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07:24 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:57 <@Bahhumbug> Perhaps if people, after the 2 years the bot has been here, would learn to use it?  Just a thought.
07:58 <@Bahhumbug> @stock quote aapl
07:59 <@GateKeeper> Bahhumbug: The current price of AAPL is 93.70, as of 4:00pm EST.  A change of +1.476 from the last business day.
07:59 <@Bahhumbug> (@list, then @list stock - seriously, this isn't exactly rocket science)
07:59 <@Dolemite> So it's looking like Continuum is setting itself up for a new dynamic in he main cast of characters
07:59 <@Dolemite> @list
07:59 <@GateKeeper> Dolemite: Admin, Alias, Assorted, AutoMode, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, Currency, Filter, Format, Games, Geekquote, GeoIP, Google, Insult, Internet, IsItDown, Lart, Limiter, MLB, Math, MeetBot, MessageParser, Misc, Network, News, NickCapture, Nickometer, Note, Notify, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, Reply, RootWarner, Scheduler, Seen, Services, ShrinkUrl, Status, Stock, (1 more message)
07:59 <@Bahhumbug> (@more)
07:59 <@Dolemite> MeetBot is ok, but I prefer a MeatBot
08:00 <@Bahhumbug> @bacon
08:00 <@GateKeeper> Yummy, scrumptious, crispy BACON!
08:00 <@Bahhumbug> Ask and ye shall receive.
08:00 <@Dolemite> @MeatBot
08:00 <@Wilpig> Continuum is pulling back from the wtf factor and going with a more straightline story
08:01 <@Wilpig> i'm out the door
08:01  * Wilpig is away
08:05 <@Dolemite> I dunno about that so much as they are showing that instead of Liber8 and Corporate Congress futures they need to split the difference and find a balance
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08:33 <@Mirage> Dolemite: take this recipe: http://www.recipegirl.com/2011/07/20/bread-and-butter-pickles/
08:34 <@Mirage> Add 1/2lb of thinly spliced fresh jalepenos...and you have some good spicy bread/butter pickles
08:36 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.  Not really a fan of Bread & Butter Pickles, but adding some jalapenos migt make them bearable.
08:38 <@Mirage> I grabbed some "Amish Wedding" brand "Sweet Flame Pickles" at a farm supply store..they were awesome, but we couldn't find them again..so we figured out how to make our own.
08:41 <@Dolemite> There's an acquaintance here at work - for a while, the only other Ingress player (a frog), and he is from Trinidad & Tobago.  He brought me some hot sauce from his last trip back home.  I haven't worked up enough courage to try it, yet, but soon.
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10:15 <@Bahhumbug> In the event anyone cares RHEL-7 is now GA as of a few moments ago.
10:26 <@brimstone> i... wait, nope, just gas
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11:21 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING
11:21 <@shapr> Bahhumbug: What's GA?
11:21 <@shapr> Guaranteed Awesome?
11:23 <@brimstone> Generally Average
11:24 <@shapr> oh, right
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12:19 <@Bahhumbug> General Availability
12:48 < RangerZ|Laptop> hope benthemeek loves "amiibo" nintendo's answer to disney infinity/skylanders
13:25  * shapr hugs Shadow404 surreptitiously
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17:03 <@Corydon76-home> What are the implications of having banks of memory in a system running at two different speeds?
17:14 <@Dagmar> System failure, mainly.
17:14 <@Dagmar> If you're trying to dual-bank, they have to all be running at the same speed, usually with looser timings
17:20 <@Corydon76-home> I have 2 banks of 2 sticks each
17:21 <@Corydon76-home> Currently, I have 4G sticks running at 1333MHz
17:21 <@Corydon76-home> However I cannot find 8G sticks running at that speed, only at 1600MHz
17:24 <@Dagmar> NewEgg
17:24 <@Corydon76-home> I was looking there
17:24 <@Dagmar> DDR3?
