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02:25 <@klixa> i have decided i hate the bay
02:25 <@klixa> like HATE it
02:25 <@klixa> everyone here thinks they are so unique, but they are ALL THE SAME
02:25  * klixa is done with California
02:38 <@aestetix> uh oh
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06:35 <@NotLarry> ping
07:42 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:43 <@NotLarry> Dolemite: When you offered me this job it would have helped if you had warned me we would one day be working with the mentaly handicaped.
08:45 <@NotLarry> It would seem that typing in a name and serial number and clicking a button is somehow more complicated than filling out an multi page spreadsheet and saving it to a shared folder.
08:45 <@NotLarry> In related news someone just came and took my scissors.
08:45 <@wilpig_> did they take your scissors or did your scissors leave with someone on the way to the emergency room?
08:47 <@Dolemite> NotLarry: Is this related to the battle for a usable DCIM tool, or are you referring to a new hire in the NOC?
08:47 <@wilpig_> Dolemite: he's referring to an addon I wrote for them to enter shit directly to surplus
08:48 <@Dolemite> ah
08:48 <@wilpig_> new device screen, add the label, add the serial, click "save to surplus", done
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09:17 <@Wilpig> haha.  http://explosm.net/comics/3556/   anti-vax people
09:17 <@GateKeeper> Title: Cyanide & Happiness #3556 - Explosm.net (at explosm.net)
09:19 <@Shadow404> annoys me when people steal meeting rooms without reserving them and i have to kick them out
09:20 <@Shadow404> i wanted time to setup grr
09:21 <@Wilpig> why haven't I seen this before now?  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2783020  it even has music by mc chris
09:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Jay and Silent Bob's Super Groovy Cartoon Movie (2013) - IMDb (at www.imdb.com)
09:38 <@Wilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fvs4wl8e4rkosci/Screen%20Shot%202014-05-13%20at%209.38.28%20AM%20%282%29.png
09:38 <@GateKeeper> Title: Dropbox - Screen Shot 2014-05-13 at 9.38.28 AM (2).png (at www.dropbox.com)
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10:34 <@shapr> GOOOOD MORNING PEOPLEZ!
10:36  * benthemeek waves
10:37  * Wilpig leers at shapr and benthemeek 
10:37  * shapr hugs Shadow404
10:37 <@Wilpig> shapr!  take off your pants before you do that
10:39 <@Shadow404> diaf
10:39 <@Shadow404> im pissed off today
10:39 <@Wilpig> better than being pissed on
10:40 <@Shadow404> welll...unless u enjoy that...
10:41 <@Shadow404> ustream crashed on my phone, so video didnt save
10:41 <@Shadow404> 30mins of presentation
10:42 <@Wilpig> next time use a computer?
10:45 <@Shadow404> probably will
10:45 <@Shadow404> grr
10:45 <@Shadow404> there will be part 2next week
11:06 <@Dagmar> Good god
11:07 <@Dagmar> Some purported contractor called the help desk to tell them that their support account wasn't working and needed the password reset, misspelled the account name, and only gave a first name.
11:07 <@Dagmar> They wanted it to be a high priority ticket.
11:08 <@Dagmar> REJECTCIONES! *flourish*
11:08 <@Dagmar> Not only no, but hell no.
11:08 <@Dagmar> If that's the best tehy can do I'm not even picking up the phone to call someone to inquire.
11:10 <@Dagmar> I just saw the fng walk by in camo cargo shorts
11:10 <@Corydon76-home> The misspelling of the account name was likely the help desk, not the contractor, so I'd still pick up the phone and try to glean more information from help desk about the details.
11:10 <@Dagmar> Dress vode much?
11:10 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Not for a role account
11:10 <@Dagmar> There's mechanisms for this that don't involve the help desk at all
11:11 <@Dagmar> ...and nothing using a role account should be high priority
11:11 <@Corydon76-home> Ah, so you're thinking "social engineering attempt"?
