--- Log opened Tue May 20 00:00:00 2014
00:05 < aestetix> it's really sad when I have to tag photos as SFW
00:05 <@Dagmar> Well, then stop posting all that deranged stuff
00:07 <@Corydon76-home> No, what's sad is that people still click on any of your links
00:08 <@Corydon76-home> You think they'd have learned by now
00:08 <@Bahhumbug> He posts links?
00:09 < aestetix> Dagmar: it's not that deranged.
00:10 < aestetix> Although god that video of krokodil addicts was something else.
00:10 <@Bahhumbug> You seem outvoted on this.  And I personally think "deranged" is being kind.
00:11 <@Dagmar> So i'm looking at this Slashdot story about the lettuce
00:11 <@Dagmar> How well do you think someone's produce would sell if you slapped a "100% radiation free!" sticker on it?
00:11 < aestetix> huh
00:11 <@Bahhumbug> Probably quite well.  Esp in Cali.
00:12 <@Dagmar> http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/05/19/170251/fujitsu-is-growing-radiation-free-lettuce-in-japans-fukushima-prefecture
00:12 <@GateKeeper> Title: Fujitsu Is Growing Radiation-Free Lettuce In Japan's Fukushima Prefecture - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org)
00:12 < aestetix> The question is, how else would everyone else's cabbage continue to sell?
00:12 <@Dagmar> What kind of a shitstorm would that create?
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00:12 <@Dagmar> Cuz like, if you're in the store looking at lettuce, and one bin says '100% radiation free' what are you going to make of the next bin over?
00:13 <@Dagmar> The one that now, somewhat ominously, is remaining mum on the subject of radiation.
00:14 < aestetix> nice
00:14 < aestetix> apparently *.mil is inaccessible
00:14 <@Bahhumbug> Jesus.  All of .mil is off the air.
00:14 <@Bahhumbug> DNS... it's hard.
00:15 < aestetix> That's a pretty big oopsie.
00:16 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: hard and slow.
00:16 <@Bahhumbug> Ok, I just now saw aestetix's comment.
00:16 <@Dagmar> Oh shit
00:16 <@Bahhumbug> That's... scary.
00:16 < aestetix> Thanks Obama
00:17 <@Corydon76-home> Looks like a routing issue
00:17 <@Dagmar> Maybe, except do a `dig army.mil +trace` and look at the result
00:17 <@Dagmar> No NS glue
00:17 <@Dagmar> ...and a high-ass TTL
00:17 <@Dagmar> Did someone really fuck up that badly?
00:18 <@Corydon76-home> There's glue at the root servers
00:18 <@Dagmar> Yeah, it's giving out more .mil names.
00:18 <@Corydon76-home> mil.                    172800  IN      NS      pac2.nipr.mil.
00:18 <@Dagmar> ...which you can't look up.
00:18 < aestetix> wow
00:18 <@Dagmar> Ho ho
00:18 <@Corydon76-home> pac2.nipr.mil.          172800  IN      A       199.252.155.234
00:18 <@Corydon76-home> Glue
00:18 <@Dagmar> I'm not getting any here
00:18 <@Corydon76-home> dig @a.root-servers.net army.mil
00:19 <@Bahhumbug> I've not confirmed but report was that all their authoratative's are in the same /16.
00:19 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: yep
00:19 <@Bahhumbug> I wonder how many of those are unicast and in the same facility.
00:19 <@Dagmar> Someone fucked up
00:19 <@Dagmar> Not all the root servers are having those
00:20 <@Dagmar> Yeah I can't reach dick in the .mil because none of it will resolve
00:21 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I just checked a-m.  All root servers that I reached have that glue
00:21 <@Corydon76-home> Of course, I'm also querying only IPv4 servers, and it's possible the IPv6 root servers have different replies
00:22 <@Dagmar> I'm just using ipv4 only here
00:22 <@Bahhumbug> Because... DNS... it's hard.
00:22 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: The problem is routing, not DNS
00:22 <@Dagmar> I've tried a few hostnames now
00:22 <@Bahhumbug> The problem is meatware.
00:22 <@Bahhumbug> Shit poor planning == outages
00:22 <@Corydon76-home> If you can't route to the DNS server, it doesn't matter if DNS is right or not... can't get there.
00:23 <@Corydon76-home> Fair enough
00:23 <@Dagmar> HERE'S TO HAVING AN ALIBI!
00:23 <@Dagmar> W00!
00:24 <@Bahhumbug> Heh
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00:52 < aestetix> heh
00:52 < aestetix> I can't wait till CFP puts up the bio I sent them
01:03 <@Corydon76-home> Looks like .mil is back
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01:07 < NoFault> Anyone have any sway as far as hiring/firing circles in the Nashville area?
01:08 <@Corydon76-home> NoFault: what type of job are you looking for?
01:08 < NoFault> I'm trying to black list someone, have an offer coming up myself in the next few days
01:09 < NoFault> His resume is a farce
01:09 < NoFault> Want to put the warning out
01:09 <@Bahhumbug> People like that tend to get caught all on their own.