17:25 <@Corydon76-home> Yep
17:26 <@Corydon76-home> Synchronous Unbuffered
17:26 <@Corydon76-home> with ECC
17:26 <@Dagmar> Aha
17:26 <@Dagmar> ECC makes things fun
17:27 <@Corydon76-home> Even worse, the 4GB sticks are 1.35V
17:28 <@Dagmar> Seems like it might be easier to just buy four new sticks
17:28 <@Wilpig> nintendo is trying to stay relevant.  http://e3.nintendo.com/games/
17:28 <@GateKeeper> Title: Games - Nintendo @ E3 (at e3.nintendo.com)
17:29 <@Wilpig> they announced watch dogs for the wii-u
17:29 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, that looks like what I'm going to have to do
17:29 <@Corydon76-home> I had originally planned to step up to 24GB before going to 32GB, but oh well.
17:29 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: I have 8GB 1333 sticks with ECC.  ;)
17:30 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: for your work machines?
17:30 <@Wilpig> yup
17:30 <@Wilpig> but there is a box of questionable memory I could probably get several sticks out of 
17:30 <@Corydon76-home> What brand is it?
17:30 <@Wilpig> samsung mostly
17:30 <@Wilpig> dell parts
17:31 <@Corydon76-home> Ah, interesting.  I've been looking at Micron and Kingston, neither of which make that memory anymore
17:31 <@Wilpig> DIMM,8G,1333,2RX4,8,240,R,LV
17:32 <@Corydon76-home> CL8?
17:32 <@Wilpig> not sure.
17:32 <@Wilpig> dell part number TJ1DY
17:32 <@Wilpig> if you wanna try to google it
17:34 <@Corydon76-home> Ah... No, it's registered RAM
18:10 <@Bahhumbug> Oh Chist.
18:10 <@Bahhumbug> Christ, even.
18:11 <@Bahhumbug> Crazy Bitch is presenting at tonight nlug meeting.
18:11 <@Bahhumbug> "5 Ways To Act Insane" will be the topic.
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18:40 < RangerZ|Laptop> Bahhumbug: examples 1 through 4 will probably just be her twitter account
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18:45 <@Bahhumbug> You follow her twitter account?
18:45 <@Wilpig> act? heh
18:53  * klixa wants to hack a hopper
19:03 < RangerZ|Laptop> no, I've heard the stories
19:04 <@klixa> what stories
19:04 < RangerZ|Laptop> raping of guys with broken beer bottles, because they disagree with her... and thats what led to her banning at all self-respecting cons/etc in the Nashville area
19:05 <@klixa> wtf
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19:16 <@Mirage> Wilpig: ping
19:16 <@Mirage> Wilpig: try looking at www.kahlon.com
19:18 <@Wilpig> pong
19:19 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home is needing memory, not me
19:19 <@Mirage> Oh, ok
19:19 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: ping
19:19 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: *see above*
19:20 <@Wilpig> haha.  archer and the ocelot crack me up
19:22 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: http://kahlon.com/result.asp?modelid=655455
19:32 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://twitter.com/CIA/status/474971393852182528
19:32 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / CIA: We can neither confirm nor ... (at twitter.com)
19:56 <@klixa> lol
20:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> WOW
20:07 < RangerZ|Laptop> Eric Cantor loses gop primary
20:09 <@Wilpig> http://meanwhileathq.tumblr.com/post/88401883690
20:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: Meanwhile... at HQ... (at meanwhileathq.tumblr.com)
20:25 <@klixa> I need some high socks and low shorts so I can has job
20:31 <@klixa> it's not fair; when I was growing up businesses all dressed boring now people get to ear fun stuff
20:31 <@klixa> wear*
20:32 <@NotLarry> Fucking comcast.  I got another "copywrite infringement notice" for a show I pay to not only watch but watch when I want on demand.
20:33 <@klixa> how the hell does that happen
20:33 <@NotLarry> except that I discovered this while looking up my information because they have already been out once to fix cable that has been unwatchable since we got it.
20:33 <@NotLarry> fuck if I know.  I bitched (lightly) about it.
20:34 <@NotLarry> I mean, if it was for downloading something like "FAAHDSDGT" I could understand.
20:35 <@Wilpig> NotLarry: which show was it?
20:37 <@NotLarry> "Fat Ass Asian Hookers Do Small Dick Ginger Trannys"
20:37 <@NotLarry> Some game of thrones episode
20:38 <@klixa> what route did the monitor? BitTorrent, streaming, or of they even say
20:38 <@klixa> they*
20:38 <@NotLarry> ok, give me a sec, I will actually read the email.