11:11 <@Dagmar> Yep
11:11 <@Dagmar> Either that or completely inept employee
11:11 <@Corydon76-home> I'd log it as a security compromise attempt, then, so you alert your fellow employees to someone attempting to compromise the system
11:11 <@Dagmar> They should already know _precisely_ who to call or email to get this fixed and at least one of those people is in today
11:13 <@Dagmar> The most commplex meme you'll see all day http://i.imgur.com/tJJXsHR.jpg
11:13 <@Corydon76-home> Make sure nobody tries to be extra helpful today.
11:13 <@Dagmar> Not my problem, really
11:13 <@Dagmar> Anyone daring to imply I don't know my shit with respect to infosec procedures is looking to get yelled at in the office
11:13 <@Corydon76-home> If cleanup afterwards will be on your task list, it's worth a little bit of prevention
11:14 <@Dagmar> See, there's another cool thing
11:14 <@Dagmar> It's not my fucking problem.
11:14 <@Dagmar> Under ITS I might be expected to ferret through and get all that information out and I frequenntly did so for other departments
11:14 <@Dagmar> ...but fuck these people
11:15 <@Dagmar> If they want me to do infosec forensics, they can hire me on a contract basis
11:15 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, they get to use the retards they've been collecting in Netsec
11:15 <@Dagmar> My whole "exposure", even if it were a machine I was responsible for, would be 1. snapshot the VM.  2. Build another one.
11:15 <@Corydon76-home> I'm used to working in a small office, where even if it's not my fault, it'll still get dumped on my plate, because I know more about this crap than the rest of the department put together.
11:15 <@Dagmar> 3. *dance*
11:15 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I was putting up with that in ITS.
11:15 <@Dagmar> FUck those people
11:18  * shapr hugs Shadow404 more
11:18 <@Corydon76-home> Right now, I'm figuring out how to do something because some of our customers are idiots.
11:18 <@Dagmar> My new operational model is to first figure out how much more I should be getting paid for it
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11:22 <@Dagmar> Fuckign Sony
11:23 <@opticron> oooh, what this time?
11:23 <@Dagmar> Posted to G+:
11:23 <@Dagmar> "The wait is over! XSCAPE, the brand new album by Michael Jackson has arrived, with a bonus track exclusive to Xperia Z2, Xperia M2 and Xperia Z2 Tablet owners!"
11:23 <@Dagmar> My response... "YOU'RE AWARE THE GUY IS DEAD, RIGHT?"
11:23 <@Shadow404> shapr: diaf more
11:24 <@Corydon76-home> There was a posthumous album from Freddie Mercury/Queen, too
11:24 <@Dagmar> Yes, and I'm still drawing a fucking line over this
11:24 <@Dagmar> Dead people don't release albums
11:24 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar:  were you buying any Michael Jackson albums anyway?
11:25 <@Shadow404> people that are ok with profitting from s corpse dont mind
11:25 <@Corydon76-home> There is one saving grace about this album, though:  proceeds won't go towards funding another pedophilic escapade.
11:26 <@Dagmar> I object to them claiming it's "from" a dead guy
11:26 <@Shadow404> true
11:26 <@Dagmar> The motherfucker is dead.
11:27 <@Dagmar> It's time for them to stop trying to skullfuck his corpse and admit their cash cow has died.
11:29 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-home: Also... whos to say the Sony execs that are backing this weren't doing so because they had something in common with Mr. Jackson?
11:30 <@Dagmar> Hell they're recording execs.  That already demonstrates they have some personal morality issues.
11:31 <@Corydon76-home> Perhaps, but until a report comes out as such, I'm willing to give them the benefit of a doubt
11:32 <@Corydon76-home> There are plenty of sick fucks out there without needing to make up boogeymen
11:38  * shapr hugs Shadow404 LOTS
11:38 <@shapr> Shadow404: It's okay, I have an ex-wife too. I understand.
11:40 <@Shadow404> work thing beyond my control
11:40 <@Dagmar> Like I already said, they're record execs
11:40 <@Dagmar> I'm not making it up.
11:43 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, but I also have to work with some of them from time to time, and I'd rather not think that they're child predators if I can help it.