01:09 < NoFault> He hasn't yet and he is my co-worker
01:09 <@Bahhumbug> There's also the whole defamation / libel thing.
01:09 <@Corydon76-home> Given that some people are sue-happy, I would avoid trying anything of the sort
01:10 <@Bahhumbug> Or is it slander?
01:10  * Bahhumbug shrugs
01:10 < NoFault> ... not even a suggestion to take a hard look?
01:10 <@Corydon76-home> It's why some HR departments only confirm that somebody has worked a certain place and won't comment further
01:10 <@Bahhumbug> Yep.
01:10 <@Bahhumbug> Liability is a bitch.
01:11 < NoFault> Its nauseating
01:11 <@Bahhumbug> Been down that road; it does indeed suck.
01:11 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, but he's unlikely the only one who suffers from assholery
01:11 <@Corydon76-home> You have to depend upon the hiring process to weed them out
01:11 < NoFault> Point taken and noted
01:12 <@Dagmar> I'm suprised someone still thinks incompetence in IT is rare
01:12 <@Corydon76-home> and when it doesn't, then you improve the hiring process
01:12 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: +1
01:12 < NoFault> I don't think it's rare but what can one do about it that doesn't cross the "lines"
01:12 <@Dagmar> For every rock star in a place there's usually two morons
01:12 <@Dagmar> _Always_ try to be the rockstar
01:12 <@Bahhumbug> Cut his brake line and let nature take its course.
01:12 <@Corydon76-home> NoFault: are you the director of IT?
01:13 <@Dagmar> Then you can be sure you aren't one of the morons without noticing
01:13 < NoFault> Corydon76-home: Would it be brazen to say not yet
01:13 <@Corydon76-home> If you're not in charge, then it's not your problem
01:13 <@Dagmar> I have to ask
01:14 <@Dagmar> Is it just me or is CFengine3 *far* too loosely designed?
01:14 <@Bahhumbug> I am continually surprised that people still run that.
01:14 <@Corydon76-home> I've always been fortunate enough only to hear of it in passing and not have had the misfortune of maintaining it
01:14 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm starting to view it as the hardest fucking way to do anything
01:15 <@Bahhumbug> That's the impression I was left with everytime I've looked at it in the past 15 or so years.
01:15 <@Dagmar> I thought at first the top level sections had to be in a specific order
01:15 <@Dagmar> Not really.
01:15 <@Corydon76-home> Isn't the lure of CF basically one of point-and-click for designers?
01:15 < NoFault> Dagmar: I'm guessing it was sound advice I followed when someone said avoid it like the plague
01:15 <@Dagmar> Well, not with respect to system administration
01:15 <@Bahhumbug> Configuration Management + designers == bad news
01:16 <@Dagmar> But what it comes down to is that 3/4 of the shit I'm doing with it I could do with bash scripts, faster, and it would be more readable
01:16  * Bahhumbug pats puppet
01:16 <@Dagmar> ...and the documentation is universally shit
01:16 <@Dagmar> I finally dug into their "examples" library
01:17 < aestetix> http://i.imgur.com/EsmTAb2.jpg nsfw
01:17 <@Dagmar> ...whch is utterly worthless
01:17 < aestetix> can someone tell me what's wrong with this picture
01:17 <@Bahhumbug> Until I was convinced to pick up puppet and run with it I was doing anything with custom bash / perl scripts as far as system provisioning and post-install configuration management.
01:17 <@Corydon76-home> Good documentation in this business is a rarity, not the rule
01:17 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: indeed
01:17 <@Bahhumbug> s/anything/everything/
01:17 <@Dagmar> This promise shit is like writing in fucking assembly language
01:17 < aestetix> Bahhumbug: I'm in the final stages of setting up chef for my system
01:17 < aestetix> It is really annoying
01:17 < NoFault> Corydon76-home: +1
01:18 <@Bahhumbug> If you want something with far less crud attached take a look at ansible.
01:18 < aestetix> Corydon76-home: doesn't code self-document? ;)
01:18 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Yeah but you know how if someone tore the cover off the bat book and maybe redacted some nouns, you could be 200 pages in before you figured out they were talking about Sendmail
01:18 <@Dagmar> ...at least there are _some_ straightforward recipe examples for sendmail
01:18 < aestetix> While on the one hand I am really sick of hearing about puppet/chef
01:18 < aestetix> On the other, anything that makes less work for me is good
01:19 < aestetix> Getting paid to stress out about a system you don't care about is a nice setup.
01:19 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: I recently had the misfortune of trying to script for an APC daemon
01:19 <@Bahhumbug> puppet + foreman + hiera is pretty nice.
01:19 <@Bahhumbug> Corydon76-home: If you're talking the stock APC upsd shit... My condolences.