20:40 <@NotLarry> Says BitTorrent - Game of Thrones S04E06 HDTV x264-KILLERS[ettv]
20:43 <@Bahhumbug> They pulled his ip from the peers list of the public trackers on the torrent.
20:44 <@NotLarry> I just find it odd
20:44 <@NotLarry> well funny actually
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> I got one from HBO for an episode of Real Time w/ Bill Maher via Charter a couple years ago.
20:45 <@brimstone> you would
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> That remains the only one I've received.
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> I would what?
20:45 <@brimstone> pirate bill maher
20:45 <@NotLarry> I got one last summer for The Newsroom, again, a show I pay money so that I can watch.
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> I have HBO.
20:45 <@Bahhumbug> I don't watch TV.
20:46 <@Bahhumbug> So in effect he's been paid.  And besides, no fucks are given for torrenting tv shows.
20:52 <@klixa> need to start pirating through proxies
20:53 <@Corydon76-home> Or just run your torrent download to a remote site, then rsync the file when complete
20:53 <@Corydon76-home> Or run it through TOR
20:56 < RangerZ|Laptop> i heard TOR sucked for BT traffic though
21:23 <@Corydon76-home> So I see Cantor finally realized it's not so good to be encouraging the lunatic fringe
21:45 <@Shadow404> well that sucked
21:46 <@Shadow404> next door hispanic neighbors plus 1 white dude, came up to my door and wrong the door bell repeatedly and started off acusing me of stealing their puppies
21:46 <@Shadow404> says two white people were seen stealing them
21:49 <@Shadow404> ended up calling the cops when they threatend that i would have a visitor tonight
21:49 <@Shadow404> thats a fun night for gf and i
21:50 <@Bahhumbug> If you have a visitor shoot it.
21:50 <@Bahhumbug> Simple.
21:50 <@Shadow404> heh
21:50 <@Shadow404> i did answer the door with my gun in hand on my side pointed down at the ground
21:51 <@Shadow404> they told the cops i pointed the gun in one of their faces
21:51 <@Bahhumbug> He still had his face when he left?
21:51 <@Bahhumbug> Then I doubt you pointed it at his face.
21:51 <@Shadow404> hahah, thats the last thing i would do, only if i was ready to pull the trigger, which you dont do till you have to defend your own life
21:51 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
21:52 <@Shadow404> exactly my point
21:52 <@Shadow404> so i had to explain that to the cops too
21:52 <@Shadow404> gf told cops i had it pointed down the whole time too
21:52 <@Bahhumbug> Hello.  This is the south.  I have a gun(s).  I have them legally.  They threatened me.  They left alive.  Where is my medal?
21:52 <@Shadow404> gf is still pissed at me for losing my shit on them, but im a fucking aspca member, why the fuck would i still puppies
21:53 <@Bahhumbug> People are stupid.
21:53 <@Shadow404> next time, ill have her answer the door, so she can keep calm for me, if such a situation arises again
21:54 <@Shadow404> yeah, all questions and aqusations stopped almost immediately once they run my cci and confirmed it was still valid
21:54 <@Shadow404> said i did the right thing, other than losing my shit on them and yelling
21:54 <@Shadow404> but all i basically did was walk on my front porch gun still in hand, told them to get off my property
21:55 <@Shadow404> remember i still hand gun in hand, pointed down mind you the whole time, so i handed it back to my gf to take in side so i wasnt taken in the wrong light
21:55 <@Shadow404> thats when they threatened i would be visited tonight
21:57 <@Dagmar> So if anyone comes over tonight, shoot them
21:57 <@Dagmar> I take it you informed the police they thretened you?