11:44 <@Corydon76-home> There's plenty of proof that MJ was, without needing to make logical jumps.
11:45 <@Dagmar> They're worse than child predators, because at least some child predators know what they're doing is evil
11:45 <@Corydon76-home> It's business, and anybody who goes into contract negotiations thinking the opposite party is thinking of their best interests is an idiot
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11:46 <@Corydon76-home> People who sign the "standard" recording contract are naive idiots, but idiots nonetheless.
11:48 <@Dagmar> That doesn't excuse the fact that someone made a disingenuous and unfair offer in the first place.
11:48 <@Dagmar> Lets put this in fauxminist terms
11:49 <@Corydon76-home> It's only disingenuous if you asked what something in the contract meant, and they outright lied to you.
11:49 <@Dagmar> If someone tells a woman "I'm going to rape you" and they say "no", they shouldn't really feel flattered that the response is "OKay, what if I take you to dinner first?"
11:50 <@Corydon76-home> Dagmar: it's not rape if consent is obtained.
11:50 <@Dagmar> ...and yet attempted rape is still a crime.
11:51 <@Corydon76-home> Attempted rape is an overt act of violence.  Negotiation is not an act of violence, despite what fauxminists may tell you.
11:51 <@Dagmar> Just the same.  Labels know all they have to do is indicate that it's a limited time offer they're giving the artist and they've got the power of coercion on their side
11:52 <@Corydon76-home> That's hardly coercion
11:52 <@Corydon76-home> When you got a job offer, you were told it was a limited time offer.  It's not coercion.
11:53 <@Dagmar> You can let a rapist have his way, or worry about what they'll tell other people really happened
11:53 <@Dagmar> Record execs are not generally nice people.
11:53 <@Corydon76-home> Business people of all types are not there to make nice.
11:54 <@Dagmar> This is the same group of chimps who decided it would be okay to keep all the money from mp3 sales to themselves because contracts only explicitly mentioned CDs and vinyl
11:54 <@Corydon76-home> And record execs can be very nice people.
11:54 <@Corydon76-home> Again, that's business.
11:54 <@Dagmar> You say this like it's a get out of jail free card for unsociable behaviour
11:55 <@Dagmar> If a company is supposed to be a person, then they have to be held to the same standards for fair-dealing and civility as people are
11:55 <@Corydon76-home> No, I'm saying that just because someone negotiates hard on contracts doesn't make them a pedophile or not generally a nice person
11:55 <@Dagmar> ...otherwise you're just creating a race of amoral sociopath immortals
11:55 <@Dagmar> "Negotiating hard" is not an excuse
11:56 <@Dagmar> If they were negotiating hard for a _fair deal_ it would be another matter entirely, but this so infrequently happens the word 'never' might as well be dusted off and brought out
11:56 <@Corydon76-home> Sociopaths do what they want in spite of contracts to the contrary
11:56 <@Dagmar> So do corporations.
11:56 <@Corydon76-home> Again, you're pushing a word that is inappropriate to the situation
11:56 <@Dagmar> No, I'm not.
11:57 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, but a contract with a person can be enforced
11:57 <@Dagmar> A fair deal benefits all parties involved equally.
11:58 <@Corydon76-home> And?
11:58 <@Dagmar> A deal which benefits one party substantially more than another is decidedly "unfair", and it doesn't make a lick of difference whether or not the person getting screwed agreed to it or not.
11:58 <@Corydon76-home> Yes, it does, actually
11:58 <@Dagmar> There's no reason record executives should be exempt from the results of their misbehaviour just because _they were doing it for money_
11:58 <@Dagmar> No, it does not.
11:58 <@Dagmar> Deal with it.
11:59 <@Dagmar> Signing a contract doesn't make something "fair".
11:59 <@Dagmar> It does not change the balance.
11:59 <@Corydon76-home> That part I agree with
11:59 <@Dagmar> If anything, people fucking over other people for money should be taking a double hit on the ethical tally sheet
11:59 <@Corydon76-home> But it doesn't make the person immoral because they negotiated the contract, and someone signed it
12:00 <@Dagmar> yes, it does.
