on aestetix's phone
11:13 <@Dagmar> If I cared enough to spend the $99 I'd order one just to pee in it and put it on YouTube
11:13 <@Wilpig> hehe
11:13 <@klixa> lol
11:14 <@Wilpig> you'd be disappointed when it came up unknown drink
11:14 <@Wilpig> or really disturbed if it kicked back "monster"
11:14 < aestetix> Wilpig: "monster with spice"
11:14 <@Wilpig> it is monster you drink right?  or is it rockstar?
11:15 <@Dagmar> It's neither
11:15 <@Dagmar> Full Throttle
11:15 < aestetix> I wonder how much R&D money went into making that cup
11:15 <@Wilpig> that's it
11:15 <@Wilpig> I knew it was something like that
11:15 <@Wilpig> same joke different name
11:15 <@Dagmar> More caffiene, less bullshit chewable vitamin flavor
11:15 <@Wilpig> you see this link Dementia posted?
11:15 <@Wilpig> https://github.com/joho/7XX-rfc
11:15 <@GateKeeper> Title: joho/7XX-rfc · GitHub (at github.com)
11:15 <@Wilpig> it made me laugh
11:16 < aestetix> Also, if the cup is $99, how much did all the components cost? I really hope they are making a killer profit
11:16 <@Wilpig> aestetix: it's a $99 pre-order.   they could be discounting the actual cost to stir up noise
11:17 <@klixa> im gonna hack peopl'e cups...so that when you put coffee in it, it says tea :|
11:17 <@Wilpig> a cup like that could be handy at vandy if properly tuned.
11:18 <@Wilpig> you could carry it around full of whiskey and have it read coffee
11:18 <@Wilpig> should anyone question you just point to the label on the side
11:18 <@Dagmar> ...or, you could just drink the whiskey out of a coffee mug.
11:18 <@Wilpig> i
11:18 <@Wilpig> i'm not at vandy I use a highball glass.  ;)
11:18 <@Dagmar> heh
11:19 <@Wilpig> or often the red solo cup
11:19 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: that page is epic
11:19 <@Dagmar> At least some people are apparently beginning to realize that Ruby itself is a problem
11:19 <@Wilpig> the return code of fucking ie was priceless
11:20 <@Wilpig> the unicode one made me chuckle too
11:21 <@Corydon76-home> 786 is my preferred return code
11:23 <@Dagmar> Awesome
11:23 <@Dagmar> So the firewall admins broke the firewalls pushing my requested policy change
11:23 <@Dagmar> ...now the firewalls are fixed, and the new allow rule isn't in place.
11:24  * Dagmar submits another ticket
11:25 <@opticron> obviously, it was YOUR policy change that caused the problem
11:25 <@Dagmar> Obviously
11:25 < RangerZ> this is a issue that will need to be recorded in your record
11:25 <@Wilpig> god damned troublemaker
11:25 < RangerZ> to mark a reason why you will only get a 50$/yr raise
11:26 <@Dagmar> No, that's because I'm not scaring people enough yet
11:26 <@Dagmar> That's about to change
11:26 <@Dagmar> A certain someone should have *never* lied to me about what was on that performance review, while I was recording.
11:27 <@Wilpig> was it me?
11:27 <@Wilpig> i'm a fuckin' liar
11:27 <@Wilpig> no wait... that was my ex-wife.  nm
11:28 < RangerZ> Wilpig: according to liviticus, a person can be stoned to death for touching the skin of a dead pig
11:28 < RangerZ> does that mean we can stone your ex wife?
11:28 < RangerZ> b/c she killed you inside ;)
11:28 <@Wilpig> I was dead on the inside long before her
11:28 < aestetix> RangerZ: we should force her to buy a vessyl cup every month
11:29 <@shapr> handy at vandy
11:29 <@shapr> I like that.
11:29 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: You recorded your conversation with Hogan?
11:30 < RangerZ> shapr then you didn't hear about the 5 "handy" vandy football players did you?
11:30 < RangerZ> they got a little "handy" with a girl :/
11:30 <@Dolemite> They got a LOT handy with a girl
11:30 <@Wilpig> RangerZ: she was asking for it
11:30 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Isn't technology in a one-party-consent state wonderful?