21:58 <@Shadow404> yes
21:59 <@Shadow404> i will admit, the cops did a great job of handling the situation knowing their was a gun involved, i did secure the gun inside before cops arrived, and i did keep hands in sight out of pockets the whole time
21:59 <@Shadow404> i did get patted down though
22:01 <@Shadow404> even the cops said i had full right and would do the same thing having a gun in hand if it was night time and 3 people came up to yur house
22:02 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah
22:18 <@Wilpig> I hope you told the cops they might want to go check out the puppymill next door for animal cruelty
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22:18 <@Shadow404> yeah, cause making false accusations is a good idea Wilpig
22:19 <@Shadow404> so i just realized something on replay of the events
22:19 <@Catonic> hi Shadow404
22:19 <@Shadow404> when i was yelling at them to get off my property, i said i was a fucking aspca member and would never still puppies from someone
22:19 <@Shadow404> when the cops arrived and after they patted me down, they asked me if i belonged to any neo-govt groups
22:20 <@Shadow404> i wonder if they didnt know wasnt aspca was
22:20 <@Catonic> what the actual fuck?
22:20 <@Shadow404> Catonic: gah.....
22:20 <@Shadow404> i dont want to explain this whole thing again
22:21 <@Catonic> I don't have scrollback at this point.
22:21 <@Wilpig> hold on
22:21 <@Wilpig> Uploading (19.7KiB)...
22:21 <@Shadow404> thx pig
22:21 <@Wilpig> http://ur1.ca/hi0t1 -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/108823/14024532
22:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: #108823 Fedora Project Pastebin (at ur1.ca)
22:21 <@Catonic> I'm getting the gist that someone was on your property and accused you of
22:21 <@Shadow404> yeah, whole story in that scroll back
22:22 <@Shadow404> gf is still pissed off at me for losing my shit on them, not about the gun, shes more worried about their recourse after the fact
22:22 <@Shadow404> which i am a little too
22:22 <@Shadow404> so figuring how to mitigate this, if any
22:22 <@Bahhumbug> Sleep with a weapon?
22:22 <@Shadow404> always next to the bed Bahhumbug
22:22 <@Bahhumbug> Seems like a decent mitigation strategy to me.
22:22 <@Shadow404> but shes home before me
22:22 <@Bahhumbug> WFM
22:23 <@Bahhumbug> Teach her to shoot?
22:23 <@Shadow404> yeah, thats this weeken
22:23 <@Wilpig> "news at 11, a local man was hospitalized after an accidental discharge in bed.  That's not what she said"
22:23 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha
22:23 <@Shadow404> lawl
22:23 <@Shadow404> Catonic: caught up?
22:23 <@Catonic> thx
22:23 <@Catonic> yes.
22:24 <@Shadow404> so yeah, fun night
22:24 <@Catonic> This is where a holster would have done you a lot of good.
22:24 <@Shadow404> well, problem 1
22:24 <@Shadow404> wasnt dressed, all i had were pj bottoms
22:24 <@Catonic> "Can I help you?"
22:24 <@Shadow404> holster was in car,
22:24 <@Wilpig> nothing says "don't fuck with me like a man in nothign but a holster and pajama bottoms"
22:24 <@Catonic> rule #1: don't answer the door.
22:25 <@Catonic> rule #2: don't answer the door missing garments.
22:25 <@Shadow404> Catonic: well, i did only crack the door
22:25 <@Wilpig> other than a man answering the door in just the holster
22:25 <@Shadow404> Catonic: #2 true
22:25 <@Catonic> Leave the door closed, call the police.
22:25 <@Shadow404> Catonic: good idea, actually
22:25 <@Shadow404> probably do that next time
22:25 <@Shadow404> and tell the gf to do the same for a few months till things cool off
22:26 <@Shadow404> since we have this on record they will understand why she called
22:26 <@Bahhumbug> "pj bottoms"?  What, are you 11?
22:26 <@Catonic> "There are people I don't know on my doorstep beating on my door. I'm scared, they sound angry. I have a gun, and I'm afraid for my life."
22:26 <@Shadow404> uh, pajamas are age blind
22:26 <@Bahhumbug> Heh, if you say so :)
22:26 <@Wilpig> *BANG* *BANG* *BANG*  I shot the door.  the noises stopped.  please come quick.
22:26 <@Shadow404> Catonic: exactly
22:27 <@Shadow404> Wilpig: nice
22:27 <@Wilpig> cops show up and find a dead girl scout.   we all laugh
22:27 <@Shadow404> Wilpig: horrible
22:27 <@Catonic> because the laws on use of force in AL say... if they make forcible entry and you believe they intend to do you harm, you can use lethal deadly force.