12:00 <@Dagmar> Fucking someone over for money is fucking someone over for money, which is still fucking someone else over.
12:00 <@Corydon76-home> And at any rate, the supposed immorality of negotiating a contract STILL doesn't equate to the immorality of pedophilia
12:01 <@Dagmar> Saying "it's only business" is a bullshit statement used by sociopaths to justify their selfish behaviour.
12:01 <@Dagmar> That's only because you prefer to put extra weight on some crimes.
12:01 <@Dagmar> I've got a simpler system.
12:01 <@Corydon76-home> Contract negotiation is not a crime
12:01 <@Dagmar> Beyond a certain point, it's all equally shitty
12:02 <@Corydon76-home> Sure, it's shitty to screw someone over.  But it's still not equivalent to pedophilia
12:02 <@Dagmar> What does mere "contract negotiation" have to do with this?
12:02 < eryc> did anyone hear the new micheal J album? damn so good
12:02 <@Dagmar> Of course it's not "equivalent".  No crime is "equivalent" to another
12:02 <@Corydon76-home> Thank you for conceding the argument.
12:03 <@Dagmar> I concede nothing
12:03 <@Dagmar> It was a fucking analogy that got us spun off onto this tangent to begin with because you wanted to play fucking pedantic advocate again
12:04 <@Corydon76-home> No, YOU stated that a record executive might as well be a pedophile because they play tough in contract negotiations.  And I said that's bullshit.
12:04 <@Dagmar> "might as well be a pedophile"
12:04 <@Dagmar> As far as I am concerned,  both of these groups of people, pedophiles and robber executives, should be thrown into a pool filled with lye.
12:05 <@Dagmar> Society as a whole would be better off.
12:06 <@Dagmar> In my opinion there's not a lot of point in worrying about the difference between someone who ruins the lives of children they can physically get their hands on, and someone who ruins the lives of families one at a time, remotely
12:06 <@Dagmar> Both are a drag on human evolution.
12:08 <@Dagmar> At some point, the harm done by dragnet lawsuits and insane distortions and abuses of the legal system *has* to add up to equal or surpass just about any other crime short of mass murder, so there's little point in quibbling about when that line is crossed.
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12:21 <@Corydon76-home> http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/russians-shave-beards-protest-against-conchita-wurst130514
12:21 <@GateKeeper> Title: Russians shave off beards to protest against Conchita Wurst | Gay Star News (at www.gaystarnews.com)
12:25 <@Wilpig> creepy beareded lady.  saw that on 4chan the night it happened
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12:27 <@Dagmar> Apparnetly she makes a fine bologna tho
12:27 <@Dagmar> Also, that's a guy.
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12:55 <@Dagmar> I bet they're just made that Wurst has a hipster beard instead of a full Rasputin
12:59 <@shapr> that's the wurst thing I've heard lately
13:00 <@Dagmar> *ba-dum-tish*
13:20 <@Dagmar> Fuuuck
13:22 <@shapr> ?
13:22 <@Dagmar> I think this Tivoli client isn't actually storing a password
13:23 <@Dagmar> The file it creates *says* it contains an encrypted password, yet when I change the password, the file does _not_ change.
13:33 <@Dagmar> Oh god I just cracked it
13:33 <@Dagmar> *cry*
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14:02 <@aestetix> how did you cracki t
14:04 <@Dagmar> It does not use a reasonable method of encryption
14:05 <@Dagmar> It also stores the node name in the file in both plaintext and in "encrypted" form, and they use the same key.
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14:05 <@Dagmar> So, as long as you know what the node name is you can work backwards from there
14:06 <@Dagmar> Changing one letter of the password from a to b to c to d, I got (in hex) 10 13 12 15
14:06 <@Dagmar> DIS R NOT VERY COMPLEX
14:06 <@Dagmar> @ in that position was 11, so they're doing some nibble flipping with xor
14:07 <@aestetix> Dagmar: post that on the full disclosure list
14:07 <@Dagmar> Not worth it
14:07 <@Dagmar> This is old IBM software
14:07 <@Dagmar> someone's bound to have unraveled it by now
14:20 <@Shadow404> next week, if someone without avreservation takes my meeting room and i have to kick them out, i will kick them out at 10 mins prior rather than 5mins
14:21 <@Shadow404> cause the managed to erase a diagram i had clearly marked as do not erase until 05/14/14
14:21 <@Wilpig> aren't meeting rooms meant for company business ?