01:19 <@Corydon76-home> and there was literally NO documentation about the scripts
01:19 <@Dagmar> Ouch
01:20 <@Corydon76-home> Nothing about their arguments, nothing about the expected output... Nada
01:20 <@Dagmar> Mainly in a case like that I'd just look to get it to bark loudly at some shell scripts
01:20 <@Dagmar> Pretty much what I'm doing here
01:20 <@Corydon76-home> I finally just told our IT director to point it at a script that output all of its arguments to the logfile and watched what came through
01:20 <@Corydon76-home> Which is a massively shitty way to program
01:20 <@Dagmar> UPS barks that the power went out, starts a script that backgrounds and waits ten minutes
01:21 <@Dagmar> If the power comes back on, it barks and kills that script
01:21 <@Dagmar> If not, in ten minutes the box declares shit broke and does a shutdown
01:21 <@Corydon76-home> In this case, the script simply got every event the UPS chose to send
01:21 <@Bahhumbug> Depending on the model that could be a lot of unnecessary noise.
01:21 <@Corydon76-home> Which meant I had to differentiate between the different events to know what to do
01:21 <@Dagmar> I think most people who are are letting it talk to apmd but I can't be sure
01:22 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, there are about 20-30 different events
01:22 <@Corydon76-home> In this case, we're dealing with ESXi, which has to be shutdown a particular way, or it'll take 12 hours to recover after power-on
01:23 <@Bahhumbug> Um.... _12_ hours?
01:23 <@Corydon76-home> Last time I measured, yes
01:23 <@Dagmar> That was sarcasm but it's not far from that
01:23 <@Corydon76-home> You have to put the drives into maintenance mode
01:23 <@Dagmar> Imagine you have to do a full fsck check on many terabytes of disk
01:23 <@Dagmar> MANY
01:24 <@Bahhumbug> I might argue that anything more than replaying the fs journal is indicative of bad design.
01:24 <@Dagmar> the only thing more annoying I know of with ESX is if the SAN fabric falls over
01:24 <@Corydon76-home> If you don't put the drives into maintenance mode, it first has to do multiple hours of recovery on the array, and THEN it does about 30 minutes per VM of recovery
01:25 <@Dagmar> It's super-duper fucking fun to see a few hundred virtual disks go read-only
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> Heh
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> I would break out the pipe and the green.
01:25 <@Bahhumbug> At that point it's gonna be a shitty day.
01:25 <@Dagmar> The one thing I agree with about ITS's ESX config is if the storage fabric flaps, it just calls shutdown on everything
01:25 <@Corydon76-home> What I'd like to see, if we cannot get the drive to go into maintenance mode is for management to buy a nice generator, so we have continuous power
01:26 <@Dagmar> ...so on the one hand, everything just rebooted.
01:26 <@Dagmar> On the other hand, you didnt have to do it _personally_
01:26 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah.
01:26 <@Dagmar> This has happened a couple of times on the AI side of the house
01:26 <@Dagmar> 12 admins, 3/4 of a fucking day
01:26 <@Corydon76-home> Bahhumbug: everytime we've had this situation in the past, we could open a ticket with vmware, and it made no difference, it still took 12 hours to recover the full battery of VMs
01:27 <@Dagmar> Even storage arrays with built-in cache batteries take a fucking age to check the fitness of the array
01:28 <@Corydon76-home> Unfortunately, us being down for 12 hours isn't enough pain for management to go for the generator, even though it means we'll likely not be shipping anything via pallet for the remainder of the day
01:28 <@Dagmar> I don't know that journaling would do fuck all for the type of writes that ESX does
01:29 <@Bahhumbug> I don't know enough of the file system architecture for their native file system to say one way or another.
01:29 <@Bahhumbug> I was thinking more from the guest perspective wrt to journal replay.
01:29 <@Dagmar> Well, as far as they're concerned, writes could just be all over the place
01:29 <@Bahhumbug> This, of course, assumes sanity on the underlying backing store.
01:29 <@Corydon76-home> Oh, the guests are fine once the VM comes up
01:29 <@Corydon76-home> We can shut down the guests very easily
01:30 <@Bahhumbug> Yeah, I just suspend 'em.
01:30 <@Dagmar> Filesystem corruption that could potentially span hundreds of virtual disks is the sort of thing people wind up in the Screaming Academy for
01:30 <@Corydon76-home> They're mostly FreeBSD servers, so a reboot isn't a problem
01:30 <@Bahhumbug> Dagmar: Yeah, no shit.
01:31 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: that's why we have a vmware support contract
01:31 <@Dagmar> It was funny explaining why Troy and I didn't do a whole lot after a ESX-wide reboot
01:31 <@Dagmar> Cuz like, fuck... if the drives were going to be fucked, the machines woudln't have come back up
01:31 <@Dagmar> There was no point in logging into everything to make sure
01:31 <@Dagmar> We have Nagios for that shit
01:32 <@Dagmar> Windows admins going nuts tho
01:32 <@Dagmar> hehe
01:32 <@Corydon76-home> I was originally amused, though, when our IT director thought he would do ZFS mirrored virtual drives on top of a RAID 6 array.  WHY?!!