22:27 <@Shadow404> but free cookies
22:27 <@Catonic> Once the door comes off the hinges of it's own volition, you've got proof they tried to come inside.
22:28 <@Shadow404> yeah, i made it ultimately clear, i never threatend with gun, always pointed down only in defense was it there
22:28 <@Catonic> but... keep this in mind...
22:28 <@Catonic> who was watching the back of the house and the side yard?
22:29 <@Shadow404> Catonic: 2 major doors of entry, and 1 window, including garage, so thats 1 more door, but you have warning cause they would have to bust out the glass of the garage, but if you went up the stairs, you got a great choke point they have to travel 30 ft down
22:29 <@Catonic> If someone knocks on the door, I have a gun on the backside of the door. I don't even start walking up without being ready for the door being kicked in.
22:29 <@Catonic> Unexpected, that is.
22:30 <@Shadow404> Catonic: having my concealed permit really took care of a lot of the cop concerns
22:30 <@Shadow404> background check, etc already done
22:30 <@Catonic> I've got a right to bear arms, the fuck do I need a background check for?
22:30 <@Shadow404> heh, just it saved alot of questions
22:30 <@Catonic> I own the property, the fuck do I need a permit for?
22:30 <@Shadow404> you dont
22:31 <@Shadow404> makes things go down easier though
22:32 <@Shadow404> er, i wonder if i should of told them i do hang out in a hacker chat room
22:32 <@Shadow404> when they asked if i belonged to any anti-govt groups
22:32 <@Shadow404> heh
22:32 <@Catonic> Shadow404: I understand that argument, but that's usually a different, unrelated matter.
22:32 <@Shadow404> i still think they didnt understand what aspca was
22:32 <@Catonic> "Got any id?" "Motherfucker, I'm wearing pajamas. What more ID do you need that I live here and this is my shit?"
22:33 <@Shadow404> Catonic: all i got was a pat down, a glance at teh card, they called the dispatch to verify it was valid, and the gun issue was dropped
22:33 <@Shadow404> so yeah, made that real easy
22:33 <@Catonic> I don't consent to any searches or siezures. if they are doing a patdown, it had better hold up in court 'cause it's 42 USC 1983 time otherwise.
22:34 <@Shadow404> lawl, well they were being cool, i was being cool
22:34 <@Catonic> The powers of the state don't have or carry emotion. They work only on facts.
22:34 <@Shadow404> i would of declined a house search without reason or warrant though
22:35 <@Catonic> "Repell boarders!"
22:35 <@Shadow404> exactly
22:35 <@Shadow404> i did have to have them stand at the door and watch me get my id though from the couch
22:35 <@Catonic> yeah, I suppose you could use the garden hose or fire hose for that.
22:36 <@Shadow404> worked in montgomery in the 70's
22:36 <@Shadow404> too soon?
22:36 <@Catonic> oh, so you already let the police in, that was nice. All it takes is one sniff and a lie and you're in the funny papers.
22:36 <@Shadow404> no, they were NOT invited in
22:36 <@Shadow404> and they did not come in
22:36 <@Catonic> they don't have to be.
22:36 <@Shadow404> exactly
22:37 <@Shadow404> i would of told them to step out
22:37 <@Catonic> If they are at the door and one of them "smells weed" (real or imagined), they can and will enter an effect a search.
22:37 <@Shadow404> my id was in plain sight, so were my hands for their own protection
22:37 <@Catonic> You had no reason to show ID. You live there.
22:37 <@Shadow404> Catonic: which is bs, but what power over that do you have?
22:37 <@Shadow404> Catonic: i dont have to show id?
22:37 <@Catonic> 1) don't talk to cops. 2) watch the video of the same 3) watch Barry the DEA Agent's videos on not opening the door.
22:38 <@Catonic> Did you commit a crime?
22:38 <@Shadow404> that was in question, since they should i pointed a gun at the guy accusing me
22:38 <@Shadow404> (which i didnt)
22:38 <@Shadow404> *said
22:38 <@Catonic> What reasonable, articulate suspicion do the officers have that you committed a crime?
22:38 <@Shadow404> their story
22:38 <@Shadow404> 3v2
22:39 <@Catonic> he said she said.
