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--- Day changed Mon Jun 09 2014
00:00 < aestetix> why not after?
00:04 <@Dagmar> _After_ an objection could be raised
00:04 <@Dagmar> Before, not so much
00:05 < aestetix> heh
00:05 <@SuMo_D> so you guys saw there was a computer that passed the Turing test today?
00:06 <@Dagmar> That probably says more about the humans involved in the test than it does the software
00:08 <@Dagmar> I gotta say... This chick in Orphan Black?
00:08 <@Dagmar> She's like a _marathon_ actress
00:08 <@Dagmar> It's not often an actor has *more* than 100% screen time
00:09 <@Dagmar> I wonder how this show would do with that feminism test
00:09 <@Wilpig> oh god
00:09 <@Dagmar> How do they cound it when an actress is talking to _herself_
00:10 <@Wilpig> so what do you think about it so far?  also how far are you into it?
00:10 <@oddball> msg Corydon76-home Hey, When can we meet up this week to get the projector?
00:11 <@Wilpig> missed a slash there
00:11 <@oddball> damnit
00:12 <@Dagmar> Third episode, second season
00:12 <@oddball> Dagmar: I watched the first season of that show, and I really wanted to like it... it just didn't grab me.
00:12 <@Dagmar> I'm presently waiting for the soccer mom to pop a breaker
00:13 <@oddball> although, I may watch more of it.
00:13 <@Dagmar> I like seeing the cute chick playing dressup
00:13 <@oddball> heh, there is that.
00:13 <@Dagmar> Some of the plot was iffy, but it's neat seeing her play so many roles
00:14 <@Wilpig> the russian varient of herself and the stone cold business bitch.  just damn
00:14 <@Dagmar> Yeah
00:14 <@oddball> The psycho killer?
00:14 <@oddball> yeah
00:14 <@Dagmar> I like how the standard appearance for crazy is "red around the eyes"
00:14 <@Dagmar> hehe
00:14 <@Dagmar> WERE IT REALLY ALL THAT EASY
00:15 <@oddball> People would stop giving me shit?
00:15 <@Dagmar> None of my girlfriends have been so clearly marked
00:18 <@oddball> Yeah... neither were mine.
00:18 <@oddball> Although, you knew your stalker was crazy before dating her.
00:23 <@Bahhumbug> Power supplies stacked to the fucking ceiling in the garage and not a god damned one of them is SSI/EPS 12V :/
00:31 <@Dagmar> There's the problem with having a lot of spare parts
00:31 <@Dagmar> One tends to never use them up
00:32 <@SuMo_D> just takes a long game
00:32 <@SuMo_D> and creative people
00:40 <@Wilpig> I have many uses for some of the spare parts around this place, i'm just not allowed
00:40 <@Wilpig> a box with more than a TB of extra ram.  okay... I can do something with this. :D  boxes and boxes full of 1TB drives, YAY!
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00:52 <@Wilpig> https://31.media.tumblr.com/2afbbd3bbb43173a3f8bb8d720bcc5b8/tumblr_n6rdvct8iS1qgav8po1_500.gif
00:52 <@Wilpig> I never saw that one.  heh
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06:09 <@Wilpig> http://www.androidauthority.com/deal-sandisk-microsd-cards-391020/
06:09 <@GateKeeper> Title: 24-hour deal : Sandisk microSD cards up to 79% off (at www.androidauthority.com)
07:33 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:45 <@Wilpig> no u
08:01 <@Dolemite> Still have 326 unread to sort through.  Ugh.
08:04 <@Wilpig> that's what you get for taking days off
08:04 <@Wilpig> as for me, i'm heading home now
08:05 <@Dolemite> Did you touch openDCIM last week any?
08:05 <@Wilpig> just your js
08:05 <@Dolemite> Oh, and what about the dude with the SNMP problem
08:05 <@Wilpig> the walk he sent doesn't have anything for the power stuff
08:05 <@Wilpig> only network
08:05 <@Dolemite> I saw the file he sent - it's not listing any power strip specific stuff, because he doesn't have the MIB for it loaded in.
08:05 <@Wilpig> I emailed you about it
08:06 <@Wilpig> I sent you the file he sent translated
08:06 <@Dolemite> Yeah, unless you give it a numeric OID to start with, it won't traverse the OIDs that don't match up to a MIB
08:06 <@Wilpig> lovely.  well you can email him today then.  I thin I sent you the link for hte mib
08:06 <@Wilpig> I found it fairly easily
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09:48 <@Dagmar> Who in god's name does a mibwalk by symbolic names?