01:33 <@Dagmar> I find it amusing that Windows servers can come up into full prod mode with a dialog on the screen sayind "Hey, our disks are pretty fucked.  Someone should click here to do something about it."
01:33 <@Dagmar> "Meanwhile, feel free to keep using them."
01:33 <@Corydon76-home> Excuse me, RAID 60
01:33 <@Bahhumbug> "production" + "click" == ENOPARSE
02:22  * aestetix farts
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07:26 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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10:08 <@Dolemite> don't be so jumpy, ben
10:15 <@benthemeek> jumpy
10:16  * benthemeek is lost
10:17 <@Corydon76-home> benthemeek: quit/join cycles
10:17 <@benthemeek> Connected with jonnyx last night btw. He has a family member near death and they are preparing the arrangements etc.  I got his okay to ahead and work on site myself.
10:17 <@Wilpig> benthemeek: your commcast connection is being bitchy today, you should call them and yell again
10:18 <@benthemeek> I use thunderbird as my IRC client and I should probaly go back to using a term with screen from home
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10:54 <@shapr> GOOD MORNING!
10:54  * shapr hugs Shadow405
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11:03 <@Wilpig> shapr: I saw where you signed for my package yesterday.  can you get that reshipped out to me today?
11:03 <@shapr> Wilpig: oh you wish
11:03 <@Wilpig> well I was hoping
11:03 <@shapr> no 8-core amd with 16gb of ram for you :-P
11:04 <@Wilpig> if you can't today, then tomorrow will be fine
11:04 <@shapr> Nor do you get my 8 arduinos and collection of electroluminescent goodies.
11:04 <@Corydon76-home> Reminds me, I need to upgrade to 32GB of RAM
11:05 <@Wilpig> blech.  they're upgrading the black hole today
11:05 <@Corydon76-home> I only have 4 cores, though
11:15 < Goat21_HM> GOOD MORNING SE2600!!!
11:16 <@Dolemite> Goat21_HM: That kind of talk is likely to get you stabbed in the back
11:16 < Goat21_HM> DOLEMITE!!!
11:16  * Goat21_HM tips hat to Dolemite while swinging his cane around
11:16 <@Dolemite> I've been at work for over 4 hours, so it's no big deal for me, but Wilpig...  well, he's just grumpy all the time
11:16 < Goat21_HM> pig will be pig
11:17 < Goat21_HM> I really hate wireless keyboards btw...why the fuck did I buy this?
11:18 <@Wilpig> brain tumor
11:18 < Goat21_HM> most likely
11:18 < Goat21_HM> hopefully it's cancer...then i wont have to deal with changing the batteries
11:18 <@Wilpig> just had another discussion with my boss about a dumbshit around here that I currently can't name.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpq49ua7dlixp7t/2014-05-20%2010.27.19.jpg
11:18 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - 2014-05-20 10.27.19.jpg (at www.dropbox.com)
11:18 <@Wilpig> if I could, I would
11:19 < Goat21_HM> lmao
11:20 < Goat21_HM> Pig...we need to go grab lunch sometime...it's only like a 5 hour drive...and like...50 bucks in tolls
11:20 <@Wilpig> oh that's all?
11:20 <@Wilpig> what's the train ticket cost?
11:20 < Goat21_HM> there's a train?
11:20 <@Wilpig> maybe?
11:20  * Goat21_HM sighs
11:20 <@Wilpig> I found out the other day there is one from here to williamsburg, va
11:21 < Goat21_HM> OOOOOO
11:21 < Goat21_HM> that's not far!!
11:21 <@Wilpig> there's one to norfolk too
11:21 < Goat21_HM> Are they dog friendly?! Chunk would love a train ride
11:21 <@Corydon76-home> https://www.google.com/search?q=norfolk+to+nyc+train&oq=norfolk+to+nyc+train&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.7104j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8
11:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: norfolk to nyc train - Google Search (at www.google.com)
11:21 <@Wilpig> I honestly don't know
11:21 <@Wilpig> I can't say i've ever seen a dog on the train
11:21 < Goat21_HM> 12 hours?!?!
11:22 <@Corydon76-home> There's a direct line that comes in just under 9 hours
11:22 < Goat21_HM> Well he IS a service animal...
11:22 < Goat21_HM> i'll have to break out his vest
11:22 <@Corydon76-home> 5 am to 1:44 pm
11:22 < Goat21_HM> he hates his vest
11:23 < Goat21_HM> jesus....