14:22 <@Shadow404> cause they didnt know how to drop the projector screen over yhe whiteboard
14:22 <@aestetix> man
14:22 <@aestetix> Been reading some articles about how badly Obama is fucking up
14:22 <@Shadow404> Wilpig: yes, this presentation wss for work
14:22 <@Shadow404> we do to topics about work and two about a hobby per year
14:23 <@Shadow404> its just a skill refresher
14:23 <@Wilpig> You clearly chose the wrong skill to refresh
14:23 <@Shadow404> aestetix: not surprised
14:23 <@Wilpig> Napping 101
14:23 <@Wilpig> people show up to meeting, you're asleep.  meeting adjourned
14:24 <@Shadow404> heh, bastard 101 is your skillset
14:24 <@Wilpig> that's where they show up for the meeting but the door has been baracaded, and I am once again asleep
14:24 <@Shadow404> actually they requested a part 2 cause i had more slides and lots of questions
14:25 <@Shadow404> so ha
14:28  * Wilpig snores
14:31  * shapr breathes quietly
14:32 <@Shadow404> diaf both of u
14:33 <@Shadow404> i uploaded the pptx to my ftp account if u wanted to see it Wilpig
14:34 <@aestetix> Shadow404: any butt play lately?
14:34 <@Shadow404> nah to much fiber last few days
14:35 <@Shadow404> Wilpig: maybe pn worthy
14:37 <@aestetix> Shadow404: you should hang out with Corydon76-home more
14:38 <@Corydon76-home> aestetix: Far be it from me to keep you from doing butt play with Shadow404
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14:39 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: well, he likes to catch, you like to throw
14:39 <@Shadow404> aww, so wrong
14:40 <@Dagmar> "Why are you trying to sudo to root on the cfengine3 box?"
14:40 <@Dagmar> "Because i've had to type sudo before doing anything about 1,000 times today already."
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14:44 <@aestetix> I think it would be good for the community if Shadow404 got pegged
14:48 <@Shadow404> heh, the things u have no clue of astounds me aestetix
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14:48 <@Shadow404> especially at the degree u talk about them
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15:09 <@aestetix> wait are you the giezr I met at PN5?
15:15 <@aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_WMG2Q5pQ&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPN_WMG2Q5pQ&has_verified=1
15:16 < eryc> has_verified
15:18 <@Wilpig> damn he nearly made it too.
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15:41 <@Shadow404> thats funny, that really happen?
15:42 <@Shadow404> he almost...finished
15:43 <@aestetix> Do any women compete in that game?
15:43 <@Corydon76-home> Ah, this sounds so delish... (sfw) http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G36TJKW
15:43 <@aestetix> Because that could be fun to watch fauxminists protest it
15:44 <@Corydon76-home> I just really want to eat something that was made of hair, skin, and nails...
15:49 <@Shadow404> women do compete
15:49 <@Shadow404> just like the asain version
15:51 <@aestetix> oh
15:53 <@Shadow404> i still like tge asain version of wipeout better
15:54 <@Shadow404> i think it was japaneese, iirc
15:54 <@Mirage> Shadow404: wtf is "asain"?
15:55 <@Mirage> ah..now that i see "japaneese", i'm going to assume you meant "Asian"
15:57 <@Shadow404> yes
15:57 <@Shadow404> no spell check or swype in juice client
15:57 <@Mirage> too bad for us.
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16:12 <@Dagmar> http://imgur.com/gallery/rT40Itl <-- worth the wait
16:12 <@GateKeeper> Title: Fitting in is hard - Imgur (at imgur.com)
16:23 <@aestetix> Ok so
16:23 <@aestetix> is there any economic benefit to twitter?