22:39 <@Bahhumbug> Standing on principle is all well and good but not being a dick when a weapon is involved is usually the best course of action.
22:39 <@Catonic> that's where you make statements, etc...
22:39 <@Shadow404> aka, by being argumentative and difficult wither officers, you raise suspicion
22:39 <@Shadow404> Catonic: i did focus on only facts
22:39 <@Shadow404> what Bahhumbug said exactly
22:40 <@Catonic> JIC500
22:40 <@Bahhumbug> Bonus.  Cops know you aren't a dick.  Cops are more likely to respond with a good attitude if called again.
22:40 <@Catonic> "You leave." *pump* "Now."
22:40 <@Bahhumbug> I prefer cops being on my side.
22:40 <@Catonic> cops don't have a side. they represent The State.
22:41 <@Shadow404> Catonic: ideally Catonic
22:41 <@Bahhumbug> Keep on believing that.  All cops take sides.
22:41 <@Shadow404> they do have sides
22:41 <@Catonic> You've got a he-said, she-said with 3 saying one thing and 2 saying another.
22:41 <@Wilpig> http://geekologie.com/2014/06/man-takes-girlfriend-on-roadtrip-she-die.php
22:41 <@GateKeeper> Title: Man Takes Girlfriend On Roadtrip, She Dies On The Way, Man Continues Roadtrip With Corpse | Geekologie (at geekologie.com)
22:41 < RangerZ|Laptop> no, they 'do' take sides, they decide who to arrest in a domestic violence case, etc
22:41 <@Catonic> When the ID comes out, the address matches the house, so we know who the homeowner is.
22:42 <@Wilpig> Man 62, Mother of man 93, girlfriend of man 31.  gf dies.  WTF
22:42 < RangerZ|Laptop> cops get granted a lot of leeway , look at the FBI, they have had 100 shootings in the past few years, all 100 were deemed justified
22:42 <@Bahhumbug> Didn't you just say something about he didn't have to show id?
22:42 <@Shadow404> Bahhumbug: thats what Catonic said
22:42 <@Shadow404> i disagree
22:42 <@Shadow404> you by law have to provide by request for any reason
22:42 <@Catonic> I'm not 100% on GA law, but I know that's the case in AL.
22:43 <@Bahhumbug> You can show ID.  Or you can puff your chest and claim you don't.  Let me know how that ends up for you?
22:43 <@Catonic> Name, Address, Description of actions. "Joe Namath, here, scratchin muh nuts."
22:43 <@Shadow404> Catonic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes
22:43 <@GateKeeper> Title: Stop and identify statutes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
22:44 <@Shadow404> al. has the same law
22:44 <@Bahhumbug> Violation of a lawful police order is illegal as far as I know.  As is lying to them.
22:44  * Bahhumbug shrugs
22:44 <@Shadow404> "Stop and identify" statutes are laws in the United States that allow police[1] to detain persons and request such persons to identify themselves, and arrest them if they do not.
22:44 <@Catonic> may stop any person abroad in a public place whom he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed or is about to commit a felony or other public offense and may demand of him his name, address and an explanation of his actions.
22:45 <@Bahhumbug> Ie.  If the person is human and breathing.
22:45 <@Shadow404> aka, gun was shown
22:45 <@Catonic> Am I being detained? Am I free to go? I want a lawyer present before I answer any questions. Have I committed a crime?
22:46 <@Catonic> Newsflash: "I live here." -- is address and identification.
22:46 <@Wilpig> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2649223/Man-drives-24-hours-cross-country-CORPSE-girlfriend.html    ahhaha
22:46 <@GateKeeper> Title: Ray Tomlinson drives for a day cross-country with girlfriend's CORPSE | Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk)
22:46 <@Shadow404> well, since they did ask me to be patted down, i figured i was under questioning
22:46 <@Catonic> they pull it up in the computer... "The owner of this property/mortgage is Jimmy Hoffa Jr."
22:47 <@Catonic> Oh, so you AGREED to a search of your person?
22:47 <@Shadow404> Police may conduct a limited search for weapons (known as a "frisk") if they reasonably suspect that the person to be detained may be armed and dangerous.