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11:23 < Goat21_HM> tell ya what...you jump on that train, and i've got your room and board for X amount of days...also food...also...pitbull protection
11:24 <@Wilpig> heh that i can probably do
11:24 < Goat21_HM> you're more than welcome my friend. no lie
11:24 < Goat21_HM> even got your own room/bed
11:25 <@Wilpig> i've got some vacation time to use this summer i think
11:25 < Goat21_HM> bout to say, if you ever need to take a VA beach Vaca, just give me a 6 hour notice lol
11:26 < Goat21_HM> the drink flows like water here, and there's ALWAYS good food to be eaten
11:27 < Goat21_HM> just put the finishing touches on my "Man Shed" fully carpeted with a nice 4 burner gas grill and dart board
11:28 < Goat21_HM> well light, and also heated...when you want to eat a good porterhouse steak in winter
11:28 < Goat21_HM> *lit
11:28 <@Dolemite> sounds sweet
11:29 < Goat21_HM> Dolemite is also welcome here...including his family (Chunk loves kids)
11:29 <@Dolemite> and on that note, I'm taking a walk to the cafeteria
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11:30 < Goat21_HM> Honestly...the only thing I really lack here is good company
11:30 < Goat21_HM> ...and a new Desktop...
11:30 < Goat21_HM> working on the Desktop though
11:31 < Goat21_HM> in fact, my door is always open to anyone in this channel..except Guest63450...he scares me
11:32 <@Wilpig> heh mirage
11:32 < Goat21_HM> that's mirage?!
11:33 < Goat21_HM> If it's mirage i'll take it back...hell i'll even blow the boatswains mate whistle upon his arrival
11:34 < Goat21_HM> arrg..gotta go cut the grass in the back yard....
11:39 <@shapr> SHAZAM!
11:39  * shapr cranks up the loud music
11:40 <@Corydon76-home> Goat21_HM: when you're done, can you please come cut the grass in my back yard, too?
11:40 <@Wilpig> https://twitter.com/RobDenBleyker/status/468748894474485761/photo/1
11:40 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / RobDenBleyker: http://t.co/EaHFQAbyBJ (at twitter.com)
11:50 < Goat21_HM> lol
11:50 < Goat21_HM> I'm done!
11:51 <@Corydon76-home> Okay, do my backyard now!
11:51 < Goat21_HM> a bit of a drive...
11:51 <@Corydon76-home> Excuse me.  sudo do my backyard now.
11:51 < Goat21_HM> lol
11:52 <@Corydon76-home> http://xkcd.com/149/
11:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: xkcd: Sandwich (at xkcd.com)
11:52 < Goat21_HM> done!
11:52 < Goat21_HM> egads!! I'm out of cigerettes that I no longer smoke!!
11:53 < Goat21_HM> ....
11:53 <@shapr> OH NO
12:12 <@sasquatc4> omg its da goat
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12:17 <@shapr> !seen klixa
12:17 <@GateKeeper> shapr: klixa was last seen in #se2600 4 days, 19 hours, 4 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <klixa> at least this is still part of the bay...its the edge tho
12:17 <@shapr> aw
12:18 <@sasquatc4> joy, just love to see this in a code review
12:18 <@sasquatc4> / this is a sleazy hack, I am ashamed of it, and this sort of behavior will not
12:18 <@sasquatc4> / continue.  I will remove this as soon as all of the pertinent code is in verify,
12:18 <@sasquatc4> / the switch is on in the builds, and we are happy with the results
12:19 <@Wilpig> sasquatc4: at least you didn't see this  "goto end; // fuck you, yeah I really did that"
12:20 <@sasquatc4> well we do have a bunch of goto's in our code, at least they dont use 'end' though, some manager gets a bug up his ass about a coding standard
12:21 <@sasquatc4> mandates goto's to have single return areas for a couple years, then decides to reverse that decision a few years later
12:22 <@Dolemite> sasquatc4: Wilpig is the culprit who actually made that commit with the goto and fuck you
12:22 <@sasquatc4> nice
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12:24 <@Wilpig> I am that bastard
12:25 <@Wilpig> i'll still point it out as being horrible too
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12:33 < aestetix> oh man
12:33 < aestetix> http://www.cfp.org/2014/wp/
12:33 < aestetix> look at the speaker list
12:33 < aestetix> this will be fun
12:40 < aestetix> I love how it opens with a Congresman, former DHS secretary, former NSA lawyer, and then me
13:04 < Goat21_HM> LMAO, good luck my friend
13:14 < Guest63450> sasquatc4: that code comment looks like something Dagmar would (and has) put into code.
13:15 < Guest63450> wtf is this guest shit!
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13:17 <@Mirage> Assholes keep taking my nick.   Not sure why irssi didn't re-identify me..it should have.
13:17 <@Dolemite> It thought you were on vacation, hence 'guest'
13:19 <@Mirage> hrm...this might explain it.
13:19 <@Mirage> 17:19 -!- Mode change [+i] for user Mirage_
13:19 <@Mirage> 17:19 -!- nickserv: No such nick/channel
13:19 <@Mirage> 17:19 -!- chanserv: No such nick/channel
13:19 <@Mirage> 17:19 -!- Irssi: Your nick is owned by Mirage
13:19 <@Mirage> no nickserv makes it hard to identify.   must have had a server crash
13:22 < aestetix> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/20/why-did-lavabit-shut-down-snowden-email
13:23 <@Corydon76-home> Mirage: both are responding for me.  Maybe your server is screwed up?