16:27 <@Corydon76-home> That question is more correctly stated as "Why should my company use social media?" and there are a ton of articles out there to address that.
16:29 <@Corydon76-home> The essential answer comes down to advertising models and whether your target audience has become largely immune to traditional advertising techniques.
16:30 <@Wilpig> Corydon76-home: i've had to listen to a great deal of marketing speak about advertising and social media lately
16:31 <@Wilpig> I can tell you that on tumblr they work with the advertisers to make content that looks like it fits on tumblr and that effort has been paying off for them in getting more click throughs
16:32 <@Corydon76-home> Click throughs are what the advertising network uses to measure success, while the actual advertiser only really cares about conversion rates
16:33 <@Wilpig> we also report back stuff like hover time on ads, notes, and something else
16:34 <@Corydon76-home> total views?
16:34 <@Corydon76-home> aka "impressions"
16:34 <@Wilpig> possibly
16:34 <@Dagmar> Meaning they stand firmly against ads made with MS Paint
16:34 <@Wilpig> they always mention impressions with notes
16:35 <@Wilpig> Dagmar: oh very much so.  hell just look at taco hell.  http://tacobell.tumblr.com/
16:36 <@Dagmar> THese were not made with MSPaint
16:39 <@Corydon76-home> Wilpig: I sat in on a meeting with the co-owners when Google was trying to sell us on Adwords, and they were appropriately happy when I mentioned that the only thing we really care about is total number of conversions.
16:40 <@Corydon76-home> All the networks want you to pay for clicks, because as far as they're concerned, once they deliver the customer to you, their job is done.  Of course, if they deliver crappy leads, we still have to pay for them.
16:41 <@Corydon76-home> We found that the most traffic was generated simply from Google Products, and one cent per click was sufficient.
16:42 <@Corydon76-home> I'm sure Google hates that one cent got us what they consider to be "a very successful click-through rate"
16:43 <@Corydon76-home> If other advertisers figured that out, I'm sure Google wouldn't have nearly the market cap they have now.
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16:59  * SuMo_D sets off some fireworks
17:01  * shapr sets off to the side
17:02 <@aestetix> heh
17:02 <@aestetix> SuMo_D: in oakland we now have a "gunshots or fireworks?" meme
17:03 <@SuMo_D> ha
17:03 <@SuMo_D> we need that here too...
17:03 <@SuMo_D> as both are legal... and heard very often in my neck of the woods
17:03 <@aestetix> probably for different reasons ;)
17:05 <@SuMo_D> I'd like to hope... but you can never be sure
17:05 <@aestetix> well
17:06 <@aestetix> in oakland, there are three reasons you might get shot
17:06 <@aestetix> 1. gang activity 2. your bike 3. your iphone
17:06 <@SuMo_D> I was at my neightbor's house the other day and her friend who was a sheriff's deputy pretty much said the same thing
17:07 <@SuMo_D> although I think bike was girlfriend....
17:07 <@SuMo_D> phone was def one of the 3
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20:21 < eryc> http://i.imgur.com/sT1LEOz.gif
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22:32 <@aestetix> Corydon76-home: http://2048.anilshanbhag.in/Dolme2048/ nsfw
22:34 <@Bahhumbug> Wow.  Crazy pants is running for vp of nlug?
22:39 <@Dagmar> HAHAHHA
22:40 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Someone made a 2048 clone with shock images?
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22:50 <@aestetix> yep
22:50 <@aestetix> honestly, doing one with goatse/tubgirl/parrotcock should happen
22:51 <@aestetix> And now I'm forking it to make just that.
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23:03 <@Dagmar> ohgodohgodOHGOD
23:03 <@Dagmar> https://twitter.com/fullofbalogna/status/465878406408581120/photo/1
23:03 <@GateKeeper> Title: Twitter / fullofbalogna: @CletisStump @Kalaax008 What ... (at twitter.com)
23:03 <@Dagmar> This is a beautiful thing that is happening
23:04 <@Dagmar> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ann-coulter-twitter-hashtag-backfires
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