22:47 <@Shadow404> nope
22:47 <@Shadow404> but since i did tell dispatch i had a gun during the answering of the door
22:47 <@Shadow404> the police had the right to pat me down
22:47 <@Shadow404> which i agreed too
22:47 <@Catonic> You had a CONTACT and you agreed to a STOP AND FRISK
22:47 <@Shadow404> yes
22:48 <@Catonic> 4th amendment fail, mofranky.
22:48 <@Shadow404> i disagree on this one
22:48 <@Shadow404> cops are not ALWAYS out to get you Catonic
22:48 <@Wilpig> yes they are
22:48 <@Shadow404> hahah
22:48 <@Catonic> The weapon was legal; you live there.
22:49 <@Catonic> No, the cops aren't out to get me. I've just spent the last four years of my life researching this exact topic.
22:50 <@Catonic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
22:50 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dont Talk to Police - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:50 <@Shadow404> Catonic: i could, with your attitude, see this situation go from bad to worse in your case
22:50 <@Shadow404> you would of ended up in jail pissing off the cops
22:50 <@Shadow404> notice im not in jail right now
22:51 <@Bahhumbug> s/bad to worse/bad to dead/
22:51 <@Catonic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQkY85YCeI
22:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: Barry Cooper doesnt open the door - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:52 <@Bahhumbug> Catonic: Do you ever associate or deal with law enforcement?  Do you have friends that are LEOs?
22:53 <@Shadow404> low earth orbits?
22:53 <@Bahhumbug> That.
22:53 <@Shadow404> (sarcasm)
22:53 <@Bahhumbug> :)
22:54 <@Catonic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
22:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: BUSTED: The Citizens Guide to Surviving Police Encounters - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
22:56 <@Catonic> Bahhumbug: No comment.
22:56  * Bahhumbug shrugs
22:56 <@Catonic> Hey, I'm not dead right now, and I've done some shit.
22:57 <@Catonic> The takeaway here is Barry's video -- you should have the same attitude with people at your front door... just don't open it.
22:57 <@Catonic> avoid the situation before it starts. You've got means for deadly force. How do you know they don't?
22:57 <@Shadow404> im thinking of installing an interco
22:57 <@Shadow404> *intercom
22:58 <@Catonic> Not a bad idea, but cameras and video/audio recording is better.
22:59 <@Catonic> "He waved it at us" ... so at what point did his arms get high enough, because he's a tall fucker and he's got a large wingspan.
22:59 <@Catonic> or did he get far enough away from the door to do the same?
22:59 <@Catonic> My "attitude" isn't attitude. It's protecting my 4th/5th amendment rights.
23:00 <@Catonic> It's based on law, and cases.
23:00 <@Catonic> Cops can and do lie to people. They are uniquely enabled to do that in the course of work to "ferret out crime"
23:01 <@Catonic> and, if you want a legal opinion... go ask a lawyer.
23:02 <@Shadow404> i still think i handled it well, outcome was positive
23:02 <@Catonic> If you attempt to retain your rights and they are violated, you have civil recourse under 42 USC 1983 for damages. Should the US Attorney decide to follow suit, he can have the officers charged under 18 USC 242: Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law.
23:02 <@Shadow404> well, as positive as it could of been
23:02 <@Shadow404> shouldnt of lost my cool and turned it into a yelling match
23:02 <@Shadow404> possibly could of re-assured him it wasnt me in a cool format
23:03 <@Catonic> I agree, but... you've got to remember... you've got to be the bigger man when you're armed... de-escalate. It's not worth dying over, and if it is, let it be the other guy. Watch your back.
23:03 <@Shadow404> still, intercom is a must, and a cmera
23:03 <@Catonic> Common sense is a must. Don't open the door to strangers when it isn't Halloween.
23:03 <@Shadow404> yeah
23:03 <@Catonic> Now, I'm not saying this to harp. I've been in your shoes a few times.
23:04 <@Catonic> You start rolling it over one way or another looking at it, and you see how it could have gone bad, worse, or nuclear. And how you could have headed any of that off at the pass or the start.
23:05 <@Catonic> Hindsight is 20/20. Foresight isn't always. Plan, Train, Do.
23:05 <@Shadow404> should of closed door immediately, never shown gun, called cops
23:05 <@Shadow404> problem solved
23:05 <@Catonic> Shouldn't have opened the door in the first place.