13:23 <@Mirage> Corydon76-home: that was 2 days ago
13:23 <@Corydon76-home> Ah
13:24 <@Mirage> I don't normally hop on during the weekend, and I was off yesterday, so today is the first time i've been actively connected.
13:29 < aestetix> penis
13:30 <@Wilpig> i think they did some services maint over the weekend as well
13:34 < aestetix> ugh
13:34 < aestetix> I hate ghetto talk
13:34 < aestetix> doesn't matter if they are black or white
13:34 < aestetix> it's still loud, ignorant, and outside my window
13:40 <@Wilpig> haha.  tour group just stepped into the DC and none of them can believe the noise
13:41 <@opticron> aestetix, that's the first time I've seen it spelled out that clearly, but that's pretty much what I assumed happened
13:45 < aestetix> Wilpig: there's a tour group at your DC?
13:46 <@Wilpig> yup
13:46 <@Wilpig> we get a group of tumblr employees from the NY office once a month
13:47 < aestetix> any hotties?
13:48 <@Wilpig> one female, she's okay.   I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers
13:49 <@brimstone> i'd kick her out for not sharing crackers
13:49 <@brimstone> f'n love crackers
13:49 <@brimstone> i thought you were in the NY office Wilpig?
13:50 <@Wilpig> I'm at the dc
13:51 <@Wilpig> I stay in Jersey most of the time.  I'm some kind of lower american now.  it's a weird feeling but the pay is good
13:52 < Goat21_HM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h02oh5Ri4Y0&feature=kp
13:52 <@GateKeeper> Title: Pineapple Princess / Annette Funicello - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
13:52 < Goat21_HM> EAT IT!!!
13:54 < aestetix> ugh
13:54 < aestetix> ever been in the ghetto and seen a young white guy or girl with someone who is obviously a junkie?
13:58 < Goat21_HM> every day
13:59 <@Wilpig> Goat21_HM: married a junkie.
13:59 < aestetix> hahah
13:59 <@Wilpig> he sees it every single morning
13:59 < Goat21_HM> NO!
13:59 < Goat21_HM> take it back!!
13:59 <@Wilpig> she's not really on a boat, she's in rehab
13:59 < Goat21_HM> My wife is defending your freedom you prick!
14:00 <@Wilpig> goat you shouldn't give her that shit
14:00 < aestetix> it's almost always a teen or 20something white kid with an older black junkie
14:00 < Goat21_HM> i miss my wife...=(
14:00 <@Wilpig> I miss her too
14:00 < aestetix> the kid is rebelling against his parents, and the junkie is the tour guide
14:00 < Goat21_HM> you should
14:00 < Goat21_HM> honestly...i havnt seen my wife in 5 months...=(
14:01 < Goat21_HM> miss my baby
14:01 <@Wilpig> honestly I haven't seen your wife in 4.5 months.
14:01 < Goat21_HM> dont hate pig..
14:01 <@Wilpig> hehe
14:01 < Goat21_HM> i know i steal your g/fs
14:02 < Goat21_HM> but leave this one to me
14:02 <@Wilpig> you aren't a drummer
14:02 < Goat21_HM> oh?
14:02  * Goat21_HM drums
14:02 < aestetix> how long has she been in rehab?
14:02 <@Wilpig> well then you have  achance
14:02 <@Wilpig> you need to be part of a band with no hope at success as well
14:02 < Goat21_HM> she's been aboard the USS Baaton for 4 months
14:03 <@Wilpig> she was in jersey aboard the u.s.s pig for the week before that
14:03 < Goat21_HM> I'm sorry the USS Bataan
14:04 < Goat21_HM> no she wasnt
14:04 < Goat21_HM> but you can try my friend
14:05 <@Wilpig> the USS Bataan could easily become the USS Batman
14:05 <@Wilpig> eh?  eh?   see what I did there
14:05 < Goat21_HM> i would have to agree
14:05 < Goat21_HM> it's and LHD
14:05 < Goat21_HM> full of marines and hovercraft's
14:06 < Goat21_HM> yes...i'm worried everyday
14:07 <@Wilpig> i almost said it.  also had "so is she" on deck for ya
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14:08 <@brimstone> Battman
14:10 <@Wilpig> hhaha
14:10 <@Wilpig> dc manager is letting the ny folks push loaded racks around
14:11 <@Wilpig> they only weigh something like 1400lbs
14:27 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: can you video it?  I want to see them hit a crack in the floor, push the rack over, and collapse a few supports of the raised floor
14:28 <@Corydon76-home> Right there is how you ensure the NY folks never ever get access to the DC again
14:28 <@Wilpig> floor is good to 3000lbs per tile
14:29 <@Corydon76-home> That only counts simple weight, not the stress of 1,000 pounds hitting it from 6 feet up
14:30 <@Wilpig> if these were fully loaded i'd agree with you
14:31 <@Corydon76-home> Just let them push around a rack with all the servers above the halfway point
14:31 <@Corydon76-home> Watch someone try to catch it...