11:30 <@Wilpig> did you see the way she was dressed?
11:30 <@shapr> RangerZ: er, no... hadn't heard of that.
11:30 <@Dagmar> I mean, I could pretty much file suit against them for a hostile work environment regardless
11:31 <@shapr> makes me sad
11:31 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: Be careful before you act, though.  Vanderbilt enacted a policy that stated that while one party consent was legal, it was grounds for discipline, including termination, if used in the workplace.
11:31 <@shapr> wait what?
11:31  * Wilpig remembers that
11:31 <@Wilpig> stupid useless sleeping coworkers
11:31 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: That was video recording, and it was doing so when no one other than the person being recorded was present
11:31 <@Dagmar> Either way, I do not give one single fuck
11:32 <@Dagmar> Not one.
11:32 <@Dagmar> The man is a fucking backstabbing liar, and the next time he crosses me I will burn his face off for it
11:33 <@Dagmar> I have no idea why they seem to think there'll be no record of the fucking HUNDREDS of phone calls I got from the NOC at all hours of the day and night
11:33 <@Bahhumbug> Why wait until next time?
11:33 <@Dolemite> Well as long as you are aware of the potential blowback.  I'm just trying to be helpful in reminding you of the crazy "let's protect ourselves" rules that VU enacted.  Also, it was not limited to video recording.
11:33 <@Bahhumbug> Why give anyone yet another opportunity to fuck you over?
11:33 <@Dagmar> Bahhumbug: Because I'm a cruel and vicious motherfucker when crossed
11:33 <@Bahhumbug> But you've already _been_ crossed.  That's kinda my point.
11:33 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: I just called to hear your voice that early
11:33 <@Bahhumbug> What he did should be grounds for immediate termination.
11:33 < RangerZ> Dagmar: whats the legality of recording audio in TN?
11:34 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Yes, and I was sitting there right in front of him.  In this instance was *lie* right to my face about paperwork he was asking me to sign.
11:34 <@Dolemite> RangerZ: As long as one party is aware of the recording, it's legal
11:34 < RangerZ> does the other party(s) have to know
11:34 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: One-party consent
11:35 <@Dagmar> I'm currently looking into whether or not he also falsified my work history information
11:35 <@Bahhumbug> I'm sure he did.
11:35 <@Bahhumbug> Seems like the type of douchebag that wouldn't hesitate.
11:35 <@Dolemite> Dagmar: Oh I agree that he's a vile, backstabbing and self centered troll.  I'm not defending him at all, simply trying to keep you from shooting your own foot in the process of taking him down.
11:35 <@Dagmar> ...because since I can't trust him, and the HR reassessment thing went sideways, I strongly suspect after I left the room he changed my work experience to something more like a year
11:36 < RangerZ> Dagmar: why not just PHYSICALLY go to the HR office, and just sit in there until you get this figured out
11:36 < RangerZ> they'd solve it just to get rid of you
11:36 < RangerZ> lol
11:36 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Because there's interesting stuff to be done
11:36 <@Dagmar> ...and if I deal with too much of this shit at once, I won't be coming back to the office the next day.
11:37 <@Dagmar> I mean, the shit about not wanting to be part of a team was just beyond the pale
11:38 <@Dagmar> It would be far more accurate to say I am uninterested in being part of a giant clusterfuck.
11:38 < RangerZ> same thing
11:38 < RangerZ> lol
11:38 <@Dagmar> Steve knows my primary reason for being here is to get back at ITS
11:39 <@Dagmar> We're taking DNS away from them in the fall it looks like
11:39 <@Dagmar> Then we can ask them "Yes, and exactly what "core infrastructure" is it that you run, precisely?
11:40 <@Dagmar> Exchange and Sharepoint on an ESX environment isn't core to anything but Microsoft-worship.
11:42 < aestetix> http://www.inquisitr.com/1302300/sophie-dalzell-boobs/
11:42 < aestetix> "My boobs and my appearance are more important than the law"
11:45 < RangerZ> *shrugs* she's not even pretty, shes only porn star pretty... ohh wait... nvm... thats what she is
12:25 <@brimstone> "Sophie said that wearing the ankle bracelet would interfere with her work as a performer on erotic television shows."