23:05 <@Bahhumbug> Mercster
23:05 <@Bahhumbug> Mercster
23:05 <@Bahhumbug> Mercster
23:05 <@Catonic> Beetlejuice
23:06 <@Shadow404> 42
23:06 <@Shadow404> beetlejuice still had to be invited
23:06 <@Wilpig> Bahhumbug: sick fuck
23:06 <@Bahhumbug> Fuck you, vmware.
23:06 <@Bahhumbug> ssl updates.
23:06 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously, fuck you.
23:06 <@Shadow404> Wilpig: why is he sick fuck?
23:06 <@Wilpig> trying to summon a troll
23:07 <@Shadow404> ah ha
23:07 <@Shadow404> hopefully gf is getting some sleep
23:07 <@Bahhumbug> ware
23:07 <@Bahhumbug> ware
23:07 <@Bahhumbug> ware
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23:07 <@Bahhumbug> hahaha
23:07 <@Shadow404> shes still upset over the whole thing, me losing my shit, cops getting called, neighbors on going issue
23:08 <@Shadow404> anywho, night all
23:10 <@Bahhumbug> G'nite.  Be safe.
23:17 <@Catonic> Later man.
23:21 <@Catonic> so yeah, that's been what I've been up to.
23:22 <@Catonic> actually helped write legislation, did a lot of research, dissected cases...
23:23 <@Catonic> shredding opinions where the courts and government officials forgot to read the law.
23:37 <@Catonic> Wilpig: still working nights?
23:39 <@Wilpig> yup
23:40 <@Wilpig> network engineer guys are telling me they need another week still.  fuckers
23:43 <@Catonic> Ah. They must be spanking it mightily.
23:43 <@Wilpig> yeah.  it's a pretty massive rework
23:44 <@Wilpig> we're moving all the networking gear to one row.  it's currently split between 5 different rows
23:44 <@Catonic> sweet. so you can take the datacenter down by tripping two, maybe four breakers?
23:44 <@Wilpig> so during the day fiber is getting run and pulled, then at night everything moves around
23:44 <@Wilpig> shit...  not even
23:45 <@Wilpig> the networking row is fed by three different PDUs
23:45 <@Wilpig> each cabinet has at least two or the three sources
23:45 <@Catonic> eh.
23:45 <@Wilpig> these three PDUs aren't even at 5% load where the ones we're moving off are at 65% or better
23:46 <@Catonic> distributed is generally better. that way when one switch/router turns into an arc welder, the rest of them are covered in foam/water when the fire supression takes over
23:46 <@Wilpig> we've got it all balanced pretty well where we can lose a pdu and everything will stay up.  it'll crawl but it'll stay up
23:46 <@Catonic> sometimes fire suppression is one jumpy guy with a fire extenguisher.
23:46 <@Wilpig> fuckin' dell man...
23:47 <@Wilpig> so they sell a 4 node chassis with dual 750W power supplies
23:47 <@Wilpig> they call them redudundant
23:47 <@Wilpig> redundant*
23:47 <@Wilpig> each node in the chassis uses on average 270 - 330W
23:48 <@Catonic> found somewhere they had servers setup to default to "redundant" mode but "hot spare"... i.e., the other power supply has zero load on it, resulting in one PDU at 100% capacity and the other at zero.
23:48 <@Wilpig> if you lose a power supply all the nodes go into low power mode because it's impossible for the chassis to fully power them
23:48 <@Wilpig> Catonic: we had that too with some Dell R720xd nodes
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23:49 <@Wilpig> looking at a pair of CDUs and see one where all three phases are at 15a and the other all at 2-3a.  crazy shit
23:49 <@Wilpig> that caused out PDU loads to be out of balance
23:49 <@Catonic> what crack smoking monkey designed that, and for what market did it seem like a good idea?
23:49 <@Wilpig> I haven't the slightest
23:50 <@Catonic> I ran into a similar issue the other week...
23:50 <@Catonic> "Hey, we've never had the power guys at this site, I wonder what the numbers are...."
23:51 <@Catonic> Add them together, just under 50% by maybe 200-400W.
23:51 <@Catonic> uh, total they were 90% load of one side
23:57 <@Wilpig> damn
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