14:31 <@Wilpig> that would not end well
14:32 <@Corydon76-home> I'm not necessarily sadistic, but sometimes Murphy needs a little assistance
14:33 < aestetix> Wilpig: does tumblr actually make much money?
14:33 <@Wilpig> surprisingly, yes
14:33 < aestetix> I'm kind of amazed that a little blogging site can afford a massive data center
14:33 <@Wilpig> much more so since yahoo bought us
14:33 < aestetix> I will admit
14:33 < aestetix> this doesn't reflect tumblr as much
14:34 <@Wilpig> well yahoo is more profit oriented
14:34 < aestetix> But when  I read the facebook blog about the engineering challenges of creating the 10 year videos for everyone
14:34 < aestetix> I thought "what if you applied that talent to actual issues, like the water problem"
14:34 <@Wilpig> the folks here before the buyout were creators, geeks.  they were making something cool but not really trying hard to make it profitable
14:34 < aestetix> is tumblr profitable?
14:35  * shapr hops
14:35 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: you're asking something about a public company, so Wilpig probably shouldn't answer
14:35 < aestetix> oh
14:36 < aestetix> http://www.quora.com/Tumblr/Is-Tumblr-profitable
14:37 <@Corydon76-home> It was privately held at the time.  Once Yahoo bought them, they became part of a public company, and all such news has to go through the regular channel, so there's no chance of insider trading
14:41 <@Wilpig> I didn't say how much or from who.  but I can say that it is known we are profitable
15:24 < aestetix> seriously
15:24 < aestetix> It made me sad that so much engineering effort went into sometohing as stupid as the facebook videos
15:25 < aestetix> https://code.facebook.com/posts/236248456565933/looking-back-on-look-back-videos
15:25 < aestetix> that
15:43 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: If that's the extent of what depresses you, you're going to get a whole lot more depressed when you see the crap that gets engineered every day in corporate America.
15:43 < aestetix> such as?
15:44 <@Corydon76-home> Have you remembered the cover sheet on your TPS report?
15:44 < aestetix> heh
15:44 < aestetix> how is that engineering?
15:45 <@Corydon76-home> Dude, some of the shit that happens happens only to stoke a manager's ego, not because it actually helps efficiency or productivity
15:46 <@Corydon76-home> There's a building in Huntsville that Boeing had their airplane engineers design, instead of hiring architects
15:47 <@Corydon76-home> Nobody but Boeing can use that building henceforth
15:47 <@Corydon76-home> Can't sell the building, because it's useless to other businesses
15:49 <@Corydon76-home> In fact, I think I heard that the building sits empty, because it doesn't even really suit Boeing
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16:30 <@Mirage> python is annoying as to evaluation of 'for' and 'if'.
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16:55 < Goat21_HM> MIRAGE!!!!!!!
16:58 <@Mirage> Nope, just a figment of your imagination..
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17:15 < Goat21_HM> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
17:19  * Goat21_HM kicks the figment in the groin
17:20 <@Corydon76-home> You know "Figment" is the name of a Disney dragon, right, Goat?
17:20 < Goat21_HM> indeed i did
17:20 < Goat21_HM> it was a stupid dragon
17:21  * Goat21_HM blares david bowie
17:22 < Goat21_HM> i've had "life on mars" stuck in my head all day...werid right?
17:23 <@Corydon76-home> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup
17:24 <@Corydon76-home> and yet, you just kicked Figment in the groin
17:24 < Goat21_HM> i taste of piss and vinegar
17:24 <@Corydon76-home> Did your wife tell you that?
17:24 < Goat21_HM> or so i am told from the 30+ females
17:25 < Goat21_HM> oh she knows
17:25 < Goat21_HM> "Tell my wife I love her very much...SHE KNOWS!!!"
17:26 <@Corydon76-home> Must be your meds
17:26 < Goat21_HM> must be
17:26 <@Corydon76-home> Odd, because Peaches is on some heavy duty psychotropics, and he tastes just fine
17:26  * Goat21_HM gags
17:28 <@Corydon76-home> Yeah, I do that, too, when he hits that spot at the back of my mouth
17:30  * Goat21_HM vomits
17:31 <@Corydon76-home> It really doesn't taste that bad.  It's just protein, really
17:36 <@Corydon76-home> I'd suggest you try it before you knock it, but I doubt you'd give it a fair shot anyway
17:39 <@Corydon76-home> Goat21_HM: though, if you REALLY want something puke-inducing, just imagine your grandparents having sex.
17:40 <@Corydon76-home> "Was it good for you?"  "I can't remember."
17:53 <@Wilpig> Goat21_HM: Corydon76-home has photos of that too
17:53 <@Wilpig> he tricked me into looking at them once, and i've booted him out of here a couple of times for linking that disgusting shit since
17:53 <@Corydon76-home> They're hosted at Wilpig's workplace
17:54 <@Wilpig> so we were just moving a 480lb chassis and the rails are either 1/4" too short or 1/2" too long
17:54 <@Corydon76-home> How bad could they be, if Wilpig has instant access to all of them?