09:48 <@Dagmar> ugh
09:52 <@Wilpig> snmpwalk -One -Cc -v2c -cpublic 10.10.10.10 > testwalk.txt
09:52 <@Wilpig> tht was the walk he ran
09:53 <@Wilpig> it just didn't have everything.  all that was in it was the networking info
09:53 <@Dagmar> So it's good he removed the stuff he decided was sensitive data then
09:55 <@Wilpig> I'm not sure he removed anything.  not really sure what went wrong but i'm going to sleep and dol will follow up with him
09:55 <@Dagmar> Of course, it's possible he's using -Cc because all of his equipment is some shit he scrounged out of a dumpstrt in Wan Chai
09:55 <@Wilpig> I found the oids that I think thye needed to be checking but couldn't verify them
09:55 <@Dagmar> ...and it just doesn't actually export any OIDs but those
10:13 <@Dolemite> Whether you're talking to a Juniper, Cisco, APC, Geist, Raritan, etc - if you don't have the MIBs for the device specific OIDs loaded, snmpwalk won't report them unless you give them a starting point.  Has nothing to do with whether or not it came from a dumpster in Wan Chai.
10:27 <@Dagmar> Not in my experience
10:27 <@Dagmar> Then again, I always pass the damn things .1
10:28 <@Corydon76-home> Dolemite: in my experience, snmpwalk delivers the whole shebang, in numeric form, if it doesn't have translations
10:29 <@Corydon76-home> It's what I use to discover whether I have all the MIBs or not
10:31 <@shapr> Good morning!
10:34 <@Dagmar> You may be handing it a starting .1 like most people do
10:34 <@Dagmar> I do concur that if you use a symbolic name, it works with the symbolic names only
10:35 <@Dagmar> wtf form of black wizardry is this f5 shit using
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10:40 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: snmpwalk -v 1 -c <name> wccore0
10:41 <@Corydon76-home> Maybe the traversal on SNMPv3 does something different than v1?
10:42 <@Dagmar> Not sure.  I never ever use v1
10:43 <@Dagmar> I know that *if* a numeric si invoked, the way snmpwalk works is literally "Gimme value 23.  Now gimme the next value... now the next... now the next...  None left?  OKay bye"
10:43 <@Dagmar> LIterally asking for next value
10:43 <@Dagmar> s'why it shouldn't miss any if the query is right
10:46 <@Corydon76-home> I wonder if you give it any MIBs, it restricts itself to that set, whereas if it has nothing, it traverses the whole tree?
10:47 <@Dagmar> If you give it one it should start from there and walk the tree numerically
10:47 <@Dagmar> It will recurse down, but obviously not up
10:48 <@Dagmar> I had to "go asplorin'" rather often getting the snmp monitors set up against Checkpoint for those tools in netsec
10:49 <@Dagmar> Any decent implementation should be using the numeric and doing the next-value query
10:55 <@Corydon76-home> Ah, snmpwalk defaults to the root at SNMPv2-SMI::mib-2
10:55 <@Dagmar> Here's some fuckery for you
10:55 <@Dagmar> So firmware 11.4 for F5 appliances isn't vulnerable to heartbleed, in theory
10:56 <@Dagmar> At least, most of the box is based on openssl 0.9.8y, so it's not vulnerable
10:56 <@Dagmar> Except the ignorant pig fuckers have a utility called 'big3d' that sits on port 4353 and does autodiscovery of LTMs by GTMs...
10:56 <@Corydon76-home> It's just a BSD box, so sure, it could have multiple SSL libraries on it
10:56 <@Dagmar> ...which is a motherfucking statically linked binary, which somehow offers the goddamn heartbeat extention
10:57 <@Dagmar> ...and F5 has been saying this firmware isn't vulnerable
10:57 <@Dagmar> ...because of 0.9.8y
10:57 <@Dagmar> ...yet that fucking bin doesn't use it
11:20 <@Dagmar> https://devcentral.f5.com/questions/ssl-irregularities-in-1024-1141-ltms-vulnerable-to-heartbleed-or-not
11:20 <@GateKeeper> Title: SSL irregularities in 10.2.4/11.4.1 LTMs. Vulnerable to Heartbleed or not? (at devcentral.f5.com)
11:20 <@Dagmar> We'll see how long it takes people to get into complete freakout mode
11:21 <@Dagmar> ...cuz I'm thinkihng this means there's still a vulnerability
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12:56 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I decided "fuck it" and grabbed "Wildstar".  'Twitch-friendly' is right. I think I might try out my game pad with it.
12:57 <@Dagmar> You'll probably switch back to the keyboard soon enough, but it's pretty refreshing to make it matter whether or not someone's nimble with the keyboard
12:59 <@Mirage> I don't think nimble is adequate...people with more than 5 fingers on a hand should be at quite the advantage, though.  It's a bitch trying to evade and shoot at the same time.
13:00 <@Dagmar> I dunno.  I liked the stealther
13:00 <@Mirage> I started off with an Aurian Spellslinger.