12:25 <@brimstone> lol
12:25 < RangerZ> nah
12:26 < RangerZ> I'm sure there is some fetish for that
12:35 < aestetix> A fetish for ankle bracelets?
12:37 <@opticron> "If I don't stay above 40 thrusts per minute, the ankle bracelet will explode!"
12:45 < aestetix> you know what's sad
12:45 < aestetix> every time I see an email from "Tyler Durden" I have to guess which mailing list it's on
12:45 < aestetix> because I am subscribed to more than one mailing list that has a Tyler Durden posting to it
12:46 <@Mirage> Dagmar: consolidating DNS under infoblox, or just taking over management of DiamondIP?
12:46 <@brimstone> aestetix: isn't that kinda the point?
12:47 <@Mirage> Dagmar: and where did Greg Marlin land in the whole "VUIT" restructure?
12:47 < aestetix> I guess
12:47 < aestetix> At least I don't have a bunch of emails from Neo and Agent Smith
12:48 <@Mirage> aestetix: i wouldn't trust anything from someone named "Tyler"
12:48 < aestetix> Especially if it has attachments
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13:48 < aestetix> I have mastered the art of dealing with angry women
13:48 < aestetix> No matter what the issue was, I find something to apologize for
14:01 <@Mirage> it's not too hard since in the eyes of 99% of women, nothing men do is right.
14:02 <@Mirage> of course the other 1% are just saying we're right to placate us or get something
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14:29 <@rattle> Danger Mouse is coming back to TV.  REJOICE FUCKERS.
14:30 < aestetix> https://imgur.com/cG07rQU
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17:02 <@Dagmar> Just sitting here listening to The Brain on the phone with someone talking the wildest fantastic nonsense about certificates and CRLs
17:03 <@Dagmar> If he dies in a car wreck tonight, I will not be bothered at all.
17:03 <@Dagmar> The sun would rise in the morning, to greet a collectively smarter planet.
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18:02 <@Mirage> OMG...i'm the only one on the linux team who knows how to do anything with sendmail other than control it with `service`
18:03 <@Mirage> 5 people just got to learn how to find the linux.mc file, copy it to sendmail.mc, edit it, then use m4 to create the sendmai.cf.
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18:03 <@Mirage> sad...
18:07  * RangerZ comfort Mirage
18:08 < RangerZ> I admittedly only know about 1/2 of that offhand... but I'm no on the _linux_ team
18:08 <@Bahhumbug> yum shell; remove sendmail; install postfix; run
18:18 < aestetix> Mirage: fun
18:18 < aestetix> Mirage: admittedly the only thing I ever do with it these days is add ip addresses to the mynetwork field on the relay and restart it
18:24 <@Bahhumbug> Doesn't shitmail re-read it's config on a sighup?
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19:01 <@eryc> what idiot still uses sendmail
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20:46 < RangerZ> holy fuck... Tesla is sharing its patents
20:46 < RangerZ> brilliant move
21:32 <@Dickie> OLD
21:33 <@Dickie> but srs, the next playing field will be on their terms
21:33 <@Dickie> World War Z is on Netflix! I can't wait to not watch it!
21:52 < RangerZ> I heard it was actually pretty good, despite the trailers making it look stupid as fuck
21:53 <@Dickie> I read the book
21:53 <@Dickie> and apparently the only thing it has in common with the book is the name
21:53 <@Dickie> It's unfortunate
22:13 < RangerZ> i hate that
22:13 < RangerZ> also, the new tom cruise film is actually pretty good
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22:13 <@Wilpig> RangerZ: I saw it.  it was meh, but I didn't walk out
22:14 < RangerZ> sticks to the original light novel in theme, but it 'happyness-up' the ending from the original
22:14 < RangerZ> which I think brings it all together better
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22:36 < oddball> here you go Dagmar: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=334
22:36 <@GateKeeper> Title: VG Cats - A Spy Is Sappin' My Update! (at www.vgcats.com)
22:54 < RangerZ> http://hypericon.firechildren.net/
22:54 < RangerZ> oddball: you should be spamming that, reminding people that its today
22:54 < RangerZ> err , this weekend
22:55 < RangerZ> err was*
22:55 < RangerZ> you know what I mean, you SHOULD have
22:55 < RangerZ> I'm going to sleep, screw this, night
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