17:54 <@Wilpig> they fit the first rack perfectly.
17:56 <@Corydon76-home> This is what happens when you get older, Pig... your equipment stops fitting every rack you come across...
18:00 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: i haven't cum across a rack in 2 and a half years now
18:01  * Corydon76-home starts the GoFundMe for getting Wilpig laid
18:04 < RangerZ1> Corydon76-home: phreaknic could easily sponsor a trip to NV for wilpig with a kickstarter
18:05 < RangerZ1> "sympathy drive"
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18:09 <@Wilpig> if y'all are good on mocking my pain for a while I'm gonna head to lowes now
18:09 <@Wilpig> you may resume in about two hours or so
18:10 <@klixa> awe, i showed up at the end of the mocking :/
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18:19 < Goat21_HM> i want to throw up
18:19 < Goat21_HM> thanks asses
18:19 < Goat21_HM> lol
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19:18 <@Shadow404> i love all you guys, now diaf
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19:27 < Goat21_HM> NO!
19:30 <@Shadow404> dooeeett
19:30  * Shadow404 hands Goat21_HM a gallon of petrol and a matchbook
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19:35 <@Shadow404> who is in charge of pn speakers?
19:40 < RangerZ1> the pope
19:40 <@Shadow404> ok, ill hit him up, got an offer
19:40 <@Shadow404> ill expect a reply next year sometime?
19:41 < RangerZ1> and by pope, I mean 'Pope JohnyX'
19:41 <@Shadow404> yes i inferred that
19:41 < RangerZ1> real pope would respond faster
19:41 <@Shadow404> heh
19:41 <@Shadow404> or god himself would
19:43 < RangerZ1> https://weev.livejournal.com/405848.html?nojs=1
19:43 <@GateKeeper> Title: weev: An open letter to members of the New Jersey District Court, FBI, and DOJ, consisting of an invoice. (at weev.livejournal.com)
19:43 < RangerZ1> hehehe
19:44 <@Wilpig> email all you want, just don't expect a reply
19:47 < aestetix> vagina
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19:48 <@Wilpig> RangerZ1: that post is absolutely useless.
19:48 < RangerZ1> yeah
19:48 < RangerZ1> it was just amusing
19:49 < RangerZ1> that he's so stupid as to waste his time even writing it
19:49 <@Wilpig> while yes he should get resistution that's not how he will be getting it and the amount he specified is a fucking joke
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19:50 <@Wilpig> current price of bitcoin.  ~$480
19:50 <@Dickie> current mood. unimpressed
19:50 < RangerZ1> weev = very expensive lawyer
19:50 <@Wilpig> he thinks his time is worth $500 an hour...
19:50 < RangerZ1> didn't you know that?
19:50 < RangerZ1> lol
19:52 <@Wilpig> he's asking for $13mil in restitution.
19:52 <@SuMo_D> The local news is going to do a segment on bitcoin, should have a few laughs built into that
19:55 <@Wilpig> a few of the folks I went to highschool with are working for local news places and boy do they get bent out of shape when you mock the ignorance of their reporters
20:04 < aestetix> a ghetto fight is happening outside my window
20:04 < aestetix> god
20:07 < RangerZ1> aestetix: http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/to-get-a-home-in-san-francisco-first-get-a-200000-a-year-job-1375/
20:07 <@GateKeeper> Title: To Get A Home in San Francisco, First Get A $200,000-A-Year Job - The Numbers Guy - WSJ (at blogs.wsj.com)
20:07 < RangerZ1> lol
20:07 < RangerZ1> 30k/yr can get you a house in Pitt and Cle... san fran... you can't even afford ramen noodles
20:12 <@Bahhumbug> Fuck weev.  Fuck his restitution.  Fuck his bullshit post.
20:13  * Bahhumbug waits eagerly for him to get hauled off to prison again
20:16 < RangerZ1> calling Timothy McVeigh a patriot is a 'full stop' statement
20:16 < RangerZ1> the rest of it I thought was amusing
20:16 < RangerZ1> bu that ... nah
20:18 <@Bahhumbug> What do you expect from an asshole like weev?
20:18 <@Wilpig> Hookers!
20:19 <@Bahhumbug> Seriously...  if people would just ignore the dipshit he will slither back into the slime and muck from whence he came.
20:26 <@Bahhumbug> It's not letting me reply.  Maybe it filters out "Die.  Preferably by burning to death in a forest fire."
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20:39 < RangerZ1> why would I ignore weev... watching Bahhumbug's reactions alone is worth it...
20:39 < RangerZ1> geeze...
20:39 < RangerZ1> lol
20:51 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MW9Nrg_kZU
20:51 <@GateKeeper> Title: Goku vs Superman. Epic Rap Battles of History Season 3. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
20:51 < RangerZ1> Goku isn't right...
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