13:00 <@Dagmar> It just takes a little mental rewiring to get the hang of dancing behind someone when they start their special moves
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19:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> !quote
19:12 <@GateKeeper> RangerZ|Laptop: quote <company symbol>
19:12 < RangerZ|Laptop> !quote Dagmar
19:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> damn :/
19:13 < RangerZ|Laptop> thats a good quote, lol
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21:41 <@Shadow404> nothing like homebrew beer and natural organic rasberry infused chocolate
21:41 <@Shadow404> mmmmm
21:41 <@Shadow404> !quote
21:41 <@GateKeeper> Shadow404: quote <company symbol>
21:41 <@Shadow404> uh, ok
21:41 <@brimstone> !quote aapl
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21:42 <@Shadow404> haha
21:42 <@GateKeeper> brimstone: The current price of AAPL is 93.70, as of 4:00pm EST.  A change of +1.476 from the last business day.
21:42 <@Shadow404> !quote IBM
21:42 <@GateKeeper> Shadow404: The current price of IBM is 186.22, as of 4:00pm EST.  A change of -0.15 from the last business day.
21:42 <@Shadow404> heh, just took showing him whos boss
21:42 <@Shadow404> took his sweet time with your quote
21:42 <@brimstone> apparently
21:42 <@brimstone> !quote fb
21:42 <@GateKeeper> brimstone: The current price of FB is 62.88, as of 4:00pm EST.  A change of +0.38 from the last business day.
21:43 <@Shadow404> what is aapl?
21:43 <@brimstone> aaple.com
21:43 <@Shadow404> !quote vzw
21:43 <@brimstone> err
21:43 <@Shadow404> ah
21:43 <@brimstone> apple.com
21:43 <@brimstone> they just had a 7:1 split
21:43 <@brimstone> like, last week?
21:43 <@Shadow404> !quote vz
21:43 <@GateKeeper> Shadow404: The current price of VZ is 49.57, as of 4:00pm EST.  A change of +0.15 from the last business day.
21:43 <@brimstone> or friday
21:43 <@Shadow404> woot, woot
21:44 <@Shadow404> anyone looking for a new cell carrier, id still stick with Straight Talk
21:45 <@Shadow404> the only issue i have is slightly delayed txt messages
21:46 <@Shadow404> otherwise, data and voice coverage is amazing since they piggyback off other carriers, though probably prioritized lower
21:52 <@Shadow404> GateKeeper: 42?
22:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> Shadow404: thats why you should be using google voice
22:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> avoid all that carrier -non-tcp-based traffic
22:16 < RangerZ|Laptop> lol
23:07 < aestetix> http://x.hope.net
23:07 < aestetix> in case you guys missed it
23:07 < aestetix> released the first round of speakers
23:21 <@Dagmar> Cool
23:22 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: I just tested what you said about specifying .1 as the starting point for a walk vs just leaving it blank
23:22 <@Wilpig> [wilbur@ops-datacenter-0eb9bb56.ewr01 ~]$ ls -alsh tumblrcdu*
23:22 <@Wilpig> 40K -rw-rw-r-- 1 wilbur wilbur 37K Jun  9 23:20 tumblrcdu2.txt
23:22 <@Wilpig> 68K -rw-rw-r-- 1 wilbur wilbur 65K Jun  9 22:59 tumblrcdu.txt
23:22 <@Wilpig> that's a big difference.  the tumblrcdu.txt had the .1 as the start point
23:23 <@Dagmar> I take it you got more items giving it a starting point?
23:23 <@Dagmar> Yeah.
23:23 <@Dagmar> I scraped those firewalls rather a lot
23:23 <@Wilpig> good tip to keep in mind
23:23 <@Dagmar> The mechanism it uses helps loads
23:23 <@Dagmar> The query is very literally "next item in list"
23:23 <@Wilpig> and the -Cc was because of some devices being tarded and having non-contiguous OID ranges.  my switch at the house is like that
23:24 <@Dagmar> It will go massively awry on shitty equipment that doesn't actually sort the crap it's feeding you, but those types of hosts are few and far between for a reason
23:24 <@Dagmar> ...and by "massively awry" as far as I know the result is generally a lot of duplications
23:25 <@Wilpig> I'll let mimic sort that shit out
23:25 <@Dagmar> Walking those firewalls was literally the only practical way I could uncover the OIDs I needed to query
23:37 < aestetix> wow
23:37 < aestetix> one of my friends who does porn just got John Waters to sign a copy of her porno
23:38 <@Dagmar> As long as she's not one of those "specialised" stars, *I'd* sign her damn porno so I'm sure John Waters would
23:38 <@Wilpig> that's pretty nifty
23:45 <@Dagmar> If she wants to get crazy, she should ask him if he'd like to direct one.  ;)
23:45 < aestetix> Wouldn't that involve Nazi trans wrestlers throwing eggs at each other or something?
23:47 <@Dagmar> Hence "crazy"
23:54 < RangerZ|Laptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OfK3FPKjqk here, have your tears ready
23:54 <@GateKeeper> Title: Valiant Hearts - E3 2014 Trailer at Ubisoft Press Conference - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
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